I love the way this is shot. They way River enters all dramatically and then the camera zooms in as she reveals her face and says that line, like we already know who she is. Genius.
Yeah it adds so much impact rewatching it, cause you feel the large impact even more unlike the first viewing where we question if we have met this character before or why she has a big entrance
It's beautifully done partially because... if watched in chronological order, we're with the Doctor. We're literally feeling what he's feeling. And if not, well, we're with River. You can't help but be aligned with one of the two. This is still one of Moffat's crowning glories, I think.
they will see one another again after that if you paid attention during that episode she told him she was connected to clara, clara was gone so why was she still there
I mean, do you remember Cassandra in the end of time? 'Brings out a jukebox'. - This... is an iPod. Plays classical Earth music. Now, the music isn't what we would define as 'classical,' but it may be what they consider 'classical,' so I'll ignore it... I laughed at that - I'm sure Rose and the Doctor got a good laugh of it in their heads as well.
i got the chance to say that this christmas. My sister is dating an archaeologist and my work has me travelling alot and i love being vague about my work to new people. Anyways I met him and you know when you can tell someone a nerd or really up tight? I was like "Oh so what do you do for a living?" And when he said "Im an archaeologist"! I turned, looked him dead in the eyes and said "Im a time traveller, i point and laugh at archaeologists." After that we had a good laugh and ate, later he asked "SO....what DOES your brother do?" And my sister was like "You know, he never said. He just comes and goes every few months." So vague, so fun, so true.
@@nightowl8477 because people are stupid its human nature really, not to mention anything british is beyond the comprehension of other countries and goes way over their heads
@@nightowl8477 it doesn't have to be intentional to be worth noticing or pointing out. Still makes for an interesting parallel when its not intentional.
Oh. I've just realised that the first time that she had met him, she was wearing a Space-suit. XD As Rumple would say: "When you know the future, there's irony everywhere."
The trouble is, it's all back to front. My past is his future. We're travelling in opposite directions. Every time we meet, I know him more, he knows me less. I live for the days when I see him, but I know that every time I do, he'll be one step further away. And the day is coming when I'll look into that man's eyes, my Doctor, and he won't have the faintest idea who I am. And I think it's going to kill me. she had no idea
"Got a problem with Archeologists?" "I'm a time traveler I point and laugh at archeologists" "Ah! *extends hand for hand shake* Professor River Song, ARCHEOLOGIST" Gets me every time😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No matter what you think about Moffat’s overarching plot skills, you have to admire the brilliance of his work with River Song over the course of 3 Doctors.
and he tried it again with his television version of Audrey Niffenegger's The Timetraveller's Wife, which unfortunately got cancelled after a single season. The novel was basically the inspiration for the Doctor's and River's relationship. I didn't realise it till now, but in the novel they also first met (from his perspective) in a library. 😅
@@HOTD108_ In this episode, she acted like she knew the face of David Tennant. She even wanted to compare the diary, which was odd even at the end of the story of River Song. But then she understood it is not the same face. This one was "way" younger. So now let me ask you, whose face, looking exactly like David Tennant and looks older then how he was? Yeah. 14th. So there is still opportunity for Alex Kingston to show up imo.
First time watching this: meh. Don’t know her don’t care. Watching this after every single episode with River Song: “DOCTOR, SHE’S YOUR WIFE! HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THAT?!” *Cries throughout entire episode*
Same. I watch this for the creature. Was like oh no shadow bad. After a few years. I finally know why river is so important in this scene and I was like (old me, how dare u ignore a important moment)
I'm always amazed at how even though none of the actors new what her character would become, they still conveyed every emotion perfectly and supplied a great end to the story of River Song, who wasn't even fully fleshed out yet.
To be fair, 10 was not HER Doctor. Of course she loves him all the same with any of his regenerations, but 11 was her Doctor and so was 12 for the short time she had with him.
@@torigrant1211 She had 24 years with 12 and undoubtedly at some point in those years a working time machine. In short, she had forever.That’s always been the problem with Moffat, he always undercuts his sad endings that he’d previously established.
@@mrbubbles6468if she left Derillium, there was no guarantee that she would ever make it back. We do not necessarily know know where the expedition was being advertised, so the bait was always the danger.
That must have seriously hurt. I mean u expect it as a time traveller but that moment when ur significant other looks thru u and says "get out!" Man that's gotta burn
‼️ WHOA... This just hit me... ‼️ The last time River sees the Doctor she's wearing an astronaut suit. The first time she sees the Doctor (as a child) she's wearing an astronaut suit. 🤯 What beautiful poetry.
