Maserati GranTurismo Folgore review - Maserati's 751bhp first EV! Autocar
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2022
- This is the new Maserati GranTurismo Folgore, and it's a Maserati grand tourer like no other, because it's fully electric.
Yup, the GranTurismo coupe is back, and it looks as glorious as ever it did. It'll be available with a V6 in two states of tune or, intriguingly, as here, with three electric motors. And between them they make quite a lot of power.
The GranTurismo Folgore's peak power output is some 751bhp, which is enough to take this 2260kg kerbweight Maserati from 0-62mph in 2.7sec and give it a 199mph top speed.
The battery is big: the Folgore has an 83kWh usable battery, which can charge at up to 270kW. Range is predicted to be 280 miles or thereabouts when the car goes on sale late summer 2023. In the UK, the Folgore will cost close to £200,000.
Join Matt Prior as he tests this prototype on a race track in Italy, in some dismal conditions. And stay tuned for more updates on the GranTurismo, including reviews of the finished article - with electric or internal combusted power.
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Thanks Matt for an intelligent and insightful review. Glad we still have a car channel aimed at adults.
Thank you Matt, excellent review as always.
Let's be honest, we all just want that V8 noise back don't we :P
Not only that but an engaging transmission.
No we don't 🤢🤮
No, we don’t. Some of us embrace change
Unbelievable how little they have changed from the outside.
Evolution of design not revolution of design, its a common concept in car manufacturing, bmw stuck at it for a while, the 911 has almost not changed, aston design language only evolves, the golf evolves, audi do it. Ferrari also. Its not a bad thing if the design language is timeless.
A good thing in my opinion
@@heinedenmark yeah why change a good thing
The changes are noticeable to me. This new one is not as masculine or sharp as the previous one. The design language is softer.
Love it, evolution and timeless design. As opposed to the BMW/Hyundai way of disposable design language.
Maserati is back at making great cars again
Wait... So you CAN'T turn off the noise?! A GT that forces the owner - after spending how much - to listen to FAKE noise? FYI, the noise that is "so central to the character" is practically unavoidable, and so has been the focus of a personality feature. In EVs, that is NOT the case, nor should it ever be. The only time ANY drivetrain noise should be present is when it is AUTHENTIC!! Outside of that - which would be a deal-killer for me (how annoying would that be over time?!! - this looks like a really nice, exciting car. Given they have a few months to work on things, how about spending a few minutes to decide on an on/off switch for the stupid noises?
It's good to see Maserati getting their act together and shaping things up for the future.
The sound of this car in the video actually makes me want to fall asleep.
On the back of the steering wheel there are the same button of a 10yo grand cherokee
They still the most intuitive steering wheel radio controls around.
@lotsofcurveslover maybe, once you get used too.... I still have no idea about what the do
@@lotsofcurveslover apart from maybe Renault, who's audio controls are pretty much unchanged in 40 years and are really intuitive.
“…and give it a 199mph top speed.”
*We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close.*
I would like to see a V6 with Electric Motors, I hope they will not discard the ICE engine in the game of Electric super cars. Maserati are a legendary company but since they need the battery tech to be competitive they could collaborate with Audi, Rimac, LG, Toyota and also the Tesla for the electric part.
Yeahhh the version with the engine is the one to have
Didn't mention the steering wheel paddles? What do they do?
When an EV looks like this sign me up for Folgore
For 200k?
@@jafooli It's a Maserati. What did you expect?
There’s just something so special about Maserati over the likes of Ferrari or Porsche
Matt Prior too much in-your-face charisma and explosive enthusiam for me to handle
Said no one ever.
@@dombower u missed the sarcasm
😂😂😂
I like Matt, and he’s in a different universe to the other bloke who could bore a brick wall to death.
Maybe, but Matt is one of the most experienced journos in the business. He knows his onions
Thank you Matt and a very happy 2023
Be interesting to see how this car does. It at least looks good.
Good to the point review. I like this guy.
intriguing
Looks like the KARMA...Does it have battery swap?
Whoda thought Mazza would be leading the way eh? Much closer to my idea of an EV...
