Came to appreciate this feature after playing Horizon Forbidden West. The performance mode looks very noisy compared to the quality mode. With game motion plus I can play in 30 fps but it feels like 60. Best of both worlds.
I love the graphics in quality mode but after experiencing 60fps, 30fps feels unplayable, it feels so choppy, even with GMP, did you do anything alse to make it smoother? what setting are you using? In performance mode, it now feels like 120 fps, its very nice, when i bought it i read that we should have those options off and i never tried them till now.
@@sal8697 to me looks the same 30 fps, i have a Q80A, i just cant go back to 30fps after trying 60, maybe Ps6 can handle both modes, Ps5 will be about choises xD
Thanks for posting these videos. Samsung does a terrible job at educating people who buy their TVs on how to actually use the features in them. When you actually understand how to use them, they are game changing and helps understand why it is claimed as one of the top gaming TVs out there. I don’t play a ton of competitive multiplayer so using game motion plus instead of 120 Hz and VRR is the way to go for me. I get the best image quality possible.
Glad to. Its crazy how game motion plus is forgotten by a lot of people and even people who get paid to review or talk about TVs I think its a shame because its a great thing that people overlook completely.
@@TechWithKG for me I always knew it was there and it was an “award winning feature,” but I had no idea when to use it or how to adjust settings appropriately.
I play games with game motion plus ON in Game Mode in my seriesX always since I never activate judder and blurr (always keep them to 0 for 60 fps titles) and the input lag difference is inexistent but the games look so much better. It's crazy how nobody talks about how game motion plus it's amazing for 60 fps titles if you don't touch the judder and blurr. At least for me in my Q80B from Samsung makes the image so much better in game mode and I don't feel any input lag penalty, otherwise it runs smoother.
Again, one more great video, full detailed with lots of info for our beloved(????) TV! To be honest I haven't tried this setting before your video. My settings for XSX were 'fixed' at 120hz, NO VRR, Auto HDR Off. I tried it with ACV and there is a huge improvement regarding inverse ghosting. It disappeared for good.
I think u are pretty spot on with this topic. Full disclosure, I don't have a PS5 yet but wanted to set up my game mode preferences. Only playing GTA 5 and so far I have found what u said to be true. Kudos to you. People really should experiment more to find out easy things like this. The worst that could happen is that if u don't like it, turn it off.
Hello, have you managed to significantly reduce in-game blur with your Samsung q70t, because I ordered a Q60A I heard a lot of bad things about this TV (Q60A) I hope it will solve the blur problem
Great video buddy. As a pc gamer, I absolutely hate 30 fps, so this is a must, for the few console games I play. Will buy the ps5 later, and we all know that atleast using - say RT - options then it will Most often run at that Ugly 30 fps. 30 fps for me ruins any game and is a pain. This is the saviour for these Sony exclusives I cant get on my pc. On pc it's g- sync all the way for me. Love it 💪🏽 Really awesome video. We need to get things like this out, as so many dont know this. It's a gamechanger for consol gaming atleast, and even can be good for pc gaming as you said! Keep it up bro 👍🏻
@@TechWithKG Exactly. Wish I had a Samsung back when I had Sony X900E. Would have worked wonder on Uncharted 4/ GOW, or any other Sony game as you say. As we know using motion interpolation is impossible with others. Samsung really worked wonder here - keeping that low input lag along with it. Cant wait to buy a Samsung NEO MiniLED. Belive it will be totaly awesome. 12 BIT and the first Tv with freesync premium pro. Not that I use AMD gpu. More as it shall play along much better with VRR. Atleast, thats what FOMO thinks. So heres hoping 👍🏻🙂
Imagine if there were driver level motion interpolation feature that we could force on games. Now that nvidia and intel already have AI stuff on their gpus, it would be interesting to see if these ai cores can be used to interpolate frames instead of resolution.
Is there any way to subdue this feature? I don’t need a 30fps game to look like a 60fps. I hate the inconsistency and artifacts it brings. But I wouldn’t mind having an experience similar to another display technology, without stutter.
Yeah it's really neat on Samsungs Tv's. As all other manufactures using it, will make it Unplayable, hence that skyhigh inputlag it introduces. So Samsung are doing a hell of a job. Really good for low fps console gaming! Works wonder with Mario Kart via CEMU, for Pc. That 60 fps + motion plus on, is fantastic and I salute Samsung beying the Only one, that can do it 👍🏻
@@TechWithKG Yeah do that, it's awesome. Even much cleaner then on the CX I tested before 👍🏻 Oh and I suggest you play it via CEMU emulator for the pc. Much better graphics - mods - and native 4K! Nintendo games plays soo much better from Pc 😁
I have a ru7100 Samsung tv. I usually use auto motion plus for some games like Star Wars Jedi fallen order, GTA 5, red dead redeption 2, Forza Horizon 4, ark and other 30fps games. Its awesome. I know that game motion plus has a better input lag, but Its still amazing. 60fps is so good
The only problem with Samsung Game Motion Plus is that is doesn't interpolate as near as good as regular Motion Interpolation. The reason it doesn't add much input lag its because it doesn't increase motion resolution by that much. Regular motion interpolation can increase motion resolution up to 1080 lines, and the last time I tested Game Motion Plus was on a Q7FN and it barely reached 450 lines. It feelt a little smoother than regular 30FPS, but not at all like regular motion Interpolation (the ones with 100+ ms input lag), look basically as the game is running at 120FPS. Unless they've changed the algorithm of Game Motion Plus, which I would be very interested to see. Let me know if someone tested Game Motion Plus vs Motion Interpolation outside game mode and did a comparison
I did this, because I thought my GMP was broken because I couldnt tell the difference it on vs native 30fps. Going out of game mode and using normal picture clarity instead looks smooth af but has some weird artifacts.
Thats true for old models. New NEO Qled models (2022 onwards) have very effective and efficient motion interpolation. 30fps really do look like 60fps without artifacts and without too much input lag. It's a game changer!
Bro your so right..... red dead redemption 2 on the q80t was a different game it looks incredible and so smooth had to tweek a little because on ghosting but once I got it right ... wow
Hey Produced by KG, can I give you some feedback? Why do you set your videos to premier, and not just simply upload them? When I see an upload and I'm interested in watching it, and I click on it and see that I can't for another 6 hours... honestly it kinda pisses me off. If you absolutely have to set it for premier, maybe do it just an hour or two in advance? (Though I would prefer just a simple upload.) This really turns me off from a video, and I don't want to return to it later. Just my personal opinion, maybe others don't feel this way. Anyway, all the best man. You're doing a good job. 😊
Thank you for this honest feedback! The reason I do it is I usually like to be at the premieres and chat so I just set a scheduled release if people want to be there to chat. I definitely see your point though I can see how this is frustrating. I will definitely re-evaluate this and I might just hold some live stream Q&A sessions or something to interact live with the viewers and stop doing scheduled premieres and I’ll just change it to instant premieres.
Thanks a lot for your video !! 😁👏 I have a question, I want to play Batman Arkham Knight, Assassin’s Creed the Ezio Collection and Red Dead Redemption 2 with GMP on my Samsung QD-OLED S95B because these games are 30 fps and it feels bad after all PS5 games between 40 and 100 fps 😅 can I do that for these games with my S95B and GMP ?! 🤩 Because I know Sony and devs will never patch these games in native 60fps 😅 Oh ! And I forgot Rise of The Tomb Raider witch is in 4K 30fps, and Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition 30 fps too… I really want to play these PS4 games on my PS5 and with my S95B but with The best GMP settings if it really works for sure ! If it works to feel like 60 fps I’m going to get crazy !! 🤩 Sorry for my English I’m French 😅
The artifacts from the blur reduction were to obvious for me when I tried them. I now have Blur set to 0 and Judder to 10, which works the for both 30 and 60 fps in my experience. Must say it's a great option. (Neo Qled)
Just keep both at 0 if you are in Game Mode since the Main GAME MOTION PLUS it's sharpening your image by a lot and the Main GAME MOTION PLUS it's still working perfectly if you don't touch the judder and blurr settings,let them to 0 .
They recommend turning it off to lower input lag. But i agree with you, this is a must for gaming. I still think that standard settings with motion interpolation looks way better than game mode.
Nice video. I'm noticing improvements with GMP enabled with everything else set to 0 and LED Motion set to Off. Looks like it makes a difference even with everything else at 0 and Off. Seems like the cleanest way to turn it on. For me it makes the horizontal scan lines go away. FYI I'm on the official FW release of 2016.1
@@TechWithKG Do we actually know what happens if you simply enable Game Motion Plus but leave Judder and Blur at 0, and LED Motion Off? Are you still gaining any benefits? And are you adding any extra input lag? Is GMP itself a feature or it has to be coupled with Judder and Blur?? As I said before, I noticed that Spider-Man on PS5 benefits from GMP on as some horizontal lines when panning night skies go away with the it enabled. So it's clearly doing something even with everything else at 0 or Off. Very curious to get some official info on this as most guides online always include Judder or Blur, nobody actually covers the setting by itself.
@@TechWithKG but it if everything else is off I imagine this has to produce the most minimal amount of input lag, right? it's probably barely adding anything. Would be nice to know exactly what it's doing. Maybe the description is accurate.
Even without GMP on, competitive gaming works well. Just got a QN90A and am trying Overwatch 2 on my PS5 and it works well, so best of both worlds; GMP on single-player games works well and without works well too. It's not perfect, but still excellent for gamers like myself.
