If farmers prefer the European system over the American business model, perhaps they shouldn't have thrown so much weight behind the Brexit campaign. I used to drive twenty miles to work and twenty miles home, and every farm I drove past had posters saying *"Vote Leave"* on display. Congratulations farmers, you won, get over it.
And here we are in the future. In reality a failed Brexit that has decimated the farming community in the UK. If only we could go back to a life before Brexit
I think the farmers would get more support if they had shouted just as loudly, publicly, about the harms of Brexit as this new tax. Were there any public protests?
@@lizwebstersbfeven Draghi has come out and said the EU is over regulated. It's just that they can't do anything but regulate so. But also and this is most important from my perspective, is that you have relied on legislation to control your farming practice. Even now you are talking about EU controls. Farmers are the professionals in this business and I am sure like NZ the UK must have at least one agriculturally focused University. Professional farmers working with one of these research universities should be at the leading edge of innovation, not sitting back and waiting for EU regulations. We have at least two programmes a week which are showing innovation in farming/ food production. More if you add in the food programmes where they link food production to cooking and eating.
@@peterclareburt4594 Eu regulations are made by the secretaries of state or ministers for agriculture who need the support of their farmers and as such work with them. And there are several agriculturally focused universities in the EU like Weihenstephan, which was the first beer brewing " institution " in Bavaria. The EU NEVER kept the UK away from any innovation or input concerning farming ! But it regulates overproduction and the illegal use of chemicals and fertilizers !! And on top it subsidizes farming to avoid food scarcity !
Let's be absolutely clear here. In the long term, agriculture, farmers, and farming have not benefited from eec, eu membership. Anger towards farmers for voting on their feet based on 50 years of experience, hoop jumping, carrot, and stick politics, and off the scale beurocracy where time and motion means nothing. The subsidies that have been given are a false identity, cleverly disguised as money for nothing. The reality is that farming would not be viable without them. The reason that they are given at all is quite simply so that the public can have cheaper affordable food. Without them in place, food would have to go up at least five times. Farming numbers have seriously declined since we joined the eec. We are at a crossroads now. The problems that farming is going through right now is nothing to do with Brexit or Remain. The inheritance tax on anything is theft by deception. The government will know only too well that farming achieves a 1% return on investment, roughly speaking. A little more in a good year and into a deficit in a bad one! An average 1000-acre farmer will have a working overdraft of one million pounds. The charges will quite obviously be on the farm itself. This is a full-on unprovoked frontal attack disguised as something else. This Labour Party are scumsuckers being spiteful, jealous, hypocritical, dishonest. My late father used to say, "Playing politics with food is foolish in the extreme." If you look at history, it is absolutely true. Starvation causes war and revolution. My generation has never known war, hunger, thirst, or cold. It seems to me that the aforementioned is on the Labour, "To-do list." "All property is theft." (Pierre Joseph Proudhon)
Majority of farmers and fishermen voted for Brexit!!! They believed the lies spewed by previous government esp BoJo which includes hiring of a big red bus to promote the benefits of Brexit... and pushing the blame on immigrants... which post Brexit results in the shortage of agricultural workers, long haul drivers, etc 😅
We did when in the EU and still do massive trade with the USA, mainly on services. However a major trade deal with the USA would be terrible for the UK. Not only would we be bent over the hot coals and screwed good and proper, but you could kiss the NHS goodbye, which would mean having to have incredibly expensive insurance health care. Big Pharma would make a killing. Try watching Americans react to British food standards compared to US food standards, they are shocked and disgusted with what they have to put up with. The USA has over 1000 chemicals and things allowed into there foods that are banned in Europe, so not only would we have to lower our own food standards but we would not be able to sell any of those products brought in from the US on to the EU. Workers rights in the US are terrible when compared to the UK, the list goes on and on. Believe me, the last thing we want is a no holds bared trade deal with the USA, especially when we have the biggest trading bloc on the planet only 23 miles away.
@@paullarne That's the whole point of what I'm saying. The trade we already do with the US is as good as it gets, because the UK and the EU do not want substandard foods, a privatised NHS, terrible workers rights, poor environmental laws etc etc. The reason the EU cannot strike a major trade deal with the US, because no one wants the crap they have over there. 6ltr cars on UK roads with UK fuel prices etc. You're talking rubbish. The EU and US have got the best trade negotiators on the planet, so stop thinking the little old UK is going to get a good trade deal with the US. Also, you always do most of your trade with your closest neighbours. The EU starts just 23 miles away. And as EU members we did do trade with the rest of the world as part of a 450 million people bloc, hence being able to do such strong trading. You buy 10 of something it's this price, you buy a thousand it's a lot cheaper. Get it?
@@paullarne Yes, all of them purchased from Europe, lol. We don't want great big American motors in the UK. Thousands of Americans drive huge Trucks, you do get the odd one or two over here in the UK but they are massive in size and in engine size. I've been a car dealer for the past 45 years and I've exported plenty of cars to the US, never thought it was a good business idea bringing to many of them back this way.
Brexitania farmers are now totally on their own... Brexitfarmers choose Jeremy Clarckson as their leader. What did he said again? “Let Trump bid for Greenland - and Britain too”. From EU perspective it is now let Trump sell farms in Brexitania to corporations. Bye Brexitania farmers... ask Clackson, not EU!
@@lizwebstersbfHe's incredibly bad for the image of your industry. On record as saying he does it for a tax dodge and most recently spouting conspiracy nonsense about weather warnings. Putting him into the "remainer" box just because he used a be less of a crank doesn't tell the whole story. If you want to stand behind him while he plays to an audience that doesn't understand farming beyond what he shows then you'll end up standing with the people who want you doing the most aggressive free market economics against giant American factory farmers. He doesn't really care if his farm does better than break even because he's subsidising it with a TV show and a pub and a shop. You'll lose in the end while his kids sell off the land for houses having avoided a heap of tax. Tax that should have supported you against industry giants you'll be crushed by.
@@lizwebstersbfClarkson as a remainer is totally out of context in this post when he has been caught red handed on radio and TV stating one of his reasons for buying the farm was for tax avoidance. One of the reasons land has got so expensive is because of zero inheritance tax allowing people like Clsrkson and Dyson and many more of what are just landed gentry who own massive amounts of the countryside but keep a lot for shooting and hunting. I live in rural cornwall and much of the local farmland now appears to do very little in the way of producing food.While I agree we all need farmers, well we all need doctors ,nurses the police ,builders, etc.etc and they all pay IHT on the whole estate they live in and some the businesses they may own such as holidays let’s etc. I accept that Farmers have many issues ,we all do and Brexit caused a a lot of problems but was also supported by a small majority and certainly some used their fields to show how much they wanted to leave 😮 I agree that supermarkets do give them a hard time. But that’s a different issue and nothing to do with IHT ,but we don’t see Farmers protesting about the EU directly or blockading Supermarkets🤔I have lived in rural communities for most of my life and know many of the farming community.This is a big issue because it really hits the big players and they have the power to shout the loudest and drive the most expensive tractors and for people that seem to say they have to work 365 days a year they seem to be spending a lot of time off their farms 🤔
@@lizwebstersbfNot every 'remainer' actually has a functioning brain, as Clarkson's other remarks provide ample proof of. And remarks from other 'remainers', the names of whom shall not be mentioned out of politeness. 😎 Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@lizwebstersbf But many do avoid tax in farm land, Jeremy clarkson and James Dyson. Do you not want to tell jezza to shut up as I don’t think he’s doing your cause any good. No one likes a fake man of the people.
