Black Mirror Season 4 interview: Alastair Campbell vs Charlie Brooker | British GQ
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Across three incredible series, Black Mirror's paranoiac-in-chief Charlie Brooker reflected society's real living nightmares. Ahead of his fourth anthology of dark satirical dystopias in Black Mirror season four, he reveals what keeps him awake at night
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Black Mirror Season 4 interview: Alastair Campbell vs Charlie Brooker | British GQ
Every time I hear Charlie Brooker speak I just want to be his mate. Imagine the conversations down the pub! Top bloke.
Alice Read Charlie Brooker is so lush
Well...okay haha
I once bought a playstation game off Charlie Brooker in the original CEX shop just off Goodge Street, in about 1994
That's brilliant.
ChubbyChecker182 what was the game?
did the game trap you in a dystopian future prison forever :D?
That’s too random to be not true 😂
can't believe charlie broker was one of the founders of CEX and it was really about the games only when it started. They certainly understood the games 2nd market was going to be massive.
Campbell seems unable to comprehend that a person can have an original idea simply by being talented and creative
Isn't that great, two people from opposite intellectual backgrounds having a conversation? I'm so sick of artistic people interviewing each other getting bogged down into the processes of being creative.
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Who the f**k watched black mirror at 6am in the morning???? Alister Campbell. That’s who.
For anyone who hasn't seen USS Callister yet, thanks to Campbell there's a ton of spoilers in this interview (not just at the beginning).
thanks for the warning mate
This is the weirdest episode of Black Mirror I’ve seen. The one where a former spin doctor goes from denying war crimes to interviewing a celebrity.
war crimes such as???
Cmon do you really know what yu're talking about, or are you just coping what other people say sometimes.
Saddam was a bloody great guy and anyone who disagrees is a racist warmonger.
Anybody else here because of WTF this happened?
Haha!
@@jimmy2k4o attacking and obliterating an entire country based on lies.
Charlie Brooker trapped me in the RUclips comment section somebody save me he has my digital conscience ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
Consciousness*
You're dead to me.
Haha funny joke about being trapped my dude, I'm giving it a like!
I've come to get you.
Robin Mcewen interesting, care to elaborate?
I love watching someone who thinks they are educated getting talked down too by a real genius. Love you charlie you are all the acid fueld conversations with my friends brought too life and im very thankfull. See you in the cloud maybe.
That interview was so brilliant. Something I didn't know I needed. Thank you!!
Alastair is a brilliant interviewer. He listens keenly, but also makes sure the flow of conversation keeps moving by prompting.
just watched all 6 episodes- hard to describe how fooking amazing/brilliant it is
Paul Marsland It really isn't. Compare them to White Bear, White Christmas and Shut up and Dance. Game over. Pun intended. Callister was spot on. The rest I could live without. They weren't vile enough. They didn't sicken me. And that's why they're inferior.
Which was your favourite?
black museum is a contender to white Christmas as my all time favourite amongst favourites! loved all the other episodes as well though Callister is right up there too as one of the best episodes ever.
Crocodile really didn't sicken you? And the first story in Black Museum?
Drew Layton That's a pretty silly standard to judge them on,especially when a)that's not the point of Black Mirror. b) going to the darkest,edgier endings for the sake of it is pointless if it doesn't fit within the narrative of the episodes,which it wouldn't have for the majority of this season.
So, Alistair Campbell binges on Black Mirror, with all its many themes and implicit philosophical questions about technology and humanity's relationship with his own creation...
...but then laser focuses in on the one that involves genitalia.
And pig f***ing. He seemed very interested in that.
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That song that's featured in 3 or 4 shows - "oh, but anyone who knows what love is . . ." - it's great, I love the way it runs through the BM universe.
Maybe Charlie Brooker should write an episode about an arrogant, egocentric bully who does PR for a war criminal? But, and here is the funny bit, this known liar and bully is not arrested; he is not disgraced; he is not even criticised for his part in a travesty that has cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Instead, the guy is embraced and loved by the liberal glitterati and gets a job as an interviewer for a popular magazine
If he upsets you, then he's doing the right thing
MyPathogen
Who? Charlie Brooker or the Campbell creature?
Mate he is definitely not loved by liberals. Nobody likes this tosshead - the Iraq war was a betrayal to everyone labour or conservative.
tuscanyiscol
I would like to believe you... but why is Campbell doing this interview? It seems to me that Campbell is not as unloved as we would like to believe. And I am surprised at someone as clever as Charlie Brooker wanting to be interviewed by a war criminal's spin doctor
Campbell tries to pin him down on politics but Charlie kind of avoids it.