Great video! I bought the LG C1 and although the picture quality is great, I do feel the motion isn’t very smooth. The stutter with tv shows and movies is a bummer as well. Is the Samsung Q90a a better choice for me?
Thought I was only one who would use game motion plus. I have a Q80T and the scan lines were a real frustration for me. When I first got the TV followed all the guides which say to turn it off. Thought I would give it a try and BAM scan lines gone woohoo. Also in 60fps games like ghost of tsushima it reduced all the ghosting so bonus.
@@TechWithKG That's usually how I play it. Only adding frame interpolation on 30fps games. And on a game by game basis as some games still don't feel right. Control Ultimate with Ray Tracing stills feels sluggish even with frame smoothing at 10
@@TechWithKG I don't believe so. Going by Digital Foundry the high fidelity mode (Ray Tracing) is a locked 30fps on PS5. Just feels stuttery/sluggish even with game motion plus on.
@@TaskRa1 I came across this channel after playing Control Ultimate edition on PS5 as well. Control in performance mode at 60fps feels great. However in Graphics mode (30fps) it feels sluggish and lots of ghosting even with GMP turned on and Judder set to 10 on my Q90R. It seems like it’s game by game dependent.
I wish I knew Samsung got the lowest input lag with motion interpolation. I bought a sony bravia TV and as much as I want motion interpolation enabled, the input lag becomes unbearable..
Same. Have an lg c1 but saw this feature, it’ll work perfect for consoles needing an extra motion clarity boost without a huge hit in input lag, dang it.
I use motion settings for movies my eyes have been spoilt by it so when watching 24fps content etc it just kills my eyes with judder, I hate the judder to a point where if motion plus is not on I can tell because I can see all the frame jumps and fast blurry movement on movies. So I'll stick to motion on my movies enjoy the clarity and the feel of movies feel more life like. Some hate it but hey it's a choice I made mine and I'm grateful I have a choice.
@@shanewillbur1325 Thought I was the only one hehehe most people tend to like the judder which is confusing to me. Picture clarity for the win, custom settings with judder reduction on makes the movies really clear to watch and crisp
I play gta 5 a lot so I noticed the game looks a lot better with game mode turned off and digital clean view turned on it takes away the moving pixels on far away objects when moving also I have “auto motion plus” with blur reduction on 10 and judder reduction on only 2-3 no higher and led clear motion off. Looks amazing on ps4 pro
I tried led clear motion on my tv 1080p tv old one I didn't like it at all. In my opinion it just made the picture look darker and covered detail when I turned it off it looked so much better. I guess this setting is only better for modern samsung tvs in 2021
I'm going to buy the Samsung Odyssey G70 B 4K. I love The Game Motion Plus Feature. It solves the RGP Transversal Stutters without having to have a RTX 4090 13900K overclocked to the Moon.
I need help! I have 65" Q77A QLED 4K Smart TV (2021) and Game Motion Plus doesn't work for me. If I use normal Motion Plus it seems to be fine(with higher input lag probably) but when I turn the Game Mode on and set GMP I see no difference. Why is that?
@@Tyler-nj5dr Samsung support changed motherboard in my TV and it doesn't help. Probably we have to wait for new update. Feel free to raport this to samsung to make them aware of the issue.
Hello, have you managed to significantly reduce in-game blur with your Samsung A77A, because I ordered a Q60A I heard a lot of bad things about this TV (Q60A) I hope it will solve the blur problem
Finally somebody talk about this, I always use game motion plus in my q80t to be clear I always game outside game mode and use picture clarity settings which is the equa to game motion plus but I think i have a better motion and picture there than game motion plus, i just have one question, i always have judder and blur up to 10, is that wrong? Do i have to adjust blur to 10 and judder to 0 to game 60fps and the opposite to game 30fps to have the best experiencie? Thank you, great video by the way
I agree, natural 24 fps looks like a choppy mess to me. I wish they would shoot movies at higher framerates so we didn't need motion interpolation to begin with.
I own a Samsung AU9000 Crystal UHD 4K HDR TV with my Windows pc connected via HDMI 2.0 and no matter what I try I cannot access any of the game picture smoothing menus including picture clarity settings, judder reduction and the game motion engine. I have tried everything for about a week and I might send it back as these are the reasons I bought this tv. Gutted.
In this mode au9000 turn off motion plus, you have to turn off game mode and go to expert picture settings, after that turn on clear motion to 10 and turn off led backlight option. You will get no jadders with a little bit artifacts and 60 fps expression at 30 fps games. I play on it at PS4 pro and it worth it, especially in last of us 2 🤩
I have a Samsung AU7000 and looking at screenshots i took it makes look the picture sharper and better but the motion it adds tbh i just preffer wiithout that. The problem is that it doesn't have a game mode, its called picture clarity and has the same settings as yours but not blur reduction option.I would leave it always on if i could reduce the ammount of blur.
I will have a new video on all my settings soon but if you want em now I believe they are in the last hitman 3 video I did last week, unless your looking for something else specifically?
I have the Q95T and with GMP On the screen gets dimmer, playing Fifa and you can see the difference, when GMP is on you can see the screen dim you turn it off the screen gets brighter its like playing a game with clouds on the sky when GMP its on and when its off you get a sunny day.
You might have the "LED Clear Motion" setting inside the GMP settings turned On. Turn it off, and it won't get Dim. LED clear motion basically inserts one black frame after each frame of a 30fps game to make it true 60fps game. But the brightness drops, because of course half the time your screen is black.
@@IveGoneAnon Not sure if You’re familiar with the game Rocket League, but basically would You recommend turning on that LED clear motion setting when playing something competitive like Rocket League or COD ? ?
I have a tu7000 and game motion plus isn't on tu7000, only tu8000. I was excited and went to turn it on but it wasn't there... Oh well I'll live with 30fps 😔
I’m almost wanting to get the S95b oled for this feature and I heard motion clarity was already better and brighter. I’ve had the lg c1 less than a year lol
Good video. I just came across your video after searching for Game Motion Plus. I have a Q90R and have been testing it out with Control Ultimate Edition on PS5. Running the game in performance mode (60fps) feels great. However running it in graphics mode (30fps) feels sluggish and lots of ghosting/artifacts popping on screen with Game Motion Plus turned on. Is this game dependent? I don’t seem to experience these issues on Miles Morales in Fidelity mode
Since I play mainly non-competitive singleplayer games, I never gave input lag much attention. But I start to struggle with the Game Sekiro. My old TV didn't had a game mode and I guese the input lag was around 80ms. The game was (at least for me) very difficult to play. So I connected the PS4 to my PC Monitor with a much lower response time and wow, it's like the difficulty of the game was set from hard to standard, just because of 50ms difference in input lag. Now I have the Q90t with 10ms input lag and I keep GMP for usual off always. Playing Ghostrunner with such an low input lag is incredible, I really feel the difference immediately when switching GMP on/off in this game. One of the plus-points of the 2020 Samsung QLED Lineup is the extremly low input lag of around 10ms and when you play fast-paced and difficult games like Celest, Ghostrunner or even Dark Souls / Sekiro you will get an advantage and you conquer challanges in this games more easily. Also great for Speedrunners.
When I have this option enabled, if I change the blur or judder reduction, I notice that the framerate actually drops, which is especially noticeable in 2D games. Same thing happens if I turn on LED Clear Motion. Its annoying and is the reason why I have those options disabled.
I do not know sorry I suspect it has something to do with the PWM flicker which some people are sensitive to. I wouldn't mess with anything in that menu though changing the wrong thing can brick your TV.
On an older samsung I had game motion plus wasn't good at all.i got an s95b a month ago and now this feature works great for games that don't have vrr! Actually the s95b is the best,brightest oled/tv I have ever owned or seen
@@jesusalberto3145 nice. Wish I could try it out, want to see what it can do with some 60 fps games, heard it interpolates to gimmick 120 fps. Play a lot of single player on OLED and I can see frames at 60 fps unfortunately, but I wonder if this feature could clean it up for those on consoles.
I have a QN85A and was disappointed by the inverse ghosting when game motion plus was off. I play with it on and will try your judder / blur recommendations.
Tried with 30fps Spider Man and that mode still looks awful. It might look nice in the cinematics, but not in real gameplay, when you frequently change movement direction or pan camera fast.
Тоже самое, думал будет сглаживать как мой старый филипс, ан нет. Но я бы не сказал, что эта штука совсем не работает, всё-таки если плавно вертеть камерой, то заметны улучшения, например NFS немножко плавнее всё же становится. Да и к тому же на рынке 4K теликов пока что достойного решения интерполяции кадров нету, так что и выбора тут нету, либо Game motion plus, либо ничего. Пробовал кстати врубить интерполяцию вне Game Mode- в плане картинки просто божественно, но инпут лаг всё портит.
