This New Casio Watch Is Unfortunately A Miss - The Casio Duro “38mm”
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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In this video, I share my thoughts on the new Casio Duro 38mm. While I was as excited as anyone when this new mid-size Duro was announced, the watch presents some challenges that are worthy of a closer look. Have any of you guys picked up this new smaller Duro?
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0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Background
2:13 - Dimensions & Wear
3:43 - Case
5:32 - Dial
6:36 - Movement
8:07 - Final Thoughts 
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The 44mm duro was my first watch and I didn't even know that you're supposed to screw down the crown before exposing the watch to water. So for years, I showered with it and swam in the ocean with the crown unscrewed 🤡. It handled the abuse like a champ and still ticks away perfectly!
If unscrewed crown survived that, imagine the abuse it can get with the crown screwed!
@@johnnysilverhand1733 no need to be pretentious. Many people don’t think much about their watches until they rly start to get into them
@@johnnysilverhand1733 lol I literally have no reason to make this up.
maybe that's what Casio thought about too when they decided not to make it screw down crown or back :)
That's great that the Duro survived. I have a "more expensive" dive watch that I forgot to screw down the crown for a day while on a beach vacation. The next day, the crystal was completely fogged up. I had to send it in for a full service, which cost me about 10+ Duros. So much for "more expensive" watches. Now I obsessively check to ensure that the crown is screwed on. =)
Cant believe casio approved this. A 40mm or 41mm, screwdown crown and 100WR would’ve been a great sequel
Theres no reason why a 40mm watch cant still be 200M. Its a bigger miss than even you are stating.
40mm with 20mm lug width, sapphire and 200m or bust!!!
@@kresimirpleicSapphire too, for $45? Why not demand a precious metal? 😂
@@zplapplap If they add sapphire and bump the price, it would still sell in equal numbers. Don't forget Casio offers sapphire at just slightly more than the current Duro. I'm a watch enthusiast, and I own a collection. An improved Duro along with my grandfather's watch would be enough for me to sell the rest and retire from this stupid hobby. I have the current Duro, but it is simply WAY too big for my 7+ inch wrist. I wear it on the Islander bracelet and I also have a leather strap and a Barton elite silicone strap for it. So I tried everything to make it work, but it's just too damn big. When I read comments saying that it wears really well on their 6.5 inch wrist, I have to stop and think just how dellusional people are and how prevalent lack of taste is.
@@kresimirpleic Many of us taking the time to watch and comment here are watch enthusiasts with collections. I regard myself as more of an enthusiast than a collector.
I agree with you. I have a somewhat flat 6.75 inch wrist. The lug to lug is short enough that I can wear my Duro without overhang. To me, lug to lug is a more pertinent measure of fit and whether a watch will be too big. Diameter is important. But, it stands to reason that a tool watch like a dive watch would emphasize larger dials. That said, I would replace it with a true 40 mm diameter Duro in a heartbeat. It would simply be a better fit for my wrist and I would prefer it aesthetically. In all but a dive watch, 44mm is a nonstarter for me. I would also pay a bit more for sapphire. But, as an enthusiast, I would make a project of it and inexpensively do the mod myself if I were so motivated.
Need more of critical Teddy that picks apart watches for what they are
3:00 This is basically the same size as the "37mm" Citizen Promaster (or the Marathon MSAR 36 for that matter), which is the ideal size for my "child"-sized wrists.
If Casio would have had 200m wr, 38 mm, sapphire with ar coating, new neat colours and the same embossed marlin on the back it could have had the potential to become a unisex hit watch in my humble opinion. Happy new year to everyone ! Greetings from Montréal !
If you could make an $80 watch and sell it for $50, that'd be great.
If there’s one thing the Moonswatch showed us, people are open to more colours than watch makers thought, and will happily pay for multiple of the same watch in different colours.
They can't have the Marlin logo anymore. The owners won't grant the license. It's why the MDV107 was released, without Logo.
Doesn't even need sapphire, hardened mineral crystal like Seiko's hardlex is good enough.
No need for sapphire if it takes the price up. What really matters is proper sizing (16mm strap width?!) and the great water resistance that made the Duro such a classic.
"unless you're a child or..."
36old me with a 14,8cm wrist: 🙄
I wear a 36mm omega seamaster most days and a 36mm marathon gsar when I travel, so I am stoked about this model
Biggest sin is that they removed the marlin icon to make it cheaper but its not really cheaper than the original duro.