@@lizwebstersbfThe rich do not. Or only the stupid rich do. In order to benefit from Monaco's tax exemption one needs to live 183 days per annum in Monaco - who on earth would want to live in this tiny concrete sh*thole? There are WAY better means to invest one's dough .... or 'hide' it, as you call it. Monaco is soooo yesteryearish. 🙄 Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Liz, I am broadly in sympathy with your position, but the tax free inheritance figure is more like £3 million when all allowances are included. However, how would you address the use of agricultural land as a tax avoidance vehicle for the very wealthy, who are not active farmers? I understand that in France, landowners claiming farming relief have to prove that they are indeed farmers, not rentiers.
here in Portugal we produce 82-87 percent of what we eat and have a high end food export business of about 17 billion......our food is insanely good and to a very high standard
Bottom line, American food is crap, packed with fillers etc. But we had brexit, which farmers in the main wanted. Now if we are forced to make a deal with trump, our food standards will similarly plummet. brexit benefits? A union jack on your packed veg. You couldn't make it up. Thanks for nothing farmers.
I strongly supported you when I first subbed, but I am sick of you flirting with far right grifters and constantly whinging and now outright lying about farmers and their cut rate inheritance tax, so I am unsubbing. PS I did tell you multiple times that you were doing your cause more harm than good. {:o:O:}
I unsubscribed a long time ago over her rubbish claims that little brexitannia needs to 'join the SM' - we all know that no effing random 3rd country can join the SM in any imaginable manner. But we 🇪🇺 still need to call her out for her false claims. Other than that: she'd sell her offsprings for 5 minutes in any media.
@@lizwebstersbfthanks for speaking out so much against brexit, its the single biggest thing thats damaged us and causing damage and like wise should be the juiciest low hanging fruit for government to improve things. Unfortunately our media, farage, and Boris johnson etc have made it politically toxic. Media is biggest problem IMHO
@@lizwebstersbf I heard that the big supermarkets are now backing you, that's a bit rich seeing as how they made life impossible for many small British veg producers.
@@edwardbernthal160Because they don't want focus on paying farmers fair prices. It hurts their profits. Doing a press release about how it's tax killing British farming rather than their unwillingness to pay fair prices costs next to nothing. You can bet in their private meetings with ministers they're arguing to increase cheap imports so they can keep prices low.
...Liz...Unfortunately, your approach is wrong. How can I survive as a farmer would be the right question! BRD had been a pioneer for AGRI/energy builders with pilot plants. It then became an EU project: Overview of the potential and challenges for Agri-Photovoltaics in the European Union. The UK government was not interested. That's why GB agriculture is so badly positioned for the future! It may have little chance of keeping up with EU companies in the future! ruclips.net/video/BAM0-SFj6Lk/видео.html
@@lizwebstersbf We seem to be following the likes of Tice and Farage who are both in politics for their own financial benefit, not the countries. A shift further to the right and trading with America will only compound the mess we are already in. When will we wake up!.
@ sadly now many on the left seem to think it’s a good idea to tax our farms into oblivion and ensure corporatisation of food. They’re inadvertently helping ensure Brexit neo feudalism.
I find this whole situation ridiculous, farmers pushed for brexit and are now feeling the consequences and having to pay for it like the rest of us, if you avoid your very small responsibility the rest of us will have to cover it and farmers have had more subsidies than anyone in the past, also that american farmer quoting freedom as to why their crops have more calories is just an absolute joke and one of the few reasons people hate america now and cant take them seriously.
I wish the farmers would come out and shout BREXIT... sadly, they won't, especially those who are the rich tax avoiding land owners. This doesn't help the small family farms.
If the UK government has not kept its promises made to farmers to support them post-Brexit, then that is the fault of the UK government - not Brexit. The whole of the UK should not be assimilated into a pan-European mega-state just so farmers can get their subsidies. Your argument is with the government, not Brexiteers. As for Americans getting fat, I am not surprised. They love fast food and their sweet products are way sweeter than suit our tastes. I live in a farming community and the farmers I speak to are complaining about the government left, right and centre, but they're not complaining about Brexit. You are using farmers as a platform to further your anti-Brexit ideology, Liz.
Hilarious stuff. You Brexshitards had an 80 seat majority in the largely unelected British "parliament". YOU did nothing about it. P.S.: Love it how you keep lying through your English teeth about the "pan-European mega-state" from a "country" that denies Scotland the right to determine its own future and that still occupies part of Ireland.
Solution: nationalise all farmland, and commercial land, and rent it out to farmers and corporations. Half of farmers are already tenant farmers, so lets make them all tenants.
A business that typically produces 2% return on investment is not a business. Food production is important but land prices are too high because of this tax break.
Which is a stated aim of the IHT re-introduction. Up through the 1970s, agricultural land had a low value, much less than £1000 per acre, since it couldn't be used for other purposes. Since changes to the Inheritance Tax rules from the late 1970s (then called Capital Transfer Tax), notably Thatcher in 1984 (IHT), the land value has substantially increased year-on-year, pricing out farmers.
"or the sugar " No, not OR the sugar, it's THE sugar. Every single American recipe had sugar in it. Apart from that. Mighty fine trolling from the American farmer.
I spent a lot of time doing business travel in the entire US, it is push to huge meal portions and the emphasis on processed food, that has caused the issues w.r.t. food and diet issues. Go to a restaurant parking lot in USA, look at the obese people coming out of the restaurant coming out of the restaurant carrying "doggybags" of uneaten food as take home. Food and diet and food production are hugely complicated systems, and making changes requires generational thinking and actions.
First you tell us "everyone that eats is in agriculture" but then the tax and other benefits go to farmers only ? Guess you want the inheritance tax even more reduced or abolished only for farmers and not for the other SMEs you talk about? Lets give that money to the farmers and get it back from the paupers that can barely afford to pay rent wherever they live? They are too poor to buy the farmers products , so they are a failure as customers anyway, right?
@@Ooze-cl5tx food has never been so cheap as percentage of income. Subsidies help consumers. But now govt wants to end subsidising food and leave it to the markets which means paying more for poisonous food.
