Came back a day later to see if i had any crashes after watching this video. I DID NOT! Actually so shocked, not a single crash since doing these settings, thank you so much!
To say this tutorial was a life saver would be an understatement. Vegas user from the very beginning. Sonic Foundry beginning. Have never had a completely satisfactory experience, but always thought they were just one version or build away from perfection. Always frustrated with GPU acceleration. It was a lot faster, especially renders, if you could just keep it running long enough to finish without crashing. So most of the time I just left it off. Just updated to Vegas 18 couple weeks ago, then a new PC build. 12 core AMD, 64GB, nVidia RTX2060, 2TB m.2 SSDs. Lightening fast, GPU unbelievable. 6 layer multicam editing at Best/Full resolution previews. But.... after a few days and more elaborate projects it started crashing. I started disabling the GPU. Running Preview Half quality res. Turning off all thumbnails on timeline. It got so bad it would barely load. Under tremendous pressure to finish a job with a drop dead deadline I went looking for answers. Then I found this video. WTF? Why did someone on creative cow not tell me about the "Open CL/GL interop" 8 years ago? Seriously? As for the RAM setting, I had played with that but always assumed it was just for RAM preview, never guessed it improved other functions like thumbnail generation. From the experiments I made it sometimes increasing the RAM appeared to make matters even worse. Other advice I was getting always started with turning OFF GPU acceleration. So to wrap this up. I followed all your direction except timeline thumbnails. Sorry I need them, lost without them. But it doesn't matter, because this rig now can play at full resolution, while building thumbnails on the timeline. Something it had never done before. thanks! big thumbs up! subscribed. joined.
I just bought the Vegas Pro 18 software and thank you so much for this video. These yours great videos will help a lot in making my channel videos. Keep up good work Josh.
These solutions all worked for me, thank you so much. I was getting so frustrated with Vegas constantly crashing or getting stuck in "not responding limbo" when all I had done was just open the program itself. Now it actually runs and I can finish editing my videos. ; w ;
THANK YOU!!! I was losing the will to live having upgraded to Vegas 18 (always crashing). Now got it working - thanks to your vid. Didn't even need to disable the clip thumbnails (which I find useful). Cheers - you're a legend!
As someone who struggled with Vegas 14 crashing, I was a little disappointed when Vegas 18 carried on doing the same thing...but this has helped so much, thanks man!! *Edit - Forgot to mention how brilliant that thumbnail choice is
OMG! I fricking love you! You saved my nervs and my vegas runs much faster right now. The video preview is much smoother and vegas is no longer crashing! Thank you so much!
Yes, thank you for this! I upgraded to 18 today, and like 17, it crashed all the time, which really impacts my workflow negatively. This fixed it though, thanks!
I have tried out every solution for crash when previewing on external monitor, and nothing has worked until I randomly found this video and followed your steps - Thanks a lot! 💪
bro I was editing 1.5 hours of raw footage, and was getting fed up with the lag, and this video helped insanely much. It will probably improve my experience on shorter heavier edited videos aswell, as someone who uses vegas multiple times a week this is just so nice
A decade of problems with vegas, over 14 hours on this last project. You solved my problem. These are the most underrated vegas videos out there. Nothing else worked.
You should also add one more thing... Click on the help menu, and run the driver update utility. This will install the best recommended driver for VEGAS on your system, though it currently only works for Nvidia cards. For AMD cards, make sure you install the Enterprise driver, not the game drivers they give you by default. I just helped a user on the forums fix their issue this way, one click on the driver update utility, and their problems were gone.
That is a good method and could definitely go in this video. I have it in the More Cool New Things video but that one won't get as much attention as this one.
Same here Vegas pro 18, if i tick them all i get is OFF & AUTO (OFF), If i untick them it shows my NVIDIA card. I also only have one OpenCL/GL Interop, not the one for Intel.
Yes! Thank you for showing AND explaining what we are doing by changing a setting. Others just show do this, this and that, and I have no idea what I've really changed.
