Every year reddit does some sort of big collaborative project for april fools. This year it was /r/place. A giant blank canvas of a million pixels was created and any reddit user was able to place a single pixel of any colour on the canvas once every 5 minutes. The result of this being that creating anything meaningful required a large group of people working together, you can see from the timelapse how successful it was.
I agree with Grey, you HAVE to make some allowances for what RUclips is. RUclips is amazing. It has opened up whole new audiences to entirely new forms of content that wasn't being made before. But it only works when it's open to a broad array of people doing a broad array of things, and those numbers preclude strong editorial control over ad enabled content.
A while ago Brady and Grey had a discussion about their viewers which eventually led them to decide to call all of the listeners "Tim". I cant remember which ep though, sorry :/
It was around the start of Aircrash Corner, because after one or two episodes of that, they mentioned how Tim might be listening on a plane and if anyone called tim was... (I happened to be listening on a coach, close, but no cigar.)
Greetings from Tbilisi. I'll have to check out the penguins in Tbilisi Zoo... I haven't visited the zoo since the flood. I'll have to see if I can find A20583.
I get so excited about this piece of internet history and every time I see r/place I just feel proud of humans ability to cooperate. Truly One of my favorite things to have experienced on the internet.
Thank you CGP Grey, I’d never considered the whole competition aspect and their reporting being like a “shake down”. I appreciate how you explained the whole….situation (?). Being the teacher you are really makes such a huge difference to the way you explain/teach things to others. You asked questions (of Brady) that really helped me to better understand. • You increased my capacity to understand and to think about things more critically. Thank you for this, much appreciated 🙂🐿
In the last 3 years, i have had to change 4 big newspapers, because of the heavily biased reporting. All newspapers that used to be respectable sources... and the last one i am on now, before i am giving up entirely, also has its fair share of biased and one sided reporting. So yes, i do not trust journalists anymore. When they start to actually do journalism again, i will gladly change my tune, but for the moment i haven't found any journalist that deserves the name and much less any big publication that isn't filled of pointless propaganda and slanted reporting. Edit: 3 Years later this comment reads awful. With 2020.. the american election and covid denial.. i would like to express that when i wrote this, i didn't mean it in that direction. I had just stopped reading a big newspaper outlet, because they would start to print more and more opinion pieces instead of actual factual reporting.. and it all went to hyperbole and drama. Whenever I checked the sources I would find they left out bits and pieces from the interviews or statements, basically quote mining. So while my opinion has not changed, my approach to media has. I am now mostly reading first hand resources. Started reading studies and watching the interviews for myself.. that sort of thing. When i now got prompted to this comment, and i read through it, i found the comment to be way to much sounding like its in the cookie sphere. I just couldn't let it stand like that with a post 2020 mindset.
But that's because that's what drives online revenue. Barely anyone buys actual newspapers anymore so competition for traffic is cutthroat. It's gone back to how it used to be with people on street corners yelling war is coning. Only now it's on the Internet. There was no money back then, or now, in sensible and balanced reporting.
@SZYMON KULIK Thank you for the recommendation. though, although i do consume some media in english, i am not an english native speaker myself. So US publications are of some limited use to me. But i do recognize what that comment sounds like in 2020 :) Thank you for the suggestions regardless, its appreciated.
Re Netflix ratings: For me, some shows or movies that I watched aren't bad or good enough to get 1 or 5 stars, they're just... average. I tended to utilize all five options, depending on how I felt about what I watched which I think give a clearer picture.
Brady is so wrong about the adpocalypse that it physically pains me. The only way to not have ads on inappropriate content in a system as large and diverse as RUclips is to not have any ads there at all. Droves of people are moving online and large companies always want their ads to follow and be seen by those people. They don't really want to pull all their money from online advertisers. They've just been lead to believe they do by a storm of disingenuous outrage. What really needs to happen is someone taking the time to educate the individuals responsible for investing ad money. They need to understand that online advertising is different than traditional advertising, and if they want a piece of that audience to serve ads to (which they do) then they need to accept the reality of internet advertising. There will never be a perfect system for keeping ads off of content that each individual advertiser considers 'inappropriate'. The fact that several companies have pulled the entirety of their ad budget from RUclips over what boils down to less than 1% of their investment shows how little they understand the system and how horribly slanted the so-called 'journalism' surrounding this issue really is.
