Actually, Boimler's not the one to blame for all this. Its the Curators fault for not doing more of a thorough inspection of Voyager before shipping her off to the exhibit.
Yeah his so called refitting was shitshow. He missed a Borg Nanite. Can you imagine how bad that could have been if they found that AFTER it became a museum with no starfleet to guard it?
It took the ending shot of Voyager on the ground in San Francisco to get me to remember; in Endgame Future Janeway says that Voyager is a museum in her timeline “On a clear day you can see Alcatraz from here” Looks like that’s true for the main Trek timeline too, Nice callback!
That trope of adding an exclamation point to a descriptive of a character before their name is so cringe, it can't be that hard to just say "salamander janeway", can it?
@@Robert-hz9bj - It probably took the Federation centuries of diplomacy to convince the Delta Quadrant civilizations that they weren't all like Janeway.
I like how Mariner has went from downplaying their friendship in S1 to not even trying to hide just how much she cares for him in later seasons. Their friendship is one of the best things about the show.
@@Willie5000 We only know a certain few characters in universe who thinks that. It is probably an ongoing debate there aswell as among fans. :p Im on the save Tuvix side, but Janeway did not get committed or reprimanded by Starfleet for this 'murder' so by in universe law shes all good. Morals and ethics on the other hand.... This debate will last as long as the human race.
@@booombasa She murdered him. Technically she wouldn't get a reprimand, as it was truly a morel dilemma. There was no "right" answer. She chose to save Tuvix. She will live with the guilt of having to kill someone to do it till the day she dies.
@@Willie5000 I mean, Prodigy also establishes that Janeway has an MO to "clean house" She's still my favorite Captain but I get she's kinda messed up too
If you think about it, Bomlier has already visit famous places and already make a name for himself like Deep space 9 Dabo master, SNW Enterprise "the guy who get to meet his idol", USS Titan "the guy who like the enterprise D" now USS Voyager with the cheese thing and has all the Voy plate collection, i hope one day he get to visit the NX-01
I hope Boimler actually plays Captain Proton Holonovels as the Son of Captain Proton it's too perfect Also love the Clown's banter with Chaotica it reads so well.
Boimler reaching a point where he values his connections to other people more than he values the chance to get promoted is some fine-ass character development. Season 1 Boimler was willing to leave his friends behind (albeit reluctantly) to take a promotion to the Titan. Season 4 Boimler is willing to self-sabotage because his loyalty to his friends is such that he measures his worthiness to advance by how well he supports and believes in them. Good man, Brad...
What I like is that we also have a direct mirror in William Boimler taking the complete opposite route. Isolating himself even from the Titan's crew for a more "prestigious" position with a Section 31
One of my favourite pieces of trivia from this episode is that the name of the curator, Beljo Tweekle, seems to be inspired by Bjo Trimble, who was one of the leading people in the letter-writing campaign that got TOS renewed for a third season, as well as authoring the very first Star Trek episode guide and being involved in a number of other things in Star Trek history.
"I used the Neelix cheese! It gummed yo the neural network just the way it likes!" Oh Rutherford, don't ever stop being you. Also just realized Boimler's voice actor is the current Superman from My Adventures with Superman. A superb choice, they both have that nervous energy and are a little too eager to please everyone around them.
Small detail, but I like how Ransom was smart enough to shut up as soon as it would get them caught even though he was against the current course of action. He wasn't stubborn or spiteful even though he would have preferred to have a sense of control over the situation.
it probably has to do with the numerous modifications that had been done to the ship. I also believe that the gel pack route may have been viewed as too strategically significant to keep the ship active. Your ship is now not only vulnerable to physical attack and energy attack but also biological.
@@rulerofdiscord I came to the same conclusion. Because yeah, Rick is right that Voyager is a relatively new ship class. And you honestly can’t tell me that Voyager is “too old” when Starfleet still has Miranda and Excelsior class ships still in service. So Voyager being too irregular in its design after all the modifications is about the only reason I can think of
@@rulerofdiscordnah man, every ship in the fleet has since adopted bio neural circuitry and isolinear hybrid computer systems, they decommissioned it because starfleet RnD got their hands on it and tore every non essential part from it's Hull for research. They added a stellar cartography room, the database filled with so many planets and scans, the doctor, borg enhancements done multiple times, the transphasic torpedo and the ablative shield, neelixes cooking, etc
Voyager is a historically significant ship. Also the Voyager-A is on the way. Starfleet took two years to catalog and remove classified modifications from Voyager like Borg enhancements, Slipstream drive, deployable ablative armor and Borg killing torpedoes.
