I swear to God us people with smaller wrists are being punished as watch enthusiasts due to some crime we committed in a previous life. Every single time companies come out with a smaller version of a popular watch it just has to be worse in some way, whether in design or price. Companies can't just make the previous watch....but smaller. That's all we're asking for!
Was so happy when I saw the watch on the Casio website but as I read the specifications I was so pissed off and absolutely hated it and thought nobody ever review it but you brought to the light man. Love you videos. I hope Casio fixes it and we all forget that it ever existed!
I'm actually pretty stoked with this one! I love a 36mm diver despite almost having a 7 inch wrist. Only thing I hate is the 50m water resistance 😂 Come on, it's a DIVE WATCH! 😂
@@conyo985 Yeah but the case is too big. I love vintage sized pieces despite having a 6.8 inch wrist. So I might still get this one if I find one with a good price 😁
Gotta say, Jody, I respect your integrity with this review, and calling Casio out. I kept seeing the new watch and saying "I know it's 38mm but it looks TINY!" now I know why! Guess I'll be sticking with my slightly too big Duro till they make a 40 🙏🏻
Jody, I think 36mm is bang-on awesome. There are too many 40mm divers around now thanks to the Micro-brand boom. However, 5 ATM WR is laughable. I would quickly snatch this up if its 38mm with 200m WR. That would be awesome. The prices for the Seiko SKX013 are creeping up by the day so a budget-friendly 36mm would've been a welcome addition to the small diver market. Maybe I'm asking for much but a sapphire crystal and a slight bump in price would be the cherry on top.
A rare time i disagree with Jody. My most worn watches are a 36mm Brosnan-era omega seamaster and the new 38mm seiko 5kx. I love smaller divers, so I'm all in on this one. I've been swimming with my 50m wr Hamilton khaki field many times and have never had an issue, so I'm really not too worried about the decreased water resistance; I'd never wear a normal duro and I will wear this, so that tradeoff is worth it to me.
As a female watch enthusiast, I'm thrilled with a 38mm (or 36mm) option! But we really need to see more classic divers in smaller dial sizes and with the same quality finishes and features as the "regular" sizes. :)
As someone with a small wrist I always want an affordable small dive watch. Tbh this Casio will definitely be my favorite. I am already ordered it and I can't wait it to arrive at my door🤩
I agree with everything you mentioned Jody, especially the 16mm lug width! I thought I could buy the Pepsi one off you for my teenage daughter but that size lug makes it harder to switch straps easily. What were they thinking!
I’m all about 38mm to 37mm these days Jody. But I’d pass on these due to WR and the 36mm size. I think this is just the women’s Duro. But it’s not really a Duro at 50m WR. I was really proud to own a 200m WR Duro back in the day. I’ll keep wearing that one, WITH my dolphin on the dial, thank you very much.
As a teenager I had a 40m quartz Casio ED-200 diver with a day date and 200m water resistance. Looked a bit like a duro but was under the Edifice range. That seems to be closer to the watch people wanted from a smaller duro.
@@hgr.7857 Same, tho I didn't go for the 'oak' one but for the fully circular version (EFR-S107D-1AVUEF). Not really a dive watch, but it has 100m WR and I've swam and even did a light scuba diving with it, no issues whatsoever. It's one of my go-to beachware pieces when I want to take it off sometimes to avoid tanlines but don't want to worry if somebody's gonna steal it (although at this point I like it so much that it has some sentimental value attached...)
I have an 8 inch wrist and I will happily buy and wear one. There's far too much emphasis put on watch sizes. My collection contains pieces from a 31mm vintage Smiths 12-15 up to a 47mm Invicta Grand Diver and a 53mm GShock Mudmaster and I have no issues wearing any of them.
I bet Casio is doing this because they know we'll all buy one despite us not really wanting it... and then in a couple of years they'll release a 42, and we'll all buy those, and then they'll release a 40 and we'll all buy yet another set. And Casio rakes in the dough. I, for one, won't buy this.
Not a 1:1 comparison but the BB54 is 37mm and many men seem to like it. So in terms of size I think there will be some who'll like it. Especially in Asia where under 7inch wrist seems to be common. I don't know about cutting the water resistance to 50m though, 100m would be nice.
Yes it’s not what we asked for, I recon that I usually wear small watches in general because of my wrist and style, but this one is disappointing because 36 for a diver is pretty small and 50M for wr, is too low, I’ve said once before, a 39-40mm same look, but with the 200 M WR it would be awesome and an absolute joy
Thanks for sharing, Jody. I agree with your assessment. Somebody at Casio R&D or marketing research just heard the word "smaller" from customers and ran with it, without doing any further research into what was already popular on the large Duro. Probably figured it would still sell with the Duro logo without having to give much effort. Any basic research would have shown that nobody, not since the 70s, wants a Casio this small (nothing wrong with smaller watches, but it doesnt work here). And nobody wants a pressed-down caseback. Etc. Well, a purchase is a vote, so as long as these sell Casio probably won't change anything. Hope im wrong. I bought and returned mine
For those with small wrists, don't be afraid of the 44mm! It wears a lot smaller due to its slimmer height. I have a 6.6 inch wrist, and it's worn fine for me as a daily, on rubber, leather and mesh
In my case, I have ~ 6.75 inch wrist and I wear a 43mm Certina DS Action Diver. Sometimes it feels a tad big but since it's a diver, it'll be excused 😂 sometimes I just tell myself - "hey, they have a 43 mm Sea Dweller and many loved that"
If this was 100m water resistance, screw down crown, and non-pressed caseback this would be very interesting. Those of us with small wrists have few options, let us have another one!
