I tried out Tru Motion on my C2. And it was surprisingly playable. I don't like input lag, but I keep switching between off and on. Zelda doesn't require fast precision in most scenarios, so the input lag becomes unnoticeable after a while when not consciously looking for it. But I do prefer it more turned off, to be honest. Tru Motion is definitely a viable option here, though.
@@brunollimaa Go to settings. Picture Motion and clarity Turn up de-jutter and de-blur to max. You can't be in game mode though. So before any of that set your picture mode to standard then adjust how you please.
You can't compare the smoothness and clarity of LG TruMotion with GMP as if it is the same. Samsungs GMP is less smooth due to less processing for lower input lag. Samsung outside Game Mode has much more headroom in terms of smoothness, still with less input lag than LG. The stutter you're seeing on Samsung wasn't always like that. S95B on 13XX and earlier had much smoother interpolation. Hopefully fixed in updates. LG G2/G3 with TruMotion: 85.6 ms Samsung S95C GMP: 19.4 Samsung S95C Interpolation outside Game Mode: 63.0 ms _input-lag source:_ _RTINGS_
Great video man. Glad you did this comparison. To see an effect on the S95C and make it more comparable to LG’s Tru Motion, take it out of game mode and use Auto Motion Plus (or whatever the motion setting is). In regards to the Switch, I bought the 4K Gamer Pro upscaler and have not been disappointed. The MClassic is also an alternative. Honestly, you shouldn’t have to buy 3rd party devices to upscale a system, but here we are 🤷🏾♂️.
@@brkbtjunkie Having played the last several generations of PlayStation and Xbox’s no you shouldn’t lol. However if you want a more modern appearance to your Switch games it’s something you should consider.
They ruined game motion plus with the newer models. My qn90b also has an almost broken game motion plus. Older tvs had a much smoother game motion plus, Idk what they did with the newer tvs
I really enjoy your content but this comparison really doesn’t make much sense: both the Samsung and LG have the motion interpolation option on non gaming image setting, Samsung here also offers that option inside gaming mode, which is only a plus comparing to LG that doesn’t offer the same. This comparison would have made sense if you compared both non gaming motion interpolations.
Yes. Game Motion plus is like dlss 3 Frame Generation with NVIDIA Reflex. Not a Perfect Technology but with Reflex the Input lag in non competitive Games are okay 👍
LG generally always had the better motion than Samsung , Samsung tvs are known for bad motion . Lg and Sony have fluid motion overall . Samsung is a stuttery tv and over saturated
Note that Game Motion Plus still works on 60fps games to boost smoothness to 120fps. I still have my 2018 QLED in the spare room and with 60fps Xbox games I will normally use Game Motion Plus.
The good thing is that in samsung you can use it in game mode without having a very high input lag, if you don't mind the input lag you can also use it outside of game mode and it will be like lg's. The game mode motion plus is a reduced version after all
Actually just activating the GMP without touching the blurr and judder the Motion Plus will still kick in but basically with almost 0 lag penalty, everything will play and feel amazing. I am mind blowing how nobody try Game MP that way and they just straight go putting up to 10 everything and increase the input lag by at least 12 Ms.🙄
I don't know how it compares so the S95 he's showing here. But my s90c is fantastic with input lag in all modes. I returned a Sony A80L because you could only use game mode to play games because it was the only mode with acceptable input lag. My Samsung s90c on the other hand has unnoticed input lag in all modes. I've never even considered input lag while using it. So I use different modes depending on the game, the color palette of the game, and the native performance of the game. Also, different game engines respond either better or worse to things like game motion plus. Some games will create way too much ghosting, and others with the same performance seem flawless in that same mode. I mainly use the motion plus for 30fps games because it gives a good feeling like it's playing at a higher framerate. My s90c really makes Tears of Kingdom feel like it's running at nearly 60fps and it's great. So to summarize, it depends on the game, the game engine, the framerate, and more importantly the frame pacing. For instance, Bloodborne, is unplayable in the motion plus modes because the bad frame pacing just won't play nice with the frame generation that game motion plus is trying to simulate. But a game like Spider-Man 2, I can play in the high fidelity 30fps mode in motion plus and the game really feels like a higher framerate game, and I get to keep all the bells and whistles of quality mode. All these frame injection/smoothing technologies are truly getting better and I can't wait to see where we are a decade from now. I enjoyed this video
You can enable motion smoothing on LG game mode hacky way, you need to connect it via HDMI to PC, open program LG color control, set bindings of settings to sole keys on keyboard. Switch to HDMI port connect to console, set game mode, and press key combo you just bound, this will override disabled greyed out settings for active mode. It works with any greyed out settings in any mode. And in game mode while motion smoothing will still increase input lag, it will be lower in general than in other modes, because processing for other things is turned off. Also to smooth out 30 fps without using motion smoothing, always set PC or Console before playing any 30 fps locked game Into 30 hz mode, almost every modern tvs and displays when fps and refresh rate doesn't match you are getting very noticeable stuttering, but when you set output refresh to match input fps it looks and feels much better and input lag seems lower. Also try to enable LLC and Freesync/Gsync/Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) on tv and your PC or console, even if some of this doesn't support it officially, it still helps to smooth things out. Many people set console or PC to 60 hz or 120 hz or even 144 hz and then play games that locked to 30 fps and it feels absolutely laggy and starters like hell, but nobody knows that system refresh rate should be same as fps and it actually feels and look smooth, even 30 fps. It seem like even modern developers, including Valve, don't know what they doing and that games in 30 fps needs matching refresh rate of 30 hz otherwise it's will be lag and stutter fest, and good evidence they don't know what they doing is the fact that Valve allows steam deck to lock fps to 30, but doesn't allow to set refresh rate lower than 40, even on HDMI connection, that's why it feels laggy no matter what. Not sure if switch does same mistake I don't have one but there probably some global setting for refresh rate that works for every game, same as on xbox. And this also proves that even Microsoft don't know what they doing, there should be per game settings on every console and in PC drivers that will force refresh rate for this game as set, because for 30 fps locked games you need 30 hz, for 60 fps games you need 60 hz for 25 or 25 fps games you need 24 or 25 hz. Some very old games (one I remember is Heart of darkness PC/ps1) actually had 15 fps and they need 14-15hz mode! Many devices nowadays don't even support this mode anymore despite its very easy to in implement. Also this problem also affects movie players if you watching movie with refresh rate not matching movie fps it's stuttering!!! Gladly some players like MPC allows to switch to marching resolution and refresh rate on fly for every video file so you don't have to create separate profiles, but why non of game consoles and PC doesn't have this feature to auto switch to refresh rate that matches fps is beyond my understanding, industry leaders seems to be loosing average IQ by 1-2 scores every year for last 20 years 😢.
