Vocal Fry & Fry Screaming Relationship. NOT What You'd Expect! (How to Get Into A Solid Fry Scream)
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Is there a useful relationship between vocal fry and fry screaming? YES there is! ...But it might not be what you'd expect. I get this sort of question a lot from first time private students as well as general messages and inquiries.
Vocal fry is a gateway to all sorts of amazing vocal sounds and sensations if you know how to use it correctly AND... The big one: How to combine it with other techniques and sensations! In this video, I show you exactly how to make good use of vocal fry while also getting rid of some of the confusion surrounding FRY... and fry SCREAMING. I hope you like the new lesson!
If I’m being honest with you, Chris: Out of all the vocal teachers on RUclips, you are probably the only one whom I’ve listened to and actually improved my singing. I’d only expect this kind of information on a $30/month course, and you give it absolutely freely. I’ve been genuinely inspired and encouraged to practice everyday. I still thank God for the day I found your channel- thank u Chris, I won’t fail to acknowledge you when I become famous, I promise😊🙏🏻🥀
LOVE seeing comments like this... thanks so much!! :)
Same for me he is a fucking legend
Same Chris is the real MVP and 🐐
Do you have any content Sharon? I'd love to check out your work if you have any
@@samueljohnson9566 not as of yet, sorry. I'm still working on myself; I'm a bit of a perfectionist, you know?😅
Fry screaming is a term I introduced in 2004. It is a non-periodic pulse register only like vocal fry in speech science because of its aperiodicity BUT VERY DIFFERENT because there is NO engagement of the aryepiglottic folds or false cords. Fry screaming is achieved ONLY by the engagement of the vocal ligament (mode 2) without the weight of additional muscular layers in the folds. The huge advantage of acquiring this coordination is the 5-10k hertz capability which is perceptualy much louder without the effort. I propose that this is because too much vocal fold mass/weight cannot pulse fast enough to create these higher partials. Another huge advantage to fry screaming is the seamless transition between pitch and noise. This is because everything occurs at the true fold source without constriction allowing more compelling resonating strategies. Constriction prevents resonance in the posterior vocal tract. The source of the noise is from the aryepiglottic folds colliding with the epiglottis- there is a big adjustment to remove and replace noise within a lyric. It is not incorrect if done with a stability between subglottal pressure and laryngeal position, but I have observed is def not sustainable for lighter voices. It's also harder to mix in a track without a ton of EQ.
False cord screaming is a term I made up, which refers exclusively to constriction. There is also Hybrid, the term I use to describe when voice is making pitch in the anterior (front) portion of the folds mixed with fry in the posterior portion. Hybrid sounds like false cord but without the heavy lifting. Many artists have moved to this strategy by better coordination inspired by a need for heavy touring sustainability. The 4th strategy I labeled as "Death" because in the early millennium, bands tribalized sub genres of metal and that sound, comprising of blasts of air combined with a depressed laryngeal posture (ie Cookie Monster) Never meant to compartmentalize- I have observed that learning fry screaming and hybrid first will make the constriction strategies more sustainable. I love your vids- just thought I might clarify any confusion here🤘🏻
WOW!! Thanks for this Melissa! And thanks for watching some of my videos! I'd love to talk with you further sometime if you're up for it! chris@mymusicalvoice.com
OMG it's Melissa Cross!!!
Dude…. Wow.
Holy shit its the OG
Scream royalty has spoken. ALL HAIL THE CROSS!!!!
I get SO much satisfaction when I hear you scream in your singing. I hope to learn to do this someday 🙌🏻
man please reword that
In other words... SHANANANANANAANEEEEE NEEEE! I WANNA EAR YOU SCREAAAAAM 🗣🗣🗣
Same!
You'll get it if you practice enough. Some people pick it up super quick. For me it took years to get it down now im learning new methods so I can take better care of my voice
as a singer and voice teacher myself this is HANDS DOWN the best video I have seen about vocal fry and its relationship with fry screams. I have a neurological voice disorder called Spasmodic Dysphonia so for me my vocal fry is inaccessible when the "supraglottal squeeze" kicks in due to having the issue but on good days I can relax my voice down into the vocal fry register and can get a little fry scream going and it seems its getting more and more consistent as the days goes by. I have no issues with doing distortions, arynetoid distortions, even false folds screams but the fry scream always got me and I never saw any videos on RUclips that personally helped me except your videos including this one so Thank you so much for putting out such great contents for all of us.
