This is a GAME CHANGER for riding a motorcycle in the heat...
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Riding a motorcycle in the heat causes issues like dehydration, fatigue, and problems with concentration. Cycle Chillers has a couple of products that can change that for you. Their cooling vests will circulate ice-cold water through a vest and keep you cool even on the hottest days on a motorcycle. Learn more at www.MCrider.com...
This cooling system was purchased using my own money and was not provided for purposes of review. Just sharing a good product with viewers who might need a solution for riding in the heat.
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He aint playing. i have a compcooler with a small ice chest and vest. this is a game changer, life changing. ads hours or days to your riding time. no one wants to profusely sweat. making it difficult to down right dangerous to ride. love the video !! everyone should try this !
As someone who lives in the desert in AZ and often rides in 100 degree plus weather, I am very interested in this.
@richmondvaper - I would think the Arizonia heat would be oppressive?!
Ice water cooling would give you another tool in the tool bag.
Like adding a rain gear in case you need it.
It has worked well for me in TX heat.
richmondvaper I’m a “Zonie”, too. This looks like a good product for any number of occupations that have to be outdoors. Yesterday it was 113 in the Phoenix area.
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We are designing a backpack that can either supply constant cool air (depending on ambient temps... Currently we can get about 20F drop in 100F ambient with 35% humidity) injection to helmet,jacket, and pants via motorcycle battery or about 4 hrs per location under internal battery power. No water, no ice. A lot depends on solar radiation heat absorbed and the heat index. We are over 1 year in design and engineering but hope to have a test unit available in 2 - 3 months. It also does heating by flipping a switch. Just a backpack. No vest. Backpack has tubes for helmet, arms, torso, and thighs that simply slide down into any gear you wear. Would you be interested in giving us feedback if we shipped you a unit?
Did you ever make that test unit?
@TheHouseofKnights yes, I don't feel it's ready to put in the hands of an average person. Too many settings to adjust and they are ultra touchy. Quite a bit heavier than I had planned too.
He’s dead on the money!! As someone that rode Hwy 395 on Fathers Day 2021 when Death Valley hit 136 degrees, everything, ANYTHING, helps.
I didn’t know about the evaporative clothing, let alone a device like this, and got sick from heat exhaustion riding from LA to Southern Oregon in record heat.
I ride at night after the first day and a half, but for those that don’t like riding at night, invest in this with extra batteries!!! Don’t try and be tough or you’ll end up sick like I was. Be smart and but all sorts of cooling gear in case on fails, you’ll always have a back up. I never leave home without rain gear and my evaporative gear as a minimum. Please learn from those of us that have the extreme stories, don’t be as dumb as we were.
I'm also one of Stu's beta testers and I can vouch for these systems too! I have the full size Solo tank connected to my ride's (CB500X) battery by SAE connector, and I use a generic bungee net to secure it to my rear seat. The large standalone reservoir has lasted me as much as 6 hours on a 95F day.
Probably will do my own short video about it soon. I insisted on paying for mine last year even though he offered it as a promotion during the initial public testing. TOTALLY worth it.
Wow. That is very generous of you to offer to pay for it even though it was given for free.
@@huyked Not really generous, I was just excited to find a product like this, and I wanted a full production-run unit of my own (rather than a test unit). I have hyperhidrosis, an excessive sweat condition, and I can overheat easily - without a cooling device, I can't ride at all in the summer, it's just out of the question.
It was entirely worth the investment. I've even replaced a couple parts on it and provided design improvement suggestions that were incorporated into newer versions of the system.
@@ToddVierling
Ah, I see.
And, wow, you were the right guy to get the test unit to, with your design improvements and all. What did you suggest that improved it, if you don't mind me asking?
@@huyked The most important issue in the early units was where the feed hoses did not always stay well-connected if the pump was running and the quick-disconnect connectors weren't firmly attached. In a case like that, extra pressure could build up and cause one of the connector hoses to disconnect and spray water around the pump inside the carrying case. Newer units are much better attached at the fittings, and should not have this problem.
@@ToddVierling
Very nice, sir, for your input/improvement on the design. I thank you for that if I ever decide to invest in the comfort this unit brings.
A side question if I may. Does the cold ever feel too cold if you're just wearing a t-shirt? Of course, this can be fixed with different clothing one chooses to wear.
