Cooling Vest Showdown! Best and Worst
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2020
- Comparing an evaporative vest, ice vests, an ice-water circulation vest, and an air vest. My insights into the challenges of vest based cooling.
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#3 Old-school blue vest is no longer available
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You either put the fans backwards in the jacket, or the polarity is reversed, I can see how they're sucking air out of the jacket and they're not supposed to do that, but the opposite: Blow outside air into the jacket and your own perspiration will do the cooling.
I agree that looked like it was sucking. lol
By far the best and most honest product review channel ever, thank you! 🎉
thanks for checking it out!
I am considering one for a brutal summer commute in full riding gear on my motorcycle. This was VERY helpful. Wonderful homestead you have there.
Sounds like a hot ride ... but nice to be able to do it on the moto! Good luck out there man ... precool and it'll be all the better
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with this richness of detail. Now I think I understand much better what I need
Glad it was helpful! Good luck out there
Hey you’re definitely one of the funniest guys I’ve ever stumbled upon on RUclips! I’ve come to realize that I have a bit of heat intolerance, and started with traditional ice-packs, and now learning that theres so many options out there for cooling out and about, and found your video extremely helpful to figure things out. Thanks again, and hopefully I can help you get your $0.025 cents haha.
Good hearing from ya! Most of all I do pre-cooling (cold water, AC, cold showers) and it postpones the melt down
I also do not tolerate heat well and the most effective method I have found and is to swallow α bunch of ice. The phase change from solid to liquid absorbs α huge amount of heat from your body.
@@kellymoses8566 Thanks for mentioning, I’m definitely going to try that!
Thank you so much. Your video was very helpful in finding a vest for someone with multiple sclerosis
Be well and hang in there
I'm sitting in my air conditioned house in Texas watching you in Michigan (?) trying to deal with the heat. Makes me smile. As long as you could keep wetting it, I bet that evaporative vest would work well in Arizona or New Mexico where the humidity is almost always low. Thanks for the off-beat, informative and very entertaining video, my friend.
Staying cool in Texas, that's excellent! Yeah it's been pretty humid up here in Illinois, but mornings and evenings are pretty nice. Take it easy!
Ahh. Illinois! 👍
As someone in FL I've had just as bad heat intolerance in upstate NY (basically Canada) as I have here. When your body can't handle heat it can't handle heat.
@@NoThankUBeQuiet So true
when i worked as a farm hand in the summer heat i would wear a long sleeve shirt and soak it in water when i could, and that helped when the air was blowing back off the tractor engine
Sounds like a good method! that water does wonders to cool you when evaporating
Thank you so much Spencer! I am buying the Hyperkewl evaporative vest in light of your review!
Most excellent! Stay cool
Great review, thank you for the well articulated insights
thanks for checking it out
What a great review man !!! Thanks 👍🏼
You bet!
I'm a lawnscraper in Dayton so I know heat and humidity. What I have found works best for me is a good wicking polyester shirt a wet bandana and a well ventilated bush hat. I recently started using the arm wraps that works well to.
Great ideas -- I agree all the way. Good shirts, a hat to keep the sun off, and that jug of ice water get me through the day. Great hearing from ya, man, and stay cool out there!
so you scrap lawns, what's that like just digging up bad grass all day taking it to the vegetation dump. Just never heard of a lawn scraper before
Ty, excellent and helpful review.
Thanks for checking it out!
Thank you, great reviews
Thanks for the helpful video. Ever thought about putting together a hybrid by taking a fishing vest and putting some ice packs in the front and one of those cooling towels in the back zipper?
Sounds like a good idea -- just a bit of ice in the right places would be better than being encased in it. I like the way you think!
Great video and picked up some useful information. We have sold cooling systems for 15 plus years and the latest ones are for all types of work by using different hip belts with water cooling and lithium batteries. Vest is made of an open mesh to allow the body to breath and adjustable velcro straps. Clients are firefighters and high heat manufacturing plants. Please stay healthy.
Good deal! Sounds like you have some good stuff
@@metaspencer With the work you do your hands and upper body need to be free so put your pump in a plastic bag with a little water in a tool belt bag and connect to a piped vest. We use them for warehouse staff in summer, carpenters, fishermen welders etc. I have English leaflets with photos which would give you a good idea on design.
@@waynemillis4418 Yeah, those pump-based cooling systems look pretty good. That's the one style of vest I haven't tried.
I'd love to be able to buy your products then, but it must be allot of money.
