@@Xerock I liked Beltran here. How he says he is a man of peace but quite happy with the torture. Harry is not even good as a baddie. The Doctor is terrifying.
The second I saw the gloves, the missing combadges and the haircut of Janeway a few seconds into the episode I knew this was going to be mirror universe. Unfortunately not, but still very nice.
"They've left me no choice." Something so funny about this line. It's like she's said it for the 900th time and is more of a quip than a statement of fact.
Man, how awful it would be to be the backup version of The Doctor who was the "living witness" in this episode? "Good morning! It's 700 years in the future, all your friends are dead, you're a specimen in a museum that tells everyone you were Space Nazis." Didn't anyone on Voyager spare a thought for this poor bastard left behind? "Uh, Captain, I can't find my other hardcopy of... me..." "Meh, fugetdaboudit, we got plenty. Warp 8, Mr. Paris!"
This was a good episode, but I don't understand how the crew were 'remembered' like this! Even with Kazon ( who the Kyrians didn't even know) on board? Guess you need to suspend believability...put it this way, if I was a Starfleet admiral, and saw this as what the Kyrians 'remembered', I'd be asking Janeway some tough questions!
Drewism if things get too dicey just call up species 8472... promose them they’ll not give the borg any more biogenictorpedos if yetanother planet is smoked
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE that hair tho. If bald they would have looked more menacing. obviously they needed to be written better. (literal lines to not pass for prisoners lol) it could have gone a long way.
I like this Janeway. She gives the order to hail AFTER she gives the order to fire. She becomes annoyed because the casualty rate isn't high enough. She restores order by shooting out a console. She kills Tedran personally. And best of all, she has her own Borg goons!
DLordSadow I love the fake concern in her voice at 2:47 when she said they left her no choice. almost like "I was going to be merciful and just kill them, but since they went and made that difficult I'll have to send the Borg to fuck them up"
Eric Madsen I firmly believe that the voyager staff wanted to make a mirror universe episode for the show, but given the MU timeline ds9 created a mirror voyager would never have existed, so they made this episode.
Garrett was told to play harry basically wooden. I feel sorry for the garrett, the few times he was allowed to act he did it well. sure he's not doing so bad from syndication $$ Also is that the same tattoo on Chakotay as q had on his face? And did harry call him chuckletay😅
@@bobkilla430 .... Janeway called him that in another clip of this ep. Have not seen the ep but as I understand it this is being told by an alien in the far future and is a distorted version of events in that planet's past hence the name and other changes in the ship\crew.
@Kelvin Carter He was an android in the Kyrian's made up story. They got everything wrong and made The Doctor an android instead of an EMH. Point of revisionist history.
According to the newly released comic book series by IDW entitled "Star Trek: Mirror Broken" the I.S.S Stargazer is still patrolling what's left of the Terran Empire (I won't spoil the rest of issue 1)
Wouter Terran Empire, unlike the prime universe where humans unite with Vulcans, Tellerites and Andorians to make the UFP, humans enslave those races and many others.
YouKevo That's why everybody loves the alt reality episodes. The Enterprise one was great because they even did the open titles in line with the alt reality.
@@dphorgan I like the alt reality Enterprise intro (can't stand the regular one). And I like how it is set exclusively in the mirror universe, with no interaction with the prime universe at all.
No. At least not initially. There’s no way the guy could say much if he’s screaming in unbearable agony. The guy probably agreed to cooperate, the neural solvent was reversed, the guy was pumped for intel, and then Chakotay either let Kim beat him to death or let the Doctor re-inject him with the solvent, or just shot him.
They could have easily did a mirror universe story where ISS Voyager was an Terran Empire ship that survived the fall of the Empire to The Alliance and was hiding in the badlands to make repairs when the Caretaker pulled it into the Delta Quadrant. The Empire was fatally crippled by a war with the Borg whom they conquered but not before the Klingons and Cardassians formed the Alliance and declared war on them.
7of9: Two of the kirans are still alive what would you like us to do with them. Janeway: You've been wanting to expand your fighting force assimilate them.
PMS doesn't actually make people go crazy. That's just stupid, ignorant and sexist garbage that someone made up a long time ago. It's also a form of "gaslighting" (suggesting that women's problems stem from their biology, and not from their environment). I know you're just being funny and you probably didn't mean anything, and I don't want to be a buzzkill, but this really should be brought to light.