"I'm a time-traveler, I point and laugh at archeologists" Eleven with Amy in a future museum "Wrong! ...wrong! ...sort of right but mostly wrong- ooh! one of mine! =) "
Gosh, what a brilliant idea. Build a brilliant relationship between a character and the audience, even when you know the end of the character from the beginning. Seeing the character development and not being able to say "save yourself!"
The Doctor's problem is that he's WAAAAAYY too vague. "Hey! Hey you! Stay out of the shadows and go home!" (obviously the ravings of a madman) But if he was INSTEAD like: "Hey, there's an alien species here that lives in the shadows. We're surrounded. Stay in the light, get back in your ship, and fly away." (still might not believe, but less likely to go running into shadows willy-nilly all the same)
Seems to be a common way of building tension. Keeps happening, and it's annoying when you see it. Buut... if it helps, how am I to complain over the result?
S.A.M. It's because he's really smart so when he states something like that he expects you to get it and listen. Seems arrogant but it fits his character, because explaining something takes time and effort so he'd rather you just trust and do as he says. To humans he probably feels like he's explaining how a particle accelerator works to a 5 year old.
“The Doctor meets River Song” and “River Song meets The Doctor” are two completely different events. And that’s not even the most wibbly wobbly event in the series. 10, 11 and 12 all have a final goodbye with River Song.
It took me awhile to warm up to River Song. She's one of my favorite characters now that I'm rewatching the series. Though I do still think that they should have had her show up at least one more time during Tennet's reign as the Doctor, just so it would make sense that it takes her a moment to realize that she's never seen the Doctor when he was that young before. As it is right now, she's only really interacted with him as the 11th (and 12th does not count, given that that story is hinged on her not recognizing that form), so it should have been obvious that he was younger than she's ever known him.
@@Tan-whippie I mean, that’s nice. But personally I think it’s kind of bad story telling if you need to turn to a different media in order for a story to make sense-but that’s just me. I know that there are a lot of shows that do tie ins with books and comics and video games and more, but I just never warmed up to that trend,
There's nothing irrational about fearing the dark. The dark contains the unknown and the unknown contains the potential for danger. Therefore, being wary of the dark means being wary of _danger._ It's one of the most rational, instinctive reactions in _existence._
On a less philosophical, more biological level, preadators are more often nocturnal. The night is their domain, and in the dark you'll never see them coming. If you stay in the light, you stay alive
I posted that about 6 months ago. Also, time zones. Also, i dont have a bed time. I suffer from somniphobia (fear of sleep) so I usually don'tstart laying in bed until about 2am.
12: You married an android and you didn't even know it Anita: How do you know there not androids? River: cuzns I've dated androids and there rubbish. Haha.
This is how you do horror. Make it ubiquitous, never show it, imply that it will eat you. They’re everywhere, you can’t see them, you will die. I forget how genuinely terrifying Doctor Who used to be when it was good!
River Song: "Whatever came here is long dead." Doctor: "Bet your life?" River Song: "Always." *The Vashta Nerada are not dead and River Song dies at the end of the arc.* Turns out she lost the bet and held up on her end of the bet.
+FictionalLives technically she saw 11th doctor when he was at his grave after her mind was stored in the archive thingy, then they kissed and she faded away
+Panda mania Oh, I completely forgot about that, but that was after she died though?? So ten would've still been the last Doctor she saw before her death, right??
If David tennant is cast as the 14th doctor it makes sense why River recognised the tenth thinking its the 14th, potential for River to come back for 60th as well.
You know what hurts? This is Rivers death and we didn't know her now, just like the Doctor, she's no one very important now and then we got to know her and love her and it hurts because we know that she dies here in the library. We know how her story ends we just didn't know how much we would love her until later
Vashta Nerada only consume living matter. In the presence of Vashta Nerada, a Weeping Angel would quantum lock because the Vashta Nerada would be "looking" at it. Since the Weeping Angel would, thus, be inanimate stone, the Vashta Nerada would ignore it.
These two episodes and all the things River does (the diary, the "Hello Sweetie," etc.) make so much more sense when you go back to rewatch after seeing all the other River episodes. But it also makes it so much sadder. At this point in the show, it almost seemed like she would just be a one-off character like Jenny or Astrid. But you can definitely tell looking back that Steven Moffat had River's entire storyline planned out for a long time.
Just came here after watching Husbands of River Song. How long was Stephen Moffat planning River’s timeline?!?! That last night on Darillium makes Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead so much sadder.
By this point Moffat was going to be showrunner, and he knew it. So River's notebook in this episode actually had all of River's timeline written in there. He had it planned since this before this episode, because he knew he'd be able to expand on it in his era.