I work in bv a high heat manufacturing environment could you provide me a link to one of the products you reccomend
A wet buff and skull cap are simple and keeps me cool in the desert heat while mountain biking. I have an extra water bottle just for keeping those items wet.
Sounds like a good system ... with that air flow on the bike that sounds perfect.
I’ve got one like the first one you showed and I love it for riding bicycles or dirtbike‘s or anything in a dry climate. I do prefer to wear it over a shirt though or a jersey.
Sounds like a good setup -- gotta beat that heat!
Loved the video. I sent my GlacierTek back. I quickly felt warmer with the darn thing on, and that was just sitting before doing any work. Was thinking of the INUTEQ-PAC PCM COOLOVER 15C. It’s basically a vest made from ice packs, with small straps. Until you pointed out at the end that the ice packs melt pretty quickly from the outside in.
Good hearing from ya -- those vests can definitely heat you up. I think the companies just like selling them haha
great video honest straight forward!
thanks for checking it out ... stay cool!
I live in the desert of California and SHEEEESH it can get very hot here! Up to 120 or more! This is a very informative video!
Sounds super toasty! Stay cool
This was very cool!! The insulation between ice and the body is an adjustment. With no insulation we would feel too cold and the energy would be transfered too fast. The problem is that you can't adjust this insulation and as you say, ice generally don't last one hour. I also like more the evaporative cooling vest. Maybe some day I will try a vest with a circulating liquid.
Great video. I've been trying to come up with a solution for the hot days and your video has a lot of good information from someone in the field. In my case I don't really do manual labor but business-casual dress codes means I am wearing long pants and long shirts. Sweating would cool me off, but you don't want to be sweating in business casual! So I think some kind of water circulation pack is the best alternative.
Sounds like a good option for you. Good thinking!
Or just get a job where you don't have to illogically wear a coat during summer while trying to convey an image of intelligence and competence... 😮
I had to watch your story when I saw that you went 17 yrs before getting an accurate diagnosis because when it was first brought up by my PCP "maybe it's MS" I started thinking back to when I first experienced certain symptoms which have worsened over time, and thought, "No, that started in 2006 and it's 2024 now." As I see more videos on MS stories I realize that it is surely a posibility that it started that long ago and that's why I'm experienced worsening of the symptoms now that I'm 43. So, Thank you for sharing. I, too, wondered about the therapeutic value of the drugs available or lack thereof. I'm wondering if, since it's been awhile since you made that video, you've started any medications or treatments of any kind and whether anything has or has not helped you?
No drugs for me just and anti-inflammatory diet and vitamin D -- doing great. I post updates over on my other channel: www.youtube.com/@SpencersMSStory ... be well!
Excellent information. Thanks.
Stay cool!
Im in Havasu AZ and the temps have been around 115 lately. I work outdoors and it gets soo hot. I like the idea of the cooling vest. Is there one that has a water bladder that will rewet the vest while you are wearing it? It would be nice to not have to stop, go and rewet and put back on again and again. Thanks for the info
I've never seen one that rewets the vest ... could be cool. Instead there are just vests that circulate cool water. Hang in! Sounds hot as heck out there
Nice comparison!
It's just so, so cooooool :)
Super helpful! Thanks
Good to hear!
Thank you so much for this video.
Absolutely. Thanks or stopping by the channel
I kind of discovered the idea of evaporative cooling on my own. Cooling towels are nice. But, personally to me it seems like just soaking a t-shirt underneath a thin long-sleave shirt to keep the sun off works well. Although, I expect an actual evaporative shirt would last longer. Part of it might be that I am in a drier climate. (at least during the summer.) The hard limit for evaportaion is humidity.
I totally can see the issues with the ice ones though.
Excellent video. I can't be out in any heat anymore cause i passed out and woke up to emt's a few years ago. At that time i bought a technique tech kewl ice vest with extra ice. I still wear it almost everyday but that weird white chemical fake ice doesn't seem to work quite correctly anymore. I just purchased a water circulating vest but the little backpack is built inside the backside. After i use it for a bit I'll do a review.
Sorry to hear about the heat intolerance but it sounds like you're taking care of it! The recirculating vest, when working, is very nice and cool :)
Good honest review many thanks for that - no marketing bullsh*t
Big thanks
Qore Performance Ice Plate is the best. A little pricey, but really nice and they provide hydration.
I'll have to check it out. Sometimes shelling out the $$$ is worth it
I wear a hazmat suit all day in a factory that sits around 43c in the summer. It's gotten unbearable, and I'll find myself fainting and getting covered in rashes. So glad to see this content! Im going to cave and buy one that'll last at least half of the day.