I find that PMS CAN trigger a heightened sensitivity to certain remarks and other such things when my girl has it but maybe that's just really bad luck on my part.
Here's where I think they got the idea for Chakotay's enlarged tattoo, covering half his face. In an ear,y episode, Q asks Janeway what her attraction to Chakotay was. 'Is it the tattoo? Well-MINE'S BIGGER!' 😂😂😂
"Don't use that hyperspanner, you'll give him irreversible brain damage and look like a savage doing it.." .."Let me liquefy his fucking brain instead"
Even without a mirror episode (which this episode came the closest to) Voyager could still come up with ways to depict our heroes as villains. "Worse Case Scenario" and "Author, Author" are also cases in point. The comic books have explored Mirror Voyager. It also ends up in the Delta Quadrant, but unlike our Janeway, Mirror Janeway likes it that way and isn't striking out for the Alpha Quadrant. She has seized the opportunity for pirating and set herself up as the Pirate Queen of the Delta Quadrant.
This is every Voyagers fans wet dream. Seeing Janeway and Voyager being on the offensive, as apposed to being on the defensive. When you think about it, had Janeway and Voyager abandon thier Starfleet principles, they'd be unstoppable. Voyager already is a formidable starship, with advanced technology and the crew are practically geniuses across the fields of mathematics, physics, genetics and medicine. If you throw in the technology and knowledge they've acquired over the years in the Delta Quadrant, it'd be enough to rival Thanos the collector of Infinity Stones.
woh! Borg working with Voyager?! I have indeed missed a lot by not finding the whole series online and binge-watching it...oh, wait, this is not the 24th century, things still cost money. One thing I lack and is not as easily attainable as one might think...
I think the answer to all the star trek crybabies about new show deviating from cannon should be a new show featuring a truly evil star trek using this as a model. It would be war all the time, no mercy blood lust as the federation is turned into a galaxy dealing death machine and the borg the result of the rest of the galaxy uniting to stop them LOL
The new shows seem to have trouble staying consistent from episode to episode, but then _Trek_ has almost always had _that_ issue. It's the poor writing and characterization that gets to me: Everyone's a jerk in the Contest of the Ultimate Jerk in _STD_ , and yet nothing can get done without Mikey Spock being in the room. And while I haven't seen _STP_ for myself yet, from what I've seen Picard is an incompetent old coot who does nothing, and the showrunners are well on their way to killing off every fan favourite character from previous shows in the franchise. Often in a gruesome manner. Also feels like we're just waiting for Mikey Spock to show up and 'fix everything.' Neither _STD_ nor _STP_ have the inspirational, optimistic vision that previous entries had, even when hey got dark, like _DS9_ .
I was getting some real Casino vibes when Chakotay was interrogating that captive...I was really hoping Chakotay would say "Don't make me be the bad guy...", then the captive would say "Fuck YOU....", then, well you know the rest. And then the doctor would apply that "vise in a hypospray" to get answers... >:D
I just realized something about this episode if it takes place 700 years in the future it would be 3074 give or take wouldn't StarFleet be exploring the Delta Quadrant by then Q said they would be exploring it in the 29th century so Wouldn't they be able to rectify this situation?
By 'Starfleet' do you mean the Terran Empire? But yes, in _Star Trek Online_ , by 2409 Starfleet has begun deeper explorations of the Delta Quadrant -- an endeavour further assisted by the Jenolan Dyson Sphere's reappearance (it's the same one Scotty had been recovered from _USS Jenolan_ in the _TNG_ episode 'Relics),' along with its attendant Iconian Gateway.
Everyone saying there should be more of this, but I mostly think of the fact that this episode was like parody of edgy stuff, yet nowadays Star Trek just unironically tries to be like this…
Luckily though they tried they couldn't get rid of all the borg improvements they got over the years. Like especially the improvements Seven had saved their lives several times.
So is this episode set in another timeline? Because they do eventually get back to the alpha quadrant later on. In this episode, however, it seems that they crash on some planet in the Delta quadrant - end of story. Could someone explain to me how does this feed into the overall storyline?