Great video, Kevin. I have had my CycleCooler vest (backpack) for nearly a year now, and since moving to Phoenix, I couldn't be riding farther than the corner store without it :). I'm glad you hooked up with Stu, as I had recommended to him that he contact you when I first bought my vest. A couple of tips for my fellow riders. First, buy an extra bladder so that you can always have a fresh one when you exhaust the first in the middle of nowhere. I keep my extra in a small lunchbox type cooler strapped to the passenger seat on my trike (along with snacks that benefit from cooling). Second, you can buy a set of extension hoses that will allow you to use the backpack like the Solo version, strapping it to the pillion or passenger seat, or to your luggage rack. This will remove the weight from your back; when you want to get off the bike, you can unstrap the backpack, undo the extension hoses, and hook the vest to the backpack as usual. Finally, you should always wear a tee shirt under the vest, as well as wearing a relatively windproof jacket over the vest; the jacket insulates the vest from the ambient wind and air, and slows the warming of the cooling water significantly for longer cooling time. This last point really helps us in the ATTGAT crowd! I highly recommend the CycleCooler vest, and agree that Stu is a great guy. Ride safe, COOL, and I'll see you on the road.
@Walt Novinger - great to hear your comments.
Thanks for the kind word Sir.
Great tips Walt!
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Seems like a great piece of kit. Just remember that if you do get to tour the many great routes we have here in Scotland, you probably won't need, or want, any additional cooling 😄
Hey Craig, a few years ago myself and friend rode the NC500 in late August! The temperature was almost unbearable for most of our riding time. High 20s Celsius. Luckily we didn’t have screens fitted to our hire bikes so some comfort when traveling! These packs would have been fantastic then, and on our subsequent trips in Spain! Ride safe everyone. 😷😷
@@chrisclark9974 high 20s C? Don't come to Texas you'll think you died and went to hell.
Ordering one. Georgia summer heat and humidity make riding an endurance challenge.
I live in Rome ga so I understand the heat
Try riding through Death Valley when the temperature is 117 degrees with full sun. I have to wonder how anyone ever made it across that valley before the appearance of motorized vehicles. I was scared to death my Harley might die on me, and if it had, I'm certain I would have died too. I stopped every place there was an opportunity to stop to try and rehydrate and cool off. Wore my gloves because the heat coming off the pavement was like holding your hand over a stove burner. There were three places. One shortly after entering Death Valley, which had cold beer but the temps inside were not exactly cool. The second one, midway, had no airconditioning, but a big fan and refrigerated water to drink. They had a hose you could soak yourself with outside, but the water was about the temperature you'd have your bathwater on a cold winter day. The last one was fairly cool and had cold drinks, but it was just as I was leaving the valley. Once gaining some altitude, I actually felt cold. Hard day of riding to say the least.
My guess would be although the backpack looks insulated, you would probably get more cooling time out of it if the backpack wasn't black and maybe a lighter more reflective color.
It is insulated, though the amount of heat absorbed through the backpack (or carrying case for the Solo) is really small compared to the amount of heat energy the system will absorb from the human body. The circulating water causes convective heating of the water from your body, which is really efficient. Radiative heating, which is what the sunlight does, is much weaker.
Also, the Solo case (and I think the backpack, though I don't have one to verify) has heat-reflective lining to reduce this effect further.
I was wondering about that too. Even if it doesn't really increase efficiency,, white or hi-vis would be nice.
In the late 90's I did one summer training (USAR) in the desert near El Paso, TX. A number of us purchased Camelbacks and we would chill them in a refrigerator overnight. It made a noticeable difference for a short while. Putting ice cubes in the bladder extended the cooling effect. This product looks like the same idea, only done better
That would be awesome for people who are doing roofing! Be cool if they had a hose with a bite valve so you could get a cold drink while riding too. Awesome stuff.
Thanks. I like the functionality, look and flexibility of the backpack. Even for longer rides. Even though it may be somewhat limited, if I'm stopping for a rest break and gas every couple of hours, it's not a big deal buying a bag of ice and reloading the system.
Totally agree! I think the solo is the better option for longer days on the motorcycle.
I made a vest or sandwich board type arrangement of large freezer pads for physical therapy. Three are stacked on thr front of my body, and a strap over each shoulder holds two more stacked on my back. Bought them off Amazon. The vest is in my freezer overnight. I put it on, wear the shell of a winter riding coat over it sealed up tight to keep the cold in, and ride in direct sunlight in humid weather sometimes up to 95f. Highest heat of the day, 2-3pm.The first 20 minutes are cool as can be, thr next 10 ok, the next 10 tolerable. No sweating or discomfort at all. By then I've arrived at work.
I don't know guys... I don't mind the heat. Yes it can be grueling at times. Moving keeps me comfortable and when I have to stop for extended times in the heat I look for shade and wait it out when I can before moving on.
