They might suck to fix but when they first came out, it was very hard to find a board with a better strength to weight ratio. As your video shows, if the shop has the skills, it can be done, nice work!
@@Rogue_wave Nice repair. I'd be interested to know how much a standard repair like this costs though. Bigger shops don't do it also because it's not worth their time !
Autobody work can takes months and months of work depending on what you're doing my dad has been a car painter his whole life I've seen him work on a single car for months sanding bumpers over and over and if the paint gets messed up wet sanding and re doing its alot just for paint it's why people are doing wraps now it's cost too much to pay someone to paint anymore
Great to see you put in the time to do an esthetically and structurally sound repair. And good on the owner of that board for getting it fixed rather than adding it to a landfill.
Buy a quality board and keep it for life. Same goes for many other things. I've had many windsurfers and the ONLY boards that last are expensively built hollow carbon fibre boards. Expensive to buy or build BUT they can be repaired as much as you need over the years with carbon fibre or epoxy and fibre glass depending on how big the damage is. Worth buying a damaged second hand top of the line board and repairing it too. You may not have the latest colour scheme on the beach but who cares about that !
GAC 200 Hard acrylic extender (mixed with your acrylic colored paint) creates a much stronger bond for acrylic on hard non-porous surfaces. Brilliant repair! Keep doing what you do 👍‼️
Top repair job. I now know how epoxy works. I used to work in a repair shop fixing fiberglass sinks. I appreciate you pinning the materials and equipment.
Great video. Love that Qcell is still the go to stuff. For a softer paint edge you can put the paper on "Backwards" and then fold it over itself making a rounded tape line i.e. a curling wave. Leaves a really soft blended edge. Great job on that repair!
My first board was a 6'4 RipCurl fish , i got a huge sun bubble above my grip pad and it was on my stringer line . I let my local surfshop do the repair and it took 2 weeks ! I missed the best waves of the summer and was sooo pissed . After that happened i made it a point to learn how to fix my own boards so i would never miss swell ever again. That repair came out great in the video brother 👍🏽
Joe it’s wise to have a few boards in your quiver as they say , while it’s getting fixed you could have been out there still surfing if you had another similar board in hand , just sayin.
Some of the epoxy takes 12h+ to cure and need longer to sand properly. Count 3 layers + paint drying 2+ layers+ top coat... Yes 2 weeks can be normal, unless you are the only one in the line. Quick job can be done 1 day enough to get you going and then get it done properly when no waves.
Just came here to say you gave me the confidence to "restore" a surfboard, a robin mair hyperlink. Wasn't as bad as the ones you work on but I got it for $40 (was going to get thrown away if it wasnt bought) and now it's watertight again and back on the water. Watching your videos gave me a great idea what to look for and tips on repairing it. Thanks!
@@DadiszFekete its a different construction method with different materials an epoxy is just that, nothing more than epoxy resin, glass, and styrofoam, just like a poly board is polyester resin, glass and polyurethane foam.
Thank you so much for the tool info! That’s so helpful! I’ll share the results of the work on the old board I’m fixing. Your videos have been so valuable as I learn/prep before taking on the project.
I had one of these tuflite boards I bought sight unseen for a study abroad in Chile in 2005. First session down there the fin box blew out, couldn’t surf it for 6 months bc no one could fix it. Then got back to Hawaii later that year, got it fixed and first session there I wrapped it around a rock at rocky point, buckled. Tuflite is cursed.
I've owned a half dozen Tuflite boards over the last 20 years and never had much of a problem. They're much tougher and will take a huge beating compared to a regular polyester resin board. Easy to fix with epoxy and repainting isn't a big deal. Stay out of the rocks, but that's with any board.
Just found your channel and it's really cool to see these repairs. I know nothing about surfing but I do paint cars. Just a friendly comment here but if you tape off say the white area to paint the blue area and double your repair area size you can blend it out without hard lines. sand the board with 800 or 1000 grit past the repair area say 6 inches past your repair area on both sides. Next spray out past your repair area about 3-4 inches into the old paint but still leaving 2 inches of sanded area on both sides. Next spray your clear coat a tiny past your sanded area and I mean like 1/4 inch past and get some spray blender in a can and spray it a little on the edge of your new clear into the old clear and give it a little polish or possibly a lite compound and polish and youre good to go with no lines at all and you will hardly see the blend lines. Again i have no idea about surf board so this might not even be possible but if it is on these board then give it a try on scrap. If it works your customers will be beyond happy.