@@Ooze-cl5tx as percentage of income it’s 9%, 40 years ago that number was over 20%. I realise there is a cost of living crisis but now people are paying more for energy, council tax, housing, water bills etc.
The real issue is the investment firms buying up farms purely to take advantage of the inheritance tax loophole which has also made farms unaffordable for new actual farmers, so attacking the rule change is the wrong target.
@@patrick247two farmers pay tax, if farmers are forced to pay unaffordable IHT, we won’t be returning to the EU as we will be infected with USA standards.
I want to know if there was only inheritance tax if the property is sold, would farmers be happy. Make it the same as my children would have to pay, but its only when you cash in on the farm. Then the fat cats using farms to avoid inheritance tax cannot do so and farmers passing on a farm to the next generation can do so.
If a farm is sold then capital gains tax is payable. If corporations own farms they don’t pay IHT or much tax. Just look at Amazon and new owners of Morrisons.
Problem is you want darms to remain farms and not be a tool to avoid tax and force land prices higher? In other countries they seem to manage , i think uk is too corrupt to make things work these days
@@lizwebstersbf The problem is the Tory's turned a blind eye to this corporate loop hole (well why wouldn't they, there rich friends were using it) and now ordinary farmers have ended getting caught up in all of this.
The Food and Drug Authority (FDA) in the USA only regulates the drug industry, and they largely ignore the USA food industry. So, just about anything goes there. We in the UK are properly regulated. Remember the furore over american clorinated chicken?
liz, Maybe you should get to know the tool used in France since ww2 to ensure the price of land is under control and help young farmers get started, including when they inherit, and need more land. That is called "Safer", and every agricultural piece of land is subject to that. Even in the south of France, 1 square meter is sold at 1 euro on average. And you have commissions involving farmers to ensure it is preferentially sold to farmers, preferentially in the vicinity, and preferentially small owners, not to international corporations. And when a farmer dies, it goes preferentially to the family if anyone s intersted. Then it would go preferentially to other farmers. If noone is interested, then you sell it to whomever . The thing is do farmers in the UK would accept that? I doubt it.
Very well argued Liz, now that I understand the situation better I absolutely support what you are doing. Labour are right to tax wealthy landowners who don't use the land for productive purposes, but I want them to make things easier and more profitable for ordinary family farms (these people should not be hit by these changes). I will write to my MP tomorrow.
Everyone is talking about EU regulation with food quality has little to do with it, animal welfare and cost of energy are far more of an influence, and there are large industrial farms in Europe too just not to the same scale as the US, , The EU CAP is an important part of it, and the farmer here are sorely missing it, but there was an Americanisation of the food system here long before Brexit. I wish I could show you a photo from inside normal French supermarket and an English one, the contrast is staggering.
2:40. I hade to extinguish your illusion that all other governments subsidise their farmers! I Denmark the government tries to shut down farming with unfair taxes. They even use good farmland for their solar energy farms! The fact is that everyone have apparently forgot how important it is to be mainly self supporting regarding food supply. Everybody have forgot WW2 unfortunately.
I am not a farmer. Personally, I don't know any farmers either, so I cannot speak from a sound knowledge base. However, I have experience of being self-employed...both sole-trader and Ltd Company. In my experience, the salary or income of the self-employed is far lower than those tbat are employed! Why? Because much of the expense associated with living can be offset against tax! In reality, the self-employed have the best living standards...whilst earning the least income. Jyst look at the likes of Donald Trump! In the 3 years before he became President for the first time he paid a total of $39 in tax. Was that because he was a pauper? I think not! He simply offset most of his expenses against his income. If the average employee were to be able to offset their mortgage, car, council tax, heating, food, rent, etc against tax, then I think you would find that MOST people would live a very comfortable life ...and yet be earning below minimum wage.
I wonder how much of it is culture too. Probably a lot. Americans go out to eat often, its a thing they do. Its easy to go eat at a fast good place as there are a lot there. Europeans go to argubly better restaurants (as well as fast food) and are more likely to cook at home with the family?
I appreciate that if a farmer sells their property for suburban development, they should be taxed. But it is unfair to tax them on the basis they could do that, when they don't have the means to pay the tax. Basically, this forces farms out of production.
No, the speculation on land is the issue, caused by its zero IHT. The price of farm land was very low up to the late 1970s, since it had no other purposes. When the land reverts to a price commensurate with its economic value, farmers will be able to buy again. Your point about other uses is correct.
@BillDavies-ej6ye Sorry, I don't follow you. If farmers must pay inheritance tax on farms based on market value, they are forced to sell. Even if they take a mortgage, their income cannot pay it. My suggestion was to tax them when they sell the property instead of when they inherit it.
@@nickd4310you need to look at where the value came from. Before the zero rate inheritance tax, the land had a pretty low value. Since the zero rate, "investment" as a tax dodge has vastly increased that value. Even by doing nothing farmers have increasedcthier net with by millions. That's income.
@ They have greater assets, but no value until they sell, but income poor. The market needs resetting, by driving the speculators out. The farms have 10 years to pay the tax, or they can pre-plan by gifting, and it affects the much larger farms. But I'm inclined to agree with you, however this doesn't fix the problem. Other posts point out that businesses with high asset value and very low income are in the wrong business; farmers taking out additional work to cover costs have a hobby. Supermarkets exploit the farmer, I wish this was addressed.
@BillDavies-ej6ye Which raises the question of why the UK grows food at all, when the land could be used for residential, recreational and commercial purposes.
So the richest what the poorest to pay more taxes to subsidise the richest again Farage got a warm welcome from the farmers and clackson who openly said he brought the family farm as a tax Dodge Farage cost the farmers, a fortune in subsidies from the European union yet not one farmer had words with the con man
mate you never left the continent, the UK only left the EU, and that is where the problem is. The UK left but forgot to move the island to the Pacific.
@@klausmohr522😊😂 Griasdi Klaus, liebe Gruesse aus dem Sueden nach .... Schwerte? In Dein tropisches Winterlager? Hier die letzten Tage eher April als Winter, nicht dass ich deswegen rumjammere.
The following is out of an article focused on NZ farming. But i don't see that this differs in supplying that demand from any farming community. What I hear from the UK farmers is " this is how we have farmed for generations, and now we don't have a subsidy" NZ farmers are looking at changing up to new systens tgat produce more, and are working towards climate friendly solutions, snd they haven't been subsidised for more than a decade. "As the global population continues to surge, predicted to reach 9.8 billion (an increase of more than 25% from 2020) by 2050, the demand for Food and Fibre production is set to soar to unprecedented levels. New Zealand’s agriculture sector is feeding approximately 40 million people globally, however there is increasing pressure to boost production by 70% by 2050 to feed the world while also facing the pressure of climate change and other challenges. This dramatic surge in demand, coupled with the urgent need to address environmental concerns and resource scarcity, requires a paradigm shift."