Lifesaver! Working on over 30 videos for a client and literally have been making a few edits, saving, crashing, reopening...saved me a lot of hassle. Sucks that Magix doesn't provide this info, but thank you for being a hero!
Thank you very much for fixing my problem. I went to another video and they said to set one of the SO4 options to false, but that doesn't exist on my copy of MS17. I had my render crash at 88% twice already. You deserve a medal for this!
So I've been experiencing lag with HEVC videos recorded with RADEON ReLIVE for eternity now. After watching so many things, all of these solutions used to fix the issues for me, including the So4 solution, but nothing would do the trick on Vegas 18. What I did was disable legacy HEVC decoding and the videos stopped lagging! Amen!
Thanks for the video. As one of the few people who actually bought it, it just makes me mad how the make like $ 500 off of something that does not really work for anybody. I refuse to understand how the developers sleep at night 😄
In preferences -> File I/O -> Hardware decoder to use: I don´t have an option to chose a graphic card I have only OFF and Auto (Off) there even that in -> Video tab I clicked the GPU acelerator to use Nvidea . Thank you for help
Wow. This video is a life saver. Using Movie Studio 17. Platinum and would constantly freeze on playbacks or even skimming through the video. Thank you so much!!
oh my god this actually helped lol, i've been using vegas (12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, even 19, all pirated) since like 2015 i think, they were all always laggy and crashing a lot, especially with OBS footages which makes it even worse. (I havent tried obs footages, at least the mp4 ones, only the .mov ones for now for audio) and it runs so much smoother now, thanks lol nothing else worked
I'm running Vegas Pro 18 as well. i7 7700k 4.5ghz with GTX 1080 GPU with 32GB ram. 18 was crashing on me every ten minutes. I follow your steps and 18 hasn't crashed in the past three hours. Its funny. You go to the Vegas official forums to look for help, but you're greeted with condescending, toxic, self-absorbed losers who blame you for not including a spreadsheet of your computer stats/specs in the post. Then proceed to ridicule and belitte you for not following the initial troubleshooting phases, because hell, they're not apparently having a single issue or problem with the program. So they need to justify their petty existance and talk down on who they deem bigots and lower class peasants since they lack a sense of achievement and attention in life. Thank hell I never bothered posting, but I saw threads where people just asking for help were accused of venting and complaining and then you know the rest of the story. I come here and follow this awesome guys step by step five minute video and my problems solved. This is the kind of RUclipsr we all want to look for, for trouble shooting. It may or may not work, but this guy just gets to the point and explains it very simple and clear. Mad kudos for this, liked!
It's worth noting some users are reporting that after applying these fixes, they are getting errors with some projects not opening, VEGAS is asking for an internet connection even though one exists. I'm not sure which change triggered it, but one of them did, as when the user reversed these suggested changes, the bug went away.
Thank you very much! You have help me to be able to open a file that I have been trying to open for 2 hours and the computers always freeze, after doing all the steps the files are load up without any problems. You save me all the work I put into this project. Thank you. 😃🤗 Subscribed! 😉
This is great, I've seen so many different suggestions but this was the first I've seen of OpenCL or legacy decoding. I'm actually able to edit without spamming ctrl+S and crossing my fingers every time I pause or undo anything
about to stomp on this program till I saw this video thanks, you are the man, never had a program crash so much, and believe me I am use to programs crashing, but this!!! 3 times in about 3 minutes, after a clean install, man thank you.
I am sooooo glad I discovered you. Already a huge fan. I hope these particular changes also help Vegas 18 work with MVI files from my Canon DSLR, which have never ever been a problem before.
Can confirm, did the first two major tweaks then forgot I was watching this and edited a whole video. 0 crashes, which is 6 less than I had last time I edited 1 hour of footage down to 40.
man ... you're great ... I watched tons of videos and tried to solve the problem of freezing in render on vegas 18 .... only your solution solved the problem. Please fix the title add freeze because people don't know it helps for that too. Thanks a lot my man!
Thank you! This helped a ton. Now just have to remember where to find it when I want to use HEVC ;-). One interesting thing when I did this was that the hardware decoder to use (in File I/O) was grayed out and set to Intel, not my graphics card.
