Which 4 link is best for air suspension?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @philippegauthier7869
    @philippegauthier7869 Год назад +16

    Your work is awesome . In France, nobody try to do things like you. What a pity, it's so fun to create with what you 've got in your backyard! Thanks for your videos, very good for the brain!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +2

      Merci beaucoup! I know a French Swiss guy that creates with back yard stuff and his name is also Philippe🙂

  • @Grizzmakes
    @Grizzmakes Год назад +6

    Man, Diff……..
    You really have evolved this channel into a whole load more than a Ratrods channel.
    You are teaching so many concepts that many of your viewers will be able to apply and transfer to their builds.
    Thanks again for all the education.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Thanks man, appreciate your words. I'm happy if I can manage to pass on a little knowledge.

  • @azchillers
    @azchillers Год назад +2

    Your excellent forrest engineering explanations are beyond comparison on YT.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Hey, thanks for the support! 👍And thanks for the great compliment!

  • @PaulAsselstine
    @PaulAsselstine Год назад +1

    With all your visual aids you must have been a school teacher at one time. Very helpful.......Thanks for teaching us!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Pleasure, happy if I can share some knowledge. Never was a school teacher though, they would have fired me😀

  • @aceadman
    @aceadman Год назад +1

    I’ma broken record, but i love watching you professor Div. I learn something new every episode. You are a master explainer among all your many talents. Thanks yet again! 😊👍👍

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Thanks brother. Happy if I can share a little knowledge and inspire

  • @rogerturley
    @rogerturley Год назад +2

    7:12 Extremely well explained. You went to a lot of trouble with your model but it helps to make it very clear. Kief!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thank you Roger! It helped to clarify things for me as well 🙂

  • @p.e.8149
    @p.e.8149 Год назад +1

    The forest engineering is awesome, and the effort put into explanation w/training aides shows you're not just another pretty face but there's some gray matter that works great. OG's unite!!!!!!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks. Got a few brain cells left, but the pretty face part doesn't work! Haha. OG's rule!!

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 Год назад +1

    Your drawings of the differential possible setups was excellent. Best diy build on RUclips.

  • @nv1493
    @nv1493 Год назад +1

    A key aspect of these videos is that you don't need complicated stuff to put together solid engineering.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Yes man, that's what "forest engineering" is all about!🙂

  • @dragontattooee
    @dragontattooee Год назад +2

    Honestly Div, you explain things very well. If I understand what your doing - and I do, your doing a great job. Have a lekka one Boet

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Happy to hear that man. Then it is mission accomplished 🙂

  • @nom8er
    @nom8er Год назад +1

    Thanks again, and I'll see you on the next one! 👍

  • @timhanson2080
    @timhanson2080 Год назад +1

    That's the best explanation I've ever heard about 4 link. Looks like a winner. Thanks for sharing 👍.

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. Год назад +1

    Div its coming its coming alone very nice so far. cant wait to see more on this project. Keep up the great craftsmanship an hard work
    div. fab On. weld On. Keep Making. God bless.

  • @mixerman1
    @mixerman1 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love how you take us into the classroom and show the theory in action...have a lekka one brother I am off to the next lesson

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks brother. Glad you are enjoying my carryings on!

  • @furgulley8077
    @furgulley8077 Год назад +3

    I love that your going with the watt's link. This is the same setup I want to run on my truck. (Parallel 4 link w/watt's link) You do such nice work!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thank you! We'll build the Watts link in the next video

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale6901 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the lessons on a 4 link rear suspension system.

  • @loratompho
    @loratompho Год назад +1

    Lekker Boet! Diff you are the real deal. You explain things so well. Love your work Pa!

  • @tommyelam4037
    @tommyelam4037 Год назад +4

    Always enjoy your videos Diff. You have a great knowledge and I learn a lot. I also believe your the only builder on RUclips that starts a project and finishes it. Keep up the good work

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks Tommy. I try to get stuff finished yes.🙂

  • @micartecca
    @micartecca Год назад +1

    Short and sweet today but still lots to learn. Thanks Brother for the knowledge shared

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Pleasure. Happy if I can share a little knowledge

  • @ArmstrongProds
    @ArmstrongProds Год назад +5

    Your attention to detail is outstanding! Really enjoy your projects. Keep up the good work Diff!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks man! Makes me happy if you enjoy it🙂

  • @randyhorton8369
    @randyhorton8369 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent explanation of the pinon angle. Thank you.