I have a teensy tiny wrist, I never buy watches over 38 mm, and my ideal value dive watch is the Glycine Combat Sub 36 mm, so no complaints about the size. However, the 50 m of WR is a disappointment. But my main gripe would be with the whole concept of a quartz dive watch: Why buy a water resistant watch if you have to get it opened every two years, after which it will likely be down to splash-proof anyway? Restoring the original water resistance on a press-on case costs about as much as the whole watch.
They look ok, good for the price. As you said, 50m water resistance is fine for most people. It's a dive style watch, desk diver or whatever you want to call it. Not for me, but I'm sure lots of people will like it.
So dissapointing. Watch community has been waiting for a long for a small Duro - and what we got. This should be the great moment in world of watches, but it is the complete opposite.
Ok, I'll be the contrarian here. I'm actually excited to get this new Duro! I've small wrists so, even though I would've prefered 38mm, 36 still sounds great. Sure 50m wr sounds disappointing, but I never go swimming and, if I ever do need a proper diver, I'll be relying on my CasiOak. The only real downside for me is the bad bezel, but, then again, I never move the bezel so...
Currently using the bigger Duro on my tiny wrist, this is the perfect swap/ addition. Though what a ridiculous drop down to only 50 meters. To make myself feel better it’s not like I was diving that deep anyways 😂
I have Casio MTD 1043 38mm (Rolex Submariner clone) that i bought in 2009 and it's great. 10-year battery. 38mm is right size for most people. Everything over 40mm is comicaly big. For field watch I prefer 36mm (38mm is max for me) and I have 170mm wrist. I think that 50m water resistence is sufficient for most people and their needs.
"38mm is right size for most people. Everything over 40mm is comically big." ... This is a totally unqualified statement. Ignoring, for the moment, that 170mm is a below average sized wrist, the blanket statement that 38mm is the right size is patently absurd. Most people would not agree with you as most people (with average sized wrists) fall into the 40mm zone (38-42) these days. Yes, this is all subjective, and changes with the times: in the 70's, 36mm was sort of the goto size, and in the 90's, extremely large watches were in, as evidence by the 44mm Casio Duro. Today, it is around 40mm. You assertion of 38mm is just your own personal bias based off your own smaller sized wrists. I believe you when you say 38mm is the max size FOR YOU, but I do not see the value in projecting that idea on "most people." It simply isn't true, which makes this an odd choice for Casio. "I think that 50m water resistence is sufficient for most people and their needs." ... This is only true if most people are allergic to water... In reality, most people want a dive watch that they can actually take in the water, most commonly for pool, beach, snorkeling, or water sport. 50m is NOT sufficient to take into the water, and really only has enough WR to withstand a shower. 100m is the minimum requirement to submerge a watch in any amount of water, and would likely cover most people. That said, for anyone who wants to submerge more than a few feet, 200m really is the correct WR.
@@herewegoagain... Most people don't submerge watches in water and generations lived with watches that were not WR. Most people are not divers. Beside, any kind of diver watch is so big that is totally impractical if you want to wear it under the shirt and jacket. Diver and big watches you can wear only with t-shirts in the summer. It's the same with almost any watch over 40mm.
@@ivanlukic2360 Ok, I would appreciate it if you stopped just making stuff up: "Most people don't submerge watches in water" ... umm, cite your source? "I have 10 friends and only one of them swims with a watch" does not count as a viable statistic. Plenty people engage in water activities with watches, which is why the modern dive watch exists. "generations lived with watches that were not WR" ... this is a totally irrelevant statement. Generations lived without any watch at all... and generations lived without any time keeping device. To suggest something is unimportant because people lived without it centuries ago is just absurd, and can be applied to literally anything. "Most people are not divers" ... and most true divers do not use dive watches. They use specialized equipment for diving purposes. The original purpose of a dive watch as an actual diving tool is now moot, which makes this specific point also moot. The Diver watch has since been repurposed fashion accessory that is useful in water activities, a market big enough for Apple to release it's own dive capable Apple Watch. "Beside, any kind of diver watch is so big that is totally impractical if you want to wear it under the shirt and jacket." ... Omega Seamaster 300m (41mm), Rolex Submariner (40mm) both under 12mm thick, and both worn by several different Bond actors... get this... with a suit. Tudor BB58 (39mm), hell even a seamaster midsize at 36mm to satisfy you tiny requirements, ALL can be worn under a shirt/jacket just fine, so I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about. You still have this strange notion that anything over 40mm is some hockey puck that will shred any long sleeve you dare wear. This assertion is looney tunes, and would only apply to a small child wearing skin tight clothing. To the rest of us, it is not true. Peirce Brosnan and Daniel Craig seemed to be able to wear a 41mm truly capable Dive watch with a suit with no problem, and so can I. I'll sum up with this: MOST people in the market for a men's dive watch, want a watch around 40mm that is capable of being submerged. This Casio is a miss because it fails both of those asks. I am glad you like it, but most people expect a dive watch to actually be water resistant in water, and today's fashion trends dictate ~40mm is in, regardless of your personal tastes. Making up stuff is not going to support your argument.
A great review Jody, BUT, HEY CASIO, we NEED/WANT a 40MM Duro/Marlin with a 20mm lug width and all the features 'screw down everything' of the 'Full House' version!
Casio knows what I want, I'm so buying this. 18mm lugs would have been better but I don't care about the 5atm - do you have any idea how hard it is to find a classic looking dive style watch in 36mm ? If you think there are great alternatives in a similar price range, that would make a good video ;)
I feel like they missed a huge opportunity here. What they needed was a Duro-inspired 41.5mm diver. Potentially with some improvements on the original; solar, better lume, ISO and on a better strap. Basically a competitor to the Eco-Drive promasters. Casio can do it. It might mean becoming an Edifice but they have the capability.
