Did South Africa's coaches blow it against Ireland?

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • ▪️ The 7-1 split
    ▪️ The kicking problems
    ▪️ The substitutions
    Did South Africa's coaching team blow it against Ireland? And if they meet again, will the Springboks be favourites?
    Watch the Six Nations and Rugby World Cup live on Virgin Media Television.
    Subscribe to our page for more:
    Follow us on Twitter - / vmsportie​​​​​​​​
    Follow us on Instagram - / vmsportie
    Like us on Facebook - / vmsportie
    Follow us on TikTok - / virginmediasport
    #Springboks #RSAvIRE #IrishRugby #Rugby #RWC2023 #SouthAfrica #MunsterRugby #LeinsterRugby #UlsterRugby #ConnachtRugby #Ireland #RugbyWorldCup #EnglandRugby #RassieErasmus #AndyFarrell

Комментарии • 383

  • @rupertmoon78
    @rupertmoon78 11 месяцев назад +56

    Worth bearing this in mind. Kolisi is still coming back from a long term injury and this is only his third game back. Etzebeth was also injured in the Scotland game and was thus a doubtful starter for this test too. Those could be valid reasons for pulling them both early.

    • @bryanantolik9900
      @bryanantolik9900 11 месяцев назад +9

      That’s more than a theory, they are managing kolisi and etzebeth, both had concerns around injury in the first two games, they had to go off. This is a pool game.

    • @Titanium351
      @Titanium351 11 месяцев назад +9

      Those are valid points

    • @davidpearn2484
      @davidpearn2484 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's history, concentrate on new Zealand

    • @michaelodonnell824
      @michaelodonnell824 11 месяцев назад +2

      When you pick Seven forwards four days before the match, you PLAN on withdrawing seven starting forwards, irrespective of whether they are having a great match or not...
      Moreover, despite having a replacement on the bench, Ireland CHOSE to play Andrew Porter for over 74 minutes...
      I have a feeling that Erasmus & co, plan when and who they will replace long before kickoff...

    • @jakestone954
      @jakestone954 11 месяцев назад

      Dan Sheehan will be back we win the line outs from now on

  • @nlb741
    @nlb741 11 месяцев назад +66

    Matt has issues with SA….. Rassie is in his head 😂😂😂😂

    • @jonathandavis8599
      @jonathandavis8599 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee yet here you are online being salty about Saffa fans being Salty.

    • @yoe91
      @yoe91 11 месяцев назад

      What ? His conclusion is South Africa would've won that game if not for some tactical mistakes.

    • @JoseStev
      @JoseStev 11 месяцев назад

      Matt is very extreme in his language always. It’s a show he’s putting on for the 💸💸💸

    • @RazorMouth
      @RazorMouth 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@jonathandavis8599 online on the channel of Irelands second national tv station 😂
      Do you know where you are?

    • @jdQuinnn
      @jdQuinnn 11 месяцев назад +1

      Nah,Matt is right on this occasion.Not kicking into the corners,from 50m out, was stupid.When we did eventually do it,we almost scored.Rassie's not all that bright.

  • @victorsnyder9293
    @victorsnyder9293 11 месяцев назад +29

    I love how Matt hates South Africa but he cant really say it 😂but it shows. Go bokke 🇿🇦

    • @pretoriarider7462
      @pretoriarider7462 11 месяцев назад

      Your probably one off those who piss and moan aboit the government but when someone else hate sa,then u have a lot to say😄🤗😇

    • @victorsnyder9293
      @victorsnyder9293 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@pretoriarider7462
      Brave assumption, I don’t do politics + in comparison to other countries with similar challenges our government and society has made a lot of progress
      Proud South African here 🇿🇦

    • @pretoriarider7462
      @pretoriarider7462 11 месяцев назад

      @@victorsnyder9293 if u say so,30 years ago no loadshedding,30 years ago no high ceime rate,30 years ago saa one of the top 5 airlines i dont think they exiat now,i think u c what u wanna c lol,i think me and you have different opinions on progress,but keep hoping you will get there brave person🤭

    • @victorsnyder9293
      @victorsnyder9293 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@pretoriarider7462 lol many countries are worse of than 30 years ago, Canada, USA,China, Germany, France, the list goes on, I cant speak for 60 million people but my life in SA is pretty good, I dont focus on the outside noise because it leads to negativity ( you’re a prime example) leave the country then 😂
      What has this to do with Matt Williams though??

  • @mikecl8803
    @mikecl8803 11 месяцев назад +42

    Great chat, but as a springbok supporter, we got a long road ahead of us, I'm tired of the what ifs and only ifs, Ireland beat us on the day, they an awesome team that will not be easy to win against, both Ireland and South Africa have still got to go a long way before we start thinking of finals, the road is not an easy one, and given that there are other teams that can win on any given day, I'm still nervous, hell who knows springboks may not make it out the pool stages, there are quite a few very good teams that can become heroes on any given day. One game at a time, my focus is Tonga as a supporter, and depending what happens between Ireland and Scotland, and what happens in the other groups, then my focus as a supporter is France then will take it one game at a time, this world cup is full of teams that could surprise anyone on any different game day. But I'm fed up with mainly my countryman saying we lost because we missed the kicks, hope the realise the whole dynamic of game would have changed, from a kick off to positional play, getting one kick over, would that result in is getting the other opportunities, or would it change the game that Ireland got more opportunities. My boks are awesome, that's my team, but so are many other teams.

    • @mikecl8803
      @mikecl8803 11 месяцев назад +6

      We had an awesome team in 2015 and we lost to Japan. Who knows what will happen on the day, best teams in the world won't win if your not mentally prepared, I think the boks are, but also I think Ireland are too. You don't lose 2 games in 28 matches playing the best teams and medium teams is the world if you not up to it mentally, so give respect where it's due.

    • @washerdryer3466
      @washerdryer3466 11 месяцев назад +2

      Well said.

    • @salomonligthelm14
      @salomonligthelm14 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah mate. Agreed, a measured take from a Bok support! I love that! Bok supporter here too! Long road ahead…every game ahead a massive challenge!

    • @noahdaniels7103
      @noahdaniels7103 11 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂 Ireland was cheating with ref go see replay with how that game was referred. .. we still going to take cause everybody hate us but we are going to use that to get us that cup

    • @weximan1
      @weximan1 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well said

  • @AdamSpenceVC
    @AdamSpenceVC 11 месяцев назад +11

    😂😂😂 Matt hates the 7-1 split. Rassie has really got under his skin

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад +1

      everyone hates the 7/1 split because we just use it so damn well. Think about it.....a coach from a little country in Africa has world-renowned pundits talking about bench players as the main topic. You cannot make this stuff up

  • @AC-hu3xk
    @AC-hu3xk 11 месяцев назад +19

    Matt Williams the Joker of the Rugby World Cup 😅😅😅

    • @JOATMOFA
      @JOATMOFA 11 месяцев назад +2

      He is like an adult that missed out on childhood - acting like someone took his toys?