Bikers have managed to deal with heat since day one without a refrigerator strapped on. Suck it up and ride.
try riding midday in Dubai summer, you soon find out your suck it up and ride does not work. at 50C around 120F after an hour you are completely f*@ked
@@gregwilson5234 I'll be sure to avoid Dubai. Why anyone would want to ride mid-day in 150 degree weather is insane. But I salute your dedication to riding. Stay safe.
@Modustollens1stop and smell the roses?? Haha... not what I had in mind. But I do have the time. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
"suck it up" is what all riders have been doing. Now that New products are available riders have options. If comfort isn't important to riders, why are seat upgrades so popular? I mean, suck it up and deal with the pain in your butt.
@@mrq1701 I guess some people are just more 'delicate' than others.
I bought the solo last year. There was an issue with the vest size and design. Stu was awesome at taking care of all my issues. I only got a chance to use it for about 20 minutes since getting it. Worked very well....Thank for the help Stu and MCrider for introducing me to this company. Great product and Great customer service.
Love this. My ex boyfriend and I took a ride out to the top of California. Crecent City up by the Redwoods to ride south down the Pacific Coast HWY to San Diego. We crossed over Nevada to Lake Tahoe early morning the first day. Made it across the desert fine that day. PC HWY was amazing. The last day of the ride was hard to get out with family and friends in San Diego so we ended up heading back to Utah thru Las Vegas. Worst hottest ride ever. 112° August. We stopped umpteen times to run water thru our clothes from the hose at gas stations. Had wet vests. Not enough. Wet bandanas on our face. Going to invest in this. Thank you.
I lived in the Houston area for over 13 years, so I know what a humid 96 feels like. Regrettably, I wasn't riding motorcycles at that time, but if I were to ride there, that looks like a great product. Thanks Kevin
As a pipe line worker i KNOW covered up is cooler and also less likely to suffer from allergies... Now of course FR is just stupid hot. As a motorcycle rider for almost 35 years i am always cooler with vented gear and covered up....
But this vest and cooler sounds great.
Thanks Kevin... As always your videos are informative and fun.
A few questions.... 1. How long have you been involved with msf? 2. Was your dad in the military? 3. Did you have a red VFR?
Oh wow!! I know how hot and humid it is in Fort Worth as I'm down here in Houston. I've got to have one of these, no doubt!!
Make your own. Easy! Pump and quick disconnects can be found on Amazon.
I think this product would be especially good for people who are elderly that can’t take the heat or people with other kinds of issues that make it so they can’t deal with the heat well
I just ordered one! Living in Phoenix AZ this should work nicely.
Respect to ya, brother! No place hotter in this whole country than Phoenix! I'd tell ya to stay cool, but you already are!!👍
What is the brand name?
It's worth it to have brutal summers, to be able to ride year round. Nice tip on the chiller!
Great video covering a product that should make summer riding more enjoyable and maybe, to some extent, safer. My homemade solution for providing personal cooling during hot weather is as follows: 1) I fill my drink backpack full of ice then add water; 2) put the backpack on after my flow thru jacket; and 3) finish by adding a white, loose fitting rain jacket. The rain jacket has Velcro at the cuffs for a secure closure and under arm vents. The front zipper, under arm vents, and cuffs are used to regulate air flow. I keep the rain jacket inflated by air movement which allows the air to circulate around the ice and provide some cooling. I also use a wet handkerchief around my neck for additional cooling.
I doubt that this works as well as the Cycle Chiller but only required that I use existing gear differently.
@Ken W Keller - your DYI sounds like it would work well too.
Lots of alternatives - thanks for sharing!
Stay safe and cool out there.
Here in TN we have been getting a lot of triple digit heat this year. That sounds like a great idea.
96º??? it was 122º here today in AZ. I'm not even stepping outside, let alone going for a ride with anything but a 5 ton AC unit strapped to my handlebars. ;-)
Jay-sus... I lived in Tucson for a year or so back in the 80s. Wow! As they say, "It's a dry heat..." which is true (as long as you don't count the monsoon season). I live in Sacramento, CA now. We get summer temps that are consistently in the 90s, relatively dry, cool nights, and a few days of 100+. And I lived in Virginia for a couple years too. Ugh. That's the worst (IMHO). Gorgeous country, Blue Ridge Parkway riding, lots of history...
I'll take 100+ degrees in a dry area any time over 90 degrees in a humid area.
