Why a Used Maserati Is So CHEAP
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- You read it here first. That's right, a used Maserati is cheap. Right? Well, the story is always a bit more complicated when we go to buy used cars of any kind, and a Maserati has a complex story every time. Check out today's video to see why used Maserati's are cheap and what you should do about that.
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I bet that dealership just LOVED this review. :)
Maybe they did. Have not heard yet.
@@ECPP Why did you blur the dealer's name? We all know it's Edmonton.
@@taunuslunatic404 Not blurred out at 7:18
@@taunuslunatic404 Yeah we “all” live in Edmonton so we “all” know
@@MarioGoatse It's visible in the video.
I had a Levante for 5 years and yes it lost a lot of value when i sold it but i never had a problem with it. I have a Grecale now which i would not trade for any other SUV. It has character and flair. It drives amazing. People love it!
Totally right and the newer vehicles have more character which often is missing in many more mainstream vehicles
Don't think Levante have even been out for 5 yrs!
@@shebamutsince 2016
@@shebamutyes they have!😂 people love to talk and have no idea what they’re talking about!
Me too had 3 in a rowl
This is funny. My business partner purchased a Aston Martin DB9 convertible brand new in 2006. We are now in 2024. He has done nothing except yearly services. People have asked him "aren't you concerned with the depreciation?" His answer "I bought it to drive, not to concern myself with depreciation". And therein lies the difference between people with real money, and people who don't have real money, and worry about depreciation.
Great point!
This…if you are going to bitch about depreciation and reliability, get a lexus or acura
you forgot to mention he drives twice a year
60k miles on my 2014 Gran Turismo - no complaints 🤨🙌🏽
Do my own maintenance- very straightforward in regular servicing - oil changes, filters, serpentine belt
That's good to hear. I'm not in the market for one but I think that for 10 year old luxury GT cars they're still among the nicest looking and best sounding. Visually they held up really well, and outside of the weight and maintenance costs, they seem like great options.
I have considered buying one . I do my own maintenance on my Mercedes R129's
Belt at 60k? No thanks
@@APE029 have you never heard of typical 7yr/90k timing belt changes on most Japanese cars?
Proper maintenance is key to many cars, especially high-end Europeans- but any car approaching 60k/10yrs needs to have the serpentine belt changed.
@@davednealy9009 2012 cayenne has been fine transmission is gold 120k miles, I did just get my injectors/exhaust cleaned up.. I'll say Mercedes and bmw transmission don't hold up well
The reliability of the Italian cars is really improved in the recent decades. Italian cars usually have little issues, but rarely big problems. Living in Europe and also in the US I can say that our mechanics are of another level or preparation in Europe.
Mechanics in Europe have to be good, European cars are notorious for bad reliability ratings, just read consumer reports. I’ve worked on hundreds of cars and European cars are additionally clunky designed to be worked on. Parts on average are much more expensive to buy, just check RockAuto prices. I put my facts where my mouth is.
What do you mean by another level? Are you saying that European techs are better?
They are no better lol. Italian cars are terrible even in 2024.
🧢🧢
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
These are shockingly affordable used compared to new, and these are the reasons why. ..... But boy do they sound fantastic!
Especially the true Ferrari drivetrains. Amazing
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
I have had two Maserati Granturismo sports and I have never had a problem. They are very well put together.
never had a problem with mine either
Finally someone who owns it talking about it
However, depreciation is always stonking. For a reason.
same here, since 1 year a grecale - no problem
if you dont drive them they dont brake
I’ve had a grancabrio for 11 yrs, With no problems.
Are they worth owning in your opinion
The problems listed are like horoscope: could apply to any brand.
Dude proceeds to talk down to the brand in their own lot 😂 hell naw 😂😂 legend 😂
Lol. Thanks for watching.
And right across the parking lot from the Land Rover, Jaguar, Porsche dealership, where he points out the competition. Lol
U should c the statuesque blonde that works in reception .the Saudis that run it protect her pretty well
Most Maserati lots are SHARED lots and if you talk to the sales people they talk down about the maseratis too. I went to one recently and the sales rep told me numerous reasons NOT to buy a maserati but to buy one of their other brands instead.
I had a 4200 coupe and had regular a service done every year and it treated me fine. Yes the electrics were random with the christmas dashboard sometimes but nothing broke. Had a new clutch which is expected (I burnt it out). Drove it like I stole it and she held up just find. It was a 2004 so from the age when they were poor quality but that 4.2 V8 was amazing. Sounded great, had power all the way through the rev range.
The secret to buying a Maserati is to buy it CPO. The certified warranty has unlimited mileage and even brand new you don't get unlimited mileage. You can buy one CPO, put 100,000 miles on it in three years, then sell it or trade it for another. That is the least expensive way to enjoy them and you make that depreciation work for you, not against you. For the price of a low end Benz, you can drive a spectacularly appointed Quattroporte with Zegna silk interior and wood that costs more than an entire Hyundai. Alternatively, if you are good with DIY, and have a shop nearby that works on Maserati, any of the six cylinder ones can be kept running well for about the same $$$ as a Porsche. The 8 cylinder ones are for the wealthy, period; don't even bother if your income is solely by W2 wages I don't care how high.