I’ve repaired my own tuflites and providing cosmetics aren’t a big concern it’s no big deal. Small non structural dings just fill with epoxy marine filler and paint over. Still riding a Randall French soul fish 17 years later!
Jolly good show Cornwall Dan! Been riding my 9'4" Takayama 'Hakman' for 15 plus years, hard and often. With a little touch up now and then it looks near new from 20 feet.
Randy French and he pretty much founded Tuflite. Here's one for you. My first shortboard was a Martin/Richards in 1970. Rode it in Cornwall and Wales. Had to return to the states so put it up for sale in the Bilbo shop in Swansea and they just happen to "lose" it. Never got as pence for it.
This doesn’t even look like work for you, more like a relaxing therapy session. It’s like watching a painting restoration specialist repairing a damaged masterpiece. Keep up the amazing work bra🤙🏻
That grey splotch drove me crazy lol. Should have went back and added more white and matched it better in my opinion but Im sure the camera also made it stand out more. Really cool video man great repair work
Thanks for the smooth presentation! I have an 11ft. Takayama Prince model that needs similar repairs. You are an excellent spokesman. I have a 10 ft Jacob's stepdeck hand shaped by Donald himself from the 60s. I bought it in Michigan in 1989 for $35. Still water tight! Thanks for good work!
@@Rogue_wave it was brought back from California.. some early attempt to surf behind a motorboat failed and it hung in garage until I got it. It was a spray painted physecellic rellic...I brought it back to Oregon and we cleaned it up. Surfed it, never put a leash on it and Sold it for $900 with the agreement that I could buy it back at any time. It sits in a living room in Otter Rock. Truly a Warhorse!!
Tufflite Randy Rarick 9'0'' and 10'0'' Waikiki Special . They are light strong and stiff. I need to do some repairs, so I appreciate your video. Thank you very much.
I have had several of these boards and this is exactly how I fix them. most of the colours can be bought from auto parts stores or auto paint specialists.
That looks amazing! how much would a repair that large cost?? A big chunk of the tail got broken off of my surftech SUP and I thought about trying to do it myself. I would rather pay someone if I can afford it....I am in Norcal if you have any references? thank you!
it's instances of these kinds of repairs that would make me want the repair shop to get creative and paint, like, a rising sun with sunglasses on or a shark bite in the same shape. Just adding a touch of individuality to the board can make the board look even better than it was in its original condition.
Good video. Also, these are easy repairs; I've done a number of them on my own with great results not showing any sign of repair on Tuflite boards. Tuflite also provides for sale paint matches for most of their boards.
buy a lot of toothbrushes. and when applying the white mass for the first time, use a toothbrush to apply the paste to the surface. this will help the paste get into hard-to-reach places.
You know you can go to car color centers or Napa and get exact match auto grade enamel epoxy paint in a rattle can. They are all over the country and can be cheap depending on pigments
@@Rogue_wave all good, ya if you can get the exact paint code used from the factory they can match it, or you can get a paint match scan at some places, if your dealing with fade.
Would this repair add any noticeable weight to the board, or would it be negligible/unnoticeable? I guess it's a question of how much do a couple of cups of epoxy with q-cell mixed in weigh compared to the original foam.
Do you use this epoxy for all boards including polyurethane as well as styro? I've got a poly board with a slight dent and I'm wondering if I need to completely cut out the outer layer of damaged resin and re-fill, or if I can patch over it. I've never repaired a board before, so I'm afraid of making mistakes. I feel like completely cutting out the dent would make more work than necessary. Appreciate your channel so much. It's empowering!
I need to make a repair on an older race board. I understand there are epoxy & polyester resins depending on the core. Without details about the board, how can I tell what the core is so that I use the proper resin? Also, I'm glad you mentioned the paint on the board in this video. I believe my board is similar and I am worried causing more damage.
Great question. I have a video called "which resin goes on which foam" that shows the difference. Usually, older boards are made with PU (polyurethane) foam. Some newer boards are made with EPS (aka expanded poly styrene), which is fancy way of saying styrofoam. If look closely and you can see the individual foam beads, its probably EPS, which you need to repair with epoxy.