Thanks so much for this, the bits that were the same even fixed my Sony Vegas Movie Studio 18 that crashes frequently during playback. Been trying to fix this for a long time.
Since first checking in with you, I've done the following 7 things, trying to get Vegas Pro 18 to do any render at all: 1) Did latest Windows 10 update 2) Did Vegas Pro 18 factory reset 3) Did NVIDIA driver update 4) Enabled legacy AVC and HEVC decoding in File I/O 5) Set GPU acceleration processing to "NVIDIA" (also tried turning it OFF) 6) Dedicated a third of available Dynamic RAM 7) Set both Open CL/GL interops to "FALSE" And --- after all that --- attempted to render several very short, basically unedited MP4s to the factory default project settings. And Pro 18 still will not render anything. Nothing at all. I should mention that Vegas Pro 14, which is on the same machine, works fine. Can you suggest any further steps. Thanks so much for all your help so far.
Wow that's crazy that they're not being rendered. IIf you've already re-encoded the video (using this handbrake tutorial: ruclips.net/video/DiDmUg8aRnE/видео.html and using these render settings: ruclips.net/video/t6PPUD6ZROs/видео.html )Then I'm out of ideas. You can try posting to the official forums here: www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/vegas-pro-forum/ and see if anybody else has any suggestions.
Thanks for this. The only problem I have now after changing all these settings is that the building peaks takes a long time. It might be time for me to get a new PC as I've been editing on a laptop with a gtx 1050 in it lol
the way you say "you could totally BREAK VEGAS" makes it so tempting
Exactly I was looking for, thanks for responding ^^
No problemo! Maybe if you're not too busy you could do a little shoutout :) Help a smaller creator grow.
@@ScrapyardFilms Sure thing man :D
I just recently upgraded to Vegas Pro 18 and this helped a lot. I experienced my first crash and did these settings now its running perfectly!
It's a pure masterpiece. So clear, so hopeful. Thanks to YOU, I didn't delete my Vegas and stopped screaming and shouting. Many thanks !!!!
Most in-depth tutorial on this subject I've watched. Concise and informative, exactly what I needed.
Came back a day later to see if i had any crashes after watching this video. I DID NOT! Actually so shocked, not a single crash since doing these settings, thank you so much!
To say this tutorial was a life saver would be an understatement. Vegas user from the very beginning. Sonic Foundry beginning. Have never had a completely satisfactory experience, but always thought they were just one version or build away from perfection. Always frustrated with GPU acceleration. It was a lot faster, especially renders, if you could just keep it running long enough to finish without crashing. So most of the time I just left it off. Just updated to Vegas 18 couple weeks ago, then a new PC build. 12 core AMD, 64GB, nVidia RTX2060, 2TB m.2 SSDs. Lightening fast, GPU unbelievable. 6 layer multicam editing at Best/Full resolution previews. But.... after a few days and more elaborate projects it started crashing. I started disabling the GPU. Running Preview Half quality res. Turning off all thumbnails on timeline. It got so bad it would barely load. Under tremendous pressure to finish a job with a drop dead deadline I went looking for answers.
Then I found this video. WTF? Why did someone on creative cow not tell me about the "Open CL/GL interop" 8 years ago? Seriously? As for the RAM setting, I had played with that but always assumed it was just for RAM preview, never guessed it improved other functions like thumbnail generation. From the experiments I made it sometimes increasing the RAM appeared to make matters even worse. Other advice I was getting always started with turning OFF GPU acceleration.
So to wrap this up. I followed all your direction except timeline thumbnails. Sorry I need them, lost without them. But it doesn't matter, because this rig now can play at full resolution, while building thumbnails on the timeline. Something it had never done before. thanks! big thumbs up! subscribed. joined.
I just bought the Vegas Pro 18 software and thank you so much for this video. These yours great videos will help a lot in making my channel videos. Keep up good work Josh.
why didn't you crack it lmao.