Hang in there! That sounds like a tough job!
@@metaspencer It really is, but the guys I work with are great, and I really enjoy the physical workout the job gives me! Just can't handle the heat anymore 🤣
This was interesting. I constantly am looking at cooling vest to wear in surgery. The surgeons have one with a leash that runs icy water but it is bulky and attached to a giant box on the ground. The one with the pack is the most similar but i always wondered if the icepack one would be better. Now i know 😏
Stay cool when you're doing that work, man! Good to hear
Great video! Question - I am a tennis nut and on really hot days when I play for a long time I can suffer from being overheated and have to stop. Do you think any of the vests would work while playing tennis? I was thinking the "Bro" might be a possibility.
I'd try an evaporative vest first and see how it goes ... I have good luck with them over a limited amount of time. In your sport you can resoak in a bucket pretty easily
Great video, thanks!
Stay cool out there!
the most effective method I have found and is to swallow α bunch of ice. The phase change from solid to liquid absorbs α huge amount of heat from your body.
Wow, ice swallowing! I swear by ice water but haven't gone that far. Great idea. I completely agree that cool liquid inside the body is the key
I mean this as a high compliment there are a lot of irritating videos reviews really way too much but anyway your video was informative and relaxing to watch thank you for posting.
Thanks for checking it out! Stay cool this summer
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. can you put the name or the link (old linked is broken) for the first power shirt (13:11). thanks
That ice vest may be obsolete now … new ones are lighter fabric
The 2nd to last one would be great for people like me. I'm a C6-7 quadriplegic, paralyzed from the chest down & I don't sweat at all.
Oh yeah with no sweat action that just might work! Also shade and cold water, which I rely on more and more
So your favorite is the compcooler? What would you recommend me if I want to be the coldest for the longest amt of time? I don’t mind any cons or setbacks. I’m extremely heat intolerant. It makes me sick. Ty!!
Pump vests with ice water + pre cooling
Wonderful video, ty.
Thanks for checking it out
Can you provide name of cooling vest with water pump or where to buy. Thank you and your love your review of these products
#1 Hyperkewl evaporative vest: amzn.to/2OWeUHE
#2 Thermapparel ice vest, wear under clothes: amzn.to/2ZXB8z9
#3 Old-school blue vest is no longer available
#4 GlacierTek Ice Vest: amzn.to/2D6cbZc
#5 Circulating Ice Water Vest: amzn.to/32Oyqhn
#6 Bonus ... The Air Jacket: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjrlK...
Thank you!!!!!
Great info!
stay cool out there!
i live in japan, where you have a crazy hot summer with like 90% humidity, ice pack vest are useless because of the humidity they melt in 40 mins, we use the air ventilated jacket, keeps you dry from over sweating and keeps your head with enough oxigen so you dont get heatstrokes
by the way, the air jacket ones in japan are really high tech with 24v battery powering 90l of air, pretty cool
Sounds good buddy
@@ricardo-hd9jgwhere can I order one?
Is an awesome video! I'd really like you to make a similar video on the newer wearable ac units for around your neck? And perhaps the wearable fans as well. I nd a personal ac unit in my life! But reviews are mixed and maybe biased! They are around $70 I wanna get the one that works the best!
I've used a few neck wraps and like how they feel, at least for a while, but I'm not so sure that they offer any real cooling. So a comparison would be great ... I'll have to look to see which ones people are using these days. Thanks for the ideas
@@metaspencer thank you I'm subscribed now!! The blaux is one of them then there's a bunch of copies from lots of other companies! They are about !70 - $130 so I don't want to get one if it doesn't work. And then they have the fans which kinda look ridiculous but who knows! Thanks for answering me back! I love your videos!!
Can you get frostbite from the ice-vests, or do they warm up too quickly? The NMSS sent me one after diagnosis (along with other free items to serve as a reminder that life will never be the same 😃) and I've always been hesitant to wear it. I never really needed to because I luckily always had the option to avoid excessive heat. But now that I spend a bit more time outdoors, I have thought about wearing it.
I've wondered that myself and try not to put them next to my skin. I guess it's possible and you're always recommended not to use an ice pack for more than 20 minutes, but I've worn many ice vests longer than that until they melt out. I also got a free vest from the MSAA here in the US. That was such a cool program! I love that some groups give things to people who need them. Anyway, be well!
NO
I wear my AlphaCool Ice Vest over a T shirt. It does not cause frostbite and the cooling effect lasts 1 to 1.5 hours. I swap ice packs at that point and keep going.