I can't believe someone who uses youtube thinks this. RUclips can only exist as a platform because of advertising on the platform as a whole. Otherwise there is no incentive for the company running it to keep servers for the content. The business model simply requires ads. Content creators are the suppliers of the product, RUclips is the place where that content is consumed. A store has to pay for the items it sells, a restaurant has to pay its cooks, RUclips should be likewise expected to pay content creators.
35:07 to 35:12 Let's be real here for a moment Grey. Sending the teeth to Australia is pretty much the same as putting them straight in the garbage. (if it isn't clear this is meant as friendly banter)
The Plane Train (yes that's what it's called) replaced transportation between certain gates, but the "AT-AT" transport as you call it, is still in use.
So in summary, there is a fundamental issue that Brady thinks needed to be addressed but they both agree that the way the newspapers have gone out about it blew it orders of magnitude out of proportion.
if someone uses a thing made by a company that uses electricity from a country that pays another country for electricity that has a single coal power plant, the person who uses the thing is supporting pollution. or am I over doing it?
Listening to his statement, I think Brady would like the Norwegian poet Arnulf Øverland. His favourite poem of mine (and arguably most famous) is called _Du Må Ikke Sove,_ or _Dare Not Sleep._ It was published in 1937, and in it he condemns himself for sleeping, not paying attention to the hatered and fear that has taken over in Europe. He mentions Hitler by name, and it ends with "Europe is buring." The most quoted, and most important line: _"Du må ikke tåle så inderlig vel Den urett som ikke rammer deg selv"_ Translated by me (in dactylic fashion to mimic the original): _"Do not sit by, let them not carry through Injustice that isn't directed to you"_
Totally disagree about Dolores criticism. Evan Rachel Wood had a super subtle performance. All the close-ups really show how meticulous she made her movements - you can see the algorithms determining Dolores's movements and reactions. It's so naturally unnatural, it's great.
I had the exact same experience getting my wisdom teeth out as grey but all 4 teeth and with my usual dentist. I remember he basically put his knee on my chest and yanked them out with pliers
1 point if you can find the heroes of the storm logo 5 points if you can find the Wisconsin badgers logo 50 points if you can find the green bay packers logo
It would be nice to see the pictures they are talking about. A standard HI logo or the flag as a default and the photo Grey sends to Brady, if they are talking about it. Let's say they are talking about bears in general - no picture needed, but if they're talking about a bear in the picture Brady sent to Grey, I would like to see it as well. I understand this is a podcast, so it's more like a radio show, less like a TV show, but even on the radio they often say something like: "Go to our website to see the funny 'Dog teaches a toddler how to drink from a toilet' video we're talking about!" And I know there's a list of things they're talking about on the website, but there is no way to actually see the photo. I don't know... just an idea.
On the topic of Westworld, I think that the actions are wrong even if the robots are not sentient. The individual is clearly deriving satisfaction from an unhealthy place. A real world example of this could be seen in something like animation, there are so many talented artists who can make their subjects look extremely realistic. Animation can also me very dark. If someone derived pleasure from hyper-realistic animated child pornography, I believe that most people would consider that to be very wrong despite the fact that it is solely fictional and no one is actually being harmed or affected.
there is no perfect system for screening videos. It is literally impossible to check everything ever made, and continually being made. What black magic do people expect to happen?
Vet ranch has gotten restricted, and consequently all their surgery scenes are now self censored, defeating a core premise of the channel. thats a net loss for me.
