“This video will explain the confusion….” The very first clip of your video is adding to the confusion. That clip is not the launch of Oresnik. It’s a carrier rocket transporting supplies to the ISS.
@@harshitjha6605 Ursula wasn't wrong. Russia's original stock did indeed finish. But Ursula forgot that there's a thing called wartime production, LOL!
Jets in Ukrainian airports are constantly moved around, which explains why Russia has constantly failed in targeting them on the ground. Then, simple buildings and infrastructure in airports would be pointless to target
You're not the first to make this mistake Binkov, you're in good company (see millennium 7s latest) the opening visual of the rocket in-flight is no longer thought to be Oreshnik, it's a cargo rocket heading for the I.S.S. launched from the same site some time later.
1. There is no way you can know how much Russia is paying for producing "Oreshnik" missile. 2. Video of missile flying is Soyuz not Oreshnik. 3. You can't be serious thinking to estimate how many of these missiles Russia has and how quick they can produce more. Video is full of half information and speculation.
@ВикторФирсов-е9ф And I bet there's a CNN version, a MSNBC, a FOX, an Economist version, a WSJ version, and a NYT version of how he/she/it/they/them arrived at the estimates. For example, it's quite frequent that dead generals magically appear alive 2 months after their reported deaths. Epic.
You claim that it is too expensive? Let's see the numbers; let's say it costs 20 million $ per missile. If it takes out only one F-16 on the ground, it has been paid off. How many these are needed to put the whole airbase out of service? Let's say 10. That is 200 million. What is an alternative? Fly with escadrile of SU-57 and TU-22 which would need to fire at least 100 conventional missiles to overcome airbase defenses and do some damage (it still might not be enough!), while risking that at least few aircrafts being lost due to SAM action. How much would that operation cost? And without any guarantee in success. In fact, Oreshnik, if its price is 20 million, is the way cheapest weapon for its potential destruction effect.
Add another 10^ to your vector cost and you might be on something. Still it offers less granularity in your response. I do somewhat second your point tho.
@@real_andrii First of all, after launch, noone can tell what is a target. So, any airbase can be. Not only in Ukraine but in the whole Europe. Basically, you need to fly with all airplanes in all airbases at once and be in the air within 15 minutes of launch detection in order to save those assets. In other words, mission impossible.
I was astounded when I heard that it is said to fly over 3 kilometers per second. Right now I need about an hour for my daily commute (one way) of 13 km through the city. If I somehow were attached to that missile (of course it's fiction and I know that's not how it works) I could make that commute in just 4 SECONDS. That's pretty much teleportation.
@@CS-mr3sj the diffrence is that your icbms need to slow down to a much slower speed before Terminal Phase where the warheads get deployed but this one never slows down even when deploying warheads... It also has No RCS because of the super thick and dense Plasma Cloud around the warheads which eats Up all Radar beams and makes those Things invisible for all Air defence or missile defence systems... The russians somehow managed to guide those warheads with that Plasmacloud around IT which normaly jams every guidance systems... Also those missiles are normaly area saturation weapons but this one was accurate! All groups of subminitions Hit there target only one small groupe missed... Also Ukraine got every piece of Air defence systems from small to big Systems that Nato and US has in there Katalog, got warned days before the Attack and still could not shoot down one single Thing... The Damage that was claimed to be small by UA is bullshit... The Factory is build with deep Levels that Go Underground Like a Bunker and the russians new it because that Factory got build by soviet Union... And If there would be "No siginificant Damage" why dont Just Show Pictures from INSIDE and How the Levels Underground Look..???😂 They only showed bad photoshopped Satellite Photos of the Roofs😂 This missile is Something new you can See it in the footage how those Things warheads Look in Impact...that could be theoreticly the First use of a Plasma weapon in human History..
When you are travelling at 3.4km/s, explosives are more of a complication than great addition as everything in it's path becomes frag until all that kinetic energy is gone - at such speeds a tungsten rod of the same weight would contain more energy in kinetic form than any explosives of equal weight would provide. These are not test munitions, they are working as designed and leave 36 holes through everything in their path.
Great video, clear unbiased,and presented great with all info currently at hand, i look forward to all of your hard work! And F@$K all the haters! Keep up the great work, and keep making videos, it may not be what everyone wants to hear but the Truth rarely is
@@mikevincek528 ok but what was baised? What was copium? I keep seeing these comments but what specifically are you talking about? At this point I am just honestly interested, make an argument don't just say fake! That makes me think it is even more real, what a crazy amount of objections to this video without any arguments?
Just because it's too expensive for 99% of possible targets doesn't mean that taking out the 1% of high-value targets isn't meaningful. Even taking out something like a Patriot battery can be worth it in some situations, despite the missile costing 10x the target, for example if it opens the way for other attacks. The main thing is that it is ADDITIONAL FIREPOWER on top of everything else Russia has, with a lot of reach.
From what I can pick up from the fence is that this video has half info and half speculation, even the first clip showing a rocket is not the same as the missile being mentioned
Hazel missile hit a old russian icbm factory, muti level over a about 1 mile site. Without seeing the damage we don't know what hazel can do. Odd Ukraine not showing us, unless its bad news.
@@danburke6568 there are videos of the damage form civilians. Your not looking hard enough. One said floors were destroyed down to the 3rd underground floor
with regards it being expensive again he get this wrong. One of these missiles costs about $40 million. Yes that's expensive. Now drop this one an airbase and even if one warhead destroys just one fighter jet or the radar and control centre there's your money back right there without even counting the damage done by the other 35 warheads. this weapon is capable of doing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage to a NATO airbase. I would argue that this weapon is probably the best bang for buck weapon on the planet if you exclude nukes
MOAB says no. According to the Air Force, it only costs $170.000 , highest estimate is $16m. Oreshkin can still be intercepted in its earlier stages as well, when it is both slower and more predictable. NATO, however, will always have air supremacy in a hot war against Russia.
@@YSKWatch I suppose so, but that's still nowhere close to $40m Especially when you realize the US has over 12 times the military budget of Russia It's also more accurate, directly targeted, and proven in combat.
@@Bacontruffle 1 plane to deliver, few others to protect it, awacs, maybe tanker, delivery speed less than mach 2 while ukr report that rus' hit at 11 to 11.4 mach. the plane might not pass the air defense.
if it really costs 10 million $ as you estimate then it is pretty much a dirt cheap options for Russia based on what it achieves a fighter jet with its' price cannot strike thousands of kilometers away in a few minutes while completely avoiding air defenses Oreshnik is just a toy, Russia has thee Sarmat active since 2023, this is a FOBS capable (which means it gets into orbit) missile with 3 Avangard glide vehicles about 3tons heavy each, even without nukes, 3 tons of tungsten at Mach 15 is 9.3 tons of TNT in kinetic energy (3 of them are 29tons, 15Mach is a reduced speed after a long glide from 23Mach) a FOBS weapon completely ignores the existing anti-ICBM weapons by flying at a very low altitude and around the globe from the south pole Such a weapon can target aircraft carriers, if not when on the move then when they are at port for maintenance, bombers like the B2 (limited numbers, long repairs, super expensive) and early warning facilities that are used against conventional ICBMs This means that Russia has the capability, at the moment and not in the future, to take out some very expensive assets without starting a nuclear war, not only in Europe with the Oreshnik but anywhere on the planet
The rs-26 was never in production. This missile is more like a R-30 bulava but a ground launched missile. This missile is in serial production. This sounds like ISW garbage. It doesn't work and is useless. Lol
It's not an icbm. It's an IRBM intermediate range ballistic missile. It can only target within 600-3400 miles. Although its range is shorter than the ICBM,it still can target any country in europe
14:52 not ver usecful? Imagine what will happend when they move 2 or 3 near ukraine and send it to f16 bases? F16 bases will be outside ukraine? good luck with that....
what they have in common is that they haven't been widely used or at all until now this also means that Russia can escalate by having thing under the carpet or in their sleeve
So I usually don't comment on videos, I did today and probably won't again. There is a lot of comments about this being COPE and untrue. What exactly did he say that was untrue? Or coping?
I think that the comments which say that this video is cope and untrue are talking about the video saying that this missile has no real function against Ukraine. The missile is basically not able to be intercepted, but was inert and did very little damage to the factory, while costing Russia a fortune. Ballistic missiles are very effective delivery systems for nuclear weapons, but are a very inefficient way of delivering conventional explosives, or no explosives as was likely in this case. Russian bots say that these facts are untrue and that the West is just trying to cope with Russia's terrifying superiority, in the hope that if you lie constantly very loudly then fools will believe you. All the best. 👍
@@ivancho5854 dude thank you! So I'm not crazy here. I don't have a dog in this fight and whether it is or isn't a wunderwaffen doesn't affect me. Just caught off guard by the inordinate amount of push back here.
There wasnt anything, generally false in the video; its just a bit of nothingburger. There are no targets worth such missile in ukraine and everyone knows this; it was just a clickbait title, which triggered most of the people here. Go watch milennium 7 history, where he elaborates further about this missile and its possible strategic capabilities. Ivancho5854 below is wrong; since this system is very strategic, not for ukraine, but for nato or europe; in short 3-5 of these missiles could knock a well defended airbase for MONTHS. in a matter of minutes; Where otherwise you would need 100s or more missiles, which is way more expensive both in work-hours and money-hours. Since you HAVE to overwhelm air defense systems, so you are forced to use lots of missiles. So in reality it is a "game changer" in terms of denying airbases or other significant targets if the war breaks out with nato countries, but the escalation would quickly lead us to nuclear war so in sense this missile is a game changer and not. The clickbait title wasnt wrong; since it truly changes absolutely nothing in ukraine, there are nearly 0 high value targets worth such costs in ukraine, but in nato v russia war, there would be plenty of worthwhile targets.