There is no one reason, but a few would be that mass and over-production in the USA means food is cheaper to buy, hence portion sizes are far bigger. Then you have the type of foods, more red meat, more cheeses - especially those loaded with additives. The reliance of fast-food, again, huge amounts of salt and additives, many of which have negative side effects for prolonged use. The psychology of eating as a coping mechanism for mental health issues, or poor diet control due to working environments. People are also stigmatised into eating certain foods over others - the vilification of veganism for example. Foods with sugars and sugar replacements, often just as bad as the sugars they were intended to replace. In the UK, supermarkets have an overwhelming market power against farmers, driven by greed and consumerism. The present system is unsustainable and the likely future with super-farms run by large corporations does not appeal either. If we want to control farming properly, we need to nationalise it and treat it like the NHS - though I say this guardedly because the government and any successive governments need to protect farming like they do with national security - no foreign influences, ensure crops are grown in proportion to the country's requirements, not simply for profit. And none of that will be easy to implement and maintain.
There is no shortage of fat people in Europe, its not as bad as the UK because they were slower to introduce MacDonalds etc. But its nothing to do with Brexit, however a trade deal with the USA would be great. Clothes and shoes are, on average, 20-25 per cent cheaper in the US than the UK. An iPhone 15 pro that sells from £1,000 in Britain retails for about £800 stateside. In America, an entry level car, such as a Toyota Corolla, costs the equivalent of £16,000. In the UK, the same car would cost about £30,000. Petrol is $0,80 a ltr in the US and $1.72 in the UK. Energy costs are only 25% of what we pay. The UK is poorer than Mississippi the poorest US State. The best thing we could do is become the 51st State of the US.
@@lizwebstersbfFun fact: the British 🇬🇧 already were the most obese European nation even when they were a member of the EU 🇪🇺. How do you explain this fact? I'd wager the amount indeed matters, plus the overindulgence in booze. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
I don't understand the problem... The UK has trade agreements with Australia and NZ, they are part of CPTPP. Who cares, if farming dies in the UK. NZ has more than enough sheep, Australian beef is very likely better than the British anyway... and much cheaper. The UK has lost many industries before, and the managed to replace it with other, more profitable industries like financial services. It will be the same with farming. Face reality, farming in the UK is dead.
Tax payers don't donate to farmers in the USA. Needless to say they are highly productive they use a lot of automation. Expensive plant and equipment works 24/7/365. In return the Government recognises the value their farmers create and don't over-regulate it like the eu. That way the most cost efficient and the most consumer choice exists. We need more of that in the UK and less of fat, lazy, subsidised eu practises. Go Trump. MAGA
............. "In 2019, farms received $22.6 billion in government payments, representing 20.4% of $111.1 billion in profits." "WASHINGTON, Sept. 27, 2023 - The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) today announced that it will begin issuing more than $1.75 billion in emergency relief payments to eligible farmers and livestock producers." Source: USA Facts and Fed Gov -- Just for the fun of it --- "Lies have short legs "-- we use to say over here
@@Harryset1 Fair comment, except that there is a difference. Since 1949 the average Government support has been only 1.4% of farm income. This in the main payments for natural disasters which would happen in the UK but would not be considered a subsidy. The other main area is for crop insurance premiums (the US has a different insurance market to the UK which is why those people in California can't get fire insurance) so the government is forced to ensure that crops can be insured and the third main area of government support is in loans to farmers, which again can occur in the UK but is not treated as a subsidy. There are genuinely some small subsidies made for environmental grounds, but these are very targeted and about behaviour change as oppose to being an annual payment to support failing business. We are not comparing apples with apples as we say over here!
@@hughbasham4389 DIRECT payments to farmers: .............. As for his question, who else could get that much money for farmers, the answer is: the Biden administration. In fact, over the first three years of their presidencies, Biden and Trump’s payments to farmers are virtually identical: A POLITICO analysis found that both men authorized nearly $57 billion in direct federal payments to farmers over that time span. Nearly half of Trump’s total $109 billion in direct payments were delivered in his final year, 2020, when USDA paid farmers more than $52 billion, an unprecedented sum since USDA began recording farm payment da Source: US gov. and - in this case "Politico". BTW:Do you think that the shiny new over heavy tractors they use are NOT payed by the US taxpayer? US farmland - US farmers are owned by the various ""corporate" groups - and you know this fact?
@@simonmilton5201Thanks to Brexit, we 🇪🇺 see less of them these days 😊. I personally count that as one of our 🇪🇺 Brexit benefits. Greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺
If farmers prefer the European system over the American business model, perhaps they shouldn't have thrown so much weight behind the Brexit campaign. I used to drive twenty miles to work and twenty miles home, and every farm I drove past had posters saying *"Vote Leave"* on display.
Congratulations farmers, you won, get over it.
And here we are in the future. In reality a failed Brexit that has decimated the farming community in the UK. If only we could go back to a life before Brexit
I think the farmers would get more support if they had shouted just as loudly, publicly, about the harms of Brexit as this new tax. Were there any public protests?
@@jannuary831 this is Brexit they’re shouting about. Brexit was always about escaping eu regulations which limit monopolies.
@@lizwebstersbfeven Draghi has come out and said the EU is over regulated. It's just that they can't do anything but regulate so.
But also and this is most important from my perspective, is that you have relied on legislation to control your farming practice. Even now you are talking about EU controls.
Farmers are the professionals in this business and I am sure like NZ the UK must have at least one agriculturally focused University.
Professional farmers working with one of these research universities should be at the leading edge of innovation, not sitting back and waiting for EU regulations.
We have at least two programmes a week which are showing innovation in farming/ food production. More if you add in the food programmes where they link food production to cooking and eating.
@@peterclareburt4594 Eu regulations are made by the secretaries of state or ministers for agriculture who need the support of their farmers and as such work with them.
And there are several agriculturally focused universities in the EU like Weihenstephan, which was the first beer brewing " institution " in Bavaria.
The EU NEVER kept the UK away from any innovation or input concerning farming ! But it regulates overproduction and the illegal use of chemicals and fertilizers !! And on top it subsidizes farming to avoid food scarcity !
Let's be absolutely clear here. In the long term, agriculture, farmers, and farming have not benefited from eec, eu membership.
Anger towards farmers for voting on their feet based on 50 years of experience, hoop jumping, carrot, and stick politics, and off the scale beurocracy where time and motion means nothing.
The subsidies that have been given are a false identity, cleverly disguised as money for nothing. The reality is that farming would not be viable without them. The reason that they are given at all is quite simply so that the public can have cheaper affordable food. Without them in place, food would have to go up at least five times.
Farming numbers have seriously declined since we joined the eec.
We are at a crossroads now. The problems that farming is going through right now is nothing to do with Brexit or Remain.
The inheritance tax on anything is theft by deception.
The government will know only too well that farming achieves a 1% return on investment, roughly speaking. A little more in a good year and into a deficit in a bad one!