Black Mirror has the most sympathetic serial killers and psychopaths on TV
Despite the awful interview technique from Campbell, Brooker still shines through and says some invaluable things - really enjoyed.
I only just found out Charlie Brooker created black mirror and I am so amazed and proud. I love this man his tv news wipes is amazing. He is a visionary and a satirist. He always reminded me of the next Charles Dickens. In disguise he criticises and discusses things such as politics power and inequality. I have a lot of respect for this man he never gets the appreciation he deserves. I hope he will become Britain’s next best director. amazing intelligent brilliant wit !!!
Alastair Campbell "I've been gorging"Charlie Broker (sarcastically "I think that's the phrase"
"The only thing that stops me being the sort of person who's a doomsday prepper, is I'm lazy."
That's really, genuinely inspiring and reassuring. This guy is my hero. Him and George Carlin.
Odd to see him talking about doing 2017 wipe when it never ended up happening.
he was talking about 2016
He pulled it last minute according to his Twitter and these interviews aren't filmed the day they're released, do the maths.
Watch the first episode of Series 4 of _Black Mirror_ before you hear Alastair Campbell's clumsy spoilers in this otherwise fascinating interview.
...or skip to 1:10 as the description suggests.
Anyway, none of this matters we're all just sentient code propping up Donald Trump's singular delusion in which he's president.
So is Alistair Campbell pretending be the normal everyman now?
Would you rather he was still the scurrilous pantomime villain of politics?
No... just having successfully quit his breathing addiction.
Well, that certainly seems like a measured approach to a spin doctor who worked for a past government, abandoned politics and has attempted to change his life and public persona.
I don't think it's helpful to scape-goat some PR man from the past for something entire governments were responsible for. Innocent people were being blown up in their homes in the middle east long before New Labour came along.
Our government continues to sell arms to countries responsible for human rights cotraventions.
Pick a bigger battle than hating Campbell, is all i'm suggesting.
He's been 'gorging' thriller/horror anthologies at 6am
What's more normal than that!?
@@satansgenitalia word.
Brooker will forever be the guy writing the hilarious "Sick Notes" letter responses in the back of PC Zone for me - quite strange to see him so much in the spotlight.
Charlie Brooker interviews Adam Curtis next please!
Don't mention the war!
Hardly “vs” is it? “vs” suggest a debate. This was just a conversation
Or already-knew winner or loser match before it was started haha
What has Vis got to do with this?
interesting to hear brooker's method for getting to sleep. i use an similar method to quiet my mind to get through insomnia. i stick on something like a dawkins or hitchens interview and exactly as he says its just interesting and loud enough to vaguely hold my attention - but only just - and it quiets all the "paranoid thoughts" he talks about. recommend it highly. this interview will probably send me to sleep tonight - lower the volume, dim the screen and in under 10 mins i'll be out.
As much as I love Charlie and black mirror, I can't listen to Campbell for an hour.
I hear you
I was thinking the same. It's like listening to a favourite song that has been edited with the sound of nails of a chalkboard every few seconds.
Ted. !!!! Almost word for word what I scrolled down to write. I was going to say "for more than 10 seconds", but other than that, verbatim.
yep..what an arse
Charlie's mouth is unstoppable tho 😁
You should have put the spoiler warning actually in the video not the description!
Alastair Campbell is not the correct choice for an interview
I hear you
i disagree somewhat - i hated campbell when he was part of blair's gang, but i thought he did ok in this interview. that said there are many who could have done it better.
Brooker has changed so much since he started Newswipe on BBC Four in 2009.
thats what they were saying in 2009. "Brooker has changed so much since Nathan Barley!", then in 2005 "He's changed so much since TV Go home!", then in 2000 "He's changed so much since PC Zone!" then in 1996 "He's changed so much since Oink!"
And now he doesn't even have time for 2017 Wipe which was cancelled :(
To me, he will always be the thinking man's Harry Hill
Changed since he wrote 'TV Go Home' in 1999
Yeah, Brooker has changed a lot since he was the teenage kid sending cartoons in to Crash magazine in the mid-1980s. He should totally go back to poking gentle fun at UK-centric 8-bit microcomputer format rivalries using the medium of hand-drawn cartoons.
So much hate for poor Alastair here. Don’t worry, Alastair, everybody else may hate you but I can see you’re an alright sort of bloke!