That’s true because this is now Ferrari territory for dollars spend on servicing
If you do the math you are spending more on CPO maserati than other luxury brands because you are committing yourself to only "three years" and "selling it or trading it in" AT A LOSS because you "put 100,000 miles on it". If you did the same with more reliable brands like Porsche, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, or Lexus you could keep the car longer and not have to "sell or trade it in" AT A LARGE LOSS because they hold their value better. You might end up keeping it if it is reliable and not have to spend more money on renting a used luxury car for three years only to repeat.
For example, you can buy a CPO Quattroporte with Zegna silk interior on average between 65K to 75K currently. Or you could buy a CPO S class for the same price. The S class has better reliability and holds its value better. Maserati needs to step it up and fix their reliability issues imo.
@@cjking4511 which Maserati did you have?
@@allcdr9944 I had a quattroporte but gave it to my oldest son. He still has it as a spare but drives an suv as his main car now
My Maserati GranTurismon was reliable for the first two years and now is in the shop and the bill at a Ferrari specialist is going to be over 3K with the leaking valve covers and the squishy brakes. It sucks but I knew what I was getting into when I bought it.
Still a great driver car all the way. The brakes are lonely an easy fix btw
If 3k is your first major bill after 2 years of ownership, that’s really not that bad
@@MrMan-fx3ow I agree. Got the car back. Total bill with a few other things addressed came to $4,300. Not bad after 2.5 years of ownership. I also spent $1,200 last year for a new A/C compressor install and recharge. I should be good to go for several more years. I will never sell this car.
@@skittlesgarage what year do you have? How many miles? And how much do you drive it? I’ve been thinking about getting one because I have multiple cars
YOU ARE A GREAT & PROPER EXOTIC CAR OWNER !
MOST PEASANTS BUY THE CAR, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX IT,
SO THEY DRIVE IT TO DEATH WITH NO MAINTENANCE OR REPAIRS,
THEN THEY PUT A PIECE OF JUNK ON THE MARKET FOR THE NEXT SAP !
I’ve loved all of my Maseratis. The only problem I’ve ever had an issue over is their AC, and slow to progress onboard tech. However, the sound of the V8 is second to none. I’d go as far to say the F136 V8 is probably the best V8 ever made
Plus the best-sounding V8.
No ac is enough of a problem in las vegas. No thank you.
@@tangosierra911 honestly, my GT sounds better than my Aston V12
What model and model year of the Maserati had the best sound with the F136 V8 that you know of?
@@rowthunder I was there last July. Never been there during the summer, only winter. I didn't think it would be a big deal cause it's "dry" heat. OMG... it was like 110 during the day. AC is an absolute MUST in Vegas.
I will be buying myself a used one here shortly. Was looking for a sporty car to tool around in. This just sold me on one. Thanks.
I owned a 2012 GT. It was 6 years old when I got it for less than 40K. was absolutely wonderful. Sure there were things to maintain over 5 years, but nothing extraordinary. I regret selling it, will be getting another one soon.
I had an ‘09 GT and sold it to get engaged/married. Lol. I miss my car so much.
In my opinion you did well selling the Maserati. They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
@@thethreatwrestling.7053 I tend not to take advice about stylish cars from someone who drives a boring Honda. If your sole priority is maintenance, you did well. But I'd rather spend more for some class and individuality
@@magnificus8581 Stylish (luxury cars) are more to show or fake your wealth if you are owning or renting depending where you live. I have rented a BMW in one of my prevoius vacations and they are fun, fast but the seats are stiff, somehow not comfortable, and tigher interior. I agree that I don't like to over spend in expensive maintenance, expensive parts replacements, expensive labor in a car that is not going to get you the 25% of my Honda CR-V's lifespan, reliability, durability.
@@magnificus8581 Expensive cars are made to show and fake wealth without long term reliability or durability. You will be a slave in driving to the mechanic and destroying your account eventually. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD fully loaded comes with all the belts and whistles, is a type of brand that you trust and know that your car will last you hundreds of thousands of miles with just the standard maintenance, it's a beast in the snow, excellent AWD system, comfy driving to any place, and saves you the big hassle of the expensive vehicle lol.
Well articulated video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
My wife is on her fifth Ghibli. She leases them every two -3years - Never a problem on any of them.
That has been my experience as well. Never had a repair bill on my Ghibli’s either.
i still have my 2014 and i cant agree more!
She definitely probably gets them brand new 0 miles lol
So you're bragging about a car that makes it 20k miles with no issues. If your wife even drives that much
A new car every 20-30K should not have any problems. Now keep that thing for 100K and see how many problems you will have 😂😂😂
Back when I was reviewing cars for a living, I drove the (then brand new) Granturismo coupe - and while I instantly fell in love with the car's looks and sound, I distinctly remember how it didn't look like a 100,000 EUR/USD car on the inside. General lack of care WRT fit/finish and materials used. And that was a press car of a model that had just launched a few months prior. I also attended a very fun Maserati-held driving event at a race-track where they had a high-ish mileage Quattroporte with them (I think they were using it as a shuttle-car) - which looked pretty beat up and tired on the inside as well. Paint/lacquer peeling off of most of the center-console switches and buttons (and there were a *ton* of those buttons in those days), little rubber insert covers sliding around and exposing ugly plastic and screw-heads underneath, etc. Basically, stuff you wouldn't tolerate on a 25000 family hatchback.