The point of the attack was not damage. It was a reality check - "these are weapons that can carry nuclear weapons and you have zero capability to stop them" Let's put it in perspective. If Russia targeted a city with 1 MIRV Oreshnik with 6 missiles at mach 10 there is no system on Eartht that would prevent that attack. We (in the West) are constantly told our technology is better and our anti air intercepts 85-90% of missiles... it's just simply not true. In the Oreshnik attack you can count each missile in slow motion 36/36 got through. Iran also showed that the Iron Dome/arrow cannot stop their missiles either. In this conflict many myths have been shattered... The US has had multiple failures in testing hypersonic. Without missiles the same speed as their opponents the margin of era on intercept is so small it's basically impossible.
@@Writeous0ne this. Also, Moscow felt they needed to send this message to the west because the US and UK missile platforms attacking targets inside Russia require western input to function-for example, the UK’s stormshadow missile platform uses an English interface and contains proprietary code considered TS; therefore, it’s UK contractors and/or Special OPs units operating these batteries on behalf of the Ukrainian military. Meanwhile, the US provided HMARS missile uses GPS guidance to navigate to and hit its target, and therefore relies on US satellites for this function. In conclusion, it goes without saying that our level of involvement in the operation of these weapon systems are tantamount to a declaration of war.
"Here is what Russia can do with this missile if it sends thousands of them at once at countries they're not even at war with" Okay buddy. If Russia didn't want explosions in their border regions then they probably shouldn't have invaded their neighbor. If the only defense they have is the threat of nuclear escalation then they stand to lose at every level the game is played at. This is both a show of force and an admission of ineptitude. They will come to the table soon with favorable terms to Ukraine because they have thus far been unwilling to bleed at home. But they will continue to bleed at home because they have no defense. They achieved their war goals in the first month of the war and everything since then has been them culling their own youth in trenches via $100 drones with explosives strapped to them. Now they spend $10 million for a showpony. Probably time to call it a day.
@@Bern_il_Cinq Dream on, Russia is taking hundreds of miles of land at the moment, and they will not even talk all the while Zelensky is there, you are ill informed if you think Russia are doing badly
Putin just sent a ridiculously expensive message that the west seems hell-bent on ignoring….. don’t keep pushing towards World War III because they will eventually get it and nobody wants that
Haven't seen one picture of the impact sites yet and I've looked all over the net. Anyone else find them? It's curious, even when just a kinetic head was used.
I watched 2 interviews. One woman who worked there went back and said it’s absolutely just dust left. I thought maybe she is exaggerating, but another person stated something similar that the facility was completely destroyed.
@@juliusfucik4011 I’m not making a point against binkof one bit; yes I’m aware of his presentation style. In fact out of all the videos using that clip binkof is the only one saying ‘possible’ all the other channels are just rolling with it.
Stage 1: We say nothing is going to happen. Stage 2: We say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it. Stage 3: We say maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do. Stage 4: We say maybe there was something, but it's too late now. I assume we are on stage 2
It is true that Ukraine does not need to counter this missile: its usage was a message for the West, not Ukraine. Using Ukraine as a testing ground was not provocative, a pure demonstration, unlike if the Oreshnik had been used on a US base in NATO (to counter ATACMs usage against Russia) or a UK target (Stormshadows). In fact, it was a message to the West that the West should leave Ukraine to fight on Ukrainian territory, where it is losing fast, hence the Western escalation of missile strikes in Russia.
Western “escalation” by allowing Ukraine to properly defend itself, as opposed to the totally innocent action of Russia invading Ukraine in the first place. The Oreshnik is typical Russian saber rattling and nothing more. Russia is fighting at full effort in Ukraine and it is using theatrics to deter Ukraine’s supporters
Similar how like all of Yuzhmash was " completely destroyed" ? And 3000 generals of NATO perished? But satellites show a different story Russian bots man🤣🤣🤣
What satellite images? Are you talking about those blurry frames with 144p quality? Where is the video from the ground? Who else is a bot here, we need to think about it🤔
Maybe he's not into punching down. Russia can't even make stealth fighters and now relies on North Korea. It's hard to make fun of a country that pathetic.
@@TheNefastorWhy do they need stealth fighters? And increasing cooperation with NK keeps SK somewhat distant from the war and gives you more shells. What's wrong with that?
@@TheNefastor That's not the purpose. Only if you also have a stealth recon unit. They are not for low heights bombing. Otherwise any other guided projectile does the same job
The only thing not mentioned is above mach 10 it becomes a kinetic weapon (turns the materials of the missile and the hit area into explosives). Very good video.
Millennium will be angry yet again slapping his hands to his forehead if he sees this because his conjecture is that it is an SLBM redesigned to become Hazel missile.
How and why he should be angry? Did you even watch this video? There was absolutely NOTHING binkov stated which would contradict milennium. This missile is not intended for ukraine it was a political move and absolutely everything milennium stated still apply; throwing 50-100 million to completely disable an airbase for a few months is a pricey, but strategically significant capability to have. And everyone from the first day knew, this was a political showing, not something they would EVER need in ukraine.
Regardless if you think this is propoganda or not, at least this video and the comments show you need to doubt everything you see regarding war. Each side will do what they can to push their information, especially in this era.
May i just say that many people are talking about the Oreshnik like actual weapon , forgeting that it is an experimental and who knows what end product will be, and what materials, tactics, munitions or whatsoever they wanted to test here...
@@ctrlaltdebug ruclips.net/video/yUfm6AbtJ0g/видео.html here is a discussion about long range and short range missiles. discussion that the media picksup what long range is and what really long range is. In the catogory ATACMS is the 300 km variant it is believe to be a long range missile. But, Arms control definitions is : < 1000 km is considered short range. 1000 - 5500 Km = Intermediate range. > 5500 km long range
Careful, don't OD on copium. I enjoy putting misinformed people like you in your place. That (ICBM) missile destroyed an enormous mfg. and weapons facility, much of it was underground. If the Ukes are correct that the damage was negligible, as they, the bullsh****s claim, then why don't they put out any video to demonstrate that? Also, it was 1959 when the Soviets orbited the earth while our (US) rockets were blowing up on the launch pad. You would think by now they ran out of shovels. Pull your arrogant, uneducated head out of your butt - one can only assume that you must enjoy the view. Biden, the senile jackass has got the world on the brink of nuclear war by singlehandedly dividing the world into warring camps as opposed to pushing for peace in a war that anybody with a brain knew Ukraine could not win - all that western stuff notwithstanding.
@@Alltechmagazinetarget? They aimed at a city, and dropped inert warhead... blanks? and they dropped them... Randomly? Did you even watch the video you're commenting on?
15:15 You used wrong colour codes regarding Hungary, Serbia, Morocco and Azerbaijan on the map! Hungary is a NATO member, whilst Serbia, Morocco and Azerbaijan are not!
The new bot strategy is complain about the overwhelming amount of opposite side bots. So efficient! Not even funny anymore. Hoping in insightful bots 🙏
That rocket flying in the sky is not the missile. It's a Soyuz on the way to bring supplies to the ISS, you can tell by the 4 exhausts, very characteristic of a Soyuz (look at a pic of one) and totally not a missile that has one exhaust.
Calls Iran for drones, calls North Korea for troops...Are we really believing Russia in its current state can mass produce high tech ballistic missiles in numbers that will make a difference?
It's called cooperation! The story about North Korean troops seems to be unsubstantiated 🙂 Russia seems to be able to outmatch the USA/NATO in production of both artillery ammo and missiles. To produce Haselnuts at sufficient scale isn't unreasonably difficult. Russia is reluctant to escalate, and the West think that's a weakness. That's probably a mistake! They simply know what a war is somewhat better than the West does.
@@larsnystrom6698They can't even produce enough T80s and T90s to phase out T72s. Somehow I doubt there's any real substantial production of this missile
I thought that RS-24 for is effectively MIRVed Topol-M ( RS-12M1 ) and Millenium 7 did terrific two-parter (including correction) with nice rationale behind Oreshnik being partially based on both Yars and Bulava.
the title is misleading. oreshnik cant target smaller military units, its a waste of material, its intended to target large infrastructure which is what it was used to. ukraine does need to counter oreshnik, but it will not receive such help because the systems to do so are extremely expensive, larger than patriot, and may rarely to never be used or be able to be used. and a similar job can be done by other hypersonic missiles but those can be shot down since they dont leave the atmosphere and dont come right from above, and the aircrafts that carry it have limitations. oreshnik does not have limitations, it can carry easily 30 warheads that can do similar damage to khinzals (less accurate though since they do not have GPS guidance unlike khinzals, so its like shooting from space with a massive shotgun and praying you hit the target, but since targets are large this isnt a issue). interception of oreshnik: interception is impossible of the warheads at least, the missile itself can easily be intercepted by either launching a interceptor close to the launch site within a minute of the launch, or by striking it before it releases the warheads. after that it is impossible to intercept anything, and the speed is such that even the most expensive air defenses in the world, would not be able to even hit ONE SINGLE WARHEAD of the oreshnik. even more so if the warheads are smaller, as they may not produce any meaningful RCS to be intercepted in distances of -40km. even if detected the angle of attack is too high for any search radar stationed in the ground such as the one that operates together with patriots to pick it up, as the radar does not sweep those high angles. one has to remember most if not all air defense systems are meant for inside atmosphere operations at distances below 80kms and at altitudes below 17 kilometers. specialized missiles need to be used instead to operate above the karman line (30 to 100 kilometers from sea level)
they can not be detected there is no RCS at all those things have a massive and denser plasma cloud around the warheads we ever saw, which will eat all radar beams and makes nearly every radar we have useless right now against that missile... sorry for bad english im german and typing on my phone with gloves
Russia is destroying Ukraine, but the truth is the USA and its allies have played a huge role in this mess. Why did Ukraine even need to join NATO? They could’ve stayed neutral and avoided all this chaos.