I’ve been away for a bit and missed your getting rid of the Yamaha ST and now I see you have a GSA. I sold my 2016 Yamaha ST a year ago and this past April bought a 2019 GSA myself. I really like it a lot, I have never owned a BMW before but so far it’s a fun bike to ride
Kev, you’re the best. And you just made a video that is about a topic of great interest to me. I ride with full gear. I’ve been looking for a solution to keep cool and I came across the Cycle Chiller solution last year. I didn’t buy it because, well, I just wasn’t sure it was a robust solution.
One of the most important things that I need in my motorcycling journey is to hear from people like you, people with knowledge and credibility, to help sort through the information out there about technique and gear. I really think you have as important a role in sharing knowledge about road strategies and technique as you do in terms of fostering knowledge about gear.
In that respect, you did a fantastic job of helping me to see the value of this cooling approach. Thank you.
I’m conflicted about it though.
It looks like the best approach out there, and I’ve tried some of the other methods. I think the company that makes this deserves thanks, and in the very near future they may see some of my disposable income.
The one concern is that backpack. Freeze a big block of ice and put it on your back and what you have is, for all intents, a rock on your back. In a high side, that block of ice will get mashed into your spine. It’s a thing with me. I never ride with a backpack, much less a backpack filled with anything I wouldn’t want to land on in a get off.
But there’s a solution. That backpack should include internal armor, and I would gladly pay for that armor. With that internal armor, the backpack as a system would actually up-armor a rider and provide cooling.
There was a time that having air conditioning in a car was a luxury option. 60 years ago. Now, motorcycles are only catching up. Thanks again to the founder of this company.
What would be even neater is if the backpack or the cooler version had integrated thermoelectric coolers to extend the time range for cooling. A hot day is 8 hours or less. A TEC connected to the standard battery tender pigtail (or an integral or detachable battery) could greatly extend the life of the ice/water during the day.
It’s amazing to me that motorcycle OEMs don’t get the need for this technology. We’re literally living in the motorcycling days equivalent to no AC in a car as “normal.” A motorcycle should have this kind of cooling solution built into the seat or elsewhere on structure. Same thing applies to the ubiquitous problem of buffeting. All bikes should have windscreens that are adjustable. There should be aftermarket adaptable windscreens.
Don't get me started.
As usual, it’s left to the innovators like the man who designed this solution. I’m leaning toward the cooler solution because the safety concern, but either one seems like a vast, vast improvement over everything else out there. Thanks for yet another helpful video. I’ll see YOU on the road. 😊
Either option can be strapped to the seat but if you are always going to strap it to the seat you might as well get the cooler. You will get more cooling time going that route. You might need to communicate with Stu, Cycle Chiller owner and tell him if you go backpack strapped to the seat so he can extend the hose to fit that option.
Good idea.
Back in the 80's I went from Phoenix to LA and back on Memorial weekend. Hot was no name for it.
I wore a thick sweatshirt and stopped to soak it with water every hour or so. As soon as it started drying out, I was already looking for the next rest stop for a "refill".
It's 99 degrees here (37 Celcius) and in an hour I will be picking up my very new bike. I will probably be thinking of this video then ...
Very interesting! Gonna have to research this and get one. I'm a long distance rider....thanks for the info!!♡♡
Nice Kevin I will have to look into getting one. Riding the Goldwing in the Louisiana Summer is brutal. I enjoy all of your videos. I have encouraged my son to watch your videos for his Safety when riding alone.
no ac in the gold wing yet, yongue in cheek. on a side note there us a hack where you can put ice trays in your vents...more comical relief here i think
Kevin,
Thank you for showing this! I was riding the other day and the weather app said “feels like 106”. I swear I was a puddle of sweat and thought I was going to die! I have a problem since chemo and radiation that I pass out if I get to hot. I was definitely too hot that day but at 80 it was bearable. I was going to go get an old surplus canteen and wear it like the Gunny’s at MCRD PI do. I believe this would be better! I will definitely check them out, hopefully they aren’t too expensive. Thank you for the video!
Last year on a 5000 mile trip out west I used a Hydration backpack that I filled with ice as full as I could get it than some water. I would have cold water to drink all day long and it also helped keep me cooler because of the coolness on my back even through my TourMaster 5 jacket.