Sounds good
Further evaluation of AlphaCool Ice Vest:
1. Dropped a cold gel pack while trying to place it in the vest pocket, and it ruptured along a seam for about 1 inch & spewed some gel on the floor. (Haven't received a reply back yet on whether I can fix that or not - maybe some sort of glue?)
2. I am doubtful that a gel pack that can't survive a 3ft drop onto the floor could survive me laying on my back or stomach with the vest on. (That means that the vest is limited to a range of tasks that don't put pressure on the vest's gel packs.)
3. The vest gives me enough of range of motion to be useful gardening, working with most tools, and standing/sitting/squatting repeatedly. So, I will continue using it and testing it under various situations.
4. As you stated in your video, we have a natural biological function (sweating) that will cool us off IF there is good airflow over our body and we can work in the shade instead of direct sunlight. (When I really need to cool off, I come inside and sit by an electric fan for a few minutes - very, very effective.)
So, what would help the most is a "follow me" shadebot with an electric fan that would keep me in the shade as I worked, as well as blow air over my body fairly continuously. Perhaps this shadebot robot could also carry my tools, dispense a cold drink on command, and monitor my vitals so that I don't overdo it. (If we can have self-propelled follow me luggage then we should be able to have a self-propelled follow me shade robot. Anybody interested in developing a prototype?)
@metaspencer I am searching for something to help me, I had a heatstroke a few years ago and my life ha never been the same, I really need something to help me keep cool. it was 90 degrees, heat Index on Valentine's day. Thank you for doing this review... Very Helpful and informative... 👍
Good luck out there! The best things I've found are pre-cooling, staying out of the sun as much as possible, and drinking ice water when out there. Hang in!
@@metaspencer Thank You, I am preparing for Florida's Summer, and will be getting one of these... Stay Safe 🤗👍
For your silver vest (the one you like the most) would you recommend ordering a size smaller than normal? That way it is more tight across the torso?
you might want to try that ... but I'm pretty happy with the medium and still use is a lot
@@metaspencer Well, if medium is your normal size and you are happy with it, then I would much rather stay with my normal size too. I don't want to go down a size unless it really helps with the cooling. Thanks for the reply, I'll definitely order one tonight
PLease tell us where you bought them and how much? especially the third one? thanks.
Links in the description.. I hope that helps!!
Are all of these vests only suitable for draw heat whether? Anything good for humid weather?
For humid weather the ice vests are okay and the circulation pump vests are pretty good.
Pretty funky!
haha .. for sure
Hahah the last cooling jacket IS supposed to inflate as it blows air in. I think you might have the fans inside out.... I modeled for Fooxmet and tried it out, and was surprised it actually felt really good (looked a little funny, but felt good). And yes, it inflated the jacket. I can't compare it to other vests since I've never tried any before then - and I didn't get to keep the fooxmet jacket and try it more often - but from the short time I did use it, I actually liked it and kinda wished I could have kept the jacket instead of the money for the shoot lol.
I think you're right: fans were inside out in my case as the vest came with little or no instructions. Suction jacket! haha
@@metaspencer So after putting the fans on correctly, could you imagine working in that jacket? Is it better than the ice/water ones? Based on your natural air-cooling explanation I imagine it could be the best one no? :) Thanks.
@@kukuricaman If the fabric was lighter I could imagine it working as a jacket worn when not moving/working, but with thick fabric and the cumbersomeness of it I can't imagine using that jacket. Too odd
are you able to wash the 5th jacket? or does the electronics not allow you?
You can pull the pump and wires out of it ... there are several models like that one and the ones I've seen are all washable
You omitted the name and link of what appears to be the best one, silver vest w circulating pump. What is the name of that one please?
I don't think they're selling them anymore. This one is similar amzn.to/3yMd8zC
super helpful!!! ive thought about getting each one of these, except for the fan jacket. i think i have an idea for an even more modern cooling system. have you seen vortex coolers? well i want to hook one of those to a paint ball tank with a regulator. then attach the regulated air to the vortex cooler. then the light weight perforated vest. and boom. portable light weight torso cooling. check it out my brother. you helped me by doing all your consumer research. now i hope that i was able to help you. the only thing i have left to get is the vortex cooler. ill let ya know if it works. hopefully you msake a video of a vortex cooling vest with a portable air source. thanks again. im glad i didnt spend all the money i almost did. to get unsatisfactory results.
sounds like some interesting ideas! good luck with it
I;ve been designing my own for quite a while but it is questionable that I can do better or cheaper. You make a lot of interesting points I would not have thought of. But as far as our natural cooling system goes we also have our natural heating system and wearing winter clothes doesn't seem to ruin our bodily functions. IDK.