  • @danblythe2979
    @danblythe2979 Год назад +2

    Very nice tutorial on the four link designs. You make it so simple to understand.

  • @masterofnothingfabrication
    @masterofnothingfabrication Год назад +1

    Thanks for the effort ! If you ever get bored doing what you do You would be a fantastic teacher cheers for the demonstration

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Could never be a teacher, will teach the kids too many strange things 😂

    • @masterofnothingfabrication
      @masterofnothingfabrication Год назад +1

      @@ratrodsafrica the powers that be are teaching the strangest.....! I'm sure you could do no worse 😉

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      @@masterofnothingfabrication 😅

  • @diecastdemolition8521
    @diecastdemolition8521 Год назад +1

    Your the metal work teacher I should of had when I was in school, you make interesting content as well as cool rat rods

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks man! Think I would have been pretty rebellious teacher...

  • @Hellguy76131
    @Hellguy76131 Год назад +1

    I really dig your style man. I’m glad you chose a watts link. It’s gonna be sick.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Thanks Hellguy! Busy with the Wats link this week, will post video on Sunday

  • @alanpaulick7815
    @alanpaulick7815 Год назад +1

    There is only one way and that is the Diff Way. Lekka Diff thanks for sharing and explaining what you do. Take care.

  • @shedbythetracks
    @shedbythetracks Год назад +1

    I wasn't planning on it, but I learned something! Cheers from the shed

  • @psnaith1
    @psnaith1 Год назад +1

    dude your knowledge is simply amazing!

  • @magicman_metal_fab
    @magicman_metal_fab Год назад +1

    I’ve done the exact same thing with explaining front suspension geometry. Excellent job bud.

  • @RichardBrandonTeacup
    @RichardBrandonTeacup Год назад +1

    Howzit from a fellow Mosselbay resident.. found your channel yesterday.. awesome stuff keep it up.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Howzit Richard. Thanks, welcome to the shop!

  • @ishsiriram8286
    @ishsiriram8286 Год назад +1

    Looking Good Div. Thank you for sharing. Interested to see the Watts link. Keep the content flowing. Well done.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Thanks Ish. We'll do the Watts link in the next video!

  • @flatworm00
    @flatworm00 Год назад +2

    I enjoy your videos immensely. I learn a lot!

  • @Smokkedandslammed
    @Smokkedandslammed Год назад +1

    I just bought an LS1 5.7 aluminum short block with its heads and and bunch of other goodies to swap into my 2010 335i. It's staying manual, but I'll be shaving a ton of weight also swapping to RWD.
    Good work dude 🤙

  • @pdrake2572
    @pdrake2572 Год назад +3

    You've done a masterful job in building this suspension,,One thing that I want to input is that yor transmission and rear end doesn't have to be at the same angle because your universal joint will compensate though no doubt overall it would be best..Always the best overall work I've seen on youtube..Paul from Ohio..USA

    • @chuckster6513
      @chuckster6513 Год назад +1

      If the two angles are not the same, you will have vibration when the driveshaft is turning as well as early U joint failure.
      If the angles are too far apart the slip joint will not slide correctly.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Thank you Paul! I have to disagree with you. You want the transmission angle and pinion angle to be the same, but those centerlines do not have to line up (within limitation). This is to avoid vibration and weird oscillations. Check out this video by Aaron for a great visual demonstration: ruclips.net/video/YgNZfIR-8Ng/видео.html

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Spot on brother!

  • @shotsrodder
    @shotsrodder Год назад +1

    Great classroom exercise Div 👍

  • @letsbefrank6269
    @letsbefrank6269 Год назад +1

    Very interesting forest engineering explanation Dif. 9:07 😊

  • @davidwood1923
    @davidwood1923 Год назад +1

    You are One Smart Cookie... Div. Keep Up the Great Work

  • @LuisPerez-gl6xp
    @LuisPerez-gl6xp Год назад +1

    Awesome! Can't wait to see the watts link fabrication 👍

  • @timmaccowan
    @timmaccowan Год назад +1

    Always learning something watching your videos. Thanks so much. Keep up with the videos.

  • @joecioe8566
    @joecioe8566 Год назад +1

    Great tutorial on your 4-link design. I enjoy watching your videos.

  • @HIGHOUTPUTable
    @HIGHOUTPUTable Год назад +1

    It must have been chilly there in Africa i see you are all wearing your hard hats ... great video , looking forward to seeing you build a watts link ! ! " with lots of speed holes !o!