A weird statement to not put this in the same category as a Taycan. Very similar 0-62, similar (WLTP), range. The only thing not similar is price, not to the Maserati's benefit. I like the looks of this car but the price is hefty indeed. Will be interested to see how it handles in final form and not in what looked to be utterly dismal conditions.
I think it sounds much better than I expected. Not as good as the last one obviously but not bad for an EV.
Great video 👍
What I find funny is that they trust the reviewers with reviewing the whole car before they trust us to see the interior of the car. Wtf are they trying to hide?
Apparently the interior hasn't been fully signed off yet..
Batteries, indeed!
Happy new year Matt
Intrigued to know what those buttons would be for on the back of the steering-wheel spokes...?
I presume the 'flappy-paddles' will be for adjusting the regen - so what those buttons be for...???? 🤔
volume for radio, and to change channels
They're audio controls. Pretty standard across the Stellantis group and have been on their cars for years. I had an old 2000- model Jeep Grand Cherokee with these.
Why oh why after months of the car being announced they still do not show the interior...what is the big deal?
Oh great that's exactly what we need more 2.9 sec cars to hu dred cause you know we have so many attentive great drivers who can handle such power.....sarcasm.
This is the same setup as the Lucid Air Dream (Sapphire) - Three motors (2 rear, 1 front) at 600HP each with their Max being 2 motors used at once (so 1200hp).
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Seems like this is the way to go.
I enjoyed watching the First Drive Video . I will look forward to more Videos coming In 2023
They should make a version with only one engine.
Use the front unit only, just put it in the back.
400 horsepower and plenty of electric torque, with reduced weight, will be enough for many, not everyone wants to do drag racing in their luxury GT.
They would reduce the price + increase the group of buyers, just like Taycan.
I keep my fingers crossed for Maserati, now im waiting to see what Lancia will show!
Happy new year 🎉
You should have flung it around,it’s a prototype no need to be kind to it next time .
Very intersting design of end of the door inside and the back passager window.
I have one and it sounds really horrible. Just code some v8 sound even if it’s synthetic ok?
Took them long enough, not helped by the famous former CEO of Fiat Chrysler.
Think it's too little to late for Maserati. But they're a highly niche highly profitable brand anyways.
A lada has more soul, 190k Jesus shake your head people, a few Dyson motors and wiring.
Front resembles the Ferrari 599
100%
Just put the MC20 motor in and call it a day.
What a shame for such a brilliant brand of old, one of its best features was its sound.
Did Maserati say whose high current charging network they will be accessing. Are they going to join Ionity (BMW, Mercedes, Porsche at present)? Other than Ionity and Tesla, the rest of the high current networks, seem to be a total mess of different connectors and payment systems. Each national government should mandate a single national payment network and pricing for each country and the EU should mandate a single payment network and pricing structure for EV charging across the whole of the EU. Having to have various apps on one's phone to access different payment systems is a complete nonsense.
The EU mandated a single connector years ago, and every new EV except the ageing Nissan Leaf uses CCS2. In the UK, it is now law that new charge points need to accept credit/debit card contactless payments. Since Gridserve took over the motorway service station network, all their chargers now accept contactless (and there's more of them, with more uptime, than ever before). EV makers don't need to sell their cars with a charging network package - public infrastructure is good enough now.
What’s! Gas engine forever!
Maserati is on a roll
For 200k, there is an awful alot of competition at or below this price point. They will more than likely sell each and every one of them the build and that is the point. It just wont be the best EV out there in the 200k price point. Then again its a Maserati, nobody ever purchased one because it was best in class.
Nope there is nothing like it at it's price range and form factor.
Looks like a Jaguar
To be fair, it does look like a Maserati.
Shame it sounds like a milk float.
🙄
Is it based on the outgoing GranTurismo that we've had since 2007? Because the proportions and shape looks largely like a facelifted version of the old chassis!
No, of course it’s not.
@@HumanButcher150 Citation? Or are you juts assuming? Because from what I'm seeing, it's a rework of the old floor plan with all the same hard points. From what I've found, it also appears to have the exact same wheel base and track.
