I'm almost 50 years old. I prefer jazz. This is the second video of yours I've watched today. Now I'm wondering if I can somehow incorporate fry screaming into a jazz trio, somehow.
im 15 and i say u should listen to mr. bungle, or any of mike pattons bands!! he takes a lot of elements from jazz aswell as metal and other genres. and hes veryyyy very talented at manipulating his voice
Just because i want to help you, I will share my take. You said something like i don't know how Chester Bennington made screams louder. Well It's because his technique incorporates a little bit of his true vocal chords as well, its not just a fry scream. It is still quieter than normal singing though. It took me a few years to go from what you do now to how Chester did it and you are on the right path so continue exploring your voice :). What i can say helps me a lot is watching a ton of live shows where you can here how singers' voice actually works. A lot of times studio versions just sound impossible to sing.
This is upper constriction/ "whisper scream" and NOT fry scream. It's ok to do for a little bit but real fry screams are just generally the better thing to do. They sound better, are better for your voice and are much louder. Actual fry screams are REALLY loud - much louder than typical talking and singing. You shouldn't rely on "mic control" or any cupping techniques. Also upper contriction doesn't really allow for any pitch to come through. In actual fry scream there is always a pitch involved - even if you distort your voice so much so that you can't actually percieve the pitch anymore and the scream becomes "pitchless". So whether or not you want your scream to be pitched, having that base tone involved is fundamental to every fry scream anyway.
@@say1074 That can be true...Some pitchless (and proper) techniques are a lot quieter, yet 80+ dbs is still plenty loud. What he is doing in this video definetly isn't that loud. Also some pitchless screams, that use a fundamental pitch but completely abandon it in irregular creaking are still extremely loud while basically being 'pitchless' Edit: A vocal coach that I heavily recommend when it comes to extremely detailed describtions of different techniques is Tony Linke. Anybody interested in screaming, who doesn't mind nerding out a little should check him out
@@sweetheartmashupsbabe cupping techniques aren't necessarily all bad. You should be able to scream without and most people tend to agree that they sound worse than "proper" techniques but if she likes it it's fine. You just really shouldn't depend on it
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I just recently learned how to fry scream and mine are pretty loud. I'm not really pushing that hard, they seem to just be naturally loud and I find myself typically turning down my mic.
i know that fry screams arent that loud but by me often the distortion the fry sound doesnt come that much out i mean its like im whistling and its sound like im whistling with the distortion its almost like the distortion doesnt really come up (out) and im pushing with my diaphragm but its like it doesnt get really through only a bit what can i do that the fry sound comes fully out and not cuts in half? and great video keep it up ;-)
Chester used fry, just not vocal fry, it's the same air pressure and speed of a vocal fry scream but he compressed the falsecords and arytenoids together lightly just to get some grit
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I'm almost 50 years old. I prefer jazz. This is the second video of yours I've watched today. Now I'm wondering if I can somehow incorporate fry screaming into a jazz trio, somehow.
You got this!!
Do it! Super curious what that combination would sound like
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im 15 and i say u should listen to mr. bungle, or any of mike pattons bands!! he takes a lot of elements from jazz aswell as metal and other genres. and hes veryyyy very talented at manipulating his voice
@@coldheartedkilla I saw Faith No More in concert back in the 90s. They put on a pretty good show.
Just because i want to help you, I will share my take. You said something like i don't know how Chester Bennington made screams louder. Well It's because his technique incorporates a little bit of his true vocal chords as well, its not just a fry scream. It is still quieter than normal singing though. It took me a few years to go from what you do now to how Chester did it and you are on the right path so continue exploring your voice :). What i can say helps me a lot is watching a ton of live shows where you can here how singers' voice actually works. A lot of times studio versions just sound impossible to sing.
Oh heck yes!
Awesome
Really good explanation, thanks
This is upper constriction/ "whisper scream" and NOT fry scream. It's ok to do for a little bit but real fry screams are just generally the better thing to do. They sound better, are better for your voice and are much louder. Actual fry screams are REALLY loud - much louder than typical talking and singing. You shouldn't rely on "mic control" or any cupping techniques.
Also upper contriction doesn't really allow for any pitch to come through. In actual fry scream there is always a pitch involved - even if you distort your voice so much so that you can't actually percieve the pitch anymore and the scream becomes "pitchless". So whether or not you want your scream to be pitched, having that base tone involved is fundamental to every fry scream anyway.
feel free to put a tutorial up on your page of your fry screams
Depends, pitchless might be quiet, pitched are loud af, mine are like 110-120db, while pitchless around 80
@@say1074 That can be true...Some pitchless (and proper) techniques are a lot quieter, yet 80+ dbs is still plenty loud. What he is doing in this video definetly isn't that loud. Also some pitchless screams, that use a fundamental pitch but completely abandon it in irregular creaking are still extremely loud while basically being 'pitchless'
Edit: A vocal coach that I heavily recommend when it comes to extremely detailed describtions of different techniques is Tony Linke. Anybody interested in screaming, who doesn't mind nerding out a little should check him out
Lacey sturme from Flyleaf said she uses the cupping technique in an interview tho
@@sweetheartmashupsbabe cupping techniques aren't necessarily all bad. You should be able to scream without and most people tend to agree that they sound worse than "proper" techniques but if she likes it it's fine. You just really shouldn't depend on it
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Thank you king! 😈
Excited to try more mic work bc I haven’t been able to get them as loud without it
nice tips, thank you
I just recently learned how to fry scream and mine are pretty loud. I'm not really pushing that hard, they seem to just be naturally loud and I find myself typically turning down my mic.
You should put out a video man. I for one won't bash ya. Let the world know what ya got man.
Thanks bro!
you’re the man frfr, appreciate the help a lot💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥
Golden!!!
i know that fry screams arent that loud but by me often the distortion the fry sound doesnt come that much out i mean its like im whistling and its sound like im whistling with the distortion its almost like the distortion doesnt really come up (out) and im pushing with my diaphragm but its like it doesnt get really through only a bit what can i do that the fry sound comes fully out and not cuts in half?
and great video keep it up ;-)
Can I start to learn to scream o sing metal even if I never learn basic technique of singing?
did u just have the audacity to say c.b. used fry screams!? my guy, just plain no lol
what's your take?
Chester used fry, just not vocal fry, it's the same air pressure and speed of a vocal fry scream but he compressed the falsecords and arytenoids together lightly just to get some grit
lol he is allowed to share his opinion on his incredibly helpful video