@@beammeupscottsp7952 well it's shit then, on Xbox SX you can set 30hz and I think even 24hz is available and it was very useful for games from Xbox and Xbox 360.
Judder Reduction on Samsungs Game Motion Plus interpolates 30FPS to 60FPS and Blur Reduction interpolates 60FPS to 120FPS. Imho GMP is a highly underrated feature of Samsung TVs, because it is directly implemented into the game mode and designed for keeping the input lag low. Especially Blur Reduction works very well on titles with 60FPS, e.g. Cyberpunk 2077 on the PS5. Motion looks extremly crisp with it being enabled. There is not a big difference if the title would run natively on 120FPS. I am really not a Samsung Fanboy, but I need to say that your comparison is not fair. LGs True Motion should be rather compared with Samsungs motion interpolation outside of game mode.
I have NU8000, probably the very first TV with Game Motion Plus. And it's really simple - for 30 FPS games, it brings something close to 40 FPS experience. Not more. Another problem is that it requires absolutely stable framepacing. If the framepacing is uneven (which is very often the case), then every stutter is exaggerated with GM+. So what you see with Zelda is probably uneven frame rate cap which leads to stutters. This doesn't hapen with LG because the standard interpolation waits for the upcoming frame until it calculates the frame in between. However, that brings horrible lag. Samsung on the other hand predicts the next frame with motion vectors so it can keep the lag low, altough the generated frames don't look as perfect. Overall, don't expect 30 FPS to look good even with GM+. For 60 FPS games, well, that's a different story. That brings experience close to 120 FPS.
Samsung are onto something. I gave game motion plus a go and it's just not quite good enough with the stuttering to warrant it. But the input lag is still great. If they could find a happy medium where I can play single player 30fps games boosted to 60fps with stutter free motion interpolation that comes in under 50 ms input lag I think that would be great.
I agree that for slow games like this, it worth going after True motion and it feels better, but for faster-paced games even if it's a story that input lag can sometimes really bother, from my tests with C2 it was going up to 40ms on avg, on Samsung QN90B it was around 34ms but had picks and dips so it wasn't smooth.
That's because you activate it and played with Blurr and Judder,if you let those to 0 the input lag penalty it's basically inexistent but the GMplus will still kick in providing you and amazing experience.I am talking about 60fps titles since it's not working anymore with 30fps games in Samsung TVs because it got patched for unknown reasons by Samsung. I like a lot this guy videos but it should really inform itself a little bit better about the Samsung brand before giving a review.
@@ADISTOD3MUS Thanks for the info, on my both Samsung TVs it still works on 30FPS to make it like 60, but overall, for 60FPS game to 120 yeah there's less input delay which is normal, I had blur on 0 but judder reduction on 5.
Please for the love of god, do not use this mode if you play this game. Play it at a stable 30fps with next to no input lag as it was designed to be played. Or not, do whatever you want. But Jesus I tried it and it was bad.
If you take the samsung out of game mode and use the clarity settings you will get pretty much the same results as the LG albeit with the increased input lag. Also the Judder reduction is meant for 30fps games and the Blur reduction is aimed at 60 fps games hence why you didnt notice a difference when using the blur reduction slider.
The judder reduction it's not working anymore for 30fps titles, they patch that (30fps game development should be prohibited by standards these days) and actually the Game motion plus settings are for 60fps titles to give you an 120fps felling, especially for TV's with 8 bits+FRC. The best way to run the game motion plus it's just activate it and never touch the Blurr or Judder. In that way the GMplus will still kick in but with insignificant input lag penalty and will make everything looks and feel 20 times better.
Actually, the picture clarity settings in the other modes other than the game mode is almost the same as lg's trumotion. But it's worth mentioning that, after comparing these two, I found that Trumotion is a bit better since it provides less ghosting and tearing than my QN90B, but the input lag of both is unacceptable to me, that's why I chose gamemotionplus ultimately, it provides an unstable and around 40fps experience as well as a satisfactory lag, not good enough, but still better than the original annoying 25-30fps. Incidentally, when it comes to a noticeable framerate drop, the normal motionplus mode(which is the one that has higher lag) performs much worse than gamemotionplus since the fps dropped from a fake 60 to about 20, and we all know that this always happens in ToTK.😅
Very nice Video! I just got my S95C last week. I use it for watching movies. I really love the picture quality except for the stutter you mentioned at 4:30. Its very noticeable and annoying even at the highest setting of the motion picture clarity. I found out that the stutter disappears if you turned off the tv and unplug it from the power outlet. But the stutter re-appears when you turned off the tv then turn it on without unplugging the power cord. Please let me know if you have the same case. Thank you in advanced.
I haven't tried this yet but in general it's not a good idea to unplug an OLED TV. The TV will run (sometimes) a pixel refresher and when you unplug it it can't
@@GamingTech-RUclips Dont engage or activate the pixel refresh before turning the tv off. Well I also found out that the panel refresh 1 hr process helps to fix the stutter issue. But the issue always re-appears when turning the tv back on without unplugging the power cord. I hope that samsung will fix this issue with a software update.
If you activate picture clarity settings in Standard TV modes don't go with the judder up to 10 never,max 4, everything will run amazing without stutters or artifacts and actually without soap opera effect. Always activate noise reduction since this will get you rid of all banding and stutter in your TV especially when you watch different channels or RUclips compressed videos.I am talking from my experience.
@@ADISTOD3MUS I set motion picture clarity to Custom, Judder: 3 and Blur: 10. I watch movie files thru USB, ATV PLUS and vids on youtube. I tried different settings to get rid of the flickering issues but no luck. Anyway I reported this annoying issue and samsung Philippines will replace my S95C anytime soon..
So does the S90C's MotionPlus setting reduce motion blur by 50% the way a real 120fps would, when using MotionPlus on a 60fps game? I'm guessing it also adds another fake 60fps on top of 60 as well, but supposedly it creates motion artifacts and latency jumps from 10ms to 20ms.
turn off game mode and set judder to 10, s95c looks just like lg and with almost no input lag but it does have very noticable stutter and screen tearing at times
I've had the Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED Monitor for months now and ncer used this feature till now. Wow! It makes a difference. I wished I knew earlier. I would've love playing TOTK with it on.
I'd like to see part 2 with a game running on the PC with perfect frametime locking the FPS with RTSS. I believe the interpolation is having issues because the performance isn't perfect. Samsung should be a clear winner if the FPS is rock solid.