Outstanding product! And don't forget, we need to hydrate atleast once every 30 minutes in that heat.👍🇺🇸
get the KOOLGEL ice extender, it turns the ice to gel, get the powder form make your own ice blocks, also get the timer 1 minute on 1 minute off it will extend your ice....they have a new one out uses no ice just water
Very nice products! I am new to motorcycles, but have been flying airplanes from single-engine light aircraft to medium size and very high performance multi-engine jets for 35 years and I am very familiar with personal cooling and heating systems. Being a 'hothead' my problem is with helmets and less with body on both aircraft and now motorcycles, I find that most bothersome! Another method of less bulky cooling is through 'Peltier, or thermoelectric' devices (yes, I am an engineer) -- They could be designed into a helmet without compromising the structural integrity of the helmet as they can be made thin, shaped and placed in appropriate locations, no ice, no water, just a battery pack or possibly the ship's battery (they are electricity hungry)..... If I wasn't backing down from 40 years running a company, I would design you an ice-less, water-less, overall cooling pack including the helmet!! BTW -- If you reverse the current the system becomes a heater! Thanks for all that you do for us!
It's a good idea for some cases. Peltier plates work well in direct-contact situations where you don't necessarily have the wind directly hitting you while riding. They're a lot less useful when wind convection adds heat to the system at a faster rate than the thermoelectric cooling can take it out.
I'd love to see that kind of thing added to a motorcycle helmet to keep my forehead cooler, but it's unfortunately not efficient enough to build into a torso or body unit that is being constantly battered by hot wind.
Perfect for here in Arizona!
I was on a group ride last weekend and when we stopped to eat lunch all of us were talking about these cooling vests. LOL! Thanks for the information!
@RevJRJJr - Perfect timing!
That is awesome!
I've found I'm way cooler and comfortable covered up i.e. wearing my vented leather jacket. When I wear a vest and have my arms exposed to the sun I get way hotter and sweat way more. That being said for any parking lot work or lots of stop and go traffic, that cooler gear sure would be nice.
I wear a mesh jacket and I stay really cool during the ride no matter how hot it gets. When I wear just my vest I am cooking and I get dehydrated. My friends say I make them hot looking at me. Yet when we stop and take the jacket off I am not sunburned or dehydrated or sweating like they are. If I do sweat the jacket circulates the air around me and I am comfortable. The only time I sweat is when I am stopped when there is no wind moving. I also my daughters cooling neck cooler she uses in softball. You soak it for an hour or so and then tie it to the back your neck. It keeps the back of your neck cool for hours. I agree riding in a parking lot for hours I would probably be sweating, the cooling backpack would be a nice addition.
I rode to Anza-Borrego desert (for the small town of Borrego Springs) a couple of Sundays ago when it was 109 F. OMG! While riding, opening your visor up feels like when you open the oven up in a kitchen.
Anyhow, before my ride home, I soaked my spandex, tight-fitting top (under my mesh jacket), and it felt like air-conditioning. It worked for only about 25 minutes, but that was enough to get out of the desert and back to the mountains (Julian, CA). It felt really strange actually, the heat-cold combination while riding. Felt "spicy" temperature wise; really strange sensation. xD Haha!
Just checked. It's going to be 112 F in Anza-Borrego today. Yikes!
You feel cooler for a reason: being covered up, the wind is not peeling away your perspiration too fast. Evaporative cooling is very powerful, but wind directly on skin can pull the perspiration away before it has a chance to use your body heat to evaporate. Kevin did a previous video including this point: ruclips.net/video/D5RAbEtl7g0/видео.html
Cooling vest underneath mesh jacket. Felt like I had an ice-pack wrapped around me for an hour in 95 degree heat.
I am Textile jacket all year round, just take the inner liner out in summer... been -3ºc to 45ºc.
It is dehydration that is the key... and you lose more fluid with sun-exposed then covered. If you feel thirsty it is already too late.
Hey, MC I just graduated from riding academy!! I have a beautiful Suzuki Boulevard 820cc.
Awsome , have fun.
Been ur subscriber for over a year now, though there are many useful videos but IMPO this channel is for premium bikes mostly. Or there are no lower cc bike enthusiasts where you live. Cant really connect to the contents. Neither you address any such queries in comments.
Sorry if it sounds a little blunt but that's what I felt. 🙏🏻
Oh man, that is something I've needed forever. Thanks for the info. It's a fairly simple idea but a great implementation of it there.
I feel like I need this for the Vegas summer
The sacrifices you have to make. From Phoenix, AZ. Thanks.
A wearable swamp cooler... I’m in! There are too many days that keep me from riding in Tennessee because of the heat. I miss the cool Colorado temps (and the weed). Most days I just embrace the suck, but I could see how this product would be an nice addition. One can add layers in cold temps, but high temps/humidity/dew points?!?! I don’t want to give up protection for comfort.