  • @terrencebuller7676
    @terrencebuller7676 Год назад +1

    Hello Div, another great program, really like the 4 link set up, good work Boet. Take care and have a Lekka day. 👍

  • @tommyg7381
    @tommyg7381 Год назад +1

    Looks cooler every episode

  • @geoffreymills9932
    @geoffreymills9932 Год назад +1

    Lookin great and working awesome, nice work Div

  • @ezekielmoorejr3145
    @ezekielmoorejr3145 Год назад +1

    I personally don't have a lot of experience with a 4 link system, so thank you for the education on that subject. And as always looking good my friend!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Thanks, happy if I can share a little knowledge!

  • @charlietabone6162
    @charlietabone6162 Год назад +1

    I like what you just showed me about the penguin angle that's gonna help me in the future on my four Link set up. Love your videos

  • @littlepaddy7444
    @littlepaddy7444 Год назад +2

    Nice piece of engineering Div. Albert's portrait looks good on the wall but what about his brother Frank? See you next video.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks boet. Only Frank that impressed me had the surname Zappa 😂

  • @robbollom7396
    @robbollom7396 Год назад +1

    great work again Diff.....

  • @davidweidner1675
    @davidweidner1675 Год назад +1

    Lekka Div great explanation on 4 link

  • @distinctiveleatherworketc.5489
    @distinctiveleatherworketc.5489 Год назад +1

    I was so hoping you were going to say "i'm going to use a watts link", and then you did...nice!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Yes, video on the Watts link build will be out in an hours time!🙂

  • @DustyMacsGarage
    @DustyMacsGarage Год назад +1

    Loved the video Boet!!! The forest engineering and visuals were a awesome touch!!! I again learned a ton from your videos!!! Im gonna end up with some degree after obtaining all this knowledge Boet!!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +2

      By the end of the year, you will obtain the degree in Forest Engineering! Need to find you one of those funny hats😂

    • @DustyMacsGarage
      @DustyMacsGarage Год назад +2

      @@ratrodsafrica thats for sure Div!!! Its awesome your passing on your knowledge!!

  • @stucook8622
    @stucook8622 Год назад +1

    Thanks for another cool video Div! Take it easy...peace🍺

  • @apere003
    @apere003 Год назад +1

    Looking good brother....headed to Arizona for family summer vacation soon from Texas...may try finding a project in Arizona

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks boet! Enjoy that vacation and the warm weather. Its winter here now, brrr! Yeah, go dig out something in the rust free desert 😄

  • @robertdelaney5994
    @robertdelaney5994 Год назад +2

    It all makes sense to me .

  • @keithballinger5081
    @keithballinger5081 Год назад +1

    Beautiful job Diff, looks awesome.

  • @robertamor3203
    @robertamor3203 Год назад +1

    another great videoi love watching you working out the probloms has you go have a nice one diff and your family

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks Robert! Now if I could only figure out my wife on a piece of plywood...😂

  • @bart9859
    @bart9859 Год назад +1

    Hey Dif,
    Good video. I can't wait for next week, because I'm think I may build a Watt's Link if I go with the parallel 4-link for my current project. Right now I'm still in the planning stage. I have most of the bits, just need some time and a little cooler temps outside. I'm sure glad You Tube allows myself or yourself to go back and edit you message. Right now my glasses are (put in swear word here). My new ones should be here next week, I hope.🤠
    Bart

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks Bart. Know about the glasses, have the same problem every year! 🙂

  • @barrypickle7064
    @barrypickle7064 Год назад

    Dude this channel is awesome. Love the step by step. Keep up the good work.

  • @fredflintstoner596
    @fredflintstoner596 Год назад +1

    LOOKING GOOD !

  • @DoonerF
    @DoonerF Год назад +1

    Love it! I’m always learning here. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @erneststevenson3872
    @erneststevenson3872 Год назад +1

    Mnr. Devilliers, you definitely need an electric powered remote controlled chain hoist for your workshop. With that addition your happiness will increase greatly.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Wayne is my remote controlled motor! Haha

  • @adamosborne4053
    @adamosborne4053 Год назад +1

    Looking good brotha enjoy watching what u come up with

  • @eddiealford3579
    @eddiealford3579 Год назад +1

    I really enjoy ur videos the way u explain all of what it doin I great I really appreciate how u explain things ur a great builder and teacher I have learned a lot from watching u it seems u n ur fryer having cooler weather than here n the states but keep up the great videos and till next time my friend 👍👍👍👍

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thank you Eddie. Glad you are enjoying!