After I saw this episode I went back and watched the whole damn show again, I was sure she had been on before. It was a thrill for me to see her pop up I've had a huge crush on her since ER.
The Doctor: "Almost every species in the universe has an irrational fear of the dark. But they're wrong, because it's not irrational. It's Vashta Nerada." Me: Well thanks for that I'm never going to be able to sleep again.
2:09 One of the freakiest shots I've EVER seen. The Doctor is the only one in the room who understands how much danger they're in at this point, and I think the lack of music and sound shows how nonchalantly the crew members are behaving.The buzzing sound of the lights that SHOULD be working also freaks me the fk out. You can't see anything in this shot, it's probably infested with Vashta already. "Seal up this door, we'll find another way out", the Doctor isn't wasting any time to sacrifice an exit - when he's terrified, I am. The urgency in his voice gives me the chills.
I bursted out laughing when I first saw this, because I made a mistake a skipped this episode. So a while back I watched it but when she came up to him like "Hello Sweetie :)" and he instantly is like "Get out" I was like darn :DDDD
Andrew Wells How has no one else picked up on that in 12 months?! That's bloody brilliant! Maybe dust is another lie we tell ourselves hehe. You could also see dust as a Chinese whispers watering of Vashtu Narada. what's in the dark? Vashtu Narada, what's that? Dashtu Nada in the dark, Dusta, nothing in the dark, dust. Or I'm just a madman, without a box :-D
2:26 LOL i love and hate this, its amazing how they both had theexact same reaction, but also kinda sad because ms, evangelista is just doin her best. lol
Alex Kingston really blew these episodes out of the park with her acting. She did such a good job of playing someone who had known the Doctor for years and years, despite this being her first time on the series.
When we watch this now - knowing what River becomes to (and with) The Doctor - his completely nothing response to her greeting of "Hello, Sweetie" is 100x more heartbreaking ...
In "The Husbands Of River Song", River stated that that night (24 years)was supposedly their last night together. However in this episode she calls for The Doctor on his psychic paper I'm guessing hoping for Matt Smith's Doctor but gets Tennant's as the message goes wrong!!
ME first watching THIS: who is this?! She certainly know the Doctor the ending-THIS is someone that knows him! NOW-😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥 WHY?! Deja Vu for her, now she knows how he felt! the ending-(imaging the Husband's of River Song)😥😥😥😥😥😥
She told her father (Rory) that she always knew this day would come, the day the Doctor has no idea who she is, when he technically meets her for the first time. But she knew this was the Doctor because in the Husbands of River Song she had a list of all his faces, she just didn’t know how many doctors knew her.
I can see how for the first few minutes River still thought he knew her, reminds me a lot of the banter 11 had trying to play dumb. Though I have to say, the way 10 said he was a time traveller at 1:10 so non nonchalantly did make it seem like he knew her.
I recently rewatched this episode. After seeing everything River and the Doctor did together, it was so heartbreaking to see that look on River's face when he didn't know who she was
After knowing her timeline, this episode confused me. Throughout the episode River is trying to figure out if the Doctor knows who she is. In the husbands of river song, we see that river knows all of Doctor's faces therefore his timeline so she must have known that this regeneration hasn't met her yet. So that got me thinking, has river met the 10th Doctor before the library?Sure she might have seen him and not interfere or she might steal his tardis while he was away but she expects him to know her. She's surprised when he doesn't recognise her. Has anyone got an explanation for this, am I missing something?
Well, she doesn't know if they've met before in 10's timeline. She might, in her future. She doesn't know it's the last time they meet in her timeline.
Tenth was scheduled to have another episode with River Song, that's why Tennant's face in in her diary prior to her meeting him here. So yeah, she has met him before (according to her own timeline) but we never got to see it happen. That would be after the library in the doctor's timeline, and before the library in River's timeline. Hope this helps 😁
I just love the fact that River became an archaeologist simply because she knew it would annoy the Doctor.
Indi Heaton I thought she did it because it meant she could look for traces of the Doctor throughout history?
Indi Heaton
No, she became an archaeologist because it's the easier way to track The Doctor.
Good news, it's both !
how would she know that he would be annoyed if she hadn't met him yet
cyber_ invasion This isn't the first time she met the Doctor. It's the first time the Doctor meets her.
Me when I first watched this: lady who do u think u are
Me re watching this: poor River he doesn't know who she is
I was like OK when I first saw it but knowing River, it was more heartbreaking ..
Barbara Lockhart
That was an accident
same
this episode is much scarier the second or third time round
I love the way this is shot. They way River enters all dramatically and then the camera zooms in as she reveals her face and says that line, like we already know who she is. Genius.