I see a lot of rider from Texas and Arizona commenting on this. I live near Boston, MA and we have plenty of 90° plus days where it's too hot to ride. I can ride all day on the back-pack. I open and close the circulator as needed. That said, I probably use this more around the yard than on my bike!
Yeah, I have used mine mowing the grass. :)
CompCooler Portable Chiller Cooling System DC-24 Volt: $1,899. Doesn't need ice.
Here in the tundra (MN), we don’t have Texas heat or too much Houston humidity. It looks like a great setup!
Shout out from oklahoma i hear ya on that heat. Think right now at noon feels like 106 do to the humidity. And my town has two tracks that always seem to have a train going slower than turtle sex. Gonna try this product out . your videos are awesome keep it up!
Interesting product. I looked at their website, and the pricing seems reasonable.
Im headed to California in a couple of weeks 450 miles 200 of that thrwough the Mojave dessert. So I ordered a cooling vest last week wish I'd have seen this prior to my order.
Wish I heard about this earlier. My wife and two daughters are heading for Sturgis in a few days and we will be traveling through the desert. We’re planning to travel in the cool of the morning and be ready to stop in the afternoon when it starts heating up. But your plans don’t always fall into place especially when you’re with three women. 🤣🤣🤣
My mate has one of those crash inflating jackets.... When you were a kid watching cowboy shows and movies, do you remember any of them wearing backpacks, ever because that's where the body tries to lose the most heat, cover it up,no good ! They had a full canteen, I've done Spain which gets warm, I have a jacket with zip vents, 400 miles from home or a freezer
Well why didn't I have one of these 8 or so years ago when I was working in Dallas and it was over 100 for 60 days straight. My solution was to leave about 6:30 in the morning from my uncle's house where I was storing my bike and travel until about noon or 1:00, but jeez it was hot. These would have made things much cooler. Thanks for the heads up Kevin and keep the good stuff coming.
Needed that last year on trip from MN to Texas and around Texas. Will look it up if price point is good will buy.
So dumb that they make this in black... doesn't anyone realize that light colors reflect heat energy? Wrapping a block of ice, that you want to stay frozen as long as possible, in black material just doesn't make sense. But everybody knows that motorcyclists want everything in black (except me... I wear a white jacket and helmet during the summer). I guess looking cool is more important than actually being cool.
The case/pack is insulated, though the amount of heat absorbed through the backpack (or carrying case for the Solo) is really small compared to the amount of heat energy the system will absorb from the human body. The circulating water causes convective heating of the water from your body, which is really efficient. Radiative heating, which is what the sunlight does, is much weaker.
Also, the Solo case (and I think the backpack, though I don't have one to verify) has heat-reflective lining to reduce this effect further.
@@ToddVierling you're correct that the chilled water is going to be warmed by body heat, possibly moreso than by the sun's energy. But none the less, I'm guessing that block of ice fits pretty snugly in that backpack. The best insulation is created by space to trap warmth from getting in or out (as need be)... A flimsy layer of reflective film (which is what most Camelback type water systems use) doesn't do much when there is a direct contact with the heat source (black fabric). I stick by my original premise... If the goal is to keep the contents cold for as long as possible, why work against that goal by making it black? Personally I see that as being a design flaw, but that's just my opinion.
@@bruceh4226 - I hear ya Bruce. The surprising thing is most(not all!) motorcycle riders will only buy black. You are accurate in the coolness of lighter colors. The black vest is intended to be worn UNDER a jacket so not exposed to sun. The heat generated by the body has far greater melting impact than the impact of the sun's rays. Again, you are very accurate, but the decision is driven by what riders will buy. Sometimes the technically best answer is not what will sell.
@@cyclechillers1857 I kinda figured that is what drove your decision. I hope if the product is successful that perhaps other colors might be available in the future... Hi-viz yellow, blaze orange, white? There are a few of us out here that are more concerned about our safety and the functionality of our gear, than we are about fitting in with "biker chic".
@@bruceh4226 We will Bruce - business has to pay bills first on the biggest demand and additional safety colors are strongly needed. I am in that camp. Thanks!
They should extend the vest to include a neck wrap of some sort. With a large amount of blood flow to the brain thru the neck, the cooling of this area would be beneficial.
