The Flash Series Finale is Genuinely Horrendous...
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2023
- The Flash’s 9th and final season has been very disappointing for the most part, there has been a good episode or two but the poorly convinced arcs, the insane amount of filler, the minimal Barry Allen and focus on the awful supporting cast has given us one of if not the single worst season of this show. This final arc started strong but quickly fell apart in it’s 2nd and 3rd episodes leading into this final episode which has an interesting concept of bringing back all the old speedster villains in Flash’s final battle but did this series finale hit the mark?
Well you can already tell from the title, thumbnail and if you’ve seen the episode, you know… no this episode, this series finale genuinely SUCKS! 
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WB loves to do that...
Grant got covid in the final days of filmilng the episode so thats why savitar never unmaksed
They had to Cut alot some scenes
Saviatars is red cause all the speedsters where giving the negative speed force, i thought it was obivius
Aldo what are you talking about thawne never having his mask? He had it
Just wanted to say I'm grateful at least I found your channel where I could see other people thoughts on these series, hope you'll keep going like this⚡
Are you gonna make a review for the whole season?
Hope you talk about Superman and Lois
I dont know how Grant's back isn't broken from how hard he carried this show
💀💀💀💀
Bro deserved better, he needed to be in a Flash movie
@Enrique they can always multi verse him and switch him out with Ezra 😂
@@kendall5903 nah he should take a break from the role and maybe come back for a future DC project
Exactly. If this were a better series overall, I'd give him the Hugh Jackman/Robert Downy Jr. Medal for being irreplaceable as the superhero they starred as. However, can't blame him if he never wants to be associated with this again
The way the OG villains were beaten so easily is just awful
Plus insulting to see them be beaten by not even The Flash.
Agreed zoom,savitar reverse flash and godspeed could've easily killed the whole team that is why I'm not a fan of team flash
Team Flash was just superior lol
I mean..... Godspeed vs virtue was stupid when she stopped all her clones.
Zoom vs Khione - Zoom is insanely badass (my fav villain of ALL time) but Khione is a goddess. Makes sense.
Nora vs Godspeed - could have been longer. Nora is a speedster herself so can possibly defeat savitar
Allegra just blasted everything.
Every fight almost makes sense
Not saying it was good or even decent writing. Should NOT have went in that direction.
@@King_Zangetsu12820 it's rushed and inconsistent for some of it though
I love how Nora smiled when she killed Savitar but then you remember she told Barry to not kill Reverse Flash because he will be just as bad as him, what the hell is this writing man LMAO💀💀💀
Yeah u r right..
I don't why the hell writer chooses to destroy the legacy of some old good written villains.. fully disappointed bruh
Told him not to kill Reverse Flash because they still had to milk that cow dry. A good villain, but got so bored of him turning up. Didnt help I lost interest when it became the Tom Cavanagh show...
Also i agree with what the black lion said about them not expanding enough on the fact that the person she is fighting i literally a version of her father. Like does that not strike an emotion, or at the very least hesitation. I dont understand this god awful writing
@@danielbillingsley8073 Tom carried it
@@ryanh.9603 I don't think they ever acknowledged Savitar being Barry at all in the finale. Like they could've replaced him with another villain and it would make no difference.
Grant deserves an award for being the only actor who seems consistently is trying and actually gives a shit
I mean with the script they are given, I can't blame them.
If he had, he would have quit the show 8 years ago.
Because no one who gives a real shit about a character with so much potential would be cool with this kind of hilarious CW bullshit. Just look at Henry Caviil in The Witcher.
And even gay gustin must have noticed (hopefully since the beginning) that the writing is more than terrible, absolutely inconsistent and requires an audience with at least 30 chromosomes to be seen as a "pretty solid" or even "good" show..