It’s based on the Giorgio platform also used by Alfa Romeo. It’s a completely new model compared to the old one. Don’t change a winning formula regarding the exterior….
@@daanvk2465 I'm happy with that answer... I was curious considering there will be petrol version of the same car, so it's not an EV specific platform. Regardless, I still think its a fantastic looking car and hope it will be a successful model for Maserati.
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That’s Fantastic! Dyson now can use it for there next commercial…….
You shouldn’t call this a review, maybe a “quick drive” if you can’t spend at least a day with it. A few laps on a wet track are not enough to give a final verdict on a grand touring coupe. You can’t even show us the interior or the boot.
looks great, lost the Maserati sound...
The sound of valves being mangled??
The sound of killer depreciation and cheap plastics? Shame!
I wonder who would buy an EV that looks that good, and that ‘normal’. EVs are absolutely not environmentally friendly, the CO2 break-even point versus ICE being at a mileage much higher than most owners will reach before replacing. Accordingly, most EV purchases have been exercises in virtue signalling - aided by the weirdest possible design.
Yes, purely in manufacturing terms, a BEV (currently) produces more CO2 to build than an equivalent-sized ICE vehicle - down to sourcing of the chemicals required to manufacture the batteries.
However, just reading up on 2 independent reports widely available on the web - from Bloomberg and Reuters - it's interesting though that, whilst their 'CO2 modelling' takes account of the CO2 generated from battery resource mining and the CO2 as a result of electricity production, neither report refers to the CO2 produced in the extraction, refining, shipping and dispensing of petrol and diesel fuel... only to the CO2 generated as tailpipe emissions over the life of an ICE vehicle.
In addition, whilst, at the moment, there are very few BEV batteries that are at a point in their 'life' where they would be suitable for recycling - once they can't power a car for what would be deemed an acceptable range, they then get a second life as home / business battery storage units etc - once batteries do become recyclable, over 90% of all battery chemicals can be extracted and reused in the manufacture of new battery packs, thereby reducing the battery manufacturing CO2 of future BEVs.
Having said all of that, even the Reuters report suggested that the breakeven mileage could be as low as only 8,400 miles, depending on whether or not how much clean electricity is being generated.
I saw the prototype here in Bologna, it's much nicer Than it looks in the video!
Looks like Maserati are having a bit of a renaissance having just seen the MC20 win ECOTY but the design of this looks too much like it's predecessor which dates from 2007. A shame they couldn't have been a bit braver with the styling
Will be Great with V8
Wow I think cars review videos will become a thing of the past, there's no automotive emotion with an electric vehicle no matter how fast it is, it's over 😢 and for what, electric vehicles are far from "green" lol
But greener than a combustion so better
@@iKaGe01 you have no clue if that's points true, green in what sense? Who is providing the power, nuclear or coal etc. The cobalt etc, how many kids had hands chopped off, how many streams were poisoned, how many square miles were wrecked?
@@Murphy252000 Petrol/diesel is no better. You're forgetting how it all gets to the pumps in the first place. It doesn't come out of fresh air
@@iKaGe01 your statement was, "greener than a combustion engine," I will leave it at that.
@@Murphy252000 and I'll leave it at this.
You can't run a combustion car without fuel. You can't run an electric without electricity so.... mute point
Maserati, Alfa, Jaguar... all have electronic Gremlins and now they all are planning EV's. Imagine what it will be like hauling this thing to the shop only to watch the mechanic who has never seen one scratch his head trying to understand why the computer keeps crashing... No Thanks
I don't think any type of premium EV will depreciate worse than one built on a platform that also uses internal combustion engines - it's always a compromise (heavier, less efficient, less range), and bizarre to me that anyone would buy one over a Taycan, e-Tron GT, etc.
Another EV.....oh joy.
Another EV hater...
You will also be able to get this with a normal engine by the way. It won't be as powerful though
@@N1ckZ Not a hater, it's about the push, let the consumer decide.
@tommanley2924 umm they let the consumer decide. As I said there will also be a petrol version
@@N1ckZ I'm talking overall EV's, a general statement.