@@James-K Привет, земляк! =) а какая у тебя модель Самсунга? 2021-го года? Я слышал, что на моделях 2021 года вообще эта штука не работает в 30fps... Читал мнения, что Самсы порезали эту опцию и раньше она работала лучше, но это неточно. Просто купил себе LG и только потом прочитал про эту штуку у Самсунга, теперь места себе не нахожу, т.к. очень много играю в старые игры, где 30 фпс потолок =(
@@zakkman Привет, извиняюсь что не ответил сразу, ютуб перестал присылать уведомления почему-то. Тоже слышал про проблемы моделей QN 21 года, но у меня модель Q90T, а это 2020 год- и все равно функция работает довольно-таки не очень. Мой старый phillips в этом плане справлялся в разы лучше, на PS4 все игры работали как будто бы в ~50 фэпсов. Так что забей, я вот наоборот теперь думаю надо было брать Sony подешвле, либо LG OLED, так как много хорошего слышал про уплавнялки в самсунг, а оказалось вот как. Но все равно во всём остальном телик неплохой, так что ладно уж :)
But i cant use motion plus when vrr is on? I have qn900b.. And cinematic scenes i games looks choppy and slow.. looks like it needs picture clarity on.. but i cant use pucture clairity mode while gaming.. any tips to get smooth cut scenes?
I heard about that, but it hasn’t been totally confirmed that it’s the same thing but that is definitely the speculation, I do hope it is true though because that would be pretty amazing.
No. They don't have interpolation in game mode. Genre selection only adjusts shadow detail. Game motion with LG is black frame insertation which makes screen darker.
For 30 fps games boosted to 60 with judder, it looks unnatural. For 60 fps games boosted to 120fps with blur, it's looks natural because it's noticably smoother.
Artifacting is an issue unfortunately, the same way motion interpolation causes artifacts and “sparkles” in the image. It’s very distracting and I can’t game like that. Motion clarity while gaming is the top of my list though which is why BFI is such a necessity for me. Any way you can make a video comparing 120hz BFI on the Samsung LG and/or Sony oleds?
yes why the fuck is there such a lack of these comparison videos i cannot find a single one comparing the two and i want to know what the brightness levels are with both tvs while performing at 120hz bfi.... i suspect that the samsung tv is the best bfi solution out there since it probably maintains a high level of brightness while doing it
Can you use the settings to just smooth things out a little? I don’t necessarily care for the motion interpolation but I hear stutter on 30fps games on OLED can be distracting. Never bothered me on my current TVs or Switch OLED though.
I play 30 fps game and turn on GMP on my Q95T with de-judder=10, the difference is so insignificant that I can't tell if it's working. In contrast, Auto Motion Plus is better than Game Motion Plus.
Same story with my qn90b. Samsung fucking broke something in a firmware, 30 fps games dont respond anymore. It works great on 60 fps games but cmon who even needs to interpolate 60 fps. So dissapointing
Hi Produced By KG. I still have issues with my XSX on my Q95T. HDMI-CEC control and 4K@120Hz handshake still not working properly. How about your Q90T? Did you find a cure or did you hear something from Samsung reagrding these issues?
I honestly don’t even output to 120hz anymore unless I am playing a 120fps game or something competitive where I need good response time, really because 60hz with GMP is the best way to play. Without GMP there is worse color accuracy, the white balance is off and there is rolling scan lines. As far as a hearing from Samsung definitely not hearing from them. I hope they fix it soon but I’ll be honest I’m getting a bit impatient like the rest of the community.
Thanks for video, I like Game Motion Plus too on Serie X, for me picture is better without VRR, but i don't understand why i can't have Game motion plus on 120 Hz only in 60Hz , it's normal ? 🤔 my TV Q800T
Thanks! Yeah game motion plus doesn’t work with 120hz it will be greyed out the theory is that because the TV is 120hz there’s no way to actually motion interpolation to simulate above that but we really don’t know the real reason.
I like what game motion plus does but it definitely depends on the game. For me VRR will only be used if the framerate is unstable and I’m getting screen tearing on game motion plus.
Should I use game motion plus while playing Forza? I turn the judder reduction up to help the game be more smooth but it makes the HUD of the game go or glitchy and flickers when you drive around is there a fix to this issue or would I just be better off turning the game motion plus's option off?
Im playing ps4 ghost of tsushima with samsung tv q70a 2021 in some battles it gets really lagy? Ive tryed the plus with the settings . Is it just the ps4 holding back the tv??
Game Motion Plus is awesome but unfortunately I can’t use it because on the game I actually want to use it on it stutters every 2 seconds. I tried literally everything on my tv and console nothing can fix it
Which is better? vrr or game motion plus the better option? I've got an Xbox one x and a Samsung q80t and vrr is on automatically. Just a curious question
They do different things, game motion plus is great for simulating a higher frame rate VRR is good for games that have issues running smoothly, some games stutter or have frame tearing VRR will fix this and game motion plus will just make it worse. So I definitely would only use game motion plus on a stable game hopefully that makes sense and helps you out!
You just saved my bad experience with star wars fallen order ps5. I just installed it and i have GMP on. Right from the beginning there was this weird glitch and graphic issue if you block with the lightsaber and move around the camera. I just didnt understand what the hell was going on. Then i read After the latest update this game is locked to 60fps and my GMP settings were blur 0 and judder 10 After watching this video i changed to blur 10 and judder 0 and this did the trick the glitch was gone and also for the first time/game i turned off Hgig for this game it just dimmed the colors too much i think hgig is not implemented for this game. My default setting on ps5 is Performance mode
@@TechWithKG ok but didnt vincent said something that q90t doesnt disable tone mapping when hgig enabled ? Instead a weird mix of both is done. On my xbox one x AC odyssey looked a lot better with Hgig enabled, i guess it depends on the game
@@TechWithKG Hey KG thanks for all the videos over the weeks. Very helpful. If you have time i just wanted to circle back with you and see if you still feel that game motion plus in resolution mode for 4k HDR 60fps is the way to go for single player games? I am getting ready for the launch of Resident Evil Village and was debating turning on game motion plus or not? Thanks!!!
It really depends some games look better with it on some dont, if the game has any frame drops using VRR is the most effective method. However if the game is stable it’s hard to beat GMP for smoothness.
I have Q95T European version since August 2020, using it primary for gaming. I'm not sure about other region tv sets, but game motion plus gaming (latest FW on my TV) does NOT even come close to what native 60fps games look like in motion. It's more like boosting 30fps to about 35 fps-ish maybe, not even 40fps (And I can see the same thing in this video, GMP on 30fps footage does not look like native 60fps at all, even though this video is uploaded with 60fps encoding, the GMP off 60fps footage also does not like 60fps capture, so not really a good demonstration, just open another YT video with Spiderman 60fps gameplay (Miles Morales VS Rhino PS5 60FPS) and scrub to the mall chase scene for comparison sake, however the Ghost of Tsushima footage looked like 60fps capture, strange inconsistencies). Nonetheless, If I switch off game mode and use regular tv mode and boost picture clarity settings for judder to 10, then I'm really getting 60fps like smoothness. In direct mode comparison, the game motion plus judder settings 10/10 is equivalent to about 5/10 for judder settings outside game mode, huge difference in smoothness, but with added crazy amount of latency and interpolation artefacts making it a horrible gaming experience. I just don't really know why people are saying that the game motion plus is like 60fps gaming, when clearly Samsung is avoiding using too much interpolation to avoid artefacting and latency increase, which results in a very little boost to the perceived frame rate. Again maybe it's just the European version of this tv or me or whatever. The other much worse thing with game motion plus, at least for my tv version, is that the picture looks dimmer with game motion plus enabled, noticeably dimmer, therefore I just don't bother using game motion plus, it's worse experience than regular game mode when using HDR, due to the dimmer picture. Overall, game motion plus, the SLIGHT boost to fps and smoothness is appreciable, the increased latency is not noticeable, but the dimmer picture makes it a no-go-feature for me. Your experience may differ. EDIT: On my TV, Inverse ghosting is present in game mode as well as in game motion plus, however I see it rarely so does not bother me. No scrolling horizontal lines in either mode.
Thanks a lot for such detailed answer! I came to idea to change my TV to one of those Samsungs, because i like to play old 30fps games a lot... I heard that in latest models GMP not work AT ALL with 30 fps games, so i thought maybe the just nerfed that picture and perhaps older models work better and i should try to find second hand? But as more i read opinions, the more it seems that GMP is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the smoothness of the regular Motion Interpolation with a ton of input lag =( Am i right? Just if try to think clearly it sounds like a REAL miracle: full and complete Motion Plus feature without input lag? So why other manufacturers don't do this at least on their top-tier TV's? =\ and i find it REALLY strange that there are almost NO direct comparison with 30 fps games showing this as-they-say REVOLUTIONARY feature... Weird...
@@zakkman yes I upgraded to 2021 NEO QLED, the game motion plus de-judder settings does nothing for 30fps, it's broken, you get 30fps no matter where you put the slider at. The only thing that works is smoothing which unfortunately works only if the game is already running at 60fps, then the fps is interpolated to 120fps to match the panel 120Hz. It looks smoother in motion and quick camera pans. But again 30fps is just30 fps. If that's what you're after then forget about 2021 models. The 2020 models at least felt like 35fps-ish with game motion plus and dejudder at max. However no matter what TV you choose 60fps like smoothnes for 30fps games is off the table. At least what I could see on my both Samsung European TV sets.
