You are the King!!! Your customers are lucky to have someone who puts in the care and precision you do. I never surfed but did have years and years of messing around with fins and fin boxes on windsurfing and kitesurfing boards. Thanks for posting these videos!!
Put a drill bit in your dremel and it's like a router to cut out the boxes. Something i learned from trying to river surf here in wv- go to an auto parts store and look for chip and scratch resistant clearcoat in a rattle-can. I put several layers on my nose and it did wonders for my close proximity with rocks. Wet sand it smooth and repeat for any dings or scratches. I showed it to a shaper on tybee island, originally from Santa Cruz; he started using it on his longboards for the rides into the sand. Scuffs buff out with the minimalist of effort.
Thanks dude those are great tips! I've often thought to myself that I needed a very small and precise router! For the clear coat do you have any brands you recommend?
@@Rogue_wave SEM chip guard, "gravel and corrosion protection" clear #39803. Give the surface a bit of sanding for it to bond. Any overspray will chip like resin. 🤙🏼
I care nothing about surfing but your videos are absolutely mesmerizing! I love the craftsmanship and care you put into something that someone loves. Very cool stuff!👍
The problem with good surfboard repairs is nobody notices them. People often say to me "so you have a new board?". "No it's 10 years old". 😔 This is a very old method of affixing fins. Some retro isn't worth repeating.
when we got one of these into the shop i got some foam cutoffs and resined them into the holes shaped them and painted the foam to match board.. glassed the top and bottom for extra strength and did normal glass on fin thing, for the tail points we used fin cut outs from Rainbow fin co, cut off the points equally and added about an inch of this fin material.. shaped and glassed them in
Great work! Why are the fins first glasses with unidirectional rovings instead of a thickened resin fillet. I use epoxy fillets a lot in boatbuilding and they are incredibly strong, especially when glasses over.
Saw another video where the guy cuts some scrap foam to fill in only fin box plugs then he cut new ones. Just a thought versus the weight of the resin fill but whatever works! Nice job, : )
Also, filler is brittle. I wouldn't use it near fins that are going to flex a lot. That filler will crack one day. Replacement foam, as you say, would be best.
I have a foil wing board but it does not have a handhold in the bottom of the board which is a Moonbuddy made by Slingshot which makes it impossible to carry to the water
@@Rogue_wave yes interested in bottom hand hold, were are you based and how much will it cost, will the hole be a straight slot or one with under edges?
nice repair ....i thought you would go futures or FCS 2 but that saved the owner the price of 2 keel fins..That X fin system is nasty but not as nasty as an old Lockbox fin system i have on a fish..sturdy enough but dam ugly , would it be too bold to ask how much did you charge?
@@Rogue_wave awesome. 👍 I live on the east coast. So we don’t see too much surf action unless it’s hurricane season. Awesome work by the way. Im an ice sculptor and our sanding and shaping techniques are really similar. I get some asmr vibes from your stuff. 👍🤙🏻
Great video/edit and fun to watch. Thanks, subscribed. Can I ask how you took the toe and cant of the fins into consideration? I didnt see you make any marks on the board for positioning before or after and Im curious how the owner felt it rode after the repairs. Thanks again.
I measured the toe and cant when the fins were in the box (the non loose one that is). I did make marks with pencil they were just pretty faint and hard to see.
Absolutely incredible work. That customers gonna be paying for that one lol. Prob cost more than that boards worth. But I bet the surfer loves that fish to death so he decided it’s worth it
@@texsurfer Gotcha- it's hard to make a foam insert that fits the uneven "walls" or sides of those holes. One could theoretically route a larger hole and then use foam inserts, but that gets risky when you're working so close to the rail. It's also going to take longer, without much of an upside.
Question regarding the first time you sanded down those repairs on the tail. A lot of my repairs end up looking like that flaky and splotchy resin when I sand it flush. How could I avoid that or what am I doing wrong ?
Glad you found it to be helpful! Stay tuned for a series I’m going to make soon that goes even more in depth with some of the techniques/tips/tricks I use
Great work, but I have to be an armchair dick and say it hurts to see that much q-cell go into the core of the board. I know it’s a pain to back fill with foam….and the weight addition isn’t crazy for this cruiser board….but still….i would have loved a foam core back fill for the old fin plugs 😢
It's a fair point... I was just hesitant to use a router that close to the rail (my router tends to jump). I'd need to route a lightly bigger hole to get a clean plug. If it was a high performance shortboard I might've gone for it with the weight consideration.