Currently doing a NPS board. My board was laying on the floor of the garage and was ran over. I’m gonna be sanding it down and painting it I’m just for shits and giggles. I was gonna laminate the whole thing after putting a cool paint job on it.
I got a great video coming out soon! Maybe my best yet. I’m making an 8ft gun out of an old longboard. The waves are supposed to be very big the next couple days and I am meeting up with a friend who’s a videographer to get some footage of me riding it! Should have it up in a week or two. Thanks for checking in!!
I tried to fix my longboard not knowing it was epoxy. Turned a small ding into a big problem. Moral of the story, make sure you know what foam you have before you start applying resin. Great job on your repair.👏👏👏👏
They say in the boating world that epoxy sticks to polyester and vinylester better than they stick to themselves, but neither can stick to epoxy at all.
Cheap artists/crafters acrylic paints are very difficult to color match with the previous paint. Depending on the pigment or dye in the actual paint (and the binder in the paint) your colors can dry up to 30% darker in some cases. You have to paint much lighter expecting the colors to darken when dry so it’s a real crap shoot. Some of the more expensive paints have very little color shift.
Ace hardware white appliance epoxy spray paint matches the white of most of the white on epoxy pop out boards. Also curious what do you charge for a repair like that?
Check out model paint. You can get automotive paints in small quantities for model making. Might be less expensive and easier to use than a full automotive spray gun.
I repaired a lot of them pop out boards, the problem with these is that they have a venure and the boards are painted , and you got to remember when epoxy in volume will turn hot and burn the eps foam
Let me ask you a question, since I grew up with a Dad painting jetskis and other fiberglass projects in DuPont paint, which you can get at local autobody suppliers, why wouldnt you paint it.
Just a bit of insight of what we may do in aerospace: We would scarf the carbon plies before the wet lay. Possible technique: scarf, tape off the outside of the scarf, wet lay, then sand the repair section up to the tape seam. This may minimize unnecessarily sanding into the original carbon plies and would retain some of the structural integrity, as the repair would be feathered into the scarfed base plies.
Great video. thanks. Have you tried SuperMax 2K spray paint?It comes as a 2 component spray can with a hardener that you release into the can from a button under the can. I discovered it for a bike project, but if I'd known I would have definitely used it on my board repair. They have a clear coat off the shelf too. Amazingly strong stuff. It's proper auto paint in a can. A bit pricier than normal spray cans but the difference is incredible.
Nice. Any tips on getting the black line perfect? Tried masking and spraying but its hard to get a perfect line without paint seeping through. Could be the quality of the tape? Also, q cell vs expanding foam? Maybe this repair wasnt large enough to warrant expanding foam?
Expanding foam would have worked too but I don’t know how good it is at bonding to eps… I’ll try it next time! For pin lines, definitely use high quality tape, and lightly scrape a razor blade over it before painting.
Check out createx airbrush paints, that with the polyurethane additive, makes for a simple but strong paint, with good pigments and flow. It might be a better choice for what your doing.
get yourself some foam tape to get rid of the hard lines from the fine line its only a high edge because the build up over the tape you can tape farther and just blend that whole spot since its painted and cleared anyhow but your foam tape would replace the fine line and it creates a soft edge where the paint will lay under the foam edge n it feathers itself
@@freshsaltyfries5078 Sanding resin is what you use to hotcoat. You can buy sanding resin, or make it by combining surfacing agent and laminating resin (greenlight shaping supply has a chart to show ratios)
Gotchu. Hmm I’ve never heard of extra qcell making a mix hotter but bigger batches of resin will certainly get hotter. Mix your epoxy in smaller batches, or if you need to fill a big hole, use expanding insulation foam (the kind you spray out of a can).
@@Rogue_wave Hey there, I had a quarter sized crack in my board and I experimented with small qty of resin and hardener, the more Q cell I mixed in the hotter it got (did not put on board) its so weird??, can I ask which brand of epoxy resin and Q cell you use please? (I am using west 105 epoxy, 205 hardener and Ding All Q cell filler).