Keep these amazing videos coming! bless you Chris! like 486 from me 🙏👍👍😀😀
Thanks for the story and your comment... and for your viewing support and likes :) !!
Listening to people like Chris and some other artists being honest about screaming and the growth and struggle is so reassuring...
I've been trying this technique for 4 months now, and I've just learnt, right now in my room, how to make this sound efficient, thanks to this video! THANKS TO YOU! Now I need to practice more to make this work on various pitches and keeping it in control, but I'm not worried because I'm buying your course for this, definitely. Best voice teacher on RUclips.
Awesome! See you in the course!! Thanks for the great comment and for your engagement this far along!
“Where is the sun?” I can’t see it either. There must be a *Shadow on the Sun.*
YES YES
This is the first vocal coach video I have seen anywhere that accurately shows how sing or scream and how to transition. Subscribed instantly!
Thanks for the sub!! :)
1:15
Chris: where is the SUUUUUUUUUUUN
Captions: [Applause]
14:25 Oh great mr. Magician Liepe, give me the great gift of divine vocals
hehe... DONE :)
Theres no person that explains better than this guy, congrats dude, you are a pretty inteligent person cause you know how to explain well such a difficult topic
Thanks so much... glad my approach resonates with you!
THIS is sooooo useful, I've been trying fry vocal/scream for like 2-3 days now. been watching many vids yet ain't help mine that much, but this one!, I'll keep continue!
gosh very helpful but also the fact that this is just a full quarter of an hour of making the weirdest noises i love it so much
I've always been able to do vocal fry. Did it when I was a kid to annoy my sister. Great stuff sir.
Chris, you're probably hands-down the single best vocal coach on RUclips. Just ONE of your videos took me from a pretty decent vocal range to breaking into the over two octave range. I love how much fun you seem to be having with all of it, too!
May you get EVERY blessing you deserve, brother!
I learn false chord in one day with your tutorial now i able to do fry also
This is my comment under another comment here.
Figuring out that you should not be much louder than your speaking voice is another game changer. You can be louder sometims with some screams, but even the most brutal can be done quietly. It is how you don't screw up your voice long term. I was also getting major headaches from too much pressure from overprojecting. If anyone is struggling with high pitched scream sounds, like Black Metal specifically, it is done with the slightest pressure in comparison to the mid and low screams. I thought I could not do them since I could only do them quiet. And if anyone does not believe me they can go watch Randy from Lamb of God sing Omerta live. Pay attention to his speaking voice volume, and then his screams, especially the high ones. Done with very little pressure, and the mic and processing does the rest, even live audio, but especially the final product for an album.
SO right on!
You’re just amazing, I’ve been watching your videos like for a year and half and my singing has improved so freaking much. I owe it all to you man!
Great to hear!
Chris, your technique tips have given me back my confidence as a vocalist.
I have stopped trying to progress for about six years due to frustration with mix/ belting.
I have simply skipped over how to do it while practising the growling/ fry techniques you tought in other videos. It is so elating to finally get back into the gam eagain. I have missed this so much.
I want to thank you for all of this. Once I am satisfied, I will probably record a video and send it your way.
All the best mate.
This is THE video my 2019/2020 self needed. I needed to clear this whole thing up and you've allowed me to do that intellectually. Now, I gotta go upset my neighbors. ✌️
Awesome!
It makes such a difference betwen your free videos and all the other content on youtube (which will lead us to paid courses). You inspire me and I've been practicing every day since I found your channel thanks to a friend of mine. Thank you, Chris. You are the best.
Random thought... if a person from France uses vocal fry, would it be considered a French fry? 🤔
Sure
HAHAHAHAHA
Yes
Always.
If a person from the UK uses vocal fry, does it become vocal chip?
This guy is one of the best free coaches. Literally giving out million dollar information out. So we got to get him those views and get him his money people!
man i need to say your lessons are so great. increase my vocals and this vocal fry is something surreal , have help me too much... thank you to share this program with all of us
You’re so welcome!
I'm sooooo happy because he is the First guy who finally can explain me how screaming is goin! Now i'm motivated to learn it... thank you for your Videos, thry will change my live !
Rock on!
Starting back gigging soon after nearly two a half years and this is great info to help with the more belty songs!