An average 1000-acre farmer will have a working overdraft of one million pounds. The charges will quite obviously be on the farm itself.
This is a full-on unprovoked frontal attack disguised as something else.
This Labour Party are scumsuckers being spiteful, jealous, hypocritical, dishonest.
My late father used to say,
"Playing politics with food is foolish in the extreme."
If you look at history, it is absolutely true.
Starvation causes war and revolution. My generation has never known war, hunger, thirst, or cold. It seems to me that the aforementioned is on the Labour, "To-do list."
"All property is theft." (Pierre Joseph Proudhon)
Majority of farmers and fishermen voted for Brexit!!! They believed the lies spewed by previous government esp BoJo which includes hiring of a big red bus to promote the benefits of Brexit... and pushing the blame on immigrants... which post Brexit results in the shortage of agricultural workers, long haul drivers, etc 😅
Because EU people eat sensibly. USA are geeedy.
We did when in the EU and still do massive trade with the USA, mainly on services. However a major trade deal with the USA would be terrible for the UK. Not only would we be bent over the hot coals and screwed good and proper, but you could kiss the NHS goodbye, which would mean having to have incredibly expensive insurance health care. Big Pharma would make a killing. Try watching Americans react to British food standards compared to US food standards, they are shocked and disgusted with what they have to put up with. The USA has over 1000 chemicals and things allowed into there foods that are banned in Europe, so not only would we have to lower our own food standards but we would not be able to sell any of those products brought in from the US on to the EU. Workers rights in the US are terrible when compared to the UK, the list goes on and on. Believe me, the last thing we want is a no holds bared trade deal with the USA, especially when we have the biggest trading bloc on the planet only 23 miles away.
@@paullarne That's the whole point of what I'm saying. The trade we already do with the US is as good as it gets, because the UK and the EU do not want substandard foods, a privatised NHS, terrible workers rights, poor environmental laws etc etc. The reason the EU cannot strike a major trade deal with the US, because no one wants the crap they have over there. 6ltr cars on UK roads with UK fuel prices etc. You're talking rubbish. The EU and US have got the best trade negotiators on the planet, so stop thinking the little old UK is going to get a good trade deal with the US. Also, you always do most of your trade with your closest neighbours. The EU starts just 23 miles away. And as EU members we did do trade with the rest of the world as part of a 450 million people bloc, hence being able to do such strong trading. You buy 10 of something it's this price, you buy a thousand it's a lot cheaper. Get it?
@@paullarne Yes, all of them purchased from Europe, lol. We don't want great big American motors in the UK. Thousands of Americans drive huge Trucks, you do get the odd one or two over here in the UK but they are massive in size and in engine size. I've been a car dealer for the past 45 years and I've exported plenty of cars to the US, never thought it was a good business idea bringing to many of them back this way.
There are places in Northern Ireland where you can cross the road and be in any EU country. Never mind about 22 miles.
@@davidprovan2250 Well said.
Brexitania farmers are now totally on their own... Brexitfarmers choose Jeremy Clarckson as their leader. What did he said again? “Let Trump bid for Greenland - and Britain too”. From EU perspective it is now let Trump sell farms in Brexitania to corporations.
Bye Brexitania farmers... ask Clackson, not EU!
@@Brexitopia Clarkson is a remainer. Clarkson’s farm is actually very good at explaining farming. Lots of people love it.
@@lizwebstersbf Ready to take orders from your new orange corporation manager?
@@lizwebstersbfHe's incredibly bad for the image of your industry. On record as saying he does it for a tax dodge and most recently spouting conspiracy nonsense about weather warnings. Putting him into the "remainer" box just because he used a be less of a crank doesn't tell the whole story. If you want to stand behind him while he plays to an audience that doesn't understand farming beyond what he shows then you'll end up standing with the people who want you doing the most aggressive free market economics against giant American factory farmers. He doesn't really care if his farm does better than break even because he's subsidising it with a TV show and a pub and a shop. You'll lose in the end while his kids sell off the land for houses having avoided a heap of tax. Tax that should have supported you against industry giants you'll be crushed by.
@@lizwebstersbfClarkson as a remainer is totally out of context in this post when he has been caught red handed on radio and TV stating one of his reasons for buying the farm was for tax avoidance. One of the reasons land has got so expensive is because of zero inheritance tax allowing people like Clsrkson and Dyson and many more of what are just landed gentry who own massive amounts of the countryside but keep a lot for shooting and hunting. I live in rural cornwall and much of the local farmland now appears to do very little in the way of producing food.While I agree we all need farmers, well we all need doctors ,nurses the police ,builders, etc.etc and they all pay IHT on the whole estate they live in and some the businesses they may own such as holidays let’s etc. I accept that Farmers have many issues ,we all do and Brexit caused a a lot of problems but was also supported by a small majority and certainly some used their fields to show how much they wanted to leave 😮 I agree that supermarkets do give them a hard time. But that’s a different issue and nothing to do with IHT ,but we don’t see Farmers protesting about the EU directly or blockading Supermarkets🤔I have lived in rural communities for most of my life and know many of the farming community.This is a big issue because it really hits the big players and they have the power to shout the loudest and drive the most expensive tractors and for people that seem to say they have to work 365 days a year they seem to be spending a lot of time off their farms 🤔
@@lizwebstersbfNot every 'remainer' actually has a functioning brain, as Clarkson's other remarks provide ample proof of. And remarks from other 'remainers', the names of whom shall not be mentioned out of politeness. 😎
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Never forget that there are many type of farms and in the UK many rich hide their money in farming...
In most Europe we do not eat the USA food? Why because we want to be heathy.
@@Paul-p1p6m the rich hide their money in Monaco.
@@lizwebstersbf But many do avoid tax in farm land, Jeremy clarkson and James Dyson. Do you not want to tell jezza to shut up as I don’t think he’s doing your cause any good. No one likes a fake man of the people.
@@lizwebstersbfThe rich do not. Or only the stupid rich do.
In order to benefit from Monaco's tax exemption one needs to live 183 days per annum in Monaco - who on earth would want to live in this tiny concrete sh*thole?
There are WAY better means to invest one's dough .... or 'hide' it, as you call it.
Monaco is soooo yesteryearish. 🙄
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@@lizwebstersbf and British tax havens .....
Liz, I am broadly in sympathy with your position, but the tax free inheritance figure is more like £3 million when all allowances are included. However, how would you address the use of agricultural land as a tax avoidance vehicle for the very wealthy, who are not active farmers? I understand that in France, landowners claiming farming relief have to prove that they are indeed farmers, not rentiers.
here in Portugal we produce 82-87 percent of what we eat and have a high end food export business of about 17 billion......our food is insanely good and to a very high standard
Bottom line, American food is crap, packed with fillers etc. But we had brexit, which farmers in the main wanted. Now if we are forced to make a deal with trump, our food standards will similarly plummet. brexit benefits? A union jack on your packed veg. You couldn't make it up. Thanks for nothing farmers.