It seems like it's the motorcycle version of the astronaut space spacesuit conditioning and heating system. the downfall of those quick disconnects are going to be those 15-cent black o rings. That style of connector is used in many lawn and garden hose and watering tools. Also in pressure washer high pressure hoses. They always age first, crack and cause leaks.
it's been my experience that trying to find replacement o-rings for any of these products has been for naught
2bikemike they seem to be standard sized. I know from my days of SCUBA that you should always keep some O-rings in your Save-a-dive kit. Like diving, you don’t want an inexpensive ring to cancel a day of fun.
When it hits 80 I'm in Shorts and usually no shirt ..
I know I'll get crap for it but that's how I ride..and have crashed once in shorts...so i take real care of how i ride and my surroundings.
But when it hits 100° i can't stand to be in clothes...
I rode today in Northern California, no shirt in my shorts and work boots.
98 degrees...100 when I got back home ..
Too hot to wear clothes
Here in the UK we dont have heat problems. Got any features on heated grips, heated, seats, heated gloves, helmets, socks, boots, pegs etc ; -)
Kevin, you started the video saying you would discuss last weeks errors in your video, then no discussion? Yep, I caught the mistakes last week, but someone else had already posted that you did. It is so easy to get terms reversed when talking like you do to the camera, so don't sweat it. I think all who caught it understood what you really meant. Now riders, get out there and practice it until you are comfortable with it, you won't regret it if you ever need it. I started using trail braking in the mid-70's although it was called another term I no longer remember. I had several instances where I ended up needing it and it was automatic for me.
You also just gave me a racecar life hack! the separate tank version would work well for auto racing, and looking at the price, the whole system complete is about the price for just a shirt from CoolShirt. Thanks Kevin!
Make sure that the unit is well secured and the track allows it, of course (different track day hosts and organizations have different rules). The unit can run directly off of 12VDC so it can be powered directly from the car if desired.
@@ToddVierling Saw your other post about getting to beta with this cool product. Question, can it handle saline water, or do I have to stick with regular water? I'd like to try utilizing supercooling effect so the circulating water can be below freezing without icing; with the plan of rinsing and flushing the system with normal water once home, of course.
Stu replied in another subthread about similar questions (including glycol). The water pump uses a fairly thin feed hose and metal-to-plastic connections, so I'd say saline is a bad idea. It's designed for fresh water only, and I'd be concerned about crystal build-up and corrosion.
I've been using the evaporative cooling vest here in AZ, but it's useless unless you're moving. I just limit my time on the bike when it's 117 like it was yesterday. If this works like you say it does, I could get out more.
It has worked very well for me.
Scottsdale here and I haven't taken a ride in 3 weeks. My ATGATT routine takes me about 15 mins. I'm guessing this will add another 10 mins or so. May be worth it to try with a 30 day no risk return policy.
Cycle Chiller
Qu'est-ce que c'est
Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-far better!
+100 points for Talking Heads reference
Outstanding! 100 points from me too.
That is so cool, and a game changer!!! 😎
Everything they have is out of stock! Just my luck I could really use this...... sad.Thanks fot the video.
Thank you again Kevin for another great video!!
Thanks Kevin. Having cool water running around me sounds fantastic. A question: What do you think about the safety aspects about having a lump of rather solid ice (and maybe a battery and/or a pump) in the middle of your back if you have an accident when the ice has not yet melted much? I tend to try to not have solid objects in my pockets while riding for that reason. Any concerns about that? Thanks for the video.
Just rode from NM 95, though AZ 120 back to LA 92 and this would have came in handy. A day late and a dollar short, story of my life
Ordering one up now!! Did they give you a coupon code for your peeps who order?
So its good for 96 degrees and 2 hours? Information is always key.
I didn't find a link to this product, let me double back and get the name so I can go find that lol, thanks
I think this item is made by Comp Coolers. They make a univest version too.
Only 96?
Sounds nice and cool.
96F in DFW humidity though, that can give you a heat index well over 120F on muggy days :)
Just what the Doctor ordered!
It does sound good for Summer riding. 96 in the desert is not bad. But 111 is. I rode last week and definitely felt the heat. I wonder about your head/helmet. That's the other place I feel the heat. I do wear a balaclava to help wick away the moisture and keep my helmet from getting nasty. I figure if it's good enough for F1 drivers it's good for me too. I wonder why more riders and Nascar drivers don't use them. Makes getting the helmet on and off easier too. Anyway, the backpack seems like the way to go. Thanks
Pretty cool, No pun intended!
I find I stay the coolest when lawn mowing by watching my landscapers from my air conditioned house.
Good for hiking too I bet. 120F yesterday. AZ!
I see the name CompCooler on many of the product pieces and went to their website. Are they the manufacturer and CycleChiller is the North American distributor? The specs look the same for both and it is available online from Amazon and other online retailers.