Dude, I keep repeating at 11:25
Your voice sounded absolutely fantastic there, I hear a little bit of all my favorite singers in it 🤘
:)
megadeth
Watching you sing, then watching you analyses your wave file has been vary helpful! It would be great if you made more videos using this format, thanks!!!
This is good to know as far as how this format works for you! I'll definitely do more of this!
Thanks a lot Chris, i learned to manipulate my voice all by myself. Mainly by trying to impersonating Videogame characters and giving a pleasend experienece as a DnD DM. And your tutorials give me the same sensation as learning to manipulate my voice without any "goal". And now, that i am learning to sing/shout/growl/whatever i really benefit from your videos.
My suggestion is to really get the feel of Fry Distortion first. Never push, you will hurt your vocals. Probably will need to cough after an irritation in the back of your throat, that shouldn't happen. Once you get that feel, you will have your quite fry scream, then you could get louder with your support. I've used multiple videos to help get the hang of it, definitely takes time. Chris Liepe, amazing job with what you do!
This video answered questions I've had for literally 15 years.
Thank you.
Nice
I've gotta say you nailed the pitch for "exercises that won't annoy your neighbors". Gotta go check that out now! :)
oh good!
I actually nodded along as if he was personally giving me a lesson
That’s great! Glad it connected with you!
You are a insanely good teacher
And you managed to find where the sun hit..? Wonderful work, blessings.
Best vid I've seen on the subject 'til now. Thanks dude! Very insightful
"where is the sUUUUUUUUN" :D
Found this extremely enlightening thanks so much!
You're so welcome!
Chris! You gotta do a HOW TO SING LIKE JONATHAN DAVIS OF KORN!
THIS
YESS PLS
Easy! Get spanked by your daddy, grab a mic and whine about it til your old 🤣🤣🤣
Ps - Don't forget to cry at the end of the song!
@@vishnualcyone9170 😆
My dude! Oh yes, I'm here for the discourse as well as the psychoaudiology. :)
Man, I’ve been doing metal vocals for about 16 years, I do amazing false chords, but for all of these years I could never get the hang of fry screaming. For some reason I always tense up to much.
Best way I can describe what you're talking about; sing a normal note and use the false chord rumble to ride the wave of sound. Treat it like a soft passenger. Like catching an egg in your hand. Finesse will keep you on top of the wave. I did it on accident when I was younger and I kept doing it and I can jump into a piercer any time I want no lead up.
I watched another video where you take our faces off. lol. Combine that and you get more finesse. Makes me laugh when singers mutate and twist their faces into demons. It looks cool I guess but it will work out better if you don't. Honestly it looks pretty cool when you can scream well without showing it in your face. People look at you like "where the heck is that coming from?"
I was trying to sing crawling and this is the perfect video
Same
You are 1000% my favorite & I have ACTUALLY been able to learn from you. Unfortunately this is the only video I havent been able to follow /: trying to do a fry while holding back air just makes me feel like im going to burp/throw up? I wish you could help me, this is where I seriously struggle most/:
It can take some time to place the sensations high enough! It can be TOUGH! Have you considered taking my course on aggressive singing? www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack/
Definitely going to! Thanks so much for the reply. You're amazing! I'm excited to learn from you & thank you so much for everything you do
Brilliant lesson, thanks Chris. Always informative and always engaging.
In my experience, there is no isolated fry scream or false cord scream, you're always vibrating your false cord AND the back of your throat (which generates the fry).
Sometimes you're giving more emphasis to the false cord and sometimes more to the back of the throat. For example, it's easy to do a low false cord scream, but its nearly impossible to get a decent high false cord scream...
That's what made me confused about screaming. While I was trying to isolate either false cord or fry, I was garbage, I was pushing my throat. Once I realized that it's impossible to isolate one from another, I became a legend in a few weeks...
ABSOLUTELY the correct way to look at this! I talk about this exact mindset you're sharing in many of my other screaming videos. There's not a REAL delineation. It's all the same vocal tract! :)
Figuring out that you should bot be much louder than your speaking voice is another game changer. You can be louder sometims with some screams, but even the most brutal can be done quietly. It is how you don't screw up your voice long term. I was also getting major headaches from too much pressure from overprojecting. If anyone is struggling with high pitched scream sounds, like Black Metal specifically, it is done with the slightest pressure in comparison the the mid and low screams. I thought I could not do them since I could only do them quiet. And if anyone does not believe me they can go watch Randy from Lamb of God sing Omerta live. Pay attention to his speaking voice volume, and then his screams, especially the high ones. Done with very little pressure, and the mic and processing does the rest, even live audio.