    • @glen1482
      @glen1482 11 месяцев назад +1

      Even the way he talks is irritating

  • @Darren_S
    @Darren_S 11 месяцев назад +7

    I can't believe Matt was talking good about the Boks lol

    • @BenWoods2000
      @BenWoods2000 11 месяцев назад

      @@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee I went through almost all the comments and not one of them threatened violence in any way. People expressed their opinion on his opinion which they have every right to do as long as it doesn't threaten anyone. You are taking a small portion of fans and grouping a whole fanbase with the same cloth. You can do that with Irish fans as well.

    • @sivuyilemtsi9840
      @sivuyilemtsi9840 11 месяцев назад

      I was very impressed with his comments. There are comments that are prejudging him, but I feel he was very fair and neutral.

  • @basildavidson4597
    @basildavidson4597 11 месяцев назад +15

    It’s not over until the final has been played. I love it that Ireland are the favourites. Let them live up to the hype.

    • @washerdryer3466
      @washerdryer3466 11 месяцев назад +1

      Ireland and SA are joint favourites right now. Do your research. Can SA handle the pressure? They didn't really in that loss.

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 11 месяцев назад +1

      In fairness im Irish and havent heard anyone hype on TV or people were not that way, we are just trying to get past the quaters ATM.

    • @craigweideman6194
      @craigweideman6194 2 месяца назад

      @@washerdryer3466 can they handle the pressure? 4 world cups says they can

  • @MikeSmuts
    @MikeSmuts 11 месяцев назад +4

    Me thinks the South African coaches knew exactly what they were doing. We didn't quite throw the game, but we prioritized high risk, long shots and experimentation above winning at all cost. The players didn't hold back, but I strongly suspect the coaches knew they were weighing down the team with some of their decisions. In short I'm quite happy to rather meet a injury-ridden France in the quarter-finals, rather than the AB's. I suspect the Springbok management feels the same way.

    • @Gworiam3000
      @Gworiam3000 11 месяцев назад +1

      Spot on. I don't understand why people that claim to be knowledgable in rugby (i.e pundits) just can't see this. But I guess we all view things differently. I think alot of the deciseion making from the Springboks camp was intentional.

    • @jamesconroy6609
      @jamesconroy6609 11 месяцев назад +2

      Could say the same thing about Ireland - we went for line outs when we knew it’s been problematic for us recently and also a strength for the Boks. Both teams were sussing each other out, don’t deny it.

    • @MikeSmuts
      @MikeSmuts 11 месяцев назад

      @@jamesconroy6609 sounds reasonable

  • @user-nx8sy6je5z
    @user-nx8sy6je5z 11 месяцев назад +3

    South Africa didn't want to win the game, to avoid facing New Zealand in the quarter finals...

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 11 месяцев назад

      But France destroyed New Zealand in the second half, even with injuries France at home and won by 14 points!

    • @user-nx8sy6je5z
      @user-nx8sy6je5z 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@_alienblood I would rather play France over New Zealand in the quarter finals,trust me.

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-nx8sy6je5z but france destroyed Zealand in the second half 2 weeks ago

  • @abongilenonkelela7726
    @abongilenonkelela7726 11 месяцев назад +3

    South Africa 🇿🇦 living rent free in Matt Williams head 😅😅😅😅

  • @darrellw.matodes6898
    @darrellw.matodes6898 11 месяцев назад +4

    Guys...both South Africa and Ireland still have to play qfinals...its a different pressure..different game. NZ..is going to be a very difficult game for Ireland...

    • @darrellw.matodes6898
      @darrellw.matodes6898 11 месяцев назад

      @@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee they will thrash Italy. Not so sure Ireland will beat scotland..buy more than likely will. Depends on the team.Farrell puts out.

    • @washerdryer3466
      @washerdryer3466 11 месяцев назад

      And SA fans don't even want to think about France. 😉😉

    • @darrellw.matodes6898
      @darrellw.matodes6898 11 месяцев назад

      @@washerdryer3466 SA fans don't care they have just as good of a chance to beat France...easily...just as Ireland.may have a chance of beating NZ. ..it's all on the day

    • @washerdryer3466
      @washerdryer3466 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@darrellw.matodes6898 Beat France easily? Dream on.

    • @darrellw.matodes6898
      @darrellw.matodes6898 11 месяцев назад

      @@washerdryer3466 well...doubt the Irish will have it easy either...my bet is they going home.

  • @frankkelleher8301
    @frankkelleher8301 11 месяцев назад +9

    Well, in another video, Matt predicted that France will hammer the Boks. Seems unlikely to me. We now have two games to see how the Bok strategy evolves, so some of these questions will be resolved before the final.

    • @jonathandavis8599
      @jonathandavis8599 11 месяцев назад

      Only good thing Matt did was inventing KFC. Other than that he sucks.

    • @RazorMouth
      @RazorMouth 11 месяцев назад +2

      France in Paris? Good luck 👍

    • @jacobking3211
      @jacobking3211 11 месяцев назад

      Jesus said, "I tell you the truth no one will see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me." For God so loved the world that He give His only Son that whoever believes in Him will not perish but will have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but to save the World through Him. For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord, and All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. " If you want to be sure of Heaven and avoid the other place below say the following prayer sincerely from your heart." Lord Jesus I repent and am sorry for my sins forgive me. I forgive all who have offended me.I believe you died and Rose again .Come into my heart and save me. I accept you as my Lord and Saviour. Fill me with your Holy Spirit and baptise me with your Holy Spirit. Fulfill your plan and purpose in my life. "I recommend you read John's Gospel especially chapter 3.Gbu.John 3v3v22,John 14v6.

    • @thomasrodwell563
      @thomasrodwell563 11 месяцев назад +1

      @frankkelleher8301
      One of the few things Matt is right about. No one's beating France, except maybe Ireland

    • @RazorMouth
      @RazorMouth 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@thomasrodwell563 I don't think SA will beat France either even without Dupont.
      They will throw the kitchen sink and the whole stadium at them.

  • @ledgebag224
    @ledgebag224 11 месяцев назад +2

    Do you think Rob and Matt have scuffles off camera?