What a difficult deep thought - we knew absolutely nothing about Oreshnic, we know almost nothing about Oreshnic now, but we already know exactly that it's very expensive, Russians have it very little, and it's generally useless. It's brilliant! I want to hug you and cry!
But the big question is can the heroi ruiny move Oreshnik around with their paws or not, cuz it was "highly likely" they could push concrete fortifications behind a minefield in 2023... ...having never crossed said field. 🤡
Am I wrong to assume it is basically useless without nuclear warheads? Kinetic payloads seem not powerful enough to destroy e.g., patriots, unless they hit spot on. Which I also assume is not very probable. It has 36 kinetic warheads, but they will spread over a large area.
Why I'd like to see the results which are curiously no where to be found. Still they were going at least mach 5 to 10 by the time they hit. Spread across 20 or so hits and its a cluster head with each having the energy of a large bomb. May not need to be pinpoint accurate.
You are wrong. The effectiveness of kinetic warheads depends on what they impact. The more solid the target the quicker and more completely the energy is transferred into the target. Besides the force of that is directly hit by the warhead the impact creates shockwaves that cause damage. It's basically a meteor impact. Also we don't know if the warheads are purely kinetic, they may be simply exploding far underground and can't be seen because by necessity it would be a small warhead on each of those to survive impact
@@bonedoc4556 I've seen a few videos with the supposed damage done by the warheads. I reckon it was supposed to hit a factory, but hit a residential region nearby instead. By the looks of the damage, it was absolutely minimal. Any other weapon hitting a house would do much more damage. But I don't know how "curated" those damage videos were.
@@alexdunphy3716 I agree with your statements. But the question is how heavy are these meteors and how spread they are. In interception kinetic weapons, the energy can reach about 5 times the equivalent mass in TNT. But that assumes the interception speed, i.e., warhead downgoing speed + interceptor upgoing speed. In this case it hit the ground, so the speed was less and so was the kinetic energy. If for the sake of simplicity we assume the speed is cut in half you get only 1/4th the energy, so it would roughly be equivalent to a bomb with around the same weight of TNT as the mass of the warhead. How much do they weigh? For comparison, a 500lb bomb has of the order of 100 kg of TNT.Of course, if you hit the target, or close to the target, you will destroy it, no question there. But how spread out will the 36 warheads be? 1 km^2? 10 km^2? Also, how much energy will be dissipated by each warhead before hitting the ground? I reckon it will slow down significantly more than if you had a single MIRV warhead instead of 6 kinetic sub-warheads. I guess one could actually calculate an estimate for the final speed based on the footage. In any case, as I stated above, the damage where the weapon has (supposedly) hit was minor, based on some videos I saw. How curated are those videos I don't know. But a 500lb bomb hitting a house would obliterate it, not just collapse part of the roof.
Just look at the impact footage. Do the "explosions" look anything like any sizable bomb? By the looks of it, the impact speed was not even close to 7km/s. Let's say it takes 1/10s from where they enter the frame until they hit the ground (it's more like 2/10s). Does that height look anything like 2300 ft? That's what you need to get to 7km/s in 1/10s. Not even close, I say! Again... I think subdividing the warheads kills the impact speed. They lose much more speed at the terminal phase. They just look like small, not that fast, meteors.
I don't understand the point of this weapon in this context with conventional warheads other than pure propaganda. It's not like it's being used as a Bunker Buster that can obliterate any hardened shelter no matter how deep it is as Prompt Global Strike program. A program BTW that was canceled because nobody could tell if the ICBM it was attached to is armed with a nuke or not.
@@dannydanny2789You realize the losses the two sides sustained are quite similar, right? Not to mention Russia has failed to achieve any of its war goals, in fact, the war goals flipped on them.
@@voidtempering8700 Russia has 10 times more people and 10 times more artillery. Also the cities and economy getting destroyed are not in Russia. Russia barely notices the losses, while Ukraine suffers badly.
@dannydanny2789 10 times the people, yet politically, they have put themselves in a very bad position. They already had an attempted coup, and people are continuing to leave the country. They have sustained massive vehicle losses, while NATO hasn't deployed any forces. Lastly, ten times the artillery means nothing when the other side's artillery is more accurate. They only need one round to achieve what Russia does with 10.
A message of failure? Message that they are willing to spend large amounts of money to prove they generate rubbish? Its a hollow threat.. it was supposed to be a message of they are not afraid to escalate but it proved that their threats are hollow and that they have nothing more than empty threats.
This channel is a mix of facts and cope. *Yeah, this missile is basically impossible to intercept, it can carry nukes, it has 36 individual warheads, it has a ridiculous range and production will likely increase in the future by a lot-- BUT DON'T WORRY, IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING !!!* If they reached a production of atleast 1/week, imagine what kind of damage it could do to strategic targets. Yet, a few dozen ATACMS and Stom Shadows which are basically nothing in comparison in damage, range and their interception rate will somehow make a huge difference ??? What kind of mental gymnastics is this ?
@inspectorclouseau6859 as a general rule of thumb, if there's not "real" person on screen talking, it's fake shit. There's no sense in arguing with fake accounts.
Of course not, they’re idiots. We have some badly educated defective people, like any country. In old times they would be sent out to wilderness to feed the wolves, but now they get government money and multiply like mice.
You can't just say Russian salaries are 7x lower so that scales to the cost of a missile. Raw materials, components, capital expenditure on machinery etc. are all NOT 7x lower than in the US. Other equipment like aircraft are more like ~2.5x so more like $28m at full-rate production.
The arms race got crazy with 10,000s of warheads because of all the MIRVs and thankfully several treaties severally rolled that back. Putting that 36 warheads in one missile could immensely back fire by causing the MIRV build up again.
Found the Russian bots lol. Anyone who has been following Binkov long term knows he's been a reliable and trustworthy reporter/commentator. Keep up the good work!
@vendetta3953 Anything that doesn't say Russia is the greatest country in the world and can conquer everything anytime it wants is westoid propaganda to you
I saw a video stating that the plume video is not the Oreshnik missile, but rather the returning booster from cargo rocket resupplying the Soyez space station.
i was gonna ask about its costs and the cost of a patriot. if each oreshnik costs 30 million(to use the highest estimate), and it can hit a patriot battery that costs 360 million......that's an amazingly good deal. you can 12 patriots for the cost of just 1. and aviation can operate more freely.
Yes, bit only If you are able to destroy the whole Patriot system. If you just hit a part - for example the radar or the command post or some of the launch stations, the costs math doesn't make up. BUT - you maybe are able to enable the rest of your forces with a leverage. So if the Patriot is disabled for some time because the radar is out of order, you may get air superiority for some weeks and be able to cheaply destroy a lot of other stuff.
This video of them hitting random villages or empty fields bc they are so desperate they have to rely on weapons that have a half mile CEP accuracy bc they were designed for nukes? Wow so scary.
Btw this weapon almost 100% hit nothing bc it was designed to carry nukes so has a half mile degree of error accuracy. Not very scary. Btw we🇺🇸 can put a missile literally through your window or hit with a weapon thats so accurate it has saw blades instead of explosives bc its that accurate. Try and keep up with that 1950s missile tech.
Wow they hit a bunch of crop fields, villages and a school bc these weapons are so inaccurate when not using nukes, yeah they really did speak for themselves. So scary.
These comments reveal the ignorance of the uninformed public. It's as though their "knowledge" is derived from too many hours of playing American video war games. Your mom is calling. She has a grilled cheese and bowl of tomato soup upstairs for you..... child.
Where in this video is there a Soyuz launch, and where does he claim to be showing an Oreshnik launch? There is no way anyone could have video of an Oreshnik launch, unless Russia released it. Worthless troll.
@@Djamonja That launch shown in the beginning is a Soyuz. See the plum, it matches Soyuz's 1st stage + 4 booster configuration. Oreshnik on the other hand doesn't use any booster. However, the fact that it was a Soyuz launch has been confirmed by other sources - time stamp of the video, time of Soyuz launch etc.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 Yes, I did see the plume, and I assume it is from a Soyuz rocket. I just think it's irrelevant. There was never any claim that some stock footage of a rocket plume in the first 2-3 seconds of the video was from an Oreshnik.
Trident is not a modern missile. Trident I is 45 years old and Trident 2 is still 34 years old. Just because something is 'current', does not make it 'modern'. We see exactly the same sort of talk about our tanks. Vehicles from the mid-80s ARE NOT MODERN! They're closer to WW2 than to the present day, let that sink in.