@@Rogue_wave oh that’s interesting to know there are some other considerations besides just the extra time to foam fill (the routing risk you mentioned) cheers!
I use 8# density pour foam from US Composites for these repairs. That much catalyzed thickened resin in a hole creates a crazy amount of heat too by the way. Kick it hot and pour it in a hole like that and you could have a ruined board or a fire.
Yeah I almost never use gloss resin, which is just sanding resin + styrene monomer. Sanding resin will come out glossy if you wetsand to 1200 before buffing.
I recently learned a trick when using a file to repair a sliding door. Add masking tape to the end of the file to prevent abrasion beyond the subject to be filed. Also works for saws.
weak repair, its never gona hold in case of any lateral shock theres a reason a part of the fin must be screwed inside the board... a real fin box is way stronger
When you take pride in your work, it takes a good job to an amazing job. Great work bro🤙🏻
You are the King!!! Your customers are lucky to have someone who puts in the care and precision you do. I never surfed but did have years and years of messing around with fins and fin boxes on windsurfing and kitesurfing boards. Thanks for posting these videos!!
Thanks Sarge! Of course. New vid coming soon.
You are like Yoda, to me. Whatever you do, automatically turns into "instruction manual". You make it look easy. Thank you, Master!
this is funny cause the surfboard he’s working on kinda reminds me of yoda
you do quality work. Your garage smells like heaven to me
beautiful work! I'd love to see customer reactions if possible.
Noted!
Put a drill bit in your dremel and it's like a router to cut out the boxes. Something i learned from trying to river surf here in wv- go to an auto parts store and look for chip and scratch resistant clearcoat in a rattle-can. I put several layers on my nose and it did wonders for my close proximity with rocks. Wet sand it smooth and repeat for any dings or scratches. I showed it to a shaper on tybee island, originally from Santa Cruz; he started using it on his longboards for the rides into the sand. Scuffs buff out with the minimalist of effort.
Thanks dude those are great tips! I've often thought to myself that I needed a very small and precise router! For the clear coat do you have any brands you recommend?
@@Rogue_wave SEM chip guard, "gravel and corrosion protection" clear #39803.
Give the surface a bit of sanding for it to bond. Any overspray will chip like resin. 🤙🏼
@@gilligan369 much appreciated
You can even get a plunge router base for a dremel from Stewmac
@@blainewhelan8289 Good suggestion. This sounds like a good solution to some of the other comments regarding foam plugs.
I don't surf and know nothing about surfboards but that was nice to watch
So much time and love went into this, turned out great!
Love the bit that just says "name/description" so cryptic. So mysterious.
Omg it was in there twice. There must be a meaning!
It’s like a choose your own own adventure book.
Gotta love those True Ames fins. Thanks for the video!
Great job again
I care nothing about surfing but your videos are absolutely mesmerizing! I love the craftsmanship and care you put into something that someone loves. Very cool stuff!👍
Thanks, I love when people who don’t surf watch my vids, I hope to appeal to a wide audience!
@Rogue_wave you make great informative and watchable content.
Truly nice work.
You’re so darned clever. Love to watch. 😊
Kool bro sick job turn out mint. Looks like a sweet little board to swing around to!
Wow. Masterfully done.
I have the same issue with a red x fin box! This is awesome.
I’ve been getting a lot of people saying the same thing. Seems like a pretty faulty design and a reason there’s not many sets of them around anymore!
The problem with good surfboard repairs is nobody notices them. People often say to me "so you have a new board?". "No it's 10 years old". 😔
This is a very old method of affixing fins. Some retro isn't worth repeating.
when we got one of these into the shop i got some foam cutoffs and resined them into the holes shaped them and painted the foam to match board.. glassed the top and bottom for extra strength and did normal glass on fin thing, for the tail points we used fin cut outs from Rainbow fin co, cut off the points equally and added about an inch of this fin material.. shaped and glassed them in
Cool thanks I’ll give this a shot
That was a fair amount of work but it's worth it to keep the mojo of a well loved board instead of getting a new one.
