The high register sounds best with the classic, IMHO... More crisp... As for my experience at my not so great level of trombone playing, I really leave the heavy blancked mpcs to large bore tenors or basses...
I tried the heritage but I feel fatigue and some pain in my mouth. And there was something in the sound that I like, but also play forte was difficult for me in the heritage
The tone of the heavy top is a more noticeable difference than I expected it to be. It has a GREAT full bodied tone! The other two were fairly close and tied for second place in my opinion.
I have a Dennis Wick Heritage 6BS and a Bach-style mouthpiece (no brand), and pretty much exclusively use the 6BS. One day, without realising, I picked up and used the unbranded one for a whole practice. I only realised at the end that I had the wrong mouthpiece, but the whole practice I was thinking "why is my upper register so crap today?" it literally was impossible for me to get stuff above G/A, it was a very weird feeling.
I started playing on a Denis Wick Classic Mouthpiece in August this year and it's making playing absolutely incredible. I own 3 trombones 2 bass trombones and a large bore tenor trombone. I'm bringing in a second Large Bore Tenor Trombone a BAC San Francisco on payday. Jazz Music
Yeah I agree...when you transition to the heavy top...it's smoothen out your sound throughout all ranges. I think once you adjust to it...your sound will be awesome! Heck I think I might get one and give it a shot.
the heavy top with that horn sounds so full and great. not that the others sound bad or anything, just kinda sounds thin compared to the heavy top. heritage is a close 2nd tho. have you ever tried one of those vintage Conn mouthpieces? like the conn 2 or 3. sounds super focused on a smaller bore horn
I have a few Wick Classics and I really love the sound vs the Bach and Yamaha mps I used to play (I use a Christian Lindberg with my small-bore 3B F-trigger and I absolutely love it) I actually just ordered a heavy top right before your video posted so I was psyched to see you comparing them. I’m inclined to believe that the heavy top will be your (and my) new favorite because of the additional material that should provide fuller and more controlled resonance…I recently purchased a 1949 Conn 6H and matched it with a Conn 3 mp and it gives that already jazzy horn an even more incredible vibe…you should try one of the Conns I think you will like the classic sound it imparts…almost forgot: 1 Heavy top 2 Classic and 3 Heritage
I recently bought the 6BS. However, I don’t really play enough to be a competent reviewer. I changed over from a Bach 61/2 Al. There’s a huge difference between the two. Air seems to flow much easier in the 6BS. I think the 6BS sounds more open and brighter to my ears. I like it better than the other two.
@@PaulTheTrombonist I really enjoy your playing Paul. I only wish I had kept my chops up over the years. Range has suffered the most, but tone didn’t diminish that much, which was surprising.
It seems like you have either the most time played on the Heritage or are most used to mouthpieces of that same style. You seem to be well practiced on a soft mouthpiece with a deep cup. While you would be able to sound just as good on any of the three with enough practice, you currently sound best on the Heritage. The classic makes your low notes harder to come out and not as clean. The heavy top makes your high notes muddy or sloppy. Note that those comments are exaggerated so as to be able to understand the difference between the three.
Per Wick, the *inner* dimensions of these mouthpieces should be the same, if I understand correctly. So, the rim width, inner rim diameter, cup size, throat and backbone. The differences, then, have to do with the "blank" the mouthpiece is cut from. I played the Classic version myself for a good long while, and I liked it on my Bach 36. Also per Wick, it's based on old version of the 61/2AL, but improved. The 6BS seems to be a bit larger than today's typical 61/2AL. As an indirect consequence, there are those who would say that this mouthpiece is a bit big for a .500 bore trombone. That's just like their opinion, man, but to be sure, this mouthpiece is no 11c, 12c, or 7c. Anyway, I found myself favoring the Classic, but it's subtle! The player perception subjective part does matter too, even though people try to eliminate it!
I tried the Heritage and I did not like the ir. The shape of the rim was uncomfortable for me. I want to try the Classic 6bs but I have dubt if the inner is deeper than a bach 6.5 AL. Thanks sorry for my inglish
All of these mouthpieces have the same deep in cup? I use a Schilke 51b and when I tried the heritage 6bs I felt it deeper than Schilke, and I didn't like it. Is the Classic 6bs less deep? Thanks
Those small differences are for most laypeople not audible but even for me as trumpet player, it's seems not worth the fuzz although a mouthpiece difference is probably much easier to hear acoustically in a big hall or inside an orchestra.