When did Alastair Campbell become a lay-psychoanalyst?
Probably the same time YT 20-something commenters became international lawyers.
jimmy2k4o xD
I'm getting the impression that Charlie Brooker doing an interview with Alistair Campbell of all people could itself be drawn from one of his Black Mirror episodes. But maybe that's just me....
I wish Campbell would just let Charlie finish a thought instead of always interrupting him...
coming late to this interview but it's cracking ! Thanks
“The gulf between fantasy and reality ~ which one is a nightmare?” Charlie Brooker.
why Alistair Campbell for the interview? There's so many others who could do the same or better
He works for GQ now.
Honestly he’s very good and has worked for GQ for many years as their interviewer, look up the interview he did with Prince William regarding mental health
I didn't know he worked for GQ until now, but going by this video he's a good interviewer.
He's terrible, interrupting and talking over his guest. couldn't watch more 15mins, as for GQ, tabloid rubbish!
Somebody’s gotta rehabilitate these war criminals once they never got locked up the in the first place.
' nightshade' is a plant that grows wild in lots of the world. American pokeberry is a much bigger Bush than the English nightshade and the wild belladonna (which is pale lilac berry) which renaissance Italian ladies used to use to white their irises. The practice was discontinued about the same time as the lead face paint was dropped by clowns during the Victorian era,because it's poisonous.
Anyway pokeberry was used during the American revolution against the English. The superstition is that the pokeberry occurs like Martin Luther's protestant uprising against paedophilia in the catholic church, since the English would not eat pokeberry letters, for fear of the poison.
In english-germanic superstition nightshade is a bad little fairy who lures people into commiting suicide somewhere between 'Venus in furs' by lou reed and 'bring me to life' by Evanescence . People still do have badman contests with pokeberry sallet but I reckon blackcurrants are much yummier
jesus what a terrible terrible interview technique Alistair interrupts Charlie so much and does not let him finish interesting points only to ask TERRIBLE questions! so dissapointing.
9:30 Campbell gets confused about what Brooker means by a "superpower"
Yea...feel that way too
@@maybepumpkins 😁😁😁
Charlie Brooker gives me hope for British creative media
Born around the same time as Brooker and had the same cold war fears. Not a day passed when a Nuclear holocaust was discussed. Interesting how his fears have influenced his writing.
I would have watched this but I can’t stomach Alistair Campbell
Oh my what a funny interview methodology
I loved that as well as being a loving parody of Star Trek, USS Callister had two particular Star Trek episodes at its core. Hollow Pursuits and Charlie X and managed to merge such completely different premises brilliantly. I just would like to know the answer to the question I was left with. Does Daly have any idea that the characters in his simulation have consciousness or feelings or does he believe they are just mindless simulations for him to interact with like NPCs in a video game? The answer to that determines how much sympathy I am supposed to feel for him.
saxbend Considering that he tortured their children to force them into compliance, I would say that he us well aware that simulations are conscious. It would be an interesting Black Mirror episode though to explore people not realizing that simulations have consciousness or, even more interesting, AIs not having consciousness, but being able to pretend to have human emotions and consciousness because they find it's an effective way to accomplish their programmed goals.
Joe Ch I did consider that, but then it comes down to phenomenology. You can interpret the characters' responses as mere number crunching in a simulation (albeit one with a lot of depth). Or you can see them as real people with their own conscious minds ticking away behind their virtual forms. We as the audience get the privilege of seeing them interact with each other and express thoughts and emotions for themselves without Daly observing them, but Daly does not see this, so he can plausibly see it either way. Also given that he managed to extrapolate the characters' memories from their DNA we have to accept that anything at all is possible, hence my difficulty deciding whether Daly saw them as conscious or not.
I don't want to be a killjoy, but I didn't think it worked well at all. I think the Star Trek episode it is closest to is The Squire of Gothos, when a God-like being toys with the crew for his own childish amusements. My biggest problem with this episode (and almost all Black Mirror episodes) is Brooker can't write human beings. In Squire of Gothos, Trelane torments the crew because he is a child and doesn't know any better. In Charlie X, Charlie went mad from being alone for so long. In Callister a shy man inflicts terrible cruelty on sentient programs that most people wouldn't inflict on scripted NPCs. I could buy it if Daly created a program to live out his sadistic fantasies, but he's not. Daly is living out his Star Trek fantasy where he's the hero, and I cannot accept any person who sees themselves as a gallant hero that also casually torture people to get his kicks. And it's not just that Daly just disregards their humanity, because he wouldn't pursuit revenge against something he figured was only a program. I think this failure to understand people really drags this show down.