My sister purchased her 2016 range rover lwb for 29k and what i love about it is the spacious leg room the backseats have and you can recline them back, im 6'5 and i fit so comfortablely in the back my knees don't even touch the front passenger seats.
I paid 40k usd for my 2019 Ghibli S with only 17k kms on it in near mint condition. I love it, not had any issues in the 2 years I’ve owned it, just the routine oil and filter change. Honestly I just love driving it, it’s a whole different world to the Benz I had. Looking back that now felt very sterile to drive compared to the Mas.
I was a bit nervous trying to decided to buy it or not as they get so much stick on YT but I just fell in love with it, no regrets!
That’s great to hear. These cars are great sounding and fun to drive.
Haven’t even watched the video yet but from personal experience. I loved my 2014 Maserati GranTurismo. Beautiful car beautiful sounds, it was amazing. What I didn’t love was $450/insurance, $4000 to change all 4 brakes, $800 parking brake button (just the button), $450 visor replacement, $9000 bumper replacement, etc etc. needless to say I’m selling it after 3 amazing years and I’ll never regret owning one
That’s what these things are, it’s the true ownership experience. We don’t pay the huge initial price, and not incur any additional cost. I’ve owned a Lotus, Tesla and a Porsche Macan. Even new Tesla OEM Continental tires were so expensive. If you play the status symbol game and get one, then you’ll have to pay. The sad truth, but I also have zero regrets over owning these cars. Looking for my next one actually. 😂
So that much problem in only 3 years? 😅
@@lokyinphotography yes, it wasn’t in the best condition when I bought it but honestly I would almost say it was worth it while I had it lol
You Americans really get ripped off when you buy European cars. The prices you pay for parts / repairs is ridiculous.
9k bumper is just disrespectful
My buddy just bought his second one, a 2019, and he’s also a Porche guy who daily drives a Pana. Reliability is great he said. There are two different Maserati dealers within 45 minutes in two different directions, but also 3 exotic repair shops in town. (Redbank in central NJ). Another friend had a brand new one before Covid, that he daily drove, and never had a problem, but both cars were Gran Turismos, and those cars essentially have the same engine for over a decade, so Maserati has figured that car out, mostly. But even if there’s no problems, you’re not getting a way cheaper than the cost of a Mercedes.
I dig the Maserati Quatrofologo might get one today. Great review the reason why they dropped down in prices they kind of priced them too high and they lost a lot of clients so I bet first of all the Maserati dealership loves this review and second of all I might be getting one .
One problem is maintenance is high and once there is a mechanic problem, it can be very pricy, it simply not very relable. They are improving though. Another problem is Maserati doesn’t have as many shops or dealerships unless you live in a big city. another problem is they are gas guzzlers but despite all that you can get it for Pennie’s on the dollar vs a Porsche.!
Dude!! I was gonna get a grantourismo manual, loved the blue with Red interior, while test driving, the engine went out at a stop light, no revving or anything!!!
Oh no, what was the end result?
@@ECPP I didn’t get it, I think they’re still waiting on a new engine, I’ve got my heart set on a 04 Dodge Viper now, hopefully I’ll close on the deal soon
Appreciate your time talking about these cars.
Like them, but not practical living in North Dakota.
Would look good though for 3 months out of the year.
True it’s really not practical for everyone
I think my main problem with Maserati is that you have to go to a dealer.. living in Los Angeles. That's not a problem but on a used car. I would prefer to use my own mechanic and very few mechanics are Ferrari Maserati savvy.
I would agree with that
You need look harder, you can find many independents especially in LA
You aren't looking very hard if you're in LA and can't find anyone. Google it.
Parts availability for independents, software and diagnostics, etc. Can be a real challenge if your not a dealer.
A car is a car, an engine is an engine, if you can get parts anyone can fx it😁😎
I had 5 of them and never had an issue, they’re pretty reliable and delicious to drive
😂😂😂 good joke bro !
I have had 3 of them and they all had issues. Unless you have an independant service guy that can do these cars you will spend $4K to $6K on breaks, my independant guy did them for $1,200. The ball bearings fail around 3-4th year, $6K to $$9K expense (prices are random at dealers they quote you the highest amount and see if you take it. Then they say we will give you a discount when you say no. CROOKS!!!). Just avoid this brand, you will be miserable and regret owning it. Either move up to real Italian super car or move down to German or American Supercars. Same price but way more fun and way less issues.
These are enthusiasts cars. Theyre not for everybody. I have a 4.7 liter so it cost more to maintain than the 2013 and newer versions. These cars are only reliable as you make them but if you are the type that neglects your car expect them to be unreliable. You buy a Maserati because you plan on keeping it forever not because you want to look cool and keep up with the jones. It’s levels to ownership. If this isn’t a dream purchase just lease it
@@Charlie-uz2lu I leased most of them, the first one I bought but t was falling apart so I was forced to sell it. It's not that great of car for the price, used maybe. New ones are not worth the price, better options and better cars that are more fun.
my uncle had one brand new and the dash caught fire it was a 2022 model .
Dealers are already offering up to $35K off brand new 2024 GranTurismo's. So it's looking worse than ever before, if you paid sticker for one, you already lost more than 20% in the first few months.
