It would be interesting if it turned out that the storm Dragon created was not a devil fruit but an example of what conqueror's haki at its peak of mastering can do
Having a strong enough conqueror's haki to change the weather is pretty interesting since the same could be for Imu when Lulusia Kingdom was destroyed by the lasers because it could be the very willpower of Imu alone creating energy or by boosting the ancient weapon.
@@therewasoldcringe last time I heard about the kingdom it had a girl named Moda and for some reason a certain government felt fear of what this kingdom could become.
19:45 Honestly, based on the unfinished version of haki we see in Alabasta with Zoro vs Mr 1, when he is able to find the swords by feeling their "breath," similar to CoO, and to cut through steel by feeling the "breath" of steel, similar to CoA, and they were both the same ability for Zoro, I always thought of haki as the one haki, one single pool, and you channel it however you see fit/are capable of. You can channel it as a physical enhancement (Armament, increases physical resilience/hardness), as a mental enhancement (Observation, increases perception/intuition) or perhaps you can even force it onto others, forcibly imposing your will on them (Conqueror's), and it can be voluntarily (coating yourself in CoA, for example), accidental (Luffy's outbursts of CoC before the TS, Koby awakening CoO at Marineford) or permanent (Otohime feeling everyone's emotions; Luffy, Zoro and Sanij "detecting" Caribou at Fishman Island; Aisa's Mantra)
Makes sense. I strongly believe original Haki users (or a singular user) created Devil Fruits, connecting back with how Devil Fruits were created by the "Sea Devil" (which is probably just the first Pirate) and their descendants were called the "Will of the Devil" or Will of D as it became known as.
Haki, Devil Fruits and Lineage Factors. They're probably all connected and that connection will be what's revealed here. I can't wait. Post-wano hitting different
Everyone talks about lineage factor like it's just DNA. I'm guessing it's similar but more fantastical, and it will be the key to half the weird stuff we see in the OP world.
Agreed its all but confirmed that devil fruit powers become part of your DNA when you eat one since Vegapunk could use Kaidos blood to clone the fruit .
it actually reminds me of Aizen's statement in bleach, where in a battle of soul reapers is a battle of spiritual pressure. If your overall reiatsu is stronger than the other guy's, then all of their hax abilities and sht are just useless against you;
These discussions have had me thinking about Blackbeard's powers recently..... Its been shown to negate other fruit powers. What if the real power behind the darkness is absolute negation. Like, the limitations of the person have been negated, which is why he can handle multiple devil fruits. Why he seemingly get whatever he wants. He's able to manipulate the ability to negate anything and everything.
This is what makes Shanks so dangerous even with out a devil fruit power. He suppressed green bull's power and turned him back to a human even at a distance. That along with being one of the strongest swordsmen in one-piece puts him on same level as admirals.
Three types of Haki, three types of devil fruits, three different ancient weapons, three big active factions, three sword style... Tekking is onto something with this trifecta thing, Zoro is also onto something...
Three heads on BB's jolly roger Three scars on Shanks face Three sections on the clima tact Three on Galdino's head Three little pigs About three fiddy
I could see Tekking being on to something with Im. We've seen Devil Fruit users like Luffy use his Haki to improve the use of his fruit. But how often are we seeing a fruit amplify haki? Im may simply have a kind of King-King fruit that generates a kind of feedback loop and let's them emit extreme amounts of conquerer haki that no normal person would dare challenge.
Only example i could think of is Enel. His lightning logia was able to enhance his observation haki and give it more range. You could say that Diamond Jozu having the diamond fruit could enhance his armament haki too I guess
I think haki being used to bolster a fruits power is all but confirmed. And when we finally see Kuzan Kizaru and Akainu fight they'll enhance their elemental powers with haki
Haki is willpower so I think it really has to do with creativity and self-belief to attempt to shape reality which is peak with Conq and could be infused with DF somehow like a technique. I'm thinking Sanji's abilities are key here to showcase people can develop abilities without DFs, like Fishman Karate, Sabo's Dragon Claw style, Okama Kenpo, etc. Lots of possibilities and opportunities for characters to power up.
I was thinking that if imu had the water water fruit. That to anyone else it would essentially kill them as that’s the devils fruit only weakness (water/liquid), but since imus conquerors haki is so strong that he is actually able to nullify that and essentially be unstoppable.
I viewed haki as "exerting one's soul" and by extension reassert their self, in a sense. So when someone uses armament and touches someone else they assert their self onto them, and for logia types this means they become tangible, or they can coat their weapons in haki by making their weapons an extension of themselves momentarily. So the reason that haki "nullifies" devil fruit abilities is actually that haki reinforces the soul/self and pushes out the influences of other souls, like the ongoing effects of devil fruits.
My personal belief is that how well haki can negate DF is dependent on how strong the haki is how strong the ability is. Also the relativity between the opponents. Example, Big Mom is powerful but even she would have trouble countering two Awakenings. Even before it, Law and Kid were able to combat her. Also it takes conscious effort to nullify the ability.
It really got better with time i think. Early Marineford/ fish man island was quite irritating but it really grew on me. Wano did a great job in solidifying haki into a great system
Maybe doc Q infected the cannon balls being shot into the Polar Tang. That would make more sense as once one of those are in the Sub then it would start to infest anyone hit by it or near it.
That makes alot of sense. I thought that Doc Q infected the cannonballs or bullets and Van Auger teleported them to the sub marine lol that would be a crazy combination
@@thetruth997_ I think one of the panels shows the BB shop shooting at the Polar Tang, more than likely was Van Auger shooting the cannon balls. Maybe a combination of observation Haki + his teleporting fruit could let him move around objects that he can't initially see.
I like to think of haki and devil fruits working as the saving throw system in DnD. For example, in this chapter, Doc Q used an ability with a constitution saving throw based on his haki/df and law was able to resist because he "succeeded on the save", as in, he has enough haki to resist.
Basically Oda needed a way to explain how DFs with insta win abilities can exist alongside characters that are regarded in universe as near invincible. Why was Doffy so scared of Kaido, even though he could presumably rely on sneaking Sugar in close to turn him into a toy if he showed up? Kaido's haki makes him resist the toy transformation. Why can't Law just teleport Big Mom into the sea? Her haki means he can't move her against her will. And now we see that Doc Q can't just infect anyone he wants with a deadly disease, because their haki might be strong enough to negate it. I doubt that it just works on literally any df ability, since Law could still attack Big Mom with his other attacks, and Luffy could still turn Kaido into rubber post awakening, but would work on fruit powers that negate narrative tension.
@j r Careful we might be watching that happen right now. It’s going to be really difficult for law to survive this encounter. We know for a fact that Blackbeard does not engage in “fair” fights. He won’t fight a fight he isn’t certain he can win, and he doesn’t allow strong devil fruits to escape him. For law to survive this fight we need either Blackbeard to have massively miscalculated the strength of law, or we need a stronger character to show up, and force Blackbeard to retreat. However what wil not happen is Blackbeard beat law up, and leave him beat up, but alive.
What your forgetting about Pokémon moves is (or possibly you never knew to begin with) that if you use lock on or mind reader before using fissure, guillotine, horn drill etc then the move is a guaranteed hit even if the opposing Pokémon is airborne or underground (providing that the opposing Pokémon doesn't have levitate or whatever the other one is that blocks horn drill, guillotine etc) even if its at a higher level then your Pokémon is.