@@milospolakovic2165 thanks again) so it's not worth to worry about it and to jump in that rabbit-hole quest with searching older model second-hand, beacuse anyway it won't give me that miracle-effect for 30fps games as i will expect and i should calm down and forget about it, right? because miracle won't happen?) you are the only person who gave me detailded feedback to my questions, so thanks again for that again. 🍻 I'm also in European models market. (i'm from Moscow, i see yor name is Milosh and you are not far away, from Balkans or maybe Slovakia, or Slovenia? =)
@@zakkman yes Slovakia, I think we don't have that technology yet, interpolated 60fps from 30fps is an artefacting-glitch fest and inconsistent with frequent frame drops, when the interpolation algorithm struggles to determine correct motion vectors and with massive input latency (film mode). That's why it's so heavily limited in 2020 models to just 35 fps to mitigate the glitches and drops and keep the latency down. Maybe a future AI based interpolation will be able to do it consistently and without artefacts.
Okay maybe someone can help me here lol I also have a Samsung 120hz tv and a ps5. When I play a game capped @60fps, the screen will start loosing frames or studder when i move the camera or look around in game. Any game does this in 60fps. ESPECIALLY First person titles. Ive turned on and off game mode and motion settings. Its jarring to my eyes and unfortunately cant even play some games I bought because im experiencing this. Whats going on?
Perhaps you could do a quick revisit of GMP with the qn90a and current 1904 firmware. Myself (and several users on AVS forums) can not get 30fps content to respond to 'judder' increase in settings and 60fps content looks only slightly better in response to increasing 'blur'. It appears that GMP on the qn90a is severely compromised with the current firmware? Appreciate your confirmation (or not)...
Unfortunately I can’t as I don’t have a QN90A in my possession, I just have the Q90T but when I do the QN90B review next month or two I’ll dive into this should be similar.
the question is, does it work when you buy it or it doesnt work at the first moment? i ask bcuz i want to buy the 90a only reason for the good Game motion plus. but if the function does not work anymore and will not fix, this will be a Nightmare for me
@@laserxlars8056 It did not work when I bought it. I've seen one person talk about it on samsung forums. Seems like a software issue with all new neoqleds like the qn90a. They better resolve it soon. I imagine they would fix it with a software update.
@@Tyler-nj5dr oh man, this is sad. this is the only one benefit(motioninterp. +low lag) what samsung have over another brands. and i know samsung is lazzy with updates etc. .... do you think that is the whole 2021 line has that issues?
I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima PS5 directors cut 60 FPS and if I put the blur reduction on I get horrible artficating especially on the subtitles when moving and also on Jin. Suggestions? I've tried it in and out of game mode
Does Game Motion Plus with both settings set to 0 do anything? Curious because that's what it seems like what I've been playing on since I got the TV a month ago. Also how can you tell what games are playing at what framerates?
the best way to check it is just google "What is the frame rate for ____ game on ___ console" you should be able to get the answer if its 30 or 60 fps. Game motion set to 0 on all settings re-enables some processing without introducing motion interpolation.
U hate my q80t. First: when VRR is used, these horizontal lines appear. Why? Should I really replace tearing with these lines? Something for something? What's the point of that? This is a mockery. Second: there is always ghosting with GMP on, even if it is set to 1. And in 60fps and 30fps games. How can you play with such ghosting? Fuzzy cellphone, gun, figure. This is terrible. I checked 20 games and it's the same everywhere. Who needs it for? Thirdly: color banding in many games. In the sky, sometimes on the menu, etc., etc. :(:(:(:(
The horizontal lines aren’t just on vrr unfortunately. As far as ghosting in GMP I can’t speak on that but your not the first one that pointed that out I’m guessing your using a overseas model and not US right? It’s unfortunate they have more issues I hope this gets fixed up for you guys.
On my Samsung Tv it's called Auto Motion Plus. I love having it turned on when playing video games. But when I watch movies I want it off. I'm thinking of buying a Samsung Q90T. But my question to you is, Can you turn Auto Motion off on on the Q90T. Or is it called Game Motion Now? I gotta be able to have that option to turn it on and off for when I watch movies and play Games.
@@TechWithKG Amazing,, 1 more question for you. Do you think I should buy the Samsung Q90T or should I get the new Samsung QN90A. Do you think the newest NEO Tv looks better than the Q90T.
Actually, there is a difference between game motion plus and auto motion plus. Auto motion plus is usually used for moveis.. Game motion plus, however, is used specific on games and the response time is a lot better. I also use auto motion plus for games in my ru7109 Samsung tv, its pretty good for some games, but game motion plus has a better response time
I have a question about my Q80T and if you think I should swap it out. Could I send you pictures and a video and get your opinion? If yes, where do I send it?
Came to appreciate this feature after playing Horizon Forbidden West. The performance mode looks very noisy compared to the quality mode. With game motion plus I can play in 30 fps but it feels like 60. Best of both worlds.
what model do you have ??
I love the graphics in quality mode but after experiencing 60fps, 30fps feels unplayable, it feels so choppy, even with GMP, did you do anything alse to make it smoother? what setting are you using? In performance mode, it now feels like 120 fps, its very nice, when i bought it i read that we should have those options off and i never tried them till now.
For quality mode try judder 10 and blur 0
@@TechWithKG I tried that but it doesn’t looks like 60fps at all it looks like 40fps or something (q70a)
@@sal8697 to me looks the same 30 fps, i have a Q80A, i just cant go back to 30fps after trying 60, maybe Ps6 can handle both modes, Ps5 will be about choises xD
Just bought my first Sammy panel a QN95B this feature is brilliant, very little artifact's with Judder set to 10. All TV's need this feature.
Thanks for posting these videos. Samsung does a terrible job at educating people who buy their TVs on how to actually use the features in them. When you actually understand how to use them, they are game changing and helps understand why it is claimed as one of the top gaming TVs out there. I don’t play a ton of competitive multiplayer so using game motion plus instead of 120 Hz and VRR is the way to go for me. I get the best image quality possible.
Glad to. Its crazy how game motion plus is forgotten by a lot of people and even people who get paid to review or talk about TVs I think its a shame because its a great thing that people overlook completely.
@@TechWithKG for me I always knew it was there and it was an “award winning feature,” but I had no idea when to use it or how to adjust settings appropriately.
I play games with game motion plus ON in Game Mode in my seriesX always since I never activate judder and blurr (always keep them to 0 for 60 fps titles) and the input lag difference is inexistent but the games look so much better. It's crazy how nobody talks about how game motion plus it's amazing for 60 fps titles if you don't touch the judder and blurr. At least for me in my Q80B from Samsung makes the image so much better in game mode and I don't feel any input lag penalty, otherwise it runs smoother.
Finally a channel who cherishes Motion Interpolation as much as i do 😍
Again, one more great video, full detailed with lots of info for our beloved(????) TV!
To be honest I haven't tried this setting before your video. My settings for XSX were 'fixed' at 120hz, NO VRR, Auto HDR Off. I tried it with ACV and there is a huge improvement regarding inverse ghosting. It disappeared for good.
Awesome glad to hear it’s working out for you.
It's saving me the headache to play return to Arkham at 30 fps. I have set the judder at 3 and it's perfect
Nice! That’s a really good one with game motion
I think u are pretty spot on with this topic. Full disclosure, I don't have a PS5 yet but wanted to set up my game mode preferences. Only playing GTA 5 and so far I have found what u said to be true. Kudos to you. People really should experiment more to find out easy things like this. The worst that could happen is that if u don't like it, turn it off.
Hello, have you managed to significantly reduce in-game blur with your Samsung q70t, because I ordered a Q60A I heard a lot of bad things about this TV (Q60A) I hope it will solve the blur problem
i get ghosting with ghosts of tsushima and game motion plus on, i turn it off and its gone . no scan lines either way. i have a q80t
Same problem here with Q80T. I turn it off and no ghost.
I get it either way on samsung qn90a
@@ryans388 Does your game motion plus work on your QN90A? Mine doesn't seem to do anything, but my regular motion plus works great on movies.
Great video buddy. As a pc gamer, I absolutely hate 30 fps, so this is a must, for the few console games I play. Will buy the ps5 later, and we all know that atleast using - say RT - options then it will Most often run at that Ugly 30 fps. 30 fps for me ruins any game and is a pain. This is the saviour for these Sony exclusives I cant get on my pc.
On pc it's g- sync all the way for me. Love it 💪🏽
Really awesome video. We need to get things like this out, as so many dont know this. It's a gamechanger for consol gaming atleast, and even can be good for pc gaming as you said!
Keep it up bro 👍🏻
Thank you! And yeah I definitely love it on all the Sony exclusives it’s so smooth.
@@TechWithKG Exactly. Wish I had a Samsung back when I had Sony X900E. Would have worked wonder on Uncharted 4/ GOW, or any other Sony game as you say.
As we know using motion interpolation is impossible with others. Samsung really worked wonder here - keeping that low input lag along with it. Cant wait to buy a Samsung NEO MiniLED. Belive it will be totaly awesome. 12 BIT and the first Tv with freesync premium pro. Not that I use AMD gpu. More as it shall play along much better with VRR. Atleast, thats what FOMO thinks. So heres hoping 👍🏻🙂
Imagine if there were driver level motion interpolation feature that we could force on games. Now that nvidia and intel already have AI stuff on their gpus, it would be interesting to see if these ai cores can be used to interpolate frames instead of resolution.
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Is there any way to subdue this feature? I don’t need a 30fps game to look like a 60fps. I hate the inconsistency and artifacts it brings. But I wouldn’t mind having an experience similar to another display technology, without stutter.
Yeah it's really neat on Samsungs Tv's.