American Airlines buckled my 710 channel Islands water hog tuff lite board , on a trip to Puerto Rico take it back to South Florida and I had to pay $150 to get it fixed including paying for the paint to color match it the fiberglass board repair shop to the excellent job ! But I believe the glassing on my board was not so tough light. Yes, it was a tough no too many spider cracks. It would easily get cracked that way and then to top it off last December he got buckled again and rincon Puerto Rico with big waves I put an end to it and I left it behind just not worth it. I’ll never buy a tuff lite board ever again. ☝🏻
genius to mix the epoxy separately to make two thin and thick q-cell mixes, and great color match. fwiw: if you want a closer gloss as the board, you can use spray max 2k clear coat -- slightly more expensive than the rustoleum and really should wear a mask with it, but amazing clarity.
They might suck to fix but when they first came out, it was very hard to find a board with a better strength to weight ratio. As your video shows, if the shop has the skills, it can be done, nice work!
Facts! Thanks Harry.
@@Rogue_wave Nice repair. I'd be interested to know how much a standard repair like this costs though. Bigger shops don't do it also because it's not worth their time !
That was simply an amazing repair!
Craftsmanship and artist level work right there, Sir.
I've always told myself that prep is like 90% of painting
Ive always told myself to fling a bunch of paint off the roller and regret not putting down a tarp as I scrape little paint dots from the floor
It really is.
🤣😅😂 dying at that comment ... the guys got no idea how to paint or prep
Autobody work can takes months and months of work depending on what you're doing my dad has been a car painter his whole life I've seen him work on a single car for months sanding bumpers over and over and if the paint gets messed up wet sanding and re doing its alot just for paint it's why people are doing wraps now it's cost too much to pay someone to paint anymore
I kinda like that you can still see the repairs. Its keeps that relic look, but functions like new
Great to see you put in the time to do an esthetically and structurally sound repair. And good on the owner of that board for getting it fixed rather than adding it to a landfill.
Thank you!
Buy a quality board and keep it for life. Same goes for many other things.
I've had many windsurfers and the ONLY boards that last are expensively built hollow carbon fibre boards. Expensive to buy or build BUT they can be repaired as much as you need over the years with carbon fibre or epoxy and fibre glass depending on how big the damage is.
Worth buying a damaged second hand top of the line board and repairing it too.
You may not have the latest colour scheme on the beach but who cares about that !
GAC 200 Hard acrylic extender (mixed with your acrylic colored paint) creates a much stronger bond for acrylic on hard non-porous surfaces. Brilliant repair! Keep doing what you do 👍‼️
Dan, this is an awesome tip, thank you!
Top repair job. I now know how epoxy works. I used to work in a repair shop fixing fiberglass sinks. I appreciate you pinning the materials and equipment.
Great video. Love that Qcell is still the go to stuff. For a softer paint edge you can put the paper on "Backwards" and then fold it over itself making a rounded tape line i.e. a curling wave. Leaves a really soft blended edge. Great job on that repair!
Wow really cool tip, thanks!
@@Rogue_wave Here's someone showing exactly how to do it! ruclips.net/video/n4vusY2-rkQ/видео.html
Such a great tempo of video to narration. Learned a ton! Thank you sir
My first board was a 6'4 RipCurl fish , i got a huge sun bubble above my grip pad and it was on my stringer line . I let my local surfshop do the repair and it took 2 weeks ! I missed the best waves of the summer and was sooo pissed . After that happened i made it a point to learn how to fix my own boards so i would never miss swell ever again. That repair came out great in the video brother 👍🏽
Good on ya. A lot of places in LA take over a month…
@@Rogue_wave
A month wtf? Here in Melbourne Australia i can get it the next day
Joe it’s wise to have a few boards in your quiver as they say , while it’s getting fixed you could have been out there still surfing if you had another similar board in hand , just sayin.
Dji, thats great. Got to visit Melbourne when I lived in Australia for a few months. Beautiful city! Ytany, that’s for sure.
Some of the epoxy takes 12h+ to cure and need longer to sand properly. Count 3 layers + paint drying 2+ layers+ top coat... Yes 2 weeks can be normal, unless you are the only one in the line.
Quick job can be done 1 day enough to get you going and then get it done properly when no waves.
Just rewatched this Dave… loved seeing Uncle Chuck’s board getting a new life!
Thanks for saving that Tuflite Takayama Scorpion. Love those boards
Flow Egg!