Both sturdy and wonder guard Iirc. Unfortunately unviable in showdown bc it's basically a free switchout to the opponent. Could be useful in a niche to force out set up sweepers though assuming you can survive 2 hits safely. Edit: now that I think about it, you're also devoting two move slots. And I'm unsure if ghost/flying natural immunities will negate it anyway. Sheer cold seems safest but idk what Pokémon have both lock on and an Ohko move in their move pool.
Law is just gonna switch the hearts of his crew and Blackbeard's then his crew gonna already know to jump into the ocean and drown them while law switches them back
@@thetruth997_ Oda decides who wins Since we are speculating a death match maybe law loses but I don't see either dying, so the question is actually who will get the road poneglyphs and law may have already shambled teach's but it's all speculation But in a logical battle of these Titans not my choice words law could shamble all of Blackbeard crew with fish and gg no re
I have a theory When you get hit by devil fruit such as age age fruit It's not permanent it just takes time for your haki to completely cancel the devil fruit (passively) even if you don't know how to use haki Everyone has it just not as strong And another theory Devil fruit like logia can alter things permanently without needing an awakening you just need to get enough mastery or experiences or training with that fruit to create a powerful enough attack to permanently alter things Awakening just makes them way stronger
I think a good way to imagine it is to think that the One-Piece world is like the Star Wars world and maybe something like the Force exists in the One-Piece world, like everything has a will of their own
Tekking. Now that we have seem Kaido going all out. What you think about Moria's plan of creating a zombie army including Oz to confront Kaido? How bad would Moria and his crew lose?
what if vegapunk have the voice of all things? and he managed to amplify it so he could "hear" the will of the DF and he can "understand" and learn even more about the DF, on top of that it will give us an answer as to why vegapunk left kaido's artificial DF, maybe the DF "told" him to leave him there for a reason, my point is just play with the idea
I'm curious if this will be playing some role in theory about Crocodile that I read some time ago. There are some secrets going on around this character and a lot of it starts adding in some interesting ways. I'm not sure if this will go the way I think will go but him never learning how to use Haki may be a vital part to it.
I'll have to double check but I reread the Impel Down arc and I could've sworn Crocodile mentioned that he could've used haki but claimed he saw no reason to do so against Luffy and others. So you might be right that he's worried about using too much and *ahem* reversing a procedure done long ago. 😅
@@JoseSerrato0420 We know Oda just didn't have the idea fully fleshed out yet no matter how many retcons they try, Croco/Ace/Smoker not having haki at that time made no sense as we kno the world now Ace/Smoker have a fight where neither can touch the other. MF was another huge time we saw that almost everyone there should've been using advanced haki but no1 came close to it, Luffy has the strongest haki showing in MF & he did so by accident
@@marcuswilliams2910 haki was present very early on in the series, maybe it wasn't fleshed out until much later but was definitely hinted at. Rayleigh explained in the timeskip that haki isn't really something that can be taught but something that a person needs to be shown and have them figure it out, and that it's widely learned through firsthand experience. Hence Luffy training for two years on that island. Koby didn't start his training until after he started using haki for the first time. The first portion of the Grandline was relatively easy so no one needed, or could develop their haki to be extremely proficient aside from a few examples. Amazon Lily has tons of haki users as they were a warrior tribe that taught each other. Skypeia had mantra, but that skill was mostly known about but not widespread, but those were single islands that were allowed to grow on their own. Fact is that if you were good at haki you most likely were going to end up in the New World. CP9 were assassins stationed in Paradise, and their targets were often normal politicians. They didn't need haki training and giving them that training would make them more difficult for the government to control. Smoker didn't know haki because he had sea prism weapons and was stationed away from the Grandline, so no reason to learn. Tashigi? You're taught by your superiors. If Smoker didn't know then she couldn't learn. The marines themselves can't really dedicate training it to their recruits because you need an aptitude for it to start training and you don't want to train powerful techniques to new people unless you can tell they're loyal. Lastly, Ace didn't know because he had only been at sea for 2 years and he was way stronger than the average pirate. If battle brings out haki then Ace didn't face enough challenges prior to meeting Whitebeard, and even then he was still strong enough for Paradise.
My head cannon for Dr. Kureha's is that her haki is so amazing she out will's getting older, instead of the general fan consensus of having received the youth surgery.
I think Devil Fruits are the manifestation of dreams, but what good is a dream without will power and the call to action? And that's why Devil Fruits are weak to Haki. Haki is putting your words to action. Devil Fruits aren't an earned, earnest power, but Haki is because you put in the work and determination.
will is bs fma dante was right People can say there is a balance, a logic that everything happens for a reason... But the truth is far less designed. No matter how hard you work, when you die, you die. Some spend their entire life trying to scratch their way to the top, and still die in poverty. While others are born into wealth without ever working at all. It's a cruel and random world. And yet the chaos is all so beautiful. yes chaos is beautiful espacially when your enemies are crying and begging for mercy so hot now i know god form the bible feels.
This video tackles the one thing I really dislike about haki. To me it was much more interesting when there were just many wacky unexplained things in the OP world, rather than having everything explained with one single phenomenon
i like the soil idea because it could be that for weird devil fruits when people die the soil (spirit of haki i guess) absorbs the knowledge of said dead people allowing it to produce new fruits. Who to say all devil fruits were created at once possibly new ones crop up over time
Sawyer made some good points about this topic To expand this discussion, it's been implied since Dressrosa, it's why Law wasn't able to move Doffy, HOWEVER he was able to swap Doffy and Sanji out because he caught them BY SURPRISE That also explains why Sugar can affect the fighters, they were damaged/injured and/or unconscious To go even further we can check some pre-timeskip examples since we learned that Haki HAS ALWAYS EXISTED and it's up to us to see when, where, and how: - Foxy, his beams caught people by surprise because he was a trickster - Momonga resisting Hancock's powers, sure he stabbed himself and through the pain he resisted, but he resisted through SHEER WILLPOWER and we know willpower = haki Other instances of Haki pre-timeskip (not necessarily countering fruits) - Luffy punching Mr3 in Little Garden despite the many clones - Zoro fighting Mr1 - every single logia avoiding attacks with observation at the moment of impact since the enemies also are supposed to be using haki as well
8:14 when law changed the straw hats around Also Law is able to do all of the TTC abilities lol, he can swap genders, he can teleport, he can lift heavy things in his room 21:26 I could see since luffy started combining armament and conquerors haki so just add in ob
This is making it more and more likely to me that it'll be Luffy and Coby vs Blackbeard as a team because of how much devil fruit negation drains you. Thats alot of energy being used just to counter df powers and since Luffy needs haki to attack and sense he won't have enough to fight Blackbeard alone that's where Coby comes in.
I thought this was already established by Doffy? Like when he mentions to Law that Vergo’s haki is to strong for Law to handle, wasn’t he referring to Law’s fruit
Hey tekking! Thanks for all the hard work on all the different content. Just a question, do you think mastering different forms of haki affects devil fruit awakenings/will of devil fruits? Luffy is obviously a prime example, but it would stand to reason doflamingo and katakuri could awaken different awakenings as well, and smoker, just about anyone. My other examples would be katakuri being able to change the landscape would be armament (same with doflamingo) while his donuts that could spawn arms was the observation mastery. Just a thought! Doubt it’s worth a whole video or anything but much love if you even respond!
I think it would be interesting to see if maybe devil fruits were created by the old kingdom and its allies by using the fruits as a way to preserve their will while facing extermination. But how much what devil fruits are and their connection to the void century is unsure, because even though Vegapunk is a brilliant scientist, there's no knowing how much he actually knows of void c if anything at all.