I own three 44mm Duros and they fit my 7 1/4” wrist just fine. I replaced the resin straps with Barton - great upgrade. Big omission with these little guys IMO is that the marlin is gone from the dial. We heard it was going to happen.
If you want a 38 or a 40mm diver: Just buy an invicta pro diver (the blue 38 is really sick) You can't get cheaper. So 36mm is not that stupid for casio imo.
If the watch industry were truly thoughtful and considerate of their customers' wants and needs, they'd make their most popular models in 3 different sizes (S, M, L) to fit virtually all preferences and wrist sizes. Additionally, they would offer a bunch of variations, some providing extra durability and/or purpose-built functions for enthusiasts who will wear the watch as a daily and put it through all its paces, while other variations would be primarily aimed at collectors offering extra fancy design touches, special colors and premium (read: expensive) materials for those who care more about aesthetics, and perhaps exclusivity, status and resale value. Casio seems to have gotten it right with their classic G-Shock square line, now offering a couple of different sizes and everything from a basic $50 battery powered DW5600 to a $4K stealth-wealth MRG, and a bunch of blinged-out offerings and collaborations in the $350 to $2K range in between.
Honestly, I love it. Finally my wife and I will have each a Duro our own size. New one for her, original 44mm for me. And I am sure 99.9 percent of people here don't go diving, so it doesn´t matter if it is 50, 100 or 1000 meters. From a collector's viewpoint, this new baby is worthy to have a space in my wife's watch collection.
I’m thinking that they possibly skimped on features due to manufacturing costs and to keep the price low. The original Duro has been around for a long time and I’m certain that tooling has been paid for a long time ago. If they had to develop new tooling, that might increase cost in today’s economy.
I've got the original 44mm which I rarely wear because it's too large even for my 7.3 inch wrist, 36 is way too small 41/42mm would be the sweetspot for me
For some people this is rather a blessing. I would definitely buy this smaller Duro since the original is way too big for me. It’s not yet massively available on Amazon and other websites just yet.
At least the seconds hand appears to hit the markers. But all the negatives, and after Casio took the marlin logo off... if you want a Duro, go search for the older version with the marlin.
I too love dive watches and cannot swim and unlikely to ever to go diving either LOL. To be fair I think Casio over delivered with the original Duro and this current model will find some love. Fingers crossed Casio will bring out something closer to the original in a smaller size but would expect a bit of a price hike.
In defence of Casio, their 200 m WR Duro exceded 800 m in a pressure test, so I would not expect a problem swimming or recreational diving. Even recreational divers rely on a dive computer anyway. Having said that, I bought my Duro on holidays, thinking that the shop was clearing old stock. I love it.
Definitely prefer my Bulova 98B348 Diver with red and black bezel - a quartz beauty for 120 € which was gifted to me by a good friend,and he got one himself. Cheers!
My MRW 200H-1E is half the price, looks great (the 1E is by far the best version with a black dial, white Rolex-style dive watch indices and gold trim), has 100m water resistance and is even more stylish if you ditch the cheap strap and put it on a black NATO (NB - with adaptors...actually, you should do a little video on adaptors for Casio watches, they're are a great solution for the narrow lugs/wide strap style of so many Casios and cost next to nothing).
Very much agree. In addition to 2 stainless dive watches, including a nice Baltic, I have a drawer full of used MRW 200H watches bought for about $15 each. They look and work great, with many different styles. Your model has an Omega Seamaster vibe; one I have is kind of Luminox-y. I use them to knock around in, do yard work, swim in the ocean, golf, loan out or give away. Love 'em.
I like Casio. I really do. I borderline love them. Other than Seiko and Orient, they are probably the brand I've bought the most watches from but they always seem just slightly off from what most people want. My favorite budget analog Casio are the EFV-100D and 110D. The Aqua Terra-ish models. Love the dial. Love the size. Just a great overall watch but specifically they are... maybe not a dress watch, but a dressy sports watch... with a screw down back, a screw down crown and 100M water resistance. So why ON EARTH would they present a dive watch with a press on case back, a push pull crown and 50M of water resistance? I mean, I'm sure they know the market better than I do but... I dunno. This watch wasn't marketed for me and zero chance I was going to buy one but as someone that recommends watches all the time, maybe I'll still recommend them but it looks like a hit but feels like a miss.
I have a 7.5” wrist and only own 38mm to 36mm watches in my collection. I have a Mission Impossible Casio that’s larger but that’s about it. I enjoy the vintage look of the smaller case sizes. I do want to get a 60mm Invicta 20mm thick watch just for kicks and giggles.
Well that's a bumber. I don't mind the smaller case but the water resist just won't do it for me. There are other watches I rather get. Its also a shame they got the dimensions wrong.
I have been wearing Casio diving watches for decades. They seemed to go downhill about 10 years ago when Walmart started selling them. My first I bought at a diving shop in 1983. The quality was amazing. Used it in the ocean for years. Sent it out for a new battery & band & they sent me back a new, lesser quality one but the same model.
Hah! I've learned that in Casio model numbers, the D appended to the second grouping of digits/numbers is the metal bracelet (this was the case for the Wave Ceptor I just got, versions with rubber band lacked the D.) Ahh well, ya can't win them all, but going from 44mm to 38mm (36mm?) is baffling. Thanks Jody!