As all other manufactures using it, will make it Unplayable, hence that skyhigh inputlag it introduces. So Samsung are doing a hell of a job. Really good for low fps console gaming!
Works wonder with Mario Kart via CEMU, for Pc. That 60 fps + motion plus on, is fantastic and I salute Samsung beying the Only one, that can do it 👍🏻
I haven’t tried it with Mario Kart yet! Thanks for the idea.
@@TechWithKG Yeah do that, it's awesome. Even much cleaner then on the CX I tested before 👍🏻
Oh and I suggest you play it via CEMU emulator for the pc. Much better graphics - mods - and native 4K!
Nintendo games plays soo much better from Pc 😁
Thanks I’ll try it!
I have a ru7100 Samsung tv. I usually use auto motion plus for some games like Star Wars Jedi fallen order, GTA 5, red dead redeption 2, Forza Horizon 4, ark and other 30fps games. Its awesome. I know that game motion plus has a better input lag, but Its still amazing. 60fps is so good
Thank you bro. This helped when I played tsushima. This is helping now to understand on Jedi survivor :)
The only problem with Samsung Game Motion Plus is that is doesn't interpolate as near as good as regular Motion Interpolation. The reason it doesn't add much input lag its because it doesn't increase motion resolution by that much. Regular motion interpolation can increase motion resolution up to 1080 lines, and the last time I tested Game Motion Plus was on a Q7FN and it barely reached 450 lines. It feelt a little smoother than regular 30FPS, but not at all like regular motion Interpolation (the ones with 100+ ms input lag), look basically as the game is running at 120FPS. Unless they've changed the algorithm of Game Motion Plus, which I would be very interested to see. Let me know if someone tested Game Motion Plus vs Motion Interpolation outside game mode and did a comparison
I did this, because I thought my GMP was broken because I couldnt tell the difference it on vs native 30fps. Going out of game mode and using normal picture clarity instead looks smooth af but has some weird artifacts.
Thats true for old models. New NEO Qled models (2022 onwards) have very effective and efficient motion interpolation. 30fps really do look like 60fps without artifacts and without too much input lag. It's a game changer!
Totally agree with you, 100%! I've been playing forza horizon 4 on xbox one S. It's so much fun with GMP ON.
Definitely I hope Samsung never gets rid of this feature.
Bro your so right..... red dead redemption 2 on the q80t was a different game it looks incredible and so smooth had to tweek a little because on ghosting but once I got it right ... wow
Yeah its crazy how it can transform a game.
Hey Produced by KG, can I give you some feedback?
Why do you set your videos to premier, and not just simply upload them?
When I see an upload and I'm interested in watching it, and I click on it and see that I can't for another 6 hours... honestly it kinda pisses me off.
If you absolutely have to set it for premier, maybe do it just an hour or two in advance? (Though I would prefer just a simple upload.)
This really turns me off from a video, and I don't want to return to it later.
Just my personal opinion, maybe others don't feel this way.
Anyway, all the best man. You're doing a good job. 😊
Mighty be fore have good quality on RUclips, but 2-3 hours Max not 6-8 hours to premier. Agree with you @shashank
@@jacerci90 I will change this I definitely can understand the frustration.
Thank you for this honest feedback! The reason I do it is I usually like to be at the premieres and chat so I just set a scheduled release if people want to be there to chat.
I definitely see your point though I can see how this is frustrating. I will definitely re-evaluate this and I might just hold some live stream Q&A sessions or something to interact live with the viewers and stop doing scheduled premieres and I’ll just change it to instant premieres.
@@TechWithKG Thanks for taking feedback positively. And I see it's about to premiere now..gonna watch it after all😀
YuTb need mor videos talk about this. Tnks dude.
Finally, a simple way to play Bloodborne at something close to 60 fps
Thanks a lot for your video !! 😁👏
I have a question, I want to play Batman Arkham Knight, Assassin’s Creed the Ezio Collection and Red Dead Redemption 2 with GMP on my Samsung QD-OLED S95B because these games are 30 fps and it feels bad after all PS5 games between 40 and 100 fps 😅 can I do that for these games with my S95B and GMP ?! 🤩
Because I know Sony and devs will never patch these games in native 60fps 😅
Oh ! And I forgot Rise of The Tomb Raider witch is in 4K 30fps, and Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition 30 fps too… I really want to play these PS4 games on my PS5 and with my S95B but with The best GMP settings if it really works for sure ! If it works to feel like 60 fps I’m going to get crazy !! 🤩
Sorry for my English I’m French 😅
Great video, I would recommend turning off hgig as the picture looks a lot better without it.
That is not true
The artifacts from the blur reduction were to obvious for me when I tried them. I now have Blur set to 0 and Judder to 10, which works the for both 30 and 60 fps in my experience. Must say it's a great option. (Neo Qled)
Judder only works for 30 fps, Blur only for 60.
I have 0 and 10 and it works the best.
@@gucbhispeklfe4454 Blur reduction at 60 fps looked horrible to me, too much artifacts.
Just keep both at 0 if you are in Game Mode since the Main GAME MOTION PLUS it's sharpening your image by a lot and the Main GAME MOTION PLUS it's still working perfectly if you don't touch the judder and blurr settings,let them to 0 .
They recommend turning it off to lower input lag. But i agree with you, this is a must for gaming. I still think that standard settings with motion interpolation looks way better than game mode.
Yeah its so good for 30 fps and input lag isn't even that bad for GMP
Nice video. I'm noticing improvements with GMP enabled with everything else set to 0 and LED Motion set to Off. Looks like it makes a difference even with everything else at 0 and Off. Seems like the cleanest way to turn it on. For me it makes the horizontal scan lines go away. FYI I'm on the official FW release of 2016.1
Thanks yeah game motion plus enables processing a bit I believe so you’ll get a cleaner image
@@TechWithKG Do we actually know what happens if you simply enable Game Motion Plus but leave Judder and Blur at 0, and LED Motion Off?
Are you still gaining any benefits? And are you adding any extra input lag? Is GMP itself a feature or it has to be coupled with Judder and Blur??
As I said before, I noticed that Spider-Man on PS5 benefits from GMP on as some horizontal lines when panning night skies go away with the it enabled. So it's clearly doing something even with everything else at 0 or Off. Very curious to get some official info on this as most guides online always include Judder or Blur, nobody actually covers the setting by itself.
I can’t quite figure it out but I think it re-enables some processing which is why we see a increase in input lag.
@@TechWithKG but it if everything else is off I imagine this has to produce the most minimal amount of input lag, right? it's probably barely adding anything. Would be nice to know exactly what it's doing. Maybe the description is accurate.
Even with both at 0 it still adds some input lag. At least around 8 ms .
Even without GMP on, competitive gaming works well. Just got a QN90A and am trying Overwatch 2 on my PS5 and it works well, so best of both worlds; GMP on single-player games works well and without works well too. It's not perfect, but still excellent for gamers like myself.
What you think about sport games NBA FIFA... GMP ON or OFF??
Great video! I bought the LG C1 and although the picture quality is great, I do feel the motion isn’t very smooth. The stutter with tv shows and movies is a bummer as well. Is the Samsung Q90a a better choice for me?
Thought I was only one who would use game motion plus. I have a Q80T and the scan lines were a real frustration for me. When I first got the TV followed all the guides which say to turn it off. Thought I would give it a try and BAM scan lines gone woohoo. Also in 60fps games like ghost of tsushima it reduced all the ghosting so bonus.
Yeah I can’t play without it anymore. Have you tried using blur at 10 and judder at 0 for 60 fps titles?
@@TechWithKG That's usually how I play it. Only adding frame interpolation on 30fps games.
And on a game by game basis as some games still don't feel right.
Control Ultimate with Ray Tracing stills feels sluggish even with frame smoothing at 10
I haven’t tried control ultimate does it have a lot of performance issues right now?
@@TechWithKG I don't believe so.
Going by Digital Foundry the high fidelity mode (Ray Tracing) is a locked 30fps on PS5.
Just feels stuttery/sluggish even with game motion plus on.
@@TaskRa1 I came across this channel after playing Control Ultimate edition on PS5 as well. Control in performance mode at 60fps feels great. However in Graphics mode (30fps) it feels sluggish and lots of ghosting even with GMP turned on and Judder set to 10 on my Q90R. It seems like it’s game by game dependent.
I wish I knew Samsung got the lowest input lag with motion interpolation. I bought a sony bravia TV and as much as I want motion interpolation enabled, the input lag becomes unbearable..
Same. Have an lg c1 but saw this feature, it’ll work perfect for consoles needing an extra motion clarity boost without a huge hit in input lag, dang it.
I use motion settings for movies my eyes have been spoilt by it so when watching 24fps content etc it just kills my eyes with judder, I hate the judder to a point where if motion plus is not on I can tell because I can see all the frame jumps and fast blurry movement on movies. So I'll stick to motion on my movies enjoy the clarity and the feel of movies feel more life like. Some hate it but hey it's a choice I made mine and I'm grateful I have a choice.
I love it like you do in the same way.
Especially if i’m watching older 80s or 90s movies. It makes them seem like they were filmed yesterday.
@@shanewillbur1325 Thought I was the only one hehehe most people tend to like the judder which is confusing to me. Picture clarity for the win, custom settings with judder reduction on makes the movies really clear to watch and crisp
@@KyleViewing you arent the only one. Seems there are at least two of us. Haha
@@shanewillbur1325 You are not alone 😎
Cant watch anime or movies without some motion smoothing.