My thoughts don’t always align with yours, but here they’re 1-1. I think there will be some reveal about a tangible connection between Haki and Devil Fruit. Like they all come from the same source. And I the void century is so important because the secret to their creation and connection is in there. Also because of atrocities the WG did when they formed, but that’s been theorized since forever.
Possibly devil fruits give you the ability to use your willpower “haki” in a certain way that isn’t normally possible, which would be why someone else’s haki could allow them to touch/hurt DF users and nullify abilities
Had this same exact debate with someone on BDA's Live reaction to 1063. Haki was literally implemented to counter devil fruits. Based on the foreshadowing with Roger and Shank's throughout the story, its HEAVILY implied Haki can directly counter even the strongest DF's.
I'm actually glad Oda put those scenes in, because I've seen so many people not understand what haki can do, and just make stuff up. So many people think haki can just straight up negate devil fruit powers, all because you need haki to hit a logia user and because Garp hurt Luffy with only his fists (both are just examples of armament haki being able to make you able to hit your opponent no matter what, and hurt your opponent if your haki is stronger, not examples of devil fruit negation) What these scenes imply is that a strong enough haki can defend yourself from, and negate if they are continuous abilities, devil fruit powers that target you (the disease from the sick sick fruit, or being teleported by the op op fruit are the two examples so far)
The idea of sugars fruit working on bm or Kai do really intrigues me. Like how would that work exactly, if everyone forgot they existed? Considering how influential the yonkos are.
I think it more depends on what the fruit is doing to you that would go against your will. The fruits like law, sugar bonney and giolla could be countered. However getting punched by a lava fruit user wouldn't be countered since the user is literally magama or kuzan is freezing the moisture directly not the user. Same as hit by a zoan strength would still damage without counter.
Theories I have: Haki is the application of someone's will on the physical (Armament), the mental (Observation), and the spiritual (Conqueror/Voice of all things). Someone's Haki grows the more the affect the world around them, like a build up of karma from feats. Treat the bounties as how powerful ones will is and likely to have Conqueror's. The more their Haki grows, the more the wills affect others, being the reason so many this era have Conqueror's Haki. Devil fruits is the manifestation of the wills of concepts (ideas, phenomenon, beings, objects, etc) inside normal fruits from the use of Conqueror's Haki (or the true name of the Haki: Voice of All Things) Dr. Vegapunk is only able to acquire Zoan wills in Smile fruit because Haki is attach to the genetic material; the physical passing of wills. Scientifically, he has no understanding how to aquire the other concepts wills if it has no seamless genetic material, unless the new Vegapunk arc shows he can and the King is trying to kill him because of it. To impart a concept onto a fruit, you have to be a master of the craft, a concept that developed sentience, or trap the will of another in it. Devil fruit gets a host, changes to how the concept is understood by the world, once the host dies it updates itself. Few reasons why the Devil fruit weakness is Water, either the will in the ocean errodes it due to so many wills inside it, so they are under pressure in a literal and figurtive sense. Water washes away the Devil Fruit inside someone and if they CAN live and survive being in water for so long, the Devil fruit would be ejected out of them. Or rejection from the very world for having a living will attach to someone, a two soul one body situation. Devil fruits are the unnatural ways to inherit wills and the world rejects it and possibly the reason the fruit travel through oceans currents as the ocean is trying to scatter the fruits away from everything.
Since in this chapter they mentioned Haki is able to nullify DF powers, while Luffy was fighting Kaido in Gear 5 he was able to transform Kaidos body into rubber when he attacked. Is this maybe the power of Luffy's awakened DF against Haki?
Two scenarios I can think of: Haki can be used to prevent your DF ability from being outrighted negated. OR Whether someone is able to nullify DF effects is dependent on how power the haki is and how powerful the ability is.
My current theory is that the world we see the story in is the second version of it. The first world was changed into what we see now (probably during the void century) and the devil fruits are the aspects/essences of the old world continued into this one as an attempt to keep existing/prevent erasure. And maybe the one thing that couldn't be erased or even changed was Haki, the power of will. Or something along those lines. And it's called Devil fruits as they represent the old world and enemies to the current gods of this time
What i'm thinking atm is they're establishing how haki nullifies devil fruits, is that related to how water saps a devil fruit users strength? Like does Im or someone have power over water and so their ungodly haki just flows through the sea nullifying devil fruits in the same way?
I was in a debate with someone a few years back about how Laws ability effects ppl with strong haki. He kept saying Laws ability is unstoppable even if the target has extremely strong haki. He even said Law would be able to one shot Kaido lol.
I think Haki, and by extension Devil fruits, are formed by the collective consciousness of all living beings. Like the Type Moons way that mystery’s work, the Paramecia's like the Wash Wash Fruit that is the concept of washing Landry, and the Legendary Zoan Bird Bird fruit Model: Phoenix is a human made Legend. So Haki is all living beings connection to the Collective Consciousness.
Yes, I came to the same conclusion yesterday. Devil Fruits are the "souls" in things (like fire, ice, magnetism) imbued into a fruit. You eat the fruit and your soul merges with the soul of the fruit and you get their power. The "Voice of all things" means all things have a soul. Haki is also soul manipulation but on yourself. That's why haki negates devil fruits and affect logias, they attack the soul of the fruit which is the source of the power. You overpower the soul with your own.
I just love the Haki since Luffy use Conquers Haki in marineford war I just fell in love with Haki There are Lot of Amazing powr system but I love Haki
I think haki can counter DF powers or enhance them depending on how the user wills it to. For example Luffy can harden his gum body, whereas Garp could nullify his bounciness. Now I think there is a separation with remote effect ,body properties and matter manipulation DF interactions. For example Sugar’s and Bonney’s DF work passively and not in conjunction with their haki. So the inflicted can counter the fruits effect only if they have ridiculous amounts of haki, independent of the DF users level of haki. That is why Blackbeard was afraid of Hancock’s power. Because her power is conditional to the inflicted’s lust for her. Or it could be that Blackbeard does not have top tiers level of haki needed to counteract a fruit like Bonney’s or Sugar’s. In conclusion I think that someone’s haki being stronger is only relevant for active usage DF powers. Pasive ones like Sugars may require just a top tier level to break the effect. This would explain why a character like Don Chinjao was turned into a doll even though his haki was stronger than Sugar’s. He did not have enough haki to break the fruits effect on it’s own.
Actually, the one-shot-KO moves in Pokemon do work on higher level, at least in Gen 1 they did, they just have horrible accuracy. The XAccuracy item bypassed that, which is why Horn Drill Nidoking is so good in RBY speed runs. But still a fantastic analogy
My thought is that humanity has its desires and such, which are related to the forming of Devilfruits; but one’s will determines whether or not you succumb to your desires or choose to resist them. Desire VS Will, that’s the idea here. Will is generally capable of being the stronger force, hence why Haki typically overcomes Devilfruits born from human desires and allows the Haki user to make contact with them and resist their powers. However, constantly exerting your will can be mentally exhausting, to the point where you just say “fuck it” and go with the flow- hence the ability to exhaust one’s Haki, while Devilfruits may use physical stamina but you can keep following that desire until you die.