Game motion plus doesn't work on 30 fps games anymore in Samsung TVs and actually it does an absolutely amazing job for the 60 fps games but only if you just activate it and let the Blurr reduction and Judder to 0, otherwise if you raise up only for 1 level the Judder or the Motion blur the input lag goes up significantly. In the other hand letting everything to 0 and just activate it the Motion Plus still kicks in and make your games look and run 20 times better but actually the input lag will be so insignificant in difference since your game bar will only go down from Fastest to Faster and not all the way down to Fast. For me it actually increase the sensación of 120fps and actually the game looks way better and color vibrant with it on with basically no input lag difference in my games whatsoever, actually I have the felling they run smoother than without the game motion plus ON.( Remember,just activate it and never touch Blur reduction or Judder).
Do you have a game example for this? I have found playing Death Stranding using 'Motion Blur' 8-10 is doing a greate job of keeping things in focus and details sharp. Not noticing much lag here at all yet.
I realize now it probably is best to hold onto a standard 60hz monitor/tv to play 30 FPS games on because of the Input lag being so bad when using the motion plus on a 120hz TV.
Is there a settings tweak that you could do to mitigate the S95C stuttering? I would occasionally use this feature on the Q8FN, it it did stutter, but idr if it was continually happening.
I’m using a 77CX and honestly I usually agree fully, but I can’t stand the artifacting that TruMotion creates, personally I notice a bunch of it constantly going on and it looks so much worse than just putting it back to game mode with no TruMotion. And that’s even with the frame rate lowering, at least no input lag helps make it feel less like 30 🤷🏽♂️
The S95c is too bright, I don't like that. But that's not the issue. Had a Samsung LCD QN95NA and wasn't happy at all. It was a nightmare. Now I have the G2 77 and am very happy with it.
The best i got on my Sony KDL55w805c years ago with Motionflow...i was able to play ps4 30fps games in absolutely smooth gameplay like 60 fps without any big input lag. That was great. My LG CX cant give me that feeling back. Yes its smooth and looks good but way too much input lag for me.
That doesn't exist anymore and the today Game Motion Plus in Samsung TVs it's actually meant for 60fps titles to fell and play like it will be in 120fps , especially for TV'S that don't have 120hz native panels only 100 Hz at 8bits +FRC. If you have a native 120hz panel and true 2.1 HDMI ports it will be even better. Samsung patched the Game motion plus for 30 Fps titles for unknown reasons and now if you go in game mode and activate the game motion plus playing a 30 fps game will not do anything. Outside game mode it's not Game motion plus anymore and it's actually Picture clarity settings which gives you the same effect the LG's TVs gives you with the their true motion and a terrible lag.
Dude, you're comparing apples and oranges. Samsung is the only brand that has a motion interpolation feature for game mode, it smooths the movement as much as possible without having a noticeable input lag, if you turn off the game mode and enable judder reduction to max, you'll get pretty much the same result as in the LG, naturally, this will considerably increase input lag too.
For anyone looking for actual acceptable experience, just play it on pc. With a latest cpu the and decent gpu the game runs at 8k 80-100fps. Its not even a competition. Playing this game on switch is a disservice
If I click on Trumotion I can only select off or User Selection (then only Oled Motion). How can I fix this? I already set my ps5 to hdmi output (not pc) and turned ALLM off.
I’ve just started playing TOTK with my just bought switch oled on my Samsung NeoQled S95a tv and I’ve set it in game mode with game motion plus.. what I don’t really like about game mode is that it “hurts my eyes” due to the too strong colors especially in day scenes in Zelda.. film mode would be better as image quality but there wouldn’t be game motion plus I think.. is there a way to tweak switch for better colors in game mode? With my ps5 I have no issues playing in game mode.
TruMotion on LG B2 looks great but the input lag is unacceptable, I don't know if it's much better on more expensive models. I propably would choose the Game Motion Plus, if I had that option.
LG to balance latency and judder reduction I put at a 2 3 or 4 and can have a good experience. 7-10 for story titles is useable still.. old school final fantasy i I interpolate to 120.
I've been wanting to try out true motion on my C1 because 30fps games are unplayable on this TV, but I wasn't sure what settings to use so I haven't tried it.
If I was fine with Zelda at 30fps on the Switch OLED, can I get away with no motion settings on a larger screen, or will it bother me? Hard to tell without testing it myself! Thank you for this video.
@@SrUnr3al If I was fine with 30fps on a plasma, will I be okay here? It has image doubling or whatever they want to call it because you could really see each individual frame. I preferred it to the smearing that would happen on LCD at the time.
I have the G2 and G3 now at home, and the G3 is noticeable better than the G2, I played FFXVI with these TVs and is pretty good, unfortunately I'll be returning the G3 due to a banding issue, and decided to try with the S90C, was super cheap
@@dukevonpixel I like them both, if it wouldn't be due to the uniformity issue with the G3, I would still have it. But that gave me the opportunity to try a Samsung, and I'm more than happy with the S90C, I used to change my TV every year, but this one is hard to justify the change, is perfect for gaming which is what I mainly do in this TV.
You need to play on PC with a good gpu at 120hz/120fps to see the real good results of the Trumotion (High) without flickering (Only C1/G1 models). The motion clarity is like playing at 312fps on a regular oled, with zero artifacts and only a (relatively) great impact on the scene brightness which can be compensated by raising the black balance so as not to lose details in shadows.
What is the input lag like? I have a 2018 Q8FN and outside game mode, the motion interpolation of 60hz feels just like my 144hz gaming monitor, and with Dualsense controller (2ms) and scannline sync (vsync off but tearing occurs off screen) i have nice clarity and input lag. Will the C1 be worse input lag wise?
@erkimann I play with bfi turned on and brightness isnt a problem with newer oleds, I don't like images too bright though as I tend to game for long period in a dark room so easier on my eyes
Its very dependent on the game you're playing too, try playing something like Judgement, where you're in a city full of bright signs with a lot of text and motion processing on, the text artifacts like crazy while looking around.
I actually own both an LG C2 and a Samsung QN900a and on both TVs, 30 FPS games just don't feel that great to play on these TVs without increasing the FPS to 60 FPS because the TVs give off so much more stuttering than before on a 60hz TV. I did own a 4k 60 FPS tv before this and I didn't think it was going to be a problem going up to a 120 hz TV not realizing the stuttering look of the gameplay was going to be a bigger problem here and it doesn't feel that great to play without motion plus enabled.
slower tvs will have a "natural blur" that will smooth the judder out, i remember when i got my first 144hz monitor and watching 24 fps movies were horrible.
Hallo GamingTech Du könntest mal den Movie Mode mit 10 Blur Reduction und 4.5 Judder Reduction probiern,klappt sehr gut mit 30 und 60 fps games.Danke für deine tollen Videos!
