Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2.7 - Those Old Scientists
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The whole T.O.S. standing for "Those Old Scientists" gag would be deserving of yet another Up.
Totally missed this one
I think it didn't because it got an up in the episode of Lower Decks where it was first mentioned (I forget which ep sorry)
@@TonySamedi Season 1, Episode 10; coined by Ransom
Maybe also "That old ship"? (I'll run and hide now)
Well, shit, man. We can't stay here all day!
I can't believe Sean missed an up. When Ortegas & Uhura say "are we sounding like.. them?" Spock says "Indeed, it is exhausting". Totally another up for Spock!
Agreed!
@@woahdudeitsme9742you mean, “Indeed.” 🤨
I'd call this another up for Ortegas & Uhura, but I totally agree.
Missed that one. Very funny
Sounds like UP no#82 to me!!!
Jack Quaid is so awesome. Being the son of two major Hollywood stars he could probably have coasted along like some others have been known to do. Only he didn't and now he's everywhere and somehow it doesn't get old seeing him show up in things because, as previously stated, he's awesome. He doesn't phone it in, he seems to genuinely love being an actor which makes him all the more appealing.
This is the first time I have seen him in a more comedy role and he kills it.
@@emilylewis5373 Well he's in The Boys but that's more dark comedy.
@@Itility_Peace_Of_Mind He's also Superman in one of the best recent interpretations of the character. Man has a lot of great range.
@@emilylewis5373 well keep in mind that he does comedy with Boimer on Lower Decks.. all he had to do here was to mimic Boimer's animated physical comedy.
He's really in so many things, scream, the boys, star trek
I still am floored by how they managed to have the LD crew act like lower deckers. And they had the SNW crew act like, well, regular officers. And at no point did either of them feel "wrong" or out of place. These are two HUGELY different shows, their style should NOT have worked as a mix, but they made it happen, and it worked. Astounding.
Well said. I seriously cannot believe what I just watched.
Oh, you're "floored" are you? 🤦
I agree. Especially with Mariner, I noticed that the actors made everything *slightly* subtler to be a bit more watchable and natural, but kept so much of the spirit of Lower Decks!
Agreed! This could have (should have?) been a disaster because of the mix of seemingly incompatible styles, but they made it work. Maybe it's because Boimler is kind of like Reginald Barclay (remember Barclay meeting Cochrane?).
Beautiful work from the writers, actors, Frakes, and McMahon.
When Spock starts to say his goodbye to Boimler, they have a wide shot and the look of happiness on Mariner's face that Boimler is going to have that experience just perfectly illustrated how much she truly cares about him.
Yes to this! She busts his chops for being a fanboy, but is truly excited for him when he has a dream come true moment and it’s just so sweet. The actors all did an amazing job.
Yes! Came here to point this out. HUGE up for me.
It’s so refreshing to see a writing team understanding the characters of the story they’re trying to tell.
This episode cannot be praised enough.
And the director. A script can be ruined if the director doesn't get it. Jonathan Frakes was the perfect director for this episode.
Pelia was quoting Cary Grant and I love that Boimler seemed to realize that after she finished speaking and that as a Lanthanite she would have been old enough to have met someone from that long ago.
I want Pelia to show up in Lower Decks now.
Ugh thank you. I knew that was a real quote, but couldn't place it.
@@shaunm2691 I want a Pelia series! I'm LOVING her character and cannot get enough of her. If you'd told me two years ago that a highlight of STAR TREK would be Carol Kane as an engineer, I might have thought you crazy. Her enigmatic nature and exoticness is just WONDERFUL!
I like to believe she was the one interviewing Grant when he said it.
Fun fact Carol Kane (Pelia) knew Cary Grant. It should have been thumb up
Mariner miming not only the beep chair but also the facial scar was such a brilliant and compact moment of physical comedy
How did I miss that?! Ok… must rewatch now!
I probably rewatched that one moment a dozen times. She CRUSHED it. Crushed it in this episode. Amazing.
I loved that. It was so visual.
Pelia's quote - “I always pretended to be someone I wanted to be until finally I became that someone, or he became me” - Cary Grant. Pelia met Cary Grant. How is that not an UP?
I was waiting for that too. But not only does it imply that Pelia met Cary Grant, but Carol Kane, who plays Pelia, actually did know Cary Grant.