Looks like they’ve stuck a dive bezel on the MTP-E720, which has much the same dimensions. Presumably (and, honestly, understandably) wasn’t worth them creating a specific, dive-spec case for this model. A lot of their lines do this, eg the Duro is basically the same as the EFV-100 sports watch, except with the dive bezel and with them claiming 200m rather than 100m water resistance
Don't know if it's mentioned already, not about to scroll through 800 comments. But just in case if anybody's wondering the dimensions on Casio's website always include the crown. Something to watch out for.
On the bright side (if there is one),I saw a video on the tube the other day where a 3 bar digital Casio was pressure tested to 410 meters!!Although the LCD was messed up,the watch was still working!!So perhaps this model has similar hidden tolerances..............................................
Im getting one for my girlfriend, she loves my OVM 39 and divers in general but it’s a bit too big and heavy for her usually so this seems okay since she doesn’t really care for any spec but the looks.
I suppose the more practical thing with having 200m of water resistants for most of us who aren't actual divers is that it speaks to being super durable
I have a small wrist and I like the size of this new one but dislike the downgrades they made, this could have been a killer watch. Will probably try it out anyway to check for myself. Thanks for the review.
It is good watch for people with small wrist, and for who that will not swing with it. Very nice watch. But for who than this watch does not fit, for who that Casio Duro does not fit; well, we have the Casio MTD 1053D - AVE1 and AVE2
Press on case back and 50m.. Yeah, I consider myself of somewhat mostly deskdiver, but I also like to take my dive watches swimming in the sea at my sommerhouse when convienient during summer. Ah, crap. I was really longing for a smaller Duro, but not this crappy compromise which doesn't appeal at all. What were you thinking here, Casio?
what dis you even expect? Sokid endlinks? Diver’s extension? Milled clasp? I have a casio calculatorwatch with no wr rating and swam in the sea with it snorkeling no problem. Just wore it yesterday too 😍
Eeek, that’s a minnow. I had a similar sized Fossil Decker because of my tiny wrists, but I was wrong. I have to break the rule and wear larger watches on a pathetic 6” wrist but legibility is paramount’
I wonder if we could see this as the analog, um, analogue to the F91W. It’s tiny, the water resistance is disappointing, and the lume sucks. But it has its own odd charm.
I swear to God us people with smaller wrists are being punished as watch enthusiasts due to some crime we committed in a previous life. Every single time companies come out with a smaller version of a popular watch it just has to be worse in some way, whether in design or price. Companies can't just make the previous watch....but smaller. That's all we're asking for!
The one time it’s an upgrade the lunar pilot mini is still to big
Tudor BB54. You won’t be disappointed
@@Wanking_wanker The pain is real
@@facetiousmonkey5322 Dang you're right, this is one of the few times I've seen the smaller new watch actually be cheaper!
Reminds me of the women’s versions of sports team gear - shrink it and pink it. Smaller watches get very little attention.
Now daddy has a hobby. And that means you do too, son.
"Daddy has a hobby, and you're going to go to a FINE community college or trade school, son." LOL JK
I guess if they came in a cereal box.
@@hgr.7857he'll be better off.
Lol
Was so happy when I saw the watch on the Casio website but as I read the specifications I was so pissed off and absolutely hated it and thought nobody ever review it but you brought to the light man. Love you videos. I hope Casio fixes it and we all forget that it ever existed!
I'm actually pretty stoked with this one! I love a 36mm diver despite almost having a 7 inch wrist. Only thing I hate is the 50m water resistance 😂 Come on, it's a DIVE WATCH! 😂
Just get the MRW-200H! 100M water resistance. I don't get how Casio failed on this one!
@@conyo985 Yeah but the case is too big. I love vintage sized pieces despite having a 6.8 inch wrist. So I might still get this one if I find one with a good price 😁
I highly recommend Citizens new Promaster series - 200m water resistance, eco-drive - with a diameter of 36.5/37mm 🫡 I wear it daily!
Oh sorry, it's e02020-08. Seriously awesome watch! There's some good reviews on RUclips on it of course.@@tonyxxx9463
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Gotta say, Jody, I respect your integrity with this review, and calling Casio out. I kept seeing the new watch and saying "I know it's 38mm but it looks TINY!" now I know why! Guess I'll be sticking with my slightly too big Duro till they make a 40 🙏🏻
36mm is an awesome size. 16mm lug width, however, is not awesome. At all.
If it is 18mm+ ❤❤
Jody, I think 36mm is bang-on awesome. There are too many 40mm divers around now thanks to the Micro-brand boom. However, 5 ATM WR is laughable. I would quickly snatch this up if its 38mm with 200m WR. That would be awesome. The prices for the Seiko SKX013 are creeping up by the day so a budget-friendly 36mm would've been a welcome addition to the small diver market. Maybe I'm asking for much but a sapphire crystal and a slight bump in price would be the cherry on top.
Yeahh the size can be tolerated. The 5atm is just a deal breaker
5 ATM is a total waste!
A rare time i disagree with Jody. My most worn watches are a 36mm Brosnan-era omega seamaster and the new 38mm seiko 5kx. I love smaller divers, so I'm all in on this one. I've been swimming with my 50m wr Hamilton khaki field many times and have never had an issue, so I'm really not too worried about the decreased water resistance; I'd never wear a normal duro and I will wear this, so that tradeoff is worth it to me.
As a female watch enthusiast, I'm thrilled with a 38mm (or 36mm) option! But we really need to see more classic divers in smaller dial sizes and with the same quality finishes and features as the "regular" sizes. :)
If this was 200 M water resistance I would have picked one up for my girlfriend
As someone with a small wrist I always want an affordable small dive watch. Tbh this Casio will definitely be my favorite. I am already ordered it and I can't wait it to arrive at my door🤩
How is the watch? You Like it?