I think I’d go for Heritage, Classic, Heavy as my 1, 2, 3. But I like the sound of them all. I still currently play my Yamaha YSL-354 that I’ve had for about 14 years (I’m looking to get a new ‘bone once I can afford to). It came with a Yamaha 45C2 which feels tiny (which it is, tbf) and airy. My teacher also then recommended a Bach 5GS which I still use. I think I will try out some Wicks when I next buy (a) mouthpiece(s). Thanks for the music, wisdom and fun. I’ve already learnt and improved a lot thanks to you and your guests. Keep up the great work and much love to banana. Toby
personally i liked the heritage best. u should get a griego. the second i tried mine i went from hating tenor to loving it. the difference is immense. you are at the skill level where its time to get a mouthpiece custom fit to you. get away from the wick artist stuff. wicks are great at first but i played on a wick for years and the weights of them are either really light (classic or heritage) or way too heavy (heavytop)
My opinion is the Classic. There seems to be a slight difference in the sound. I played the 6BS Classic for a while. I ended up on a 5BS because I was leaning towards a bigger feel and deeper sound.
Hey Paul. I'm looking into the market for new mouth pieces to try and these look great! Do you know if there is a way I can order these mouth pieces from DF music to try them, and then keep the one I like and send the others back?
Which one do you like sound best?
Loved all the heritage series
The high register sounds best with the classic, IMHO...
More crisp...
As for my experience at my not so great level of trombone playing, I really leave the heavy blancked mpcs to large bore tenors or basses...
Classic
The sound Is a bit darker than the Heritage
For Me the Heritage sound very similar to a Bach 6.5 AL
I tried the heritage but I feel fatigue and some pain in my mouth. And there was something in the sound that I like, but also play forte was difficult for me in the heritage
@@Juan_Bone09they are literally the same the DW website says it
The tone of the heavy top is a more noticeable difference than I expected it to be. It has a GREAT full bodied tone! The other two were fairly close and tied for second place in my opinion.
My exact thoughts. Glad I ran across this vid today.I have a heavy top in my cart right now that I’m about to buy!
I have a Dennis Wick Heritage 6BS and a Bach-style mouthpiece (no brand), and pretty much exclusively use the 6BS. One day, without realising, I picked up and used the unbranded one for a whole practice. I only realised at the end that I had the wrong mouthpiece, but the whole practice I was thinking "why is my upper register so crap today?" it literally was impossible for me to get stuff above G/A, it was a very weird feeling.
I started playing on a Denis Wick Classic Mouthpiece in August this year and it's making playing absolutely incredible. I own 3 trombones 2 bass trombones and a large bore tenor trombone. I'm bringing in a second Large Bore Tenor Trombone a BAC San Francisco on payday. Jazz Music
I can tell you have played the Classic for a while. The Heavy top does sound smoother and the lower register has a nice tone with that mouth piece.
thanks for the comment, ya im looking forward to exploring it more
Yeah I agree...when you transition to the heavy top...it's smoothen out your sound throughout all ranges. I think once you adjust to it...your sound will be awesome! Heck I think I might get one and give it a shot.
awesome, let me know how it goes
the heavy top with that horn sounds so full and great. not that the others sound bad or anything, just kinda sounds thin compared to the heavy top. heritage is a close 2nd tho.
have you ever tried one of those vintage Conn mouthpieces? like the conn 2 or 3. sounds super focused on a smaller bore horn
Never tried the conn mp but would be fun go try . Thanks
I have a few Wick Classics and I really love the sound vs the Bach and Yamaha mps I used to play (I use a Christian Lindberg with my small-bore 3B F-trigger and I absolutely love it) I actually just ordered a heavy top right before your video posted so I was psyched to see you comparing them. I’m inclined to believe that the heavy top will be your (and my) new favorite because of the additional material that should provide fuller and more controlled resonance…I recently purchased a 1949 Conn 6H and matched it with a Conn 3 mp and it gives that already jazzy horn an even more incredible vibe…you should try one of the Conns I think you will like the classic sound it imparts…almost forgot: 1 Heavy top 2 Classic and 3 Heritage
You sound great on all 3... The heavy top sounds nice.
I recently bought the 6BS. However, I don’t really play enough to be a competent reviewer. I changed over from a Bach 61/2 Al. There’s a huge difference between the two. Air seems to flow much easier in the 6BS. I think the 6BS sounds more open and brighter to my ears. I like it better than the other two.
did you buy a classic or heritage?
@@PaulTheTrombonist Heritage.
@@paulwynkoop5955 ya thats been my go to as well
@@PaulTheTrombonist I really enjoy your playing Paul. I only wish I had kept my chops up over the years. Range has suffered the most, but tone didn’t diminish that much, which was surprising.
@@paulwynkoop5955 thank you. you can get range back. Just do long tones half step at a time like how a weightlifting builds weight
我第一次接触长号才60天，能勉强吹奏一些短的赞美曲，过两天会收到一个二手的长号，号嘴就是经典型的，所以特意来看看号嘴不同会有什么区别，说实话，我还不能听出你吹的三个号嘴有什么区别，感谢你的分享。我现在学习降B调和降E调，降E调能吹出低音2，到高音2；降B 调可以吹出低音5，高音到5，现在高不上去，也低不下去了
It seems like you have either the most time played on the Heritage or are most used to mouthpieces of that same style. You seem to be well practiced on a soft mouthpiece with a deep cup.