I got rid of my Maserati and went with a Porsche. Never going back
I have a 2009 Gran T S - love the car. I do the Maintenace myself, oil, brakes, changed out the alternator 3 times. These cars have to be maintained, but otherwise they are not bad if you can work on them yourself.
How hard is it to do the alternator job?
I weighed all of this info and still bought one and absolutely love mine. I'm aware of the cost of breaks and maintenance ect... But considering my classic muscle car habit if you think pricey breaks and oil changes are scary frame off resto mods are gonna kill you. 😂😂 Everyone has different wants and capabilities I don't lean on the car for 1,000 miles a month, I rotate it with 2 other cars so it definitely feels great to drive it every time I do.
Drive three different cars to make one reliable. I think it's great that you can do that.
Maserati is ultra lux the others mentioned were lux
ONLY BROKE PEASANTS DRIVE THE SAME HIGH END CAR EVERY DAY !
THOSE LOW END PEOPLE SHOULD BE BANNED FROM BUYING FERRARIs etc.
I have a 2017 Levante that I purchased as a lease return with CPO and extended warranty. It was $88k new but I picked it up for $44k after 3 years and 27k miles when it was lease returned. Extended warranty until 2026 or 97k miles was $2400. I've had a few minor issues but all covered under warranty. CPO and warranty is for sure the way to go.
All Maserati's connect you mechanically with the road for a real driving experience. Porsche probably being the only other marque offering this. BMW, Lexus, Mercedes are too light and spongy now for my liking with their electronic steering systems
u had a really good deal!
Thanks for info!
I had a Maserati Ghibli SQ4 GranSport. It was literally falling apart, so I had to visit a Maserati dealer for repairs almost on a monthly basis. Turbines needed to be replaced 2 times, I had issues with a muffler, brakes, A/C, wheel arches, bottom on the car, speed gauge, etc. I gave up and sold this piece of garbage when--a few months after the entire engine was replaced (it died on a highway with no warning)--the newly replaced (!) engine showed the "check engine" warning indicator. By the way, Maserati did not provide me with a loaner car when they were replacing the engine, so I had no car for more than a month. The worst car I have ever owned.
Wow, that sucks. Sorry to hear that
That's weird. Maserati in Newport Beach gave me a 2023 Ghibli Modena loaner for 2 weeks while they waited for a part
@@paulyg1741 They do not have enough loaners, so I did not get one because my engine died without any prior warnings. But the point is not a loaner - the point is their terrible "quality" requiring endless repairs.
@@alexkovkov433 must have had one built on a friday!!
@texascityrc8660 Haha. Good catch! But then, I guess, most of them are built on Fridays, as they are known for their poor quality 😀
I would take a Maserati over a range rover. I know a guy that is the service manager for a range rover/Volvo/lotus dealership. I asked him how fantastic the range rovers are because they are very expensive so that must mean they are excellent vehicles. He laughed. He said he would take a Volvo with 200,000 miles on it before he would take a new range rover. He said. every range rover they sell, comes back to the service department on a flatbed sooner or later..
Was considering a Ghibli and glad I watched this. Very informative. Had to wonder though, how the dealership allowed you too to point out so many M issues while walking back and forth across the lot. Maybe the last couple of minutes saved the day ;-0
They are very cool cars indeed and represent an insane value on the used market
Scotty Kilmer says that if you want an exotic or a European car, it's best to lease one. That way you're not stuck with an endless money pit when the warranty expires.
Thanks a bunch for watching
You are right buddy. They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
I drove a Ghibli SQ4. I bought it slightly used. In my experience, it's a VERY reliable car. Way more reliable than the Jaguar XF I traded in for it. BUT, when it does need repair out of warranty, or even maintenancen in warranty, it's very expensive. My insurance wasn't near $3k a year. I found out literally by accident that Italy apparently has more stringent safety standards than the US. (A pillar of the comminity stole a car and ran a red light doing 80. I met him in the middle of the interesction. I opened my door and got out. The fire department used the jaws of life to extricate his remains from the Ford he stold) I replaced it with an Infiniti Q50 Red Sport, again slightly used, which performs better 0-60 on paper, but it's not even close in actual peformance.
If jaguar reliability is your hurdle for reliability.....
Well, I was having a Grecale delivered this morning. But after retting info on maintenance cost suck as this video, I’ve changed my mind
I had two older models (2003 Quattroporte and 2011 Grancabrio). Never had big troubles. Great to drive. Miss them.
I do love the sound Mark
It sounds spectacular
Someone I know had a 10 year old grand turismo with 100,000 miles until it got flooded. Didn't sound like the car gave that person much trouble, but they were pretty wealthy.
They are actually not terribly unreliable and a lot of this is assumption and reputation. They are pricey thought to fix, that’s legit.
@@ECPP person i know who had one wasn't married so i guess they didn't really care about the cost of the repairs
Very coherent review as ever, thank you.I think owning my Mercedes C63 is as extravagant as I want to go but the Maserati is a beautiful thing.
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
Yes it’s a serious financial
Committment
Thank you I'm not going to buy Maserati today, changed my mind....
Haha,, so e cool cars especially the Gran turismo
I was sitting in front of a Maserati dealer ready to negotiate my next car, but after watching your vid I'm heading back home...