Corn Syrup.
I strongly supported you when I first subbed, but I am sick of you flirting with far right grifters and constantly whinging and now outright lying about farmers and their cut rate inheritance tax, so I am unsubbing.
PS I did tell you multiple times that you were doing your cause more harm than good.
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I unsubscribed a long time ago over her rubbish claims that little brexitannia needs to 'join the SM' - we all know that no effing random 3rd country can join the SM in any imaginable manner.
But we 🇪🇺 still need to call her out for her false claims.
Other than that: she'd sell her offsprings for 5 minutes in any media.
Hear hear.
Campaign for better prices, not inheritance tax
How can we can get better prices with cost of living and Brexit reality?
@@lizwebstersbfthanks for speaking out so much against brexit, its the single biggest thing thats damaged us and causing damage and like wise should be the juiciest low hanging fruit for government to improve things. Unfortunately our media, farage, and Boris johnson etc have made it politically toxic. Media is biggest problem IMHO
@@lizwebstersbf I heard that the big supermarkets are now backing you, that's a bit rich seeing as how they made life impossible for many small British veg producers.
@@edwardbernthal160Because they don't want focus on paying farmers fair prices. It hurts their profits. Doing a press release about how it's tax killing British farming rather than their unwillingness to pay fair prices costs next to nothing. You can bet in their private meetings with ministers they're arguing to increase cheap imports so they can keep prices low.
...Liz...Unfortunately, your approach is wrong. How can I survive as a farmer would be the right question! BRD had been a pioneer for AGRI/energy builders with pilot plants. It then became an EU project: Overview of the potential and challenges for Agri-Photovoltaics in the European Union. The UK government was not interested. That's why GB agriculture is so badly positioned for the future! It may have little chance of keeping up with EU companies in the future!
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The Farmer's biggest mistake was getting Clarkson involved, they lost a lot of support there.
Don't forget all the processed junk "food" that Americans eat.
"Farmers are having to get a second job" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 More ROLLOX!.
@@paulbird3235 really they do, especially smaller farms ie less than 1000 acres.
@@lizwebstersbf Liz you really must focus on a couple of issues, and stop flip flopping all over the place. The problem is brexit, stick with it!.
@ I have been saying the same things for 9 years. Brexit always destroyed food. That should concern us all.
@@lizwebstersbf We seem to be following the likes of Tice and Farage who are both in politics for their own financial benefit, not the countries. A shift further to the right and trading with America will only compound the mess we are already in. When will we wake up!.
@ sadly now many on the left seem to think it’s a good idea to tax our farms into oblivion and ensure corporatisation of food. They’re inadvertently helping ensure Brexit neo feudalism.
Do people really believe we will "lose our farms" WHAT ROLLOX!.
You already are Pal.....Grow a pair and say Bollocks !
I find this whole situation ridiculous, farmers pushed for brexit and are now feeling the consequences and having to pay for it like the rest of us, if you avoid your very small responsibility the rest of us will have to cover it and farmers have had more subsidies than anyone in the past, also that american farmer quoting freedom as to why their crops have more calories is just an absolute joke and one of the few reasons people hate america now and cant take them seriously.
I wish the farmers would come out and shout BREXIT... sadly, they won't, especially those who are the rich tax avoiding land owners. This doesn't help the small family farms.
@@neecierussell595 this issue is Brexit
@lizwebstersbf Was that on the news? I didn't see any mention of brexit, only saw and heard about the Inheritance tax
@@lizwebstersbf Make the most of it out is out. Plenty of farmers supported Brexit. Or were all the signs in the fields just there by mistake.
It's the commercial culture, go to a diner and you will be served huge double portions and charged twice as much the European equivalent...
Liz used to like you youve changed
If the UK government has not kept its promises made to farmers to support them post-Brexit, then that is the fault of the UK government - not Brexit. The whole of the UK should not be assimilated into a pan-European mega-state just so farmers can get their subsidies. Your argument is with the government, not Brexiteers. As for Americans getting fat, I am not surprised. They love fast food and their sweet products are way sweeter than suit our tastes. I live in a farming community and the farmers I speak to are complaining about the government left, right and centre, but they're not complaining about Brexit. You are using farmers as a platform to further your anti-Brexit ideology, Liz.
Hilarious stuff. You Brexshitards had an 80 seat majority in the largely unelected British "parliament". YOU did nothing about it. P.S.: Love it how you keep lying through your English teeth about the "pan-European mega-state" from a "country" that denies Scotland the right to determine its own future and that still occupies part of Ireland.
Portion sizes is why USA are more affected inflation..Eat half safe money and get slim..
They also make people vote for Trump
Correct, because an overdose of (harmful) chemicals in food actually effects intellectual capabilities.
Solution: nationalise all farmland, and commercial land, and rent it out to farmers and corporations. Half of farmers are already tenant farmers, so lets make them all tenants.
lower standards in USA yet more expensive????/
America is the land of excess, including excess profits. Trading heavily with America would be our road to ruin.
They have the "freedom" to speculate on food.
Coffee and orange is a known classic, but everything food that can be exported is speculated upon.
If you eat to much EU food you get fat too. But the possibillity to get cancer is smaller isn't it ?
More saturated fats
No traffic light system
The portions they eat are twice as big as European portions.
A business that typically produces 2% return on investment is not a business.
Food production is important but land prices are too high because of this tax break.
Which is a stated aim of the IHT re-introduction. Up through the 1970s, agricultural land had a low value, much less than £1000 per acre, since it couldn't be used for other purposes. Since changes to the Inheritance Tax rules from the late 1970s (then called Capital Transfer Tax), notably Thatcher in 1984 (IHT), the land value has substantially increased year-on-year, pricing out farmers.
"or the sugar "
No, not OR the sugar, it's THE sugar.
Every single American recipe had sugar in it.
Apart from that. Mighty fine trolling from the American farmer.
I spent a lot of time doing business travel in the entire US, it is push to huge meal portions and the emphasis on processed food, that has caused the issues w.r.t. food and diet issues.
Go to a restaurant parking lot in USA, look at the obese people coming out of the restaurant coming out of the restaurant carrying "doggybags" of uneaten food as take home.
Food and diet and food production are hugely complicated systems, and making changes requires generational thinking and actions.
First you tell us "everyone that eats is in agriculture" but then the tax and other benefits go to farmers only ?
Guess you want the inheritance tax even more reduced or abolished only for farmers and not for the other SMEs you talk about?
Lets give that money to the farmers and get it back from the paupers that can barely afford to pay rent wherever they live?
They are too poor to buy the farmers products , so they are a failure as customers anyway, right?
@@Ooze-cl5tx food has never been so cheap as percentage of income. Subsidies help consumers. But now govt wants to end subsidising food and leave it to the markets which means paying more for poisonous food.