Why do you compare US costs vs Russian? You forget that US costs are based on bloated defence industry contractors whose role is to get rich and so the overheads at each stage of production of US weapons are huge. This is also why, on paper, the US spends more on defence than the next ten countries combined... Yet when you consider that the entire US fleet carrier group was recently forced out of the Red Sea, perhaps you might start to see a better picture of true comparison between capacity and capability. This is also why for three years now, the rhetoric from the West has been that Russia will fail, that its munitions will run out... any day now... and yet, their economy is stronger than before the invasion, their stockpiles are replenished without shortfalls, their diplomatic and military ties with the Global South and BRICS are increasing, and we now see they have weapons and capabilities that they didn't even employ until the US decided to escalate.
Because our country is run by clowns who program the public to not believe their lying eyes and ears. The world could be so awesome right now... instead we have sociopathic F'ing over everyone, including their own kids 😢.
Their economy isn't strong at all. They put everything they can into military production. It becomes harder and harder for regular businesses to compete, because salaries in military production are several times higher. Their civil aviation already fails - the count of accidents increased substantially this year. Many of their large armored vehicle storages rapidly depleting. The fact that Russia has deployed a new weapon doesn't mean it has strong economy. During the last year of WWII, Germany tried to deploy multiple innovative weapons, like V2 rockets and first production jet fighters in history. Yet, it still lost. The economy of 21-st century cannot be isolated - its a dead end and one of primary reasons why USSR has collapsed. China is the only serious partner for Russia in terms of economy.
@@ReasonX3North Korea has ran for over 70 years on almost no economy. How long do you think Russia can go starting out with a Better economy even if it wasn’t that great. The plan seems to be hurt them until they over throw Putin how has that worked out in the past? Also the narrative was he was a crazy irrational dictator. So is he? Or is he rational enough to not want to see the world burn from his bunker.
@@ReasonX3, you're delusional. Turn off CNN and talk to people there. Listen to news sources from other nations like China and India, two other strong global economies. China is far from the only Russian partner. The entire Global South is forging closer ties with Russia and each other and joining BRICS. That means Russia, China, India, Brazil, South America and that alone is major economic power but then you have other nations like many in Africa and South America, Iran, even Saudi Arabia and Turkey. And that's without mentioning that despite the so-called "sanctions", many European countries continue to rely on imports from Russia, if not directly than via proxies like India. It's hilarious. This entire conflict was started by the US to undermine and isolate Russia economically, diplomatically, and militarily. It has backfired spectaluarly... What it has achieved, on the other hand, is to fracture the global geopolitics and polarize it even more into West vs the rest. It has accelerated the separation of non-Western nations from US economy reliance and bullying as well as Western isolation. You're right that 21C economy has to be a global one... and look at what has happened in the last few years. African countries are expelling US and European colonial powers and closing their borders to NATO military. So is South America. China and Russia are expanding their influence in those same areas. Even some European nations are starting to go against the grain. Look at Hungary, Romania, Greece, and Slovakia for starters. Look at Turkey. Stop buying into the propaganda. It's costing us in the West more and more. They call it "inflation" and "cost of living increase" while the corporations and the military-industrial complex are posting record profits.
It is too round on the top. It needs to be pointy. Round is not scary. Pointy is scary.
“This video will explain the confusion….”
The very first clip of your video is adding to the confusion. That clip is not the launch of Oresnik. It’s a carrier rocket transporting supplies to the ISS.
There's no confusion. Ukaren and the west loses. That includes izrul.
@@gmw3083 your reply is somewhat off the specific topic of my comment. That aside, i agree with you. Yes, the west loses. May they lose faster
Wtf is that supposed to mean😅@@gmw3083
@@deelight3469 Binkov can’t except the truth while editing his vids 😁
@@gmw3083 what the hell did you mean to say here?
So in simple terms...it's one hell of a shovel
If Russia names one of their other weapons The Shovel we will know Putin is a master troll.
@@adamkallin5160imagine Putin in tv saying, we hypersonic shovel, chip taken from washing Machine 😂 I will rolling on the floor 😂
@@RunPJs they have chips from washing machine 🤣🤣. Russia main weapon stock finished 2 years ago as per Ursula 🤣🤣
@@harshitjha6605 Ursula wasn't wrong. Russia's original stock did indeed finish. But Ursula forgot that there's a thing called wartime production, LOL!
taking out military airports with this sounds like kind of a big deral
Jets in Ukrainian airports are constantly moved around, which explains why Russia has constantly failed in targeting them on the ground.
Then, simple buildings and infrastructure in airports would be pointless to target
Wont be taking out any airports with this, too inaccurate
“No images exist”
Warthunder forums: Hold my Vodka!
Mach 11.4 terminal speed is pretty tough to counter. Accuracy was spot on too.
It accurately hit the Earth somewhere LoL but it missed the target by miles.
@@TxChristopher U were there?
@@TxChristopherwrong
@@TxChristopherWhy did Ukraine not show pictures of it if it was a failure?
@kroche90 information security, if you show them where it hit then they can adjust accuracy for the next one....standard practice
You're not the first to make this mistake Binkov, you're in good company (see millennium 7s latest) the opening visual of the rocket in-flight is no longer thought to be Oreshnik, it's a cargo rocket heading for the I.S.S. launched from the same site some time later.
the first clip is actualy a Progress rocket on regular schedule to resupply ISS
1. There is no way you can know how much Russia is paying for producing "Oreshnik" missile. 2. Video of missile flying is Soyuz not Oreshnik. 3. You can't be serious thinking to estimate how many of these missiles Russia has and how quick they can produce more. Video is full of half information and speculation.
I agree. He even did not considered the new ammunition. This video has understimated the all scene.
Lol, that's how every lie is told. After all, truth is the vehicle of all lies.
Binkov the NAFO shill shouldnt be taken seriously
He didn’t say that he knows how much Russia pays for Oreshnik. He showed you how he arrived at the estimate.
@ВикторФирсов-е9ф And I bet there's a CNN version, a MSNBC, a FOX, an Economist version, a WSJ version, and a NYT version of how he/she/it/they/them arrived at the estimates. For example, it's quite frequent that dead generals magically appear alive 2 months after their reported deaths. Epic.
You claim that it is too expensive? Let's see the numbers; let's say it costs 20 million $ per missile. If it takes out only one F-16 on the ground, it has been paid off. How many these are needed to put the whole airbase out of service? Let's say 10. That is 200 million. What is an alternative? Fly with escadrile of SU-57 and TU-22 which would need to fire at least 100 conventional missiles to overcome airbase defenses and do some damage (it still might not be enough!), while risking that at least few aircrafts being lost due to SAM action. How much would that operation cost? And without any guarantee in success. In fact, Oreshnik, if its price is 20 million, is the way cheapest weapon for its potential destruction effect.
Add another 10^ to your vector cost and you might be on something. Still it offers less granularity in your response. I do somewhat second your point tho.
f 16 isn't limited that you will use a 20 million dollar missile that has possibly limited in numbers.
@@pmme-x5y you don't just shoot f16, it also drains anti-air missiles. unless they just accept they can't shoot it down.
@@IvanToman except F16 is a jet and can be fly away.
@@real_andrii First of all, after launch, noone can tell what is a target. So, any airbase can be. Not only in Ukraine but in the whole Europe. Basically, you need to fly with all airplanes in all airbases at once and be in the air within 15 minutes of launch detection in order to save those assets. In other words, mission impossible.
That is a Soyez launch resupplying the ISS, not the Oresnik missile. But that is mere details.
The footage in the intro is not from Oreshnik missile.
I remember when this channel was mostly theoretical battles. I wish those days were back. 😢
Go tell the eastern madman I guess.
I was astounded when I heard that it is said to fly over 3 kilometers per second.
Right now I need about an hour for my daily commute (one way) of 13 km through the city.
If I somehow were attached to that missile (of course it's fiction and I know that's not how it works) I could make that commute in just 4 SECONDS.
That's pretty much teleportation.
We🇺🇸 invented ICBMs that go that fast in the 1950s.
We🇺🇸 invented ICBMs that go that fast in the 1950s.
@@CS-mr3sj the diffrence is that your icbms need to slow down to a much slower speed before Terminal Phase where the warheads get deployed but this one never slows down even when deploying warheads...
It also has No RCS because of the super thick and dense Plasma Cloud around the warheads which eats Up all Radar beams and makes those Things invisible for all Air defence or missile defence systems...
The russians somehow managed to guide those warheads with that Plasmacloud around IT which normaly jams every guidance systems...
Also those missiles are normaly area saturation weapons but this one was accurate!
All groups of subminitions Hit there target only one small groupe missed...
Also Ukraine got every piece of Air defence systems from small to big Systems that Nato and US has in there Katalog, got warned days before the Attack and still could not shoot down one single Thing...
The Damage that was claimed to be small by UA is bullshit...
The Factory is build with deep Levels that Go Underground Like a Bunker and the russians new it because that Factory got build by soviet Union...
And If there would be "No siginificant Damage" why dont Just Show Pictures from INSIDE and How the Levels Underground Look..???😂
They only showed bad photoshopped Satellite Photos of the Roofs😂
This missile is Something new you can See it in the footage how those Things warheads Look in Impact...that could be theoreticly the First use of a Plasma weapon in human History..