I understand that...wanted one for about a minute! lol
Buy a Porsche! A Porsche is a buy you will be happy with
@hillbillyflipper3843 especially the one with manual stick
I don't watch many car videos....this guy is entertaining and has great information.
I appreciate that!
Where i live Maserati levante are selling for 35k and the ghibli are selling for 19k-27k.
Great content!
Thank you
What!!? … no mention of the arguably most unreliable, yet sexiest four-door luxury sedan ever made?!! Although I can’t quite ever remember what that 4-door car was called…. Maserati, you gotta love them. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching g
Quarteporte
Ghibli
My father-in-law has a quadraportte, and it's been in the shop more than on the road. Nice car, ran smooth as glass when it top condition but you let the maintenance slip or you let it sit for an extended period, you might as well park it at a ship and come back in 2 or 3 months
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
Agree 100%. A good friend of mine has a CR-V with over 300,000 and is still going strong
I came across this video a few weeks ago when looking for information about the Maserati GranTurismo, since I wanted to buy one. Even being from Germany, many of the points you refered to are similar here, except the used price. I was interested in a 2014 - 2015 model. In USA the average price of such an used Maserati GranTurismo is about US$ 40,000 while here in Germany it is about US$ 77,000. As you see the depreciation is not as high as in USA and because of that I imported a car from USA to Germany saving me around US$ 25,000. Regarding the maintenace cost, one has to have in mind that we are speaking about a luxury car or brand, which typically will have luxury maintenance cost. Here in Germany the labour service cost are similar to a Mercedes Benz S-Class which I own as well. Exception are the replacement parts that in many cases also in Germany are about 2 -3 times higher as my Mercedes Benz S-Class. On the other hand I have to say that a service intervall every 2 years or 12500 miles is very nice and contributes to lower the TCO. Right, the insurance may be horrible and here in Germany Maserati has an offer of about US$ 2500 / year regardless your driving availability. That is very fair considering that other insurances may go up to US$ 6000 / year. If one studies the market one may get an insurance down to US$ 1200 like I found. Last but not least, realability. Unfortunately Maserati had a bad time when they produced the BI-Turbos. That motor was horrible and even bankrupted the company due to tremendous warranty claims. The italian goverment in those days decided to buy Maserati and placed it under FIAT / FERRARI. From there on the quality improved dramatically and today I consider it to be at a level of my Mercedes Benz S-Class.
It's not about deprecation, we have stupid taxes in Europe that makes the new price much higher as well.
@@puciohenzap891 as far as I can see the new prices in USA are comparable to those here in Germany.
I knew a guy that had a MAS. I don't know the model, but he said it was 5 grand to change the oil because they had to pull the engine just to change oil.
3-4 yrs ago, the 30k regular maintenance at the dealership shop used to cost $3,500
Wow, yes that’s Ferrari money
My Lexus is like $300 for that! holy cow
@@allenzillmer1917 and it’s free schedule maintenance🤣. But buy what you can afford to keep and love to drive
@@allenzillmer1917LS 430 and GS 300 are the best Lexus ever 😊
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
I have a levante s....i absolutely love it. Bought it off lease on a good deal
So it’s a great drive from your perspective as well. I live the way they drive too
@ECPP it is a quirky piece of Italian Art that provides a driving experience unlike your typical SUV....All the hate comes from poor dreamers who never owned one..
@@darkhorse6770BINGO!
On point as always.
Thanks a lot for the comment
Now I wanna see what kind of issues Lamborghinis and Ferraris have after putting 30,000 miles. Car would probably fall apart haha.
Could it be the depreciation rate is 50% after 5 years and 10% each year after? Quattroporte lose 72% after 5 years. They considered bad cars is their reliability. They are notorious for frequent breakdowns and expensive repairs. They use bespoke parts, which are more difficult and costly to replace than standard parts. Always do your research. Thank you for a great video👍
Thanks Charles, indeed many parts can be pricey, in some models, parts may be cross referenced with many Dodge parts and a ton of money can be saved by doing that. Thanks for the comment
Unless your still stuck in the 2000s, reliability and breaking down is rarely a problem now. Its always the non owners that keep saying that
@@traderzzz123I remember hearing an auto auction dude saying them Maseratis were by far the most problematic Italian cars ever, all of them had problems, big expensive problems, so I figured once the original owner lease ends, they just get sick of it and dump it, then by the 3rd or 4th owner, they likely realize they bought a money pit hungry clunker 🤷♂️
I talked to some European Maserati dudes they were saying basically people are crazy buying Japanese and German cars, but 30 years later, it’s clear who’ll still be on the road
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
They aren’t the high end brand they used to be years ago. Having one a couple of decades ago meant u were wealthy.
Thanks
great channel!
Thanks for the visit
There’s a gorgeous fully sorted 25K mi. Gransport for sale near us. I just don’t understand why it’s been sitting for sale at $25K for so long now.
It’s like 80% of a Ferrari 430 for 10% of the price! A Pontiac GTO with the same mileage goes for more money.
I would love a Ghibli. The lineage and aesthetic actually do make me want to put up with the flaws.
