It's been so hard. Last night I prayed and I opened the Bible. I came before him, broken. Like in Psalms 88, I felt that I was crying out day and night before Him, but that last night I truly broke down. So, I opened the Bible asking for a sign and I opened it up to Isaiah 41.. "fear not, for I am with you". God is good. Surely then he loves me and he is here WITH me. I asked him if I was accepted and I opened my Bible up again. Luke 10:25-37. God is good. God does not hate. When judgment comes, it's for everyone. We will all be judged. We will all fall short before his glory. We will all fall in his mercy. Amen.
God bless you my friend. I am a LGBTQ Christian and have faced so much pain and hurt from my church communities in the past. I have, like many of the LGBTQ community, felt rejection to the point of considering taking my own life. I couldn't accept myself for who I am. I despised myself. God has shown me that I am his precious child and he has held me close during these times of struggle. I have grown in my faith and in my relationship with the loving, perfect, beautiful God I believe in. "The Lord is close to the broken-hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit" - Psalm 34, 18. God bless all of you. No matter what you believe, where you stand on issues of debate, NO MATTER WHAT, our perfect God loves you and calls you to be his child.
*The thing that gets me the most about pro LGBT+ Christians today is that I don't think the basis of their arguments are coming from the Bible but from society. The Bible clearly shows that God despises homosexuality but society is saying that "love is love". So it makes me wonder who these "christians" are following: God or Man?*
Even Christians who have studied theology to doctoral level have disagreements on how to interpret particular passages of the Bible. Christians can have different beliefs on topics and still be faithful followers of Christ. It is not our place to say who is or isn't a Christian. The basic requirement needed to be a Christian is to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. If you begin to make other qualifications then eventually you will find that NONE of us deserve to be in relationship with God. But then that is the centre point of our faith. Jesus Christ died for us because none of us are good enough. Referring to LGBTQ+ Christians as "Christians" in quote marks is making us an outsider and an "other". But under Christ Jesus all are equal. NO ONE is excluded from God's Kingdom. God bless you
@@jessy9933 *"NO ONE is excluded from God's kingdom." I'm pretty certain murderers, rapists, thieves, gang bangers and drug dealers aren't making it into heaven.*
@@starhunter9085 many of the key figures in the Bible were very flawed. Paul approved of the murder of Stephen. King David was an adulterer and murderer. Even those who murdered Jesus - Jesus said "forgive them father". It's tough to think that people who commit atrocities can be forgiven and can be Christians but scripture would suggest that in fact, they can.
Thank you Noah for sharing your experience. Shedding the lies we were taught by the "traditional" church is difficult but so important to learn to love like Jesus did. I'm trying to listen and learn more everyday and your message will help me do that. God Bless You Friend
So god lies cause it’s plainly stated many many times that this is a sin. Christians do not hate gays at all, well most dont. But we do hate people preaxhing a false doctrine
If there’s one thing I know it’s that God uses whoever he wants for his work. Thank you for sharing your story and bringing this awareness to the church! 💕
CCA please just tell me who on earth even among the most believing that does not have anything sinful or unrighteous about their lives?. God Almighty knows why He allows anyone endure anything. He will free them in His own time as they lean on Him, He never promised that the road would be easy, one thing is sure as Noah continuously leans on Yshweh, deliverance would sure come in His own time, His own time I repeat
We will never be accepted by religion. Personally i struggled for so long and the moment i came out the shackles of christianity and religion as a whole, i became more happy and found self worth. Your story is and forever will be valid.
Amen. This message was so timely. My husband and I are on the verge of leaving our church home over this issue. The lead pastor literally emailed these words to us - “we are welcoming, but not affirming.” I’m heartbroken. My husband wants to stay and fight for change. I just want to find a place where I know everyone is empowered to serve and lead as Christ calls. Please pray for our decision.
So, shall we then continue in sin that grace may abound? Paul replies with a resounding “God forbid” (Romans 6:2). To desire to continue in sin shows a misunderstanding of this abundant grace and a contempt for Jesus' sacrifice
Romans 3:23-28 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Amen. It was very hard for me to come out, even harder to my Christian friends and family. I’m thankful for my life and Gods purpose for me. Even if not everyone affirms me, I know who do and that God does as well.
@@Darwizzyjr shouldn’t people be with people they live though. You need to see it from his perspective though. Plus doesn’t Bible say God created us in his own image and loves us unconditionally. Life too short and people should live it to the fullest and be happy with someone they love
No man can serve two masters: for either he. will hate the one, and love the other; or else. he will hold to the one, and despise the other, Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths." 2 Timothy 4:3-4 NLT
I have a serious question, asked in good faith: How can one affirm homosexuality in light of the bible passages (both old and new testament) that call homosexuality "detestable" or an "abomination?" I watched this presentation in the hopes that a biblical justification would be offered. However, my question remained unanswered. For clarity: I am non-religious. Raised fundamentalist Christian. I'm also not straight and a HUGE part of my upbringing was that God was specifically pissed off about the fact that I was interested in men. I'm not here to tell anyone that the way they live or the things they believe are wrong. I'm just curious and hoping to learn. Thank y'all Edit: just to be double clear in case my profession of queerness wasn't enough, I agree with every reason he presented for why non straight people ought to be affirmed. These things are all extremely important, and I'm one of those "before the age of 25" statistics. Luckily I failed. But anyways, my question is purely theological in nature.
I appreciate your question; I too (a non-straight male) was hoping for at least some Biblical references to support the case being made for affirming LGBTQ church members.