Know its late now, but no. This episode is set around a planet that Voyager visited 700 years ago, during a war between two species, in this case they rewrote their history (not time travel but documents) to make Voyager out to be the bad guys and themselves as the heroes fighting them. A backup of the EMH was stolen by one of the species and later recovered and activated leading to comparing the real events that happened and the events that were believed to have happened, the curator slowly comes around since part of the errors they have was believing the doctor was a cyborg not a hologram, but their laws state holograms have the same rights so he could face punishment for the 'crimes' they committed. The story ends set even further into the future (around 3000+ad) where the doctor leaves the planet to return home having secured peace between the two species and helped fix voyagers reputation. Over all its a really good episode to watch.
Voyager debris? Is that the one where it crashes on an ice planet testing out a new drive, if so that was an aborted timeline, Harry and Chakotay survived in the shuttle and managed to change history a few decades later in that one by providing the right data to Seven to save the ship, that future was then deleted.
The funniest borderline mirror universe episode in the sense that unlike "TNG" or "DS9" (and that's mostly cause of Sisko), with the exception of Janeway (and even here this is out of character for her), the whole gang are likable and don't believe in the mental hospital "crazy"-saying bullshit, so for them to be evil in an arrogant way just comes off as unbelievable. It makes this episode unintentionally funny. No one trying to get home engages in oppression. XD The revisionist account of Seven of Nine is the only believably arrogant character, because she used to do the things she does in this episode, except that it make the Borg in this episode more into revenge than even the Borg as they were on "Voyager" (and they were petty monsters on "Voyager" as opposed to the cyborg killing machines they were on "TNG" and "DS9").
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they should have made a whole series of this
Seriously, Mulgrew does play a better villain.
mirror universe voyager!
unematrix I think I would have bought her better as captain if they made her more of a Kirk type captain, but I could be wrong.
Perhaps they might have, if this was from the mirror universe. However this never happened, it's a complete fiction; history erroneously related .
The mirror universe probably just got lost in the delta quadrant due to her inability to follow directions.
Doctor: You can't hit him with that, he has to be able to speak
Also Doctor: Let me just melt his brain
🤣🤣🤣
If Voyager was a strategy game, this is how people would play it.
Zero Messiah Yea, this Voyager crew isn't fucking around.
That borg crew is awesome
Can that like be a thing though?
Lol was thinking exactly the same while watching the episode :D Brutally efficient!
I'd get them home in a week.
"I am a man of peace" lol
He was sooooo cringe the ENTIRE TIME
Good cop, bad cop routine. LMAO.
Ugh, the delivery was so flat though. Beltran and Wang were so wooden throughout the entire series, too.
@@Xerock I liked Beltran here. How he says he is a man of peace but quite happy with the torture. Harry is not even good as a baddie. The Doctor is terrifying.
A man of peace? Aren't they all.. then you hail the Empire
The most evil looking accessory...black leather gloves. Even for the holographic doctor.
mngentry they probably got the idea from O.J. Simpson. 😅
I dunno...looks like their gloves actually fit. :P
He's portrayed as an android no hologram in the story
Notice they even changed the sound of the hypospray, giving it an evil sounding zing instead of the calm psss from before hahah!
The second I saw the gloves, the missing combadges and the haircut of Janeway a few seconds into the episode I knew this was going to be mirror universe. Unfortunately not, but still very nice.
I love Tuvok's scumbag evil smirk
"They've left me no choice." Something so funny about this line. It's like she's said it for the 900th time and is more of a quip than a statement of fact.
I'm a man of peace beating saying this while still beating the crap out of him
@@raven4k998 - that doesn't make sense.
@@markfox1545 sssshhhh don't think about it to hard or your mind will explode🤣🤣🤣
considering what we seen in the Delta Quadrant i can believe that.
Dom Janeway: I need a "They've left me no choice." sign
1:36 Even the hypospray is made to sound evil,lol
Warbird Phoenix lovely little touch
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Evil injection sounds intensify
Man, how awful it would be to be the backup version of The Doctor who was the "living witness" in this episode?
"Good morning! It's 700 years in the future, all your friends are dead, you're a specimen in a museum that tells everyone you were Space Nazis."
Didn't anyone on Voyager spare a thought for this poor bastard left behind?
"Uh, Captain, I can't find my other hardcopy of... me..."
"Meh, fugetdaboudit, we got plenty. Warp 8, Mr. Paris!"