Cool sounding and fun driving
Love our 2009 GranTurismo. Depreciated 90k before I got it. I don’t drive it daily but it’s been two years without leaving me stranded with a couple 4-6 hour road trips. It does need suspension work/tuning and small repairs. Makes up for it with that dramatic 4.7 Ferrari V8 engine. And I like its F1 robotized manual transmission. Thankfully the past owner blew 6 grand on the new clutch before I bought it. But that car makes me smile even after 2 years. I’d pass on the v6 sedans and SUVs. Not worth the depreciation.
PEASANTS LYK YU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH HIGH END CARS !
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY, SO YOU BUY THE CARS CHEAP....
THEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX THE DAMN CAR !
FIX THE DAMN CAR PUNK !
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
Right today, I saw one broken down on a road here in Dubai.
Stay away.
The Maserati Mistral, that one was a car!
My brother in law had one and they are powerful cars. Wanted one because the used ones were so cheap. I’m glad I watched the video first.
Thanks for watching
I have a 2008 gran turismo with 24k miles on it. I would never use it as my daily car. I have a lexus rx350 for that.
Yes it’s more of a special ocassion vehicle
@@ECPP I also pay a lower insurance rate on it as a 2nd vehicle.
Most SMART vehicle owners Drive the higher end * Lexus (highly respectable and bulletproof)....as in (if you gotta be there vehicle) and yes we leave our Ferrari's as Garage Queens & Party Ego machines!
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
This is why I own Toyota Tacomas - the only other vehicle I owned in last 15 years was the Toyota FJ Cruiser. Sadly I sold the FJ - bought it for $36K new and sold it 4 years later with 40K miles for $33K. I'd never buy a vehicle that loses value like a Maserati. They're pretty and all, but money is money.
Lol so you buy one of the least capable worst efficient trucks on the market. I can’t really call it a truck as it can’t tow or haul shit. Tacomas are rot buckets. Thats why you rarely see any in the North. 👬
Btw. If you bought the Maserati used. You would get a hell of a bargain. But again your too smooth brained to buy a real truck.
And btw way if you bought a vehicle 10 years ago and sold it a few years ago. Ofcourse your got great resale value. Most vehicles did. As the Biden inflation economy drove up the ENTIRE used car market.
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
Hell of a guy if you ask me, to let us know on Video right in front of the Dealership! 😂
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What about the Quattroporte? Does it have a poor depreciation rate as well? It’s also one of their historic models..
Love both of mine , if you play gotta play I'm down with loving these cars and my 2
Nice
I had a 2008 Audi V 10 beautiful car but I only had it for just close to the month very bad judgement call on my part two modules once together they want to just over 12,000 K to be repaired it cut out Quite a few times when I was turning into an intersection I would have to put it in neutral and restart it so I ended up taking it back to the dealer I do not think they are good investment especially used
Wow that is unfortunate, but I would generally say they usually are pretty reliable. Maybe that’s why it was on the lot. Perhaps a trade
Sorry to hear that.....from Benz Guy
my friend had one and I'll never forget how happy he was when he got it. one of his happiest days was when some other sucker bought it. the car was always in the shop. terrible cars.
What type of issues?
@@ECPP this was about 10 years ago. i don't remember but it was a lot of stuff. i rode in it a few times and the car sounded incredible.
Great video
Any car in which the ecm will malfunction and cause the car to stop and go in park mode is a huge risk to your life. Not worth it even if they gave the car for free.
That’s fair
Beautiful car I'll wait til I'm able to not worry about maintenance 😂
They are expensive when brand new. They are cheap when are used. However, the maintenance, and parts will be expensive and money pit for life. My 2021 Honda CR-V AWD (fully loaded trim). It's a great vehicle, reliable, durable, comfy, great handling and traction in any type weather conditions here in the Ohio winters, good in gas, very low maintenance costs, and will last over 200,000 with normal maintenance.
Though I haven't owned newer one's, I always had excellent luck with my 1991 Alfa Romeo 164L and 1987 Bertone (Fiat) X1/9. They were both tough as nails, though they were much simpler cars with all Bosch electronics and fuel injection.
Thanks for sharing!
I’ve had a number of Maseratis and I feel like this is overstated. The Levante has been very reliable. The biggest issue is maintenance. People don’t keep up with these cars. They don’t understand how to fix them. I have an ‘84 Quattroporte as a daily driver, how many ‘84 cars do you see of any make out there? Purrs like a kitten. I’m not crazy about some of the newer models though. They are going electric soon anyway and will be irrelevant as a result at least to me.
I’ve never seen an 84 Quattroporte in my life until searching for an image of one after reading this comment. Beautiful car!
Many nice cars of the era were destroyed during Cash 4 Clunkers, etc.
@@JoJoJoker They are actually pretty easy to fix. Alejandro DeTomaso ran Maserati then and used lots of American parts. The suspension was all copied straight from the Jaguar XJ. Electronics are Bosch, same as VW and Porsche. Transmission is a Chrysler Torqflite 727. There are Fiat parts and Mercedes parts and so on. The pain is just figuring out what will fit. No computers or limp mode or sensors that vex me on my newer cars, just plain mechanical stuff that’s easy to figure out. Glad you like it.
I want a Quattoporte III. I have for years. I recently sat in a project car and the driver's seat was like it was made of stone. Is there adjustments? I have never sat in a seat that was so hard, except maybe a vintage ex military Power Wagon. It had an unusual black interior, not the usual cow grained colored one.