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all Longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." II Tim. 4:2-4
Everybody love GOD. Let God Judge, not man- Seek God and he will direct you to the correct path of righteousness- To argue and feud is the trick of the enemy- Don't be tricked-
I just pamped into this testimony and I have found that am actually that person who is going through this as I have love for God and the church even today on my 30s I don't know how to disclose this to the church and the family. however through this am gaining my strength and ready to tell who am I. thank you very much Noah
Thank you for sharing your experience. As someone who desires to be an ally, how can I help to create a more inclusive space for the LGBTQIA+ community?
i don't think I have since I prob wouldn't remember but I don't think it's possible for someone to be re born again in MY opinion so don't take it personally😅
God said He/She/Them has set before us life and death and to choose life. Some would believe being LGBTQ is choosing death. But why would loving be choosing death? Finally, welcome and affirm yourself first and remember that even Jesus was rejected in His hometown but He kept on being and living.
God is a HE. HE is the FATHER not the Mother or whatever else. You're choossing death by not obeyimg His commandments. What you're calling love is not love by God's standards. You're loving your lust and your flesh more than you love Him.
@@kevgil2000 But when they define billions of people who are looking for the word Of God to live by, I think it is really important what someone says as a leader/Pasteur/priest.
*The thing that gets me the most about pro LGBT+ Christians today is that I don't think the basis of their arguments are coming from the Bible but from society. The Bible clearly shows that God despises homosexuality but society is saying that "love is love". So it makes me wonder who these "christians" are following: God or Man?*
I am gonna say something from my personal perspective of the Bible... I believe that everyone has to make their own convictions. For instance, some people (Christians) believe drinking in general is wrong, while others believe that drinking is fine but not to the point where you’re drunk. Same for tattoos, I believe it is fine to have tattoos, but my Bible teacher at my school (Christian School) who is very nice btw doesn’t believe in tattoos. He is a youth pastor... And my brother is also a youth pastor but he has tattoos... Now, the point I’m trying to prove is that, if ‘you’ feel deep in your heart it’s wrong, then its a sin for “you”. But if someone thinks feels in their heart it’s not a sin then it’s not sinful to them. I’ll give another example. My brother thinks tattoos are fine thinks it’s not a sin. My Bible teacher doesn’t think there fine so for “him” it’s a sin. So if both got tattoos then the teacher is the one sinning... I believe though that the only thing you can’t choose if it’s fine or not (by your heart) is the 10 Commandments. I think those are strictly said not to do. So yeah, that’s what I think of how things are.
The Ten Commandments were given to Moses before Jesus was born. Those were 10 basic commandments that set the principle for prayer and and ethics in Christianity but that was not meant to serve as a list of all sins not to commit. You need to read the Bible a little better
Thank you for sharing the truth of your experience, Noah - and for providing a first step for those who wish to listen in order to learn. You are a blessing to the Church universal, a word of life to those who have been unable to find acceptance in the Church, and an encouragement to me! Thank you for answering God's call on your life, in being the light of the world and the salt of the earth!
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
First of all I'm truly grieved to hear testimonies of many lgbt people's experience in the church. I'm truly saddened that anyone has to even contemplate suicide. God does love everyone. And we as believers should model that love to each other and to the rest of the world. God gave His only begotten Son that "whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). He truly desires a relationship with us and there is so much joy and peace in HIM which pass all of our understanding. With that being said. It is important to note that we should never lose sight that while God loves us, He is still Holy and does not affirm sin. Sin of any kind. He can't because it is contrary to His nature. God also does not contradict His Word. With love I say this but this gentleman gave no scriptures to back up anything he said. Rather it was just opinion and personal feelings.
What we should be affirming instead of specious things like “identity” is your true God-given purpose. You are a spiritual individual in a physical body. You are a citizen of heaven, not of the world. Instead of emphasizing delving into your worst sins in this life, you should be focused on your true life; eternal love and adoration as a child of God. If you cannot put your sins aside for Christ, Christ will throw you aside on the day of the LORD.
Well, with the attitude you have, let's hope you never get thrown aside. If you are suggesting that his accepting his gayness is one of the worst sins of his life, then I wonder what you think about discriminating against others or persecuting people who can't fit into your world ? I'm afraid there is a lot for you to learn on this issue, and I say this kindly.
I deeply believe you're deluding yourself, or you're worshipping some other god, that's not the God of the Bible. Calling yourself something doesn't make you that thing.
If all you can say is that they have to be deluding themselves to love God, then what does that say about you? Are you perfect? If not, you don’t meet His standard either. Should we revoke your Christianity card since you aren’t? Quit bugging about other people.
@@davidbivins953If they loved God, then they would at least try to obey his wishes. I'm definitely not perfect - no one is, hence why Jesus needed to make the sacrifice in the first place, but I don't go around purposely flaunting my sin and saying nonsense like "oh, but I love God and he loves me, so that's all that matters." whilst trying to convince gullible people to believe the same. All they're doing is trying to appease their own guilt and justify their sin which at the end of the day is nothing more than self worship becuase the only person who's feelings you care about is your own, not God. That seems more like a 'do as thou wilt' mindset to me.
@@h3ll0gudbye, I shouldn’t have to be someone I know I’m not in order to obey God’s wishes. There are things I can and cannot control and my bisexuality is one of them.