Without marlin icon, it is not interesting at all :(
they removed it because it's not a diving watch anymore so there is no reason to pretend that it is
@@kosmas173 but they also removed it on some of the 44mm 200WR ones
I don't think the marlin icon was removed for the cost. I think it was removed because if you minimized it in the same ratio of the 38mm variation the details would to small to be printed via silkscreen and it would be too big if you retained the marlin icon from the 44mm.
Which harks back to why did you make it too small in the first place, people would have probably loved this in the 40mm variation
@@chadallenchan i was reading some convos about the trademark issue, i think ppl said that the logo was owned by timex or its a regional legal use, since half the release outside us doesnt have the marlin logo, i could be wrong, but the smaller printing is a valid point.
I appreciate your honesty Teddy, especially as someone that was really interested in a scaled down duro.
Duro is my go to beater almost every day. I swapped Sapphire glass into it, and took it off the factory resin, and it's pretty bulletproof, other than the now scarred bezel. Finally needed a battery change after almost exactly 4 years. Easy to do and it's surf proof (replace your gasket at the same time as your battery)
IT DOES wear smaller than its stats suggest too.
The black/black Duro mdv-107 (no marlin logo sadly) was one of my first watch purcahses and I'm particularly proud I chose such an admired model without knowing about the following it has, as i went mostly on looks and price. It looks awesome on an oyster style bracelet and coincidentally, I wore it today.
I bought a Duro 44mm about a year and a half ago for 45 dollars on ebay. I absolutely loved it so much I ordered 2 more, 1 with a green bezel. I've changed the straps on 2 just to be different, 1 od green rubber 2 piece, the other a 1 piece od green nylon strap. I usually wear one every day, love the marlin and couldn't be happier with them.
Love mamacoo the way you show it! You really focus on showing off the watch. I don't think any other RUclipsr can show off watches in as much detail as you.
Teddy, you forgot the sweet 22 mm lug width, easy to change out after market bracelets & straps, elevating the style. Glad I have a blue & black pair.
What a thorough breakdown with context to the history of this line. This was a great review.
I bought one (WR200) last year in Amazon Turkey . I found it cheap for 1300TL (40$). It came from overseas. One thing I needed was adjusting the BAND easily. Other watches don't fit perfectly no matter what I do. Not to big, not to small, it takes attention too. I wear it too work, important events etc. I'mnot a watch collector etc and this is more than enough for a tight budget
Picked up a sapphire swapped 200m Duro and it has gotten more wrist time than my other watches. The manufacturing quality is remarkable for the price point and the red AR crystal swapped in this case makes it look very different while also able to take even more abuse.
Where?
@@megakill952 eBay, I believe the seller did the swap themselves. They had a hardness gauge in the photos and the seal seems good as it has had no issues in water.
Even this smaller scaled back version seems to be hitting the marks. It seems many manufacturers quartz watches are hitting the marks these days or at least doing better. I purchased the 44mm Duro many moons ago and was floored it hit every mark. Actually every 44 Duro I've seen are hitting the marks, but I must admit to not seeing every example out there. Thanks for the review, Teddy. Have a good day everyone.
I really like this watch - for me it is the perfect size. I was really searching for a good wearable dive watch for small wrists (even for a woman). And here comes Casio and presents the best solution.
Already have it on my shopping list - for me, it is a no-brainer!
That's all good, except this is no dive watch...
@@nightstalker824 *look-a-like dive watch. Still happy with it. For swimming in pool, or open waters, or triathlon competitions, none of the normal watches are suitable for my purposes, so that doesn't matter to me.
Great review Teddy!
It would have been fine if it was actually 38mm (a lot of the first generation divers had similar sizes). But instead of just making a normal sized diver, they leaned fully into a women’s watch with the small lug width etc. 38-40mm with 20mm lugs would’ve been perfect. I also don’t understand the obsession with sunburst dials on budget watches. This will never look like luxury, so they should’ve stayed with a matte or glossy finish to keep it tooly.
Silly too because women’s watches are trending larger as well.
*toolly
Duro is my first analog watch. I love it. They also make great gifts for family and friends!
Best watch mod I ever did, adding sapphire. It's unbeatable.
Hey, there was something about this review that felt more like personal approach, felt more connected to this kind of editing or presentation maybe. I really hope you grow from here in future. All the very best!
I have the batman and all blue 44mm...LOVE THEM. I have 7.5 wrist though so no issue for me.