@@auteurfiddler8706 The black interior suggests it may have been switched out at some point. Nearly all are orange-brown. There are some white interiors but they are rare. They had some Arab state orders that had different colors and the late Royale models had sone options. None had hard seats though. They are extra padded and very comfy unless something is wrong. They have electric adjustment in/out and the back angle. Sounds like you found one that had been fiddled with.
@@noserly I wondered about the interior being switched but I seem to recall some talk on the boards about black being available. The bigger problem is that it is missing the engine. How would I ever find one?
Some people choose Maserati because they want something special. I wanted that and chose a Jaguar (XF, X250, LCI). It's gorgeous inside and out, and more wallet-friendly.
That’s exactly why, I agree. Not everyone wants an Audi A4 or a Lexus IS . There is something interesting about these low volume cars
Jaguar, Range Rover, and Maserati - ALL PILES OF JUNK - Cheap Quality - " High end cars"
@@Stanging84coming from a Maserati Quattroporte V8 owner that’s not the case at all. I’ve got all the other marks. Mercedes, Porsche, Corvette and Ferrari. And I love our Maserati. The dealership level of service is spectacular. It’s always fun going to get ours an oil change so I can look at all the new Maserati and Ferrari models at the dealership. And not have to be around a lot of losers like in Chevrolet, Toyota or Ford for example with there awful service and sales “representatives”
I dislike having to go to Chevrolet to service my Corvette because of that. My last Vette. Much of these illogical ideas come from people who have never owned a recent Maserati. Only thing that I saw on the video that is correct is yes parts are expensive when needed. But this was a $150,000 car when new on average. So will be the costs to maintain a 7 series or S Class and Audi A8. They i hear are terrible. Insurance for us is $425 per year. Clean record. Oil change is under $200 or something not too much.
The noise from the engine and exhaust makes up for any costs associated.
@@Stanging84 That's not my experience with my Jaguar. Quality is good, it's a solid car, and I had Audi, Mercedes and currently own a BMW (E63, LCI), so that I can compare. If you feel good uttering clichés, suit yourself.
Ok.....hand me the keys for MERCEDES BENZ....and thanks
Got a Quattroporte…55k miles…will put abt 3k per year in it…..WAS NEROUS, but now PETRIFIED!…getting my warranty asap….😊
Thanks for watching
When you said "hell yeah" I instantly became a Maserati fanatic
Owned by Stellantis, so straight from the Chrysler/Dodge parts bin they emerge. If you put aside the petty annoyances with ownership, like the horrible fit and finish of the interior, the unreliability, the huge cost of repairs and maintenance, the lack of service centers, and the fact that your auto insurer will see dollar signs, you can toss $30k at one of these and rue the day you were born.
Haha, that’s an awesome comment. There are challenges, but that’s where cars like the GT are more authentic than say, the Ghibli
I love my levante..I can't find fault with it..and I've been a mechanic fir 40 years and engine rebuilder..of course these cars are not for everyone..and a few pieces of switchgear are from stellantis..but these cars are beautiful.and a nice to drive long distances..as far as insurance goes..mine was no different from my sierra pickup
I think I would not be so reluctant to buy a European car again if I was a mechanic with 40 years experience, but true..these cars are not for everyone. I like the style and look of the car, but the unreliability with the used ones is why people get rid of them.
@@kurtjammer9568
Old maserati ferrari engine ❤ New Maserati fiat engine, overprice garbage . 😢
Until you own a levante and check it out I wouldn't comment..people that are not licenced mechanics need to stop bashing the brand..go get your licence..rebuild a few engines .look inside the v6 like I did..used car salesmen lol
Trick question right??
Look great, sound great...when they work. Money pit outside of the warranty. Even worse than the late model Alfa Romeo's...
Cheers
I have had one for a few years now. A Quattroporte V8 and it’s always worked. Never once just didn’t start. It’s not this “Money Pit” you are claiming it is. Mine is outside of warranty in addition we have nothing scary expensive go wrong with it.
What you have got to like understand is these cars with options over $150,000 new and you are going to pay when it eventually needs a part here and there more than Mercedes or BMW costs for parts. But newer Benz and BMW need and require way more parts than any Maserati as they are a lot more complex and computer controlled in addition to having way more plastics which melt around the engine compartments. I have 2 Mercedes’ also a Ferrari and a Porsche among others and I enjoy driving something comfortable yet spacious for a family of 4 and with a lot of style and class. Luxurious fine Italian leather everywhere inside our car. That it’s beauty makes the car stand out in a sea of almost common Mercedes, Lexus and BMW that are now as ugly as sin made out of plastic everywhere that leaks like crazy as does an Audi.
Never would we consider ever driving or buying a crappy Ford, Chevy, or Boring as sin Toyota or Nissan. Just today when I visited the Dentist office I got a hello MR Maserati from the receptionist and said they wanted to come and work with me what ever I do. How beautiful the car was. Young beautiful Women look at me when I drive the car. When I put the Boerboel in the back of the car wow gorgeous dog and look drives a Maserati. Just last Friday. I never get that with my other cars. My Ferrari it’s just stares no talking. But if you get off on paying $50 at the Toyota or Chevy dealer for an oil change… suit yourselves. But we only live once. The Italians have it right with how they approach everything in life 🇮🇹
I have a maserati ghibli do all work my self great car guys dramatic. How about rent one do work yourself.any car is expense when you bring it to dealership
I see alpha Romeo"s all over Pittsbugh area ? Does any one know why it's so popular here ? What about maintainance ?