@@lizwebstersbf "food has never been so cheap" go around and tell that to the people, but i suggest you wear a helmet and other protective gear.
@@Ooze-cl5tx as percentage of income it’s 9%, 40 years ago that number was over 20%. I realise there is a cost of living crisis but now people are paying more for energy, council tax, housing, water bills etc.
@@lizwebstersbfdon't you dare use average income in this.
It's not average income that have to use food banks.
@@lizwebstersbfdon't you dare use average income in this.
It's not average income that have to use food banks.
Great Liz 😃👏👏👍
The real issue is the investment firms buying up farms purely to take advantage of the inheritance tax loophole which has also made farms unaffordable for new actual farmers, so attacking the rule change is the wrong target.
Corporate greed.
@@matthewcook9404 exactly
Pay your tax. Rejoin the EU.
@@patrick247two farmers pay tax, if farmers are forced to pay unaffordable IHT, we won’t be returning to the EU as we will be infected with USA standards.
@@lizwebstersbf Well then, you need to follow the example set by New Zealand when the UK joined the EU.
Pay their tax is right, joining the EU not a chance neither wanted or needed. Out is out.
Hello Liz. Ractopamine is in pig meat and beef in the USA for leaner faster fattening meat. It’s banned in EU and 122+ other countries
I want to know if there was only inheritance tax if the property is sold, would farmers be happy. Make it the same as my children would have to pay, but its only when you cash in on the farm. Then the fat cats using farms to avoid inheritance tax cannot do so and farmers passing on a farm to the next generation can do so.
If a farm is sold then capital gains tax is payable. If corporations own farms they don’t pay IHT or much tax. Just look at Amazon and new owners of Morrisons.
Problem is you want darms to remain farms and not be a tool to avoid tax and force land prices higher?
In other countries they seem to manage , i think uk is too corrupt to make things work these days
@@lizwebstersbf Capital gains tax is so much lower than income tax.
@@lizwebstersbf The problem is the Tory's turned a blind eye to this corporate loop hole (well why wouldn't they, there rich friends were using it) and now ordinary farmers have ended getting caught up in all of this.
On Tyranny by Tim Snyder is Trumps playbook
The Food and Drug Authority (FDA) in the USA only regulates the drug industry, and they largely ignore the USA food industry. So, just about anything goes there. We in the UK are properly regulated. Remember the furore over american clorinated chicken?
liz, Maybe you should get to know the tool used in France since ww2 to ensure the price of land is under control and help young farmers get started, including when they inherit, and need more land.
That is called "Safer", and every agricultural piece of land is subject to that.
Even in the south of France, 1 square meter is sold at 1 euro on average. And you have commissions involving farmers to ensure it is preferentially sold to farmers, preferentially in the vicinity, and preferentially small owners, not to international corporations.
And when a farmer dies, it goes preferentially to the family if anyone s intersted. Then it would go preferentially to other farmers. If noone is interested, then you sell it to whomever .
The thing is do farmers in the UK would accept that?
I doubt it.
Very well argued Liz, now that I understand the situation better I absolutely support what you are doing. Labour are right to tax wealthy landowners who don't use the land for productive purposes, but I want them to make things easier and more profitable for ordinary family farms (these people should not be hit by these changes). I will write to my MP tomorrow.
Everyone is talking about EU regulation with food quality has little to do with it, animal welfare and cost of energy are far more of an influence, and there are large industrial farms in Europe too just not to the same scale as the US, , The EU CAP is an important part of it, and the farmer here are sorely missing it, but there was an Americanisation of the food system here long before Brexit.
I wish I could show you a photo from inside normal French supermarket and an English one, the contrast is staggering.
Hurrah for Liz Webster! 🎉😊
Public support so farmers don't have to pay tax.
2:40. I hade to extinguish your illusion that all other governments subsidise their farmers! I Denmark the government tries to shut down farming with unfair taxes. They even use good farmland for their solar energy farms! The fact is that everyone have apparently forgot how important it is to be mainly self supporting regarding food supply. Everybody have forgot WW2 unfortunately.
I am not a farmer. Personally, I don't know any farmers either, so I cannot speak from a sound knowledge base. However, I have experience of being self-employed...both sole-trader and Ltd Company. In my experience, the salary or income of the self-employed is far lower than those tbat are employed! Why? Because much of the expense associated with living can be offset against tax! In reality, the self-employed have the best living standards...whilst earning the least income. Jyst look at the likes of Donald Trump! In the 3 years before he became President for the first time he paid a total of $39 in tax. Was that because he was a pauper? I think not! He simply offset most of his expenses against his income. If the average employee were to be able to offset their mortgage, car, council tax, heating, food, rent, etc against tax, then I think you would find that MOST people would live a very comfortable life ...and yet be earning below minimum wage.
Good you are using the minority report in the intro, a fine channel 👍
I wonder how much of it is culture too. Probably a lot. Americans go out to eat often, its a thing they do. Its easy to go eat at a fast good place as there are a lot there. Europeans go to argubly better restaurants (as well as fast food) and are more likely to cook at home with the family?
Because US food isn’t.
I appreciate that if a farmer sells their property for suburban development, they should be taxed. But it is unfair to tax them on the basis they could do that, when they don't have the means to pay the tax. Basically, this forces farms out of production.
No, the speculation on land is the issue, caused by its zero IHT. The price of farm land was very low up to the late 1970s, since it had no other purposes. When the land reverts to a price commensurate with its economic value, farmers will be able to buy again. Your point about other uses is correct.
@BillDavies-ej6ye Sorry, I don't follow you. If farmers must pay inheritance tax on farms based on market value, they are forced to sell. Even if they take a mortgage, their income cannot pay it. My suggestion was to tax them when they sell the property instead of when they inherit it.
@@nickd4310you need to look at where the value came from.
Before the zero rate inheritance tax, the land had a pretty low value.
Since the zero rate, "investment" as a tax dodge has vastly increased that value.
Even by doing nothing farmers have increasedcthier net with by millions. That's income.
@ They have greater assets, but no value until they sell, but income poor. The market needs resetting, by driving the speculators out. The farms have 10 years to pay the tax, or they can pre-plan by gifting, and it affects the much larger farms. But I'm inclined to agree with you, however this doesn't fix the problem.
Other posts point out that businesses with high asset value and very low income are in the wrong business; farmers taking out additional work to cover costs have a hobby. Supermarkets exploit the farmer, I wish this was addressed.
@BillDavies-ej6ye Which raises the question of why the UK grows food at all, when the land could be used for residential, recreational and commercial purposes.
What about 48 years of subsidies liz
Drugs and injections in food from day 1says a lot no hygiene check
Very interesting programme on BBC 4 just now about farming in Australia.