NJB NJB
Yeah it adds so much impact rewatching it, cause you feel the large impact even more unlike the first viewing where we question if we have met this character before or why she has a big entrance
Like the Hulk said "Time Travel!"
and the astronaut suit is a nice easter egg too, given how she was supposed to kill him before becoming River ^^
It's beautifully done partially because... if watched in chronological order, we're with the Doctor. We're literally feeling what he's feeling. And if not, well, we're with River.
You can't help but be aligned with one of the two.
This is still one of Moffat's crowning glories, I think.
The first thing the doctor tells river song is "get out"
That's okay, I didn't need my heart
Ehh no, that's not the first thing the Doctor said to River, that's only the first line he had with her in the show.
it's the first thing he said to her in his timeline
+Natalia Olivas this is the last time she sees the doctor and 10th doctor is the last doctor she sees
Well, not really the last time. She gets uploaded inside the computer and sees him again when he first visits Trenzalore. Well, first time for him.
they will see one another again after that if you paid attention during that episode she told him she was connected to clara, clara was gone so why was she still there
Love that line: "I'm a time traveller. I point and laugh at archaeologists." Bet he does, loads.😀
James Spring he laughs and points at her at demons run when she is a baby
I mean, do you remember Cassandra in the end of time?
'Brings out a jukebox'.
- This... is an iPod. Plays classical Earth music.
Now, the music isn't what we would define as 'classical,' but it may be what they consider 'classical,' so I'll ignore it...
I laughed at that - I'm sure Rose and the Doctor got a good laugh of it in their heads as well.
i got the chance to say that this christmas. My sister is dating an archaeologist and my work has me travelling alot and i love being vague about my work to new people. Anyways I met him and you know when you can tell someone a nerd or really up tight? I was like "Oh so what do you do for a living?" And when he said "Im an archaeologist"! I turned, looked him dead in the eyes and said "Im a time traveller, i point and laugh at archaeologists." After that we had a good laugh and ate, later he asked "SO....what DOES your brother do?" And my sister was like "You know, he never said. He just comes and goes every few months." So vague, so fun, so true.
James Spring JamesSpring
+Llamad Mow
9 was too busy bobbing to the beat of Tainted Love to laugh.
A few years later, on Demon's Run, the Doctor points and laughs at baby Melody.
Joseph Simpson Who happens to be flesh
Why do people think this shit is intentional?
@@nightowl8477 because people are stupid its human nature really, not to mention anything british is beyond the comprehension of other countries and goes way over their heads
@Me thats not what i mean't the show is great, poetic and entertaining, its idiotic to think otherwise
@@nightowl8477 it doesn't have to be intentional to be worth noticing or pointing out. Still makes for an interesting parallel when its not intentional.
Donna and the Doctor tearing those papers simultaneously is great. Best friends and partners in crime. They had such a great chemistry
Agreed and it never felt forced
@@MyDestinyDear and now they’re back.
The best partners in time
Agreed. the best TARDIS team imo - along with 12 and Clara , who also felt very natural
@@baders087 12 and Clara had such great développement together
"Ive dated Androids" and hey,she does in the husbands of river song,good on ya moffet, covering your bases.
omg, very good observation :D
Oh! Oh! That's right!
But she “married the diamond”. 🙄😂
There's also her line from The Big Bang when she sees Rory:
_Nestene duplicate; I dated one once. Swapable heads. Did keep things fresh..._
11 also said he once made up a boyfriend too and its difficult to get rid of an android
Oh. I've just realised that the first time that she had met him, she was wearing a Space-suit. XD
As Rumple would say: "When you know the future, there's irony everywhere."
Well, technically.. the first time she met him she killed him. This is the first time he met her.
Time traveler logic.
Creznour Right, ok, the first time she met him when she was completely regenerated. XD
#Myrelationiscomplicated
+Creznour and the last time river sees the doctor...
Good catch
oh wow... I just realized that O.o
I know all the feels stand by river in this scene, but can we spare a second to notice donna in perfect sync with 10th?
sfex9 It was amazing
XD ya!
Though river rlly should’ve taken more notice of this
@@theplant8257 Well, from River's point of view, she knows all about Donna.
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The trouble is, it's all back to front. My past is his future. We're travelling in opposite directions. Every time we meet, I know him more, he knows me less. I live for the days when I see him, but I know that every time I do, he'll be one step further away. And the day is coming when I'll look into that man's eyes, my Doctor, and he won't have the faintest idea who I am. And I think it's going to kill me.
she had no idea
No, but we did
"Got a problem with Archeologists?"
"I'm a time traveler I point and laugh at archeologists"
"Ah! *extends hand for hand shake* Professor River Song, ARCHEOLOGIST"
Gets me every time😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Few years later, points at the Ponds' new baby and laughs
I love how Donna and the Doctor have the exact same reaction to the contracts.