I agree with everything you mentioned Jody, especially the 16mm lug width! I thought I could buy the Pepsi one off you for my teenage daughter but that size lug makes it harder to switch straps easily. What were they thinking!
They *weren't* thinking!
I’m all about 38mm to 37mm these days Jody. But I’d pass on these due to WR and the 36mm size. I think this is just the women’s Duro. But it’s not really a Duro at 50m WR. I was really proud to own a 200m WR Duro back in the day. I’ll keep wearing that one, WITH my dolphin on the dial, thank you very much.
Marlin, not a dolphin.
I said in another comment where if it was 200 M water resistant I would buy one for my gf
a 40-20 would've been just about perfect ...also 200m wr like the original
Yep that would be great. I'd like one but the original is just too big.
Have a look at the Casio Edifice EFV-130D-7AVUEF - it's even classier than the Duro at 42 mm. Bought it for 70 bucks and absolutely love it! Cheers
@@gerrytemple5044Good call.
MTD1053D 👍
As a teenager I had a 40m quartz Casio ED-200 diver with a day date and 200m water resistance. Looked a bit like a duro but was under the Edifice range. That seems to be closer to the watch people wanted from a smaller duro.
I have that "CasiOak" Edifice and it rules. Highly underrated. One of my favorite quartz pieces.
@@hgr.7857Yea that is a very good watch, I love how thin it is
@@hgr.7857 Same, tho I didn't go for the 'oak' one but for the fully circular version (EFR-S107D-1AVUEF). Not really a dive watch, but it has 100m WR and I've swam and even did a light scuba diving with it, no issues whatsoever. It's one of my go-to beachware pieces when I want to take it off sometimes to avoid tanlines but don't want to worry if somebody's gonna steal it (although at this point I like it so much that it has some sentimental value attached...)
I have an 8 inch wrist and I will happily buy and wear one. There's far too much emphasis put on watch sizes.
My collection contains pieces from a 31mm vintage Smiths 12-15 up to a 47mm Invicta Grand Diver and a 53mm GShock Mudmaster and I have no issues wearing any of them.
Big or small I wear them all 😁
The 50M water resistant is the deal breaker for me
I bet Casio is doing this because they know we'll all buy one despite us not really wanting it... and then in a couple of years they'll release a 42, and we'll all buy those, and then they'll release a 40 and we'll all buy yet another set. And Casio rakes in the dough. I, for one, won't buy this.
Same, not buying. No way. What a waste 🙄
Big disappointment!
Im really disappointed because there are cheap Chinese brands that are 50M water resistance that cost less than $10 LOL
Not a 1:1 comparison but the BB54 is 37mm and many men seem to like it. So in terms of size I think there will be some who'll like it. Especially in Asia where under 7inch wrist seems to be common.
I don't know about cutting the water resistance to 50m though, 100m would be nice.
Yes it’s not what we asked for, I recon that I usually wear small watches in general because of my wrist and style, but this one is disappointing because 36 for a diver is pretty small and 50M for wr, is too low, I’ve said once before, a 39-40mm same look, but with the 200 M WR it would be awesome and an absolute joy
I'd prefer 37.5 mm (instead of the 36 mm). And only 6 mm thickness
Thanks for sharing, Jody. I agree with your assessment.
Somebody at Casio R&D or marketing research just heard the word "smaller" from customers and ran with it, without doing any further research into what was already popular on the large Duro. Probably figured it would still sell with the Duro logo without having to give much effort.
Any basic research would have shown that nobody, not since the 70s, wants a Casio this small (nothing wrong with smaller watches, but it doesnt work here). And nobody wants a pressed-down caseback. Etc.
Well, a purchase is a vote, so as long as these sell Casio probably won't change anything. Hope im wrong. I bought and returned mine
Epic fail. You’re correct. The reason people love the Duro is all the things they took away. 40-42 mm would’ve been perfect.
40mm, 20mm lug width, 200m WR, and I'd have one
Right, so I'd rather buy the addiesdive quartz sub or the invicta suartz sub, think you could actually compare the 3 together Jody
For those with small wrists, don't be afraid of the 44mm! It wears a lot smaller due to its slimmer height. I have a 6.6 inch wrist, and it's worn fine for me as a daily, on rubber, leather and mesh
i have 6'' inch wrist and 40mm watches are too big for me. Ideal "big" watch for me is diameter of 38mm with 46mm lug to lug.
In my case, I have ~ 6.75 inch wrist and I wear a 43mm Certina DS Action Diver. Sometimes it feels a tad big but since it's a diver, it'll be excused 😂 sometimes I just tell myself - "hey, they have a 43 mm Sea Dweller and many loved that"
@khma8696 yeah that's it! As long as it's not looking completely ridiculous it should be fine!
6.6" is not 'small'. My wrist is 5.5".
LOL this is Rudo not Duro
and I think you can find Solar Field one with that price, also similar shape to this
The MDV-106D came with the same cheap metal bracelet. I have one. You are right about this new watch. I don't know why they did it.
If this was 100m water resistance, screw down crown, and non-pressed caseback this would be very interesting. Those of us with small wrists have few options, let us have another one!
Invicta is your option. If you want to spend a little more, an orient. Both are excellent divers, no complaints from my side.
I have a teensy tiny wrist, I never buy watches over 38 mm, and my ideal value dive watch is the Glycine Combat Sub 36 mm, so no complaints about the size. However, the 50 m of WR is a disappointment. But my main gripe would be with the whole concept of a quartz dive watch: Why buy a water resistant watch if you have to get it opened every two years, after which it will likely be down to splash-proof anyway? Restoring the original water resistance on a press-on case costs about as much as the whole watch.