  • @tyronedejager2202
    @tyronedejager2202 11 месяцев назад +6

    Part of the plan, guys. SA played a way more expansive game, and it was a learning test, a gamble. It will be different next time.

    • @Sean-ek5jz
      @Sean-ek5jz 11 месяцев назад

      'part of the plan'... what, to lose? delusional

    • @LeMerch
      @LeMerch 11 месяцев назад

      So that’s two loses in the last few months against Ireland. I guess it’s all part of the MASTERPLAN 😂

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@LeMerch At the end of the day it doesn't matter if a team wins all of their games before a world cup. Who lifts the trophy, walks away with all the pride and prestige. Same as the last WC. SA sucked in a lot of games building up to the world cup and they won it. Does it benefit Ireland to say they won all the matched but lost the world cup? Rassie is not an idiot that will kick for posts at 55m out without a goalkciker if he really needed to win the match. There are waaaaay more moving parts than we think. But congrats to Ireland. You still beat the boks

    • @quentinadkins432
      @quentinadkins432 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeeeSA did play 15 man when they usually play 10 man in tight games.
      To illustrate: Ireland play expansive game? Yes? Scored 1 try.
      How is it then SA scored a try by the winger? Expansive? Yes.
      What is the goal here? To win RWC. The winner of this game does not lift trophy but wants to
      Its a pool game
      1 or 2 on log determines QF opponent against pool where AB's loss to France was unlikely a month before rwc.
      Both teams had questions to answer preferred SA to win sentimentally but the underdog tag after SA feel is better. Ireland have the favourites tag.
      Congrats to them on this game. Was awesome rugby.

  • @andrewmakin8151
    @andrewmakin8151 11 месяцев назад +3

    in the bigger scheme of things, obviously no disrespect to ireland, but they simply played a role for the springboks.
    SA got what they wanted from winning the first few ireland lineouts, then backed off before showing too much,
    didn’t maul at all because nothing to learn or test, but definitely not wanting to show anything of a primary weapon until the time is right,
    which is why they kicked for poles and not the line, because nothing to loose within the purpose of this game.
    siya off ‘early’ to protect him also because nothing to loose.

  • @bongumusazondi8098
    @bongumusazondi8098 11 месяцев назад +2

    It seems to me South Africa took this game as free hit, the strange decision to kick for goal 50m out and not go for the corner tells me that Rassie and Jacque wanted to try new things - they wanted to win, but in certain way.

  • @hvacdesignsolutions
    @hvacdesignsolutions 11 месяцев назад +4

    If Ireland can overcome Scotland and NZ, then i'll dare to dream. Until then, let's stop talking about a final.

    • @michaelodonnell824
      @michaelodonnell824 11 месяцев назад

      I'm fully with you there...
      I've been here too many times before, when Ireland beat a favoured team in the pool...
      And no one in Ireland is unaware that we have never made it past the quarter finals...

    • @user-eb7wv5wt3j
      @user-eb7wv5wt3j 11 месяцев назад

      NOPE I'M NOT FROM NZ BUT I THINK THEY GONNA BEAT THE IRISH, I CAN FEEL IT IN MY BONES, IT'S ABOUT PRIDE.

    • @Kevin-lf4xx
      @Kevin-lf4xx 11 месяцев назад

      It’s too late , people in Ireland are already getting carried away with everything.

    • @user-fw3le4xf3j
      @user-fw3le4xf3j 11 месяцев назад

      Dream on. there’s no chance. The fact is Ireland won’t get to the Semi’s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂i can wait to see the comments on the sore loser Irish😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @nuthajason
    @nuthajason 11 месяцев назад +1

    the ball was out on the last maul. ref messed up.

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 11 месяцев назад +1

    First problem for South Africa was that they only have one Hooker in their squad.
    In picking the squad, Erasmus & co decided to take only two Hookers. When Marx got injured, that left them with one. They could have decided to call up another Hooker, but instead chose to call up Pollard, who isn't even a forward.
    Question here is, what will SA management do if Mbonambi gets injured early in their last pool match? Choose to go into the quarter finals with NO HOOKER?
    The second thing to note is that Libbock isn't a bad kicker (against NZ in Twickenham, he kicked conversions for fun). Libbock rather is (currently) an inconsistent kicker. Moreover, as Jonny Sexton pointed out, EVERY kicker, no matter how experienced, goes through periods of inconsistency.
    In their previous match against Scotland, when it became clear that Libbock wasn't as accurate with his kicking, de Klerk took over the kicking duties, though NOT from inside his own half. We also need to remember that despite his place kicking issues, against Scotland Libbock got Player of the Match, and no one disagreed with that decision.
    The biggest issue facing South Africa is that while Libbock is, by far, the best outhalf they have, he isn't, currently, a reliable kicker. So if you bring Pollard in, while you may gain place kicking reliability (Pollard averages 75%), you lose all the other skills Libbock can provide...
    And the SA coaches decided, before the Tournament started, that Libbock's ball playing skills were the way forward...
    Do they change tack now?

  • @PrinceAsh327
    @PrinceAsh327 11 месяцев назад +3

    Never clicked so fast to watch a video... As a Springboks fan seeing Matt William's face and "South Africa" in the title. Can't wait for his negative comments.

  • @felixlieter1429
    @felixlieter1429 11 месяцев назад +3

    Fef de Klerk said after the game "that was fun". I tink losing d game ment very little to SA. I tink SA lost d game themselves rather than been beaten by Ireland.

  • @JOATMOFA
    @JOATMOFA 11 месяцев назад +1

    Matt Williams was head coach of Scotland and they won only three games out of 17 under his tenure - against Tier 2 nations Japan and Samoa in 2004, and against Italy in the 2005 Six Nations.
    After his role as Scotland coach, Williams was sacked as Scotland head coach in April 2005 having the worst win percentage of any Scottish permanent head coach, with Scotland's results immediately picking up with the arrival of new coach Frank Hadden, a former schoolteacher - WikiPedia

  • @donjohn2065
    @donjohn2065 11 месяцев назад +3

    Rassie is a genius!

  • @elduderino3236
    @elduderino3236 11 месяцев назад

    This is a great discussion. Bok fan here and I agree with pretty much all the points raised - yes, even Matt! Cheers

  • @davidpeters3857
    @davidpeters3857 11 месяцев назад +2

    Pollard was always coming back,just needed time to prove his fitness behind the scenes,I’d say Siya came off,as he has just returned from a serious injury ,so his game time is heavily monitored,surely Matt would understand this

  • @andreschoeman1317
    @andreschoeman1317 11 месяцев назад

    After just watching rugby pass, i can really appreciate the (mostly) unbiased comments.
    Things that have the most impact in world cups are injuries though.