@@vaderguitarplayer Interesting - I'll keep that in mind. I imagine there's also some development of musculature that needs to happen, through exercise. As in, even if you got it right, technically, the first time, it would still sound a bit meek, because you haven't practiced those muscles enough?
Great addendum to the video. Based on what you're saying, that's where a lot of pain comes from, when you try to raw scream, for the first time, cause you're ramming into the pure false cords, with no support.
@@vaderguitarplayer i am getting pretty decent at those screams around Bb4-D5, and you’re absolutely right. It was so quiet that i kept pushing more and my voice was cracking! It wasn’t until i chilled out and did what *felt* and *sounded* good that i started making progress. My clean belts are still shouty, but at least i’m doing the most dangerous thing, screaming, correctly!
So this video was a game changer for me. This is the missing link ive been looking for. Thanks
You're welcome!
Hey was able to to it!
Great video, Chris. You cleared some stuff up for me. Very insightful.
Glad it helped!
I can't thank you enough. I'm still working on my distortion technique but that part was not adding up.
I think it would be amazing if you did a video on the vocalist of the band Movements!
Great idea!
11:36 channeling inner Tyler Joseph
3 years late to the party... but 11:40 is what I want to be able to do. Awesome sound, nailing it without any fumbling or stumbling :)
I went from being able to do fry screams but since I got really good at false chords, (I don't get throat pain ever just a loss of breath), I can't get it down.
Good thing I finished the video.
You are so good in teaching this stuff 👍
Thank you for teaching me
Great research!
Troppo bravo Chris... nessuno in giro per la rete ha spiegato mai queste differenze, facendole anche "ascoltare" . Di solito parlano, parlano ma non fanno "sentire" come funziona.
Thank you!
Chris e' bravo ma visto che sei italiana cerca Matteo Ratti su youtube... Ti piacera'!
@@edonismeve ma grazie! cercherò. Tengo questi riferimenti.
Matteo Ratti è scandaloso. Cercati Michele Luppi :) Mr Pig, Vision Divine, Secret Sphere , Michele luppi band , White snake
One day I’ll get it. I feel like aggressive singing is much harder as a female 😭.
Yes absolutely!
Hey Chris, just wanted to give your a big thanks for all your work! I am still miles apart from the vocals I wanna achieve one day, but that's on my part and partly due to the fact that a lot of the vocalists I like engage in unhealthy techniques; so that's that. Nonetheless, your videos brought me a bunch of steps closers to achieving that goal. Keep up the great work!
You're so welcome! Glad it has helped!
Very cool!
Tis is in the sky mate!!
10:55 - me having just woken up on a late December Monday morning
I keep trying that vocal fry where you tighten up that low frog-like growl, but it just hurts my throat. Imma try tomorrow with a fresher voice.
Whoa this video made so much sense and was actually helpful. Thank you!!!
FINALLY, AFTER SO MANY ATTEMPTS TO COMPREHEND WHATS GOING ON.
I did a note, added fry, added power, went back to the note to add it back - BOOM, MY FIRST FRY.. uhm fry... note? ;D
Alternate Title: How to burp, but musically.
You're the best Chris!!!
Well, Predator is really good in singing fry :D
Excellent - Im still taking the class with chris - great great vocal artist - coach!!!
Wonderful!
How is it that when I am stuck on a certain thing, you appear to have a 15mins long video covering every aspect of that.
Anyway thanks a lot Chris!
Chris, thank you SO MUCH for this !
Thank you man for sharing this. This is very very interesting for me. Those examples will help me more to make progress. Beautiful. 👍🙂🎶👌 I will watch the video several times to get all the juice...
Nice
I love these videos, thanks for putting them out there!
Glad you like them!
*When i stay in bed all day waking up at 9pm*
10:54
I got you’re own ad... on you’re own video lol
ugh... still trying to solve this
This was so helpful, thanks Chris!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Chris.
So welcome!
So, first step: grudge
Second step: TOGETHAAAAAAAAAAA, WE WILL DEVOURRRRRRRRRR THE VERYYYYYYYYYYYYY... GOOOOODSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Third step: Engage toilet sounds
Final step: Mess around a bunch and incorporate ALL of that into singing!