"Hello, sweetie"
"...Get out."
I love it.
When River said, "I lied, I always do that" I dunno, it seems more satisfying hearing that now
CaruCath97 CarvCath97
Rule#1 the doctor lies
No matter what you think about Moffat’s overarching plot skills, you have to admire the brilliance of his work with River Song over the course of 3 Doctors.
Since 10's back we might get River back for an episode or so.
@@123455thatguyHow could that possibly fit into River's timeline?
@@HOTD108_ Easily? Her timeline isn't linear. When she met 10 it was at the end of her time with him. It'll just be at some point before then.
and he tried it again with his television version of Audrey Niffenegger's The Timetraveller's Wife, which unfortunately got cancelled after a single season.
The novel was basically the inspiration for the Doctor's and River's relationship. I didn't realise it till now, but in the novel they also first met (from his perspective) in a library. 😅
@@HOTD108_ In this episode, she acted like she knew the face of David Tennant. She even wanted to compare the diary, which was odd even at the end of the story of River Song. But then she understood it is not the same face. This one was "way" younger. So now let me ask you, whose face, looking exactly like David Tennant and looks older then how he was? Yeah. 14th. So there is still opportunity for Alex Kingston to show up imo.
So... The episode where River dies - she's wearing a spacesuit... The episode she "kills" the Doctor - she's wearing a spacesuit...
mind is blown....
Spacesuits are her thing
Moffatt, you crazy bastard
she’s wearing a spacesuit the first time she meets him (1969) and the last time she meets him (SIL)
First time watching this: meh. Don’t know her don’t care.
Watching this after every single episode with River Song: “DOCTOR, SHE’S YOUR WIFE! HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THAT?!” *Cries throughout entire episode*
Same. I watch this for the creature. Was like oh no shadow bad. After a few years. I finally know why river is so important in this scene and I was like (old me, how dare u ignore a important moment)
I'm always amazed at how even though none of the actors new what her character would become, they still conveyed every emotion perfectly and supplied a great end to the story of River Song, who wasn't even fully fleshed out yet.
To be fair, 10 was not HER Doctor. Of course she loves him all the same with any of his regenerations, but 11 was her Doctor and so was 12 for the short time she had with him.
@@torigrant1211 She had 24 years with 12 and undoubtedly at some point in those years a working time machine. In short, she had forever.That’s always been the problem with Moffat, he always undercuts his sad endings that he’d previously established.
@@mrbubbles6468if she left Derillium, there was no guarantee that she would ever make it back. We do not necessarily know know where the expedition was being advertised, so the bait was always the danger.
"I'm other Dave, that's proper Dave the pilot, he was here first." Oh doctor who 😂
It’s just a funny joke I don’t think you’re meant to get it. It’s just a ‘haha they are both called Dave and they have a silly way of remembering
1:48 I love how she actively tries to look more scared. That's a great little touch.
That must have seriously hurt. I mean u expect it as a time traveller but that moment when ur significant other looks thru u and says "get out!" Man that's gotta burn
‼️ WHOA... This just hit me... ‼️
The last time River sees the Doctor she's wearing an astronaut suit.
The first time she sees the Doctor (as a child) she's wearing an astronaut suit. 🤯
What beautiful poetry.
"I'm a time-traveler, I point and laugh at archeologists" Eleven with Amy in a future museum "Wrong! ...wrong! ...sort of right but mostly wrong- ooh! one of mine! =) "
Gosh, what a brilliant idea. Build a brilliant relationship between a character and the audience, even when you know the end of the character from the beginning. Seeing the character development and not being able to say "save yourself!"
To quote Michael Buble: "I just haven't met you yet"
Or you just haven't met me yet
The Doctor's problem is that he's WAAAAAYY too vague.
"Hey! Hey you! Stay out of the shadows and go home!"
(obviously the ravings of a madman)
But if he was INSTEAD like:
"Hey, there's an alien species here that lives in the shadows. We're surrounded. Stay in the light, get back in your ship, and fly away."
(still might not believe, but less likely to go running into shadows willy-nilly all the same)
Seems to be a common way of building tension. Keeps happening, and it's annoying when you see it. Buut... if it helps, how am I to complain over the result?
S.A.M. It's because he's really smart so when he states something like that he expects you to get it and listen. Seems arrogant but it fits his character, because explaining something takes time and effort so he'd rather you just trust and do as he says. To humans he probably feels like he's explaining how a particle accelerator works to a 5 year old.
Then there wouldn't be a story.