People aren't always consistent. I don't agree with you at all Devil Jam. Maybe you just haven't known a wide variety of people. I've known some pretty horrible people who somehow manage to completely disconnect themselves from whatever horrible things they've done. Not everyone can do it, but the worst people seem to be able to somehow.
Devil Jam
Couldn't it be the case, though, that we sane people (hi, fellow non-looneys!) simply can't fathom profoundly damaged individuals like Daly? We can't imagine him because we're incapable of doing so. He has no motive - maybe the scariest motive of all. Spite mutated into monstrous proportions.
USS Callister gave me an existential crisis
alastair campbell is not a good interviewer
I didn't think he was that bad, he asked some interesting questions that let Brooker frame them in his own catastrophising manner. He was, however, a little bit terse.
Lincoln Stinbishify he's not a good person anyway
Gg Ff no, you're right he isn't, but fortunately it isn't about campbell
thestranger11 I know I enjoyed broiler anyway wish he did more of his wipe stuff though I prefer it tbh
Yeah. Wasted opportunity.
I can relate to thinking of the worst possible scenario. It may not be my first response but given time and boredom, it'll come to mind. On the bright side, you're never disappointed.
So frustrating hearing Alistair cut Charlie Brooker off again and again
He has no idea how much I actually admire him
"When a flawed human being has immense power" while staring at a war criminal
great interview!
"Are there weird people in there bedrooms?"
Alright Ali.
somebody please lead this interviewer out into the woods and permanantly lose him
So when is Season 5 coming out???
I use that exact method to fall asleep. It has to be just interesting enough to engage the brain and stop you thinking.
Also avoid 19.10 to 19.50, if you don't want to know details about the first episode of Season 4.
David Tennant did literally just appear in Christopher Eccleston's jacket when he regenerated
I've watched all episodes on my phone...ironic
I can relate to Charlie Brooker's worry about the unexpected such as when he said about he'd be more worried about 99 balloons getting tangled with some nuclear stuff or whatever he said rather than Kim Jong Un vs. Donald Trump because these people are predictable. Now here comes the unexpected one, Mr. Campbell here don't even try to comprehend that thought, which is clearly unexpectedly disturbing as a human given with emotions and freewill. Probably this is what interviewers should be but great interview as it was flowing, Mr. Brooker had so much to elaborate.
_WHITE LAURENCE FISHBURN vs SLIMEY PRINCIPAL SKINNER_
Am I the only one that thinks he looks like Andy Serkis?
Yesssss, he's back! Love Brooker
14:10 this describes my life and I'm not "very middle aged" I'm 25
Very passionate man is Charlie Brooker
Top cat as an ironic jingle 😂😂😂 George Galloway. Hahah I love Galloway. And I love Brooker. Brilliant minds. I wish Brooker could get his radio show too and converse with Galloway. Amazing haha
I feel like every interview with everyone should be the question "what was your last dream"
Why? It didn't provide an interesting answer in this case the same way it has never provided an interesting conversation ever.
I feel like 'any' interview should not include Alistair. What a....?
Interviewer jumps quickly to the next question
WMD.........? 45mins til we get blown up....? Dossier based on a student's thesis...? Hmm..? This man should *never* be allowed to forget.
Charlie Brooker, you carry on. Great stuff.
Nope . Brooker has revealed his true hand. He should never have done this interview on principle, its not like he needs to do it.
Bollox, sorry.
Dan H can you expand on that?
I disagree that being interviews by Alastair Campbell is Brooker showing his true hand and we must despise him forever more. He handles Campbell very well actually, and avoids being fully pinned down on politics. despite his efforts to do that.
Sadly I think a lot of people go about their day not looking at the world through the prism of politics, and he actually says in the interview he's not a particularly political person. Make of that what you will about him but the worst I could say about him is that he's complacent. I don't think that by doing this interview with Campbell (which I think is pretty good, but Brooker could probably talk in an interesting way to a lampost) he's nailing his colours to any mast politically. I just find it appalling that Campbell has got away with it, as anyone who does follow politics and knows the facts about what happened back then knows, and swans around doing things like this as if he hasn't got blood on his hands. Ugh.
Imagine chris morris just showed up in black mirror
He and Brooker had an idea that was based off Nathan Barley.
But I’ve always had the idea of him writing or directing an episode.
Do you worry about Omnics? I believe major countries (the US, Russia, China, and more) have already start to develop similar things.