  • @henkstols9326
    @henkstols9326 11 месяцев назад +2

    As a Bok supporter would have loved to win the game and I felt it was definitely there for the taking, but its a pool match at the end of the day. If Kolisi or Etzebeth got injured because they weren't rotated it would have been a different discussion. Anyways I seriously hope we get thru to meet Ireland in the final but I have doubts as we dont have a kicker.

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад

      agreed.....I believe Rassie tried a different game plan to see what would happen as an experiment as the boks did not need to win the game to progress. I believe he rested players and did not show too many of his cards. Our gameplay is exploitable against the flair of the ABs so maybe Rassie wouldn't mind playing france in the qrtrs. With Rassie we just don't know what is really going on and that makes it that more exciting

  • @paulmcmenamin205
    @paulmcmenamin205 11 месяцев назад +5

    Guys, I do like your comments, but a World Cup is not won in the first round. I don't think SA management is playing all their cards just yet. I think SA know where their weaknesses are and will be dangerous coming back.

    • @lukeluus8987
      @lukeluus8987 11 месяцев назад

      Agreed, this was not a win at all costs game, we were still experimenting and trying different things out, this is far from what actually can play.

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад

      @@lukeluus8987 bingo....who kicks from 55m with a b-rated kicker and one of the most potent mauls in the world? Sure Rassie accidentally "made the wrong decision". Good luck to anyone who believes that...

  • @tauriquesedick2300
    @tauriquesedick2300 11 месяцев назад +9

    South Africa never messed up yes we lost and we take it but we were exercising patterns and defence and counter we could have kicked for corner and score we dominated the lineouts already but we chose to kick to see if the goal kickers can handle the pressure if Iam Ireland I wouldnt be to excited but well done u guys deserved to win 💯

    • @struesbob7493
      @struesbob7493 11 месяцев назад +3

      7-1 split and only had 2 mauls. Two 55 metre kicks from Faf. Well done Ireland but Boks are not disappointed by meeting France in Quarters.

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад

      @@struesbob7493 bingo

  • @rae1714
    @rae1714 11 месяцев назад +3

    Rassie appears to be micro managing the team now with regards to the light signal.Taking the two strongest players off early was also bewildering to me. Rassie has to let the captain in conjunction with the team make the decisions on the field or they will stop thinking for themselves imo.

    • @glen1482
      @glen1482 11 месяцев назад

      What is bewildering is that you have not taken into account the injuries that both players are nursing. Rassie's tactics have won a WC before... I am certain that he knows what he's doing, certainly more than you do.

  • @Titanium351
    @Titanium351 11 месяцев назад +4

    It was Rassie who put out the gameplan, they went with a 7-1 split and should have fully committed, poor decision making and a bit of panic set in.

    • @user-eb7wv5wt3j
      @user-eb7wv5wt3j 11 месяцев назад

      Lets be honest, Rassie is kak , keep changing the team. Yes it's okay to rest some players but he is really messing about. Kwagga always needs to start the game and Cobus. Cobus can cut like a knife and Kwagga can turn over ball, if we go out against France ima load my gun and come for Rassie.

    • @jonathandavis8599
      @jonathandavis8599 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-eb7wv5wt3jlet's be honest you are a poes. Ok now let's use our brains.
      Rassie went for goal to test the metrle of Faf and Manie. If they did not succeed which they didn't he knew he had to make a plan to test Pollard Of Mannie or Faf managed Pollard would not be needed to rush into the starting team.

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-eb7wv5wt3j Really? the best coach in the world who beat NZ 35-7 is KAK? Dink weer

  • @stevenburrow8804
    @stevenburrow8804 11 месяцев назад +1

    4:52 I hear you, but a lineout isn't points on offer...a kick is.

  • @malp4650
    @malp4650 11 месяцев назад +1

    Management didnt stuff up. They managed exactly as intended. They just weren't hell bent on winning that one...

  • @Straightdeal
    @Straightdeal 11 месяцев назад

    Times change quickly. Some really talented South Africans have raised their hands in recent times, Grant Williams, Canan Moodie and of course Manie Libbok. Experience is important, but nothing beats sheer natural talent and ball sense. Watch Moodie and Williams on Sunday!

  • @markkeogh2190
    @markkeogh2190 11 месяцев назад +2

    They didn’t miss 11. they scored 5 when they hit the post and only got the conversion because of that same try. The left 4 points out there. Not enough to have won.

    • @jadenphilander8799
      @jadenphilander8799 11 месяцев назад

      Bullshit.

    • @jadenphilander8799
      @jadenphilander8799 11 месяцев назад

      @@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee Hitting the post? That try came from a dominant scrum by Irelands tryline, I dont think you remember the game.

  • @Profreegolfer
    @Profreegolfer 11 месяцев назад +1

    Also worth noting that this game, while worth big bragging rights, in the grand scheme of this tournament doesn’t mean much.(unless Ireland loose to Scotland). And I don’t think either of the quarter teams will be easier then the other. The Boks coaching staff definitely tried a few things as I’m sure Ireland did. If the meet in the final I’m sure it will be even more intense.

  • @robinholland2990
    @robinholland2990 11 месяцев назад +8

    There was nothing in it really..I thought the Irish were suberb and forced us to lose composure at the line once or twice and defended as though their lives depended on it..missed kicks at goal did not help our cause...we lost it simple as that but boy oh boy were the Irish not superb on the night...we sussed em out now and we showed nothing really so I believe although we lost we got more from the game then they did...it's a long way and road ahead for both teams so just want to wish Ireland all the best ahead and if it all works out we will meet again the final...

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 месяцев назад

      Teams can't suss out Ireland, they have excellent variation in attack. Strong in all aspects of the game. Ireland will be better esp in the line out next time v SA.