I find great intrest in the adpocalypse debate because Brady can take the side of the news and Grey can take the side of RUclips because he is a robot and is friends with their algorithm
Notification squad! Fooled by the checklist blunders of Mr.Grey. So late that reddit has already finished discussing everything. I don't like how Grey treat the RUclips version like a step daughter from a fairy tale.
Brady's thoughts on the adpocalypse is interesting. Mostly because of all of his content, his is probably the least likely to be extremely hurt. Obviously hurt some, but not nearly as much as people like Philip DeFranco who would be hurt by any advertiser saying "we don't want to pay for people who speak against a political party. It's becoming a question of how many "innocent" people are hurt to ensure the guilty don't go free. Fundamentally, I think Brady has mischaracterized the agreement between advertiser and product. The videos are not the content of RUclips. The VIEWERS are the product. And it's not about what the ad sponsoring, but instead how many people are forced to watch the ad.
I know this is an old video, but I feel like I need to bring this up. This isn't the first time this has happened with Brady, where he doesn't want to get into the "details", but the problem is that the "details" he's talking about are the actual effects of ideas. Like with the journalism thing: Brady, you simply cannot say that people should find good journalistic outlets, and then refuse to name an example. It's the same thing with the adpocalypse situation. You can't just ignore the thousands of creators whose lives are being shattered because of these stupid "journalist" witch hunts on youtube, forcing them to take a hard stance on advertising. They are making the videos and the topics within these awful videos much more popular than they ever would've been if someone had just, you know, *flagged the video*. Again, it just seems like "details" is code-word for "unwanted and unintended results of things".
I love the argument about journalism. Specially because i always (and still do) consider cgp as a journalist. He informs and educates the public about many global events and phenomena. Just what a good journalist should do. Ah, and dear gray and brady, boulevard press has nothing to do with journalism. Neither fox news or any other opinionated shit show.
You should go and check out the Statue of Mr Dulles himself. Its not open to the public, but you might be able to locate it. Dulles is one of the worst Secretary of State the US ever had.
1:01:33 Grey, you kill me sometimes 😂 For someone whose moral philosophy spends so much time orbiting near "minmax suffering and happiness", you can be awfully myopic about consequences. Firstly, losing something decreases happiness more than gaining that same thing would increase it, so you would actually be decreasing net happiness in the world. Which would be fine if it were actually righting an injustice; but I think most people would agree that if the supposed winner didn't _intentionally_ break a rule, and didn't even realize they'd broken a rule, and no one noticed the issue for decades, then reallocating the medal all that time later is not actually righting an injustice, but simply being petty. You'd be breaking an implicit social contract which says that there's essentially a statute of limitations on these things. I think there are better than even odds that even the Olympian you redistributed the medal to would feel that way, resulting in no increased happiness on their side at all, and possibly even a _decrease_ on their side. And if the reallocation were public knowledge, much of the public would feel that way as well, causing a further decrease in happiness throughout society. Of course, it goes without saying that in a society that viewed this situation the way you view it, the equation might work out as you imagine; but that's not the society we live in.
/r/place is so satisfying
Thomas Davis: Listen to the Podcast.
Every year reddit does some sort of big collaborative project for april fools. This year it was /r/place. A giant blank canvas of a million pixels was created and any reddit user was able to place a single pixel of any colour on the canvas once every 5 minutes. The result of this being that creating anything meaningful required a large group of people working together, you can see from the timelapse how successful it was.
Until you're so focused on the OSU griefing that you forget there's even a podcast.
I love just looking at that little "up the RA", brings a tear to my eye
Chris Talbot It's kind of of like evolution in action, the morbid beauty of past art being destroyed to make way for new art! :D
Man, that time lapse is fascinating! There is a story and a struggle almost everywhere!
A TWO AND HALF HOUR PODCAST? YES.
grey is totally right in the ads discussion
Love the background video on this one
ivcoto1 r/place? Yeah, that was amazing while it lasted.
