So after exchanging messages with you regarding the role of rising, I decided to start training my rise specifically once a week. Same exercise that you recommend, lifting a weight off the floor with a strap. When I first started 7 weeks ago I was barely doing 23kg, very weak. The progress has been extremely rapid since, and now I can comfortably do 28kg for 8 reps. I'm not sure how that translates to 1RM but I've realised my riser isn't as bad as I thought it was; it's just that I didn't train that exercise specifically.
@@ChrisDrummondAW yordan tsonev handle minimal cup from the front high and side pressuring it to the pad. I am insanely strong in my cup and inside movements but i csnt even rise 20kg after 3 years of training. F.e. my max side pressure lift is 55kg also with the tsonev handle. My question is do i need a riser as a shoulder roller with average forearm length but big hands. It didnt seem to have mattered yet because i usually get top 3 in national tournaments losing to only hookers with shorter forearms.
mine are small too. In fact 0 people ranked above me (at least in the 242s) have smaller hands. So i spent the last couple of years very intentionally growing my thumb muscles. It’s made a difference without question.
@@ChrisDrummondAW Yes I can tell, your thumb has lot of muscle at the base. Do pointy fingers make it uncomfortable for opponent? like curling your thumb and pronating with a pointy ass thumb right into back of opponent hand? Or is that bad manners.
I think it’s not a very effective use of energy and tbh if getting one’s hand squeezed tightly is painful enough that it makes you lose a match then they probably shouldn’t be an armwrestler.
If you have a weak riser you’ll have a harder time setting up to hook. Deep separation with the pinky is driven by riser and when you supinate in from a higher grip you get a much better position. It also is a critical feature of regripping in a stopped match. Can you just grab in and rip a guy down? Maybe, but eventually you’ll get stopped by a guy of similar strength who can out-adjust you and the difference might be down to whether you spend 15 minutes twice a week on riser or not. It doesn’t impact most other training so imo there’s no reason not to train it other than laziness.
I genuinely didn’t think my riser was world class if you want to see me post some videos of me doing riser of 100 pounds I can post it my best ever on riser is 110 pounds until I saw this video I thought it was weak I can post it if you would like to see it just let me know
Yeah show us for sure. If you can legitimately lift 100+ lbs over your knuckles I don’t know how you could possibly think it was weak, you’d easily be toprolling high-level professionals and never have your knuckles dropped by someone else.
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Every little bit helps make my dreams come true which hopefully helps other people’s dreams as well.
I'm glad I discovered this channel, very helpful info, especially on the post style toproll. I will definitely use it at my next competition.
So after exchanging messages with you regarding the role of rising, I decided to start training my rise specifically once a week. Same exercise that you recommend, lifting a weight off the floor with a strap. When I first started 7 weeks ago I was barely doing 23kg, very weak. The progress has been extremely rapid since, and now I can comfortably do 28kg for 8 reps. I'm not sure how that translates to 1RM but I've realised my riser isn't as bad as I thought it was; it's just that I didn't train that exercise specifically.
That thumbnail looks mischievous 😂
Great info, thanks for the video💪
Agreed!
Very great content , especially for a beginner like me. 8 months into the sport. subscribed
Great as allways chris 😊
60 lbs is my absolute max, wrist dumps at 62.5
Very accurate!!
training my rizer as i watch this video
Those guys have extremely long arms which makes the lift more difficult. But yes 90lb is very very good.
I managed to do 91.1 lb yesterday, my previous PR was 86.3lb
loading pin makes up for the odd weight
strong
Update
After your riser form PSA video
I found out I was doing slightly wrong so my 1RM is 81lb
I have natural strong riser, cupping, and back pressure. But i have weak sidepressure and pronator. What technique should i try?
You should try making your pronation better, then maybe everything will suit you. Without solid pronation, though, you'll struggle in any style.
@@ChrisDrummondAW thanks for answere. Am working with it!
@@ChrisDrummondAW thank you for answere! I wil work out pronasjon!
My max rise is 18 KG but my containment is 45 KG. What should i do??
Containment in what movement? Regardless, the answer is keep training.
@@ChrisDrummondAW yordan tsonev handle minimal cup from the front high and side pressuring it to the pad. I am insanely strong in my cup and inside movements but i csnt even rise 20kg after 3 years of
training. F.e. my max side pressure lift is 55kg also with the tsonev handle.
My question is do i need a riser as a shoulder roller with average forearm length but big hands. It didnt seem to have mattered yet because i usually get top 3 in national tournaments losing to only hookers with shorter forearms.
I just want that muscle seperation halfway down the top of my forearm like those dudes have 😢
Don’t worry about forearms, nothing is as important as having really jacked thumbs.
@@ChrisDrummondAW my hands are small lol, but strong i guess. I do the gripping stuff that Jodi Chocolate Thunder does
mine are small too. In fact 0 people ranked above me (at least in the 242s) have smaller hands. So i spent the last couple of years very intentionally growing my thumb muscles. It’s made a difference without question.
@@ChrisDrummondAW Yes I can tell, your thumb has lot of muscle at the base. Do pointy fingers make it uncomfortable for opponent? like curling your thumb and pronating with a pointy ass thumb right into back of opponent hand? Or is that bad manners.
I think it’s not a very effective use of energy and tbh if getting one’s hand squeezed tightly is painful enough that it makes you lose a match then they probably shouldn’t be an armwrestler.
Is Riser useful for Deep Hook?
Or as a Hook armwrestler, can I just neglect Riser training?
If you have a weak riser you’ll have a harder time setting up to hook. Deep separation with the pinky is driven by riser and when you supinate in from a higher grip you get a much better position. It also is a critical feature of regripping in a stopped match. Can you just grab in and rip a guy down? Maybe, but eventually you’ll get stopped by a guy of similar strength who can out-adjust you and the difference might be down to whether you spend 15 minutes twice a week on riser or not. It doesn’t impact most other training so imo there’s no reason not to train it other than laziness.
@@ChrisDrummondAW thanks sir for the advice.
@@ChrisDrummondAW How would rising strength matter for setting up? There's no requirement to load in the setup.
What's your chess elo?
-2882
@@ChrisDrummondAW Haha
I genuinely didn’t think my riser was world class if you want to see me post some videos of me doing riser of 100 pounds I can post it my best ever on riser is 110 pounds until I saw this video I thought it was weak I can post it if you would like to see it just let me know
Yeah show us for sure. If you can legitimately lift 100+ lbs over your knuckles I don’t know how you could possibly think it was weak, you’d easily be toprolling high-level professionals and never have your knuckles dropped by someone else.
Chris, can you show an exercise to hypertrophy Adductor pollicis Brevis to make it harder for my opponent to hold on?
I have a video on how I train my thumbs, check that out.
I managed to budge 41kg few cm off the ground, although arm was not parrallel to the floor, more like 30-45 degrees compared to it. I was shocked tbh.
That’s very heavy. Not many people can do that.
@@ChrisDrummondAW I know, which is why Im surprised