I play gta 5 a lot so I noticed the game looks a lot better with game mode turned off and digital clean view turned on it takes away the moving pixels on far away objects when moving also I have “auto motion plus” with blur reduction on 10 and judder reduction on only 2-3 no higher and led clear motion off. Looks amazing on ps4 pro
What is your tv? I use a Samsung ru7100 and I usually use auto motion plus, It looks pretty good, but the input lag is a little bit bad
I tried led clear motion on my tv 1080p tv old one I didn't like it at all. In my opinion it just made the picture look darker and covered detail when I turned it off it looked so much better. I guess this setting is only better for modern samsung tvs in 2021
I'm going to buy the Samsung Odyssey G70 B 4K. I love The Game Motion Plus Feature. It solves the RGP Transversal Stutters without having to have a RTX 4090 13900K overclocked to the Moon.
🎉🎉But if your game runs at 60-70 FPS (Desktop), does this TV model deliver 120~140FPS?
I need help! I have 65" Q77A QLED 4K Smart TV (2021) and Game Motion Plus doesn't work for me. If I use normal Motion Plus it seems to be fine(with higher input lag probably) but when I turn the Game Mode on and set GMP I see no difference. Why is that?
I am having the same issue with my brand new QN90A. Very disappointed. Let me know if you find any fixes or hear anything
@@Tyler-nj5dr Samsung support changed motherboard in my TV and it doesn't help. Probably we have to wait for new update. Feel free to raport this to samsung to make them aware of the issue.
@@bartekz88 Wow really?? That's insane. I may end up refusing them swapping mine if that's the case. I wish they'd give an update or acknowledgement.
@@bartekz88 where would you report this to samsung?
Hello, have you managed to significantly reduce in-game blur with your Samsung A77A, because I ordered a Q60A I heard a lot of bad things about this TV (Q60A) I hope it will solve the blur problem
Finally somebody talk about this, I always use game motion plus in my q80t to be clear I always game outside game mode and use picture clarity settings which is the equa to game motion plus but I think i have a better motion and picture there than game motion plus, i just have one question, i always have judder and blur up to 10, is that wrong? Do i have to adjust blur to 10 and judder to 0 to game 60fps and the opposite to game 30fps to have the best experiencie? Thank you, great video by the way
Sports arent shot at 24hz so its not needed but it helps but its more a must in 24hz content ...movies look better at 120hz.
I agree, natural 24 fps looks like a choppy mess to me. I wish they would shoot movies at higher framerates so we didn't need motion interpolation to begin with.
I own a Samsung AU9000 Crystal UHD 4K HDR TV with my Windows pc connected via HDMI 2.0 and no matter what I try I cannot access any of the game picture smoothing menus including picture clarity settings, judder reduction and the game motion engine. I have tried everything for about a week and I might send it back as these are the reasons I bought this tv. Gutted.
In this mode au9000 turn off motion plus, you have to turn off game mode and go to expert picture settings, after that turn on clear motion to 10 and turn off led backlight option. You will get no jadders with a little bit artifacts and 60 fps expression at 30 fps games. I play on it at PS4 pro and it worth it, especially in last of us 2 🤩
@@singularonaut AU9000 crystal TV Samsung is great TV for PlayStation and Xbox series
Thanks for video, can you drop here settings for game motion plus , from 30fps to 60 and from 60 to 120 ? It would be really appreciated, thx!
I have a Samsung AU7000 and looking at screenshots i took it makes look the picture sharper and better but the motion it adds tbh i just preffer wiithout that. The problem is that it doesn't have a game mode, its called picture clarity and has the same settings as yours but not blur reduction option.I would leave it always on if i could reduce the ammount of blur.
Why its not working for me it says this function isnt available
Either in 120hz or you have VRR turned on turn those off you need to be in 60hz output
hola. pero si pongo a 60 hz. y juego de 60 fps se vería a 120 fps?
This future looks amazing in red dead 2
This is awesome
I mainly play rocket league, fifa and cod so i understand not to use GMP on cod but what about the other 2? (PS5)
What you think about game motion plus ? After 1 year.. FIFA gameplay is 4k60 and do you use motion plus ON ?
drop you’re settings for the q90t champ
I will have a new video on all my settings soon but if you want em now I believe they are in the last hitman 3 video I did last week, unless your looking for something else specifically?
8:25 for how to fix screen scanning lines
I have the Q95T and with GMP On the screen gets dimmer, playing Fifa and you can see the difference, when GMP is on you can see the screen dim you turn it off the screen gets brighter its like playing a game with clouds on the sky when GMP its on and when its off you get a sunny day.
You might have the "LED Clear Motion" setting inside the GMP settings turned On. Turn it off, and it won't get Dim.
LED clear motion basically inserts one black frame after each frame of a 30fps game to make it true 60fps game. But the brightness drops, because of course half the time your screen is black.
This is exactly what I was about to write. Thanks for being very helpful.
@@TechWithKG I have that setting turned off.
@@IveGoneAnon Not sure if You’re familiar with the game Rocket League, but basically would You recommend turning on that LED clear motion setting when playing something competitive like Rocket League or COD ? ?
I have a tu7000 and game motion plus isn't on tu7000, only tu8000. I was excited and went to turn it on but it wasn't there... Oh well I'll live with 30fps 😔
I also have the TU7000, I managed to get the “Game Mode Settings” menu activated on mines via service menu settings.
Use auto motion plus
Just got my qn90a and this doesn't work at 30fps. It interpolates 60 to 120, but 30fps content it does nothing for.
What you think is this good for FIFA 23 because FIFA is 4k60
@@trumpameri1638 it's perfect as a gaming tv and for fifa yes. I still have it I'm really happy with it. The picture is fantastic.
@@djpquickplays1244 great 💪💪💪
Really hope LG adds this to their newer models through an update I'm very envious of this feature
Same here. With have tru-motion outside game mode but we take a huge hit in input lag-85 ms.
I’m almost wanting to get the S95b oled for this feature and I heard motion clarity was already better and brighter. I’ve had the lg c1 less than a year lol
Good video. I just came across your video after searching for Game Motion Plus. I have a Q90R and have been testing it out with Control Ultimate Edition on PS5. Running the game in performance mode (60fps) feels great. However running it in graphics mode (30fps) feels sluggish and lots of ghosting/artifacts popping on screen with Game Motion Plus turned on. Is this game dependent? I don’t seem to experience these issues on Miles Morales in Fidelity mode
What is Ghosting? I keep seeing a lot of people mentioning that but I dont understand what you all mean lol.
@@steadycuzzin5813 A faint transparent image trail while in motion.
Since I play mainly non-competitive singleplayer games, I never gave input lag much attention. But I start to struggle with the Game Sekiro. My old TV didn't had a game mode and I guese the input lag was around 80ms. The game was (at least for me) very difficult to play. So I connected the PS4 to my PC Monitor with a much lower response time and wow, it's like the difficulty of the game was set from hard to standard, just because of 50ms difference in input lag. Now I have the Q90t with 10ms input lag and I keep GMP for usual off always. Playing Ghostrunner with such an low input lag is incredible, I really feel the difference immediately when switching GMP on/off in this game. One of the plus-points of the 2020 Samsung QLED Lineup is the extremly low input lag of around 10ms and when you play fast-paced and difficult games like Celest, Ghostrunner or even Dark Souls / Sekiro you will get an advantage and you conquer challanges in this games more easily. Also great for Speedrunners.
Yeah I can definitely see input lag being a factor with sekiro that game tore me up lol
In Sekiro, set the gmp settings to blur:3 judder:7 and enjoy smooth gameplay.
When I have this option enabled, if I change the blur or judder reduction, I notice that the framerate actually drops, which is especially noticeable in 2D games. Same thing happens if I turn on LED Clear Motion. Its annoying and is the reason why I have those options disabled.
Do you by chance know what the “Flickerless” option does? Is it convenient for gaming? It’s in the secret service menu.
I do not know sorry I suspect it has something to do with the PWM flicker which some people are sensitive to. I wouldn't mess with anything in that menu though changing the wrong thing can brick your TV.
On an older samsung I had game motion plus wasn't good at all.i got an s95b a month ago and now this feature works great for games that don't have vrr! Actually the s95b is the best,brightest oled/tv I have ever owned or seen
I have an lg c1 but looking at this tv for this feature
@@beammeupscottsp7952 yes!game motion plus works surprisingly well especially with older games
@@jesusalberto3145 nice. Wish I could try it out, want to see what it can do with some 60 fps games, heard it interpolates to gimmick 120 fps. Play a lot of single player on OLED and I can see frames at 60 fps unfortunately, but I wonder if this feature could clean it up for those on consoles.
@@jesusalberto3145 My qn90b gmp is not working for 30 fps content. It shows as on but nothing changes. What is the problem?
I used this with uncharted 4 ps5 quality mode and it really makes it smooth
I have a QN85A and was disappointed by the inverse ghosting when game motion plus was off.
I play with it on and will try your judder / blur recommendations.
Was this something you always had or did it just pop up with update?
Tried with 30fps Spider Man and that mode still looks awful. It might look nice in the cinematics, but not in real gameplay, when you frequently change movement direction or pan camera fast.