Just came here to say you gave me the confidence to "restore" a surfboard, a robin mair hyperlink. Wasn't as bad as the ones you work on but I got it for $40 (was going to get thrown away if it wasnt bought) and now it's watertight again and back on the water. Watching your videos gave me a great idea what to look for and tips on repairing it. Thanks!
That’s sick! I’m glad other people are seeing my vids and getting inspired. Thanks for writing Ben!
4:35 if your customer's expectations are met each time, you are golden. Like you said its on you to set those expectations.
Professional job! I bet the owner was ecstatic when he saw how you restored it's glory.👍🤙
Nice! I’m actually about to try and retrofit some twin fins to a tufflite board!
I was a little worried about working on this material.
Huge fan here from Spain, all your works look amazing!
Thank you :) Love Spain and want to visit one day!
Same here. Amazing finish. Big fan from the UK.
Epoxy boards ding fix is usually a throw away solution.This turned out awesome=a lost art.
I imagine that much work isn't cheap.
These days the price of a board I wouldn’t be throwing it away , if it’s your favourite board I would be trying to save it for sure. 👍
this is not the same as an epoxy board, this is tuflite. completely different.
@@xisotopexcan you clarify?
@@DadiszFekete its a different construction method with different materials
an epoxy is just that, nothing more than epoxy resin, glass, and styrofoam, just like a poly board is polyester resin, glass and polyurethane foam.
So I put down tape to help remedy sanding out undamaged areas. Your end result was fantastic.
Thank you!
cool video. i dont surf, never have, but i really enjoy learning a skill from someone who really knows what they're doing. thanks for sharing.
Just. Wow. Your videos help a lot. I have a board that needs help after flying home. Getting the knowledge ish to try a repair job
Airlines man, don't get me started... happy my videos can be of some help!
Thank you so much for the tool info! That’s so helpful! I’ll share the results of the work on the old board I’m fixing. Your videos have been so valuable as I learn/prep before taking on the project.
I had one of these tuflite boards I bought sight unseen for a study abroad in Chile in 2005. First session down there the fin box blew out, couldn’t surf it for 6 months bc no one could fix it. Then got back to Hawaii later that year, got it fixed and first session there I wrapped it around a rock at rocky point, buckled. Tuflite is cursed.
Surfing is cursed. It's part of the game :-)
I've owned a half dozen Tuflite boards over the last 20 years and never had much of a problem. They're much tougher and will take a huge beating compared to a regular polyester resin board. Easy to fix with epoxy and repainting isn't a big deal. Stay out of the rocks, but that's with any board.
Just found your channel and it's really cool to see these repairs. I know nothing about surfing but I do paint cars. Just a friendly comment here but if you tape off say the white area to paint the blue area and double your repair area size you can blend it out without hard lines. sand the board with 800 or 1000 grit past the repair area say 6 inches past your repair area on both sides. Next spray out past your repair area about 3-4 inches into the old paint but still leaving 2 inches of sanded area on both sides. Next spray your clear coat a tiny past your sanded area and I mean like 1/4 inch past and get some spray blender in a can and spray it a little on the edge of your new clear into the old clear and give it a little polish or possibly a lite compound and polish and youre good to go with no lines at all and you will hardly see the blend lines. Again i have no idea about surf board so this might not even be possible but if it is on these board then give it a try on scrap. If it works your customers will be beyond happy.
I’ve repaired my own tuflites and providing cosmetics aren’t a big concern it’s no big deal. Small non structural dings just fill with epoxy marine filler and paint over. Still riding a Randall French soul fish 17 years later!
I've used white Marine Tex on my epoxy boards as a short term repair on small damage several times, as long as it's dry inside.
This is the way😂
Jolly good show Cornwall Dan! Been riding my 9'4" Takayama 'Hakman' for 15 plus years, hard and often. With a little touch up now and then it looks near new from 20 feet.
Randy French and he pretty much founded Tuflite. Here's one for you. My first shortboard was a Martin/Richards in 1970. Rode it in Cornwall and Wales. Had to return to the states so put it up for sale in the Bilbo shop in Swansea and they just happen to "lose" it. Never got as pence for it.
I have the exact same board. Thanks for sharing!
You are an artist, thanks for the video and the vibs...