I agree with Grey, you HAVE to make some allowances for what RUclips is. RUclips is amazing. It has opened up whole new audiences to entirely new forms of content that wasn't being made before. But it only works when it's open to a broad array of people doing a broad array of things, and those numbers preclude strong editorial control over ad enabled content.
There should be a count of Tim's actually named Tim
1. Me :D
What does Tim mean
A while ago Brady and Grey had a discussion about their viewers which eventually led them to decide to call all of the listeners "Tim". I cant remember which ep though, sorry :/
It was around the start of Aircrash Corner, because after one or two episodes of that, they mentioned how Tim might be listening on a plane and if anyone called tim was... (I happened to be listening on a coach, close, but no cigar.)
timception o metre
1:37:00 Grey speaking the bare truth about advertising. I couldn't agree more.
Absolutely
Grey is completely in the right here.
Greetings from Tbilisi. I'll have to check out the penguins in Tbilisi Zoo... I haven't visited the zoo since the flood. I'll have to see if I can find A20583.
She's dead, Jim.
Well she wasn't when he presumably went to the zoo.
Hey! l'm listening to this in Adelaide!
Grey is schooling Brady here
I get so excited about this piece of internet history and every time I see r/place I just feel proud of humans ability to cooperate. Truly One of my favorite things to have experienced on the internet.
Just started watching, and boy am I happy to find out your fans are called Tims. My name's Tim.
Love the empty space near the end just to mess with us! Lol :P
there is a list of the tallest building for many cities on wikipedia
28:25 lol i just realized the runescape loading screen in the top left, i thought it was actually loading
Thank you CGP Grey, I’d never considered the whole competition aspect and their reporting being like a “shake down”.
I appreciate how you explained the whole….situation (?).
Being the teacher you are really makes such a huge difference to the way you explain/teach things to others.
You asked questions (of Brady) that really helped me to better understand.
• You increased my capacity to understand and to think about things more critically.
Thank you for this, much appreciated 🙂🐿
where is the mighty black stump?
The great city of Adelaide.
In the last 3 years, i have had to change 4 big newspapers, because of the heavily biased reporting. All newspapers that used to be respectable sources... and the last one i am on now, before i am giving up entirely, also has its fair share of biased and one sided reporting. So yes, i do not trust journalists anymore. When they start to actually do journalism again, i will gladly change my tune, but for the moment i haven't found any journalist that deserves the name and much less any big publication that isn't filled of pointless propaganda and slanted reporting.
Edit: 3 Years later this comment reads awful. With 2020.. the american election and covid denial.. i would like to express that when i wrote this, i didn't mean it in that direction. I had just stopped reading a big newspaper outlet, because they would start to print more and more opinion pieces instead of actual factual reporting.. and it all went to hyperbole and drama. Whenever I checked the sources I would find they left out bits and pieces from the interviews or statements, basically quote mining. So while my opinion has not changed, my approach to media has. I am now mostly reading first hand resources. Started reading studies and watching the interviews for myself.. that sort of thing. When i now got prompted to this comment, and i read through it, i found the comment to be way to much sounding like its in the cookie sphere. I just couldn't let it stand like that with a post 2020 mindset.
But that's because that's what drives online revenue. Barely anyone buys actual newspapers anymore so competition for traffic is cutthroat. It's gone back to how it used to be with people on street corners yelling war is coning. Only now it's on the Internet.
There was no money back then, or now, in sensible and balanced reporting.
@SZYMON KULIK Thank you for the recommendation. though, although i do consume some media in english, i am not an english native speaker myself. So US publications are of some limited use to me. But i do recognize what that comment sounds like in 2020 :)
Thank you for the suggestions regardless, its appreciated.
I don't see how your comment sounds bad with a "post 2020 mindset".
Dulles has the Udvar-Hazy center, which is probably the best museum I've ever been to.
This episode brought to you by The Times. The worlds newest tabloid newspaper.