Fire video after fire video 👌🏻🔥
Obrigado, careca do Brazzers!
High scream sounded quite a lot like Tyler from ToP, nice :)
These videos have really made me interested in developing my fry and scream. But I still sound like emperor palpatine… “DO IT!!”
I’m scared to ask …. Where is the sun? 😳
Seriously though, I just learned how to use my fry vocal and this just taught me how to extend my range. A goal I have been after for a while. Awesome video. Thank you so so much!!!
GREATEST TEACHER ONTHETUBE
Thanks so much!
@@chrisliepe no prob you And marsvocals are Def The Best ! Also Roger love is Pretty Good on mixed voice
Dude please keep making content. You are fucking awesome!
I can do the fry easily on the inhale, but not exhale.
Thanks for the explanation Chris. Is this how Jens Kidman gets his tone?
Yes!
@@chrisliepe Thanks Chris!
Please do an reaction or an how to sing of Lauri Ylönen of The rasmus
Hi Chris! Could you maybe analyze the singing style of Bullys Alicia Bognanno? Espeically her very distorted vocals (ex. the song Bully)
This video helped me understand the principle more than any other, but I still can't do it. I _think_ I'm getting close, but it hurts and I start to cough, and I've always been told that if it hurts you're doing it wrong. I still don't get why it's not clicking for me.
You might be ready for this? www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack
I feel tickled in my false cord area sometimes, what would be the cause of that? Thank you.
that might be because you are using too much air or too much tension. Remember that everything should be loose!
i was actually looking for more ways to annoy my neighbors so while this is great content it's not really forwarding my immediate goals
haha... Man... I feel like this could get pretty bad for the neighbors. Just make sure you do it over and over again with varying intestines... WHERE IS THE SUUUNNNNN... and do it on a sunny day! That'll get 'em :)
@@chrisliepe i sang for years, had natural projection, nice mid bass/baritone, great timbre (barbershop quartet in high school and full band geek through most of school)...got physically sidelined little over three years ago, lost everything due to two crippling injuries within a few months, so I'm working with 3/4 or 2/3 actual original diaphragm structure, but honestly even when I was practicing and pushing my range I am one of those that always blow their voice out even just having a good time in the audience at a show, so I'm pretty sure that once I am back to where I can actually generate the physical support to do what I need to that I'll be seeking professional guidance. That's part the reason I snark around on YT; I feel like IG is a place where people I want to learn from show off but YT has consistently been where I can actually find a high number of people willing to flex their skills as well as teach them for money. I've said for years that it's a new business model and actually the gig economy is pretty great when you don't have to give 97% to a record company for the first three records...and it's only diversifying and the tools for self enablement improving.
Always great examples which leave room for combinations of other elements. 👍 Believe or not it helped me to understand some of classical heavy metal vocals through your videos even you show some other techniques. For a long period I didn't understand e.g. vocal fry and it can add original sound to heavy metal singing in order one to build hisown style. Could you do Blackie Lawless' vocal analysis, he has some raspy and unique vocals that would be hardly compared 'looks like'. Thank you! 🤘👍💥
Glad it was helpful, and great suggestion!
I can do vocal fry and I (think I) can engage my false cords at the same time but it doesn’t make that distorted sound. It just sounds like a higher pitched vocal fry. And when I try to add more compression it starts to feel uncomfortable. What am I doing wrong? I have the same problem with my vocal break. I can get the yodel but if I don’t hit it just right it can irritate my throat. I have your course and it’s helping me understand my anatomy a lot better! But still having these issues.
I never really tried this in context. I can slide through my passage easily with this method, but it sounds a bit weak when I listen back. Talking about singing here, not screaming yet.
nice... keep it up!
Sinatra video?
Are there any exercises that help straighten vocal fry/make it beefier and sharper without ruining the voice?
You actually want to focus on developing COMPRESSION rather than FRY... Compression is done with the false cords and can be way more powerful that raw fry.
And I have tons of videos on how to develop compression, but this may be of more interest to you: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack
Thank you!
You're welcome!
All that talk on fry screams made me crave ice cream.
oh no, screaming does not hurt at all if you know how to do it. Screaming is perfect coordination and not as loud as most people think. When I do fry screams I even have to go closer to the mic.
Haha
I read this to the tune of "Y'all all get that same flow, I got that insane flow"