“The Doctor meets River Song” and “River Song meets The Doctor” are two completely different events. And that’s not even the most wibbly wobbly event in the series. 10, 11 and 12 all have a final goodbye with River Song.
"I'm a time traveler. I point and laugh at archaeologists."
I love that line!!!
Reference to Toby Zed, the dude who got possessed by The Beast.
It took me awhile to warm up to River Song. She's one of my favorite characters now that I'm rewatching the series. Though I do still think that they should have had her show up at least one more time during Tennet's reign as the Doctor, just so it would make sense that it takes her a moment to realize that she's never seen the Doctor when he was that young before. As it is right now, she's only really interacted with him as the 11th (and 12th does not count, given that that story is hinged on her not recognizing that form), so it should have been obvious that he was younger than she's ever known him.
In series 5 it's implied that she did meet the Tenth Doctor at least one more time after the Library
They meet in the audio adventures (10 and river) and i think its quite possible that she ran into 14 at some point and mistook him for 10
@@Tan-whippie I mean, that’s nice. But personally I think it’s kind of bad story telling if you need to turn to a different media in order for a story to make sense-but that’s just me. I know that there are a lot of shows that do tie ins with books and comics and video games and more, but I just never warmed up to that trend,
River-Hellooo sweetiee😘
Doctor-Get Out😑
Me-LOLOLOLOLOL
Doctor-If you understand,look very very scared
People-serious/scared faces
River-😀
Dark PurpleWave I remember when I first watch this episode I thought the following; "IS SHE SUICIDAL?"
I love how the doctors first words to river are “get out” and she’s like “hell nah! Who dya mistake me for?!”
Nobody's gonna comment how the Doctor checked River Song out at 2:51? You sneaky Doctor you 😅
I swear she does the same at 2:56 😂
Ekki W They are both perverted
They're married after all. No, before all?? I'm confused again.
@@alexht.9382
Dont worry it hurts my brain too.
I thought it was more like a, "who tf is this bitch" kinda look
One of the saddest episodes of Who and we didn’t even know it yet
There's nothing irrational about fearing the dark. The dark contains the unknown and the unknown contains the potential for danger. Therefore, being wary of the dark means being wary of _danger._ It's one of the most rational, instinctive reactions in _existence._
lazyperfectionist1 and because of that evolutionary trait in our judgement we have survived the extinction level threat of the Vashta Nerada
On a less philosophical, more biological level, preadators are more often nocturnal. The night is their domain, and in the dark you'll never see them coming. If you stay in the light, you stay alive
never apply logic to who
I hate a smart arse. Yes, we fucking know.
@@nightowl8477 Ouch. You don't have to be so rude about it.
I didn't sleep in the dark for 3 years after this episode, that's not an exaggeration.
I can't go to sleep without a light on
Eff you Stephen Moffat!
Watched the episode in the dark and when the reveal happened, I looked around and in my head went oh F---!
Awkward Glasses You mean Fuck you Rusell T. Davies?
Balkancuga no Moffat wrote this episode not RTD
yeah i figured that out after i wrote that comment.
It's weird that River Song has known the 12th Doctor way before we met number 11! XD
Lord Omega he means before we met eleven river had met twelve
And eleven
I should NOT have watched this before going to bed...
Doctor Who Minecraft im watching this before going to bed whats gonna happen
I posted that about 6 months ago.
Also, time zones.
Also, i dont have a bed time. I suffer from somniphobia (fear of sleep) so I usually don'tstart laying in bed until about 2am.
Damn that must suck, I love sleep
Love how the Doctor and Donna are on so good terms that she instantly knew he was going to tear up the contract
this was the last "Hello Sweetie" of River Song being alive
"Im a Time Traveler, I point and laugh at Archeologists."
Love that line
12: You married an android and you didn't even know it
Anita: How do you know there not androids?
River: cuzns I've dated androids and there rubbish. Haha.
jesscarla1 jesscarla1
I didn't realise that one! thank you, You're very good! I bet Moffat is pleased some people notice the details.
Moffat you absolute mad lad!
This was my first doctor who episode ~ I saw it purely by coincidence and LOVED it. The first doctor who line I ever heard? "Hello sweetie"
lucky lucky girl -
There should have been more episodes with 10 and River! Don't get me wrong 11 and River flirting was great but he wasn't sexual the way 10 was.
Exactly, Miss. I love the flirting but I miss the "Oh Doctor, you're looking so makey-outey."
This is how you do horror. Make it ubiquitous, never show it, imply that it will eat you. They’re everywhere, you can’t see them, you will die. I forget how genuinely terrifying Doctor Who used to be when it was good!
Doctor Who "I'm a time traveler,I point and laugh at archaeologists."Best line EVER.