A little off topic, but i could do with a litle input please I am in the market for a 77 oled, heres the oricing. S90c £2150 Lg c2 £2250 Lg g2 £2750 S95c £2975. I will be using the tv for windows 10 auto hdr gaming, movie nights to replace my projector, anime tv/movies and some sports and typical tv broadcasts. I believe the s90c 77 uses the 2nd gen qdoled panels, is there any info on gen 2 qd oled? Which tv should i be getting? Thanks
I have the LG C2 77" and while playing Zelda TOTK I noticed the screen occassionally turns black for a few seconds and then it turns to 60fps! How do I manually adjust this as it's doing this randomly now!
This keeps happening to me on c1 mid game. Game optimizer on, 4k @120hz on pc. I'm using a 6900xt gpu and a 2.1 hdmi optical cable. I've eliminated every possible problem. I have to keep tabbing out then back in for it to go back to 120hz. Can't find any related problems online anywhere
Man, I think it's great you got an S95C and all but comparing it to the G2 like this is kinda pointless. they're not actually competing with each other, the G2 is an older model it doesn't have the latest LG processing, it isn't as bright as the G3 and we already know these things, and the G2 is discounted now, if someone is looking at the s95c their other option would be the g3 not the g2. I do look forward to recommended HDR settings for the s95c tho, and since it's brightness is actually close to the G3, whoever has a G3 can easily make one or two adjustments and have it reflect to their G3, of course would be better if you had the two of them, in which case comparing the two would be great, but I understand there's limits to what one can spend.
Well he has a G2.. he's been using G2 for almost a year now? How's he supposed to compare to a G3 If he doesn't have one? When I bought my s95b I compared it to my c1 because it's the last display I gamed on so ofcourse in going to compare
think so too. comparing g3 with s95c would make much more sense. maybe he will get a partnership with one of the tv producers in the future like other yters and can test much more tvs. love your videos, please never stop! :)
Not a great comparison, you shouldn’t compare game motion plus with tru motion. Also for 30 FPS games you need to turn on de judder and de blur to 10, for 60 FPS games de blur at 10 only.
Ich hab heute meinen S95C endlich geliefert bekommen, komme vom LG CX. Bei mir ist leider Game Motion Plus beim S95C ausgegraut, ich kann es nicht aktivieren. Eine Idee woran es liegen könnte? Ich zocke ausschließlich am PC.
Yes, (your PS5 is HDR) because for LG G2, the Standard HDR Mode settings are different from the Standard (SDR) mode : for the Standard (SDR) Mode, you have access to the User mode settings for it, so you can enable the access to the different settings (including Trumotion). But for the Standard HDR Mode, I can't find how to have access to the User Mode, and so I don't have access to the Settings (for enabling TruMotion for instance). Any idea how to do that ?
That option is awful on all TVs, it's a feature named black frame interpolation/insertion and, while it does smooth movement a bit more, it lowers the TVs brightness too much while also making it look like the light is always flashing intermittently (and technically, it is, hence the name) Couldn't watch with this option enabled for more than 5 mins before getting headaches
I didn't consider this. I typically avoid the smoothing features, but I might try it out on my G2 because Zelda can definitely be rough on the eyes. Even if smoothing does introduce artifacts, it's not like Zelda has clean razor sharp high-res graphics anyway.
Are you using any Motion Settings on your TV?
I certainly do. I play my Switch with HDR Effect on the CX and the motion setting at Smooth for BOTW and TOTK.
I tried out Tru Motion on my C2. And it was surprisingly playable.
I don't like input lag, but I keep switching between off and on.
Zelda doesn't require fast precision in most scenarios, so the input lag becomes unnoticeable after a while when not consciously looking for it.
But I do prefer it more turned off, to be honest. Tru Motion is definitely a viable option here, though.
Where is the LG config for true motion? Where do i turn on these settings?
@@brunollimaa Go to settings.
Picture
Motion and clarity
Turn up de-jutter and de-blur to max.
You can't be in game mode though. So before any of that set your picture mode to standard then adjust how you please.
@@sawdust8691 in a LG C1 there are just the oled motion pro options :/ and i have to turn it off VRR and ALLM to make this settings works :(
You can't compare the smoothness and clarity of LG TruMotion with GMP as if it is the same. Samsungs GMP is less smooth due to less processing for lower input lag. Samsung outside Game Mode has much more headroom in terms of smoothness, still with less input lag than LG.
The stutter you're seeing on Samsung wasn't always like that. S95B on 13XX and earlier had much smoother interpolation. Hopefully fixed in updates.
LG G2/G3 with TruMotion: 85.6 ms
Samsung S95C GMP: 19.4
Samsung S95C Interpolation outside Game Mode: 63.0 ms
_input-lag source:_
_RTINGS_
LG C2 is probably the same, the picture looks amazing, its a game changer for Switch games, but the input lag is just unplayable in an action game.
Great video man. Glad you did this comparison. To see an effect on the S95C and make it more comparable to LG’s Tru Motion, take it out of game mode and use Auto Motion Plus (or whatever the motion setting is).
In regards to the Switch, I bought the 4K Gamer Pro upscaler and have not been disappointed. The MClassic is also an alternative.
Honestly, you shouldn’t have to buy 3rd party devices to upscale a system, but here we are 🤷🏾♂️.
Upscalers are for a niche market. I don’t think anyone is required to buy one unless they want to.
@@brkbtjunkie Having played the last several generations of PlayStation and Xbox’s no you shouldn’t lol. However if you want a more modern appearance to your Switch games it’s something you should consider.
This is why I really like this channel. Real deepdives in gaming features on the tvs. 👍
They ruined game motion plus with the newer models. My qn90b also has an almost broken game motion plus. Older tvs had a much smoother game motion plus, Idk what they did with the newer tvs
I really enjoy your content but this comparison really doesn’t make much sense: both the Samsung and LG have the motion interpolation option on non gaming image setting, Samsung here also offers that option inside gaming mode, which is only a plus comparing to LG that doesn’t offer the same. This comparison would have made sense if you compared both non gaming motion interpolations.
Exactly 💯 agree 👍.
Or even measure lag difference
Yes. Game Motion plus is like dlss 3 Frame Generation with NVIDIA Reflex. Not a Perfect Technology but with Reflex the Input lag in non competitive Games are okay 👍
LG generally always had the better motion than Samsung , Samsung tvs are known for bad motion . Lg and Sony have fluid motion overall . Samsung is a stuttery tv and over saturated
Wait you can do that? Turn off gaming mode for a game?
Note that Game Motion Plus still works on 60fps games to boost smoothness to 120fps.