    • @eddiealford3579
      @eddiealford3579 Год назад

      Dang Mr D I just reread my comment and I meant to say friends wr having cooler weather lol

  • @danielpancu9841
    @danielpancu9841 Год назад +1

    Un aplauso para ti Duff... has realizado una clase de geometria, y tu dices forestal... jaaaa, realmente excelente!! Mis respetos!!

  • @morneviljoen6733
    @morneviljoen6733 Год назад +1

    Howzit Div,
    Mad PAD skills... it makes so much more sense on your design...keep up the awesome work....that engine looks good...can't wait for the 1st start up... keep safe and warm ...and gooi🌽🌽🌽

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Hey, ek vergeet nie van daai mielies nie! 😂 Thanks boet!

  • @sharndupreez1
    @sharndupreez1 Год назад +1

    Lekker Forest Engineering 😮

  • @RatRodBobBuilds
    @RatRodBobBuilds Год назад +2

    Well dangit Diff! You just learned an old fart something new. Carry on brother!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Hey Bob. Exchange of knowledge my man, I been learning some stuff from you videos too🙂 The day we stop learning is when they put us in a box😅

  • @franzbodmer3301
    @franzbodmer3301 Год назад +1

    outstanding explanation!

  • @zombietherapy1759
    @zombietherapy1759 Год назад +1

    Take your time. It's just cool.

  • @kennethcroll6972
    @kennethcroll6972 Год назад +1

    hi dif, you made that look so easy. great work

  • @robertwilliams8010
    @robertwilliams8010 Год назад +1

    Awesome Div!

  • @janwiersma1449
    @janwiersma1449 Год назад +1

    great explanation again Diff. thanks.
    I am allready waiting for the next one, because I shouted PANHARD BAR in sterio with You, but thinking about it I wonder how the behavour will be in this set-up.
    and how it will maintain the center of the axle in full movement. if You see what I mean. hmmm interesting.
    maybe a P.A.D. visual demonstration from the rear perspective in the next video. 👌👍.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад +1

      Aha! I'm shouting Watts link Jan! Better behavior than the Panhard bar for my application. I will do the PAD thing in the next video or 2.

  • @joshuadille5005
    @joshuadille5005 Год назад +1

    Love it deff im looking forward to the end result!! Keep jamming brother. O hay rat rod bob check this out. Lol two fellas that get it done.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks brother! Me and Bob got some things in common.

    • @joshuadille5005
      @joshuadille5005 Год назад +1

      @@ratrodsafrica ya but man you are definitely next level. We won’t you at sema show lol just the thought and exaction on some of your stuff. Jut wow !

  • @hoagiesherlin7732
    @hoagiesherlin7732 Год назад +1

    Killer work man

  • @JimmyMakingitwork
    @JimmyMakingitwork Год назад +2

    If you do the chassis and Bad Chad does the body you'd have one awesome ride!

  • @dwaynecoomber6610
    @dwaynecoomber6610 Год назад +1

    Looking good 👍 👌 😎

  • @stashwaxroller1740
    @stashwaxroller1740 Год назад +1

    From the looks of the hats ,shoes and coats, winter is approaching in SA. Starting to get hot here in central US. Another good tutorial on 4 link geometry. Are you sure you have never been a professional teacher ? Perhaps you should have with your abilities to explain . Good Job man!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thanks boet. Yes man, its cold now. Nothing like your winter, but cold for us!🙂 I could never be a teacher in the modern world, will kill too many kids😂

  • @gmray7301
    @gmray7301 Год назад +1

    It looks awesome

  • @kennethturner8994
    @kennethturner8994 Год назад +1

    I like your work doing it on a budget, looks like it’s getting cold down your way.

  • @markrobertson9015
    @markrobertson9015 Год назад +1

    Looks great I thought you were installing rear Air bags. If not but your installing shocks you could use coil overs and a pan hard bar. You were saying your pinion angle changes due to up and down travel. I thought torque is what changes pinion angle.you set it a little lower than your trans angle so when you accelerate the pinion angle moves up to meet your trans angle.. your car your build I'm sure what ever you come up with it's probably right take care diff looking forward to seeing what's next.