@@bounty8438 "I shouldn’t have to be someone I know I’m not in order to obey God’s wishes." Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. (Matthew 16:24) "There are things I can and cannot control and my bisexuality is one of them." But the fruit of the Spirit is... self-control. (Galatians 5:22-23)
Noah, wow!!! And you gave thistle while married to Callie!!!! And all the while looking down on and deliberately throwing out a family who spent the last 7 years loving and caring for Callie mother as she was dying after a stroke!!! Causing me to put having a pace maker put in out of being bullied to leave without even do legal process!! Wow! To bad everyone here doesn't know the real you like I am having the opportunity of seeing!! God have mercy on your soul!!
Roman's 1:26-27 are brought up to me alot. What do I say? Is it still a sin? I'm a woman loving woman, but when I read that verse I feel confused and guilty
What stands out to me is at the end it says "all lust, no love" I think that's the difference between you and what they're trying to tell you that you are
When I hear videos like this it's always someone's feelings vs scripture. Your feelings "affirm" you but scriptures "transform" you. Jesus did not come to affirm anybody where they are, that's more of a non-christian "people" thing.
I do not understand why people keep mixing christianity and some kind of things. If we are able to define christianity then we will be able to draw a line and understand what so ever people put in front of us with all their so call facts. I come in peace lol
Talking won't help! Come to Christ and be prepared to give it all up for Him. It's a hard thing for everyone. Don't expect to be a drunkard, come to Christ & try to justify yourself with God's word on wine. How can you become born again, recieve the Holy Spirit & then grieve & stifle the Spirit with sin or substance that alters your mind and heart. Got to give it all up 1st or take the alternate road where the gate is wide rather than the hard road where the gate as narrow and not too many enter. It's a hard thing
You spoke for 12 minutes and did not quote one scripture to back up what you said...even if its a testimony it should have scriptures to back it up. I have a 5 minute testimony and it has 6 scriptures!
Infact you gave statistics 🤣🤣🤣 and dictionary definition of awareness...and affirmation 😅 let me be clear ..... if God truly called you...then repent of your sins and follow him!
No man can serve two masters: for either he. will hate the one, and love the other; or else. he will hold to the one, and despise the other, Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
@@pickmegirl5706 I've been through a lot of reincarnation and one of them I had that v head shape that he's is purposely promoting on his chest..... You would have to be from the occult to catch things like that I'm the real Illuminati that other secret society that calls they self the illuminated ones which he is representing are posers
Christians believe in Jesus and he can do all things he is the miracle and he gives us life though we are dead in sin he is the resurrection all have sinned and fall short of the kingdom of God the Bible tells it is not by our deeds but by our faith that we are saved so no man can boast. Our flesh is under the law of sin but our mind delights in person law of God.
God the father knew we could not stop our sin nature by our deeds so he sent God the son (Jesus) to die for our sins all we are called to do is believe in Christ and we shall not die the spiritual but have eternal life amen.
@@jafarrih Faith without works is dead. "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that *faith without works is dead?* [...] Do you see that faith was *working together with his works*, and *by works faith was made perfect*?" -James 2 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but *ONLY the one who does the will of my Father*" -Matthew 7:21
This guy mentions nothing of what the apostles taught. He only mentions his own ideology which is why he thinks he can be Christian and practice homosexuality. Sad.
@@rawgirl503 According to Matthew 28:20, Jesus gave authority to the apostles to teach everything he had taught them, so did the apostle Paul derail from Jesus' teaching when he taught the Corinthians and Timothy that homosexuals would not enter heaven? What was Paul's reason for writing this to fellow Christians?
I feel for this gentleman and I sympathize with his issue. GOD, the Bible and JESUS CHRIST says homosexuality is a sin. If I had a problem of committing adultery with one or more women or even men. This is a sin. If I went to the church and brought this aspect of my life up and ask for direction this is what I would expect to hear: GOD loves you no matter your sins, HE wants you to repent of your sin, HE wants you to turn away from sin and lead a life led by GOD and with HIS favor. We are all sinners. Just because I sin differently it doesn't give me a right to judge anyone's sin especially because I am not without fault. I believe church is safe place to come as we are and learn to be transformed to be favorable with our actions in the sight of GOD. I'm sure if I brought my latest fling in every Sunday it would not be looked at in a positive manner. It would be the same if brought in a product of any other sin. I would completely understand and would have no problem understanding the church. Acceptance and tolerance definitely needs to exist in the church but it also needs to be reflected in the person that wants to receive the same in return. Grace is the proper term. Do onto others as you would have done onto you. GOD bless you on your journey and may GOD bless you with the right support system in dealing with this issue. In whatever sin GOD loves you and I accept you as you are.
Hahah, no, you are to live your life in service and seeking God, Matt 6;33, Isaiah 55;6-7, have confidence in knowing the word of God Prov 3;26, having self-confidence only serve 'self', not God, having self-confidence is putting yourself above God and saying he had no hand in helping you achieve whatever goal you had. You fail to see that if not for God there would be no universe, no earth, no life, and no you...Food for thought might want to go back and check that out ...😊😊😊
"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that *faith without works is dead?* [...] Do you see that faith was *working together with his works*, and *by works faith was made perfect*?" -James 2 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but *ONLY the one who does the will of my Father*" -Matthew 7:21
Hey guy, you need to blame Mahatma Gandhi, for his famous(Not Biblical true) quote, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." You're obviously a reprobate. Your heart has been seared, turned to stone. You are doomed.