The Pepsi with rubber strap would make a great Xmas gift for that 10-year-old boy in the family--
Are you laughing at this 55 year old man wearing this watch? I enjoy it.
They look ok, good for the price. As you said, 50m water resistance is fine for most people. It's a dive style watch, desk diver or whatever you want to call it. Not for me, but I'm sure lots of people will like it.
So dissapointing. Watch community has been waiting for a long for a small Duro - and what we got.
This should be the great moment in world of watches, but it is the complete opposite.
Ok, I'll be the contrarian here. I'm actually excited to get this new Duro! I've small wrists so, even though I would've prefered 38mm, 36 still sounds great. Sure 50m wr sounds disappointing, but I never go swimming and, if I ever do need a proper diver, I'll be relying on my CasiOak. The only real downside for me is the bad bezel, but, then again, I never move the bezel so...
Currently using the bigger Duro on my tiny wrist, this is the perfect swap/ addition. Though what a ridiculous drop down to only 50 meters. To make myself feel better it’s not like I was diving that deep anyways 😂
I have Casio MTD 1043 38mm (Rolex Submariner clone) that i bought in 2009 and it's great. 10-year battery. 38mm is right size for most people. Everything over 40mm is comicaly big. For field watch I prefer 36mm (38mm is max for me) and I have 170mm wrist. I think that 50m water resistence is sufficient for most people and their needs.
"38mm is right size for most people. Everything over 40mm is comically big." ... This is a totally unqualified statement. Ignoring, for the moment, that 170mm is a below average sized wrist, the blanket statement that 38mm is the right size is patently absurd. Most people would not agree with you as most people (with average sized wrists) fall into the 40mm zone (38-42) these days. Yes, this is all subjective, and changes with the times: in the 70's, 36mm was sort of the goto size, and in the 90's, extremely large watches were in, as evidence by the 44mm Casio Duro. Today, it is around 40mm. You assertion of 38mm is just your own personal bias based off your own smaller sized wrists. I believe you when you say 38mm is the max size FOR YOU, but I do not see the value in projecting that idea on "most people." It simply isn't true, which makes this an odd choice for Casio.
"I think that 50m water resistence is sufficient for most people and their needs." ... This is only true if most people are allergic to water... In reality, most people want a dive watch that they can actually take in the water, most commonly for pool, beach, snorkeling, or water sport. 50m is NOT sufficient to take into the water, and really only has enough WR to withstand a shower. 100m is the minimum requirement to submerge a watch in any amount of water, and would likely cover most people. That said, for anyone who wants to submerge more than a few feet, 200m really is the correct WR.
@@herewegoagain... Most people don't submerge watches in water and generations lived with watches that were not WR. Most people are not divers. Beside, any kind of diver watch is so big that is totally impractical if you want to wear it under the shirt and jacket. Diver and big watches you can wear only with t-shirts in the summer. It's the same with almost any watch over 40mm.
@@ivanlukic2360 Ok, I would appreciate it if you stopped just making stuff up:
"Most people don't submerge watches in water" ... umm, cite your source? "I have 10 friends and only one of them swims with a watch" does not count as a viable statistic. Plenty people engage in water activities with watches, which is why the modern dive watch exists.
"generations lived with watches that were not WR" ... this is a totally irrelevant statement. Generations lived without any watch at all... and generations lived without any time keeping device. To suggest something is unimportant because people lived without it centuries ago is just absurd, and can be applied to literally anything.
"Most people are not divers" ... and most true divers do not use dive watches. They use specialized equipment for diving purposes. The original purpose of a dive watch as an actual diving tool is now moot, which makes this specific point also moot. The Diver watch has since been repurposed fashion accessory that is useful in water activities, a market big enough for Apple to release it's own dive capable Apple Watch.
"Beside, any kind of diver watch is so big that is totally impractical if you want to wear it under the shirt and jacket." ... Omega Seamaster 300m (41mm), Rolex Submariner (40mm) both under 12mm thick, and both worn by several different Bond actors... get this... with a suit. Tudor BB58 (39mm), hell even a seamaster midsize at 36mm to satisfy you tiny requirements, ALL can be worn under a shirt/jacket just fine, so I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about.
You still have this strange notion that anything over 40mm is some hockey puck that will shred any long sleeve you dare wear. This assertion is looney tunes, and would only apply to a small child wearing skin tight clothing. To the rest of us, it is not true. Peirce Brosnan and Daniel Craig seemed to be able to wear a 41mm truly capable Dive watch with a suit with no problem, and so can I.
I'll sum up with this: MOST people in the market for a men's dive watch, want a watch around 40mm that is capable of being submerged. This Casio is a miss because it fails both of those asks. I am glad you like it, but most people expect a dive watch to actually be water resistant in water, and today's fashion trends dictate ~40mm is in, regardless of your personal tastes. Making up stuff is not going to support your argument.
A great review Jody, BUT, HEY CASIO, we NEED/WANT a 40MM Duro/Marlin with a 20mm lug width and all the features 'screw down everything' of the 'Full House' version!
MTD 1053 is definitely the better option!
Discontinued perhaps? Can never find it.
Here in Germany Casio still list it.
Ebay is your friend @@bigboiganiga8356
@@bigboiganiga8356 I just purchased 3 from TicTacArea for $60 each 👍
Like the shirt my Uncle was a SeeBee in WWII 123rd. He was 19 and new how to run the printing press to make copies of paper work.