I say the ICE last longer if taken care of therefore is a better value for my money.
@@tommanley2924 NOT RELEVANT, you are just pushing falsehood narrative.
There is a Supply Shortage of Road Vehicle including ICE and BEVs are especially limited supply. No one is junking old cars early and BEVs is still a minority of the market. It is NOT up to the Consumer to decide, the limiting factor is MANUFACTURING Supply Capacity. Stop spreading Falsehoods.
FYI Value for money is not a major factor for a 2 Door 751bhp GT.
Another exceptionally dull video! Well done!
As soon as maserati goes ev I give them 5 years top before they get wiped off of earth 😂, the whole point and pretty much the only reason to buy a maserati was the sound, now that thats gone, this company will also be gone soon. Well, it was nice knowing u maserati, thanks for the beautiful orgasmic sounding cars in your past. Even this review is impossible to watch with the lack of sound, so boring.
Driving around like its a Astra estate diesel
will be outdated soon as it come out
It only gets tougher for Elon from here. The Tesla Moment is over.
Yup. Tesla’s only advantage was that it was first to the market. If Tesla wants to stay competitive in the future they would need to drastically improve the build quality and reliability.
@@electrikoptik right, but their charging network is still a major plus.
@@LightBranches but they just opened that to everyone which was an odd move but elons moved these days all seem bad
Tesla isn’t exactly the type of company you think it is. Tesla’s vision is not limited to ev manufacturing.
Choice is good. Not all about one manufacture.
TG mag bought stocking filler. Was shocked they liked this so much. Only 200k so massively out of reach. Save50k Petrol models. TG said way way above other EV rivals. I remember my old visceral 4200GT cambiocorsa spyder but tho the smell and engine addictive was a poor all round package. Alas 10 times cheaper used 20k.
Eh?
200k????? For a car that has no range. Let's get real and buy a car for say 30k that can go 500 miles on a tank of reliable, cheap and available fuel.
Nooooo! With no engine, it sucks!
It has 3 engines
So Maserati is looking to enter the white goods market?
maserati bez zvuka nema budučnost
The front is not that attractive as it used to be
Do you honestly think people are going to buy these electric milk floats !!!! They do absolutely nothing for me
I don't understand these reviews showing this car half hidden in regards to the interior! The exterior is old and boring, looks like the old car. They might as well show inside because this is putting me to sleep.
I can't really see the market for a two tonnes, two hundred thousand pounds Maserati that sounds like an air-conditioning unit; you might as well buy a Tesla and save yourself a ton of money.
I don't know how they can justify the price of the ICE version let alone the EV
It is perhaps the best looking EV yet and I loathe EV's (and SUV's, Stupid Ugly Vans).
I wish they’d tried harder with the looks, too much old car in it for me and I don’t think it was the best looking Maserati or GT
A $200,000 car and sounds of a Fiat Abarth.....🤣 no thanks!!
Purchase an ev and stay in the city cause country driving aint gonna happen.
Not watching cos it's an EV. Unhappy new year
But you still felt the need to comment under it anyway? I wonder why 🤔
@@gigabyte2248 feedback
Maserati with chinese powertrain and no sound, utterly pointless
Maybe cool it with the blatant lies. I don't know of any Chinese EV Power Train suppliers to European Automakers who can provide a 751hp capable battery.
Soo far Stellantis has signed deals to hoard supply capacity from Samsung SDI and LG Chem. Only Samsung SDI has a history of supplying high powered battery packs.
Boring!
Happy 202🔱
👁️ 🌊 wat u did there 🎉
Oh no Maserati going electric. So dull, so boring. We are going backwards chaps with this ridiculous electric car agenda, in every way. 🤦♂️
Another piece of expensive electro-trash...not a single chance of trading in my Morphy Richards toaster for this...
Damn, this was boring, skip, skip, skip....
I was excited and interested until I read "EV"!! 😯😂🩲🦨🚗😀🤘 .
It has a lovely body, but it needs an actual engine!! 😯😂😀🤘🤞
I was almost got asleep ... 🥱
probably it will be the last nail in 🔱 coffin