Especially that well within the timeline of the show, the EMH Mark 1's all ended up as slave miners.
This was a good episode, but I don't understand how the crew were 'remembered' like this! Even with Kazon ( who the Kyrians didn't even know) on board? Guess you need to suspend believability...put it this way, if I was a Starfleet admiral, and saw this as what the Kyrians 'remembered', I'd be asking Janeway some tough questions!
@@alexanderjones9572 Centuries of propaganda, lost info, etc...it would be very easy for the truth to be lost and twisted
Lmao Kazon and Borg as security? Pretty much unstoppable.
Drewism if things get too dicey just call up species 8472... promose them they’ll not give the borg any more biogenictorpedos if yetanother planet is smoked
This is how I knew this was a fantasy... no body would EVER use a Kazon for a tactical ally... lamest/boring villains in Trek evar
@@MedalionDS9 good for cannon fodder.
@@KLamki1 a waste of a good makeup and costume design. They look strikingly good for a TV alien.
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE that hair tho. If bald they would have looked more menacing. obviously they needed to be written better. (literal lines to not pass for prisoners lol) it could have gone a long way.
I like this Janeway. She gives the order to hail AFTER she gives the order to fire. She becomes annoyed because the casualty rate isn't high enough. She restores order by shooting out a console. She kills Tedran personally. And best of all, she has her own Borg goons!
DLordSadow I love the fake concern in her voice at 2:47 when she said they left her no choice. almost like "I was going to be merciful and just kill them, but since they went and made that difficult I'll have to send the Borg to fuck them up"
Jarsia Remind anyone of the mirror star trek universe.
Eric Madsen I firmly believe that the voyager staff wanted to make a mirror universe episode for the show, but given the MU timeline ds9 created a mirror voyager would never have existed, so they made this episode.
Jarsia And what an interesting episode it was.
And then the slight hint of glee when she says, "Computer, initiate the Borg activation sequence."
Kim was always a boring and underutilized character, but Garrett clearly had fun here.
Love how he ducks under the railing at the end
Its Harry's version of the Riker's chair maneuver.
Kim was making me think of Chekov on TOS "Mirror Mirror".
A harmless guy who becomes a killer. 😂😂😂😂
Garrett was told to play harry basically wooden. I feel sorry for the garrett, the few times he was allowed to act he did it well. sure he's not doing so bad from syndication $$
Also is that the same tattoo on Chakotay as q had on his face? And did harry call him chuckletay😅
@@bobkilla430 .... Janeway called him that in another clip of this ep. Have not seen the ep but as I understand it this is being told by an alien in the far future and is a distorted version of events in that planet's past hence the name and other changes in the ship\crew.
@@jackgibsxxx0750 that's what most of the episode is about
The evil Android doctor was a nice touch. And the short haircut on Janeway does something for me.
@Kelvin Carter He was an android in the Kyrian's made up story. They got everything wrong and made The Doctor an android instead of an EMH. Point of revisionist history.
This episode and 'Author, author' REALLY make me wish that they'd given us an ISS Voyager
ISS?
The Terran Empire alternate universe, look up the Star Trek episode Mirror, Mirror.
But, as shown on DS9, the Terrans after the events of Mirror,Mirror are slaves.
According to the newly released comic book series by IDW entitled "Star Trek: Mirror Broken" the I.S.S Stargazer is still patrolling what's left of the Terran Empire (I won't spoil the rest of issue 1)
Wouter Terran Empire, unlike the prime universe where humans unite with Vulcans, Tellerites and Andorians to make the UFP, humans enslave those races and many others.
This was a great episode. The crew fitted the evil roles very well - just like in the Original Star Trek and Deep Space Nine episodes.
YouKevo That's why everybody loves the alt reality episodes. The Enterprise one was great because they even did the open titles in line with the alt reality.
@@dphorgan I like the alt reality Enterprise intro (can't stand the regular one). And I like how it is set exclusively in the mirror universe, with no interaction with the prime universe at all.
Considering it was the Mirror Universe in all but name, definitely.
This was one of my favorite episodes! I love the "dark"/evil crew!!
3:35 Her bored demeanour when neutralising him was quite terrifying. ;*(
She's like 'monday afternoon and I have to deal with this shit'.
STEJTHEGREATEST great actress
The doctors voice in this episode is what I imagine the voice of death sounds like.