  • @sufferedenuf
    @sufferedenuf Год назад +1

    Great work! Now it brings the question, how the hell do some cars have 4wheel steering like some corvettes? It's crazy.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thank you. Yes, that's a whole different ballgame 😅

  • @RichieCat4223
    @RichieCat4223 Год назад +1

    3:04 The quote I like from Einstein is "Man has a finite mind, but lives in an infinite world."
    I see you with a watch/skull cap on. I guess winter is setting in.

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Ah man, Einstein had a whole bunch of great quotes! That one is good too. Yes, in the Southern hemisphere everything is the other way round, winter is here!

    • @RichieCat4223
      @RichieCat4223 Год назад +1

      @@ratrodsafrica Thanks

  • @bruceslattengren8587
    @bruceslattengren8587 Год назад +1

    Looks like you got this engineering business down good luck with the rest of the build keep on keeping on 😊

  • @donniehodge2548
    @donniehodge2548 Год назад +1

    Another good video Diff KEEP THEM COMING 👏 🇺🇲 👌

  • @adampilkington8379
    @adampilkington8379 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome job brother!! Looks amazing!! I have a 2018 gmc I want to lower not sure what way to go as I live in Canada 🇨🇦 Montreal Quebec!!

  • @andrewerickson6690
    @andrewerickson6690 Год назад +1

    I'd say the one that is completed and functions as per the builders desires is best

  • @TheFrameoff
    @TheFrameoff Год назад +1

    Very Nice ... Build On

  • @johnnymac1580
    @johnnymac1580 Год назад +1

    That’s exactly how I would do it ⚡️

  • @stuffdexdoes223
    @stuffdexdoes223 Год назад +1

    Love it

  • @Motorhead-y3
    @Motorhead-y3 Год назад +1

    Plywood Geometry 🤟👍

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Better than paper cause you can make it move around 😀

  • @dakotaman4621
    @dakotaman4621 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the education. I'm struggling with the angle of the drive shaft. The transmission and the differential are at the same angle, but won't the drive shaft hit the cross loop that holds the ends of your torsion bars?
    Keep the videos coming, I learn one item on every one. Have A Lucky One. 🤠

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      The plan is for a 2 piece drive shaft with carrier bearing underneath that cross member. We'll find out how it works 🙂

  • @dougstaner1220
    @dougstaner1220 Год назад +1

    Constructed and designed like an engineer. You must have a background in Mechanical engineering Dif. Is there going to be an issue with the drive shaft angle? It seems the elevation will cause a negative approach angle from differential to transmission or am I just not seeing the whole business out of ride level. Will we see some kind of dampening for the front suspension? Very interesting design. I am sure we are all wondering how well it will ride and handle. Love your program and how you present the ideas. Thank you Diff for your time. Very interesting!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thank you Doug. Yes, well observed regarding the drive shaft, some challenges ahead. But we will figure it out.🙂 I will fit shocks up front in the original location.

  • @darwinfoster7420
    @darwinfoster7420 Год назад +1

    You will also need a lanyard bar to keep rear axle centered .

  • @jerrydodd6113
    @jerrydodd6113 Год назад +1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, Diff, but from the angle that I am looking, it looks like the driveshaft will cut through your beautifully made crossmember with the holes in it. I can't get a good enough look to be able to connect the tail shaft to the differential yoke. I hope it is an illusion! Great video as usual!

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      I'm thinking 2 piece drive shaft with carrier bearing. We will see how it works out

    • @jerrydodd6113
      @jerrydodd6113 Год назад +1

      I was also thinking that was a good fix if possible!

  • @mitchbarber3468
    @mitchbarber3468 Год назад +1

    Center diff to inside frame rail

  • @mitchbarber3468
    @mitchbarber3468 Год назад +1

    Now add the stabilizer bar from center of different to keep it centered from moving side to side

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      I will be building a Watts link in the next video to prevent sideways movement

  • @chopshopart
    @chopshopart Год назад +1

    Awesome

  • @lesorcierharleyus5543
    @lesorcierharleyus5543 Год назад +1

    Good Man adjutment 👍👍

  • @johnrosen4569
    @johnrosen4569 Год назад +1

    hi my name is johnny blaze i live in forida i love your video your doing good it s my best show to watch good job get back to me i what to visit you i need a vacation see ya

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 Год назад +1

    Sir very awesome Video on your Rat Rod. Have you ever Watch Rat Rod Bob Builds? Maybe you two get together on a Build?

    • @ratrodsafrica
      @ratrodsafrica  Год назад

      Thank you. Yes, seen some of Bob's videos. We communicate quite often, but he is a LONG way from me!🙂