I still have my 2018 QLED in the spare room and with 60fps Xbox games I will normally use Game Motion Plus.
The good thing is that in samsung you can use it in game mode without having a very high input lag, if you don't mind the input lag you can also use it outside of game mode and it will be like lg's. The game mode motion plus is a reduced version after all
Actually just activating the GMP without touching the blurr and judder the Motion Plus will still kick in but basically with almost 0 lag penalty, everything will play and feel amazing. I am mind blowing how nobody try Game MP that way and they just straight go putting up to 10 everything and increase the input lag by at least 12 Ms.🙄
I don't know how it compares so the S95 he's showing here. But my s90c is fantastic with input lag in all modes. I returned a Sony A80L because you could only use game mode to play games because it was the only mode with acceptable input lag. My Samsung s90c on the other hand has unnoticed input lag in all modes. I've never even considered input lag while using it. So I use different modes depending on the game, the color palette of the game, and the native performance of the game. Also, different game engines respond either better or worse to things like game motion plus. Some games will create way too much ghosting, and others with the same performance seem flawless in that same mode. I mainly use the motion plus for 30fps games because it gives a good feeling like it's playing at a higher framerate. My s90c really makes Tears of Kingdom feel like it's running at nearly 60fps and it's great. So to summarize, it depends on the game, the game engine, the framerate, and more importantly the frame pacing. For instance, Bloodborne, is unplayable in the motion plus modes because the bad frame pacing just won't play nice with the frame generation that game motion plus is trying to simulate. But a game like Spider-Man 2, I can play in the high fidelity 30fps mode in motion plus and the game really feels like a higher framerate game, and I get to keep all the bells and whistles of quality mode. All these frame injection/smoothing technologies are truly getting better and I can't wait to see where we are a decade from now. I enjoyed this video
You can enable motion smoothing on LG game mode hacky way, you need to connect it via HDMI to PC, open program LG color control, set bindings of settings to sole keys on keyboard. Switch to HDMI port connect to console, set game mode, and press key combo you just bound, this will override disabled greyed out settings for active mode. It works with any greyed out settings in any mode. And in game mode while motion smoothing will still increase input lag, it will be lower in general than in other modes, because processing for other things is turned off. Also to smooth out 30 fps without using motion smoothing, always set PC or Console before playing any 30 fps locked game Into 30 hz mode, almost every modern tvs and displays when fps and refresh rate doesn't match you are getting very noticeable stuttering, but when you set output refresh to match input fps it looks and feels much better and input lag seems lower. Also try to enable LLC and Freesync/Gsync/Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) on tv and your PC or console, even if some of this doesn't support it officially, it still helps to smooth things out. Many people set console or PC to 60 hz or 120 hz or even 144 hz and then play games that locked to 30 fps and it feels absolutely laggy and starters like hell, but nobody knows that system refresh rate should be same as fps and it actually feels and look smooth, even 30 fps. It seem like even modern developers, including Valve, don't know what they doing and that games in 30 fps needs matching refresh rate of 30 hz otherwise it's will be lag and stutter fest, and good evidence they don't know what they doing is the fact that Valve allows steam deck to lock fps to 30, but doesn't allow to set refresh rate lower than 40, even on HDMI connection, that's why it feels laggy no matter what. Not sure if switch does same mistake I don't have one but there probably some global setting for refresh rate that works for every game, same as on xbox. And this also proves that even Microsoft don't know what they doing, there should be per game settings on every console and in PC drivers that will force refresh rate for this game as set, because for 30 fps locked games you need 30 hz, for 60 fps games you need 60 hz for 25 or 25 fps games you need 24 or 25 hz. Some very old games (one I remember is Heart of darkness PC/ps1) actually had 15 fps and they need 14-15hz mode! Many devices nowadays don't even support this mode anymore despite its very easy to in implement. Also this problem also affects movie players if you watching movie with refresh rate not matching movie fps it's stuttering!!! Gladly some players like MPC allows to switch to marching resolution and refresh rate on fly for every video file so you don't have to create separate profiles, but why non of game consoles and PC doesn't have this feature to auto switch to refresh rate that matches fps is beyond my understanding, industry leaders seems to be loosing average IQ by 1-2 scores every year for last 20 years 😢.
Jesus. You killed the paragraphs
@@_Quint_ RUclips did. They was here when I typed from phone.
@@YOBAMUSTDIE on ps5, you can only pick 60 or 120 hz bud.
@@beammeupscottsp7952 well it's shit then, on Xbox SX you can set 30hz and I think even 24hz is available and it was very useful for games from Xbox and Xbox 360.
@@YOBAMUSTDIE 30 fps is shit, as soon as we stop accepting that then we can finally move forward
Judder Reduction on Samsungs Game Motion Plus interpolates 30FPS to 60FPS and Blur Reduction interpolates 60FPS to 120FPS.
Imho GMP is a highly underrated feature of Samsung TVs, because it is directly implemented into the game mode and designed for keeping the input lag low. Especially Blur Reduction works very well on titles with 60FPS, e.g. Cyberpunk 2077 on the PS5. Motion looks extremly crisp with it being enabled. There is not a big difference if the title would run natively on 120FPS.
I am really not a Samsung Fanboy, but I need to say that your comparison is not fair. LGs True Motion should be rather compared with Samsungs motion interpolation outside of game mode.
Remember, nvidia paywalled 40 series interpolation behind (hardware cant do it) and these tvs do it so much better
I have NU8000, probably the very first TV with Game Motion Plus. And it's really simple - for 30 FPS games, it brings something close to 40 FPS experience. Not more. Another problem is that it requires absolutely stable framepacing. If the framepacing is uneven (which is very often the case), then every stutter is exaggerated with GM+. So what you see with Zelda is probably uneven frame rate cap which leads to stutters. This doesn't hapen with LG because the standard interpolation waits for the upcoming frame until it calculates the frame in between. However, that brings horrible lag. Samsung on the other hand predicts the next frame with motion vectors so it can keep the lag low, altough the generated frames don't look as perfect.
Overall, don't expect 30 FPS to look good even with GM+. For 60 FPS games, well, that's a different story. That brings experience close to 120 FPS.
Native DLSS3 on Samsung TV
Hi, can you do a comparison between game motion plus and outside game mode interpolation on samsung?
Samsung are onto something. I gave game motion plus a go and it's just not quite good enough with the stuttering to warrant it. But the input lag is still great. If they could find a happy medium where I can play single player 30fps games boosted to 60fps with stutter free motion interpolation that comes in under 50 ms input lag I think that would be great.
Have you activated EOTF with HLG HDR on your LG CX with the true motion, or is it on Auto? Thank you very much for the great videos!