    • @quentinadkins432
      @quentinadkins432 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@johnmc3862respectfully disagree. You can suss out a team. Called test rugby for a reason when it is tier 1 vs tier 1 games.
      There were a lot of questions being asked in both camps behind the scenes believe me. Questions that have bearing on post QF with reasonable expectation both get to final.
      ie a SA Ireland final this rwc
      At this stage it was still:
      It's a Pool game where both teams make it to QF anyhow. (Without being presumptuous cant see Scotland or Tonga beating these two)
      1 or 2 on log going to QF determines Fr or NZ? Who would Ireland prefer? NZ perhaps. In SA we know we don't want AB's rather France.
      With a highest % chance of SA Ireland final then they have intel from pool game
      I think both Ireland SA wanted to answer some questions and both know that rectifying aspects SA kicks and maul Ireland lineout give them a crack at winning if they in final.
      Epic rwc this time around. Most interesting thanks to Ireland being so strong in this rwc. 👏

  • @thobelandlebe4634
    @thobelandlebe4634 11 месяцев назад +1

    As a Springbok supporter having reviewed this past game with the dust having now settled, I am now convinced that both teams (emotions aside) were experimenting in this test match, knowing full well that both can "afford" to lose and still come out of the group. Each of these two were on paper and on the field of play the two strongest teams in the group, and perhaps even in the tournament itself. How do you explain the Boks taking 45-50m kicks where the lineout is a better option? How do you explain Ireland not going for points on offer and instead go for the corner? How do you explain playing a lot with ball in hand instead of playing for territory and put the much vaunted defense on full-display? How do you explain the 7:1 bench split by them? I have had time to reflect and have come to the conclusion that to the Boks management it was more important what works and what does not in a final "dress rehearsal". Ireland won this game and they must be given their kudos for that without any discussion. There are no ifs and buts here, the team that deserved to win, won! That being the case it is more important to win the tournament itself than a group fixture, ask the All Blacks and they will tell you. I would really like to see Ireland go all the way and do justice to themselves and the Rugby World who would like to see their good run translate into the ultimate prize.

    • @quentinadkins432
      @quentinadkins432 11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you bud. 100% agree with you.
      Its all percentages right? And most likely bet is SA Ireland final. Please see my comment somewhere here.
      Pool game.
      1 or 2 on log is diffs between Fr & AB's
      It was intel.

  • @jaspermalan3640
    @jaspermalan3640 11 месяцев назад +9

    Matt is parcially correct, it was a game of who is fooling who, south Africa played different, missed kicks and just played enough to stay in touch with Ireland, the teams that have had the experiences in WC knows not to play with your heart on your sleeve, it is a tournament not a sprint, Jacques and Rassie are masters in the WC and know what they are doing there records prove it, ask yourself how did they manage to get it so wrong, or did they get it right, time will tell, take nothing away from Ireland they played beautiful and valiant and won the match on the park, south Africa won the long planing in this WC

    • @ayandaveli2882
      @ayandaveli2882 11 месяцев назад +2

      I don't buy that even though we managed it in 2019. We're in a different situation now and maybe we beat France but Ireland are cooking with Gas at the moment.

    • @jaspermalan3640
      @jaspermalan3640 11 месяцев назад

      @@ayandaveli2882 I don't agree my friend, the Ireland team has to meet up with the All Black Team in QF game, the guys in Black is cooking nicely under the radar and everybody made a mistake to write them off, they gonna regret it, I feel they are the team to beat in this WC, time will tell

    • @divannavid4576
      @divannavid4576 11 месяцев назад +1

      Nobody is writing NZ off. The idea that Rassie is a master is ridiculous. SAs had an easy run to the final, and they barely got over the line.

    • @jaspermalan3640
      @jaspermalan3640 11 месяцев назад

      @@divannavid4576 Rassie is the only coach that has won the WC, that makes him the master not even up for debate my friend, any other coach current in the WC can say that?

  • @emy2310
    @emy2310 2 месяца назад

    SA only wanted to meet NZ in the final. Rassie was/is a genius

  • @kalaharikreef7371
    @kalaharikreef7371 11 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone talks about this and that, if any of the points that was left on the table was taken, the game would have changed and another outcome for the whole games was on the table.
    The Irish won. Let them have it.

  • @Driver2616
    @Driver2616 11 месяцев назад

    This wasn’t the South Africa coaches messing up, as much as it was Ireland playing better and winning the game.
    As the game was ongoing, if the referee had done his job properly and policed the line outs correctly, Ireland would’ve scored more points. Also, if the referee and the TMO had picked up the cheap off the ball shot on Mack Hansen, then the South African try would have been disallowed. Anyway, that was a clearly forward final pass.
    You can’t say that the past was backwards, but momentum, carried it forward. Momentum wouldn’t bring it forward by that much of a distance!
    Ireland deserved that victory. They would have won by a bigger score if it were referred better. They were much the better team.
    Each team plays with whatever assets they have available to them. The kicking assets that South Africa have are Faf de Klerk and Manie Libbock with Pollard to come back in at some future date. And if your assets are really up to it, then you will win the game. If not, then you lose.
    South Africa lost.
    Overall Ireland played much better than South Africa deserve the win, and would have one by more if the team of officials had adjudicated the game properly.

  • @Amanzi379
    @Amanzi379 11 месяцев назад

    I love how the Irish guys offer a balanced viewpoint, and the Aussie bloke hasn't got a clue what he is talking about :)

  • @conorcahill5422
    @conorcahill5422 11 месяцев назад

    They talk about the things South Africa did wrong as if they threw it away, but why didn't they talk about the first action, when Ireland chose to kick for the corner rather than score first with the 3x points on offer? Multiple times Ireland chose to go for the corner as well, but at the time, their lineout wasn't working. Both teams made poor judgemental calls when points were on offer. The game for me was NOT lost on the goalkicking from South Africa. It was the coaches decision to have 7 forwards and one back on the bench, leaving no opportunity to change things up if the backs were misfiring in various departments. No way will they try that again in the final should they get there and Ireland potentially do too.

  • @Camcolito
    @Camcolito 11 месяцев назад +1

    What the F is Rob Kearney talking about?

  • @ismailfrancis6159
    @ismailfrancis6159 11 месяцев назад +3

    Rassie is holding his cards tight to his chest. That's why they kicked for poles. He doesn't want to play too much rugby yet.

  • @robvandenheuvel128
    @robvandenheuvel128 11 месяцев назад +2

    It’s possible, rightly or wrongly, Bok management are still experimenting with options and permutations. Just a thought

    • @LeMerch
      @LeMerch 11 месяцев назад

      and getting it wrong. What about the last time they played and lost to Ireland only a few months ago?

  • @evln8334
    @evln8334 11 месяцев назад

    Calm down people, the Boks are still in the game. If there was one game we lost I'm glad it's against the log leaders. So now we get our stuff together and look to win the next game. Go Bokke💪🇿🇦

  • @jeanm27
    @jeanm27 11 месяцев назад +1

    Keep in mind, that all the available kickers were on the field against Ireland. Libbok, Faf and also Kolbe

  • @victorswart7411
    @victorswart7411 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yes Pollard should have been on thebench 6 2 bench.

  • @keithonlife
    @keithonlife 11 месяцев назад

    Dear MW how many times does Rassie have to say there is a return to play policy in the Bok team and Pollard had not met the standards required set by the team and management ....