What broke me for this episode was when Mariner told Boimler that the ancient Nausicaan glyphs on the time portal translated to "This is a time portal."
So very on brand for Naussicans.
Definitely a missed up! Excellent, useless information that poor uhura struggled so hard to figure out.
100% I noticed this too. Needed an up for sure 😂😂
Such a build up, and then, nothing. It was so Lower Decks, I loved that bit as well!
@@bartcouprie4986 It is beautiful writing - a perfect tiny joke, left for you to eventually remember.
Haven't seen anyone mention it, but my favourite little moment was that during Pike wishing he could have one more argument with his dad, the camera cuts to Mariner. Despite their arguments, she loves her parents a lot. Intentional or not, I thought that was beautiful.
I suspect it's a little more than that. Assuming this happens between S3 and S4 of Lower Decks Mariner is coming off the entire crew instantly assuming she landed them in trouble and her mom throws her off the ship. While things are at least a bit better between them by the end of the season there's a significant chance that things could have gone badly wrong and they'd never have the chance to fix things. In that moment with Pike Mariner probably sees where her own relationships could end up if things don't keep improving.
Excellent.
Your Dad wanting to be in this was amazing.
Hands down, this was the best episode of Star Trek in decades.
The genuine love and fangasm Sean is having while giving up after up is just infectious and amazing. And I'm right there with him. What an episode!
Sean completely lost his objectivity and went into fanboy mode.. :)
This episode was so much fun. It reminds me of the SG-1 episode "Wormhole X-Treme!" in that it's an episode made to reward the fans, and they absolutely killed it. This is getting a spot on my list of favorite Trek episodes.
Lol yes
Definitely one of my favorite Star Trek episodes!
How about "The Pegasus Project" from SG1?
Horonium, Nadquada 😂
Also reminds me of my single favourite Star Trek DS9 Episode: Trials and Tribble-ations, a mixing of TOS (Those Old Scientists era) and the DS9 crew, that was 100% a fan love letter episode, and this one blew it out of the water.
We always talk about the classic episodes we love from TOS, TNG, DS9 etc. I really hope that years from now we are still talking about this episode. It was truly perfect.
I agree. The idea of making a crossover between an animated show and a life action show to begin with - has that ever been done before? Certainly never to this level of perfection. And thank you for making Mariner and Boimler look so much like their voice actors, making this possible.
How did Sean miss the fact that Uhura's pad went from Bajorin to Cardassian in one swipe while she was working in the bar? If that's not retro foreshadowing, I don't know what is.
Love the term "retro foreshadowing"!
I thought the Federation didn’t make First Contact with the Cardassians until the early-24th Century?
@@jackhosier8498 They might have had information about the language from a third party, or a member of the federation without having, as a Federation made contact with them. That's how I'm explaining away that they had that information.
@@jackhosier8498 We know a famous Cardassian author was exiled to Vulcan and met with one of the previous Dax hosts. Not confirmed when exactly but the episode made it sound like a long time before the 2370s so probably pre-24th century
The problem with that scene is that it references Bajorans, Cardassians, and Nausicans all of whom had first contact with the Federation over a hundred years AFTER the time of Pike. At that time there were less than a dozen alien civilizations with which the Federation has made contact.
I adored this episode. This is up there with Trials and Tribulations for greatest fan service ever.
I also loved Pike being just so deadpan over it for the entire show. He does drama and comedy so well. I didn't think much of Mount before SNW, but he's continually amazed me with his range.
Great comedy needs people who are in on the joke but being the straight man. Pike's a great anchor for the silliness going on around him.
I'd be willing to bet that Kirk traces some of his humor as a captain, to Pike.
Honestly the one thing I kinda wish we'd seen is his reaction to Mariner switching from goofball to Disciple of Sisko. That moment of realisation that these future starfleet crew might act a bit weird but are absolutely *terrifying* when needs must would be gold. Still, on the plus side, there's always the chance of another crossover, right?
The part I liked most ... loved, was how they shifted back and forth between comedy and 'rip your heart out' emotional truths ... and made it work ... and made it better than either element would have been on its own. This is one of the great episodes of the franchise.
Great writing, direction and acting.
Agreed. This has to be near the top of all time great episodes.