@@violetlightburst oh you mean “Alfa” and not Alpha…
Well the reason Alfa’s are popular is because they are not the overly complex technological nightmares that the main German competition like BMW, Mercedes & Audi are. That’s why people are seeing that and buying more Italian brands. My Maserati has been way less expensive than an equivalent Mercedes S Class or BMW 7 series to maintain because that it doesn’t have the needless electronic gadgets that the Germans have and way more fun as a result. It feels and sounds spectacular not like driving a fridge or a dishwasher.
It's amazing to me that the Maserati dealer even allowed him on their dealership lot. Perhaps he was there early, before they opened.
I from Boston and we have 2 dealers and I have my my Ghibli for 4 year and no problem maybe I’m lucky and yea the insurance is super expensive for that car I pay $850 a month 😅
I'm from England, and love all your video's... Thank you! I would defo use you video's and advice when considering what car to buy next... it won't be a Maserati! lol
Glad you like them! Yes the Masi is something for a specific buyer and Ferrari cost without the same level of branding.
If I buy a used Maserati SUV in decent condition and only drive it like 5-10 miles per day will it hold up for few years without a major failure or is it too risky?
I am sure it will be fine I have seen a few used ones locally with 60-90000 miles
Im glad i watched this video before i wrote the check for mine. Thank you.
Oh hey, this was filmed in my city! Cool! I didn't know we had a Maserati dealership
I own my 2016 Gran Turismo, the F136 V8 is very reliable as is the ZF 6 speed Auto, however the electronics are of the typical Italian variety.
This is my 4th Italian car in the last 15 years.
Probably cheaper here than in Italy 😂
I would probably agree
Hoovie`s Maserati SUV pre-owned by a drug dealer never had oil change was very reliable in rescuing his Cartrek offroad adventure. I have a 2008 GranTurismo which I call the GM small block of Italy, it is big bucks if anything breaks, but I expect that engine and transmission to go forever!
That’s sort of how I see them as well. Fairly reliable but very pricey
Driving Maseratis for 7 years, hurts to say but you had good points. Insurance is about 7k a year, with clean record. Annual maintenance is about 2k on average. You can’t do oil change only at the dealer. One oxygen sensor cost me $1300. You get the point. But I love Maserati.
Why can’t you do your own oil change? It’s very simple.
@@FanceyClanceyHe’s paying 1.3k for a sensor I don’t think he minds lol. But for someone who DOES mind, how hard is it to work on a GT
I got a maserati ghibli for 15k only had 70k beautiful car do all work my self its alot easier to work on then other masseti models
Hows it holding up now?Considering purchasing one.
Same here , considering but I don’t know if it’s worth it
Auto equivalent of the Italian supermodel - beautiful, rare, expensive to maintain, likely unreliable and best appreciated from a distance! Well, maybe :)
Right on!
They have a bad reputation....
Subscribed. Great information - I wanted to learn more about them so thanks for sharing!
Can you report on older masseratis? Are they less problematic?
I believe there are import options but I believe reliability challenges have always been a thing. I still love those Gran Turismo’s, so cool
I had a 08 GT and it was very reliable. I bought it with 14k miles and sold it with 28k. I did dread of the cam shaft variator ghost (nightmare) and it chattered at 27k. I went into flight mode and sold it for what I paid for it. I'm looking at a later model GT now.
Definitely good to hear. Nice cars
Thanks for making this informative and helpful video 🇮🇹👌🏻
You are most welcome
I can never understand why a legendary Italian name in cars suffer from the same old build quality, fit and finish and electrical problems stereotype. Can’t they take a leaf out of Lamborghini Audi book and get German quality engineers into the picture and resolve these embarrassing issues. Nobody should have to tolerate poor quality build and reliability issues for such an expensive car. It has to be said it is absolutely disgusting for a marque with a legendary racing pedigree stretching back nearly 100 years to be pulling wool over the eyes of potential customers and selling them a car of questionable product quality. They deserve to suffer poor sales if they cannot keep up with customer demand for high quality.
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They are cheap because the cars are junk, I have had 3 of them. After year 3 the car falls apart, all these leases returns are dangerous to buy. Unless you have an independant service guy that can do these cars you will spend $4K to $6K on breaks, my independant guy did them for $1,200. The ball bearings fail around 3-4th year, $6K to $$9K expense (prices are random at dealers they quote you the highest amount and see if you take it. Then they say we will give you a discount when you say no. CROOKS!!!). Any accident is $6K on the low end just for some bumpers. Just avoid this brand, unless you get it for $20K with very low mileage and have a independent shop nearby. Otherwise you will be miserable.
Thanks for sharing and yes a good Indy is alsways worth their weight in gold
Yea good advice from someone that saying he’s stupid enough to have 3 😂😂😂😂😂
You bought 3😳
@@hisinvisibleness-fn8qj leased 2 bought 1.
Buy Toyota and look smart 👍