This doesn’t even look like work for you, more like a relaxing therapy session. It’s like watching a painting restoration specialist repairing a damaged masterpiece. Keep up the amazing work bra🤙🏻
Thanks Jim. It is definitely satisfying and relaxing work.
That grey splotch drove me crazy lol. Should have went back and added more white and matched it better in my opinion but Im sure the camera also made it stand out more. Really cool video man great repair work
It actually needed a tiny bit of green! Thanks dude 🤙🏻
Thanks for the smooth presentation! I have an 11ft. Takayama Prince model that needs similar repairs. You are an excellent spokesman. I have a 10 ft Jacob's stepdeck hand shaped by Donald himself from the 60s. I bought it in Michigan in 1989 for $35. Still water tight! Thanks for good work!
Wow. How’d it end up in Michigan?? Thanks for the kind words 🤙🏻
@@Rogue_wave it was brought back from California.. some early attempt to surf behind a motorboat failed and it hung in garage until I got it. It was a spray painted physecellic rellic...I brought it back to Oregon and we cleaned it up. Surfed it, never put a leash on it and Sold it for $900 with the agreement that I could buy it back at any time. It sits in a living room in Otter Rock.
Truly a Warhorse!!
@@paulhansen6496 a Kuhio is more like a glider? It'd be great for Waikiki and other rollers that don't break. A motorboat wake... idk man.
Tufflite Randy Rarick 9'0'' and 10'0'' Waikiki Special .
They are light strong and stiff.
I need to do some repairs, so I appreciate your video.
Thank you very much.
Wow! Great job on the repair!
I used 2k automotive paint (2 component) for my foil and it’s very tough if you finish it with the 2k clear as well (I used epoxy instead)
Thanks I’m gonna check out that 2k clear finish
@@Rogue_wave They sell 2k clear in spray cans. Basically automotive grade. SprayMax is probably the most common and easiest to find.
Killer board and awsome work sir!.
Excellent work!
Amazing job. I love those tufflite boards especially my 7'2" CI Waterhog
I have had several of these boards and this is exactly how I fix them. most of the colours can be bought from auto parts stores or auto paint specialists.
I just bought a dinged up JC Hawaii for $40. I'm gonna fix it, then learn to surf. Thanks for the instruction.
Good luck amigo!
This was unreal. Thanks
Thank so much 🤙🏻
Jolly good! Very helpful video. Thanks!
That looks amazing! how much would a repair that large cost?? A big chunk of the tail got broken off of my surftech SUP and I thought about trying to do it myself. I would rather pay someone if I can afford it....I am in Norcal if you have any references? thank you!
it's instances of these kinds of repairs that would make me want the repair shop to get creative and paint, like, a rising sun with sunglasses on or a shark bite in the same shape. Just adding a touch of individuality to the board can make the board look even better than it was in its original condition.
Good video. Also, these are easy repairs; I've done a number of them on my own with great results not showing any sign of repair on Tuflite boards. Tuflite also provides for sale paint matches for most of their boards.
buy a lot of toothbrushes. and when applying the white mass for the first time, use a toothbrush to apply the paste to the surface. this will help the paste get into hard-to-reach places.
tip
Why use epoxy filler to fill the cracks in the foam and not a marine polyurethane foam? Will the filler not break and crack when exposed to bending ?
Wow, thanks a lot. Just amazing technique ❤
Great video and great work!
What is chemicals and ingredients do you used to seal leaks? (1:44 min in this vedio) tools and suppiles ?
You know you can go to car color centers or Napa and get exact match auto grade enamel epoxy paint in a rattle can. They are all over the country and can be cheap depending on pigments
Wow, did not know that… thank you!
@@Rogue_wave all good, ya if you can get the exact paint code used from the factory they can match it, or you can get a paint match scan at some places, if your dealing with fade.
Would this repair add any noticeable weight to the board, or would it be negligible/unnoticeable? I guess it's a question of how much do a couple of cups of epoxy with q-cell mixed in weigh compared to the original foam.
You should have added a graphic shark bite at the repair site. Nice work , repair look great. I would have been very happy with the fix.
That's amazing very impressive. That gun looks like a sata.i used to be a automotive painter.
Do you use this epoxy for all boards including polyurethane as well as styro?