Love you Mr. Brooker!!! (Even if you never respond to my tweets) 😣 .. 😀
charlie brooker is my spirit animal.
What if Charlie Brooker associated with Christopher Nolan for a movie.
Terrible idea
Alistair Campbell is a deeply odious character
Stuart Caughlin love this comment
I fall asleep the exact same way
Alistair Campbell is clearly out of his depth when discussing technology.
When was this shot do you know?
The problem is technology is evolving too fast and our consciousness for the most part not really or very slow most people are entagled in an endless web of social conditioning and unconscious patterns .
If you read some books in your life this would have meaning but for that derp mode paradigm it sounds like a word salad ...
atleast 3 per week, you just read in one selected area while being clueless of every other
Areté
Then go read on some psychology and eastern philosophy.
thenoodleshop that whole comment was pretentious No one cares for your law degree
Nosedive has become reality in China what a visionary !
right. another issue i have to wait for ebay sellers to post. it's not fair only Brits get the best content. anyway. great interview. 10 o'clock live didn't even scratch the surface of the tension.
Alistair Campbell should crawl back under his rock, next to Tony's. I love Brooker, but his chummy acceptance of Campbell disappoints me.
- "...Even though that might damage us...as people, right?"
- "Well... that's ultimately where we end up.. ehm..."
- "Brexit"
Alastair seems like he is not taking Charlie seriously . Just the tone of Alastair's voice, seems like he is not taking Charlie seriously !
Yaser Masood I am not surprised here because Campbell is a war monger and part creator of isis
Love CB but can't watch AC. Shame.
Charlie Brooker listening to Pilkyboys before he goes to sleep on podcast - that's where he got all his ideas!
Charlie floats my submarine.
i cant stand this interviewer who interupt the master every 2 seconds. wasted opportunity to dive into charlie's mind deeper.
It's also a war criminal, if that helps you at all?
war crimes such as???
Cmon do you really know what yu're talking about, or are you just coping what other people say sometimes.....trying to make people think you're some self taught expert on international law, the Iraq war, UN resolution 1441.
Charlie needs to meditate hahah
Louis Dickinson no way! Brooker even admits in the interview his anxiety and paranoia predisposes his creative genius !
I’m in love. X ❤ what a right Charlie! 🥰
wot if your windows had wifi
I finished Season 4 last night & honestly I haven't really enjoyed the show as much since it was on Channel 4 although White Christmas was good and that wasn't exclusively for channel 4. It's fine but it's just not quite as good as it was to me. Ah well...
I had no idea that the series had come out when I clicked on this. I thought it was a discussion about what's going to be in it. Very confusing first minute for me...
Fantastic hair game.
Somebody please provide correct sized cushions for the chairs or correct sized chairs for the cushions. Thank you
"I think that's the phrase..."
11th November 2019, and irony of this video talking about Brexit, Boris, Rees Smug etc.......
Campbell interrupted an awful lot at the beginning. Please just let the man talk! We're here for Charlie's perspective on his work, not your simplistic grasp of it.
Okay, but i dont care about them, I care about the episode.
Great story teller, but more a worrier than a thinker. Interesting dude.
Being a worrier IS being a thinker. Believe me.
Try 2g of beta alanine to up the GABA effect! I just meant he's more imaginative than analytical. But his plotting is sublime.
And to think Alastair Campbell had such influence in British politics. He is so out of touch with everyone and everything.
"When we're coming up with ideas for the show..something will occur to me."- is that about the time you finish reading 2000AD and decide to rip it off?
Fletcher could u elaborate?
Sure. 2000AD is a British comic anthology; you can see Brooker reference it openly in his early work and try to pass much of its content off as his own in later half of his career (about the time he married a celebrity and cashed in everything he used to believe in), including on 'Have i got News for you' when he tries to pass off "funt" as his own creation. 2000AD does a series called 'future shocks' which acts as an entry point for new writers. You can read the guidelines for it here (2000ad.com/submissions/)- its the same structure and if you read through past examples you'll find more than a few familiar stories. None of which amounts to a capital offence; its really just a churlish quip in the spirit of the 'Sick Notes' column he used to write for PC Zone.
thx for answering. i'll take brooker going sellout as a point (he described george bush as having blood on his hands 10 years ago but is fine w/ talking to alastair campbell) and he definitely reuses a lot of his own material so i'll accept him being lazy but idk about the hignfy thing. i'll take a look at the scripts in a minute though