The original Duro is a legend, and rightly so. It was one of the very first watches I bought as I got into this hobby, partly thanks to your coverage of it on this channel, Teddy. So thank you for that. I still wear it as a super-casual summer watch and still love to see it on my wrist. The enjoyment is enhanced by the almost hard-to-believe price.
Looks like Casio missed the mark on the “baby Duro”, although I might get one for my wife (not kidding, small wrists), so maybe it’s not totally without a use-case. But the water resistance is really a shame. And the loss of the marlin. Love that little graphic.
Anyway, thank you for the review!
Its not divestyle. It dives deep and reliable. I have two with retrofitted sapphire. All that Casio needed to do....The normal duro wears just fine...
I have an old Duro with an LED light. I love that feature.
I have the precursor to the 44mm Duro, the Duro Super Illuminator mdv-102. While around 42mm in diameter it works well on my 16.5 cm wrist. The original strap is crap but the watch is great.
I think most people are a little over critical of this watch. People were complaining for years the original Duro was too big. Casio does something not a lot of companies do, which is listen to the consumer, and produces a smaller version. No one on RUclips has, in my opinion, appreciated what Casio does as a company in regards to listening to their fan base. The price is a little steep, that's a valid observation; the watch should probably be closer to the original Duro's price (last time I checked this watch is around $100 while the original is still around $45 or $50). All things considered, I think Casio did a great job with this watch, and I have a lot of respect for a company that will try to provide their fan base what they ask for.
I bought a Duro as a Christmas gift for my nephew, who is in middle school. I considered both sizes and ended up choosing the larger one because of the specs. I wanted this watch to be a true dive watch for him where the can take it swimming and snorkeling with confidence that the water resistance can hold up. I also realized that a 44mm watch would be somewhat large for him and that the smaller version would fit better. But he's still growing so eventually the watch won't look as large on his wrist. He was very excited when he opened the gift, and as far as I know he has been wearing it ever since.
It looks the same, yet looks so different. It just feels off when it's shrunk down... Looks disproportionate. Luckily I still have my OG Duro Marlin! And it doesn't wear as big as most people think. The OG Marlin wears perfect on my 6.5" wrist.
I'd happily buy it 👍 I love the size, aesthetics, brand pedigree and price point. Really not worried about the lowered WR or lack of "Marlin" logo.
If this was actually 38mm, it would be the perfect size for me - I say that as somebody with a 36mm Seamaster! Third time's the charm, maybe?
A friend of mine just got the baby duro today ! I knew it was 38 but when I saw it in person I was surprised. It felt way smaller but ( since I own the big one ) it didn’t felt like it lacks character it felt as solid as the big one , to be honest I wore it and it felt like a vintage diver not bad at all even elegant I would say , the big one is almost unwearable. The big downfall is indeed the water resistance drop and screw down crown but if you go just swimming to the beach/pool which most people will do with this watch I guess it would not be a problem ! I think it’s a good option for somebody who wants an everyday capable diver style watch at a ridiculously good price and a modest size ! I can never blame them if they make a watch smaller than I expected quite the opposite !
What a great reviewer who provides insights even on cheaper watches. No wonder he is so successful. Love your content
I bought original 44mm Duro black/black Marlin two months ago. I specifically wanted the Marlin version, less available in Europe, so I paid a premium, $75 in total. I bought three nato straps: original Bond, Craig Bond (black/grey) and black with red border. It wears amazing. It’s so accurate. This watch convinced me to start looking at quartz watches again. I’m thinking about Citizen Satellite Wave, whenever I’ll save the money for it.
Too bad about the smaller version cutting some corners, but it will just reinforce the legend of the Duro.
Kind of remind me of the tissot seastar 1000 36mm. Very cool watch but arguably very small for a diver. Luckily they released a 40mm too.
The size is fine. Even with moderately sized 7.25" wrists I really enjoy wearing
Now slot the 200m, Duro Jr. in between! MTD-1053
I own two duros. On both of them I put a cyclops lens above the date window. On the black bezel I have a black/grey nato strap and on the Pepsi I have a “jubilee” stainless steel bracelet.
I love both of them, and having a big wrist, I don’t think I’ll go for the mini-non-duro version.
Have a great 2024, Teddy!
Hey that sounds neat. How did you do the cyclops conversion?
First, I thought of buying the cyclop added crystals. But a good friend who is also an excellent watchmaker, told me not to buy those crystals cause he had the cyclop lenses to add to the original glass. So that was it: adding the lenses to the original crystal on my duros.