It's cool to hear you've been making your own ... interesting!
How long does the air conditioning vest with the bag keep you cool?
Not too long ... 20 or 30 minutes in real heat. I've come to prefer pre-cooling and ice water when out there
Thx for the video. Did u try „Inuteq“ products? A dutch company. The also have products with PCM.
I see occasionally high professional athletes wearing theire products e.g. Max Verstappen the current F1 champion.
I've never heard of those ... thanks for the tip
Interesting presentation,I,m searching for a cooling vest for our adult son who has M.S.,he suffers a lot by the heat,it,s a big problem for people who have M S.I,m not sure if a cooling vest would help him.Thank you😊
Good luck!!
WoW, thank you! My multiple sclerosis doesn't go well with heat, so I googled for cooling vests, as I've heard it's a thing.
The effects of heat (so called "Uhthoff's phenomenon") are like this - I go to a beach, with noticeable difficulties get into a swimming shorts (in my case it's really hard to lift my legs sometimes, which makes dressing complicated), but after swimming / cooling in water I feel much better - legs work better and I'm able to move faster for some time. I guess vest should work fine, as my brains are almost untouched by sickness, the absolute bulk of damage has been done to my spinal cord in neck and chest area - exactly what a vest would cover, which should make it quite effective (I hope).
Hang in and precool
I am like u very invested in find the best personal cooling system.
I have a compcooler ice water vest
I prefer the evaporator myself and precooling … good luck!!
Hay I have a medical problem as well the va got me a polar cooling system d/c 12 volt the battery lasts all day just have to be willing to have ice chest with you
If you can stay close to that ice chest that sounds like a great setup. Nice to hear that the VA helped out!
I am wondering where you found that circulating vest - I have searched but no luck. I found another one online that seems to be a quality one, but its $300. yikes. looking for alternative. thanks-
I think I have a link in the description
@@metaspencer lol thx - I didn't see the drop down.
I need the Ice Water Vest you wore in your video. The link has an update version that is one unit. I actually need the 2 piece version due to using a wheelchair. Any alternatives you are aware of?
Something like the Compcooler Waistpack ICE Water Cooling System might work for ya .. good luck!
@@metaspencer It looks like a winner for my condition. Doubt I would have found it without your vid and advice. Thanks for putting it out there for us.
@@trentwortman9159 Stay cool! (as they say)
Just need a good ice neck cooling towel.
This dewd is cool.
I hear ya
I relize this is older video. I have a few questions. I have MS which is a very interesting auto immune disease. I would like to know short answer which one would be good lightweight vest ?
Mobility is serious issue for me so looking for best lightweight vest .rightnow I just put ice pack everywhere but I can't move when I do that
I go with an evaporative vest most days: light and easy ... but it's wet. The best frozen vest I've used is this one amzn.to/37Jr4jW
as someone with a back issue that only activates in heat, sure they might be weird or "gizmos" as i heard other people talk about it but anything is better than looking like a crack addict scratching my back and a tiny handheld fan wont help much, but from my own experience fan ones are better for that cool breeze feeling, i really like your video! i really like your tips per type of vest, i'm probably going to get one of those air conditioned hoodie/shirt things mixed with that water one at the start, but my main concern is that it wont die off in around 3 hours and be a all rounder for versatility
stay cool out there! I'm sure you'll find the right piece of gear for your particular needs
@@metaspencer thanks for replying and i really like how informative your video was and how you explained how long they lasted and the perks and draws, it might persuade me getting one for it since i just have a fan
Can you wash the first vest that you showed in the washing machine?
Yes you can, but I tend not to wash it often as I kinda worry about it wearing out. It's still my most-used vest
@metaspencer About the fan vest you installed the fans in the wrong direction.
The way you installed they are trying to suck the air out the vest. To work they must do the opposite.
Where you plug the wires in the fan must be inside, not outside.
Good point! thanks for that
With that air cooled vest. It looked in the video like the fans, rather than trying to inflate the vest it appeared to me that they were trying to pull a vacuum. Maybe they were wired backwards! Something to verify!
Yeah I think I had some user error with that jacket -- the fans should have been the other way around. I later reversed them but never really liked the jacket. It's just too cumbersome and clunky for my taste. Thanks for the keen eye and comment!
How well does it work when the fans are blowing instead of sucking?