Тоже самое, думал будет сглаживать как мой старый филипс, ан нет. Но я бы не сказал, что эта штука совсем не работает, всё-таки если плавно вертеть камерой, то заметны улучшения, например NFS немножко плавнее всё же становится. Да и к тому же на рынке 4K теликов пока что достойного решения интерполяции кадров нету, так что и выбора тут нету, либо Game motion plus, либо ничего. Пробовал кстати врубить интерполяцию вне Game Mode- в плане картинки просто божественно, но инпут лаг всё портит.
@@James-K Привет, земляк! =) а какая у тебя модель Самсунга? 2021-го года? Я слышал, что на моделях 2021 года вообще эта штука не работает в 30fps... Читал мнения, что Самсы порезали эту опцию и раньше она работала лучше, но это неточно. Просто купил себе LG и только потом прочитал про эту штуку у Самсунга, теперь места себе не нахожу, т.к. очень много играю в старые игры, где 30 фпс потолок =(
@@zakkman Привет, извиняюсь что не ответил сразу, ютуб перестал присылать уведомления почему-то. Тоже слышал про проблемы моделей QN 21 года, но у меня модель Q90T, а это 2020 год- и все равно функция работает довольно-таки не очень. Мой старый phillips в этом плане справлялся в разы лучше, на PS4 все игры работали как будто бы в ~50 фэпсов. Так что забей, я вот наоборот теперь думаю надо было брать Sony подешвле, либо LG OLED, так как много хорошего слышал про уплавнялки в самсунг, а оказалось вот как. Но все равно во всём остальном телик неплохой, так что ладно уж :)
But i cant use motion plus when vrr is on? I have qn900b..
And cinematic scenes i games looks choppy and slow.. looks like it needs picture clarity on.. but i cant use pucture clairity mode while gaming.. any tips to get smooth cut scenes?
What settings do you use in Game Mode SDR/HDR ?
Bro the LG 2021 models have the OLED motion pro in their game optimizer selection and its just like the game motion plus
I heard about that, but it hasn’t been totally confirmed that it’s the same thing but that is definitely the speculation, I do hope it is true though because that would be pretty amazing.
No. They don't have interpolation in game mode. Genre selection only adjusts shadow detail. Game motion with LG is black frame insertation which makes screen darker.
For 30 fps games boosted to 60 with judder, it looks unnatural.
For 60 fps games boosted to 120fps with blur, it's looks natural because it's noticably smoother.
So if you play at 60fps it shows you 120 images with gmp?
@@telacreiste984 if u have a tv that can output 120fps
@@jblove53 if you play a 60fps game with gmp and blur and judder set to 0 will it feel like 120fps or do you have to add blur?
30 Fps already looks unnatural and unplayable, judder reduction or motion interpolation just makes it pretty and playable🤷♂️
Artifacting is an issue unfortunately, the same way motion interpolation causes artifacts and “sparkles” in the image. It’s very distracting and I can’t game like that. Motion clarity while gaming is the top of my list though which is why BFI is such a necessity for me. Any way you can make a video comparing 120hz BFI on the Samsung LG and/or Sony oleds?
Have you tried blur to 0 and judder to 10? For me it was the blur reduction that caused the artifacts.
yes why the fuck is there such a lack of these comparison videos i cannot find a single one comparing the two and i want to know what the brightness levels are with both tvs while performing at 120hz bfi.... i suspect that the samsung tv is the best bfi solution out there since it probably maintains a high level of brightness while doing it
Can you use the settings to just smooth things out a little? I don’t necessarily care for the motion interpolation but I hear stutter on 30fps games on OLED can be distracting. Never bothered me on my current TVs or Switch OLED though.
I play 30 fps game and turn on GMP on my Q95T with de-judder=10, the difference is so insignificant that I can't tell if it's working. In contrast, Auto Motion Plus is better than Game Motion Plus.
Same story with my qn90b. Samsung fucking broke something in a firmware, 30 fps games dont respond anymore. It works great on 60 fps games but cmon who even needs to interpolate 60 fps. So dissapointing
I agree. Game Motion Plus was way better before than now. somethings wrong@@ardasevmis7583
Hi Produced By KG. I still have issues with my XSX on my Q95T. HDMI-CEC control and 4K@120Hz handshake still not working properly. How about your Q90T? Did you find a cure or did you hear something from Samsung reagrding these issues?
I honestly don’t even output to 120hz anymore unless I am playing a 120fps game or something competitive where I need good response time, really because 60hz with GMP is the best way to play. Without GMP there is worse color accuracy, the white balance is off and there is rolling scan lines.
As far as a hearing from Samsung definitely not hearing from them. I hope they fix it soon but I’ll be honest I’m getting a bit impatient like the rest of the community.
Thanks for video, I like Game Motion Plus too on Serie X, for me picture is better without VRR, but i don't understand why i can't have Game motion plus on 120 Hz only in 60Hz , it's normal ? 🤔 my TV Q800T
Thanks! Yeah game motion plus doesn’t work with 120hz it will be greyed out the theory is that because the TV is 120hz there’s no way to actually motion interpolation to simulate above that but we really don’t know the real reason.
@@TechWithKG Thanks for your answer 😊 You prefer VRR or Game Motion Plus ?
I like what game motion plus does but it definitely depends on the game. For me VRR will only be used if the framerate is unstable and I’m getting screen tearing on game motion plus.
@@TechWithKG Thank you very much for the explanations I understand better now, the VRR does not improve the graphics then? it's just a frame rate? 😊
No problem and yeah that’s exactly correct.
Is game motion plus disabled with PC use? It remains greyed out but with console it's available.
What do you think of led moving setting on game motion plus
Thanks for this
No problem, thank you for watching and being apart of the community!
Should I use game motion plus while playing Forza? I turn the judder reduction up to help the game be more smooth but it makes the HUD of the game go or glitchy and flickers when you drive around is there a fix to this issue or would I just be better off turning the game motion plus's option off?
Why i noticed a lot of Inverse Ghosting (purple) when i play RE2 on my Q80T (HDR GMP activated)?
Do u need motion plus if the game already playing on 60fps and 120fps thx and why to needed on if my game can play 60fps and 120fps thx
Im playing ps4 ghost of tsushima with samsung tv q70a 2021 in some battles it gets really lagy? Ive tryed the plus with the settings . Is it just the ps4 holding back the tv??
I think game mode in My Qled make quality low and contrast too i turn off it usually what u think about game mode ?
But you have tô turn of VRR
Game motion plus is completely greyed out on my 2021 85” qled…
Game Motion Plus is awesome but unfortunately I can’t use it because on the game I actually want to use it on it stutters every 2 seconds. I tried literally everything on my tv and console nothing can fix it
Hello, someone would have tried on the Samsung Q60A I would like your opinion because I ordered this TV
Do you think GMP on samsung works better for motion blur than regular motion on LG C2 oled? I really like smoothness in games 😅
Yes if we are talking 30fps games without a doubt but remember you can get GMP on OLED with Samsung too
Which is better? vrr or game motion plus the better option? I've got an Xbox one x and a Samsung q80t and vrr is on automatically. Just a curious question
They do different things, game motion plus is great for simulating a higher frame rate VRR is good for games that have issues running smoothly, some games stutter or have frame tearing VRR will fix this and game motion plus will just make it worse. So I definitely would only use game motion plus on a stable game hopefully that makes sense and helps you out!
You just saved my bad experience with star wars fallen order ps5. I just installed it and i have GMP on. Right from the beginning there was this weird glitch and graphic issue if you block with the lightsaber and move around the camera. I just didnt understand what the hell was going on. Then i read After the latest update this game is locked to 60fps and my GMP settings were blur 0 and judder 10 After watching this video i changed to blur 10 and judder 0 and this did the trick the glitch was gone and also for the first time/game i turned off Hgig for this game it just dimmed the colors too much i think hgig is not implemented for this game. My default setting on ps5 is Performance mode
HGiG really just disables some tone mapping so you probably just prefer the TVs tone mapping for this game.
@@TechWithKG ok but didnt vincent said something that q90t doesnt disable tone mapping when hgig enabled ? Instead a weird mix of both is done. On my xbox one x AC odyssey looked a lot better with Hgig enabled, i guess it depends on the game
Yeah it definitely doesn’t disable it all
Hi KG - Would you recommend leaving HGIG on when running game motion plus at 60?
Yeah I would leave it on.
@@TechWithKG Hey KG thanks for all the videos over the weeks. Very helpful. If you have time i just wanted to circle back with you and see if you still feel that game motion plus in resolution mode for 4k HDR 60fps is the way to go for single player games? I am getting ready for the launch of Resident Evil Village and was debating turning on game motion plus or not? Thanks!!!
It really depends some games look better with it on some dont, if the game has any frame drops using VRR is the most effective method. However if the game is stable it’s hard to beat GMP for smoothness.
@@TechWithKG Thanks! However PS5 does not currently support VRR yet correct?