The man who denies woman is the embodiment of the living spirit for a woman with the father spirit, has chosen death. Man is ready made of Womans living Spirit. By HER Spirit and Waters he has life and seed to create life in HER! Nor HER Body and Mans Father! Truly that is death! She flooded last time. What do you think she will do this time? Your father said his Kingdom will be without water. Man look where you are planting your seed. That is how you choose salvation. No man has water. No rooster yoke. Only witch craft and foulness will give him artificial waters. Not living!
@@StanleyWhitaker In Matthew's Gospel account (chapter 28), Jesus gave the Apostles the authority to go out into the world to teach everything he had taught them, and to baptize them in his name. In the book of Acts, we can read where they did just that, and again in their letters to the churches.
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It's been so hard. Last night I prayed and I opened the Bible. I came before him, broken. Like in Psalms 88, I felt that I was crying out day and night before Him, but that last night I truly broke down. So, I opened the Bible asking for a sign and I opened it up to Isaiah 41.. "fear not, for I am with you". God is good. Surely then he loves me and he is here WITH me. I asked him if I was accepted and I opened my Bible up again. Luke 10:25-37. God is good. God does not hate. When judgment comes, it's for everyone. We will all be judged. We will all fall short before his glory. We will all fall in his mercy. Amen.
That is powerful. Thank you for sharing. I honestly shed a tear.
Are you saying it is ok for believers to continue in sin?
@@JamisonSho definitely gotta make change
Thank you Nina. In Jesus name, Amen.
@@JamisonSho No is not. God love everyone but He hates sin.
God bless you my friend. I am a LGBTQ Christian and have faced so much pain and hurt from my church communities in the past. I have, like many of the LGBTQ community, felt rejection to the point of considering taking my own life. I couldn't accept myself for who I am. I despised myself.
God has shown me that I am his precious child and he has held me close during these times of struggle. I have grown in my faith and in my relationship with the loving, perfect, beautiful God I believe in.
"The Lord is close to the broken-hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit" - Psalm 34, 18.
God bless all of you. No matter what you believe, where you stand on issues of debate, NO MATTER WHAT, our perfect God loves you and calls you to be his child.
*The thing that gets me the most about pro LGBT+ Christians today is that I don't think the basis of their arguments are coming from the Bible but from society. The Bible clearly shows that God despises homosexuality but society is saying that "love is love". So it makes me wonder who these "christians" are following: God or Man?*
Starhunter exactly.
Even Christians who have studied theology to doctoral level have disagreements on how to interpret particular passages of the Bible. Christians can have different beliefs on topics and still be faithful followers of Christ. It is not our place to say who is or isn't a Christian. The basic requirement needed to be a Christian is to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. If you begin to make other qualifications then eventually you will find that NONE of us deserve to be in relationship with God. But then that is the centre point of our faith. Jesus Christ died for us because none of us are good enough. Referring to LGBTQ+ Christians as "Christians" in quote marks is making us an outsider and an "other". But under Christ Jesus all are equal. NO ONE is excluded from God's Kingdom. God bless you
@@jessy9933 *"NO ONE is excluded from God's kingdom." I'm pretty certain murderers, rapists, thieves, gang bangers and drug dealers aren't making it into heaven.*
@@starhunter9085 many of the key figures in the Bible were very flawed. Paul approved of the murder of Stephen. King David was an adulterer and murderer. Even those who murdered Jesus - Jesus said "forgive them father". It's tough to think that people who commit atrocities can be forgiven and can be Christians but scripture would suggest that in fact, they can.
Thank you Noah for sharing your experience. Shedding the lies we were taught by the "traditional" church is difficult but so important to learn to love like Jesus did. I'm trying to listen and learn more everyday and your message will help me do that. God Bless You Friend
Leviticus 20:13
@@dearjohn8789 do you practice all of that?
@@yordinsolis3133 would it matter if he did? It doesn’t change what the text says and doesn’t change how god feels.
@@WarriorOfTheNarrowPath capitalize that G my good man
So god lies cause it’s plainly stated many many times that this is a sin. Christians do not hate gays at all, well most dont. But we do hate people preaxhing a false doctrine
I really want to give this guy a hug. Guy been suffering in silence for 20 years
If there’s one thing I know it’s that God uses whoever he wants for his work. Thank you for sharing your story and bringing this awareness to the church! 💕
Amen
Satan is an angel of light. Check scriptures first before having your ears tickled by this blasphemy?
CCA please just tell me who on earth even among the most believing that does not have anything sinful or unrighteous about their lives?. God Almighty knows why He allows anyone endure anything. He will free them in His own time as they lean on Him, He never promised that the road would be easy, one thing is sure as Noah continuously leans on Yshweh, deliverance would sure come in His own time, His own time I repeat
@@fochotembi3029 Great answer! Yahweh, Jehovah, Tetragrammaton.....
Absolutely God has no boxes and HE will make a Rock Cry Out!!! If he wanted to!
We will never be accepted by religion. Personally i struggled for so long and the moment i came out the shackles of christianity and religion as a whole, i became more happy and found self worth. Your story is and forever will be valid.
Amen.
This message was so timely. My husband and I are on the verge of leaving our church home over this issue. The lead pastor literally emailed these words to us - “we are welcoming, but not affirming.” I’m heartbroken. My husband wants to stay and fight for change. I just want to find a place where I know everyone is empowered to serve and lead as Christ calls. Please pray for our decision.
So, shall we then continue in sin that grace may abound? Paul replies with a resounding “God forbid” (Romans 6:2). To desire to continue in sin shows a misunderstanding of this abundant grace and a contempt for Jesus' sacrifice
Yes. God's Word is clear.