  • @weirdandwhacky
    @weirdandwhacky 11 месяцев назад

    The what? We didn't have a replacement kicker?? We didn't even have a starting kicker

  • @Natedawg38
    @Natedawg38 11 месяцев назад +1

    Its a group game!!! Let the over analysis begin when these are all over next week

  • @jonathansnashall9654
    @jonathansnashall9654 11 месяцев назад +3

    Matt had a win rate of 18% when coaching Scotland which explains why he cant see Boks were tinkering / trialling a few things

    • @thomasrodwell563
      @thomasrodwell563 11 месяцев назад +1

      Who uses a world cup to trial things? Play to win or don't play

  • @waynerockman1242
    @waynerockman1242 11 месяцев назад +2

    I thought that kolisi and Eben should've stayed on for a little longer as the boks were getting ontop of Ireland. They could've gone for the touch. Maybe that was part of a bigger plan here??

    • @waynerockman1242
      @waynerockman1242 11 месяцев назад

      @@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee was that something i missed because i never saw that. No sir. Sa coaches also did not blew the game. Again no sir

    • @henkstols9326
      @henkstols9326 11 месяцев назад

      Our dominance meant nothing because we couldnt add the score board pressure, no kicker no WC unfortunately.

    • @waynerockman1242
      @waynerockman1242 11 месяцев назад

      @@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee 👏👏blàh blah blah

  • @j-cbaumgartner5761
    @j-cbaumgartner5761 11 месяцев назад +1

    So little difference between the two teams. this could have gone either way. so lets not get carried away

  • @77WHeavy
    @77WHeavy 11 месяцев назад +2

    Clearly Matt needs a HIA.

  • @warrenvanaswegen8565
    @warrenvanaswegen8565 11 месяцев назад +5

    SA picked 2 front rows and then played more with the back line than in the game against NZ . And they had no goal kicker and that cost them the victory . Maybe Ireland should not read more into a victory than that Lady Luck has favoured them in the last 2 games these teams have played.

    • @hughciarancolgan9180
      @hughciarancolgan9180 11 месяцев назад +1

      With the messed up online had worked well SA would still have lost it all evens out

    • @1987markanthony
      @1987markanthony 11 месяцев назад

      In November we were without Lowe, Aki and JG Park was on bench as he was just back from injury so its much of a muchness.

    • @Cenotaur1
      @Cenotaur1 11 месяцев назад

      SA try should have been disallowed bcos Libbik's pass was 3m forward. But do tell/whine about 'Lady Luck'.

    • @prudeuncle
      @prudeuncle 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Cenotaur1yea and SA should have got a penalty try off the last maul what's your point?

  • @johanweakley2658
    @johanweakley2658 11 месяцев назад

    As a South African Im not a fan of Matt Williams but he makes some valid points.
    Here's another angle: the Bok midfield was exposed on defense as well as on attack and we could not change the rhythm of the game because we had no suitable personnel on the bench.

  • @michaelharrison5564
    @michaelharrison5564 11 месяцев назад

    Rob was spot on RE lineout, Ireland would have been 2 scores up at half time if it functioned imo

    • @glen1482
      @glen1482 11 месяцев назад

      Luckily in the grand scheme of things, your opinion counts for nothing 🤣- I suppose Ireland collapsing the maul and coming in from the side in the last few seconds is conveniently ignored by you (and O'Keefe)

  • @BarryHawk
    @BarryHawk 11 месяцев назад

    Rob is mostly right, they don't even have another kicker, why they didn't go 6-2 and have Pollard on the bench is odd though. Going forward they will miss Marx. If they put Pollard in, their attack changes

  • @ratel8598
    @ratel8598 11 месяцев назад +10

    Springboks got more out of this game than Ireland.

    • @declanmurphy417
      @declanmurphy417 11 месяцев назад

      rubbish

    • @Cenotaur1
      @Cenotaur1 11 месяцев назад

      Really??? IRE showed other teams how to defuse the bomb squad.
      You guys played your best hand and it wasn't good enough.

    • @Sean-ek5jz
      @Sean-ek5jz 11 месяцев назад

      just another delusional fan, nothing to see here

    • @ratel8598
      @ratel8598 10 месяцев назад

      @@Cenotaur1 maybe. Enjoy the rest of the tournament.

    • @gfdsa54321k
      @gfdsa54321k 10 месяцев назад

      Lol … Ireland gone

  • @wihanvanzyl4564
    @wihanvanzyl4564 11 месяцев назад +2

    Man the world must think Bok fans are in denial. We'll know a after the QFs and I for one can't wait to see how this all plays out.

    • @user-eb7wv5wt3j
      @user-eb7wv5wt3j 11 месяцев назад

      DUDE HANG ON , NOT ALL OF US. SOME OF US CAN SEE RASSIE IS MESSING ABOUT AND HE NEEDS TO STOP THIS OR WE WILL GET KNOCKED OUT AT THE QF. ANYWAYS LET ME GO AND SEE WHERE I HIDE MY GUN :))

    • @wihanvanzyl4564
      @wihanvanzyl4564 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeeefair point😂

  • @philgavin
    @philgavin 10 месяцев назад

    Some interesting comments and predictions were made a month ago. It is pretty remarkable how many predictions turned out to be bang on the money. In hindsight now that ZA beat the ABs in the final, these so-called dimwit decisions by Rassie in the ZA-IRE match, were in fact, 3D chess.
    Most commenters below figured out what was really happening.
    Matt and the overconfident Irish over-hyped this in the press beautifully, just like Rassie knew they would. Congratulations to Ireland for an entertaining match, but it was Matt Wilson and his ilk that was really being played like a violin by the Springboks.

  • @roryfleming2320
    @roryfleming2320 11 месяцев назад

    I think the light system is really undermining Kolisi's leadership

  • @seanlennon5986
    @seanlennon5986 11 месяцев назад +1

    if you kick one goal then you don't necessarily get the other chances, as the course of the game changes, so its a non argument.

  • @stevenburrow8804
    @stevenburrow8804 11 месяцев назад

    Matt Williams has a point here...

  • @Mr-Litch
    @Mr-Litch 11 месяцев назад +5

    What if Rassie actually decided that maybe France would be a better option

    • @jasonwall5012
      @jasonwall5012 11 месяцев назад

      Pal keep spinning that web, 😂 south africa went into that game to win it. Hence why yous used a 7/1 split and yous all were saying the same shit. Now all the excuses.