This episode gave me so much joy! I realized I had been smiling so much my cheeks were aching. By the end, I had tears in my eyes. It was so, so good!
I think everything fits in my head now. Boimler and Mariner are from a ship that IS a little wacky, and the Lower Deckers are all crazy history geeks, but I think every ship in the fleet has a comedy, a drama, and a tragedy that can be filmed of it. What's happening with the Cerritos is, we're seeing their "The Trouble With Tribbles" moments more than their "City on the Edge of Forever" moments... but we really do see them, don't we? All the finales have dramatic moments with everything at stake, they just find the lighter side of it whenever possible.
they also kind of explain that the Cerretos isn't a major ship in the fleet so doesnt see the same amount of action/drama that say a galaxy class would
Not to mention that the lower deckers may be a bit perma-fried by how much Orion liquor they’ve had. That’s why they perceive themselves the way they do.
This episode reminded me most of "A Piece of the Action" and "Tomorrow is Yesterday" - kind a cross. The situation is closer to "Tomorrow is Yesterday" but the pure fun for the sake of fun nature of the episode is even more like "A Piece of the Action." At the same time, I should point out that "Tomorrow is Yesterday" has some fun humor too like the computer calling Kirk "dear" and Kirk suggesting that the computer be scrapped if the malfunction can't be fixed. Oh yes, and Spock saying that the computer has an annoying habit of giggling. Captain Christopher is quite amused by the problems the Enterprise crew has. Oh yes, and when the USAF major down on Earth tells Kirk he's going to lock him up for 200 years, Kirk says, "That should be just about right."
One thing I noticed that Sean also missed.
In the original The Cage episode, Spock actually smiled and laughed before the idea of Vulcans being non-emotional was created.
So Spock experimenting with emotions in this timeframe which is right before that episode actually helps support canon that was questioned before now!
This is Spock's Pon Farr year so letting emotions run wild goes with that.
Deep cut! High-quality Cetacean Observation!
Best episode of SNW yet, as soon as I saw in the credits that Frakes directed it, I knew it'd be one of the best...
Frakes directed it ? Don't all his episodes start upside down ? I don't remember this, so I'll have to watch again.
On top of the metahumor of the Una/Ransom thing, I wouldn't be surprised if the "pin-up" misunderstanding were a reference to Rebecca Romijn's modeling career. 🤔 This episode was amazing, it absolutely killed. 🤩👌
Oh nice deep cut there. They way they came through the portal was like in _Sliders_ in which Jerry O'Connell played the lead role.
@@billkeithchannel Oh wow, I didn't even _think_ about a Sliders reference! That _is_ a _hella_ deep cut!
Watched this at San Diego Comic Con in a filled Hall H and it was such a treat watching with real fans all reacting to so many fun and touching moments in this episode. It was hilarious and i already watched it again at home!
I absolutely loved that last scene of the SNW crew.. They're so high on the Orion booze that WE see them as cartoons. Brilliant!
Living off the grid reminded me of Orville's navigator Gordon who got flung back in time, lived off the grid for years, couldnt take it any more and started a family only for his family to be wiped out of history
Star Trek is a 400 year old TV show in the Orville universe. As a teen Gordon made an Environmental Simulation of the Enterprise to take his "dates" to and even had "Wesley" and his mother as NPCs.
A clip of Gordon's teen experience is on RUclips. "Scott Grimes in TNG"
That was such a gutpunch of an episode. Almost a Black Mirror plot with how grim it got toward the end.
@@DanielSolis Yes agreed. It gets me bawling every time. I'd understand if Gordon did kill them all that night
Picard's orders in First contact to the Enterprise crew to find a patch of land and stay out of history's way
That was a fantastic but yet sad episode 😢
When Una is trying to get Mariner to elaborate what she means by her being a pin-up, this is also a reference to when the actress was Rebecca Romijn-Stamos the model, resulting in many pin-ups of her being made.
This may honestly be my favorite episode of the franchise ever.
It would be on a top 100 list of all time great episodes
When it first began, I thought it was going to be a sitcom episode. The only thing missing was a laugh tract. Once it got going it was great, and yes it was a comedy episode, but the pacing was a thing of beauty. Well done to everyone for a wonderful show.