Theory: perhaps devil fruits are made from someone's haki. Like someone poured their willpower into a fruit and the power comes from your imagination sort of like hunter hunter. My reasoning: some characters have powers that dont come from df. Like madam Sharley and miss golden weeks colors trap ability. Like what If their haki was strong enough they could create a df with their ability. And the devil inside a df is just the willpower of the person who originated the ability firsy
Haki is the great equalizer in the series, and now with Kaido and Big mom blocking DF with it, Law seemingly using it and Shanks doing crazy stuff too. I would say it's even stacking more in it's favor. Like I mentioned before currently Haki is the major dominant power system in the series, in where even if you have a insane DF you still need some form of Haki to be the top. However if you only have Haki then if you want you can be the top with just it. Roger being the obvious example, now with the reveal of Vegapunk I assume we gonna get more info on DF so have to wait and see will it tip the scales again.
Knowing that shanks crew are just power full haki users just makes me loved them even more. That line kaido said of roger bought the world to its knees without a powerful devil fruit. This just let me know that Blackbeard can’t beat shanks crew.
Is your next video going to be explaining the new devil fruits revealed in more detail Also Law must have Conquerors, because if he doesn't then wow he is just really really strong
Could you imagine Bonney turning Kaido into a child and then getting Jotaro/Set beat-down by him. Also haki comes two fold. The physical expression (Armament, Analytical and Conquerer's) and passive (which is why those that may not be able to express it themselves properly can withstand bursts of conquerer's. It's how much ambition you have versus that that is expressed. Like how Luffy knocked out the New Fishman mooks and only caused Hoody to shutter, the blast wasn't at a high enough level to knock Hoody out). At least that's how I've seen it.
Mistborn!!!!???? What a wild coincidence. Been watching tekking for years and I finished that series and moved onto the way of kings. Same universe all tied together!
The reason that awakenings work on even top tier haki defense maybe because that they were concentrated attacks, while haki can usually defend against abilities the burst of will power at the exact moment of an awakened attack (which imply to be awakened due to haki of the user) is greater than the constant output of haki defense, just like the special beam cannon from DBZ.
@@BlackangelKatakuri Law is still not a confirmed CoC user, and you know how it is with One Piece, until we have in panel or sbs confirmation we can never be sure, it is fun to speculate though.
@@disasteromega True but there's also the fact they have been haki users in general. That nullification did look alot like Shanks white conquerors though
I feel like the devil fruits have a lineage factor because they are fruits, and zoans are easiest to recreate because there are living creatures vegapunk can splice with the lineage factor in the parallel fruit. I think the origin of devil fruits is probably created by the shared haki of the living creatures on the one piece planet having collective ideas and concepts about things that exist. In this final saga of one piece we're probably going to see more characters mixing devil fruit abilities and haki- friendship being one of the core concepts for oda's story.
Another idea being devil fruits were created as a weapon by people and races on the one piece world (probably lunarians) to combat the people from the moon, using haki to bring concepts and creatures they interacted with on the planet into reality. Or in contrast- the moon people infected the plant life and natives of "earth" with their haki to terraform or something and the native one piece earthling's haki interacted with the process and complicated the devil fruit powers.
Devil fruits are created using soul manipulation. Think Big Mom's DF, but in reverse. "The Voice of all Things" means all things have a soul, so DFs work by taking the soul of something (like fire) and infusing it in a fruit. Vegapunk has a similar technology where he puts a DF in a weapon (basically infuses a soul into an object). Haki is also soul manipulation but in yourself. Armament let's you touch logias because you touch their soul instead of whatever they're made of. You can't touch fire, but you can touch the soul of fire. Also explains why haki negates DFs. If your soul is strong enough, you can negate another soul influence on you.
ok, I have a very difficult question. Imagine Kaido had a different devil fruit, a smile devil fruit, like the Gifters, maybe even a dragon fruit but the SMILE version. and Otama gives him a Kibi Dango, and also tells him to shake hands. What do you think will happen??? (Considering Kaido's Strong Haki of course)
I'm glad I was able to fast forward at the last second because I just bought the books. Idk what he said about it, but I didn't think I'd have to worry about some spoiler in a tekking vid 😂
Expanding on your idea of Im having a supreme Haki that he's been possibly using to control the Gorosei, it could be the opposite of Luffy's power to gain allies. If we think of Luffy as the one to break through enemy barriers and form a connection with someone who is originally cold or ruthless, like Katakuri or Kaido, then Im could be the opposite, where he can take good people or just anyone and dominate them with his will to force them to do his bidding. And so it would be the perfect fight because Luffy liberates people both physically and mentally/spiritually and Im enslaves people both physically and mentally/spiritually, both using Haki to break through that initial barrier
You could do an video about Conquerors Haki. Mostly about it's curent and future users. Most of curent users have an certain ambition to conquer something in some sence. Luffy wants to be king of the pirates, same as Kid, Kaido, Linlin. Zoro wants to be strongest swordsman, Katakuri strongest owerall etc. The ambition or lack of one can be used to discuss potential users CH and to explain why some powerfull characters doesent have it.
It would be interesting if it turned out that the storm Dragon created was not a devil fruit but an example of what conqueror's haki at its peak of mastering can do
that's dumb as gear5th.
Or he was simply amplifying his power using haki
That is a distinct possibility. Whitebeard and Shanks split the heaven without really trying.
Having a strong enough conqueror's haki to change the weather is pretty interesting since the same could be for Imu when Lulusia Kingdom was destroyed by the lasers because it could be the very willpower of Imu alone creating energy or by boosting the ancient weapon.
@@therewasoldcringe last time I heard about the kingdom it had a girl named Moda and for some reason a certain government felt fear of what this kingdom could become.
19:45 Honestly, based on the unfinished version of haki we see in Alabasta with Zoro vs Mr 1, when he is able to find the swords by feeling their "breath," similar to CoO, and to cut through steel by feeling the "breath" of steel, similar to CoA, and they were both the same ability for Zoro, I always thought of haki as the one haki, one single pool, and you channel it however you see fit/are capable of. You can channel it as a physical enhancement (Armament, increases physical resilience/hardness), as a mental enhancement (Observation, increases perception/intuition) or perhaps you can even force it onto others, forcibly imposing your will on them (Conqueror's), and it can be voluntarily (coating yourself in CoA, for example), accidental (Luffy's outbursts of CoC before the TS, Koby awakening CoO at Marineford) or permanent (Otohime feeling everyone's emotions; Luffy, Zoro and Sanij "detecting" Caribou at Fishman Island; Aisa's Mantra)
What is CoO, CoA, & CoC?
@@JiangGo1998 Haki. Colour of Observation, Colour of Armanent and Colour of the Conqueror
Makes sense. I strongly believe original Haki users (or a singular user) created Devil Fruits, connecting back with how Devil Fruits were created by the "Sea Devil" (which is probably just the first Pirate) and their descendants were called the "Will of the Devil" or Will of D as it became known as.
There could indeed be such a connection, especially since word Devil can also be read as D-will fruits.
Makes sense with people having the D initial being the "enemies of god"
Plausible
Haki, Devil Fruits and Lineage Factors.
They're probably all connected and that connection will be what's revealed here. I can't wait. Post-wano hitting different
Lineage factor, inherited will, hmmm
Everyone talks about lineage factor like it's just DNA. I'm guessing it's similar but more fantastical, and it will be the key to half the weird stuff we see in the OP world.
yawn.
Agreed its all but confirmed that devil fruit powers become part of your DNA when you eat one since Vegapunk could use Kaidos blood to clone the fruit .
post wano arc is done we're on egghead island arc now
it actually reminds me of Aizen's statement in bleach, where in a battle of soul reapers is a battle of spiritual pressure. If your overall reiatsu is stronger than the other guy's, then all of their hax abilities and sht are just useless against you;
These discussions have had me thinking about Blackbeard's powers recently..... Its been shown to negate other fruit powers. What if the real power behind the darkness is absolute negation. Like, the limitations of the person have been negated, which is why he can handle multiple devil fruits. Why he seemingly get whatever he wants. He's able to manipulate the ability to negate anything and everything.