He doesnt understand the word of God
Noah. With everything in me, know that I thank you
“If you love me, obey my commands”
-Jesus Christ
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh wow he’s straight now…
@@jacksonsmith4325 Okay? So?
Romans 3:23-28
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
@@ashley_brown6106 My faith is not without the works of Jesus Christ
Beautiful. No other words needed. Thank you.
Amen. It was very hard for me to come out, even harder to my Christian friends and family. I’m thankful for my life and Gods purpose for me. Even if not everyone affirms me, I know who do and that God does as well.
Carry your cross and sin no more. God is a judge! the Alpha and Omega! You can’t serve to Gods.. and this message is Blasphemy
@@Darwizzyjr shouldn’t people be with people they live though. You need to see it from his perspective though. Plus doesn’t Bible say God created us in his own image and loves us unconditionally. Life too short and people should live it to the fullest and be happy with someone they love
No man can serve two masters: for either he. will hate the one, and love the other; or else. he will hold to the one, and despise the other, Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
@@kevgil2000 But the Bible is against the lifestyle of the LGBTQ+ community
@@Darwizzyjr You're in a cult. Sorry.
"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths."
2 Timothy 4:3-4 NLT
Yes. Exactly!
I have a serious question, asked in good faith:
How can one affirm homosexuality in light of the bible passages (both old and new testament) that call homosexuality "detestable" or an "abomination?"
I watched this presentation in the hopes that a biblical justification would be offered. However, my question remained unanswered.
For clarity: I am non-religious. Raised fundamentalist Christian. I'm also not straight and a HUGE part of my upbringing was that God was specifically pissed off about the fact that I was interested in men. I'm not here to tell anyone that the way they live or the things they believe are wrong. I'm just curious and hoping to learn. Thank y'all
Edit: just to be double clear in case my profession of queerness wasn't enough, I agree with every reason he presented for why non straight people ought to be affirmed. These things are all extremely important, and I'm one of those "before the age of 25" statistics. Luckily I failed. But anyways, my question is purely theological in nature.
I appreciate your question; I too (a non-straight male) was hoping for at least some Biblical references to support the case being made for affirming LGBTQ church members.
Here for an answer as well!
Same. Was hoping for Scripture.
Ephesians 2:28
@@francoisbessing do you mean Ephesians 2:8?????
“No one who lives in [Christ] keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him” (1 John 3:6
Thank you for your beautiful and powerful testimony, Noah, and for courageously answering God's call on your life.
If you are christian and part of the LGBT community I would love to debate you on this topic. What do you say?
But he’s twisting the Bible to fit his life not twisting his life to fit the Bible which he should God bless
@@TheValentineShow what do you believe
@SoldoutforJesusChrist that what he siad
“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all Longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
II Tim. 4:2-4
Everybody love GOD. Let God Judge, not man- Seek God and he will direct you to the correct path of righteousness- To argue and feud is the trick of the enemy- Don't be tricked-
does anyone have his church name, i’d love to listen to a sermon!!
Yes, it's called the "church of satan"
@@amark350 be quiet
I just pamped into this testimony and I have found that am actually that person who is going through this as I have love for God and the church even today on my 30s I don't know how to disclose this to the church and the family. however through this am gaining my strength and ready to tell who am I. thank you very much Noah
dude hasn't opened the bible
Hey guy, God's Word isn't about your opinion or any others opinion.
His words are pure.
EXACTLY I'm so sick and tired of people justifying their sins.
@@theerealscooby read Leviticus 18:22
Thank you for sharing your experience. As someone who desires to be an ally, how can I help to create a more inclusive space for the LGBTQIA+ community?
listen, speak up, stand up, and have love ❤️
Maybe talk to pastors about being more inclusive and try to openly show your support if you can of course 💖💖💖
You can start by reading Leviticus 20:13
@@dearjohn8789 delete your account…
@@dearjohn8789 and you can start by reading 1 Corinthians 13:13 . Have a great day, God bless you.
This needs to be seen by everyone
Affirming the act or upholding one’s worthiness and value as an individual
No affirming really means accepting the lgbt lifestyle
@@molly2frodo222that’s a sin affirming someone’s value as an individual isn’t tho
My question is if you are a Christian is have you been born again.
i don't think I have since I prob wouldn't remember but I don't think it's possible for someone to be re born again in MY opinion so don't take it personally😅
God said He/She/Them has set before us life and death and to choose life. Some would believe being LGBTQ is choosing death. But why would loving be choosing death?
Finally, welcome and affirm yourself first and remember that even Jesus was rejected in His hometown but He kept on being and living.
Wow... thanks for that
God is a HE. HE is the FATHER not the Mother or whatever else. You're choossing death by not obeyimg His commandments. What you're calling love is not love by God's standards. You're loving your lust and your flesh more than you love Him.
@@ashley_brown6106 god has no gender technically, we just use "he" and "father" because its what's familiar to us. God is god, not a human like us
@@royalpain9939 God has referred to Himself as a Him throughout His word.
@@ExpertGarden yeah, I already said why
Name me one verse from either the Old Testament or the New Testament that supports this kind of way of life?
God loves everyone and he been suffering in silence. I want to give this guy a hug man. Let people be themselves and live there life!! Move along
@@kevgil2000 But when they define billions of people who are looking for the word Of God to live by, I think it is really important what someone says as a leader/Pasteur/priest.
Thank you.