Oh okay cool. My first thought was a full crystal replacement, but if you have the window itself that sounds ideal (granted you have the skills required).
Thanks for sharing.
I would love to buy one for my 8yo. Too bad the price makes it a bit much for that when I can get several others to fit that bill for half the cost from Timex and Casio...
The casio mtd 1053d is the "unofficial" Baby Duro
One of the best watch to start a collection !
just ordered the 44mm version, and a leather nato strap
Id go for a Duro as a beater, looks a decent watch, the full fat version though not the tiny one.
Can you cover the Timex Waterbury Dive style watch?
I really don't see the depth drop as an issue unless you're a pro diver and if you were, somehow I don't think you'd be rocking a Duro. My criticism would be the 60 click bezel. I use my timer bezels a lot, so an issue for me. An auto version for not too much more money would be killer. Thanks for the varied watch content
Nice video. Sounds like the 38mm version is definitely a step down from the lager version. Speaking of which, I own a 44mm duro that doesn't have a marlin logo, is it ligit? When I bought it 2 years ago my research seemed to suggest that the missing marlin logo was due to licencing issue?
Mini Duro is gonna be the watch for my son. PERFECT brand, case size, style and of course price!
I have 44 mm and really enjoy it. 38 mm is strange size for it I think. I would like to try something like 39-42 mm.
The original Duro in blue is stunning
Get the 33mm or 37mm Citizen Eco-Drive Pro-Master diver instead!
Truthfully, I think this smaller Duro would be excellent for a young son or daughter who wants to have a watch like mom or dad.
It would have bee so easy to get this right. How did it go so wrong??
Might it not be suitable for women wanting an entry level ? There seems to be far fewer options in the utility, functional categories for smaller wrist sizes….
I have this watch in a bracelet and i love it, is perfect for my 16cm wrist and i don’t care about the 50m wr because i don’t like to swim with a watch
Watch Enthusiasts: "The perfect watch size is 36mm, you're never going to dive more than 3m deep so anything else is overkill"
Casio: "Sure here you go"
Watch Enthusiasts: "I hate it"
😂
Well, I for one understand the disappointment because it should be the successor of Duro, which is famous for being the cheapest 200m diver watch.
To be fair, divers wear small. Most people that would recommend a 36mm watch would probably recommend a 38/39mm diver.
They have a 200m variant in india
@@deepeshpv6729 What is the model number?
It’s a great size!
I might pick the 38 Pepsi on a stainless steel bracelet for my son's 12th birthday. He has been wearing square Casios for years,. This past Christmas I gave him his first real G-Shock.
I hope you do more bargain watch reviews, I would like to offer suggestions to friends and family that don't see the value of spending larger sums on a watch
I bet that overall it'll be a fine watch for the price. Not the killer deal of the Duro, no, but still should last a long time as a beater for those whose wrists it'll fit.
The original Duro is my go to Beater / work watch. Every scratch on it is earned. When I dive with it I know it will just work. The reason 200 m is part of that trust and faith. Skip the dive style Duro and go with the Vostok Amphibian. Cheers!
Exactly what I did. Vostok has a much cooler story and in house movement and can take just as much abuse. Found a used one one ebay for $60, unbeatable at that price and is now my everyday wear even over the Omegas in my collection
I bought the 44mm size with green bezel. I dont like the green tone. Can I get a replacement for reasonably cheap. The watch cost $41.
I daily the original 44mm Duro, and I think the size is fine. That being said, I think the prefect Duro would have a 40/41mm diameter, a solar quartz movement, 200m water resistance, and decent lume.
I would buy that watch 👆🏻
Love my Duros, but for me the 44mm size is part of the appeal. Even considering getting a third one, haha.
wow, this is the most dunking teddy has done for a watch
36mm is the preferred size for my wateches. Just wish there was a no date automatic mechanical movement. Too bad it's only 50M water resistance. It is a miss.
Casio just needed to drop the Duro's measurements by a good 2mm, and it would've been PERFECT. This small one just looks like a toy watch suitable for a 12 year-old's wrist. As Teddy said, the wait continues...
I will never understand a watch that’s made for diving and that 99% of the people that buy them and love them never go diving. Nobody goes diving.
How loud is the ticking sound of the seconds hand?
How does the Duro look on a leather strap?
At that price point and size, a great introduction to the world of watches for a young child.
The original Duro just fine as is, maybe add sapphire glass and a white dial.