When you are travelling at 3.4km/s, explosives are more of a complication than great addition as everything in it's path becomes frag until all that kinetic energy is gone - at such speeds a tungsten rod of the same weight would contain more energy in kinetic form than any explosives of equal weight would provide. These are not test munitions, they are working as designed and leave 36 holes through everything in their path.
Great video, clear unbiased,and presented great with all info currently at hand, i look forward to all of your hard work! And F@$K all the haters! Keep up the great work, and keep making videos, it may not be what everyone wants to hear but the Truth rarely is
Did you fall from Mars or the moon...lately?
Unbiased? 😂
Copium
@@mikevincek528 ok but what was baised? What was copium? I keep seeing these comments but what specifically are you talking about? At this point I am just honestly interested, make an argument don't just say fake! That makes me think it is even more real, what a crazy amount of objections to this video without any arguments?
Lol yeah Russian bot haters. This clearly is an unbiased good video.
Just because it's too expensive for 99% of possible targets doesn't mean that taking out the 1% of high-value targets isn't meaningful. Even taking out something like a Patriot battery can be worth it in some situations, despite the missile costing 10x the target, for example if it opens the way for other attacks. The main thing is that it is ADDITIONAL FIREPOWER on top of everything else Russia has, with a lot of reach.
This honestly seems pretty level headed and balanced. I don’t understand the fuss
"Level headed" by seething and coping standards
@ gotta elaborate dude
@@dookie96i love when these people never elaborate. they just pick a side and stay there
From what I can pick up from the fence is that this video has half info and half speculation, even the first clip showing a rocket is not the same as the missile being mentioned
the bots understand.
0:00 this video is not from Orešnik but fly of Soyuz, launched same day...
Hazel missile hit a old russian icbm factory, muti level over a about 1 mile site.
Without seeing the damage we don't know what hazel can do. Odd Ukraine not showing us, unless its bad news.
When ukraine is not showing and talking about it is because is very bad
@@danburke6568 there are videos of the damage form civilians. Your not looking hard enough.
One said floors were destroyed down to the 3rd underground floor
with regards it being expensive again he get this wrong. One of these missiles costs about $40 million. Yes that's expensive.
Now drop this one an airbase and even if one warhead destroys just one fighter jet or the radar and control centre there's your money back right there without even counting the damage done by the other 35 warheads. this weapon is capable of doing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage to a NATO airbase.
I would argue that this weapon is probably the best bang for buck weapon on the planet if you exclude nukes
MOAB says no. According to the Air Force, it only costs $170.000 , highest estimate is $16m.
Oreshkin can still be intercepted in its earlier stages as well, when it is both slower and more predictable.
NATO, however, will always have air supremacy in a hot war against Russia.
It’s not expensive, just a few washing machines 😂
@@Bacontrufflemoab need something to deliver, delivery cost must be added.
@@YSKWatch I suppose so, but that's still nowhere close to $40m
Especially when you realize the US has over 12 times the military budget of Russia
It's also more accurate, directly targeted, and proven in combat.
@@Bacontruffle 1 plane to deliver, few others to protect it, awacs, maybe tanker, delivery speed less than mach 2 while ukr report that rus' hit at 11 to 11.4 mach. the plane might not pass the air defense.
Great video, thank you for your analysis!
Thanks for the technical explanations
video at the star of a launch is not of Oreshnik, but of supply rocket for space station
this is a airfield/Missel defense system killer and at 10-30 million vs a billion $ worth of damage it can do that is not a bad trade
LoL yeah sure, even though it missed by miles.
How does it do a billion dollars damage... in Ukraine?
@@willthecat3861 it takes out patiot systems or air fields housing fighters and ammunition
@@TxChristopher it literally destroyed the planet it targeted
@@TxChristopher Seems pretty accurate from the sattelite images provided, dont you think so. Your propaganda have nothing to do with reality.
if it really costs 10 million $ as you estimate then it is pretty much a dirt cheap options for Russia based on what it achieves
a fighter jet with its' price cannot strike thousands of kilometers away in a few minutes while completely avoiding air defenses
Oreshnik is just a toy, Russia has thee Sarmat active since 2023, this is a FOBS capable (which means it gets into orbit) missile with 3 Avangard glide vehicles about 3tons heavy each, even without nukes, 3 tons of tungsten at Mach 15 is 9.3 tons of TNT in kinetic energy (3 of them are 29tons, 15Mach is a reduced speed after a long glide from 23Mach)
a FOBS weapon completely ignores the existing anti-ICBM weapons by flying at a very low altitude and around the globe from the south pole
Such a weapon can target aircraft carriers, if not when on the move then when they are at port for maintenance, bombers like the B2 (limited numbers, long repairs, super expensive) and early warning facilities that are used against conventional ICBMs
This means that Russia has the capability, at the moment and not in the future, to take out some very expensive assets without starting a nuclear war, not only in Europe with the Oreshnik but anywhere on the planet
The rs-26 was never in production.
This missile is more like a R-30 bulava but a ground launched missile.
This missile is in serial production.
This sounds like ISW garbage. It doesn't work and is useless. Lol
So basically, it's an icbm with some fuel or boosters removed. But also, they can have the ability to carry multiple warheads inert or the real ones.
What new did u learn here?
So it's nothing...yeah Ukraine is winning 😂
It's not an icbm. It's an IRBM intermediate range ballistic missile. It can only target within 600-3400 miles. Although its range is shorter than the ICBM,it still can target any country in europe
That was a supply mission to the international space station that you showed in the beginning
14:52 not ver usecful? Imagine what will happend when they move 2 or 3 near ukraine and send it to f16 bases? F16 bases will be outside ukraine? good luck with that....
Looool slav
That would be a terrible Russian mistake
@@Sirikazy that would be so stupid as nukes will be launched in retaliation as nato doesn’t know if it’s nukes or not.
This will probably be the next iteration of Russian super weapons. But what do the T-14 and SU-57 have in common? Hmmm....
what they have in common is that they haven't been widely used or at all until now
this also means that Russia can escalate by having thing under the carpet or in their sleeve
@billwhoever2830 it means that they don't exist in large enough quantities to change the situation on the battlefield...
No need for either of them?
@@billwhoever2830but Russia still isn’t using su-57 or T-14, even now
They don't have enough of either to form a full Unit?
So I usually don't comment on videos, I did today and probably won't again. There is a lot of comments about this being COPE and untrue. What exactly did he say that was untrue? Or coping?
Anybody?
I think that the comments which say that this video is cope and untrue are talking about the video saying that this missile has no real function against Ukraine. The missile is basically not able to be intercepted, but was inert and did very little damage to the factory, while costing Russia a fortune.
Ballistic missiles are very effective delivery systems for nuclear weapons, but are a very inefficient way of delivering conventional explosives, or no explosives as was likely in this case.
Russian bots say that these facts are untrue and that the West is just trying to cope with Russia's terrifying superiority, in the hope that if you lie constantly very loudly then fools will believe you.
All the best. 👍
@@ivancho5854 dude thank you! So I'm not crazy here. I don't have a dog in this fight and whether it is or isn't a wunderwaffen doesn't affect me. Just caught off guard by the inordinate amount of push back here.
@@WeAREallHerosANDvillans Have a great day man. 👍
There wasnt anything, generally false in the video; its just a bit of nothingburger.
There are no targets worth such missile in ukraine and everyone knows this; it was just a clickbait title, which triggered most of the people here.
Go watch milennium 7 history, where he elaborates further about this missile and its possible strategic capabilities.
Ivancho5854 below is wrong; since this system is very strategic, not for ukraine, but for nato or europe; in short 3-5 of these missiles could knock a well defended airbase for MONTHS. in a matter of minutes; Where otherwise you would need 100s or more missiles, which is way more expensive both in work-hours and money-hours. Since you HAVE to overwhelm air defense systems, so you are forced to use lots of missiles.
So in reality it is a "game changer" in terms of denying airbases or other significant targets if the war breaks out with nato countries, but the escalation would quickly lead us to nuclear war so in sense this missile is a game changer and not. The clickbait title wasnt wrong; since it truly changes absolutely nothing in ukraine, there are nearly 0 high value targets worth such costs in ukraine, but in nato v russia war, there would be plenty of worthwhile targets.
Weird, i was subscribed to this channel for years and magically got unsubscribed
Same
Hacked by Russians
Yep, RUclips does that. Either a glitch or some stupid viewer manipulation thing.
@@JonMartinYXD i doubt its a glitch, i bet you is some kind of manipulation
This is a very - check that; ridiculously expensive way to deliver an inert or even conventional explosive payload
The point of the attack was not damage. It was a reality check - "these are weapons that can carry nuclear weapons and you have zero capability to stop them"
Let's put it in perspective. If Russia targeted a city with 1 MIRV Oreshnik with 6 missiles at mach 10 there is no system on Eartht that would prevent that attack.
We (in the West) are constantly told our technology is better and our anti air intercepts 85-90% of missiles... it's just simply not true. In the Oreshnik attack you can count each missile in slow motion 36/36 got through. Iran also showed that the Iron Dome/arrow cannot stop their missiles either. In this conflict many myths have been shattered...
The US has had multiple failures in testing hypersonic. Without missiles the same speed as their opponents the margin of era on intercept is so small it's basically impossible.