I've got a poly board with a slight dent and I'm wondering if I need to completely cut out the outer layer of damaged resin and re-fill, or if I can patch over it. I've never repaired a board before, so I'm afraid of making mistakes. I feel like completely cutting out the dent would make more work than necessary.
Appreciate your channel so much. It's empowering!
Nice work! Sorry if already asked, but why did you use the airbrush for the white and the big gun for the blue? I’m just getting into sprayer use.
I need to make a repair on an older race board. I understand there are epoxy & polyester resins depending on the core. Without details about the board, how can I tell what the core is so that I use the proper resin? Also, I'm glad you mentioned the paint on the board in this video. I believe my board is similar and I am worried causing more damage.
Great question. I have a video called "which resin goes on which foam" that shows the difference. Usually, older boards are made with PU (polyurethane) foam. Some newer boards are made with EPS (aka expanded poly styrene), which is fancy way of saying styrofoam. If look closely and you can see the individual foam beads, its probably EPS, which you need to repair with epoxy.
Thank you for your response! I will check out your other video as well.
Currently doing a NPS board. My board was laying on the floor of the garage and was ran over. I’m gonna be sanding it down and painting it I’m just for shits and giggles. I was gonna laminate the whole thing after putting a cool paint job on it.
Oof, I’ve run a board over too. Good luck!
Beautiful job man
if you call your local parts shop they will sell and deliver color matched automotive grade enamel paints usually :)
hey man Happy new year. Came to look if you had a new upload as the notification system is well...anyway. When ya fixing again? Need my therapy LOL
I got a great video coming out soon! Maybe my best yet. I’m making an 8ft gun out of an old longboard. The waves are supposed to be very big the next couple days and I am meeting up with a friend who’s a videographer to get some footage of me riding it! Should have it up in a week or two. Thanks for checking in!!
I tried to fix my longboard not knowing it was epoxy. Turned a small ding into a big problem. Moral of the story, make sure you know what foam you have before you start applying resin. Great job on your repair.👏👏👏👏
Oof, we’ve all been there…
They say in the boating world that epoxy sticks to polyester and vinylester better than they stick to themselves, but neither can stick to epoxy at all.
Cheap artists/crafters acrylic paints are very difficult to color match with the previous paint. Depending on the pigment or dye in the actual paint (and the binder in the paint) your colors can dry up to 30% darker in some cases. You have to paint much lighter expecting the colors to darken when dry so it’s a real crap shoot. Some of the more expensive paints have very little color shift.
Worked in pigment dispersions for a year. Remember for just red there was something like over 150 available raw materials. Not easy!
Ace hardware white appliance epoxy spray paint matches the white of most of the white on epoxy pop out boards. Also curious what do you charge for a repair like that?
Check out model paint. You can get automotive paints in small quantities for model making. Might be less expensive and easier to use than a full automotive spray gun.
Will do thanks!
I repaired a lot of them pop out boards, the problem with these is that they have a venure and the boards are painted , and you got to remember when epoxy in volume will turn hot and burn the eps foam
Yes indeed
Are you using a special epoxy? What is the name of what you added to thicken it?
Love your process .... Nice job !!~
Good tools! Good work!
Why use clear coat instead of hot coating after you paint? Just so you don't have to wet sand and polish?
Let me ask you a question, since I grew up with a Dad painting jetskis and other fiberglass projects in DuPont paint, which you can get at local autobody suppliers, why wouldnt you paint it.
Respect! Nicely done!
Nice work.I have a couple of tuflites,pretty hard to ding,but I’ve managed.Some good repair ideas here…..Cheers
Can anyone help me with the list of materials to get this job done please! ?
how much money does it cost to make that repair approximately, I repair tables professionally and it is to see how the market is
Why is it grey where you've sanded away the original paint?
You can get 2k clear in a spray can with hardener which will make your paint more durable.
Food for thought, if you can't make the paint match, maybe you can make it contrast in a beautiful way? Like a cover up tattoo, or Kintsugi
What all solutions are used in this repair ? Can anyone name these materials
Sick job man that was impressive
How much does a repair like this cost? And at what point should you just get a new one?
Amazing results! 👏😃
Toolbox tour!