I think this is turning out to be one of the best years for the Star Trek franchise. Many of us were excited when we learned about this crossover episode. I don't think any of us were disappointed.
We'll see how that new show coming out next month helps the other "Star" franchise.
I'll go a little further and say. As big a fan as we might all be, I don't think any of us understood just high brilliantly good it was going to be. This is the first cross-over any I've seen of any franchise that I can say was... flawless!
Mariner commenting on young spock’s hotness cracked me up so hard 🤣
Shout out to Tawny Newsome and Jack Quaid for reproducing their animated characters mannerisms so perfectly and still make it believable within the SNW live action universe.
Spock's reaction to the comment on Pike's hair was hugely funny. I in particular saw that as a cheeky nod to the fans 'Pikes perfect hair' comments , they hear us lol.
That walk of Boimler's is as legendary as the TAS Filmation "Character starts to run" scenes. @GazelleAutomations
It was like Dax crushing on Spock.
Totally agree that this is the best episode of modern era Star Trek. So many awkward moments done perfectly and that ending. Chefs kiss
Loved this episode. It's great that they left in when Boimler shouts "Riker" when he gets on Pike's saddle.
The irony is that Frakes only did that because he had a bad back and it hurt too much to sit down in a chair properly.
@@billkeithchannel Did not know that. Thanks for sharing :-)
by far one of the most enjoyable episodes because it not only pokes fun at their over-arching fandom of the old Treks but the old Treks are fans of the oldest Treks and the oldest Treks are fans of the original person to hit warp 1 who is a fan of the original aeronautical... it's just such a happy train of thought. I know some people really dislike the idea of writing characters who are fans of the show they are in... but when you have so many generations (literally at this point) of fans of the same thing... you kind of have to acknowledge it or it just starts to get weird.
I sincerely enjoyed watching how much Seán enjoyed this episode. If I did an Ups & Downs of the Ups & Down videos, I would have given that a huge Up.
At first I was annoyed that this was another Lower Decks episode when there's so few SNW episodes in a season to begin with, but there was just enough development squeezed in for the core SNW cast. Master class in writing!
I really like how they wove in La'An's time travel angst, it made perfect sense in the context of the episode
The flicker on the ‘down’ counter when Sean said ‘Uhura downs her drink’ was great.
One of the best episodes I’ve seen for any trek series. So well done.
Not going to lie i was dreading this episode, thought it was going to be awful. I couldn't have been more wrong. Somehow, they managed to do justice to both shows without screwing it up. Which is one hell of an achievement considering how different both shows are. Love it!!!!!!
We can thank Johnathan Frakes for that. :) Seriously! Yes, he NAILED it!! Perfection even the Borg would envy! ;)
I don't watch S T Strange New Worlds, but when I read this was a Lower Decks cross over "Trek Culture" I started watching Sean and in less that 5 mins of a 40 min vlog I paused and watched S02E07 of Strange New Worlds. I then came back and finished watching Sean, now S02E07 of Strange New Worlds is in my top 5 Star Trek Episodes of the new era. 👍👍👍👍👍
It was an amazing episode. The Lower Decks uniforms looked amazing in live-action. I want one now.
There was so much Trek in this episode! Not just the two crews crossing over, but all the love dropped throughout that brought in elements from every other series. Outstanding recap!!! How long until we’re figuring out where this ranks in the Top 10 best Trek episodes of all time?? LLAP and thanks Sean and all you fine folks at Trek Culture
I thought it was interesting that Boimler or somebody said the portal was last known to be active 120 years ago, and then they end up going back 120 years to that point in time.
It's probably a predestination paradox: THEY were the ones whom history recorded as having used it 120y prior; it's just that their identities were not known to history or themselves, because Pike agreed to let the Orion take credit.
My wife is not into Star Trek like I am (huge Uber Geek for it here) but I watched this episode with her and all she could say was "I can't believe how much you are geeking out about this." I loved all the references, and the live action Boimler and Marinier were spot on.
My husband thought I was crazy!
You know that when you're just into the opening credits and already at thirteen ups that it's a good ep
I was actually worried before this episode came out because Lower Decks and SNW are my favorites of the new trek, but kudos to everyone involved they totally killed it. This is a perfect episode of Trek involving my two favorite shows. Thank you, it was brilliant.