This is what makes Shanks so dangerous even with out a devil fruit power. He suppressed green bull's power and turned him back to a human even at a distance. That along with being one of the strongest swordsmen in one-piece puts him on same level as admirals.
Admirals are weaker than Yonkous
Three types of Haki, three types of devil fruits, three different ancient weapons, three big active factions, three sword style... Tekking is onto something with this trifecta thing, Zoro is also onto something...
And the 3 eye tribe
Three heads on BB's jolly roger
Three scars on Shanks face
Three sections on the clima tact
Three on Galdino's head
Three little pigs
About three fiddy
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"About three fiddy" Lmao 😂
That's good and all but Zoro has an 8 sword style.....so....
4 types of devil fruit, I consider mythical zoan its own category..
I could see Tekking being on to something with Im. We've seen Devil Fruit users like Luffy use his Haki to improve the use of his fruit. But how often are we seeing a fruit amplify haki? Im may simply have a kind of King-King fruit that generates a kind of feedback loop and let's them emit extreme amounts of conquerer haki that no normal person would dare challenge.
Only example i could think of is Enel. His lightning logia was able to enhance his observation haki and give it more range. You could say that Diamond Jozu having the diamond fruit could enhance his armament haki too I guess
I think haki being used to bolster a fruits power is all but confirmed. And when we finally see Kuzan Kizaru and Akainu fight they'll enhance their elemental powers with haki
Haki is willpower so I think it really has to do with creativity and self-belief to attempt to shape reality which is peak with Conq and could be infused with DF somehow like a technique. I'm thinking Sanji's abilities are key here to showcase people can develop abilities without DFs, like Fishman Karate, Sabo's Dragon Claw style, Okama Kenpo, etc. Lots of possibilities and opportunities for characters to power up.
I was thinking that if imu had the water water fruit. That to anyone else it would essentially kill them as that’s the devils fruit only weakness (water/liquid), but since imus conquerors haki is so strong that he is actually able to nullify that and essentially be unstoppable.
Imagine a "Haki-Haki no-mi" fruit that could be fused with other fruits like Teach, game over lol.
I viewed haki as "exerting one's soul" and by extension reassert their self, in a sense. So when someone uses armament and touches someone else they assert their self onto them, and for logia types this means they become tangible, or they can coat their weapons in haki by making their weapons an extension of themselves momentarily.
So the reason that haki "nullifies" devil fruit abilities is actually that haki reinforces the soul/self and pushes out the influences of other souls, like the ongoing effects of devil fruits.
Yes, I'm pretty sure this is the right answer
Also, this haki negating DF bit has been my head canon since Smoker told his subordinates they didn't have strong enough haki to fight Law.
My personal belief is that how well haki can negate DF is dependent on how strong the haki is how strong the ability is. Also the relativity between the opponents. Example, Big Mom is powerful but even she would have trouble countering two Awakenings. Even before it, Law and Kid were able to combat her. Also it takes conscious effort to nullify the ability.
I'm so glad Oda put Haki in the story. I love how simple but awesome it is..
It really got better with time i think. Early Marineford/ fish man island was quite irritating but it really grew on me. Wano did a great job in solidifying haki into a great system
Maybe doc Q infected the cannon balls being shot into the Polar Tang. That would make more sense as once one of those are in the Sub then it would start to infest anyone hit by it or near it.
I like this idea
I like this too
That makes alot of sense. I thought that Doc Q infected the cannonballs or bullets and Van Auger teleported them to the sub marine lol that would be a crazy combination
@@thetruth997_ I think one of the panels shows the BB shop shooting at the Polar Tang, more than likely was Van Auger shooting the cannon balls.
Maybe a combination of observation Haki + his teleporting fruit could let him move around objects that he can't initially see.
I like to think of haki and devil fruits working as the saving throw system in DnD. For example, in this chapter, Doc Q used an ability with a constitution saving throw based on his haki/df and law was able to resist because he "succeeded on the save", as in, he has enough haki to resist.
That’s what i took it to be like as well when Kaido and Big Mom weren’t affected. Their “constitution” is so high they aren’t affected by a fruit
Basically Oda needed a way to explain how DFs with insta win abilities can exist alongside characters that are regarded in universe as near invincible. Why was Doffy so scared of Kaido, even though he could presumably rely on sneaking Sugar in close to turn him into a toy if he showed up? Kaido's haki makes him resist the toy transformation. Why can't Law just teleport Big Mom into the sea? Her haki means he can't move her against her will. And now we see that Doc Q can't just infect anyone he wants with a deadly disease, because their haki might be strong enough to negate it. I doubt that it just works on literally any df ability, since Law could still attack Big Mom with his other attacks, and Luffy could still turn Kaido into rubber post awakening, but would work on fruit powers that negate narrative tension.
I think Oda only making an excuse of having Law back again on screen. Oda just can't stand Law's off screen much longer 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Law is too popular, the fans got him this role otherwise i think Oda was planning to kill off the supernovas.
@j r Careful we might be watching that happen right now. It’s going to be really difficult for law to survive this encounter. We know for a fact that Blackbeard does not engage in “fair” fights. He won’t fight a fight he isn’t certain he can win, and he doesn’t allow strong devil fruits to escape him. For law to survive this fight we need either Blackbeard to have massively miscalculated the strength of law, or we need a stronger character to show up, and force Blackbeard to retreat. However what wil not happen is Blackbeard beat law up, and leave him beat up, but alive.
@@jamesdecost6009 bro no one needs to show up man this isnt pre time skip and like shanks said there isnt fair fights when fighting pirates
0:04 Tekking, dont lie to us, i saw the last Op dnd episode
Don't know how much I needed this vid. You keep me going Matt. Thanks for being Tekking❤
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What your forgetting about Pokémon moves is (or possibly you never knew to begin with) that if you use lock on or mind reader before using fissure, guillotine, horn drill etc then the move is a guaranteed hit even if the opposing Pokémon is airborne or underground (providing that the opposing Pokémon doesn't have levitate or whatever the other one is that blocks horn drill, guillotine etc) even if its at a higher level then your Pokémon is.
Both sturdy and wonder guard Iirc. Unfortunately unviable in showdown bc it's basically a free switchout to the opponent. Could be useful in a niche to force out set up sweepers though assuming you can survive 2 hits safely.
Edit: now that I think about it, you're also devoting two move slots. And I'm unsure if ghost/flying natural immunities will negate it anyway. Sheer cold seems safest but idk what Pokémon have both lock on and an Ohko move in their move pool.
@@cv6531 Smeargle. The answer is always Smeargle~
In doubles with a follow me partner, yeah.
I haven't seen another RUclipsr that looks like they dub themselves until I found you and this Video reminded me of it.
Love your vids anyways.
Law is just gonna switch the hearts of his crew and Blackbeard's then his crew gonna already know to jump into the ocean and drown them while law switches them back
Hopefully BB won't try to stop Law or anything
Law is gonna get smashed and not in a good way idk why yall think Law is taking a W and I like Law
@@thetruth997_ Oda decides who wins
Since we are speculating a death match maybe law loses but I don't see either dying, so the question is actually who will get the road poneglyphs and law may have already shambled teach's but it's all speculation
But in a logical battle of these Titans not my choice words law could shamble all of Blackbeard crew with fish and gg no re
@@IsraeliteLife I don't remember Law moving things underwater.