@@Writeous0ne this. Also, Moscow felt they needed to send this message to the west because the US and UK missile platforms attacking targets inside Russia require western input to function-for example, the UK’s stormshadow missile platform uses an English interface and contains proprietary code considered TS; therefore, it’s UK contractors and/or Special OPs units operating these batteries on behalf of the Ukrainian military. Meanwhile, the US provided HMARS missile uses GPS guidance to navigate to and hit its target, and therefore relies on US satellites for this function. In conclusion, it goes without saying that our level of involvement in the operation of these weapon systems are tantamount to a declaration of war.
"Here is what Russia can do with this missile if it sends thousands of them at once at countries they're not even at war with"
Okay buddy. If Russia didn't want explosions in their border regions then they probably shouldn't have invaded their neighbor. If the only defense they have is the threat of nuclear escalation then they stand to lose at every level the game is played at. This is both a show of force and an admission of ineptitude. They will come to the table soon with favorable terms to Ukraine because they have thus far been unwilling to bleed at home. But they will continue to bleed at home because they have no defense. They achieved their war goals in the first month of the war and everything since then has been them culling their own youth in trenches via $100 drones with explosives strapped to them. Now they spend $10 million for a showpony. Probably time to call it a day.
@@Bern_il_Cinq Dream on, Russia is taking hundreds of miles of land at the moment, and they will not even talk all the while Zelensky is there, you are ill informed if you think Russia are doing badly
Putin just sent a ridiculously expensive message that the west seems hell-bent on ignoring….. don’t keep pushing towards World War III because they will eventually get it and nobody wants that
Haven't seen one picture of the impact sites yet and I've looked all over the net. Anyone else find them?
It's curious, even when just a kinetic head was used.
check millenium history's last video about oreshnik, it does have a satellite image but it is rather blurry
NAFO fan boys in a state of dissonance and denial, much like NATO countries over the game changing new missile.
@@chrisgreene2623 100% correct
I watched 2 interviews. One woman who worked there went back and said it’s absolutely just dust left. I thought maybe she is exaggerating, but another person stated something similar that the facility was completely destroyed.
@@chrisgreene2623I hate NAFO
The footage at the beginning is a rocket going to space for a restock mission on a soyouz rocket
Yeah, so? Did you know the guy is a hand puppet?
Or did you really expect there to be launch footage from this missile available publicly? 😂
Oresnik is 1970 design, so not that much off.
@@juliusfucik4011 I’m not making a point against binkof one bit; yes I’m aware of his presentation style.
In fact out of all the videos using that clip binkof is the only one saying ‘possible’ all the other channels are just rolling with it.
Stage 1: We say nothing is going to happen.
Stage 2: We say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage 3: We say maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage 4: We say maybe there was something, but it's too late now.
I assume we are on stage 2
No one can counter Oreshnik missile. But they don't have to.
Fixed it for you
the video you are using is of a soyuz launch not of oreshnik... it was debunked already
It is true that Ukraine does not need to counter this missile: its usage was a message for the West, not Ukraine. Using Ukraine as a testing ground was not provocative, a pure demonstration, unlike if the Oreshnik had been used on a US base in NATO (to counter ATACMs usage against Russia) or a UK target (Stormshadows). In fact, it was a message to the West that the West should leave Ukraine to fight on Ukrainian territory, where it is losing fast, hence the Western escalation of missile strikes in Russia.
Western “escalation” by allowing Ukraine to properly defend itself, as opposed to the totally innocent action of Russia invading Ukraine in the first place. The Oreshnik is typical Russian saber rattling and nothing more. Russia is fighting at full effort in Ukraine and it is using theatrics to deter Ukraine’s supporters
It was a really poor message, no one cares about oreshnik.
Clearly a weapon designed to overwhelm airfields
A weapon to surpass metal dome 😅
Sure thing champ.....
I don't think the video adequately addresses the thesis in the title. If it does, I surely got lost among the technical details of the missiles.
Oreshnik will speak for itself
Similar how like all of Yuzhmash was " completely destroyed" ? And 3000 generals of NATO perished? But satellites show a different story Russian bots man🤣🤣🤣
What satellite images? Are you talking about those blurry frames with 144p quality? Where is the video from the ground? Who else is a bot here, we need to think about it🤔
Surprisingly neutral and factual video. What happened? Has the NAFO phase finished?
Maybe he's not into punching down. Russia can't even make stealth fighters and now relies on North Korea. It's hard to make fun of a country that pathetic.
@@TheNefastorWhy do they need stealth fighters? And increasing cooperation with NK keeps SK somewhat distant from the war and gives you more shells. What's wrong with that?
@@drunkendwarf440 you know what's wrong with that. Stealth fighters can bomb artillery. The opposite is impossible.
@@TheNefastor That's not the purpose. Only if you also have a stealth recon unit. They are not for low heights bombing. Otherwise any other guided projectile does the same job
@@drunkendwarf440 details, details. Nobody is winning a war with North Korea as its weapons source.
The only thing not mentioned is above mach 10 it becomes a kinetic weapon (turns the materials of the missile and the hit area into explosives). Very good video.
Yeah. The speed of which it travels causes friction in the atmosphere which created plasma
Millennium will be angry yet again slapping his hands to his forehead if he sees this because his conjecture is that it is an SLBM redesigned to become Hazel missile.
How and why he should be angry? Did you even watch this video? There was absolutely NOTHING binkov stated which would contradict milennium. This missile is not intended for ukraine it was a political move and absolutely everything milennium stated still apply; throwing 50-100 million to completely disable an airbase for a few months is a pricey, but strategically significant capability to have. And everyone from the first day knew, this was a political showing, not something they would EVER need in ukraine.
Angry too much of a reach but disappointing? For sure.
So a missile with non-thermo MIRVS launches 5-12 missiles EACH
with 5-12 MORE missiles?
This missile should be called the Matryoshka missile.
God these bots are idiots. Blinkov is pro NATO. He’s literally just presenting the available information.
If they weren't idiots, they would be able to find a better job
Bots need money for food? Dang. I had no idea.
@@NoobTube4148 These bots are usually minimum wage idiots
Regardless if you think this is propoganda or not, at least this video and the comments show you need to doubt everything you see regarding war. Each side will do what they can to push their information, especially in this era.
In the next video:
Ukraine can't win the war. But it doesn't have to.
Fr this is crazy
May i just say that many people are talking about the Oreshnik like actual weapon , forgeting that it is an experimental and who knows what end product will be, and what materials, tactics, munitions or whatsoever they wanted to test here...
Putin himself said it's going into serial production
@@Iamabot4708 yes but with probably few variants of warheads, or decoys or what word 'experimental' means..
These are long range missiles, ATACMS aren't those are close range.
wrong...atacms are declared as long range but not in the way icbms are. the notions mean different ranges for both systems.
ATACMS are long range tactical missiles. Oreshnik is intermediate range strategic missile. Ranges go up from tactical to strategic categories.
@@ctrlaltdebug ruclips.net/video/yUfm6AbtJ0g/видео.html here is a discussion about long range and short range missiles. discussion that the media picksup what long range is and what really long range is. In the catogory ATACMS is the 300 km variant it is believe to be a long range missile. But, Arms control definitions is : < 1000 km is considered short range. 1000 - 5500 Km = Intermediate range. > 5500 km long range
Must have taken a lot of washing machines and shovels to make it
Maybe if the orcs figured out how guns work they'd actually wins this war. Alas.
Discontinued pew pews didn't seem to help little zelensky and his backtracked conditions.) Cope harder, phanta boy 🤡
Careful, don't OD on copium.
I enjoy putting misinformed people like you in your place. That (ICBM) missile destroyed an enormous mfg. and weapons facility, much of it was underground. If the Ukes are correct that the damage was negligible, as they, the bullsh****s claim, then why don't they put out any video to demonstrate that?
Also, it was 1959 when the Soviets orbited the earth while our (US) rockets were blowing up on the launch pad. You would think by now they ran out of shovels. Pull your arrogant, uneducated head out of your butt - one can only assume that you must enjoy the view. Biden, the senile jackass has got the world on the brink of nuclear war by singlehandedly dividing the world into warring camps as opposed to pushing for peace in a war that anybody with a brain knew Ukraine could not win - all that western stuff notwithstanding.
They didn't use warheads on it. It was so fast that it destroyed the target just by kinetic force.
@@Alltechmagazinetarget? They aimed at a city, and dropped inert warhead... blanks? and they dropped them... Randomly?
Did you even watch the video you're commenting on?
15:15 You used wrong colour codes regarding Hungary, Serbia, Morocco and Azerbaijan on the map! Hungary is a NATO member, whilst Serbia, Morocco and Azerbaijan are not!
Oh boy, new COPE just dropped!
must be quite an accurate description, Mr. Binkov - you've certainly drawn the kremlin bots out to play.
Nailed it.
The new bot strategy is complain about the overwhelming amount of opposite side bots. So efficient! Not even funny anymore. Hoping in insightful bots 🙏
@@sethheristal9561 dude I can't keep up with all the bot accusations, I'm starting to think I may be a bot.
That rocket flying in the sky is not the missile. It's a Soyuz on the way to bring supplies to the ISS, you can tell by the 4 exhausts, very characteristic of a Soyuz (look at a pic of one) and totally not a missile that has one exhaust.
That's why it's flying parallel to earth and never leaves the upper atmosphere?