Big daddy Duro still the King 👑
100%!
Hopefully they'll be releasing a proper 39 or 40mm version soon.
A 36mm is perfect. It is a little disappointing to see only 50m rated. Would love to see some real life tests.
Casio knows what I want, I'm so buying this. 18mm lugs would have been better but I don't care about the 5atm - do you have any idea how hard it is to find a classic looking dive style watch in 36mm ? If you think there are great alternatives in a similar price range, that would make a good video ;)
I feel like they missed a huge opportunity here. What they needed was a Duro-inspired 41.5mm diver. Potentially with some improvements on the original; solar, better lume, ISO and on a better strap. Basically a competitor to the Eco-Drive promasters.
Casio can do it. It might mean becoming an Edifice but they have the capability.
I’m surprised you didn’t show the original with a side by side comparison.
I own three 44mm Duros and they fit my 7 1/4” wrist just fine. I replaced the resin straps with Barton - great upgrade. Big omission with these little guys IMO is that the marlin is gone from the dial. We heard it was going to happen.
It's gone from the current production of the 44mm Duros as well.
Oh dear. What were they thinking 😕
If you want a 38 or a 40mm diver:
Just buy an invicta pro diver (the blue 38 is really sick)
You can't get cheaper.
So 36mm is not that stupid for casio imo.
i agree, 40mm with 200M is all we're asking for. casio should have went w these specs
If the watch industry were truly thoughtful and considerate of their customers' wants and needs, they'd make their most popular models in 3 different sizes (S, M, L) to fit virtually all preferences and wrist sizes. Additionally, they would offer a bunch of variations, some providing extra durability and/or purpose-built functions for enthusiasts who will wear the watch as a daily and put it through all its paces, while other variations would be primarily aimed at collectors offering extra fancy design touches, special colors and premium (read: expensive) materials for those who care more about aesthetics, and perhaps exclusivity, status and resale value. Casio seems to have gotten it right with their classic G-Shock square line, now offering a couple of different sizes and everything from a basic $50 battery powered DW5600 to a $4K stealth-wealth MRG, and a bunch of blinged-out offerings and collaborations in the $350 to $2K range in between.
Honestly, I love it. Finally my wife and I will have each a Duro our own size. New one for her, original 44mm for me. And I am sure 99.9 percent of people here don't go diving, so it doesn´t matter if it is 50, 100 or 1000 meters. From a collector's viewpoint, this new baby is worthy to have a space in my wife's watch collection.
The 16mm lug width is a bit od a deal breaker, there are much less options at 16mm compared to 18mm or 20mm.
I’m thinking that they possibly skimped on features due to manufacturing costs and to keep the price low. The original Duro has been around for a long time and I’m certain that tooling has been paid for a long time ago. If they had to develop new tooling, that might increase cost in today’s economy.
I've got the original 44mm which I rarely wear because it's too large even for my 7.3 inch wrist, 36 is way too small 41/42mm would be the sweetspot for me
For some people this is rather a blessing. I would definitely buy this smaller Duro since the original is way too big for me. It’s not yet massively available on Amazon and other websites just yet.
At least the seconds hand appears to hit the markers. But all the negatives, and after Casio took the marlin logo off... if you want a Duro, go search for the older version with the marlin.
I too love dive watches and cannot swim and unlikely to ever to go diving either LOL. To be fair I think Casio over delivered with the original Duro and this current model will find some love. Fingers crossed Casio will bring out something closer to the original in a smaller size but would expect a bit of a price hike.
In defence of Casio, their 200 m WR Duro exceded 800 m in a pressure test, so I would not expect a problem swimming or recreational diving. Even recreational divers rely on a dive computer anyway.
Having said that, I bought my Duro on holidays, thinking that the shop was clearing old stock. I love it.
Size is ok, I like smaller but not the water resistance
Definitely prefer my Bulova 98B348 Diver with red and black bezel - a quartz beauty for 120 € which was gifted to me by a good friend,and he got one himself. Cheers!
I like the size. I can live with the push pull crown. But a snap on case back? That’s what rules it out for me.
My MRW 200H-1E is half the price, looks great (the 1E is by far the best version with a black dial, white Rolex-style dive watch indices and gold trim), has 100m water resistance and is even more stylish if you ditch the cheap strap and put it on a black NATO (NB - with adaptors...actually, you should do a little video on adaptors for Casio watches, they're are a great solution for the narrow lugs/wide strap style of so many Casios and cost next to nothing).
Very much agree. In addition to 2 stainless dive watches, including a nice Baltic, I have a drawer full of used MRW 200H watches bought for about $15 each.
They look and work great, with many different styles. Your model has an Omega Seamaster vibe; one I have is kind of Luminox-y.
I use them to knock around in, do yard work, swim in the ocean, golf, loan out or give away. Love 'em.
I like Casio. I really do. I borderline love them. Other than Seiko and Orient, they are probably the brand I've bought the most watches from but they always seem just slightly off from what most people want. My favorite budget analog Casio are the EFV-100D and 110D. The Aqua Terra-ish models. Love the dial. Love the size. Just a great overall watch but specifically they are... maybe not a dress watch, but a dressy sports watch... with a screw down back, a screw down crown and 100M water resistance. So why ON EARTH would they present a dive watch with a press on case back, a push pull crown and 50M of water resistance? I mean, I'm sure they know the market better than I do but... I dunno. This watch wasn't marketed for me and zero chance I was going to buy one but as someone that recommends watches all the time, maybe I'll still recommend them but it looks like a hit but feels like a miss.
Absolutely agreed
They need to put day date function,they need to bring back 200wr,and all blue version!