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These solutions all worked for me, thank you so much. I was getting so frustrated with Vegas constantly crashing or getting stuck in "not responding limbo" when all I had done was just open the program itself. Now it actually runs and I can finish editing my videos. ; w ;
You sir have just saved me so much time. and saved many hairs on my head from being pulled out.
Finally someone that doesn't just say "put dynamic ram to 0 and set GPU acceleration to Off"! Thank you so much!
THANK YOU!!! I was losing the will to live having upgraded to Vegas 18 (always crashing). Now got it working - thanks to your vid. Didn't even need to disable the clip thumbnails (which I find useful). Cheers - you're a legend!
As someone who struggled with Vegas 14 crashing, I was a little disappointed when Vegas 18 carried on doing the same thing...but this has helped so much, thanks man!!
*Edit - Forgot to mention how brilliant that thumbnail choice is
OMG! I fricking love you! You saved my nervs and my vegas runs much faster right now. The video preview is much smoother and vegas is no longer crashing! Thank you so much!
Yes, thank you for this!
I upgraded to 18 today, and like 17, it crashed all the time, which really impacts my workflow negatively.
This fixed it though, thanks!
No problem! Glad it helped!
A hidden hero you are - thanks for the help that was very MUCH needed! Best tutorial explaining this by far.
Glad it helped!
Thanks dude! I was almost ripping my head off with the random crashes whole editing!
This just completely fixed my preview lag in Vegas 19! Cheers bro!
I have tried out every solution for crash when previewing on external monitor, and nothing has worked until I randomly found this video and followed your steps - Thanks a lot! 💪
bro I was editing 1.5 hours of raw footage, and was getting fed up with the lag, and this video helped insanely much. It will probably improve my experience on shorter heavier edited videos aswell, as someone who uses vegas multiple times a week this is just so nice
A decade of problems with vegas, over 14 hours on this last project. You solved my problem. These are the most underrated vegas videos out there. Nothing else worked.
You should also add one more thing... Click on the help menu, and run the driver update utility. This will install the best recommended driver for VEGAS on your system, though it currently only works for Nvidia cards. For AMD cards, make sure you install the Enterprise driver, not the game drivers they give you by default. I just helped a user on the forums fix their issue this way, one click on the driver update utility, and their problems were gone.
That is a good method and could definitely go in this video. I have it in the More Cool New Things video but that one won't get as much attention as this one.
@@ScrapyardFilms yo how i install the enterprise driver?
Thanks a bunch for that input too!
This is the only video that helped after 20 tutorials that didn't help, thank you!
Thank you, you saved me from so many crashes and pain!
absolutely amazing tutorial, love the knowledge you shared!
same!
Thanks for save from my loop of crashing/freezing. It was painful upgrade from V14 to V18. :-D
wow thank you so much !!!
You're welcome! Nice artwork by the way! Very talented.
btw in step 2, when you enable those two file i/o options, i sets hardware decoder to use to auto (off), and you cant select a gpu to use.
Same here Vegas pro 18, if i tick them all i get is OFF & AUTO (OFF), If i untick them it shows my NVIDIA card. I also only have one OpenCL/GL Interop, not the one for Intel.
Yes! Thank you for showing AND explaining what we are doing by changing a setting. Others just show do this, this and that, and I have no idea what I've really changed.
Lifesaver! Working on over 30 videos for a client and literally have been making a few edits, saving, crashing, reopening...saved me a lot of hassle. Sucks that Magix doesn't provide this info, but thank you for being a hero!
I think I needed this. Thanks for the tip!
thank youuuu it helps all sony vegas creators
I hope it helps me lmao it freezes way too much
You are the best man !! I had been struggling with soo many vegas crashes. This worked like a charm
I was searching for a vide explaining this! Thank you very much!
Thank you very much for fixing my problem. I went to another video and they said to set one of the SO4 options to false, but that doesn't exist on my copy of MS17.
I had my render crash at 88% twice already.
You deserve a medal for this!