Notice no words on what the scripture states
Lol 😂
I am going through this now till my body has a wond that needs to be closed so I can live
This message is incredible and it’s about time someone said it. Thank you so much 💙. I’ll contribute to spread the good news as well🙏🏽
*The thing that gets me the most about pro LGBT+ Christians today is that I don't think the basis of their arguments are coming from the Bible but from society. The Bible clearly shows that God despises homosexuality but society is saying that "love is love". So it makes me wonder who these "christians" are following: God or Man?*
This message is satanic
@@starhunter9085 satan is who they're following
@Davaglieo2000 Amen 🙏🏽 💙
@@PedroGarcia-jj2xs well said... it's a bunch of new age gobbledygook. And offensive.
I am gonna say something from my personal perspective of the Bible...
I believe that everyone has to make their own convictions. For instance, some people (Christians) believe drinking in general is wrong, while others believe that drinking is fine but not to the point where you’re drunk. Same for tattoos, I believe it is fine to have tattoos, but my Bible teacher at my school (Christian School) who is very nice btw doesn’t believe in tattoos. He is a youth pastor... And my brother is also a youth pastor but he has tattoos...
Now, the point I’m trying to prove is that, if ‘you’ feel deep in your heart it’s wrong, then its a sin for “you”. But if someone thinks feels in their heart it’s not a sin then it’s not sinful to them. I’ll give another example. My brother thinks tattoos are fine thinks it’s not a sin. My Bible teacher doesn’t think there fine so for “him” it’s a sin. So if both got tattoos then the teacher is the one sinning...
I believe though that the only thing you can’t choose if it’s fine or not (by your heart) is the 10 Commandments. I think those are strictly said not to do. So yeah, that’s what I think of how things are.
Same! I think the same. I think in the case of tattoos it also really depends on what the individual is tattooing on himself.
The Ten Commandments were given to Moses before Jesus was born. Those were 10 basic commandments that set the principle for prayer and and ethics in Christianity but that was not meant to serve as a list of all sins not to commit. You need to read the Bible a little better
Tattoos are wrong.
@@milliesaysokboomer it is wrong in general
Thankyou so much for this
Thank you for sharing the truth of your experience, Noah - and for providing a first step for those who wish to listen in order to learn. You are a blessing to the Church universal, a word of life to those who have been unable to find acceptance in the Church, and an encouragement to me! Thank you for answering God's call on your life, in being the light of the world and the salt of the earth!
If you are christian and part of the LGBT community I would love to debate you on this topic. What do you say?
@@TheValentineShow you can be both. Let it go
@@rawgirl503 Ok. What is the proof? If you show me the proof according to the bible I will let it go.
Leviticus 20:13
@@TheValentineShow he can't give you proof. You can't be rainbow and Christian.
There nothing in the bible that says it is right
Thanks for helping save lives
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
The religion clearly refutes the act, so u can’t be contradicting yourself. Rather be an atheist or something
Thank you Noah
A Ted Talk with a Christian that dosent quote scripture is like going to the chicken spot and getting server brussel sprouts.
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Bingo
@r2 it's called internalized deception
Factssss
Bingo!
First of all I'm truly grieved to hear testimonies of many lgbt people's experience in the church. I'm truly saddened that anyone has to even contemplate suicide. God does love everyone. And we as believers should model that love to each other and to the rest of the world. God gave His only begotten Son that "whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). He truly desires a relationship with us and there is so much joy and peace in HIM which pass all of our understanding.
With that being said. It is important to note that we should never lose sight that while God loves us, He is still Holy and does not affirm sin. Sin of any kind. He can't because it is contrary to His nature. God also does not contradict His Word. With love I say this but this gentleman gave no scriptures to back up anything he said. Rather it was just opinion and personal feelings.
What we should be affirming instead of specious things like “identity” is your true God-given purpose. You are a spiritual individual in a physical body. You are a citizen of heaven, not of the world. Instead of emphasizing delving into your worst sins in this life, you should be focused on your true life; eternal love and adoration as a child of God. If you cannot put your sins aside for Christ, Christ will throw you aside on the day of the LORD.
Well, with the attitude you have, let's hope you never get thrown aside. If you are suggesting that his accepting his gayness is one of the worst sins of his life, then I wonder what you think about discriminating against others or persecuting people who can't fit into your world ? I'm afraid there is a lot for you to learn on this issue, and I say this kindly.
I deeply believe you're deluding yourself, or you're worshipping some other god, that's not the God of the Bible.
Calling yourself something doesn't make you that thing.
If all you can say is that they have to be deluding themselves to love God, then what does that say about you? Are you perfect? If not, you don’t meet His standard either. Should we revoke your Christianity card since you aren’t?
Quit bugging about other people.
@@davidbivins953If they loved God, then they would at least try to obey his wishes. I'm definitely not perfect - no one is, hence why Jesus needed to make the sacrifice in the first place, but I don't go around purposely flaunting my sin and saying nonsense like "oh, but I love God and he loves me, so that's all that matters." whilst trying to convince gullible people to believe the same.
All they're doing is trying to appease their own guilt and justify their sin which at the end of the day is nothing more than self worship becuase the only person who's feelings you care about is your own, not God. That seems more like a 'do as thou wilt' mindset to me.
h3ll0gudbye you’re judging as if you’re God, get a life dude. Sounds like you have a different God
@@h3ll0gudbye, I shouldn’t have to be someone I know I’m not in order to obey God’s wishes. There are things I can and cannot control and my bisexuality is one of them.