Calls Iran for drones, calls North Korea for troops...Are we really believing Russia in its current state can mass produce high tech ballistic missiles in numbers that will make a difference?
It's called cooperation!
The story about North Korean troops seems to be unsubstantiated 🙂
Russia seems to be able to outmatch the USA/NATO in production of both artillery ammo and missiles.
To produce Haselnuts at sufficient scale isn't unreasonably difficult.
Russia is reluctant to escalate, and the West think that's a weakness. That's probably a mistake!
They simply know what a war is somewhat better than the West does.
They have built lots of weapons before.
Don't forget they're being pushed out of Syria.
@@shishoka LOL better step out of your bubble, champ.
@@larsnystrom6698They can't even produce enough T80s and T90s to phase out T72s. Somehow I doubt there's any real substantial production of this missile
I thought that RS-24 for is effectively MIRVed Topol-M ( RS-12M1 ) and Millenium 7 did terrific two-parter (including correction) with nice rationale behind Oreshnik being partially based on both Yars and Bulava.
the title is misleading.
oreshnik cant target smaller military units, its a waste of material, its intended to target large infrastructure which is what it was used to.
ukraine does need to counter oreshnik, but it will not receive such help because the systems to do so are extremely expensive, larger than patriot, and may rarely to never be used or be able to be used.
and a similar job can be done by other hypersonic missiles but those can be shot down since they dont leave the atmosphere and dont come right from above, and the aircrafts that carry it have limitations.
oreshnik does not have limitations, it can carry easily 30 warheads that can do similar damage to khinzals (less accurate though since they do not have GPS guidance unlike khinzals, so its like shooting from space with a massive shotgun and praying you hit the target, but since targets are large this isnt a issue).
interception of oreshnik: interception is impossible of the warheads at least, the missile itself can easily be intercepted by either launching a interceptor close to the launch site within a minute of the launch, or by striking it before it releases the warheads.
after that it is impossible to intercept anything, and the speed is such that even the most expensive air defenses in the world, would not be able to even hit ONE SINGLE WARHEAD of the oreshnik.
even more so if the warheads are smaller, as they may not produce any meaningful RCS to be intercepted in distances of -40km.
even if detected the angle of attack is too high for any search radar stationed in the ground such as the one that operates together with patriots to pick it up, as the radar does not sweep those high angles.
one has to remember most if not all air defense systems are meant for inside atmosphere operations at distances below 80kms and at altitudes below 17 kilometers.
specialized missiles need to be used instead to operate above the karman line (30 to 100 kilometers from sea level)
they can not be detected there is no RCS at all those things have a massive and denser plasma cloud around the warheads we ever saw, which will eat all radar beams and makes nearly every radar we have useless right now against that missile...
sorry for bad english im german and typing on my phone with gloves
Excellent analysis. 👍
Video starts with a Soyuz launch. Good shit.
Russia is destroying Ukraine, but the truth is the USA and its allies have played a huge role in this mess. Why did Ukraine even need to join NATO? They could’ve stayed neutral and avoided all this chaos.
bad decisions, corrupt president and other politics
Wrong
I’ve been saying this. From the gate.
Putin is destroying Russia, literally. Russia at the moment doesn't have has what is considered a currency, and that's a fact.
But Ukraine is not in NATO and was denied Entry by USA and Europe multiple times.
By the by what happened to the Kinzhal? It was hyped so much by Russia until it arrested its developer…
no one stop kinzal as well. Kinzal doesn't have mirv.
What a difficult deep thought - we knew absolutely nothing about Oreshnic, we know almost nothing about Oreshnic now, but we already know exactly that it's very expensive, Russians have it very little, and it's generally useless. It's brilliant! I want to hug you and cry!
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Ok orc.
Ok Gollum
But the big question is can the heroi ruiny move Oreshnik around with their paws or not, cuz it was "highly likely" they could push concrete fortifications behind a minefield in 2023... ...having never crossed said field. 🤡
@@АлександрКоровин-и4щ zigger please go to google maps and take a look how village from which Oreshnik was lanuched looks like
The video in the first seconds it's a soyuz rocket launch .
Am I wrong to assume it is basically useless without nuclear warheads? Kinetic payloads seem not powerful enough to destroy e.g., patriots, unless they hit spot on. Which I also assume is not very probable. It has 36 kinetic warheads, but they will spread over a large area.
Why I'd like to see the results which are curiously no where to be found. Still they were going at least mach 5 to 10 by the time they hit. Spread across 20 or so hits and its a cluster head with each having the energy of a large bomb. May not need to be pinpoint accurate.
You are wrong. The effectiveness of kinetic warheads depends on what they impact. The more solid the target the quicker and more completely the energy is transferred into the target. Besides the force of that is directly hit by the warhead the impact creates shockwaves that cause damage. It's basically a meteor impact. Also we don't know if the warheads are purely kinetic, they may be simply exploding far underground and can't be seen because by necessity it would be a small warhead on each of those to survive impact
@@bonedoc4556 I've seen a few videos with the supposed damage done by the warheads. I reckon it was supposed to hit a factory, but hit a residential region nearby instead. By the looks of the damage, it was absolutely minimal. Any other weapon hitting a house would do much more damage. But I don't know how "curated" those damage videos were.
@@alexdunphy3716 I agree with your statements. But the question is how heavy are these meteors and how spread they are. In interception kinetic weapons, the energy can reach about 5 times the equivalent mass in TNT. But that assumes the interception speed, i.e., warhead downgoing speed + interceptor upgoing speed. In this case it hit the ground, so the speed was less and so was the kinetic energy. If for the sake of simplicity we assume the speed is cut in half you get only 1/4th the energy, so it would roughly be equivalent to a bomb with around the same weight of TNT as the mass of the warhead. How much do they weigh? For comparison, a 500lb bomb has of the order of 100 kg of TNT.Of course, if you hit the target, or close to the target, you will destroy it, no question there. But how spread out will the 36 warheads be? 1 km^2? 10 km^2? Also, how much energy will be dissipated by each warhead before hitting the ground? I reckon it will slow down significantly more than if you had a single MIRV warhead instead of 6 kinetic sub-warheads. I guess one could actually calculate an estimate for the final speed based on the footage.
In any case, as I stated above, the damage where the weapon has (supposedly) hit was minor, based on some videos I saw. How curated are those videos I don't know. But a 500lb bomb hitting a house would obliterate it, not just collapse part of the roof.
Just look at the impact footage. Do the "explosions" look anything like any sizable bomb? By the looks of it, the impact speed was not even close to 7km/s. Let's say it takes 1/10s from where they enter the frame until they hit the ground (it's more like 2/10s). Does that height look anything like 2300 ft? That's what you need to get to 7km/s in 1/10s. Not even close, I say! Again... I think subdividing the warheads kills the impact speed. They lose much more speed at the terminal phase. They just look like small, not that fast, meteors.
The footage at the start is just a Soyuz rocket taking its payload to space.
I don't understand the point of this weapon in this context with conventional warheads other than pure propaganda.
It's not like it's being used as a Bunker Buster that can obliterate any hardened shelter no matter how deep it is as Prompt Global Strike program. A program BTW that was canceled because nobody could tell if the ICBM it was attached to is armed with a nuke or not.
As always, it is just for show, hoping to get a reaction from the West
@@tellarty Like those Himars-destroying Iskanders missiles are just for show?
@@Kayzef2003 Did I speak to you? You should know your place.
Of course you don't😊
Weapont test
That's what we call a short shrift. If it's in the headline, then spend a little more time on why Ukraine doesn't have to stop the new missile.
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"Ukraine can't win against Russia. But it doesn't have to"
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They'll just gloat that they only lost 70% of their population and half of their territory, therefore Russia lost or something.
@@dannydanny2789You realize the losses the two sides sustained are quite similar, right? Not to mention Russia has failed to achieve any of its war goals, in fact, the war goals flipped on them.
@@voidtempering8700 Russia has 10 times more people and 10 times more artillery. Also the cities and economy getting destroyed are not in Russia. Russia barely notices the losses, while Ukraine suffers badly.
@dannydanny2789 10 times the people, yet politically, they have put themselves in a very bad position. They already had an attempted coup, and people are continuing to leave the country. They have sustained massive vehicle losses, while NATO hasn't deployed any forces. Lastly, ten times the artillery means nothing when the other side's artillery is more accurate. They only need one round to achieve what Russia does with 10.
yeah whats the point of countering when youre gonna lose anyway.
Ukrainian spy chief Budanov: Russia only has Oreshnik missiles left for around 2 or maybe 3 Ukraines
and of course he would tell the truth wouldn't he
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message
A message of failure? Message that they are willing to spend large amounts of money to prove they generate rubbish? Its a hollow threat.. it was supposed to be a message of they are not afraid to escalate but it proved that their threats are hollow and that they have nothing more than empty threats.
Most likely it was a left-over test missile that they fired at Dnipro rather than disassemble it.
This channel is a mix of facts and cope.
*Yeah, this missile is basically impossible to intercept, it can carry nukes, it has 36 individual warheads, it has a ridiculous range and production will likely increase in the future by a lot-- BUT DON'T WORRY, IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING !!!* If they reached a production of atleast 1/week, imagine what kind of damage it could do to strategic targets.
Yet, a few dozen ATACMS and Stom Shadows which are basically nothing in comparison in damage, range and their interception rate will somehow make a huge difference ??? What kind of mental gymnastics is this ?
everything russia does is fake and gay, everything the west does is legit and right, all other opinions are putin's propaganda
@@paulkirjonen1226moron.