Lucid Moses I thought was the Wall Street Journal, Buzzfeed 2.0, "10 Ways PewDiePie is a Nazi You WON'T Believe!!!"
Some Good in This World Number 4 you won't believe!!!!
48:00ish for /r/place.
It's about 5 minutes long.
Re Netflix ratings: For me, some shows or movies that I watched aren't bad or good enough to get 1 or 5 stars, they're just... average. I tended to utilize all five options, depending on how I felt about what I watched which I think give a clearer picture.
r/place came back and now I'm here
2 and a half hours of fun! yay
my recommended for this video is only Hello Internet videos.
wow i disagree with Brady so much that for the first time i'm talking to my computer screen arguing with someone who can't hear me.
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
Brady is so wrong about the adpocalypse that it physically pains me.
The only way to not have ads on inappropriate content in a system as large and diverse as RUclips is to not have any ads there at all.
Droves of people are moving online and large companies always want their ads to follow and be seen by those people. They don't really want to pull all their money from online advertisers. They've just been lead to believe they do by a storm of disingenuous outrage.
What really needs to happen is someone taking the time to educate the individuals responsible for investing ad money. They need to understand that online advertising is different than traditional advertising, and if they want a piece of that audience to serve ads to (which they do) then they need to accept the reality of internet advertising.
There will never be a perfect system for keeping ads off of content that each individual advertiser considers 'inappropriate'. The fact that several companies have pulled the entirety of their ad budget from RUclips over what boils down to less than 1% of their investment shows how little they understand the system and how horribly slanted the so-called 'journalism' surrounding this issue really is.
RadgarEleding so very much this
I can't believe someone who uses youtube thinks this. RUclips can only exist as a platform because of advertising on the platform as a whole. Otherwise there is no incentive for the company running it to keep servers for the content. The business model simply requires ads. Content creators are the suppliers of the product, RUclips is the place where that content is consumed. A store has to pay for the items it sells, a restaurant has to pay its cooks, RUclips should be likewise expected to pay content creators.
35:07 to 35:12 Let's be real here for a moment Grey. Sending the teeth to Australia is pretty much the same as putting them straight in the garbage.
(if it isn't clear this is meant as friendly banter)
Yay! A new episode! These don't come out fast enough.
I really like the r/place graphic and the idea of it. Also, thanks for the tip on Harrys. I'll let you know if I like the product.
The Plane Train (yes that's what it's called) replaced transportation between certain gates, but the "AT-AT" transport as you call it, is still in use.
Love this. Thx!
Grey is always an inspiration
I love how respectful their argument is.
I wish I would have waited to watch this episode on youtube. Watching r/place is pretty cool.
So in summary, there is a fundamental issue that Brady thinks needed to be addressed but they both agree that the way the newspapers have gone out about it blew it orders of magnitude out of proportion.
So if Pepsi sells their sodas in a gas station then they're supporting pollution also by Brady's logic
if someone uses a thing made by a company that uses electricity from a country that pays another country for electricity that has a single coal power plant, the person who uses the thing is supporting pollution.
or am I over doing it?
Well, he's technically right though... (The best kind of right)
lol the super bowl score before New England came back
Now I want to know how the zoo tagging system works - given international travel etc.
Listening to his statement, I think Brady would like the Norwegian poet Arnulf Øverland. His favourite poem of mine (and arguably most famous) is called _Du Må Ikke Sove,_ or _Dare Not Sleep._ It was published in 1937, and in it he condemns himself for sleeping, not paying attention to the hatered and fear that has taken over in Europe. He mentions Hitler by name, and it ends with "Europe is buring."
The most quoted, and most important line:
_"Du må ikke tåle så inderlig vel
Den urett som ikke rammer deg selv"_
Translated by me (in dactylic fashion to mimic the original):
_"Do not sit by, let them not carry through
Injustice that isn't directed to you"_
Let's play a game. In the background, try to find a sandshrew, the annoying dog, homer simpson, and Kirby. Good Luck!