What did you do? Like dude the ship is under the control of the Borg and headed to a cube. If it gets there and you don’t have control back you will be a drone. That’s assuming you left the weapons and armor on the ship without that your toast, Voyager was never going to take a cube in a fire fight
Actually, Boimler's not the one to blame for all this. Its the Curators fault for not doing more of a thorough inspection of Voyager before shipping her off to the exhibit.
Well is strange how that virus survival so long and no one find it befor
@@Darlf_Sevilbro, some viruses in the real world can go dormant. why couldn't some alien macro-virus?
@@LexYeen it big, more dna, ect. More things what can go wrong abaut it biology
Yep That ship was not inspected well enough if that stuff was all there. The voyager crew had no space dock to work with WTF was this guys excuse?
Yeah his so called refitting was shitshow. He missed a Borg Nanite. Can you imagine how bad that could have been if they found that AFTER it became a museum with no starfleet to guard it?
To think Boimler would be willing to ruin his chances for promotion over his friendship with Mariner. He truly has grown as a character.
How fitting that the Borg-beating expert gets promoted facing a Borg adversary
Also I love the character growth that Mariner fully trusts Boimler now
Yeah, those hours spent in the HoloDeck that one episode really paid off here.
Dude went so haard he actually taught them empathy and stopped them being borge... till he was forced to go one final round.
The fact that she's also willing to stay stuck there so Boimler can save the ship instead is also worth mentioning.
It took the ending shot of Voyager on the ground in San Francisco to get me to remember; in Endgame Future Janeway says that Voyager is a museum in her timeline “On a clear day you can see Alcatraz from here”
Looks like that’s true for the main Trek timeline too, Nice callback!
3:42 “we did it! We broke Voyager!” That feels like an insane statement having watched Voyager when I was a child lol
I’m so dumb - I just realised that its Salamander!Janeway (or an animatronic of her, anyway) sitting in the captain’s chair
Or a replica thereof.
That trope of adding an exclamation point to a descriptive of a character before their name is so cringe, it can't be that hard to just say "salamander janeway", can it?
2:17 "I miss my wife". Yeah, pity that Janeway deleted her so that she could have you for herself.
"I miss my wife tails"
@@TiredMoonRabbit AAHHA
Janeway's cruelty was pretty legendary throughout the Delta Quadrant...
One of the best scenes in Trek ever
@@Robert-hz9bj - It probably took the Federation centuries of diplomacy to convince the Delta Quadrant civilizations that they weren't all like Janeway.
I like how Mariner has went from downplaying their friendship in S1 to not even trying to hide just how much she cares for him in later seasons. Their friendship is one of the best things about the show.
And now Boimler and Rutherford are a part of Voyager history
Janeway will be proud of them.
I love that this is all also canon now
The characters said flat out in the episode that Janeway committed murder. So there we have it. Janeway murdered Tuvix, it’s canon.
@@Willie5000 We only know a certain few characters in universe who thinks that. It is probably an ongoing debate there aswell as among fans. :p
Im on the save Tuvix side, but Janeway did not get committed or reprimanded by Starfleet for this 'murder' so by in universe law shes all good. Morals and ethics on the other hand.... This debate will last as long as the human race.
@@booombasa She murdered him.
Technically she wouldn't get a reprimand, as it was truly a morel dilemma. There was no "right" answer. She chose to save Tuvix. She will live with the guilt of having to kill someone to do it till the day she dies.
@@Willie5000 I mean, Prodigy also establishes that Janeway has an MO to "clean house"
She's still my favorite Captain but I get she's kinda messed up too
@@nuzlocke2266 Simple solution. Do a Will/Thomas Riker transporter duplicate thing on Tuvix, and before materialization split one of them apart.
If you think about it, Bomlier has already visit famous places and already make a name for himself like Deep space 9 Dabo master, SNW Enterprise "the guy who get to meet his idol", USS Titan "the guy who like the enterprise D" now USS Voyager with the cheese thing and has all the Voy plate collection,
i hope one day he get to visit the NX-01
It's mentioned in SNW that he and Mariner toured it in the museum, and learned the things that helped them get back to their own time.
i love hearing the voyager theme.. it just feels so good
Brad does only two things: save the day and follow protocol
I came here to save the day and follow protocols. And I'm out of protocols.