At least this version of Chakotay doesn't have a fucking wooden flute playing whenever he brings up his enlightened Native people...
AtenRa loved his totally BS good cop routine
3:25We are the Voyager.Resistance is futile
Well they did have a still Borg-ified Seven on board with her ever growing drone task force
I know she said "They've left me no choice" but all I heard was "Look out Ned, it's coming right for us!"
Chakotay: "He was very cooperative in the end."
That horrible. That means that Chakotay let the doctors chemicals melt his brain.
No. At least not initially. There’s no way the guy could say much if he’s screaming in unbearable agony. The guy probably agreed to cooperate, the neural solvent was reversed, the guy was pumped for intel, and then Chakotay either let Kim beat him to death or let the Doctor re-inject him with the solvent, or just shot him.
Every Starfleet vessel should have a pet Borg security detachment. They are highly effective.
This episode is the reason I wear leather gloves when bossing people around at work!
They could have easily did a mirror universe story where ISS Voyager was an Terran Empire ship that survived the fall of the Empire to The Alliance and was hiding in the badlands to make repairs when the Caretaker pulled it into the Delta Quadrant. The Empire was fatally crippled by a war with the Borg whom they conquered but not before the Klingons and Cardassians formed the Alliance and declared war on them.
The Terran empire fell in the 23rd century voyager wouldn’t have been launched yet.
7of9: Two of the kirans are still alive what would you like us to do with them. Janeway: You've been wanting to expand your fighting force assimilate them.
7of9: We understand
Alternate Janeway is so badass, she has Borg and Kazons as pets.
What if she had a Hirogen hunting party at her disposal?
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 That’s probably who Janeway sent to seize Tedran.
It must’ve been fun to play evil characters
Remember folks, he's a man of peace even after smacking you in the face!
Janeway: "I have P.M.S., a fully equipped warship, and my own Borg Assault team!
Don't f*** with me!"
PMS doesn't actually make people go crazy. That's just stupid, ignorant and sexist garbage that someone made up a long time ago. It's also a form of "gaslighting" (suggesting that women's problems stem from their biology, and not from their environment).
I know you're just being funny and you probably didn't mean anything, and I don't want to be a buzzkill, but this really should be brought to light.
I find that PMS CAN trigger a heightened sensitivity to certain remarks and other such things when my girl has it but maybe that's just really bad luck on my part.
And if janeway gets tired of a planet: “contact species 8472”
(Planet is destroyed)
Evil Voyager is just strangely satisfying. Does anyone else wonder what they might be like if they were Evil?
"Stand aside, Chakotay. Let me hit him". Probably Harrys best role. He should be in charge. xD
They must have had so much fun making this episode!
My favorite part of my favorite voyager episde, thank you. :-)o
0:49 Even in the mirror universe, Harry Kim still gets owned, at least once per episode!!!!
The moment when Red takes over Janeway's mind. xD
"No doubt you are experiencing a tingling sensation behind your eyes".
“Believe me, he was very cooperative in the end”... LOL
Love how calm and collected everyone even though they are evil as fuck
Basically Voyager's version of Yesterday's Enterprise
Here's where I think they got the idea for Chakotay's enlarged tattoo, covering half his face. In an ear,y episode, Q asks Janeway what her attraction to Chakotay was. 'Is it the tattoo? Well-MINE'S BIGGER!' 😂😂😂
Since I'm binging on the series this month, I remembered that scene with Q when I saw Chakotay's tattoo...
Plot twist: Harry has a lot of anger because he hasn’t been promoted in 5 years.
The dark alter-egos are cool AF.
I like to think that if the Terran Empire survived to the 24th century, this is what a Mirror Universe Voyager would be like.
"Don't use that hyperspanner, you'll give him irreversible brain damage and look like a savage doing it.."
.."Let me liquefy his fucking brain instead"
"I'm saddened that this happened to you" top kek!
One of the BEST all time Voyager Episodes. I liked End Game too, but this was far more interesting! :D
Even without a mirror episode (which this episode came the closest to) Voyager could still come up with ways to depict our heroes as villains. "Worse Case Scenario" and "Author, Author" are also cases in point.
The comic books have explored Mirror Voyager. It also ends up in the Delta Quadrant, but unlike our Janeway, Mirror Janeway likes it that way and isn't striking out for the Alpha Quadrant. She has seized the opportunity for pirating and set herself up as the Pirate Queen of the Delta Quadrant.