Paul Traiforos I would have liked an answer to your question.
I don’t know the answer for that one.
I rode for 2+ hours the other day with no breaks in 90+ degree weather. Didnt realize how dehydrated I was until I actually got off and tried to walk. I felt really dizzy and light headed and became exhausted and had to sit down for a while. I'm definitely picking up one of these if they're as effective as you say.
This would have helped with that greatly.
I suffer from living in a area that is usually 20 degrees cooler than the surrounding areas and sometimes it's 55 degrees where I live and 95 or more where I might have to go that day . Looks like I might be a new customer for this item .
Does it come with a drinking hose? If not, any suggestions on what to replace my Camelbak with? I'd like this cooling vest, but can't think of what to do for easy hydration.
I have an ice filled camelback in my saddlebag. Purchased a long sipper tube and have it attached to the seat rail. I reach down and sip while I'm riding. It's not enough to drink at stops only, I live near Vegas where it's frequently over 110 and have had heat stroke before, so I'm careful and I wear an evaporative vest at the same time. After seeing this, I am leaning toward the cooler version as I have a place to strap it. I had considered the backpack version, but our club may ride 5 hours in a day and I want that longer cooling time. Also, I have an Ultimate Solo Seat with a backrest and I'm only 4'11".. it would probably be really uncomfortable trying to ride with a backpack of any kind. Thanks Kevin for showing this.. I can't wait to order one!
I rode in 100 degree Texas heat with a bag of ice on my lap one day. I was wet at the end of my 4 hour day, but stayed cool. Being wet isn't great, but I'm not sure I want 3 liters of weight on my shoulders either. I wonder if there isn't a way to just put ice in a diy over the shoulder chest and back pack so that you can refresh it when you stop for gas. A baggie of ice against your chest and upper back will do the trick for most rides.
I give it a big, "!Meh". When commuting daily and running errands on a bike, gearing up each time, several times per day, is tedious enough already: donning the jacket with its various snaps, Velcro closures and zippers, ear plugs, helmet, glasses, gloves. And that's after putting on the armored jeans in the morning and wearing them all day. Adding a backback and some plumbing connections , and maintaining the ice supply, while no doubt it would provide good cooling, would, if I felt it absolutely necessary, probably have me leaving the bike at home and taking a car with air conditioning instead. Expediency and convenience have their values too. This space suit suit pack is a form of "jumping the shark" for me. At some point the whole riding process becomes too complex and tedious to be enjoyable anymore. As it is, the most I'll do for additional cooling is douse myself with a bit of water from one of the bottles I keep in my saddle bags. Otherwise I'll live with a bit of heat.
"Game Changing"? Meh.
Sounds great
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This is why I avoid black gear. It is counter intuitive for them to put the cooler part in a black case also. It makes a significant difference. Black is good for winter gear, but not summer, not even in Alaska. Nothing is more LOW-Vis than black at night also.
I just took a pair of slide pants to a tailor this morning, they are off white but the Cordura net part of them is black. They are cheepos but I won't even be able to wear them from June through mid-Sept in N. Nevada. No need for expensive closet trophy's. I'm retired so I can pick when and where I ride based on temperature, wind and traffic.
The cool vest is a great idea, but not not sure they have circled the bases yet. They stop working on occasion for NASCAR drivers too. They use a system that blows cool air in your helmet and the vest at times. Once you get heat exhaustion, it's easier to get it again. The heat effects you even more than before. That sucks.
The only problem I have is in the desert the helmet does get hot, very hot even wearing this it becomes a problem when your head is boiling up
Black is a popular color but I wonder if the backpack would be white how much longer would it keep on performing ?
When you say, stayed cool...how cool do you mean? Still sweat a little?
This looks amazing!!
We had a hot summer this year here in South Wales UK..
I think it was a Tuesday.
I believe it used to be called Veskimo, around 2008
Save your $$ Buy a newer camel back that open with a plastic slider on top. Fill it with couple soft freezer packs half/ way and water. A lot smaller and less weight. You can find them on eBay or military surplus sites
Not the same thing
@@MCrider I know it's not. But it will do 3 things. Keep you cool, hydrate you in the heat and a lot lighter for long trips.
That unit that you strap on the bike if you add dry ice to it may last most of the day if not all day
Love you videos sir ! Question tho , would this work with a race suit ?
Excellent product. I will definitely will purchase one. Why would anybody give a 👎 on this excellent product that allows us to ride in the heat except maybe the morons who like to to wear shorts and sandals when they ride.