Has he done it before?
@@randomcatname7792 laws room is full bubble, as long as he is not in the water he has full control of his room, which should include fish
yup this chapter pretty much answers the concern of "what if weak but hack df encounters yonko level fighter" scenario. which was badly needed.
Tekking makes the weekends better
Tekking, you made a 22 minute video and apologize for it being short. That’s exactly why we love you.
I have a theory
When you get hit by devil fruit such as age age fruit
It's not permanent it just takes time for your haki to completely cancel the devil fruit (passively) even if you don't know how to use haki
Everyone has it
just not as strong
And another theory
Devil fruit like logia can alter things permanently without needing an awakening you just need to get enough mastery or experiences or training with that fruit to create a powerful enough attack to permanently alter things
Awakening just makes them way stronger
I think a good way to imagine it is to think that the One-Piece world is like the Star Wars world and maybe something like the Force exists in the One-Piece world, like everything has a will of their own
Tekking. Now that we have seem Kaido going all out. What you think about Moria's plan of creating a zombie army including Oz to confront Kaido? How bad would Moria and his crew lose?
A burst of coc and they go down
Tobi roppo is enough tbh
what if vegapunk have the voice of all things?
and he managed to amplify it so he could "hear" the will of the DF and he can "understand" and learn even more about the DF, on top of that it will give us an answer as to why vegapunk left kaido's artificial DF, maybe the DF "told" him to leave him there for a reason, my point is just play with the idea
TEKKING! You just unlocked that damn narwhal song from the deepest recesses of my memories
Reading Mistborn? Awesome! Hope you make some videos on it. Loved those books.
I will always greatly appreciate how everytime tekking imitates a one piece character, he never fails to start with their laugh
I'm curious if this will be playing some role in theory about Crocodile that I read some time ago. There are some secrets going on around this character and a lot of it starts adding in some interesting ways. I'm not sure if this will go the way I think will go but him never learning how to use Haki may be a vital part to it.
I'll have to double check but I reread the Impel Down arc and I could've sworn Crocodile mentioned that he could've used haki but claimed he saw no reason to do so against Luffy and others. So you might be right that he's worried about using too much and *ahem* reversing a procedure done long ago. 😅
@@JoseSerrato0420 We know Oda just didn't have the idea fully fleshed out yet no matter how many retcons they try, Croco/Ace/Smoker not having haki at that time made no sense as we kno the world now Ace/Smoker have a fight where neither can touch the other. MF was another huge time we saw that almost everyone there should've been using advanced haki but no1 came close to it, Luffy has the strongest haki showing in MF & he did so by accident
The Croco-Mom theory will never die.
@@marcuswilliams2910 haki was present very early on in the series, maybe it wasn't fleshed out until much later but was definitely hinted at. Rayleigh explained in the timeskip that haki isn't really something that can be taught but something that a person needs to be shown and have them figure it out, and that it's widely learned through firsthand experience. Hence Luffy training for two years on that island. Koby didn't start his training until after he started using haki for the first time. The first portion of the Grandline was relatively easy so no one needed, or could develop their haki to be extremely proficient aside from a few examples.
Amazon Lily has tons of haki users as they were a warrior tribe that taught each other. Skypeia had mantra, but that skill was mostly known about but not widespread, but those were single islands that were allowed to grow on their own.
Fact is that if you were good at haki you most likely were going to end up in the New World. CP9 were assassins stationed in Paradise, and their targets were often normal politicians. They didn't need haki training and giving them that training would make them more difficult for the government to control. Smoker didn't know haki because he had sea prism weapons and was stationed away from the Grandline, so no reason to learn. Tashigi? You're taught by your superiors. If Smoker didn't know then she couldn't learn. The marines themselves can't really dedicate training it to their recruits because you need an aptitude for it to start training and you don't want to train powerful techniques to new people unless you can tell they're loyal.
Lastly, Ace didn't know because he had only been at sea for 2 years and he was way stronger than the average pirate. If battle brings out haki then Ace didn't face enough challenges prior to meeting Whitebeard, and even then he was still strong enough for Paradise.
My head cannon for Dr. Kureha's is that her haki is so amazing she out will's getting older, instead of the general fan consensus of having received the youth surgery.
I think Devil Fruits are the manifestation of dreams, but what good is a dream without will power and the call to action? And that's why Devil Fruits are weak to Haki. Haki is putting your words to action. Devil Fruits aren't an earned, earnest power, but Haki is because you put in the work and determination.
will is bs fma dante was right People can say there is a balance, a logic that everything happens for a reason... But the truth is far less designed. No matter how hard you work, when you die, you die. Some spend their entire life trying to scratch their way to the top, and still die in poverty. While others are born into wealth without ever working at all. It's a cruel and random world. And yet the chaos is all so beautiful. yes chaos is beautiful espacially when your enemies are crying and begging for mercy so hot now i know god form the bible feels.
Man love your energy, and now we all know where you get it from. Love the cocane granade
I never thought of the Haki explanation with Jimbe and Big Mom
This video tackles the one thing I really dislike about haki. To me it was much more interesting when there were just many wacky unexplained things in the OP world, rather than having everything explained with one single phenomenon
i like the soil idea because it could be that for weird devil fruits when people die the soil (spirit of haki i guess) absorbs the knowledge of said dead people allowing it to produce new fruits. Who to say all devil fruits were created at once possibly new ones crop up over time
Sawyer made some good points about this topic
To expand this discussion, it's been implied since Dressrosa, it's why Law wasn't able to move Doffy, HOWEVER he was able to swap Doffy and Sanji out because he caught them BY SURPRISE
That also explains why Sugar can affect the fighters, they were damaged/injured and/or unconscious
To go even further we can check some pre-timeskip examples since we learned that Haki HAS ALWAYS EXISTED and it's up to us to see when, where, and how:
- Foxy, his beams caught people by surprise because he was a trickster
- Momonga resisting Hancock's powers, sure he stabbed himself and through the pain he resisted, but he resisted through SHEER WILLPOWER and we know willpower = haki
Other instances of Haki pre-timeskip (not necessarily countering fruits)
- Luffy punching Mr3 in Little Garden despite the many clones
- Zoro fighting Mr1
- every single logia avoiding attacks with observation at the moment of impact since the enemies also are supposed to be using haki as well
8:14 when law changed the straw hats around
Also Law is able to do all of the TTC abilities lol, he can swap genders, he can teleport, he can lift heavy things in his room
21:26 I could see since luffy started combining armament and conquerors haki so just add in ob
Love the video and keep up the great work tekking
Matt bring me the Mistborn videos PLEASE
even if it's a short one-off video, I NEED to hear you talk about it
Planning to traveling to Melbourne at some point. Can't wait to following in Berry's brick steps. WHOOHOOOOO!!
This is making it more and more likely to me that it'll be Luffy and Coby vs Blackbeard as a team because of how much devil fruit negation drains you. Thats alot of energy being used just to counter df powers and since Luffy needs haki to attack and sense he won't have enough to fight Blackbeard alone that's where Coby comes in.
I thought this was already established by Doffy? Like when he mentions to Law that Vergo’s haki is to strong for Law to handle, wasn’t he referring to Law’s fruit
Hey tekking! Thanks for all the hard work on all the different content.
Just a question, do you think mastering different forms of haki affects devil fruit awakenings/will of devil fruits?