For a while I had the idea to make a belt with a bunch of tiny side-blower laptop fans that point up into your shirt but I haven't had the time to try putting it together. If anyone want's to try that I think it'd be worth a shot.
Could provide a nice breeze. Cool idea
The only problem with fans is they just blow the hot air.
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
Wow, thanks! Super nice of you ... stay cool out there!
Would like to find something that would work in Florida & southern states on a motorcycle. Appears the one with a circulation pump is the only one? No point in having something that is only good for an hour or so. If traveling on a trip, best is to just ride early am, break during heat of the day, & then ride late evening. But that does not work well if staying at motels or setting up a camp site.
And plenty of ice water
Hi hi. Regarding the Ice Water Circulating Cooling Vest (second to last one you reviewed)… your link does not work. There is one company that sells it online, but geez they have a horrible return policy. (You never know, so it’s nice to shop with a reputable company in case a return is necessary). Would you mind telling me the brand name on that so I can research it & find where it is sold? Thank you!!
I changed the link this vest that looks good -- but I haven't tried it yet. amzn.to/3aGHfQo
Sorry, I can't remember the brand of that vest and I no longer have it
PS I've been searching for a mattress pad that is temperature controlled by the user because of how sensitive I am to heat or just sweating because I get these sweating attacks that have been going on for years and the best I could find was an 8 Sleep Pod smart bed system. Ridiculous price tag but you control the temp from 60-110 F and, for me, it might be worth it since I'm never at a comfortable temperature but it's stupid expensive. Just thought i'd mention it since you mention these cooling vests.
Interesting idea! I've never tried one but my new truck has cooling seats that I'm eager to try out this summer :)
So you don't usually get wet from your evaporative vest?
Yes you do get wet ... you can minimize it though if you wring it out more
I got the Thermapparel cooling vest which melts at about 58 degrees F rather than 32because I don't want to be obvious that I am wearing a cooling vest. I needed something to wear under my shirt when dancing in an unairconditioned space during summer. I was considering it as an alternative to my usual method of bringing 10 lb of ice in a cooler with a couple of towels which I put on my face occasionally. I wear shorts and a loose shirt.
The retailer could not tell me the latent heat of fusion for the packs, nor would it tell me the material to enable me to ask the mfg. I'll measure it if I get a chance.
The key limitation is that it is covering less than 10% of the unexposed part of my body. So it can only carry so much heat away. With a typical dewpoint of about 65 degrees and room temperature of 80 degrees, my sense is that this does me about as much good as lowering the room temperature a degree or two. It does not cool me down in any sense of the word, but it does a little bit of good. Not as much good as standing in front of a big floor fan or putting that cold towel on my head for a minute, but it does not prevent me from doing those as well.
Your point about these vests losing half their cooling capacity to the air around you is generally not correct. Heat transfer to your body is faster than to the air, unless there is a very stiff breeze, even if the air and your body are the same temperature. And if the air is 80 degrees then the temperature difference between a cooling pack that melts at 60 degrees and the air is only 20 degrees but twice as great between the coolant and your body. And if you are wearing it under your clothes, you get some benefit by cooling the air under your shirt. Rather, the main problem is simply that their total heat capacity is small compared to what your body puts out.
Interesting to hear your perspectives!
Does the 1st vest makes your clothing wet?
Evaporative vests can get you wet, that's for sure
I recommend the "cool 58" packs from polarproducts. I have a neck pack, I took it out of the sleeve for better heat transfer. I have 2 sets. I have one on my neck, and the other in an ice bucket. The solid to liquid phase change happens at 58F, so it is not uncomfortable to have on the skin. I am in mobile alabama, and am often a vendor at craft fairs. During tent setup and take down, the combined humidity and temperature "wet bulb temperature", ie 93F and 70% humidity, is "extreme temperature". In 3 hours of swapping neck straps every 10 minutes I stay out of heat stroke danger, and melt a bit over 10 pounds of ice. Without the neck strap I start going into heat stroke in about 25 minutes. I am 6 foot 6, 270 pounds, and have a resting pulse of 53 bpm. So a problem of surface to volume ratio. My waist is less than half my height.
Interesting story ... sounds like you've found something that works for you!
Please advise which cooling vest for high humidity and hot temperature to work in UAE
Circulation pump but note that all vests also warm you. Pre cooling is best
@@metaspencer Not if they are made out of mesh. I imagine they allow the sweat to evaporate and the air to cool the body in conjunction with the sweat. Am I correct here?