@@ShabanAjeti that was a sarcasm
It's called delusion. And human ps are very efficient in it
The missile is much more relevant than this video makes it out to be in it's conclusions...
A lot of people in the comments here are saying that Binkov is talking nonsense.
Can someone explane that, but with valid arguments?
They will get back to you when the media tells them what they think about it
@inspectorclouseau6859 as a general rule of thumb, if there's not "real" person on screen talking, it's fake shit. There's no sense in arguing with fake accounts.
@@houstonbinkley1844 you mean, because binkov doesn't talk on screen, the reasoning is false?
Of course not, they’re idiots. We have some badly educated defective people, like any country. In old times they would be sent out to wilderness to feed the wolves, but now they get government money and multiply like mice.
@inspectorclouseau6859 find another channel. Theres a reason these random channels pop up in your feed.
You can't just say Russian salaries are 7x lower so that scales to the cost of a missile.
Raw materials, components, capital expenditure on machinery etc. are all NOT 7x lower than in the US. Other equipment like aircraft are more like ~2.5x so more like $28m at full-rate production.
Probably, maybe, perhaps, ...
The opening footage is from a Soyuz Progress launch to the ISS. Come on guys, look at the plume…
It's just filler footage
The arms race got crazy with 10,000s of warheads because of all the MIRVs and thankfully several treaties severally rolled that back.
Putting that 36 warheads in one missile could immensely back fire by causing the MIRV build up again.
Found the Russian bots lol.
Anyone who has been following Binkov long term knows he's been a reliable and trustworthy reporter/commentator. Keep up the good work!
yeah totally trustable as long as the west0id pr0paganda keeps flowing
Haha, what a joke.
@NickyDekker89 I know.
@@vendetta3953Keep crying
@vendetta3953 Anything that doesn't say Russia is the greatest country in the world and can conquer everything anytime it wants is westoid propaganda to you
Really smart for US to cancel all the Arms Control treaties...
As if Russia ever honored them anyway...
@Raivo_K Both sides previously destroyed their entire IRBM stockpiles specifically to prevent the type of fuckery were seeing today.
@@Raivo_Kactually yes, Russia did honor. Till Russia understood it was one sided
@@aeye9772 So you're saying now that US violated the treaty?
@Raivo_K yes. This is what I said. And USA always violates treaties without any remorse. Nothing personal.
I saw a video stating that the plume video is not the Oreshnik missile, but rather the returning booster from cargo rocket resupplying the Soyez space station.
Outstanding show as usual sir!👍👍🏽👍🏼👍🏾👍🏿
i was gonna ask about its costs and the cost of a patriot.
if each oreshnik costs 30 million(to use the highest estimate), and it can hit a patriot battery that costs 360 million......that's an amazingly good deal. you can 12 patriots for the cost of just 1.
and aviation can operate more freely.
Yes, bit only If you are able to destroy the whole Patriot system. If you just hit a part - for example the radar or the command post or some of the launch stations, the costs math doesn't make up.
BUT - you maybe are able to enable the rest of your forces with a leverage. So if the Patriot is disabled for some time because the radar is out of order, you may get air superiority for some weeks and be able to cheaply destroy a lot of other stuff.
If Russian aviation is allowed to operate more freely, I fear for the hospitals, homes, playgrounds, schools, and theaters in Ukraine .
@@pelle7771 The parts are expensive too. As are the missiles. So ..
@@pelle7771
with 36 warheards in each oreshnik, why wouldnt you be able?
Zero evidence of it being able to hit a patriot.
They see me copin' they hatin'.
this video is the missiles speaking for themselves, but they spoke Russian
This video of them hitting random villages or empty fields bc they are so desperate they have to rely on weapons that have a half mile CEP accuracy bc they were designed for nukes? Wow so scary.
Btw this weapon almost 100% hit nothing bc it was designed to carry nukes so has a half mile degree of error accuracy. Not very scary. Btw we🇺🇸 can put a missile literally through your window or hit with a weapon thats so accurate it has saw blades instead of explosives bc its that accurate. Try and keep up with that 1950s missile tech.
Wow they hit a bunch of crop fields, villages and a school bc these weapons are so inaccurate when not using nukes, yeah they really did speak for themselves. So scary.
@@CS-mr3sj you don't know wtf you're speaking of respecfully
These comments reveal the ignorance of the uninformed public. It's as though their "knowledge" is derived from too many hours of playing American video war games. Your mom is calling. She has a grilled cheese and bowl of tomato soup upstairs for you..... child.
Wow! Showing a Soyuz launch and calling Oreshnik? Nice.
Where in this video is there a Soyuz launch, and where does he claim to be showing an Oreshnik launch? There is no way anyone could have video of an Oreshnik launch, unless Russia released it. Worthless troll.
@@Djamonja First second, dambfakk
@@barsnack7999 Sure thing trollboy
@@Djamonja That launch shown in the beginning is a Soyuz. See the plum, it matches Soyuz's 1st stage + 4 booster configuration. Oreshnik on the other hand doesn't use any booster.
However, the fact that it was a Soyuz launch has been confirmed by other sources - time stamp of the video, time of Soyuz launch etc.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 Yes, I did see the plume, and I assume it is from a Soyuz rocket. I just think it's irrelevant. There was never any claim that some stock footage of a rocket plume in the first 2-3 seconds of the video was from an Oreshnik.
Binkov's Copinggrounds.
Trident is not a modern missile. Trident I is 45 years old and Trident 2 is still 34 years old.
Just because something is 'current', does not make it 'modern'.
We see exactly the same sort of talk about our tanks. Vehicles from the mid-80s ARE NOT MODERN! They're closer to WW2 than to the present day, let that sink in.
Good analysis. It's too bad about all the bots here.
Why do you compare US costs vs Russian? You forget that US costs are based on bloated defence industry contractors whose role is to get rich and so the overheads at each stage of production of US weapons are huge. This is also why, on paper, the US spends more on defence than the next ten countries combined... Yet when you consider that the entire US fleet carrier group was recently forced out of the Red Sea, perhaps you might start to see a better picture of true comparison between capacity and capability.
This is also why for three years now, the rhetoric from the West has been that Russia will fail, that its munitions will run out... any day now... and yet, their economy is stronger than before the invasion, their stockpiles are replenished without shortfalls, their diplomatic and military ties with the Global South and BRICS are increasing, and we now see they have weapons and capabilities that they didn't even employ until the US decided to escalate.
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Because our country is run by clowns who program the public to not believe their lying eyes and ears. The world could be so awesome right now... instead we have sociopathic F'ing over everyone, including their own kids 😢.
Their economy isn't strong at all. They put everything they can into military production. It becomes harder and harder for regular businesses to compete, because salaries in military production are several times higher. Their civil aviation already fails - the count of accidents increased substantially this year. Many of their large armored vehicle storages rapidly depleting.
The fact that Russia has deployed a new weapon doesn't mean it has strong economy. During the last year of WWII, Germany tried to deploy multiple innovative weapons, like V2 rockets and first production jet fighters in history. Yet, it still lost.
The economy of 21-st century cannot be isolated - its a dead end and one of primary reasons why USSR has collapsed. China is the only serious partner for Russia in terms of economy.
@@ReasonX3North Korea has ran for over 70 years on almost no economy. How long do you think Russia can go starting out with a Better economy even if it wasn’t that great. The plan seems to be hurt them until they over throw Putin how has that worked out in the past? Also the narrative was he was a crazy irrational dictator. So is he? Or is he rational enough to not want to see the world burn from his bunker.
@@ReasonX3, you're delusional. Turn off CNN and talk to people there. Listen to news sources from other nations like China and India, two other strong global economies.
China is far from the only Russian partner. The entire Global South is forging closer ties with Russia and each other and joining BRICS. That means Russia, China, India, Brazil, South America and that alone is major economic power but then you have other nations like many in Africa and South America, Iran, even Saudi Arabia and Turkey. And that's without mentioning that despite the so-called "sanctions", many European countries continue to rely on imports from Russia, if not directly than via proxies like India. It's hilarious.
This entire conflict was started by the US to undermine and isolate Russia economically, diplomatically, and militarily. It has backfired spectaluarly... What it has achieved, on the other hand, is to fracture the global geopolitics and polarize it even more into West vs the rest. It has accelerated the separation of non-Western nations from US economy reliance and bullying as well as Western isolation.
You're right that 21C economy has to be a global one... and look at what has happened in the last few years. African countries are expelling US and European colonial powers and closing their borders to NATO military. So is South America. China and Russia are expanding their influence in those same areas. Even some European nations are starting to go against the grain. Look at Hungary, Romania, Greece, and Slovakia for starters. Look at Turkey.
Stop buying into the propaganda. It's costing us in the West more and more. They call it "inflation" and "cost of living increase" while the corporations and the military-industrial complex are posting record profits.
If I had a dollar for every bot o/
If I had a ruble for every bot, it wouldn't add up to one dollar but it'd still be a LOT of bots.
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I love these non-biased and fact-based analysis videos, thanks for keeping us informed!
Man... you're in for a rough awakening.
This man is so biased
This is biased...
@@abubakarkaila2616 What an incredibly well thought out and meaningful argument. I'm convinced you must be right!
Thanks for the good analysis