Just a bit of insight of what we may do in aerospace:
We would scarf the carbon plies before the wet lay. Possible technique: scarf, tape off the outside of the scarf, wet lay, then sand the repair section up to the tape seam. This may minimize unnecessarily sanding into the original carbon plies and would retain some of the structural integrity, as the repair would be feathered into the scarfed base plies.
Helpful, thank you! Aerospace work is so precise.
Great video. thanks. Have you tried SuperMax 2K spray paint?It comes as a 2 component spray can with a hardener that you release into the can from a button under the can. I discovered it for a bike project, but if I'd known I would have definitely used it on my board repair. They have a clear coat off the shelf too. Amazingly strong stuff. It's proper auto paint in a can. A bit pricier than normal spray cans but the difference is incredible.
Trying this today on a board! Thanks for the tip!
@@Rogue_wave Great. Look forward to hearing about how it goes.
Nice work!
Hi! with the inside expose, how can you tell if there has been water damage?
Usually it will be wet, or discolored.
Nice work! Keeping surfer’s rides ( and investments) surfable…an honourable employment. Cheers, John 🤙
Nice. Any tips on getting the black line perfect? Tried masking and spraying but its hard to get a perfect line without paint seeping through. Could be the quality of the tape?
Also, q cell vs expanding foam? Maybe this repair wasnt large enough to warrant expanding foam?
Expanding foam would have worked too but I don’t know how good it is at bonding to eps… I’ll try it next time!
For pin lines, definitely use high quality tape, and lightly scrape a razor blade over it before painting.
@@Rogue_wave Thanks - scrape a razor blade over the tape or the board?
Check out createx airbrush paints, that with the polyurethane additive, makes for a simple but strong paint, with good pigments and flow. It might be a better choice for what your doing.
Thank you!
How much did you charge for that? Great work
Brilliant
get yourself some foam tape to get rid of the hard lines from the fine line its only a high edge because the build up over the tape you can tape farther and just blend that whole spot since its painted and cleared anyhow but your foam tape would replace the fine line and it creates a soft edge where the paint will lay under the foam edge n it feathers itself
seen some 2 part foam for lighter fill?
Beautiful job
Nice job!
Mad skill! Nice repair-
Thanks Tom!
Excellent work! Must be very satisfying to repair boards.
Thanks for sharing! What outside temperature you Recommended for using expoxy resin with micro filler? Any tips helps thanks 😊
I live in LA so anything between 45-80 degrees and it cures fine. Just takes longer when it’s cold.
@@Rogue_wave ok great I’m from so cal as well. Once last question when doing your hot quote do you add any additive?
@@freshsaltyfries5078 Sanding resin is what you use to hotcoat. You can buy sanding resin, or make it by combining surfacing agent and laminating resin (greenlight shaping supply has a chart to show ratios)
Gear video 👍 whenever I mix in a lot of Q cell the resin gets extremely hot? Any ideas
Gotchu. Hmm I’ve never heard of extra qcell making a mix hotter but bigger batches of resin will certainly get hotter. Mix your epoxy in smaller batches, or if you need to fill a big hole, use expanding insulation foam (the kind you spray out of a can).
@@Rogue_wave Hey there, I had a quarter sized crack in my board and I experimented with small qty of resin and hardener, the more Q cell I mixed in the hotter it got (did not put on board) its so weird??, can I ask which brand of epoxy resin and Q cell you use please? (I am using west 105 epoxy, 205 hardener and Ding All Q cell filler).
American Airlines buckled my 710 channel Islands water hog tuff lite board , on a trip to Puerto Rico take it back to South Florida and I had to pay $150 to get it fixed including paying for the paint to color match it the fiberglass board repair shop to the excellent job ! But I believe the glassing on my board was not so tough light. Yes, it was a tough no too many spider cracks. It would easily get cracked that way and then to top it off last December he got buckled again and rincon Puerto Rico with big waves I put an end to it and I left it behind just not worth it. I’ll never buy a tuff lite board ever again. ☝🏻
They’re not my favorite to work on or to surf!
genius to mix the epoxy separately to make two thin and thick q-cell mixes, and great color match. fwiw: if you want a closer gloss as the board, you can use spray max 2k clear coat -- slightly more expensive than the rustoleum and really should wear a mask with it, but amazing clarity.
Thank you! Can’t wait to try the 2k someone else told me about that too.