Very nice! I've e have several boards I wish I had saved
that fins system was cool
They're called lockboxes. Edited: red-x my mistake!
I've repaired all kinds of dings and replaced broken fin boxes and put broken boards together . I wish laminating boards😂
I hear that. Laminating is my favorite part!
You crushed it 😊
That was friggin awesome
Excellent thanks for posting 📫👍
Nice work! Though Impact driver with a flat blade. 😬 gave me a touch of the anxiety! It takes a stteeaaddyy hand.
So true!
That was great!
should’ve put some nice keels in there. All that nice work and those old beaters .. I thought they were plastic at first
Customer liked them and requested they stay 🤙🏻
Great work! Why are the fins first glasses with unidirectional rovings instead of a thickened resin fillet. I use epoxy fillets a lot in boatbuilding and they are incredibly strong, especially when glasses over.
I’m going to level with you I don’t know what unidirectional rovings or resin fillets are…
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I am late to your party- just wondering why you didn't put " new style" fin boxes in the board? Love the channel!
Good question! Customer requested glass ins.
Saw another video where the guy cuts some scrap foam to fill in only fin box plugs then he cut new ones. Just a thought versus the weight of the resin fill but whatever works! Nice job, : )
Also, filler is brittle. I wouldn't use it near fins that are going to flex a lot. That filler will crack one day. Replacement foam, as you say, would be best.
I have a foil wing board but it does not have a handhold in the bottom of the board which is a Moonbuddy made by Slingshot which makes it impossible to carry to the water
I can install one if you need it!
@@Rogue_wave yes interested in bottom hand hold, were are you based and how much will it cost, will the hole be a straight slot or one with under edges?
@@martynholder1971 around $150. I believe it's the one with the under edges, although I have to double check what we have at the supplier.
Nice work
Neato! 😀
A piece of foam should have been used for where the box was.
Yeah, might have reduced the weight slightly, but probably not enough to bother with. Overall a good repair I would say.
@@davel4708 Not so much that.. exotherm is what I was thinking. Especially for the inexperienced.
I’ll try the foam in the next vid! Stick around!
nice repair ....i thought you would go futures or FCS 2 but that saved the owner the price of 2 keel fins..That X fin system is nasty but not as nasty as an old Lockbox fin system i have on a fish..sturdy enough but dam ugly , would it be too bold to ask how much did you charge?
Nice job by the way
Name/Description
For a while there I thought you were sanding fiberglass without a respirator and was about to have an osha stroke
Nooo 😂
Awesome! Do you need to buy a special UV curing resin or do they all cure with a bit of UV?
Chur from Taranaki New Zealand
Adding all that resin😢
Does this board shape have a name? Never seen one before. Super retro vibes though. I thought the front was split catamaran style too at first.
Hey Bobby it’s called a “fish”
@@Rogue_wave awesome. 👍 I live on the east coast. So we don’t see too much surf action unless it’s hurricane season. Awesome work by the way. Im an ice sculptor and our sanding and shaping techniques are really similar. I get some asmr vibes from your stuff. 👍🤙🏻
Dings on the tail of my fish have been the thorn in my side for years.
Yep. We need to bring back tail blocks 😂
Why are you filling big holes with resin and not with foam? Resin is heavier.
Great video/edit and fun to watch. Thanks, subscribed. Can I ask how you took the toe and cant of the fins into consideration? I didnt see you make any marks on the board for positioning before or after and Im curious how the owner felt it rode after the repairs. Thanks again.
I measured the toe and cant when the fins were in the box (the non loose one that is). I did make marks with pencil they were just pretty faint and hard to see.
I had hope you'd just eyeball them.
Lol
I believe these are the marks visible at 1:06
How much do you charge for such a repair?
Looks amazing btw.👍🏼👍🏼🤙🏽🤙🏽
Glue gun as well as a hook& loop DA sander wouldn’t go a miss to speed things up little Buddy.
Gonna look intocthis thanks amigo
Absolutely incredible work. That customers gonna be paying for that one lol. Prob cost more than that boards worth. But I bet the surfer loves that fish to death so he decided it’s worth it
Subscribed!
Thank you! More content on the way!
nice !!
Looks like the refurbishment is more expensive than a new surf board
Don't understand..? Why didn't you put new boxes in or did the client want the skegs fixed?