Correct
I have Q95T European version since August 2020, using it primary for gaming. I'm not sure about other region tv sets, but game motion plus gaming (latest FW on my TV) does NOT even come close to what native 60fps games look like in motion. It's more like boosting 30fps to about 35 fps-ish maybe, not even 40fps (And I can see the same thing in this video, GMP on 30fps footage does not look like native 60fps at all, even though this video is uploaded with 60fps encoding, the GMP off 60fps footage also does not like 60fps capture, so not really a good demonstration, just open another YT video with Spiderman 60fps gameplay (Miles Morales VS Rhino PS5 60FPS) and scrub to the mall chase scene for comparison sake, however the Ghost of Tsushima footage looked like 60fps capture, strange inconsistencies). Nonetheless, If I switch off game mode and use regular tv mode and boost picture clarity settings for judder to 10, then I'm really getting 60fps like smoothness. In direct mode comparison, the game motion plus judder settings 10/10 is equivalent to about 5/10 for judder settings outside game mode, huge difference in smoothness, but with added crazy amount of latency and interpolation artefacts making it a horrible gaming experience. I just don't really know why people are saying that the game motion plus is like 60fps gaming, when clearly Samsung is avoiding using too much interpolation to avoid artefacting and latency increase, which results in a very little boost to the perceived frame rate. Again maybe it's just the European version of this tv or me or whatever. The other much worse thing with game motion plus, at least for my tv version, is that the picture looks dimmer with game motion plus enabled, noticeably dimmer, therefore I just don't bother using game motion plus, it's worse experience than regular game mode when using HDR, due to the dimmer picture. Overall, game motion plus, the SLIGHT boost to fps and smoothness is appreciable, the increased latency is not noticeable, but the dimmer picture makes it a no-go-feature for me. Your experience may differ.
EDIT:
On my TV, Inverse ghosting is present in game mode as well as in game motion plus, however I see it rarely so does not bother me. No scrolling horizontal lines in either mode.
Thanks a lot for such detailed answer! I came to idea to change my TV to one of those Samsungs, because i like to play old 30fps games a lot... I heard that in latest models GMP not work AT ALL with 30 fps games, so i thought maybe the just nerfed that picture and perhaps older models work better and i should try to find second hand? But as more i read opinions, the more it seems that GMP is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the smoothness of the regular Motion Interpolation with a ton of input lag =( Am i right?
Just if try to think clearly it sounds like a REAL miracle: full and complete Motion Plus feature without input lag? So why other manufacturers don't do this at least on their top-tier TV's? =\ and i find it REALLY strange that there are almost NO direct comparison with 30 fps games showing this as-they-say REVOLUTIONARY feature... Weird...
@@zakkman yes I upgraded to 2021 NEO QLED, the game motion plus de-judder settings does nothing for 30fps, it's broken, you get 30fps no matter where you put the slider at. The only thing that works is smoothing which unfortunately works only if the game is already running at 60fps, then the fps is interpolated to 120fps to match the panel 120Hz. It looks smoother in motion and quick camera pans. But again 30fps is just30 fps. If that's what you're after then forget about 2021 models. The 2020 models at least felt like 35fps-ish with game motion plus and dejudder at max. However no matter what TV you choose 60fps like smoothnes for 30fps games is off the table. At least what I could see on my both Samsung European TV sets.
@@milospolakovic2165 thanks again) so it's not worth to worry about it and to jump in that rabbit-hole quest with searching older model second-hand, beacuse anyway it won't give me that miracle-effect for 30fps games as i will expect and i should calm down and forget about it, right? because miracle won't happen?) you are the only person who gave me detailded feedback to my questions, so thanks again for that again. 🍻
I'm also in European models market. (i'm from Moscow, i see yor name is Milosh and you are not far away, from Balkans or maybe Slovakia, or Slovenia? =)
@@zakkman yes Slovakia, I think we don't have that technology yet, interpolated 60fps from 30fps is an artefacting-glitch fest and inconsistent with frequent frame drops, when the interpolation algorithm struggles to determine correct motion vectors and with massive input latency (film mode). That's why it's so heavily limited in 2020 models to just 35 fps to mitigate the glitches and drops and keep the latency down. Maybe a future AI based interpolation will be able to do it consistently and without artefacts.
Okay maybe someone can help me here lol I also have a Samsung 120hz tv and a ps5. When I play a game capped @60fps, the screen will start loosing frames or studder when i move the camera or look around in game. Any game does this in 60fps. ESPECIALLY First person titles. Ive turned on and off game mode and motion settings. Its jarring to my eyes and unfortunately cant even play some games I bought because im experiencing this. Whats going on?
I’m getting really bad pulsing like super fast flickering of the image then it smooths out but still feels like optical vibrations. Also. It dims hard
Are you using the LED clear motion? This sounds like you are if so thats the black frame insertion.
Perhaps you could do a quick revisit of GMP with the qn90a and current 1904 firmware. Myself (and several users on AVS forums) can not get 30fps content to respond to 'judder' increase in settings and 60fps content looks only slightly better in response to increasing 'blur'. It appears that GMP on the qn90a is severely compromised with the current firmware? Appreciate your confirmation (or not)...
Unfortunately I can’t as I don’t have a QN90A in my possession, I just have the Q90T but when I do the QN90B review next month or two I’ll dive into this should be similar.
@@TechWithKG thanks for your reply, look forward.
@@bonzer2u The same shit with my qn90b... Did you find a solution or is samsung false advertising
My Game motion plus doesn't seem to work at all on my qn90a. Have you heard anything about this? Major bummer. :/
I have heard others say this as well they must have changed something with it.
@@TechWithKG Man I hope they fix it, that's the reason I bought the TV.
the question is, does it work when you buy it or it doesnt work at the first moment? i ask bcuz i want to buy the 90a only reason for the good Game motion plus. but if the function does not work anymore and will not fix, this will be a Nightmare for me
@@laserxlars8056 It did not work when I bought it. I've seen one person talk about it on samsung forums. Seems like a software issue with all new neoqleds like the qn90a. They better resolve it soon. I imagine they would fix it with a software update.
@@Tyler-nj5dr oh man, this is sad. this is the only one benefit(motioninterp. +low lag) what samsung have over another brands. and i know samsung is lazzy with updates etc. ....
do you think that is the whole 2021 line has that issues?
0:06 not if your pc doesn't suck
What u recommend for a competitive game like rocket league on ps5
Judder 0 Blur 10
@@TechWithKG I just took the feature off bro . I like my other settings.
Thank you for the reply brotha
I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima PS5 directors cut 60 FPS and if I put the blur reduction on I get horrible artficating especially on the subtitles when moving and also on Jin. Suggestions? I've tried it in and out of game mode
Artifacts better than jadders in my opinion)
Does Game Motion Plus with both settings set to 0 do anything? Curious because that's what it seems like what I've been playing on since I got the TV a month ago. Also how can you tell what games are playing at what framerates?
the best way to check it is just google "What is the frame rate for ____ game on ___ console" you should be able to get the answer if its 30 or 60 fps. Game motion set to 0 on all settings re-enables some processing without introducing motion interpolation.
I use auto motion plus because ru7100 doesn't have game motion plus. It is still good.
I cant activate it,it say function not avaible
Anyone can help me ,at first it say a have to disactivate the vrr fron the xbox,now i cant heither
Why no led clear motion?
Do you know why when I navigate to select Game Motion Plus Settings in the menu I can’t because the option is disabled?
is VRR enabled or are you outputting to 120hz? If so that is why its disabled
What samsung tv have this setting????
U hate my q80t. First: when VRR is used, these horizontal lines appear. Why? Should I really replace tearing with these lines? Something for something? What's the point of that? This is a mockery. Second: there is always ghosting with GMP on, even if it is set to 1. And in 60fps and 30fps games. How can you play with such ghosting? Fuzzy cellphone, gun, figure. This is terrible. I checked 20 games and it's the same everywhere. Who needs it for? Thirdly: color banding in many games. In the sky, sometimes on the menu, etc., etc. :(:(:(:(
I have these exact problems on my Q90t, I actually like the picture better in game mode but the ghosting is absolutely brutal.
Had a Q90T and returned it, absolute garbage for gaming. Picked up a LG cX and couldn’t be happier with the experience on my Series X.
The horizontal lines aren’t just on vrr unfortunately. As far as ghosting in GMP I can’t speak on that but your not the first one that pointed that out I’m guessing your using a overseas model and not US right? It’s unfortunate they have more issues I hope this gets fixed up for you guys.
@@-crixusdingess6562 do you have ghosting with GMP on as well?
On my Samsung Tv it's called Auto Motion Plus. I love having it turned on when playing video games. But when I watch movies I want it off.
I'm thinking of buying a Samsung Q90T. But my question to you is, Can you turn Auto Motion off on on the Q90T. Or is it called Game Motion Now? I gotta be able to have that option to turn it on and off for when I watch movies and play Games.
Yeah you can turn it off.
@@TechWithKG Amazing,,
1 more question for you. Do you think I should buy the Samsung Q90T or should I get the new Samsung QN90A. Do you think the newest NEO Tv looks better than the Q90T.
Actually, there is a difference between game motion plus and auto motion plus. Auto motion plus is usually used for moveis.. Game motion plus, however, is used specific on games and the response time is a lot better. I also use auto motion plus for games in my ru7109 Samsung tv, its pretty good for some games, but game motion plus has a better response time
Cool man , nobudy talks this .. but this is very important
Thanks yeah I think so too its odd how nobody actually cares about such a cool enhancement to your gaming experience.
Hi, great video does game motion plus push it to 120fps?
For 60fps games it gives the feeling of a 120hz gameplay yes.
@@TechWithKG damn
I have a question about my Q80T and if you think I should swap it out. Could I send you pictures and a video and get your opinion? If yes, where do I send it?
I can try and help you can send the clip via Instagram or Twitter @producedbykg on both platforms
@@TechWithKG sent! On Instagram.