I hope Boimler actually plays Captain Proton Holonovels as the Son of Captain Proton it's too perfect
Also love the Clown's banter with Chaotica it reads so well.
Wait, what?!
Boimler reaching a point where he values his connections to other people more than he values the chance to get promoted is some fine-ass character development. Season 1 Boimler was willing to leave his friends behind (albeit reluctantly) to take a promotion to the Titan. Season 4 Boimler is willing to self-sabotage because his loyalty to his friends is such that he measures his worthiness to advance by how well he supports and believes in them. Good man, Brad...
Maybe his friends should happy for him success in his career, not demand that he put being then over a promotion.
What I like is that we also have a direct mirror in William Boimler taking the complete opposite route. Isolating himself even from the Titan's crew for a more "prestigious" position with a Section 31
One of my favourite pieces of trivia from this episode is that the name of the curator, Beljo Tweekle, seems to be inspired by Bjo Trimble, who was one of the leading people in the letter-writing campaign that got TOS renewed for a third season, as well as authoring the very first Star Trek episode guide and being involved in a number of other things in Star Trek history.
Am I the only one who wonders how Janeway would react to this news?
I imagine she'd punch Boimler in the throat and then give him a handshake for a job well done.
"I used the Neelix cheese! It gummed yo the neural network just the way it likes!"
Oh Rutherford, don't ever stop being you.
Also just realized Boimler's voice actor is the current Superman from My Adventures with Superman. A superb choice, they both have that nervous energy and are a little too eager to please everyone around them.
The Cerritos Crew as cameo figures on Voyager. #stld
2:17 sudedenly I have flashback to Dr Eggman 😅
"Shadow the hedgehog is a b!+(# @$$ mother f_([3
Haha ha. One.
2:49 The only way this could have been more perfect is if the salamander in the command chair had one of Janeway's coffee cups.
ive missed voyager it was good to see her again voyager is my favourite star trek show
"It belongs in a museum!"... Opps wrong franchise!
The music says it all🌛🌛
Small detail, but I like how Ransom was smart enough to shut up as soon as it would get them caught even though he was against the current course of action. He wasn't stubborn or spiteful even though he would have preferred to have a sense of control over the situation.
What I don't get is that Voyager isn't an old ship. She's contemporary to the Enterprise. Why would they decommission her?
it probably has to do with the numerous modifications that had been done to the ship. I also believe that the gel pack route may have been viewed as too strategically significant to keep the ship active. Your ship is now not only vulnerable to physical attack and energy attack but also biological.
@@rulerofdiscord I came to the same conclusion. Because yeah, Rick is right that Voyager is a relatively new ship class. And you honestly can’t tell me that Voyager is “too old” when Starfleet still has Miranda and Excelsior class ships still in service. So Voyager being too irregular in its design after all the modifications is about the only reason I can think of
Seven years in the Delta Quadrant without refits or proper maintenance seems to have done a proper number on her.
@@rulerofdiscordnah man, every ship in the fleet has since adopted bio neural circuitry and isolinear hybrid computer systems, they decommissioned it because starfleet RnD got their hands on it and tore every non essential part from it's Hull for research. They added a stellar cartography room, the database filled with so many planets and scans, the doctor, borg enhancements done multiple times, the transphasic torpedo and the ablative shield, neelixes cooking, etc
Voyager is a historically significant ship. Also the Voyager-A is on the way. Starfleet took two years to catalog and remove classified modifications from Voyager like Borg enhancements, Slipstream drive, deployable ablative armor and Borg killing torpedoes.
What did you do? Like dude the ship is under the control of the Borg and headed to a cube. If it gets there and you don’t have control back you will be a drone. That’s assuming you left the weapons and armor on the ship without that your toast, Voyager was never going to take a cube in a fire fight
God the voyager theme
I miss my wife, Tails. I miss her a lot.
I miss my wife :(
Woah, Fear itself
Yeah when you stop and think about it.
No time to cut them down, yet takes 3 seconds to cut one of them down. So he couldn't spare 6 more seconds?
Well, no. The Sullivan hologram circled back literally as they scampered away.
I love watching these clips but it makes me want to turn youtube off and put the show on..... so I'm off bye.....