So I've been experiencing lag with HEVC videos recorded with RADEON ReLIVE for eternity now. After watching so many things, all of these solutions used to fix the issues for me, including the So4 solution, but nothing would do the trick on Vegas 18. What I did was disable legacy HEVC decoding and the videos stopped lagging! Amen!
Ur my man! Not only u helped me fix the crashes but that MKV support changed my life, ty!
This video really helped alot, thank you!!
This helped a ton and fixed my issues. Thanks dude
Thanks for the video. As one of the few people who actually bought it, it just makes me mad how the make like $ 500 off of something that does not really work for anybody. I refuse to understand how the developers sleep at night 😄
Thank you very much for the trick now my projects open me much faster. Greetings from Argentina.
you are an actual life saver. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
After your advices it works perfect! Thank you so much!
In preferences -> File I/O -> Hardware decoder to use: I don´t have an option to chose a graphic card I have only OFF and Auto (Off) there even that in -> Video tab I clicked the GPU acelerator to use Nvidea . Thank you for help
me too !
Wow. This video is a life saver. Using Movie Studio 17. Platinum and would constantly freeze on playbacks or even skimming through the video. Thank you so much!!
Thank you!
oh my god this actually helped lol, i've been using vegas (12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, even 19, all pirated) since like 2015 i think, they were all always laggy and crashing a lot, especially with OBS footages which makes it even worse. (I havent tried obs footages, at least the mp4 ones, only the .mov ones for now for audio) and it runs so much smoother now, thanks lol nothing else worked
You saved my life. Now my VEGAS PRO 18 works as expected!! ThX a lot
Worked like a charm! Thanks!
I'm running Vegas Pro 18 as well. i7 7700k 4.5ghz with GTX 1080 GPU with 32GB ram. 18 was crashing on me every ten minutes. I follow your steps and 18 hasn't crashed in the past three hours. Its funny. You go to the Vegas official forums to look for help, but you're greeted with condescending, toxic, self-absorbed losers who blame you for not including a spreadsheet of your computer stats/specs in the post. Then proceed to ridicule and belitte you for not following the initial troubleshooting phases, because hell, they're not apparently having a single issue or problem with the program. So they need to justify their petty existance and talk down on who they deem bigots and lower class peasants since they lack a sense of achievement and attention in life. Thank hell I never bothered posting, but I saw threads where people just asking for help were accused of venting and complaining and then you know the rest of the story.
I come here and follow this awesome guys step by step five minute video and my problems solved. This is the kind of RUclipsr we all want to look for, for trouble shooting. It may or may not work, but this guy just gets to the point and explains it very simple and clear. Mad kudos for this, liked!
what that guy just said.
Youre video are a life saver! easy and clear to understand
Thanks for the video man, very helpful!!!
ty! this is so great!
It's worth noting some users are reporting that after applying these fixes, they are getting errors with some projects not opening, VEGAS is asking for an internet connection even though one exists. I'm not sure which change triggered it, but one of them did, as when the user reversed these suggested changes, the bug went away.
thanks for the heads up. all good on this end, but duly noted.
Did help a lot! Finally I can edit without crashes every 10 minutes. Thanks very much!
Much appreciated, just switched from Vegas Pro 17 and I was crashing every 5 minutes so I was pretty disappointed, hopefully this does the trick.
Thanks alot for this tutorials! Much love !!
THIS REALLY HELPED! THANKS SO MUCH!! :))
This is literally THE FIX I needed. Thank you.
This is really good.. had some good tips that others seemed to not include
Thank you very much! You have help me to be able to open a file that I have been trying to open for 2 hours and the computers always freeze, after doing all the steps the files are load up without any problems. You save me all the work I put into this project.
Thank you. 😃🤗 Subscribed! 😉
Invaluable stuff man. Tried everything else and this made it work. THANK YOU
Ive been using Vegas since version 3. Thanks for posting and keep up the great work.
The settings you went into the 'internal' prefs for are right there in the vanilla prefs you show in this very video - 1:54 - third from bottom.
Again... RUclips clearly wants me to follow you so I just subbed 3 days 3 topics in a row lol
So far huge help!
this guy is the definition of a damn legend!