    • @Mr-Litch
      @Mr-Litch 11 месяцев назад

      @jasonwall5012 🙂🙂Like Dricus du Plessis said yall don't know wat we know.. see you in the final mate.. if you get there..

    • @Mr-Litch
      @Mr-Litch 11 месяцев назад

      @jasonwall5012 ok Spiderman I know you think you clever and you might well be but wen it cums to rugby you don't have the brain. Everyone the world over says that rassie is the most intelligent coach and if so how do you explain the decision making in that game they go for poles yet Manie kicks into the 5m line 9 out of 10 times but they don't go for it Bongi is a specialist hooker yet they don't go for line outs they take Bongi off bring on Deon with 1 weeks experience and they go for line outs and Rassie insisted on taking kicks from 50m out knowing that Manie can kick for the 5m line and put it on a dime. Now let that stew for a bit but some how I still think it will go over yr head. However great game from Ireland

    • @eamontdmas
      @eamontdmas 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Mr-LitchFair enough. You keep your secrets. We'll take the win.

    • @4Q_4Q2
      @4Q_4Q2 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Mr-LitchTurns out your were right.

  • @lemonkaysweet
    @lemonkaysweet 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think its kinda good we lost against Ireland, we just played All Blacks and we gave them a proper hiding 🤷 they will come out guns blazing against us. Pretty confident Ireland can beat All Blacks, your physically stronger and match each for speed/pace

  • @malp4650
    @malp4650 11 месяцев назад

    The goal kicking issue is a matter strictly for the kicker to sort out and no other player can affect that.
    As for the Irish lineout; sure they can rectify it but hey, lets give SA credit. They too can apply more pressure and continue to upset the Irish lineout.

  • @paulsmith3966
    @paulsmith3966 11 месяцев назад

    Once upon a time it was said a team needed 14 men who stayed on side and 1 goalkicker... SA might go for 14 forwards and no goalkicker... More seriously, both teams go through and both will have learned from this match, and (frighteningly) will be stronger for it.

  • @dmazingi
    @dmazingi 11 месяцев назад

    Those two are actually saying the same as Matt Williams but then they say they disagree with him. Weird

  • @loughrey101
    @loughrey101 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's great that Rob brought up that point at the end able the lineouts as Ireland has been known to have the best driving maul in the world. They scored most of their tries against France and New Zealand with the maul from a lineout. Even their only try of the game came from one of their few successful lineouts.
    So it's naive and unfair on Ireland to focus on South Africa's kicking, as if Ireland didn't also leave a lot of points out there from their set pieces. Ireland had a try cancelled off due to a knock on, that was 7 points missed there from poor ball control, that alone would have cancelled out the 11 points South Africa left out there by taking their potential lead to 12 points, if we simply talk about the actual points that were missed from mistakes without ever talking about what could have been if Ireland's lineouts in South Africa's 22 had functioned like it did against New Zealand and France. Nobody talks about Ireland's first try that they would have scored -because they did pass the try line - if they had better ball control, South Africa pink got past the try line once by comparison. So Ireland left a lot more points out there than South Africa did

    • @renewablefuelsanalyst8263
      @renewablefuelsanalyst8263 11 месяцев назад

      yeah I dont think we should read to much into that game. It wasn't a must win game for either team so a lot of cards were kept in hand. SA arguable has 2 of the best forward packs in the world so mauling is 2nd nature for us. Yet we kicked from 55m out. A different strategy was at play so I didn't take the game at face value

    • @NickSterson
      @NickSterson 10 месяцев назад

      So in other words IRE made lots of mistakes and the only mistake the Boks made was missing their kicks? Gee good luck with logic in life pal!

  • @Patrick-sh9tt
    @Patrick-sh9tt 11 месяцев назад +2

    There’s very little between them. They play tomorrow and SA could win. Could analyse it to death, but we should be happy to win and move on. There’s a tonne of rugby left to play. Saffers be there or there abouts at the end I reckon.

    • @Patrick-sh9tt
      @Patrick-sh9tt 11 месяцев назад

      @@pepeeeeeeeeeeeeee no doubt..Ireland in great form too, we’re excited because it’s literally the best we’ve ever been

  • @petes9524
    @petes9524 3 месяца назад

    The Boksonly just lost that game because Libbok had an off day with his boot.

  • @salomonligthelm14
    @salomonligthelm14 11 месяцев назад

    Matt Williams, yeah we got it so wrong and the coaches now need to apologize for being so close in the game where it could have shifted our way last minute - on a non-crucial game?!? Rob Kearney is much more level headed - there was not much between the teams in that game. But definitely hats off to Ireland for the win!

  • @BhengzIn80days
    @BhengzIn80days 11 месяцев назад +1

    Statistically, The Springboks have one of the best defensive lineout strategies , it’s therefore somewhat overly optimistic to say that Ireland left 10-15 points because of inaccurate throws. The better team won on the night though, and there probably wasn’t much to separate them.
    Play off pressure will be the real test for all teams but possibly more so for Ireland because as good as they are, there’s still a pretenders to the thrown feel about their journey .

    • @jasonwall5012
      @jasonwall5012 11 месяцев назад

      isn't over dramatic at all. Irelands line-out was absolutely awful, and changed drastically in the second half, Also Ireland knocked the ball on at the try line and stuff, so 1 could easily make the same assumptions, that south African fans and punditry are making, that if they were to kick all them kicks they would have won the game....
      I'm sorry to burst your bubble , but we dont live in ifs, buts, or maybes, only realities. The reality is, yous missed the kicks over pressure and didn't take your chances. We kicked ours and took our chances.

    • @BhengzIn80days
      @BhengzIn80days 11 месяцев назад

      @@jasonwall5012 it’s very dramatic actually. You’re assuming Ireland would’ve scored from nearly each of those lineouts, which is silly. How many teams have you seen in 4 years, maul the Springboks over? (I’ll wait). Also, go back and watch carefully and you’ll see that South Africa actually contested those lineouts which contributed to the mis-throws so please, easy on the “we would’ve beaten you by more” garbage. And if you want to talk missed chances, besides the kicks SA had a couple of attacking opportunities in Ireland’s 22 , one where Kriel gave Kolisi a harsh pop up pass about a metre away from the line and he knocked on. The other time I believe it was turned over. So we can also easily claim to have scored some tries but we’re not. Ireland deserve the victory (don’t know if you missed that part in my statement) but let’s not act like it wasn’t a closely contested game. Ireland are beatable and they will be in this tournament

    • @NickSterson
      @NickSterson 10 месяцев назад

      @@jasonwall5012 Wading in late but you can't compare the ifs and buts of lost lineouts with at 85% goal kicking rate. The two are not equivalent. It's basic maths. The return on a lineout in the 22 and that then being a try is probably 50% if you are lucky.