@@bounty8438
"I shouldn’t have to be someone I know I’m not in order to obey God’s wishes."
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. (Matthew 16:24)
"There are things I can and cannot control and my bisexuality is one of them."
But the fruit of the Spirit is... self-control. (Galatians 5:22-23)
Noah, wow!!! And you gave thistle while married to Callie!!!! And all the while looking down on and deliberately throwing out a family who spent the last 7 years loving and caring for Callie mother as she was dying after a stroke!!! Causing me to put having a pace maker put in out of being bullied to leave without even do legal process!! Wow! To bad everyone here doesn't know the real you like I am having the opportunity of seeing!! God have mercy on your soul!!
Roman's 1:26-27 are brought up to me alot. What do I say? Is it still a sin? I'm a woman loving woman, but when I read that verse I feel confused and guilty
What stands out to me is at the end it says "all lust, no love" I think that's the difference between you and what they're trying to tell you that you are
When I hear videos like this it's always someone's feelings vs scripture. Your feelings "affirm" you but scriptures "transform" you. Jesus did not come to affirm anybody where they are, that's more of a non-christian "people" thing.
funny thing is if you are a liar or a gossip... nobody puts your faith in question... let me stop it here.
Has Ted ever heard of separation of church and state are they defined science via religion
Not a real Christian
One word. Amazing.
One word. Krazy.
I do not understand why people keep mixing christianity and some kind of things. If we are able to define christianity then we will be able to draw a line and understand what so ever people put in front of us with all their so call facts. I come in peace lol
Awesome
Y’all are crazzZzyyyy
very comforting! thank you!
" Both of them have done what is detestable" (Leviticus 20:13)
Talking won't help! Come to Christ and be prepared to give it all up for Him. It's a hard thing for everyone. Don't expect to be a drunkard, come to Christ & try to justify yourself with God's word on wine. How can you become born again, recieve the Holy Spirit & then grieve & stifle the Spirit with sin or substance that alters your mind and heart. Got to give it all up 1st or take the alternate road where the gate is wide rather than the hard road where the gate as narrow and not too many enter. It's a hard thing
Amen.
Where are the scriptures to back up what you say!
Fr bro
@@kendonwoods3693 yes it was a serious question....do you have scriptures?
You spoke for 12 minutes and did not quote one scripture to back up what you said...even if its a testimony it should have scriptures to back it up. I have a 5 minute testimony and it has 6 scriptures!
Infact you gave statistics 🤣🤣🤣 and dictionary definition of awareness...and affirmation 😅 let me be clear ..... if God truly called you...then repent of your sins and follow him!
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This was moving! And very much affirming!!!! I appreciate you and may God continue to use you! Amen 🙏🏾
No man can serve two masters: for either he. will hate the one, and love the other; or else. he will hold to the one, and despise the other, Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Ultimately, you'll believe what makes you comfortable to believe.
Exactly
Quantum mechanics does not make me feel comfortable. I want to do like Albert Einstein and say that there must be another explanation. But I can't.
then how do we find out what is the truth even if it hurts?
@@pickmegirl5706 If we really want the truth, then we'll have to be prepared to live with lots of mental pain.
Great guy.....
2 of those things usually dont go together
You can’t serve too masters Matthew 6 vs. 24
Romans 1:24-32
I wish people would stop adding race to everything. Like who cares. And yes brother, Amen “given over to vile affections”
And how you wearing your clothes it looks like you representing the BEAST and im not cool with that
how? is there some hidden things that symbolize the beast
@@pickmegirl5706 I've been through a lot of reincarnation and one of them I had that v head shape that he's is purposely promoting on his chest..... You would have to be from the occult to catch things like that I'm the real Illuminati that other secret society that calls they self the illuminated ones which he is representing are posers
@@omegasiris6230 ooh i see what ur saying
Matthew 3:2 Turn away from your sins, he said, because the Kingdom of heaven is near!
"I am vegan but i eat meat everyday" logic.
Christians believe in Jesus and he can do all things he is the miracle and he gives us life though we are dead in sin he is the resurrection all have sinned and fall short of the kingdom of God the Bible tells it is not by our deeds but by our faith that we are saved so no man can boast. Our flesh is under the law of sin but our mind delights in person law of God.
God the father knew we could not stop our sin nature by our deeds so he sent God the son (Jesus) to die for our sins all we are called to do is believe in Christ and we shall not die the spiritual but have eternal life amen.
It is done.
@@jafarrih Faith without works is dead. "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that *faith without works is dead?* [...] Do you see that faith was *working together with his works*, and *by works faith was made perfect*?" -James 2
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but *ONLY the one who does the will of my Father*" -Matthew 7:21
@@ashley_brown6106 my faith is not without the works of Jesus Christ
This guy mentions nothing of what the apostles taught. He only mentions his own ideology which is why he thinks he can be Christian and practice homosexuality. Sad.
have you also notuced EVERY LGBT person talks about sucide and being bullied to tug on our heart strings
he cannot quote scriptures because he KNOWS it goes against his lifestyle
@@harrietboateng5239 you are a sad hateful unempathetic despicable person to say something like this.
you CAN be both. YOU are the SAD one for thinking there is only one way when Jesus taught LOVE ABOVE ALL ELSE.
@@rawgirl503 According to Matthew 28:20, Jesus gave authority to the apostles to teach everything he had taught them, so did the apostle Paul derail from Jesus' teaching when he taught the Corinthians and Timothy that homosexuals would not enter heaven? What was Paul's reason for writing this to fellow Christians?