@@joellerner6087 I haven't seen them in that design. Usually there is little chance for sweat to evaporate as the cooling panels cover the skin .. but maybe you'll find a good one!
@@metaspencer I'm creating something simplistic and yet novel and highly effective. I'll eventually be reaching out to you. However, even with a mesh vest, if it's over a shirt the air still isn't reaching the body as the shirt stops it. I imagine that it's still better though than a non-mesh vest as at least air is getting to the shirt, and it's lighter, and by its very nature, provides more ventilation.
Need something like a small powerful leaf blower.
IDK about MS but with my heat intolerance I feel like I have a fever and its breaking. Vomiting, sweating etc. I'm not looking for something go last 8 hours I can do most day to day tasks with breaks and my car but I would like to be able to do some kind of athletic activity for 45 minutes to an hour. Reminder that you should consider other use cases.
That sounds tough! With MS things like paralysis and blindness can kick in with the heat. Anyway, my hottest days are best managed with ice water and shade. I find the vests are okay but drinking cold ice water is even better as it keeps your system going. Good luck with it!
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I was diagnosed with Ms this year but I feel like I've had it for 20 years without knowing it. What vitamin D supplements do you take?
@@SuperAdam747 Just D3. I take 5k units a day. You should get your D levels checked as it's very important to have good D levels if you have MS. Hang in!
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OK that's great advice. Have you heard of a doctor named Jon Bergmann. He made a video about a month ago on multiple sclerosis and treatment. He is a natural health dr, so if you haven't heard of him, check him out
@@SuperAdam747 I'll check it out
I've used your first vest for many years riding motorcycles in extreme temperatures. That coupled with LDComfort underclothing has worked well for me.
Excellent. I haven't checked out that LDC stuff ... thanks for the tip!
You are a cool guy!
So, dear engineers what we learned in this video:
- Don't try to cover the body/skin.
- Don't block the body's sweat from evaporating, rather help it.
- Use slim weighess materials.
- Use a professional dress designer who can give you a look with a decent fit / colors.
My idea for free:
- Try to cool the veins close to the skin on the palm side of the wrist. So, a light wrist strap that actively cools the blood vessels would be sufficient.
If you're warm and sweating like a horse, anyone can test how effective it is to cool the wrist veins in cold water and feel like you've been replaced in 1-2 minutes. Many people don't know how effectively the veins can cool or even warm the human body.
Great idea! In the ER when someone came in with a high fever we had to cool them down quickly. We filled 5 ziplock bags part way with crushed ice. The baggies were then wrapped in cloth, because it is not good to place ice directly on skin. One ice bag was placed against each groin, one against each armpit and one behind the neck. The patient cooled down quickly. Body temperature was monitored carefully to prevent too much temperature loss too quickly. This is not medical advice, only a report of my former experience as an ER nurse. Use at your own risk, and consider running this idea by a currently practicing healthcare professional before trying it.
Obviously best for when you’re recumbent or sitting, but maybe some clever engineer will come up with something for more active times.
Thank you my new friend , I live in very dry and summer hot area , so the evaporative should be good and Ill use it for work ,also will keep cold water in a cooler to refresh the vest if needed .
I wish to help you to feed your animals . Ill let you know how it works for me , buying it now.
Best from me .
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Stay cool my friend! I like your spirit!
They are expensive too & thoat they will keep you cold but it’s limited time, I think a white t-shirt from good material works better like some soft coton, I also seen syntethic even if football players use it it’s not good for skin specialy the shirt as pants are ok becoase human body is cooler for the lower part
Good points
Evaporative Cooling Vest would work better on a motorcycle or something moving quickly… the ice vest would work much better if you wet the vest before putting it on…
That's a nice vest! I mean that's an ice vest!!
haha ... chilly!
how about an umbrella that you wear while you work
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not a bad idea if it works for you ... there even reflective umbrellas
Hi.....do you have a way I can contact you direct to chat about these......I also have health issues where I need to stay cool so I would be helpful to message you if possible....Thank you
Metaspencer at gmail
Hay bro are u going to do the bus painting
I'm actually holding off on the bus painting for the time being ... right now I'm working on some mechanical stuff (blew a belt), but the bus has been great in there!
Man you put the fans in the wrong way!! Lol. Instead of blowing air in it was sucking air out 😂😂 this fan vests are really popular here in Japan and when you wear it you look like a Michelin mascot
I missed out on looking like the Michelin man! doh! Oh well, as I recall the jacket found a happy teenager to own it :)
Hey Metaspencer, Thanks for reviewing our ThermApparel PCM Cooling Vest. We are glad it helps. We just want to clarify a few things.