+1 Like, +1 Sub. Deserved.
This is great, I've seen so many different suggestions but this was the first I've seen of OpenCL or legacy decoding. I'm actually able to edit without spamming ctrl+S and crossing my fingers every time I pause or undo anything
I usually don't comment but you saved my life it's fucking butter now
Thank you as a vegas user for many years I never knew this thank you!
about to stomp on this program till I saw this video thanks, you are the man, never had a program crash so much, and believe me I am use to programs crashing, but this!!! 3 times in about 3 minutes, after a clean install, man thank you.
Holy shit! This really worked! Thank you!
I am sooooo glad I discovered you. Already a huge fan. I hope these particular changes also help Vegas 18 work with MVI files from my Canon DSLR, which have never ever been a problem before.
This has been an absolute life saver, thank you so much.
That helped. Subbed and liked. Thanks !
thank you man, you channel deserve 500 000 subscribers
Nice job. Truly, very good insight on helping set the software up to run better. Very happy with the results, thanks for sharing.
THANK YOU! Your fixes are spot on!
Great tips - unfortunately my Vegas 18 crashed while I was applying your tips on how to stop Vegas 18 crashing!!!!
classic vegas
lifesaver! thanks a lot!
Can confirm, did the first two major tweaks then forgot I was watching this and edited a whole video. 0 crashes, which is 6 less than I had last time I edited 1 hour of footage down to 40.
It worked!!!! thanks so much!
man ... you're great ... I watched tons of videos and tried to solve the problem of freezing in render on vegas 18 .... only your solution solved the problem. Please fix the title add freeze because people don't know it helps for that too. Thanks a lot my man!
Thank you! This helped a ton. Now just have to remember where to find it when I want to use HEVC ;-). One interesting thing when I did this was that the hardware decoder to use (in File I/O) was grayed out and set to Intel, not my graphics card.
Thanks, helped me a lot!
This made a massive difference, thanks man!
Thanks so much for this, the bits that were the same even fixed my Sony Vegas Movie Studio 18 that crashes frequently during playback. Been trying to fix this for a long time.
YO. love ya.
Mine stopped crashing i think. It was crashing every f***ing 1 min.
And now it lasted +1 hour :)
This is sooooo smooth, gonna try it right now
You are a legend! Thanks for saving me
Superstars!! Thank you so much. Vegas 18 was doing my head in, but these changes seem to have stabilised it
love you man u helped me alot
Saved the day and a few grand. Was thinking I had to get a new laptop to run 18. Good on ya mate!
The Best
Since first checking in with you, I've done the following 7 things, trying to get Vegas Pro 18 to do any render at all:
1) Did latest Windows 10 update
2) Did Vegas Pro 18 factory reset
3) Did NVIDIA driver update
4) Enabled legacy AVC and HEVC decoding in File I/O
5) Set GPU acceleration processing to "NVIDIA" (also tried turning it OFF)
6) Dedicated a third of available Dynamic RAM
7) Set both Open CL/GL interops to "FALSE"
And --- after all that --- attempted to render several very short, basically unedited MP4s to the factory default project settings.
And Pro 18 still will not render anything. Nothing at all.
I should mention that Vegas Pro 14, which is on the same machine, works fine.
Can you suggest any further steps.
Thanks so much for all your help so far.
Wow that's crazy that they're not being rendered. IIf you've already re-encoded the video (using this handbrake tutorial: ruclips.net/video/DiDmUg8aRnE/видео.html and using these render settings: ruclips.net/video/t6PPUD6ZROs/видео.html )Then I'm out of ideas. You can try posting to the official forums here: www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/vegas-pro-forum/ and see if anybody else has any suggestions.
Liked and subscribed. Thanks a lot to the redditor who referred me here.
Thanks for this. The only problem I have now after changing all these settings is that the building peaks takes a long time. It might be time for me to get a new PC as I've been editing on a laptop with a gtx 1050 in it lol
yEp, solved my crashing
Now that's a lot of help! Thanks!
Once again, scrapyard keeps my PC out of the scrapyard. Thanks!