The client wanted glass on fins
why wouldn't you replace the foam, repair, and then treat as a new board and glass fins on?
Not sure I follow your question. Why I didn't use foam inserts instead of qcell and resin?
@@Rogue_wave yes
@@texsurfer Gotcha- it's hard to make a foam insert that fits the uneven "walls" or sides of those holes. One could theoretically route a larger hole and then use foam inserts, but that gets risky when you're working so close to the rail. It's also going to take longer, without much of an upside.
@@Rogue_wave always learning, tks for feedback!
@@1982mako224 ill give this a shot
Dude board looks good!
Just wondering though do u use mica pigment powder to color the laminating resin?
Thanks so much cant wait to see future vids
No I use pigment from the website in the description.
Question regarding the first time you sanded down those repairs on the tail. A lot of my repairs end up looking like that flaky and splotchy resin when I sand it flush. How could I avoid that or what am I doing wrong ?
Good question! If the resin is flaking off it means you didn’t sand the surface well enough before applying resin.
Killer video. Thanks for posting. Where did you get your UV lights from?
Thanks! Amazon- search for UV-C lights
@@Rogue_wave awesome. I've looked for UV lights before, but never knew which one to get.
amazing! very informative video thank you for uploading it helps kooks like 👍
Glad you found it to be helpful! Stay tuned for a series I’m going to make soon that goes even more in depth with some of the techniques/tips/tricks I use
@@Rogue_wave nice bro the more the better
holy shit! that was awesome
Why go glass fins rather than replacing with a modern fin box?
My customer wanted glass ins :)
Nar nar girl brah shred wu tang 420’s nar
Great work, but I have to be an armchair dick and say it hurts to see that much q-cell go into the core of the board. I know it’s a pain to back fill with foam….and the weight addition isn’t crazy for this cruiser board….but still….i would have loved a foam core back fill for the old fin plugs 😢
It's a fair point... I was just hesitant to use a router that close to the rail (my router tends to jump). I'd need to route a lightly bigger hole to get a clean plug. If it was a high performance shortboard I might've gone for it with the weight consideration.
@@Rogue_wave oh that’s interesting to know there are some other considerations besides just the extra time to foam fill (the routing risk you mentioned) cheers!
I use 8# density pour foam from US Composites for these repairs. That much catalyzed thickened resin in a hole creates a crazy amount of heat too by the way. Kick it hot and pour it in a hole like that and you could have a ruined board or a fire.
So you used polishing compound on a sanded finish without using gloss resin? You can do that?
Yeah I almost never use gloss resin, which is just sanding resin + styrene monomer. Sanding resin will come out glossy if you wetsand to 1200 before buffing.
Love watching your process. I'm curious, what kind of filler did you use on the tips of the tail?
That was actually sanded fiberglass from another board i was working on (I ran out of qcell and cabosil).
I recently learned a trick when using a file to repair a sliding door. Add masking tape to the end of the file to prevent abrasion beyond the subject to be filed. Also works for saws.
@@Rogue_wave thanks!
I can smell it.
It a lot of work to feed the sharks they are hungry.
what was that paste that you used at 2:58? thanks in advance
What was that fibreglass strand called that you used first on the fins?
Just saw it was fibreglass rope.
curious to know what compound/polish you use?
Fiberglass polish #2 from fiberglass source check the video description
no gloves??....no one needs them, lots of resin?!! we live in the power tools era....matching colours? who cares !!!
yap...thats my type of repair😏
Yo, does the uv resin kick faster than mekp?
Yes much faster but be careful how much UV powder you use! Too much and it will cure green/yellow.
Red X. That system sucked.
Yep guess there’s a reason you don’t see them anymore
I don't even know how to swim
😂
Why not just insert new boxes and fins? Surely less work and instantly replaceable for the future?
Customer requested glass on’s
weak repair, its never gona hold in case of any lateral shock
theres a reason a part of the fin must be screwed inside the board...
a real fin box is way stronger
Fin boxes break all the time. ThErEs aReAson they still make boards with glass in fins today 😂
You need some gloves. MEK is baaad for you.
Great restoration except for the color match on the top of the board.
Yeah it wasn’t my best…
Neglected and abused.. where is sara mcglachlan when you need her!🤣