I bought my first duro (OG black/black) last year. I love my 10x more expensive swiss mechanical watches a lot, but none of them has brought me as much joy as the Duro. I am big sized so the case size is perfect for me. It wears great with casual and even formal attire. Is THE all-arounder watch
Funny enough, I have a rather small 6 inch wrist and all my dress watches are 36,38,39 mm but somehow this 38mm Duro feels and looks too small on my wrist. Even my grandpa vintage Rolex 36mm somehow feels larger. Maybe lug designs?
I’ve tried for years to wear less than 40mm and I just can’t do it, it makes my stomach sick, what is it about the smaller watches that people like? Is it just because they have smaller wrists?
they should've just made a 40-20 version of the original duro
Very true
We are waiting for the 41mm Duro
The contemporary obsession with larger watches is bizarre. 36mm is not a "child size," and the 6.5" wrist depicted in the video looks great with the watch. You have even shown in the past how well 36mm dive watches look on the wrist.
I think the problem with many modern watch buyers is that their watches must make a statement rather than compliment their overall look. As a result, their watches are bulky, flashy, and frankly gaudy. A watch is a finishing touch, a small bit of flair that ought not distract from the person, but rather compliment them. This is the brilliance of vintage and neo-vintage watches. Bring back smaller watches!
That said, I understand the concerns with the other short comings. Small watches shouldn't lose so much in performance, and I wish casio has done a bit more here.
Hi Teddy,
I am from India and I just saw this watch last week in retail store.
I had not seen 44mm Duro in person so i was shocked that why this 44mm watch look tiny😂.
Then i check the model number and it was not 106 then i knew its the tiny Duro😂
It's not a 38mm, the listing on Casio's website is incorrect. It was confirmed as being a 35mm.
I’m happy cause I have a small wrist so is a W for me. Also someone tell me where to buy it I can’t find any.
I cant even find it available anywhere?
I loved my Duro and kind of want one again after seeing how disappointing this one is, I replaced it with the Kamasu which is probably the better move
Dang. A 39-40mm with the same crown and water resist would've been a banger.
Yeah, they went from one extreme to the other here.
What? Did the designer at Casio see the size criticism and go "They want smaller?! Well, I'll give them smaller!!" before making this?
I love the 44mm duro.
you cannot get it in europe ( with the marlin on the dail) and 50euro thats a dream here where i live .... love that 38 wauw
honestly the 38 mm looks very at home on your wrist. I have big hands and normal sized wrists and will wear a 38mm still looks fine, just a vintage style. Teddy is super maximalist with fashion, he wears a lot of fabrics, a 38mm watch can work on a 6 foot frame with scantily clad fashion choices and a fit body. (male or female)
the point was that it is more like a 36mm watch, with a very short lug to lug as well. It wears much smaller than a 38mm
For a dress watch, I think the small watches are great. For a dive watch, I want the heft. I want to KNOW that I'm wearing the big hunk of metal on my wrist. Being a poser has its challenges. (note: I'm calling myself a poser not you.)
At 50m water resistance what’s the point
I think this is a great watch for the price and like you said in your review casio is prioritizing function and value over everything else, lets be real no one is gonna wear this and go diving. Its just a diver style to look cool as a edc while having some water resistence features which is more than what anyone will need tbh. Because it is soo dispensible, something goes wrong, just get a new one. The marlin logo would have made it cooler sure. But a great watch imo
40mm would’ve been great
It looks tiny in comparison to the older 44mm 😮
Perhaps this was intended to build the longing for the 40mm with 100m water resistance so it's sales go through the roof 🤞
I have the original Duro in black, the blue, the gold two tone and the Pepsi. I buy Duro bracelets from Marc at Long Island watch and for about $100 USD you have a killer dive watch collection. The new Duro is a travesty. I would have gone the other direction with a factory premium bracelet, upgraded bezel and sapphire crystal at double the price or so and Casio would sell millions! Just say’n. Great vid Teddy. Thank you.
I wonder if this could be a good starter watch for my kid, who wants a watch but doesn’t want a bright colored swatch that looks like a kid’s watch.
Check the Casio AE1200 if you haven’t already, good water resistance and easy to read
Those are the same people singing praises to the 37mm BB54 diver.
A 41 x 47 x 11mm Casio Duro would have been the perfect size. Add to that at least 100 meters of water resistance and you have the perfect Duro for smaller wrist.
I actually swam in the dead sea with my old Duro on the wrist, it didnt do anything to the watch. Fair to say its the ultimate beater😂