All those chemicals
So the richest what the poorest to pay more taxes to subsidise the richest again Farage got a warm welcome from the farmers and clackson who openly said he brought the family farm as a tax Dodge Farage cost the farmers, a fortune in subsidies from the European union yet not one farmer had words with the con man
BREXIT = UK ECONOMY COLLAPSE
Nonsense!
UK farmers are whiny.
European farmers have kicked off a few times. The Uk is no different.
Liz. Is the font of commonsense
We want uk back in the Eu...back in the continent
mate you never left the continent, the UK only left the EU, and that is where the problem is. The UK left but forgot to move the island to the Pacific.
We 🇪🇺 do not. And we 🇪🇺 decide.
Buy yourself Maltese citizenship if you're that desperate.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
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Griasdi Klaus, liebe Gruesse aus dem Sueden nach .... Schwerte? In Dein tropisches Winterlager?
Hier die letzten Tage eher April als Winter, nicht dass ich deswegen rumjammere.
We don't want them back in the EU!
@@EllieD.Violet That´s all you tend to do ...everywhere.
Because it is full 0 vitamins.
The following is out of an article focused on NZ farming. But i don't see that this differs in supplying that demand from any farming community.
What I hear from the UK farmers is " this is how we have farmed for generations, and now we don't have a subsidy"
NZ farmers are looking at changing up to new systens tgat produce more, and are working towards climate friendly solutions, snd they haven't been subsidised for more than a decade.
"As the global population continues to surge, predicted to reach 9.8 billion (an increase of more than 25% from 2020) by 2050, the demand for Food and Fibre production is set to soar to unprecedented levels. New Zealand’s agriculture sector is feeding approximately 40 million people globally, however there is increasing pressure to boost production by 70% by 2050 to feed the world while also facing the pressure of climate change and other challenges. This dramatic surge in demand, coupled with the urgent need to address environmental concerns and resource scarcity, requires a paradigm shift."
Nz govt spends fortune subsidising export market for food. Also nz is massive oversupply. We have entirely different challenges
There is no one reason, but a few would be that mass and over-production in the USA means food is cheaper to buy, hence portion sizes are far bigger. Then you have the type of foods, more red meat, more cheeses - especially those loaded with additives. The reliance of fast-food, again, huge amounts of salt and additives, many of which have negative side effects for prolonged use. The psychology of eating as a coping mechanism for mental health issues, or poor diet control due to working environments. People are also stigmatised into eating certain foods over others - the vilification of veganism for example. Foods with sugars and sugar replacements, often just as bad as the sugars they were intended to replace. In the UK, supermarkets have an overwhelming market power against farmers, driven by greed and consumerism. The present system is unsustainable and the likely future with super-farms run by large corporations does not appeal either. If we want to control farming properly, we need to nationalise it and treat it like the NHS - though I say this guardedly because the government and any successive governments need to protect farming like they do with national security - no foreign influences, ensure crops are grown in proportion to the country's requirements, not simply for profit. And none of that will be easy to implement and maintain.
There is no shortage of fat people in Europe, its not as bad as the UK because they were slower to introduce MacDonalds etc. But its nothing to do with Brexit, however a trade deal with the USA would be great. Clothes and shoes are, on average, 20-25 per cent cheaper in the US than the UK. An iPhone 15 pro that sells from £1,000 in Britain retails for about £800 stateside. In America, an entry level car, such as a Toyota Corolla, costs the equivalent of £16,000. In the UK, the same car would cost about £30,000. Petrol is $0,80 a ltr in the US and $1.72 in the UK. Energy costs are only 25% of what we pay. The UK is poorer than Mississippi the poorest US State. The best thing we could do is become the 51st State of the US.
eu food makes people fat too.
Could it be because they eat more
@@kevinbrown5737 watch the video - it’s their food.
@lizwebstersbf pass
@@lizwebstersbfFun fact: the British 🇬🇧 already were the most obese European nation even when they were a member of the EU 🇪🇺.
How do you explain this fact?
I'd wager the amount indeed matters, plus the overindulgence in booze.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
I don't understand the problem... The UK has trade agreements with Australia and NZ, they are part of CPTPP. Who cares, if farming dies in the UK. NZ has more than enough sheep, Australian beef is very likely better than the British anyway... and much cheaper. The UK has lost many industries before, and the managed to replace it with other, more profitable industries like financial services. It will be the same with farming. Face reality, farming in the UK is dead.
Thx Kemi.
There's probably a whole lot more that you don't understand.
Tax payers don't donate to farmers in the USA. Needless to say they are highly productive they use a lot of automation. Expensive plant and equipment works 24/7/365. In return the Government recognises the value their farmers create and don't over-regulate it like the eu. That way the most cost efficient and the most consumer choice exists. We need more of that in the UK and less of fat, lazy, subsidised eu practises. Go Trump. MAGA
............. "In 2019, farms received $22.6 billion in government payments, representing 20.4% of $111.1 billion in profits."
"WASHINGTON, Sept. 27, 2023 - The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) today announced that it will begin issuing more than $1.75 billion in emergency relief payments to eligible farmers and livestock producers."
Source: USA Facts and Fed Gov --
Just for the fun of it ---
"Lies have short legs "-- we use to say over here
@@Harryset1 Fair comment, except that there is a difference.
Since 1949 the average Government support has been only 1.4% of farm income. This in the main payments for natural disasters which would happen in the UK but would not be considered a subsidy. The other main area is for crop insurance premiums (the US has a different insurance market to the UK which is why those people in California can't get fire insurance) so the government is forced to ensure that crops can be insured and the third main area of government support is in loans to farmers, which again can occur in the UK but is not treated as a subsidy. There are genuinely some small subsidies made for environmental grounds, but these are very targeted and about behaviour change as oppose to being an annual payment to support failing business. We are not comparing apples with apples as we say over here!
@@hughbasham4389 DIRECT payments to farmers:
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As for his question, who else could get that much money for farmers, the answer is: the Biden administration.
In fact, over the first three years of their presidencies, Biden and Trump’s payments to farmers are virtually identical: A POLITICO analysis found that both men authorized nearly $57 billion in direct federal payments to farmers over that time span.
Nearly half of Trump’s total $109 billion in direct payments were delivered in his final year, 2020, when USDA paid farmers more than $52 billion, an unprecedented sum since USDA began recording farm payment da
Source: US gov. and - in this case "Politico".
BTW:Do you think that the shiny new over heavy tractors they use are NOT payed by the US taxpayer?
US farmland - US farmers are owned by the various ""corporate" groups - and you know this fact?
Have You Seen British People??!
Yes,many are fat and stupid.....They got the Brexit Sir !
@@simonmilton5201Thanks to Brexit, we 🇪🇺 see less of them these days 😊.
I personally count that as one of our 🇪🇺 Brexit benefits.
Greetings from Bavaria 🇪🇺
"Make America Great Again",bit like "World Beating" in the UK !
MAGA .... real meaning: Morons Govern America Again. 😊