I've heard a couple of times that cgp has appeared in public, but I don't know if I want to soil the animosity..
The time-lapse is awesome!
Everyone look at the Squirrel rumps!
This is the first time I try listening to one of GCP Grey's podcasts!
When the show only lasts 2 and a half hours and its a few years till the next 1
Totally disagree about Dolores criticism. Evan Rachel Wood had a super subtle performance. All the close-ups really show how meticulous she made her movements - you can see the algorithms determining Dolores's movements and reactions. It's so naturally unnatural, it's great.
Hear Hear! ~ me after bradys journalism rant
I had the exact same experience getting my wisdom teeth out as grey but all 4 teeth and with my usual dentist. I remember he basically put his knee on my chest and yanked them out with pliers
Brady should make a audry teeth necklace.
Also next ISIS video:
"We have been demonetized, so this video is sponsored by 'INSERT CARBRAND'.
I am still waiting for my copy of the vinyl episode! It's been months and everyone else has theirs. Why not me!?
Can someone explain how they did the Mona Lisa?
[Serious question]
Thanks.
The journalism letter ends at 1:17:18
Thanks, that letter annoys the shit out of me.
What are these "At-at"? Can someone link to a photo of these things? There not literally the things from StarWars?
PH ITA THIS EPISODE. I do love how the red dot is perfectly centered and yet superbly infuriating
You forgot about Reddit Mold and hats feature from 5 years back or so. They've had their share of joke features too on April 1st
Would it not be funny to see that new Pepsi ad next to a terrorist video.
1 point if you can find the heroes of the storm logo
5 points if you can find the Wisconsin badgers logo
50 points if you can find the green bay packers logo
i now click on those auto-play ads because i know the creator is gonna need it
It would be nice to see the pictures they are talking about. A standard HI logo or the flag as a default and the photo Grey sends to Brady, if they are talking about it.
Let's say they are talking about bears in general - no picture needed, but if they're talking about a bear in the picture Brady sent to Grey, I would like to see it as well.
I understand this is a podcast, so it's more like a radio show, less like a TV show, but even on the radio they often say something like: "Go to our website to see the funny 'Dog teaches a toddler how to drink from a toilet' video we're talking about!"
And I know there's a list of things they're talking about on the website, but there is no way to actually see the photo.
I don't know... just an idea.
Didn't this come out last week on OverCast?
lol Grey is right. can't judge a company against something that is impossible to monitor
Shout-out to /r/Madeon and /r/PorterRobinson!
Oh boy, 4k /r/place timeline
I love how the American flag fazes into existence and stays strong and beautiful in the center. Even when it gets attacked it stays strong
On the topic of Westworld, I think that the actions are wrong even if the robots are not sentient. The individual is clearly deriving satisfaction from an unhealthy place. A real world example of this could be seen in something like animation, there are so many talented artists who can make their subjects look extremely realistic. Animation can also me very dark. If someone derived pleasure from hyper-realistic animated child pornography, I believe that most people would consider that to be very wrong despite the fact that it is solely fictional and no one is actually being harmed or affected.
Good luck in Dulles. It's terrible.
what's on the background!
??
Ok
/r/place, they talk about in the episode
I swear, you could take a screenshot of any section of r/place at any point in time and it could be the internet's flag
there is no perfect system for screening videos. It is literally impossible to check everything ever made, and continually being made. What black magic do people expect to happen?
Is there any place I can meet other tims? I really like this community
QED You could turn a non -Tim into a Tim.
You should definitely check out Wisecrack take on the philosophy in Westworld
nice to see you in the corner with danganronpa
owh boi, my boss was asking why am I looking at squirrel "bump"..
Whats so good about the raged right text?
It's R/PLACE!
Vet ranch has gotten restricted, and consequently all their surgery scenes are now self censored, defeating a core premise of the channel. thats a net loss for me.