Should've said "There are 4 Kierans in the engine room. I don't want there to be. Make it so."
This is every Voyagers fans wet dream. Seeing Janeway and Voyager being on the offensive, as apposed to being on the defensive. When you think about it, had Janeway and Voyager abandon thier Starfleet principles, they'd be unstoppable. Voyager already is a formidable starship, with advanced technology and the crew are practically geniuses across the fields of mathematics, physics, genetics and medicine. If you throw in the technology and knowledge they've acquired over the years in the Delta Quadrant, it'd be enough to rival Thanos the collector of Infinity Stones.
Also, in that simulation the crew adresses Janeway as "sir", which in reality she doesn't like :D
3:39 "Resistance is futile."
In the mirror universe the Borg run crying from Starfleet
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE
✊
Janeway afterwards 'Thank !!@@!! no one back home will actually realise this is how one race remembers us as representatives of the Federation!'
woh! Borg working with Voyager?! I have indeed missed a lot by not finding the whole series online and binge-watching it...oh, wait, this is not the 24th century, things still cost money. One thing I lack and is not as easily attainable as one might think...
1:54 Looks like Harry is enjoying watching the guy suffer
Clearly he is a casual sadist
It's very Mirror Universe
I can keep this up all day..smack maybe I cant keep this up all day! I so wish they could have done a season of Evil Tos, TNG, VoY.
Captain Asia
Before Renegade Shepard, we had Warship Janeway.
imagine having your own borg squad.
that would be op on all starfleet ships.
3:35......I think he's actually enjoying being trapped in Seven's grip hahah!
The real Janeway didn't like to be called "sir".
I like how all of Voyagers crew are wearing gloves.
When I first saw this episode, I was like... What the hell is this?!?
Brilliant episode.
looks like Chakotay here took a few pointers from Q.
"Is it the tattoo? because... mine's BIGGER!"
This would be Voyager in the Mirror Universe.
ISS Voager
The Mirror Darkly version of voyager.
oh chikotay letting out his inner apache LOL.
My People are enlightened, POW!
I wonder if they ever make a new series if they can show the backup of the doctor making it home, or making a mention of it.
0:55 _I'm a man of peace_ . Gotta love it when they say that as they're torturing you! :D
Chakotay good cop/Kim bad cop.
Chakotay is not the one doing the torturing... doesn't mean he has to stop people from doing it
3:00 state your instructions... why am i laughing so much lool
i keep remebering it as State Your Will, which i think is a Zerg response in StarCraft, which fits this episode perfectly
Remember this when your hippie history teacher trashes the past
I think the answer to all the star trek crybabies about new show deviating from cannon should be a new show featuring a truly evil star trek using this as a model. It would be war all the time, no mercy blood lust as the federation is turned into a galaxy dealing death machine and the borg the result of the rest of the galaxy uniting to stop them LOL
The mirror universe, but even more evil and focused? Shut up and take my money!
Discovery advertise as canon but clearly not. THAT is the issue
The new shows seem to have trouble staying consistent from episode to episode, but then _Trek_ has almost always had _that_ issue. It's the poor writing and characterization that gets to me: Everyone's a jerk in the Contest of the Ultimate Jerk in _STD_ , and yet nothing can get done without Mikey Spock being in the room. And while I haven't seen _STP_ for myself yet, from what I've seen Picard is an incompetent old coot who does nothing, and the showrunners are well on their way to killing off every fan favourite character from previous shows in the franchise. Often in a gruesome manner. Also feels like we're just waiting for Mikey Spock to show up and 'fix everything.' Neither _STD_ nor _STP_ have the inspirational, optimistic vision that previous entries had, even when hey got dark, like _DS9_ .
I was getting some real Casino vibes when Chakotay was interrogating that captive...I was really hoping Chakotay would say "Don't make me be the bad guy...", then the captive would say "Fuck YOU....", then, well you know the rest. And then the doctor would apply that "vise in a hypospray" to get answers... >:D
"Look I can keep this up all day"
I get giddy watching the crew be evil :)
This is the closest we ever got to an ISS Voyager.