I've been watching Trek since the first episode of TOS. This is my favorite episode of all time.
The smile Spock gave Boimler after he made the joke about maybe losing an hand sent chills down my spine
I wish I had a dollar for every time I said, “that’s an up” while watching this episode!
I was really rooting for 99 ups.
Yes, a truly significant episode of all episodes in Trek.
I have to say this is the absolute Best episode of any Star Trek that I have ever seen . The writers where really on the money with this one combining the animated with the real trek pure genius and all the references to the other shows pure genius I would love to see more episodes done in this fashion. I started watching StarTrek since 1967 and have been hooked ever since
Also Boimler oooing and ahhh-ing over M'Benga's tricorder reminded me of Jadzia pointing out the "chrome" accents and classic design in DS9's Trials and Tribble-ations. I was really hoping either Boimler or Mariner was going to ask Pike to sign a padd like Sisko asked Kirk to.
For me this is best crossover episode ever, not just Star Trek, best crossover ever for any franchise!
Starbase Earhart was also the location Picard was stabbed in Tapestry.
I got the chance to meet Jack Quaid at Houston's Comicpalooza in 2023, before this episode aired. He was there with his fellow actors from the Boys; I grabbed a picture of Boimler for him to sign and he geeked out when he saw it. I made the comment to him that I couldn't wait for the crossover episode and he geeked out a second time! It was so awesome to see him get so excited for that. Now I just need an autograph from Mr. Tatasciore on a picture of Shaxs, because he's my spirit animal.
6:52 i loved Boimler’s arrival. It reminded me of the portal in Enchanted.
_Sliders_ in which Jerry O'Connel played Quinn Mallory and is married to #1 IRL.
I skipped the intro first time, thanks for telling me, I just went straight back to Paramount+ and watched it. Brilliant! xx
This episode has to be the most UPS ever. : ) It was a great episode and laughing non stop.
I think I may have laughed more at this edition of Ups & Downs than I did during the actual SNW episode.
Take an UP for yourself!
True that.
Can’t say I’m a hardcore ST fan (just enjoy it a lot), but to me this is THE BEST EPISODE I’VE EVER SEEN (not just the best ST episode).
Loved it so much in so many levels that it touched me deeply. I felt like Mariner’s thumbs up and Boimler’s smile looking directly to the camera was a 4th wall break, they were looking at me, understanding what I was feeling so far. And it caught me completely off guard, like they were watching it with me, thinking “yeah, we know, right?”.
I also loved how caring Boimler was toward Pike… from his perspective, Pike’s gone, whatever happened, already happened… but he was worried about Pike… not about his demise, but about his personal feelings.
Saw this ep 3 times in a row
If Mariner ever stops rebelling against her mom, she'll be the most competent officer Starfleet ever has.
Between Mariner and Sisko, those two might be responsible for a renaissance of Starfleet competence.
OMG!!! This is the BEST Strange New Worlds episode...PERIOD!!!
Been waiting for this episode of Trek Culture! Absolutely perfect crossover. 🤩
54 ups in and still no down 🙂 Loving this episode.
And yeah! ChrisEdit needs a couple of shots of Orion Hurricanes.
I loved that the inscription on the time portal, simply said, "This is a time portal"
This is clearly Jonathan Frakes Magnum Opus.. How will he ever be able to top directing this perfect episode?
I've seen every Trek episode, and this was the first one ever that I immediately rewatched. I felt that this was just the best I've ever seen and just felt so chuffed that you did as well
Pelia and Boimler talking about the warp core is a total callback as well!
This episode didn't disappoint. Imagine how the crew would respond if they see Boimler again in "future". Or maybe another version of him called William from section 31.
I can't believe ive watched this twice, it appeals to the boy in me who first saw the original series in Australia and then devoured the paperback short stories, yup, I'm a fanboi, and this video was beyond fantastic, it was awesome.!!
Oh, this is also my favorite episode in the modern Star Trek era so far. I think it is also in my top 10 favorite episodes of Star Trek for all time as well!
This was such a great episode! I'm also glad that there has been very little "wow this is just fan service" chat on the internet, so thank you world for being cool with it all!
The episode was simply fantastic, everything about it worked .
That, by far, was up there as one of the top best episodes of any Star Trek series episode ever.