I also loved the madame escaping.
I find great intrest in the adpocalypse debate because Brady can take the side of the news and Grey can take the side of RUclips because he is a robot and is friends with their algorithm
man, can't wait to get my wisdom teeth removed in a couple of weeks, gonna paint it with a HI to it.
With /r/place are you given only a single pixel? Or it like you're able to colour it in, pixel by pixel?
Squarezone each user could change one pixel every 10 or so minutes I think
lol Bob The Bomber
Brady wants to go to Westworld because he wants to tough as nails and posh as cushions. Classic.
Retrospectively - Brady was right. His prediction was right, wasn't it? RUclips has an improved ad system now?
Spooky foreshadowing of CGP Grey (the penguin)'s death.
Wow, that's mesmerizing
what actually is the background screen here?
I would have defended it too had I known r/place existed and was browsing the Reddit
Notification squad! Fooled by the checklist blunders of Mr.Grey.
So late that reddit has already finished discussing everything.
I don't like how Grey treat the RUclips version like a step daughter from a fairy tale.
Brady's thoughts on the adpocalypse is interesting. Mostly because of all of his content, his is probably the least likely to be extremely hurt. Obviously hurt some, but not nearly as much as people like Philip DeFranco who would be hurt by any advertiser saying "we don't want to pay for people who speak against a political party. It's becoming a question of how many "innocent" people are hurt to ensure the guilty don't go free.
Fundamentally, I think Brady has mischaracterized the agreement between advertiser and product. The videos are not the content of RUclips. The VIEWERS are the product. And it's not about what the ad sponsoring, but instead how many people are forced to watch the ad.
I know this is an old video, but I feel like I need to bring this up. This isn't the first time this has happened with Brady, where he doesn't want to get into the "details", but the problem is that the "details" he's talking about are the actual effects of ideas. Like with the journalism thing: Brady, you simply cannot say that people should find good journalistic outlets, and then refuse to name an example. It's the same thing with the adpocalypse situation. You can't just ignore the thousands of creators whose lives are being shattered because of these stupid "journalist" witch hunts on youtube, forcing them to take a hard stance on advertising. They are making the videos and the topics within these awful videos much more popular than they ever would've been if someone had just, you know, *flagged the video*. Again, it just seems like "details" is code-word for "unwanted and unintended results of things".
make the HI logo with the red dot.
I love the argument about journalism. Specially because i always (and still do) consider cgp as a journalist. He informs and educates the public about many global events and phenomena. Just what a good journalist should do. Ah, and dear gray and brady, boulevard press has nothing to do with journalism. Neither fox news or any other opinionated shit show.
You should go and check out the Statue of Mr Dulles himself. Its not open to the public, but you might be able to locate it. Dulles is one of the worst Secretary of State the US ever had.
Timestamps would be so much fun.
1:01:33 Grey, you kill me sometimes 😂 For someone whose moral philosophy spends so much time orbiting near "minmax suffering and happiness", you can be awfully myopic about consequences.
Firstly, losing something decreases happiness more than gaining that same thing would increase it, so you would actually be decreasing net happiness in the world. Which would be fine if it were actually righting an injustice; but I think most people would agree that if the supposed winner didn't _intentionally_ break a rule, and didn't even realize they'd broken a rule, and no one noticed the issue for decades, then reallocating the medal all that time later is not actually righting an injustice, but simply being petty. You'd be breaking an implicit social contract which says that there's essentially a statute of limitations on these things. I think there are better than even odds that even the Olympian you redistributed the medal to would feel that way, resulting in no increased happiness on their side at all, and possibly even a _decrease_ on their side. And if the reallocation were public knowledge, much of the public would feel that way as well, causing a further decrease in happiness throughout society.
Of course, it goes without saying that in a society that viewed this situation the way you view it, the equation might work out as you imagine; but that's not the society we live in.
Where is episode 80?
Brady, I want a copy-paste of your text about your statement on the news plz