If you turn of the game mode for Sumsung, it actually becomes much better, much more like 60fps... I just noticed that on my TV😂
How do you turn it off?
I agree that for slow games like this, it worth going after True motion and it feels better, but for faster-paced games even if it's a story that input lag can sometimes really bother, from my tests with C2 it was going up to 40ms on avg, on Samsung QN90B it was around 34ms but had picks and dips so it wasn't smooth.
That's because you activate it and played with Blurr and Judder,if you let those to 0 the input lag penalty it's basically inexistent but the GMplus will still kick in providing you and amazing experience.I am talking about 60fps titles since it's not working anymore with 30fps games in Samsung TVs because it got patched for unknown reasons by Samsung. I like a lot this guy videos but it should really inform itself a little bit better about the Samsung brand before giving a review.
@@ADISTOD3MUS Thanks for the info, on my both Samsung TVs it still works on 30FPS to make it like 60, but overall, for 60FPS game to 120 yeah there's less input delay which is normal, I had blur on 0 but judder reduction on 5.
They better make Zelda TOTK at 60fps in the "switch 2" because if not the console will be really underpowered from the get go!
Please for the love of god, do not use this mode if you play this game. Play it at a stable 30fps with next to no input lag as it was designed to be played.
Or not, do whatever you want. But Jesus I tried it and it was bad.
If you take the samsung out of game mode and use the clarity settings you will get pretty much the same results as the LG albeit with the increased input lag. Also the Judder reduction is meant for 30fps games and the Blur reduction is aimed at 60 fps games hence why you didnt notice a difference when using the blur reduction slider.
Way to much lag outside of game mode.
The judder reduction it's not working anymore for 30fps titles, they patch that (30fps game development should be prohibited by standards these days) and actually the Game motion plus settings are for 60fps titles to give you an 120fps felling, especially for TV's with 8 bits+FRC. The best way to run the game motion plus it's just activate it and never touch the Blurr or Judder. In that way the GMplus will still kick in but with insignificant input lag penalty and will make everything looks and feel 20 times better.
@@phillydavison that’s not true. It will be fine because I got the same tv
Actually, the picture clarity settings in the other modes other than the game mode is almost the same as lg's trumotion. But it's worth mentioning that, after comparing these two, I found that Trumotion is a bit better since it provides less ghosting and tearing than my QN90B, but the input lag of both is unacceptable to me, that's why I chose gamemotionplus ultimately, it provides an unstable and around 40fps experience as well as a satisfactory lag, not good enough, but still better than the original annoying 25-30fps.
Incidentally, when it comes to a noticeable framerate drop, the normal motionplus mode(which is the one that has higher lag) performs much worse than gamemotionplus since the fps dropped from a fake 60 to about 20, and we all know that this always happens in ToTK.😅
for me the much higher input lag is more unacceptable than a stable 30fps
Not on an oled tv. This the sad truth
Game motion plus is the best of both worlds really
You’re comparing apples to oranges without acknowledging that only Samsung has apples and oranges.
What?
versuch mal aus dem Spielemodus raus zu gehen ( S95c) und der GameMotionPlus wird viel effektiver arbeiten, jedoch mit mehr lag.
Very nice Video! I just got my S95C last week. I use it for watching movies. I really love the picture quality except for the stutter you mentioned at 4:30. Its very noticeable and annoying even at the highest setting of the motion picture clarity. I found out that the stutter disappears if you turned off the tv and unplug it from the power outlet. But the stutter re-appears when you turned off the tv then turn it on without unplugging the power cord. Please let me know if you have the same case. Thank you in advanced.
I haven't tried this yet but in general it's not a good idea to unplug an OLED TV. The TV will run (sometimes) a pixel refresher and when you unplug it it can't
@@GamingTech-RUclips Dont engage or activate the pixel refresh before turning the tv off. Well I also found out that the panel refresh 1 hr process helps to fix the stutter issue. But the issue always re-appears when turning the tv back on without unplugging the power cord. I hope that samsung will fix this issue with a software update.
@@jazzyTSexy thanks for letting me know!
If you activate picture clarity settings in Standard TV modes don't go with the judder up to 10 never,max 4, everything will run amazing without stutters or artifacts and actually without soap opera effect. Always activate noise reduction since this will get you rid of all banding and stutter in your TV especially when you watch different channels or RUclips compressed videos.I am talking from my experience.
@@ADISTOD3MUS I set motion picture clarity to Custom, Judder: 3 and Blur: 10. I watch movie files thru USB, ATV PLUS and vids on youtube. I tried different settings to get rid of the flickering issues but no luck. Anyway I reported this annoying issue and samsung Philippines will replace my S95C anytime soon..
You still have no g3 ? What a let down. I thought u was the LG boy.
So does the S90C's MotionPlus setting reduce motion blur by 50% the way a real 120fps would, when using MotionPlus on a 60fps game? I'm guessing it also adds another fake 60fps on top of 60 as well, but supposedly it creates motion artifacts and latency jumps from 10ms to 20ms.
Can you do this for PS5 final fantasy XVI?
turn off game mode and set judder to 10, s95c looks just like lg and with almost no input lag but it does have very noticable stutter and screen tearing at times
Maybe the stuttering is because the game drops below 30 fps.
I've had the Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED Monitor for months now and ncer used this feature till now. Wow! It makes a difference. I wished I knew earlier. I would've love playing TOTK with it on.
I'd like to see part 2 with a game running on the PC with perfect frametime locking the FPS with RTSS. I believe the interpolation is having issues because the performance isn't perfect. Samsung should be a clear winner if the FPS is rock solid.
The emulator isnt that good yet.
Game motion plus doesn't work on 30 fps games anymore in Samsung TVs and actually it does an absolutely amazing job for the 60 fps games but only if you just activate it and let the Blurr reduction and Judder to 0, otherwise if you raise up only for 1 level the Judder or the Motion blur the input lag goes up significantly. In the other hand letting everything to 0 and just activate it the Motion Plus still kicks in and make your games look and run 20 times better but actually the input lag will be so insignificant in difference since your game bar will only go down from Fastest to Faster and not all the way down to Fast. For me it actually increase the sensación of 120fps and actually the game looks way better and color vibrant with it on with basically no input lag difference in my games whatsoever, actually I have the felling they run smoother than without the game motion plus ON.( Remember,just activate it and never touch Blur reduction or Judder).
Do you have a game example for this? I have found playing Death Stranding using 'Motion Blur' 8-10 is doing a greate job of keeping things in focus and details sharp. Not noticing much lag here at all yet.
I realize now it probably is best to hold onto a standard 60hz monitor/tv to play 30 FPS games on because of the Input lag being so bad when using the motion plus on a 120hz TV.