The ThermApparel PCM Cooling Vest is not an ice vest, it's a PCM Cooling Vest. What's the difference? PCM can freeze and melt at different and specific temps where ice can only freeze at 1 temp.
Ice Vests can only be refrozen in the freezer. Making you dependent on a freezer.
ThermApparel PCM Cooling Packs melt and refreeze at 70F / 21C so you can refreeze them in ice water, the fridge or a freezer. Why is that important? It makes our Cooling Vest portable. For instance... Let's say you go to a large outdoor festival, event or picnic. The Cooling Packs wear out, you can refreeze in a cooler of ice water in 30 min and be good to go. You don't have to leave or go home.
Because our Cooling Packs melt and refreeze at 70F / 21C they are safe to wear under your clothing against your skin. They will not cause ice burn, they will not condense, getting you wet like ice packs or evaporative vests.
Our cooling vest works better than ice and ice vests. Why is that and why is it important?
• When your body is hot your blood vessels open up to allow heat to be released. In other words, you sweat and when air hits your sweat it cools your body down.
• Ice and Gel Packs cause blood vessels to constrict, preventing cooled blood from reaching your core. Ice is wonderful for cooling down a specific part of your body or bringing down swelling, but it doesn't cool your entire body. There is a reason doctors say 20 min on and 20 min off with ice packs. You need your blood vessels to open back up to allow the blood to start flowing again.
• ThermApparel PCM Cooling Packs cools the blood without constricting your blood vessels. As your blood flows past the PCM Cooling Packs the they cool your blood and your body keeps pumping cool blood through your system keeping your whole body cool.
The ThermApparel PCM Cooling Vest may look a little strange... but it was designed with over 200+ customer discovery interviews of MS patients. We asked them what they wanted in a cooling vest. They said they wanted something lightweight, comfortable and invisible. That is what we designed. it is meant to be worn under your clothing and so no can tell you have it on. Isn't that cool!! It doesn't call attention to your MS.
The vest with 1 set of SlimCool packs weighs 1.3 lbs
The vest with 1 set of ExtendedCool packs weighs 1.9 lbs
The SlimCool Cooling Packs last 1-2 hours depending on your level of activity.
2+ hours if you're wearing it inside in an air-conditioned area
2 hours if you're are doing light housework
1.5 hours if you're are outside doing gardening or taking a brisk walk
1 hour if you're on a treadmill or exercising
under 1 hour if you're in extreme temps
The ExtendedCool Cooling Packs last 2-3 hours depending on your level of activity.
3+ hours if you're wearing it inside in an air-conditioned area 3 hours if you're are doing light housework
2.5 hours if you're are outside doing gardening or taking a brisk walk
2 hour if you're on a treadmill or exercising
1 hour if you're in extreme temps
Hope that helps explain the ThermApparel Cooling Vest better!
Oh, one more thing.... Order from our website. Your viewers will have full access to our inventory, they won't be giving money to Amazon and if you want to become an affiliate we promise to pay you more than .025 cents.
Cheers! Team ThermApparel
Wow, that's the longest RUclips comment I've ever seen! One question for your company: do you find that your vest has insulating properties (or an R value) actually locking body heat in? I ask because that has been my experience with your vest. It seem to insulate and thus thwart the body's cooling mechanisms
@@metaspencer The cooling packs act as a heat sink and draw the heat out of your core. Once they have completely melted and can no longer draw heat they will reverse and you will start to feel warm as the packs will act like a heat pack. It's a quick fix. Take them out, put them in ice water and in 30 min they will be frozen again and ready to keep you cold.
Refreezing times -
30 min - Ice water
45 min - Fridge
60 min - Freezer
@@thermapparel I'm not so sure -- while they might act as a heat sink I fear they simultaneously insulate the core.
@@thermapparel Your product takes 30 minutes to refreeze in ice water. If i take my ice packs or ice/gel packs with me in my cooler bag it takes a few seconds to change out my already frozen cooling pack. I'm not knocking your product, but I felt it necessary to add my 2 cents. Also PCM cooling packs won't last as long if they are freezing at 70 degrees.
That is how I wear thermal apparel too.
excellent
Nice video
big thanks!
I live in Africa, summers at 36-46 degrees Celsius, but have never had the need for a cooling vest. I love heat and humidity.
You're tough! That's so excellent to hear
Alien.
Inside home and ac on there is not need for cooling vest, that's for poor bastards like me, who have work hard outside