  • @Pltjr33
    @Pltjr33 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great game of rugby, Ireland deserve to win.
    Request: Please direct questions to the rest of the panel (who are very good) and ignore Matt. 😂
    He is now beginning to annoy other pundits with his views and elaborate hand gestures and pointing 😵‍💫
    He just can’t take it when someone disagrees with him…and always needs to have the last word…..

    • @ahlads
      @ahlads 11 месяцев назад

      Matt was right though. Big mistake by management to opt for kicks rather than go for the corners.

  • @lightningRatPack
    @lightningRatPack 11 месяцев назад

    Everyone is playing checkers; South Africa is playing chess. :)

  • @kalaharikreef7371
    @kalaharikreef7371 11 месяцев назад

    Nah, they didn’t. No one will remember this game or Irelands run of 16 games on the trot. They will remember South Africa’s back to back World Cups and 4th title.

  • @user-tx3fi5un1n
    @user-tx3fi5un1n 11 месяцев назад

    SA having won in ‘19 makes a big difference. Form is far less relevant. England in ‘07 is another example. Ireland perpetually underperforms in knockout games. It will be a huge result if they beat France or NZ in the quarterfinals

  • @Straightdeal
    @Straightdeal 11 месяцев назад

    They do have other goal kickers FFS. Libbok was 100% successful with his kicks against NZ. Also, Willemse and KOLBE can kick. They just seem to have hopes on Pollard, whose kicking stats are not much better than Libbok's, both below 80%.

  • @climatedoomer6139
    @climatedoomer6139 11 месяцев назад +1

    It wasn't 11 points!

  • @SeanT649
    @SeanT649 11 месяцев назад +3

    We have beaten them twice in a row now, and that counts on the field.

  • @1nt1m1d4t0r
    @1nt1m1d4t0r 11 месяцев назад

    Boks got to see Ireland at their best - blueprint banked. All part of the plan.

  • @karlthemountaingoat7386
    @karlthemountaingoat7386 11 месяцев назад

    7:1 split and you opt to kick 50m+ kicks? Seems a bit weird. Corner kicks seems a little more rational. They mauled once and completely thrashed the Irish. Some would argue that the last maul should have been a penalty try. good game over all from both sides though. Ireland just made better choices.

  • @taraishot100
    @taraishot100 11 месяцев назад

    The only thing they blew was not playing Pollard at first five

  • @struesbob7493
    @struesbob7493 11 месяцев назад

    Ball was on ti, run up and kick that's all. Lineouts were contested. In fact the Boks stopped contesting then Ireland one a few. 2 mauls and 2 55metre kicks with 7-1 split. Things will be different. Remember last World Cup England thought they won it by beating the All Blacks in Semis. They were celebrating already. Never seen a side celebrate so much after a game. The real tournament is just about to start. Boks/France and Ireland/All Blacks. Then Wales, Fiji, England or Argentina to get to final. Real depth will show.

  • @gerypot1
    @gerypot1 11 месяцев назад

    why doesn't faff take their kicks? if he is allowed to kick from the 50 why can't he kick from inside the 50?

  • @mikecahill3989
    @mikecahill3989 11 месяцев назад

    The Springboks would rather avoid The All Blacks and the All Blacks would rather avoid the Springboks before the final , let’s see how Ireland do against the ABs and see how SA do against France.

  • @jakestone954
    @jakestone954 11 месяцев назад

    Wow Irish guy snubbing his team this guy, although Kearney spot on with line out comments, we will also kick more so watch out yall

  • @myshepspud1
    @myshepspud1 11 месяцев назад

    Guys it's not that complicated. In SA alot of behind the scenes politics. Rassie and now Neinaber have mostly successfully circumnavigated that with certain strategies. One is they built this whole bomb squad idea with the idea being the replacements are as important as the starters. Then you don't have arguments if the politics prefer a player starts. Then you also have to take them off around the same time. If they start playing some players 70 min and just putting players in for 10 min or not at all from the bench questions arise over favouritism. In a place like South Africa it can never be just that always goes racial.

    • @glen1482
      @glen1482 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's bull, the bomb squad are awesome. Especially the front row! They made an impact as soon as they came on

  • @Patch801
    @Patch801 11 месяцев назад

    When tactics change the game dynamic changes. It not possible to determine who might have won if something changed, if SA kicks more points, the dynamic would be different. You score points and the rest of the game doesnt just happen the same way it did. Its all nonsense. I believe both teams can play better. I believe both teams made it so difficult for each other. Next time will also be tight.

  • @schneidervonhammer722
    @schneidervonhammer722 11 месяцев назад

    The Boks hardly contested any lineouts in the Rugby Championship, then vs NZ at Twickenham they competed. A 7-1 split then not attacking the corners with the fresh pack was tactical. The kicking was probably just to see if they could kick(they can't) so now they know they 100% need the kicker. Still composure and decision-making on the fly is where Ireland won - Can the Boks learn to be more composed and astute with their decision-making in the KO games...time will tell.

  • @joeqio1703
    @joeqio1703 11 месяцев назад

    You can talk about this game to the moon and back...Springboks will play the All Blacks in the final

  • @brianlalor
    @brianlalor 11 месяцев назад

    I love Eamon Dunphy

  • @Thapstar1
    @Thapstar1 11 месяцев назад

    Bare in mind Ireland will playing a wounded new zealand team. As a bok fan, I honestly woundnt opt to play a wounded all-blacks team. All-blacks are coming hard trust me. Goodluck to Ireland

  • @quentinadkins432
    @quentinadkins432 11 месяцев назад

    Boks disrupted Irish lineout.
    Decisions were so strange one feels it looks experimental. Kicks from + 50m no reliable kicker? vs corner kicks?
    Said this before: is it a case of we know AB's, we feel we know France lets learn Ireland of all the big tewms SA 'know' Ireland the least. And Ireland are briliant.
    In QF we know France or NZ if we get through and Ireland too (likely) then one bets on SA Ireland final - tho anything can happen - it seems likely.
    In which case we 've had a feel of Ireland and will be better prepped. Coz then its FINAL. This was merely a pool game and sure there is bragging rights but it is not a final.
    Win or lose Boks just did not do what they normally would ie the type of game they feel wins games very strange.

  • @gpac8147
    @gpac8147 11 месяцев назад +1

    Coaches did great .. was a pool game ...were it a knock out , Ireland lose

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 11 месяцев назад

      How did you make that one out Ireland loose they won on the day!