Luffy is obviously a prime example, but it would stand to reason doflamingo and katakuri could awaken different awakenings as well, and smoker, just about anyone.
My other examples would be katakuri being able to change the landscape would be armament (same with doflamingo) while his donuts that could spawn arms was the observation mastery.
Just a thought! Doubt it’s worth a whole video or anything but much love if you even respond!
I think it would be interesting to see if maybe devil fruits were created by the old kingdom and its allies by using the fruits as a way to preserve their will while facing extermination. But how much what devil fruits are and their connection to the void century is unsure, because even though Vegapunk is a brilliant scientist, there's no knowing how much he actually knows of void c if anything at all.
My thoughts don’t always align with yours, but here they’re 1-1. I think there will be some reveal about a tangible connection between Haki and Devil Fruit. Like they all come from the same source. And I the void century is so important because the secret to their creation and connection is in there. Also because of atrocities the WG did when they formed, but that’s been theorized since forever.
Possibly devil fruits give you the ability to use your willpower “haki” in a certain way that isn’t normally possible, which would be why someone else’s haki could allow them to touch/hurt DF users and nullify abilities
Haki is pretty damn cool
Had this same exact debate with someone on BDA's Live reaction to 1063. Haki was literally implemented to counter devil fruits. Based on the foreshadowing with Roger and Shank's throughout the story, its HEAVILY implied Haki can directly counter even the strongest DF's.
Using collections of 3 is a common storytelling trope in general.
Thanks Tekking I forgot about that song till now
i could see haki being really tied to the will of D and how it originated from the will of D
12:38 I think it's both at the same time, willpower and not being afraid are directly connected
Mistborn trilogy by samderson is easily one of my favorites!! You should read elantris afterwards also by sanderson
Haki and especially luffy's devil fruit abilities are based on the Siddhi's in Buddhism.
Imu is also meaning Buddha the Enlightened One....
I'm actually glad Oda put those scenes in, because I've seen so many people not understand what haki can do, and just make stuff up. So many people think haki can just straight up negate devil fruit powers, all because you need haki to hit a logia user and because Garp hurt Luffy with only his fists (both are just examples of armament haki being able to make you able to hit your opponent no matter what, and hurt your opponent if your haki is stronger, not examples of devil fruit negation)
What these scenes imply is that a strong enough haki can defend yourself from, and negate if they are continuous abilities, devil fruit powers that target you (the disease from the sick sick fruit, or being teleported by the op op fruit are the two examples so far)
The idea of sugars fruit working on bm or Kai do really intrigues me. Like how would that work exactly, if everyone forgot they existed? Considering how influential the yonkos are.
Haki is black air force energy made manifest.
I think it more depends on what the fruit is doing to you that would go against your will. The fruits like law, sugar bonney and giolla could be countered. However getting punched by a lava fruit user wouldn't be countered since the user is literally magama or kuzan is freezing the moisture directly not the user. Same as hit by a zoan strength would still damage without counter.
The counter for logia is being able to touch them, but it wouldn't disable the element itself
Theories I have:
Haki is the application of someone's will on the physical (Armament), the mental (Observation), and the spiritual (Conqueror/Voice of all things).
Someone's Haki grows the more the affect the world around them, like a build up of karma from feats. Treat the bounties as how powerful ones will is and likely to have Conqueror's. The more their Haki grows, the more the wills affect others, being the reason so many this era have Conqueror's Haki.
Devil fruits is the manifestation of the wills of concepts (ideas, phenomenon, beings, objects, etc) inside normal fruits from the use of Conqueror's Haki (or the true name of the Haki: Voice of All Things) Dr. Vegapunk is only able to acquire Zoan wills in Smile fruit because Haki is attach to the genetic material; the physical passing of wills. Scientifically, he has no understanding how to aquire the other concepts wills if it has no seamless genetic material, unless the new Vegapunk arc shows he can and the King is trying to kill him because of it. To impart a concept onto a fruit, you have to be a master of the craft, a concept that developed sentience, or trap the will of another in it. Devil fruit gets a host, changes to how the concept is understood by the world, once the host dies it updates itself.
Few reasons why the Devil fruit weakness is Water, either the will in the ocean errodes it due to so many wills inside it, so they are under pressure in a literal and figurtive sense. Water washes away the Devil Fruit inside someone and if they CAN live and survive being in water for so long, the Devil fruit would be ejected out of them. Or rejection from the very world for having a living will attach to someone, a two soul one body situation. Devil fruits are the unnatural ways to inherit wills and the world rejects it and possibly the reason the fruit travel through oceans currents as the ocean is trying to scatter the fruits away from everything.
Super insightful discussion. Very fun and interesting
I love how it's almost a race to tekkings videos
Where I hear the devils in the devil fruit theory, I somehow imagine that One Piece is a prequel to Black Clover 😅
I'm so disappointed you didn't mention Lily Enstomach during that beginning rant lol
Since in this chapter they mentioned Haki is able to nullify DF powers, while Luffy was fighting Kaido in Gear 5 he was able to transform Kaidos body into rubber when he attacked. Is this maybe the power of Luffy's awakened DF against Haki?
Luffy was also using haki
Two scenarios I can think of:
Haki can be used to prevent your DF ability from being outrighted negated.
OR
Whether someone is able to nullify DF effects is dependent on how power the haki is and how powerful the ability is.
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Luffy about to show how haki used to hunt in ancient times.
I'm glad I finally caught up to the manga so I can watch the One Piece vids again.
Omg devil fruits being the souls of past special haki users is an insane theory that’s crazy enough to work
My current theory is that the world we see the story in is the second version of it. The first world was changed into what we see now (probably during the void century) and the devil fruits are the aspects/essences of the old world continued into this one as an attempt to keep existing/prevent erasure. And maybe the one thing that couldn't be erased or even changed was Haki, the power of will.
Or something along those lines. And it's called Devil fruits as they represent the old world and enemies to the current gods of this time
Thanks tekking super excited for narwhal facts going to go watch that video now
Didn’t expect Mistborn spoilers in this video
What i'm thinking atm is they're establishing how haki nullifies devil fruits, is that related to how water saps a devil fruit users strength? Like does Im or someone have power over water and so their ungodly haki just flows through the sea nullifying devil fruits in the same way?
tekking's impressions are too good
Im from Melbourne and i dont care if you got it wrong your still my fav youtuber and fav one piece fan
I was in a debate with someone a few years back about how Laws ability effects ppl with strong haki. He kept saying Laws ability is unstoppable even if the target has extremely strong haki. He even said Law would be able to one shot Kaido lol.
I think Haki, and by extension Devil fruits, are formed by the collective consciousness of all living beings. Like the Type Moons way that mystery’s work, the Paramecia's like the Wash Wash Fruit that is the concept of washing Landry, and the Legendary Zoan Bird Bird fruit Model: Phoenix is a human made Legend. So Haki is all living beings connection to the Collective Consciousness.
Yes, I came to the same conclusion yesterday. Devil Fruits are the "souls" in things (like fire, ice, magnetism) imbued into a fruit. You eat the fruit and your soul merges with the soul of the fruit and you get their power. The "Voice of all things" means all things have a soul.
Haki is also soul manipulation but on yourself. That's why haki negates devil fruits and affect logias, they attack the soul of the fruit which is the source of the power. You overpower the soul with your own.
I just love the Haki since Luffy use Conquers Haki in marineford war I just fell in love with Haki There are Lot of Amazing powr system but I love Haki
I think haki can counter DF powers or enhance them depending on how the user wills it to. For example Luffy can harden his gum body, whereas Garp could nullify his bounciness.