He says to the time travelling archaeologist
When you watch this in the dark
NuclearOnion Most likely result for me; scream even more than I do while watching a deep sea documentary.
Lawrence Gist lol ^_^
How to become skeltal:
Step 1: turn off the lights
Step 2: u r skeltal
U should watch the weeping angels in the dark
River Song: "Whatever came here is long dead."
Doctor: "Bet your life?"
River Song: "Always."
*The Vashta Nerada are not dead and River Song dies at the end of the arc.*
Turns out she lost the bet and held up on her end of the bet.
10th doctor is the last doctor she sees before she dies
No the last was 11.
+Bram Cageling she dies in Forest of the dead so Ten would've been the last Doctor she ever saw though??
+FictionalLives technically she saw 11th doctor when he was at his grave after her mind was stored in the archive thingy, then they kissed and she faded away
+Panda mania Oh, I completely forgot about that, but that was after she died though?? So ten would've still been the last Doctor she saw before her death, right??
yes
1:44 She's like "My god, he's insane, and I love it"
Rewatching after knowing rivers whole story is interesting as you notice small things she does and I love it
“bet your life”
“always”
i’m gonna cry
The Doctor's first words to River, his future wife, was "Get out". 😱😭
"I'm a time traveler. I point and laugh at archaeologists."
Tell your grandkids you were in the library and lived, they won't believe you
Ah, Tennant was so good
Doctor Who comes up with this universe spanning mythology that explains so much about human culture and history... AND NEVER FRIGGIN' USES IT AGAIN!
If David tennant is cast as the 14th doctor it makes sense why River recognised the tenth thinking its the 14th, potential for River to come back for 60th as well.
OMG
I have watched this a bazillion times but I still cant over how River is looking at Doctor like "my god I love this crazy ranty guy!"
First time watching this: lol that’s hilarious
Every time after: MY HEART IS BROKEN!!!!! 😭😭😭
You know what hurts? This is Rivers death and we didn't know her now, just like the Doctor, she's no one very important now and then we got to know her and love her and it hurts because we know that she dies here in the library. We know how her story ends we just didn't know how much we would love her until later
I feel as though I waa neglecting her back then 😭
OMG the amount of care put into River is amazing
Real Question: Can Vashta Nerada devour a Weeping Angel?
Vashta Nerada only consume living matter. In the presence of Vashta Nerada, a Weeping Angel would quantum lock because the Vashta Nerada would be "looking" at it. Since the Weeping Angel would, thus, be inanimate stone, the Vashta Nerada would ignore it.
bellesogne Vashta Nerada don't have eyes. How would a Weeping Angel know to quantum lock
Unfortunately, the more we know about the angels the less consistent their lore is. And the less scary they are. So it's hard to know
I love how Donna knew to tear the contract in perfect sync with The Doctor.
"I've dated androids. They are rubbish." This rings more funny with time.
These two episodes and all the things River does (the diary, the "Hello Sweetie," etc.) make so much more sense when you go back to rewatch after seeing all the other River episodes.
But it also makes it so much sadder.
At this point in the show, it almost seemed like she would just be a one-off character like Jenny or Astrid. But you can definitely tell looking back that Steven Moffat had River's entire storyline planned out for a long time.
Just came here after watching Husbands of River Song. How long was Stephen Moffat planning River’s timeline?!?! That last night on Darillium makes Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead so much sadder.
By this point Moffat was going to be showrunner, and he knew it. So River's notebook in this episode actually had all of River's timeline written in there. He had it planned since this before this episode, because he knew he'd be able to expand on it in his era.
After I saw this episode I went back and watched the whole damn show again, I was sure she had been on before. It was a thrill for me to see her pop up I've had a huge crush on her since ER.
The Doctor: "Almost every species in the universe has an irrational fear of the dark. But they're wrong, because it's not irrational. It's Vashta Nerada."
Me: Well thanks for that I'm never going to be able to sleep again.
2:09 One of the freakiest shots I've EVER seen.
The Doctor is the only one in the room who understands how much danger they're in at this point, and I think the lack of music and sound shows how nonchalantly the crew members are behaving.The buzzing sound of the lights that SHOULD be working also freaks me the fk out.
You can't see anything in this shot, it's probably infested with Vashta already. "Seal up this door, we'll find another way out", the Doctor isn't wasting any time to sacrifice an exit - when he's terrified, I am. The urgency in his voice gives me the chills.
Every single time I watch this episode and the part where the Doctor throws the chicken in the dark it makes me hungry. Brb going to get some chicken.
I bursted out laughing when I first saw this, because I made a mistake a skipped this episode.