Game motion plus is the only one I like
Is there a settings tweak that you could do to mitigate the S95C stuttering? I would occasionally use this feature on the Q8FN, it it did stutter, but idr if it was continually happening.
I’m using a 77CX and honestly I usually agree fully, but I can’t stand the artifacting that TruMotion creates, personally I notice a bunch of it constantly going on and it looks so much worse than just putting it back to game mode with no TruMotion. And that’s even with the frame rate lowering, at least no input lag helps make it feel less like 30 🤷🏽♂️
The S95c is too bright, I don't like that. But that's not the issue. Had a Samsung LCD QN95NA and wasn't happy at all. It was a nightmare. Now I have the G2 77 and am very happy with it.
That's why there's a remote control so you can adjust it.
What about the C3?
The G2 is 89.5 ms Outside Game Mode
The C3 is 43 ms Outside Game Mode (RTINGS).
The best i got on my Sony KDL55w805c years ago with Motionflow...i was able to play ps4 30fps games in absolutely smooth gameplay like 60 fps without any big input lag. That was great. My LG CX cant give me that feeling back. Yes its smooth and looks good but way too much input lag for me.
That doesn't exist anymore and the today Game Motion Plus in Samsung TVs it's actually meant for 60fps titles to fell and play like it will be in 120fps , especially for TV'S that don't have 120hz native panels only 100 Hz at 8bits +FRC. If you have a native 120hz panel and true 2.1 HDMI ports it will be even better. Samsung patched the Game motion plus for 30 Fps titles for unknown reasons and now if you go in game mode and activate the game motion plus playing a 30 fps game will not do anything. Outside game mode it's not Game motion plus anymore and it's actually Picture clarity settings which gives you the same effect the LG's TVs gives you with the their true motion and a terrible lag.
Watch the distortion on the "hearts" at the top on the Samsung. UI gets distorted.
Dude, you're comparing apples and oranges. Samsung is the only brand that has a motion interpolation feature for game mode, it smooths the movement as much as possible without having a noticeable input lag, if you turn off the game mode and enable judder reduction to max, you'll get pretty much the same result as in the LG, naturally, this will considerably increase input lag too.
For anyone looking for actual acceptable experience, just play it on pc. With a latest cpu the and decent gpu the game runs at 8k 80-100fps. Its not even a competition. Playing this game on switch is a disservice
I thought it’s a switch exclusive ?
Ok cuck
Only for the price of a few thousand can you play TOTK at 4k and a fps that is all over the place because it's not emulating properly yet.
If I click on Trumotion I can only select off or User Selection (then only Oled Motion). How can I fix this? I already set my ps5 to hdmi output (not pc) and turned ALLM off.
Hallo. Ich habe einen LGCX55 und eine XSX. Wenn ich Cyberpunk spiele habe ich bei weit entfernten Texturen ein flimmern. Kann ich da was machen?
I’m absolutely loving Zelda with dejudder at 10 and deblur at 0 on my C2. Seems more responsive than with both at 10.
I’ve just started playing TOTK with my just bought switch oled on my Samsung NeoQled S95a tv and I’ve set it in game mode with game motion plus.. what I don’t really like about game mode is that it “hurts my eyes” due to the too strong colors especially in day scenes in Zelda.. film mode would be better as image quality but there wouldn’t be game motion plus I think.. is there a way to tweak switch for better colors in game mode? With my ps5 I have no issues playing in game mode.
How do you enable true motion? Mines grayed out unless i turn hdmi deep colour off.
TruMotion on LG B2 looks great but the input lag is unacceptable, I don't know if it's much better on more expensive models. I propably would choose the Game Motion Plus, if I had that option.
something is wrong with that S95C because on my Samsung QN90B I get same smoothness as it is appreciated here with LG Trumotion
LG to balance latency and judder reduction I put at a 2 3 or 4 and can have a good experience.
7-10 for story titles is useable still.. old school final fantasy i I interpolate to 120.
I've been wanting to try out true motion on my C1 because 30fps games are unplayable on this TV, but I wasn't sure what settings to use so I haven't tried it.
If I was fine with Zelda at 30fps on the Switch OLED, can I get away with no motion settings on a larger screen, or will it bother me? Hard to tell without testing it myself! Thank you for this video.
The judder is WAY more noticeable on a bigger screen.
@@SrUnr3al If I was fine with 30fps on a plasma, will I be okay here? It has image doubling or whatever they want to call it because you could really see each individual frame. I preferred it to the smearing that would happen on LCD at the time.
Quick question about the S95C. Is it the 2023 replacement of the S95B or it is something else?
It's an improved version of the S95B
Problem with stattering on samsung, because of you use fastest input setting, need use fast setting on input
I have the G2 and G3 now at home, and the G3 is noticeable better than the G2, I played FFXVI with these TVs and is pretty good, unfortunately I'll be returning the G3 due to a banding issue, and decided to try with the S90C, was super cheap
What do you think. G3 or S90c ?
@@dukevonpixel I like them both, if it wouldn't be due to the uniformity issue with the G3, I would still have it. But that gave me the opportunity to try a Samsung, and I'm more than happy with the S90C, I used to change my TV every year, but this one is hard to justify the change, is perfect for gaming which is what I mainly do in this TV.
@vegasan9 Hard to justify that extra 1500$ for a G3, in my case anyways. Love my CX, bit may go Samsung due too $$$
Try turning off game mode. Then you have a great experience. I had the same problem with that. But when you turn off game mode it will be better
You need to play on PC with a good gpu at 120hz/120fps to see the real good results of the Trumotion (High) without flickering (Only C1/G1 models). The motion clarity is like playing at 312fps on a regular oled, with zero artifacts and only a (relatively) great impact on the scene brightness which can be compensated by raising the black balance so as not to lose details in shadows.
What is the input lag like?
I have a 2018 Q8FN and outside game mode, the motion interpolation of 60hz feels just like my 144hz gaming monitor, and with Dualsense controller (2ms) and scannline sync (vsync off but tearing occurs off screen) i have nice clarity and input lag.
Will the C1 be worse input lag wise?
Why no just use BFI? True Motion input lag is unplayable
Because it dims the screen a lot. But maybe it’s better on the newer tvs.
@erkimann I play with bfi turned on and brightness isnt a problem with newer oleds, I don't like images too bright though as I tend to game for long period in a dark room so easier on my eyes
@@Capricorn_IV yeah I do the same and agree, but I play in a very dark room so idk if my opinion is valid for everyone’s setup
Its very dependent on the game you're playing too, try playing something like Judgement, where you're in a city full of bright signs with a lot of text and motion processing on, the text artifacts like crazy while looking around.