3 months old and after this I'm so going to watch this episode of SNW again 😂 thanks TC.
Thought you'd get to triple digit ups on this one. What a fun frickin episode. Loved it.
It's the best! I watch it over and over!!!
One of my favorite start trek episodes
I'm not sure if it's been said but one point which may have been missed is the movie night which is on a Friday, if I remember right it was the same on the NX-01 Enterprise, which suggests this may be a tradition that's been kept going since the NX-01, may be even a tradition throughout most of Starfleet's ships.
Nobody has stated the elephant in the room that this episode (and Ready Room) dropped super early instead of waiting for this Thursday.
@@billkeithchannel They're feeling the strike.
@@billkeithchannel Apparently, it's because A) it was to be shown at San Diego Comi-Con on Saturday, and 2) dropping it on Saturday had it debut on the 50th anniversary of the debut of Star Trek TAS.
@@rdfox76 Wow. Brilliant tie-ins. Sounds like the producers are finally getting a clue after the First Contact Day fiasco (non-event).
I skipped this episode when it was released because I hadn't seen the episode of SNW at that time. I watched it last week, and it is by far my favorite SNW episode of all time!
Also, I absolutely love that this is the second episode of Ups and Downs I've seen with NO Downs at all!
man i have never enjoy a you tube content about star trek so much as this video it single handling make me subscribe to the channel , great work,Trekkie foreverer
Starbase Airheart is a direct reference to Tapestry. That's where Picard was.
Earhart.
the story was pure star trek but it was also completely self aware. just so fun.
I haven't wartched the episode yet but seen enough clips to get the idear. 10/10 masterpiece
Probably one of the best episodes and Frakes, You are a genius
Joy. That’s all you need to know about this episode. It will bring you joy. Also, you now have no choice but to yell “Riiiker” when you swing your leg over something
Not sure if my gf would get it or appreciate it if she did 😂Could you imagine if done often enough she was compelled to ask where it came from....'um, it was the saddle scene'. Sorry, just how my humor works🤣
one thing i did enjoy about the "Holy Q" bit and then the mention of Trelane is that it was also a head nod to the 1994 Peter David Novel Q-Squared, where Q was godfather to Trelane (who was established as a juvinile Q in the story and effectively had to babysit him.. subtle but a welcomed little nod :).. also but its totally throwaway, when ortegas mentions her high school being named after meriweather, it kinda echoed what Laforge said to Cochrane in First contact that he went to a high school named after his favourite historical engineer. (nice little nuggets i am glad were included)
Fan service episodes are always fun! This episode reminds me of Stargate SG-1' episodes 100 and 200.
Definitely a fan service heavy episode. I love it so much!
The Orion captain pronounces it funny, but the grain is literally quadrotriticale so it is absolutely a Trouble with Tribbles reference
I think he said tri-triticale. But definitely a reference.
It's tritriticale (three-lobed). Quadrotriticale from "The Trouble With Tribbles" was four-lobed. And in the animated series episode "More Tribbles, More Troubles" there was quintotriticale, being five-lobed. They're supposedly all evolutions (or genetic modifications) of the real life grain triticale.
I did not realize that!
First time on your channel and I had a blast. Love Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks.
(Discovery... not so much.)
Loved this. Keep up the good work. 👍
Spock and the LLAP moment with Boimler hearkens back to Galaxy Quest and the "by Grabthar's Hammer' death scene as well.
Normally I only have to dodge the latest ups and downs video for a few hours at most on a Thursday, as I wait until the episode of SNW airs on CTV Sci-Fi Channel at 9 PM Eastern. However, for *DAYS* now I have had to resist with all my willpower to NOT click on the thumbnail as I was going through RUclips...just like I've had to skip SO many posts on Facebook and my one Discord. But *FINALLY* I am able to see it and see this.
I will admit Sean, I had the same feeling you did when Pike mentioned how this coming birthday will be the first that he'll be older then his late father. My father introduced me to Star Trek over 45 years ago now. He passed away 4 years ago, and while that point in my life isn't for quite a number of years in the future, it still hit me in the feels, how will I think about it when that point in my life comes around.
Also, a *PLUS EIGHTY* on the counter? Yeah, I do believe that that *IS* a record here.