So a while back I watched it but when she came up to him like "Hello Sweetie :)" and he instantly is like
"Get out" I was like darn :DDDD
You are a Lucky One...
River seems rather amused, considering this was the moment she feared the most.
Steven Moffat’s creepy writing is at its best in this episode
Whenever I see dust in sunbeams, I always think they're Vashta Nerada!!
Andrew Wells How has no one else picked up on that in 12 months?! That's bloody brilliant! Maybe dust is another lie we tell ourselves hehe. You could also see dust as a Chinese whispers watering of Vashtu Narada. what's in the dark? Vashtu Narada, what's that? Dashtu Nada in the dark, Dusta, nothing in the dark, dust. Or I'm just a madman, without a box :-D
I'm a time traveler. I point and laugh at arckiologist!
BEST LINE EVER!
you mean, archaeologists?
This hurts my heart...
2:26 LOL i love and hate this, its amazing how they both had theexact same reaction, but also kinda sad because ms, evangelista is just doin her best. lol
River: Hello Sweetie
10th Doctor: Get out
😂
I swear a microphone got in the shot at 0:30
Alex Kingston really blew these episodes out of the park with her acting. She did such a good job of playing someone who had known the Doctor for years and years, despite this being her first time on the series.
When we watch this now - knowing what River becomes to (and with) The Doctor - his completely nothing response to her greeting of "Hello, Sweetie" is 100x more heartbreaking ...
Melody Pond
Seeing the Christmas Special where they end in Darilliam makes this episode so much sadder.
In "The Husbands Of River Song", River stated that that night (24 years)was supposedly their last night together. However in this episode she calls for The Doctor on his psychic paper I'm guessing hoping for Matt Smith's Doctor but gets Tennant's as the message goes wrong!!
ME first watching THIS: who is this?! She certainly know the Doctor
the ending-THIS is someone that knows him!
NOW-😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥 WHY?! Deja Vu for her, now she knows how he felt!
the ending-(imaging the Husband's of River Song)😥😥😥😥😥😥
Watching this again, you notice little things, like the expressions that River is making😢
''Cause I've dated androids. Their rubbish''- I just realized that she was talking about HYDROFLAX
She told her father (Rory) that she always knew this day would come, the day the Doctor has no idea who she is, when he technically meets her for the first time. But she knew this was the Doctor because in the Husbands of River Song she had a list of all his faces, she just didn’t know how many doctors knew her.
The best Doctor. Love him.
River Song, best companion of the Doctor
"I am a time traveler, I point and laugh at archaeologists"
Doctors famous sass
I. FUCKIN. LOVE. HOW. SHE. KNOWS. ALL. ALONG. AND. SHE. PLAYED. IT. OFF. THE. WHOLE. TIME.
Hello sweetie, heading this again in 2023 knowing who she is and will become is awesome
The way the doctor talks about archaeologists is too funny, his reaction is perfect😂😂😂
I'm an archaeologist and I NEED this on a t-shirt:)
Saddest episode with River song.
JCstock especially after seeing their "honeymoon" on Darilliam :-(
2:15 - "err...I'm Mr Lux's personal... everything" Great line! lol
A little hint of prince charming from OUAT at the beginning 😂😂
I point and laugh at archeologists 😂
Me remembering first watching this and for a week I would constantly avoid touching shadows or the dark XD
I can see how for the first few minutes River still thought he knew her, reminds me a lot of the banter 11 had trying to play dumb.
Though I have to say, the way 10 said he was a time traveller at 1:10 so non nonchalantly did make it seem like he knew her.
I recently rewatched this episode. After seeing everything River and the Doctor did together, it was so heartbreaking to see that look on River's face when he didn't know who she was
After knowing her timeline, this episode confused me.
Throughout the episode River is trying to figure out if the Doctor knows who she is. In the husbands of river song, we see that river knows all of Doctor's faces therefore his timeline so she must have known that this regeneration hasn't met her yet. So that got me thinking, has river met the 10th Doctor before the library?Sure she might have seen him and not interfere or she might steal his tardis while he was away but she expects him to know her. She's surprised when he doesn't recognise her. Has anyone got an explanation for this, am I missing something?
Elif Nur Bulut I hope they find a way to explain this, but I'm guessing something happened off screen
Well, she doesn't know if they've met before in 10's timeline. She might, in her future. She doesn't know it's the last time they meet in her timeline.
Tenth was scheduled to have another episode with River Song, that's why Tennant's face in in her diary prior to her meeting him here. So yeah, she has met him before (according to her own timeline) but we never got to see it happen. That would be after the library in the doctor's timeline, and before the library in River's timeline.
Hope this helps 😁
She has met him one other time from her point of view, they just never showed it.
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