Now I think there is a separation with remote effect ,body properties and matter manipulation DF interactions. For example Sugar’s and Bonney’s DF work passively and not in conjunction with their haki. So the inflicted can counter the fruits effect only if they have ridiculous amounts of haki, independent of the DF users level of haki.
That is why Blackbeard was afraid of Hancock’s power. Because her power is conditional to the inflicted’s lust for her. Or it could be that Blackbeard does not have top tiers level of haki needed to counteract a fruit like Bonney’s or Sugar’s.
In conclusion I think that someone’s haki being stronger is only relevant for active usage DF powers. Pasive ones like Sugars may require just a top tier level to break the effect. This would explain why a character like Don Chinjao was turned into a doll even though his haki was stronger than Sugar’s. He did not have enough haki to break the fruits effect on it’s own.
Thank you for a great video
Actually, the one-shot-KO moves in Pokemon do work on higher level, at least in Gen 1 they did, they just have horrible accuracy. The XAccuracy item bypassed that, which is why Horn Drill Nidoking is so good in RBY speed runs. But still a fantastic analogy
My thought is that humanity has its desires and such, which are related to the forming of Devilfruits; but one’s will determines whether or not you succumb to your desires or choose to resist them. Desire VS Will, that’s the idea here. Will is generally capable of being the stronger force, hence why Haki typically overcomes Devilfruits born from human desires and allows the Haki user to make contact with them and resist their powers. However, constantly exerting your will can be mentally exhausting, to the point where you just say “fuck it” and go with the flow- hence the ability to exhaust one’s Haki, while Devilfruits may use physical stamina but you can keep following that desire until you die.
Theory: perhaps devil fruits are made from someone's haki. Like someone poured their willpower into a fruit and the power comes from your imagination sort of like hunter hunter.
My reasoning: some characters have powers that dont come from df. Like madam Sharley and miss golden weeks colors trap ability. Like what If their haki was strong enough they could create a df with their ability. And the devil inside a df is just the willpower of the person who originated the ability firsy
Haki is the great equalizer in the series, and now with Kaido and Big mom blocking DF with it, Law seemingly using it and Shanks doing crazy stuff too. I would say it's even stacking more in it's favor. Like I mentioned before currently Haki is the major dominant power system in the series, in where even if you have a insane DF you still need some form of Haki to be the top. However if you only have Haki then if you want you can be the top with just it. Roger being the obvious example, now with the reveal of Vegapunk I assume we gonna get more info on DF so have to wait and see will it tip the scales again.
Knowing that shanks crew are just power full haki users just makes me loved them even more. That line kaido said of roger bought the world to its knees without a powerful devil fruit. This just let me know that Blackbeard can’t beat shanks crew.
Maybe not in a direct confrontation. But we all know Blackbeard isn’t the type to think himself too good for underhand/dirty tactics
Is your next video going to be explaining the new devil fruits revealed in more detail
Also Law must have Conquerors, because if he doesn't then wow he is just really really strong
Could you imagine Bonney turning Kaido into a child and then getting Jotaro/Set beat-down by him.
Also haki comes two fold.
The physical expression (Armament, Analytical and Conquerer's) and passive (which is why those that may not be able to express it themselves properly can withstand bursts of conquerer's. It's how much ambition you have versus that that is expressed. Like how Luffy knocked out the New Fishman mooks and only caused Hoody to shutter, the blast wasn't at a high enough level to knock Hoody out).
At least that's how I've seen it.
Exciting times ahead for Law.
Mistborn!!!!???? What a wild coincidence. Been watching tekking for years and I finished that series and moved onto the way of kings. Same universe all tied together!
The reason that awakenings work on even top tier haki defense maybe because that they were concentrated attacks, while haki can usually defend against abilities the burst of will power at the exact moment of an awakened attack (which imply to be awakened due to haki of the user) is greater than the constant output of haki defense, just like the special beam cannon from DBZ.
I still think only those with conquerors can awaken
@@BlackangelKatakuri Could be, not sure yet though.
@@disasteromega Just cause only those with haki have been shown to use it in battle.
@@BlackangelKatakuri Law is still not a confirmed CoC user, and you know how it is with One Piece, until we have in panel or sbs confirmation we can never be sure, it is fun to speculate though.
@@disasteromega True but there's also the fact they have been haki users in general. That nullification did look alot like Shanks white conquerors though
I feel like the devil fruits have a lineage factor because they are fruits, and zoans are easiest to recreate because there are living creatures vegapunk can splice with the lineage factor in the parallel fruit. I think the origin of devil fruits is probably created by the shared haki of the living creatures on the one piece planet having collective ideas and concepts about things that exist. In this final saga of one piece we're probably going to see more characters mixing devil fruit abilities and haki- friendship being one of the core concepts for oda's story.
Another idea being devil fruits were created as a weapon by people and races on the one piece world (probably lunarians) to combat the people from the moon, using haki to bring concepts and creatures they interacted with on the planet into reality. Or in contrast- the moon people infected the plant life and natives of "earth" with their haki to terraform or something and the native one piece earthling's haki interacted with the process and complicated the devil fruit powers.
Devil fruits are created using soul manipulation. Think Big Mom's DF, but in reverse. "The Voice of all Things" means all things have a soul, so DFs work by taking the soul of something (like fire) and infusing it in a fruit. Vegapunk has a similar technology where he puts a DF in a weapon (basically infuses a soul into an object).
Haki is also soul manipulation but in yourself. Armament let's you touch logias because you touch their soul instead of whatever they're made of. You can't touch fire, but you can touch the soul of fire. Also explains why haki negates DFs. If your soul is strong enough, you can negate another soul influence on you.
ok, I have a very difficult question.
Imagine Kaido had a different devil fruit, a smile devil fruit, like the Gifters, maybe even a dragon fruit but the SMILE version. and Otama gives him a Kibi Dango, and also tells him to shake hands.
What do you think will happen??? (Considering Kaido's Strong Haki of course)
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It’s pronounced ‘Mel-burn’, and I was surprised that you actually kinda got it on the second try!
"Luffy expands inside of Blackbeard" 3:00
Yeah, I've seen plenty of those fanfics
If Barry is in MeleeBorn itd be great if he showed up in one of the Australian One Piece reviewers or their podcast
Finally a fellow Mistborn fan 🎉
I'm glad I was able to fast forward at the last second because I just bought the books. Idk what he said about it, but I didn't think I'd have to worry about some spoiler in a tekking vid 😂
noooo i hope he comes back
you make my day!!
Expanding on your idea of Im having a supreme Haki that he's been possibly using to control the Gorosei, it could be the opposite of Luffy's power to gain allies. If we think of Luffy as the one to break through enemy barriers and form a connection with someone who is originally cold or ruthless, like Katakuri or Kaido, then Im could be the opposite, where he can take good people or just anyone and dominate them with his will to force them to do his bidding. And so it would be the perfect fight because Luffy liberates people both physically and mentally/spiritually and Im enslaves people both physically and mentally/spiritually, both using Haki to break through that initial barrier
You could do an video about Conquerors Haki. Mostly about it's curent and future users. Most of curent users have an certain ambition to conquer something in some sence. Luffy wants to be king of the pirates, same as Kid, Kaido, Linlin. Zoro wants to be strongest swordsman, Katakuri strongest owerall etc. The ambition or lack of one can be used to discuss potential users CH and to explain why some powerfull characters doesent have it.