Sean, I doubt you would have noticed, but I am not always a fan of your work. And, holy cow, 81 ups and a -1 down-as you yourself said, that’s just ridiculous. And brilliant. Well done. No notes. More like this, please. 😊🎉🎉🎉🖖🏼
Lots of moments I teared up, but my favorite was when Una learns about the true meaning behind the poster. To go from being rejected by Starfleet for who she is, to learning that in the future she isn't only accepted but celebrated. I found it incredibly touching. Some of the best Trek in years. Keep it up!
Mine was when Pike said that it would be officially recorded that Orion SCIENTISTS found the portal. The Orion captain was almost in tears when he said, "...that's all I ever wanted."
Oh my gosh thank you for pointing that out for me. I had already forgotten about Unas past. That’s wonderful. Thank you again
@@kregadeth5562 of course! The writing has been great and has been genuinely touching. I found this so thoughtful.
I noticed that this episode brought Una and Pike’s stories a surprising level of depth. Una thought that being an Illyrian made her an outcast from Starfleet, but knowing that she’ll become *the* face of Starfleet recruitment gave her a sense of validation, while Pike learning that his birthday will be a major holiday, and people will dress up as him for Halloween gives him hope that his upcoming sacrifice won’t be in vain.
Yeah, I choked up hearing that she was so respected. She deserves it.
The look on Una’s face when Boimler says Ad Astra Per Aspera and the way she says “They put that on a poster?” I was done. Just right in the feels. That would be my dilithium up.
I literally teared up during this scene and was coming on here to comment about it. Then I saw your comment so, well said and I agree it's my dilithium up!
@@MrSoccerdad68
Ditto
Yep...that started the tears and they didn't stop for the rest of the episode
Are those different from latinum ups?
@@Ducky69247 its for one of those rare moments where latinum is no longer enough to encapsulate the greatness of one scene
With Spock smiling. This ties in nicely when he smiled in the TOS The Cage. This was a masterpiece of an episode. Amazing. Jonathan Frakes did a wicked job directing
Did you see The Cage? Spock only smiled ONCE, he did not laugh or joke around.
@@theodorehaverson5079 - He also shouts when the women are transported off the ship without the men. This episode of SNW helps to explain this discrepancy between the original pilot and what they chose to do with the character for the rest of the show.
@@RictusHolloweye Spock also smiled at Kirk while they were playing chess at the beginning of the second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before".
The little sinister sting with Creepy Spock Smile was just chef's kiss addition to the comedy of it.
My personal headcanon and theory:
Boimler encouraging the crew to celebrate Captain Pike's birthday would lead to the tradition of ships having a Captain's day, which would later become, as we see, Captain Picard day and Captain Freeman's day, the favorite holiday of children and Boimler.
I love this idea
now it's my headcanon too, love this
Headcanon aside, I couldn't help but wonder if Boimler is the reason Spock and Chapel never end up together. He planted the seeds of doubt in them.
I think captain's day goes back to the age of sail, but I might be wrong. In any case, traditions, set holiday dates, and celebrations are incredibly imporant for morale regardless of whether the crew is in the middle of the ocean or the great cosmic fuckall.
I wonder why Boimler didn't say anything weird about Laan's name.
When Number 1 found out she was the literal poster child for recruitment for Star Fleet, was the single most touching moment of the entire episode, as emotional as her own trial was at the end - this beat it.
That was a gem moment. To me, it was the scene that gives the, There's hope for our future .
And it's also a great joke/reference -- as Rebecca Romijn WAS on a lot of pinup posters in the 90s.
Definitely my trillium up.
That callback was everything.
Yes! It was so nice to see her get emotional when she realized after all she went through, Starfleet was going to use HER as the poster girl/woman.
Another up was the look on Mariner's face when Boiler gets the "Live Long and Prosper" from Spock. She is mouth agape and so excited FOR Boimler. She knows it's a big deal for him. It's really sweet.
There's another little Mariner moment that I think gets missed from very early on. When Boimler gets portal'd (because of COURSE he does) watch Mariner. She's only a step behind him (and still on her feet which is impressive in and of itself considering Boimler gets pulled in horizontally) and dashes in just as it turns off. No thought to her own safety, just focused on saving her friend.
She's a great friend to him. She loves him.