Leviticus 20:13
Also Leviticus 18:22
Hi
His experience has nothing to do with God's word!!!!!
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is an abomination.
You just want to be hateful. God does not stand for that.
What happened to Romans 1:26-32 in the Bible?
A lot has changed in 2000 years man a lot of stuff in Bible is outdated.
Blasphemy !!
You can be LGBT and Christian no problem
You cant
@@Somtejesstudios wrong
@@dansaber8435 hello you cant I gave you verse to prove it
@@Somtejesstudios sure. What God has done is plain to see. That's why you're without excuse.
@@dansaber8435 god sayed no "rainbows" should enter heaven. You just saying that it good cause you are "rainbow"
I feel for this gentleman and I sympathize with his issue. GOD, the Bible and JESUS CHRIST says homosexuality is a sin. If I had a problem of committing adultery with one or more women or even men. This is a sin. If I went to the church and brought this aspect of my life up and ask for direction this is what I would expect to hear: GOD loves you no matter your sins, HE wants you to repent of your sin, HE wants you to turn away from sin and lead a life led by GOD and with HIS favor. We are all sinners. Just because I sin differently it doesn't give me a right to judge anyone's sin especially because I am not without fault. I believe church is safe place to come as we are and learn to be transformed to be favorable with our actions in the sight of GOD. I'm sure if I brought my latest fling in every Sunday it would not be looked at in a positive manner. It would be the same if brought in a product of any other sin. I would completely understand and would have no problem understanding the church. Acceptance and tolerance definitely needs to exist in the church but it also needs to be reflected in the person that wants to receive the same in return. Grace is the proper term. Do onto others as you would have done onto you. GOD bless you on your journey and may GOD bless you with the right support system in dealing with this issue. In whatever sin GOD loves you and I accept you as you are.
We have to love Jesus more than we love sin
You are living a life that compels you to seek for self confidence everyday.
Self confidence isn’t an unbiblical trait. Self righteousness is.
Fr
@@bounty8438 Well said !
Hahah, no, you are to live your life in service and seeking God, Matt 6;33, Isaiah 55;6-7, have confidence in knowing the word of God Prov 3;26, having self-confidence only serve 'self', not God, having self-confidence is putting yourself above God and saying he had no hand in helping you achieve whatever goal you had.
You fail to see that if not for God there would be no universe, no earth, no life, and no you...Food for thought might want to go back and check that out ...😊😊😊
Great just Great 👍 👌 👏
Again you are not talking about Jesus bro
amen
Male transparent
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Leviticus 20:13
@@dearjohn8789 delete ur account
"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that *faith without works is dead?* [...] Do you see that faith was *working together with his works*, and *by works faith was made perfect*?" -James 2
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but *ONLY the one who does the will of my Father*" -Matthew 7:21
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Don't blame the followers blame the writers and original authorities over the book Christian's put so much faith in.
But the writers were just proclaiming what they witnessed.
Based on your comment,, are you are saying you are also blaming God for His perfect commands and for who He is? The Word is God.
Your interpretation and labeling is yours to have but that "perfection" came with an egregious amount of persecution.
ROMANS 1 MAKES IT CLEAR
Romans 1:16 and down. AND
Deuteronomy 22:5
The Word of God is Blessed!
The word of God has also been mistranslated multiple times to include political and personal biases.
@@bounty8438 Wow. Why would you say that? Which Bible do you read? As I know, NASB and ESV are two of the best word-for-word translations
@@bounty8438 oh shut up. You trying to justify yourself
@@Somtejesstudios so christian of you to tell him to shut up 💞💞
@@jacksonsmith4325 I am trying to spread truth. Had over 15 deabte about this topic. And I had enough of people saying rainbow can be Christian
Hey guy, you need to blame Mahatma Gandhi, for his famous(Not Biblical true) quote, "Love the sinner, hate the sin." You're obviously a reprobate. Your heart has been seared, turned to stone. You are doomed.
Nice. Love the passive aggression. You don’t know anyone’s heart any more than I know anyone’s heart. No one is doomed.
From the bible it's obvious that God hates (unrepented) sinners but no one is ready for this talk...
@@ashley_brown6106, so that’s why he sent his only son to die the most horrific death to save them?
@@bounty8438 nope
The man who denies woman is the embodiment of the living spirit for a woman with the father spirit, has chosen death. Man is ready made of Womans living Spirit. By HER Spirit and Waters he has life and seed to create life in HER! Nor HER Body and Mans Father! Truly that is death! She flooded last time. What do you think she will do this time? Your father said his Kingdom will be without water. Man look where you are planting your seed. That is how you choose salvation. No man has water. No rooster yoke. Only witch craft and foulness will give him artificial waters. Not living!
I didn’t get a word of that. Can you add a TL;DR?
What
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Nonsense
DELETING MY COMMENTS
This still not right.
LOL DELETING MY COMMENTS
Better read the Bible.
Homophobia doesn’t exist.
SO U man were through God and everything and ENDed up likeing man ? LOL
Hilarious
All wackos have similar eccentricities.
thank you Noah.
You can be LGBT and Christian no problem
Not what the Apostle Paul taught.
@@AudioCast76737 is Paul Jesus?
@@StanleyWhitaker In Matthew's Gospel account (chapter 28), Jesus gave the Apostles the authority to go out into the world to teach everything he had taught them, and to baptize them in his name. In the book of Acts, we can read where they did just that, and again in their letters to the churches.