3:00 badass way to control the borg :D
I just realized something about this episode if it takes place 700 years in the future it would be 3074 give or take wouldn't StarFleet be exploring the Delta Quadrant by then Q said they would be exploring it in the 29th century so Wouldn't they be able to rectify this situation?
By 'Starfleet' do you mean the Terran Empire?
But yes, in _Star Trek Online_ , by 2409 Starfleet has begun deeper explorations of the Delta Quadrant -- an endeavour further assisted by the Jenolan Dyson Sphere's reappearance (it's the same one Scotty had been recovered from _USS Jenolan_ in the _TNG_ episode 'Relics),' along with its attendant Iconian Gateway.
Everyone saying there should be more of this, but I mostly think of the fact that this episode was like parody of edgy stuff, yet nowadays Star Trek just unironically tries to be like this…
2:50 onwards: when my favourite kingdom in WorldBox is invaded by the dwarves/elves/orcs
Luckily though they tried they couldn't get rid of all the borg improvements they got over the years. Like especially the improvements Seven had saved their lives several times.
Have anyone else noticed that the computer voice at 2:55 is male? Nice adding
I think this would be the mirror starfleet if Spock hadn’t opened his mouth and the humans didn’t get beaten
Evil... TRIUMPHS!
Because good is dumb
Voyager needs a Worthy Mirror Universe season least back at home
Borg activation sequence..thats a bad day.
Are Tuvok and the Captain ..involved?😁♥️
DEFINITELY.
"Why do you always keep me waiting, Tuvok?"' Tuvok smirking "My apologies, captain"
I almost feel bad for those unwanted guests
2:59 Well I've given them one thing, the evil voyager crew did have a much more tolerable version of seven of nine.
After all these years, the Māori still haven’t gone after Star Trek for putting a moko on a non-Māori.
This Doctor must have graduated from the Josef Mengele Medical School.
This is crazy😂😂😂😂.
It's a shame I gave up on voyager way before this episode. Quite sad, seeing that I was wrong about the entirety of this show.
This show gets much better after the first couple of seasons, I swear.
They really should have done a Terran Empire Voyager episode.
We got a Terran Empire Voyager A episode instead. Close enough.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Even Evil!Harry can't get promoted.
Wonder how the Kyrians'd 'remember' Worf, if HE'D been one of Janeway's crew!
He'd probably have replaced the Kazon ensign.
Tom Paris hasn't changed at all
So is this episode set in another timeline? Because they do eventually get back to the alpha quadrant later on. In this episode, however, it seems that they crash on some planet in the Delta quadrant - end of story. Could someone explain to me how does this feed into the overall storyline?
Know its late now, but no. This episode is set around a planet that Voyager visited 700 years ago, during a war between two species, in this case they rewrote their history (not time travel but documents) to make Voyager out to be the bad guys and themselves as the heroes fighting them.
A backup of the EMH was stolen by one of the species and later recovered and activated leading to comparing the real events that happened and the events that were believed to have happened, the curator slowly comes around since part of the errors they have was believing the doctor was a cyborg not a hologram, but their laws state holograms have the same rights so he could face punishment for the 'crimes' they committed.
The story ends set even further into the future (around 3000+ad) where the doctor leaves the planet to return home having secured peace between the two species and helped fix voyagers reputation. Over all its a really good episode to watch.
Thanks, but what then explains the exhibited Voyager debris? Those are copies, too?
Voyager debris? Is that the one where it crashes on an ice planet testing out a new drive, if so that was an aborted timeline, Harry and Chakotay survived in the shuttle and managed to change history a few decades later in that one by providing the right data to Seven to save the ship, that future was then deleted.
right... I know that Chakotay & Kim episode, it was called Timeless.
The funniest borderline mirror universe episode in the sense that unlike "TNG" or "DS9" (and that's mostly cause of Sisko), with the exception of Janeway (and even here this is out of character for her), the whole gang are likable and don't believe in the mental hospital "crazy"-saying bullshit, so for them to be evil in an arrogant way just comes off as unbelievable. It makes this episode unintentionally funny. No one trying to get home engages in oppression. XD The revisionist account of Seven of Nine is the only believably arrogant character, because she used to do the things she does in this episode, except that it make the Borg in this episode more into revenge than even the Borg as they were on "Voyager" (and they were petty monsters on "Voyager" as opposed to the cyborg killing machines they were on "TNG" and "DS9").