Why not try Sony A95K or A95L?
I did on PS4 Pro. With PS5 there's no need to use it anymore.
I actually own both an LG C2 and a Samsung QN900a and on both TVs, 30 FPS games just don't feel that great to play on these TVs without increasing the FPS to 60 FPS because the TVs give off so much more stuttering than before on a 60hz TV. I did own a 4k 60 FPS tv before this and I didn't think it was going to be a problem going up to a 120 hz TV not realizing the stuttering look of the gameplay was going to be a bigger problem here and it doesn't feel that great to play without motion plus enabled.
slower tvs will have a "natural blur" that will smooth the judder out, i remember when i got my first 144hz monitor and watching 24 fps movies were horrible.
@@SrUnr3al I think OLED tvs like the ones I mentioned probably have that issue on high refresh rate TVs.
Is it good on the QN95C?
From 1 to 100 how big is the difference in terms of picture quality from the G2 to the S95c??
There is no comparison, S95C it's a masterpiece (especially for gaming) even the G2 it's a beast on his own too .
@@ADISTOD3MUSs95c couldn’t even use full hdmi 2.1 atm
Hallo GamingTech Du könntest mal den Movie Mode mit 10 Blur Reduction und 4.5 Judder Reduction probiern,klappt sehr gut mit 30 und 60 fps games.Danke für deine tollen Videos!
5 judder ist fast 60 fps für ein 30fps Game und würde ich auch lieber Nutzen. Die andere Einstellung hat keinen Einfluss auf 30fps
A little off topic, but i could do with a litle input please
I am in the market for a 77 oled, heres the oricing.
S90c £2150
Lg c2 £2250
Lg g2 £2750
S95c £2975.
I will be using the tv for windows 10 auto hdr gaming, movie nights to replace my projector, anime tv/movies and some sports and typical tv broadcasts.
I believe the s90c 77 uses the 2nd gen qdoled panels, is there any info on gen 2 qd oled?
Which tv should i be getting?
Thanks
Which one did you end up getting
@@flizzy4645 s90c 77
I have the LG C2 77" and while playing Zelda TOTK I noticed the screen occassionally turns black for a few seconds and then it turns to 60fps! How do I manually adjust this as it's doing this randomly now!
This keeps happening to me on c1 mid game. Game optimizer on, 4k @120hz on pc. I'm using a 6900xt gpu and a 2.1 hdmi optical cable. I've eliminated every possible problem. I have to keep tabbing out then back in for it to go back to 120hz. Can't find any related problems online anywhere
I do have refresh rate locked to 117hz .
Man, I think it's great you got an S95C and all but comparing it to the G2 like this is kinda pointless. they're not actually competing with each other, the G2 is an older model it doesn't have the latest LG processing, it isn't as bright as the G3 and we already know these things, and the G2 is discounted now, if someone is looking at the s95c their other option would be the g3 not the g2. I do look forward to recommended HDR settings for the s95c tho, and since it's brightness is actually close to the G3, whoever has a G3 can easily make one or two adjustments and have it reflect to their G3, of course would be better if you had the two of them, in which case comparing the two would be great, but I understand there's limits to what one can spend.
Well he has a G2.. he's been using G2 for almost a year now? How's he supposed to compare to a G3 If he doesn't have one? When I bought my s95b I compared it to my c1 because it's the last display I gamed on so ofcourse in going to compare
That's like saying comparing ps4 and ps5 is pointless.. It's still useful to do diverse comparison..
think so too. comparing g3 with s95c would make much more sense. maybe he will get a partnership with one of the tv producers in the future like other yters and can test much more tvs. love your videos, please never stop! :)
I have LG OLED CX
I thinking to change it
Not a great comparison, you shouldn’t compare game motion plus with tru motion. Also for 30 FPS games you need to turn on de judder and de blur to 10, for 60 FPS games de blur at 10 only.
I like your german accent
Ich hab heute meinen S95C endlich geliefert bekommen, komme vom LG CX. Bei mir ist leider Game Motion Plus beim S95C ausgegraut, ich kann es nicht aktivieren. Eine Idee woran es liegen könnte? Ich zocke ausschließlich am PC.
Funktioniert nur mit 60hz und one vrr
@@GamingTech-RUclips ahh okay vielen Dank für die Antwort!
At least in 2020 samsung tv feels more smooth if you turn off game mode, and looks more sharp
When I try to use it on my PlayStation 5, it says the function isn’t available
Yes, (your PS5 is HDR) because for LG G2, the Standard HDR Mode settings are different from the Standard (SDR) mode :
for the Standard (SDR) Mode, you have access to the User mode settings for it, so you can enable the access to the different settings (including Trumotion).
But for the Standard HDR Mode, I can't find how to have access to the User Mode, and so I don't have access to the Settings (for enabling TruMotion for instance).
Any idea how to do that ?
i tried playing with trumotion, it was unplayble to much lag
It seems to be the C2 for me.
cx isn’t completely dead yet, rejoice!
In game mode:
Qn85a: very good for me about it (no soap opera or artefact) négligeable . .....( Q80t no for me (artefact)
On samsung use the faster mittle setting level works great not as smooth but nut no artifacts
You need to test a game with a perfect 30 fps.
Yeah but what about clear motion is off 4:00
That option is awful on all TVs, it's a feature named black frame interpolation/insertion and, while it does smooth movement a bit more, it lowers the TVs brightness too much while also making it look like the light is always flashing intermittently (and technically, it is, hence the name)
Couldn't watch with this option enabled for more than 5 mins before getting headaches
I didn't consider this. I typically avoid the smoothing features, but I might try it out on my G2 because Zelda can definitely be rough on the eyes. Even if smoothing does introduce artifacts, it's not like Zelda has clean razor sharp high-res graphics anyway.
If you have a pc you could emulate it at 60fps
It doesn't emulate well on PC yet. It's all over the place.
Or you dump your Zelda version and play with an emulator in 4K 60.
Nintendo needs to start doing what Playstation did; bring their IP to PC to better remain competitive.
Hahahaha... nunca verá os jogos Nintendo no PC. É a política Nintendo. Resumindo, vai acabar virando esqueleto sem nunca ver isso acontecer.
I like LG better
"HDRTVology does than dintendon't"
I still say get a Mclassic and combine it with your TV's image enhancement features.
I tried Trumotion on Forza Horizon 5 guality mode and the artefacts on world are massive.
In a year the new tvs will be better 😅
Just get it on pc lmao
Pc^^
lg cx is almost perfect for gaming yep it destroy the s95c
Poor guy 😂
Lol! What a mark.
Last year he wouldn't shut up about LG CX
LG WINS.
None that’s just a trick