I have a 7.5” wrist and only own 38mm to 36mm watches in my collection.
I have a Mission Impossible Casio that’s larger but that’s about it.
I enjoy the vintage look of the smaller case sizes.
I do want to get a 60mm Invicta 20mm thick watch just for kicks and giggles.
Well that's a bumber. I don't mind the smaller case but the water resist just won't do it for me. There are other watches I rather get. Its also a shame they got the dimensions wrong.
Check out the Vaer solar diver. 38mm, solar, sapphire, 200M WR, mil-Seamaster looks.
I have been wearing Casio diving watches for decades. They seemed to go downhill about 10 years ago when Walmart started selling them. My first I bought at a diving shop in 1983. The quality was amazing. Used it in the ocean for years. Sent it out for a new battery & band & they sent me back a new, lesser quality one but the same model.
Hah! I've learned that in Casio model numbers, the D appended to the second grouping of digits/numbers is the metal bracelet (this was the case for the Wave Ceptor I just got, versions with rubber band lacked the D.) Ahh well, ya can't win them all, but going from 44mm to 38mm (36mm?) is baffling. Thanks Jody!
Wow, wow, wow! The time has finally come?!
Nope. Guess not...why Casio? Whyyyyyyy?!
Looks like they’ve stuck a dive bezel on the MTP-E720, which has much the same dimensions. Presumably (and, honestly, understandably) wasn’t worth them creating a specific, dive-spec case for this model. A lot of their lines do this, eg the Duro is basically the same as the EFV-100 sports watch, except with the dive bezel and with them claiming 200m rather than 100m water resistance
As soon as i saw you handling the watch Jody, I thought that's smaller than 38mm, I have become worryingly familiar with the size of your hands lol.
It wasn’t me, I distinctly asked for something between 40-42mm and 200m water resistance.
It's looking better and better to have gotten a Pepsi Duro MDV-106 earlier this year on a mark down at Walmart for $11!
Great review. It looks like they didn't make this one for you, Jody (or me). They made it for JOMW Jr. ;)
Don't know if it's mentioned already, not about to scroll through 800 comments. But just in case if anybody's wondering the dimensions on Casio's website always include the crown. Something to watch out for.
10:52 "Yeah, this one, rubbish lume, rubbish lume." - Jody, 2023. 😂
50M is unacceptable. Buy that Citizen EO2020 instead. It was released recently. You get a 36.5mm diameter with 200M waterproof.
Invicta has the 36mm automatic Pro Diver if you can find one.
On the bright side (if there is one),I saw a video on the tube the other day where a 3 bar digital Casio was pressure tested to 410 meters!!Although the LCD was messed up,the watch was still working!!So perhaps this model has similar hidden tolerances..............................................
Im getting one for my girlfriend, she loves my OVM 39 and divers in general but it’s a bit too big and heavy for her usually so this seems okay since she doesn’t really care for any spec but the looks.
I suppose the more practical thing with having 200m of water resistants for most of us who aren't actual divers is that it speaks to being super durable
I have a small wrist and I like the size of this new one but dislike the downgrades they made, this could have been a killer watch. Will probably try it out anyway to check for myself. Thanks for the review.
Love the swimming outburst👍. These are like mars bars, smaller, less satisfying and the price will go up.
Aaaah, the legendary SEIKO signature move. Take sonething that people love and make it worse. Nailed it 💪💪
It is good watch for people with small wrist, and for who that will not swing with it. Very nice watch. But for who than this watch does not fit, for who that Casio Duro does not fit; well, we have the Casio MTD 1053D - AVE1 and AVE2
I have a 16mm nato sitting around which I like, this could fit that nicely!
Hi Jody, nice look at this new Casio. Well my money stays in my pocket no way would I buy either of these watcches
Would have been nice to see the old version and new version side by side. For comedy value if nothing else
My only "but" from the OG duro is the lack of a date window, which can be easly and cheaply solved *laughs in 19.5 cm wrist*
I love this watch for my 16.5cm wrist
I appreciate that this is a cheap watch. Looks quite good for what it is. Second-hand lines with the markers. Thanks for the loolks
Press on case back and 50m.. Yeah, I consider myself of somewhat mostly deskdiver, but I also like to take my dive watches swimming in the sea at my sommerhouse when convienient during summer.
Ah, crap. I was really longing for a smaller Duro, but not this crappy compromise which doesn't appeal at all.
What were you thinking here, Casio?
what dis you even expect? Sokid endlinks? Diver’s extension? Milled clasp?
I have a casio calculatorwatch with no wr rating and swam in the sea with it snorkeling no problem. Just wore it yesterday too 😍
The close to 36mm is good, I'm OK with that. But 50m WR and press on caseback is just poor. 😕
Eeek, that’s a minnow. I had a similar sized Fossil Decker because of my tiny wrists, but I was wrong. I have to break the rule and wear larger watches on a pathetic 6” wrist but legibility is paramount’
Think I'll stick with the MRW-200 eh mate?
Thanks Jody - casio's chutzpah offering - maybe someone will love it!
Being as trailing edge as ever I just pulled the trigger on a full size one. If it's good enough for Bill 😉👍
Smaller watches (I’m looking at you BB54) are funny but this one is hilarious 😂
I wonder if we could see this as the analog, um, analogue to the F91W. It’s tiny, the water resistance is disappointing, and the lume sucks. But it has its own odd charm.
perfect size for me but the lack of WR kills it for me as does the 16 lugs.
I mean it’s terrible but the BB54 is 37mm. What’s your opinion on that one?
Think I need to watch an episode of Friends to pick me up again!!!! :(