While you would be able to sound just as good on any of the three with enough practice, you currently sound best on the Heritage. The classic makes your low notes harder to come out and not as clean. The heavy top makes your high notes muddy or sloppy. Note that those comments are exaggerated so as to be able to understand the difference between the three.
On that horn...the heavy top really resonates...your sound is more focused with all that mass...
Good to know, thanks!
Love the Heavytop but you could make a kazoo sound good.
Per Wick, the *inner* dimensions of these mouthpieces should be the same, if I understand correctly. So, the rim width, inner rim diameter, cup size, throat and backbone. The differences, then, have to do with the "blank" the mouthpiece is cut from. I played the Classic version myself for a good long while, and I liked it on my Bach 36. Also per Wick, it's based on old version of the 61/2AL, but improved. The 6BS seems to be a bit larger than today's typical 61/2AL. As an indirect consequence, there are those who would say that this mouthpiece is a bit big for a .500 bore trombone. That's just like their opinion, man, but to be sure, this mouthpiece is no 11c, 12c, or 7c. Anyway, I found myself favoring the Classic, but it's subtle! The player perception subjective part does matter too, even though people try to eliminate it!
I tried the Heritage and I did not like the ir. The shape of the rim was uncomfortable for me. I want to try the Classic 6bs but I have dubt if the inner is deeper than a bach 6.5 AL. Thanks sorry for my inglish
All of these mouthpieces have the same deep in cup? I use a Schilke 51b and when I tried the heritage 6bs I felt it deeper than Schilke, and I didn't like it. Is the Classic 6bs less deep? Thanks
Would switching to a DBL have a significant change in quality?
My current mouthpiece is the Bach 6 1/2 A
Those small differences are for most laypeople not audible but even for me as trumpet player, it's seems not worth the fuzz although a mouthpiece difference is probably much easier to hear acoustically in a big hall or inside an orchestra.
I think I’d go for Heritage, Classic, Heavy as my 1, 2, 3. But I like the sound of them all.
I still currently play my Yamaha YSL-354 that I’ve had for about 14 years (I’m looking to get a new ‘bone once I can afford to). It came with a Yamaha 45C2 which feels tiny (which it is, tbf) and airy. My teacher also then recommended a Bach 5GS which I still use. I think I will try out some Wicks when I next buy (a) mouthpiece(s).
Thanks for the music, wisdom and fun. I’ve already learnt and improved a lot thanks to you and your guests. Keep up the great work and much love to banana.
Toby
Awesome, thanks for you nice words and comments. Banana 🍌 says hi
personally i liked the heritage best. u should get a griego. the second i tried mine i went from hating tenor to loving it. the difference is immense. you are at the skill level where its time to get a mouthpiece custom fit to you. get away from the wick artist stuff. wicks are great at first but i played on a wick for years and the weights of them are either really light (classic or heritage) or way too heavy (heavytop)
1:46 in text you switched to the heavy top and it still was the heritage, I believe
I want to buy a Heritage. If I select in the page "6bs" is it for small bore?
Yes. Denis Wick trombone mouthpieces designate an S for Small Bore at the end of their numbering system, and L for Large Bore
My opinion is the Classic. There seems to be a slight difference in the sound. I played the 6BS Classic for a while. I ended up on a 5BS because I was leaning towards a bigger feel and deeper sound.
6bs is perfect, though the heavy top is situationally good.
They’re all good but I’ll pick heavy top
What’s the difference between the 6BS and the 6BL?
6bl is large bore
@@PaulTheTrombonist thank you :)
For me, it was the Heavy top. Felt smoother or easy.... Unless thats just you of course lol. Thank you for the content, love from the UK
Hey Paul. I'm looking into the market for new mouth pieces to try and these look great! Do you know if there is a way I can order these mouth pieces from DF music to try them, and then keep the one I like and send the others back?
great question, I would call them and ask and dont forget to tell them about my promo code on the phone if you choose to move forward
@@PaulTheTrombonist No problem. Thanks for the quick reply. :)
Heavy top sounded nice.
Which Dennis Wick mouthpiece helps with high range?
don’t get mouthpieces for range get them for the sound, just build your chops!!!
Idk
I literally have the 5al and 5abl
is the denis wick heritage good for pedal notes?
Yes
Heritage is my favorite... not even close.
6bs mouthpiece
the heritage , classic or heavytop?
Heavytop richer, better low end. Classic second.
classic
You should have called you channel Paul the Tromboner
I did when I was in middle school
@@PaulTheTrombonist of course. Being a now 9th grader I can still definitely say I still have 0 maturity
@@TheObserverDMZ 🙌
The heavy top sounded best to me.
1 Heritage, 2 Heavy Top, 3 Classic.
Heavy top
Heritage sounded the most "live."
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