@@snens4580ive heard rumours he was trying to leave the show since like season 5 tbf. i think especially on a long running show that doesnt allow time for any other roles such as the flash, it could really harm someones career and i think ppl on the flash definitely knew that and wanted out if they could
@@iwakeupandboomimarat I heard rumours he wanted to get to 10 seasons before ending it. But maybe that was before season 5
@@arwen7755 yeah im just quoting rumours so urs is equally as likely tbh, i wouldnt be surprised if either of them were true. he clearly loved acting as the flash but the falling ratings and lack of care ab the arrowverse by its later seasons could certainly put a damper on it
They really did achieve the impossible.
They somehow went below my already lowered expectations.
The did the impossible when they made an episode with rf,zoom,savitar, and godspeed in it boring
Same. I wasn't expecting much and I was still disappointed!
🤣
Like wtf just saw the last episode. And man the villains gets destroyed in 3 minutes and the flash took seasons to beat them …
@@DreadS0ul And Cobalt Blue. Like honey it was right there and they still failed.
You know they do something wrong when you want the villains to kill all the side characters.
FR.When reverse flash was in star labs trying to kill chester,i was litterally BEGGING for reverse flash to stop gloating like a dumbass and just straight up rip chesters heart out and kill him.And then kill allegra too no one cares about her ong.
Deaths were fakeouts no zoom rampage 😂
You know they do something wrong when cecile and alegra DARE to touch them
@@ahkafkhan4512 fr bro they made the greatest villains that barry couldn’t even beat by himself the SIDE CHARACTER’S BITCH?!? I WISH THEY KILLED ALL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR JOE AND IRIS. ALSO, WHERE IS CISCO.
ONE MORE THING. IF BARRY IS NOT THE FLASH THEN WHO IS GONNA SAVE THE CROWD IN ABOUT 100 YEARS THAT THAWNE WAS GONNA SAVE CAUSING THIS WHOLE ASS TIMELINE!!!!!!???!!??!
@@masonbtw9081 I guess due to all timeline changes since crisis, there isn't really any knowing if the future is constant, so I guess this ending changed it. Also, we already have seen Thawne return so many times, not from the future where he is betrayed, but rather from different time travel issues, that I don't even care.
Hot take, the elisode where barry traveled back in time to the date of his mothers death was the true ending of the show in my eyes. We have the full circle moment, he finally saves himself and accepts his mothers death, and he does disapper which solidifys the news paper headline
That is not even close to a hot take, that is everyone’s inner opinion.
Which season was that?
@@thedarklordx 3 I think
not a hot take
@@10ones it was season 9 where he was fighting the reverse flash because of the fix point that was over his moms death
Barry: You don't have to do this Eddie, please
Eddie: OK
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
I struggle to understand how the writers could make a episode containing the return of Reverse Flash, Zoom, Savitar and Godspeed boring.
Eric Wallace at his best, ruining all the good stuff and jamming Cecile in our face
I’m convinced they do it on purpose. How could u sit down and think “yeah they gonna love this”
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
@@michealrosen i am 100% convinced eric is sleeping with ceciles actor, he even put cecile and Joes scene AFTER barry and Iris's?!?!?!
@@zeespeaks6696 It's the CW after all...
Thawne teasing Zoom for stealing his entire season 1 plot was actually a little funny
Only best part was
"You just washed up speed junkie"
Is gold 😂😂😂
The only good part of this episode was when they all met at the negative speedforce
Especially ironic considering in comics, that was Zoom's story: He was actually the Flash's (Wally West) friend, who got crippled and stuck in a wheelchair, and then worked to improve him to be a better hero.
Oh, that was easily the best scene. 👏
“Ah, Zolomon…love your work!” 😂
@@parkerboy795 that’s true 😂
Tbh I don't think Grant Gustin has ever had a bad performance throughout the 9 years of the entire show.
He's the only one who carried the show with occasional help from Tom Cavanagh.. Dude's back must be relieved right now lol..
bruh
9 years of the show like half of a season to beat savitar nora beats him with his own blade to his back WITH ARMOUR like bruh
“tHeRe’S nOwHeRe tO rUn” -1x04
@@ZeroDividedByZero i don't think he could've delivered the line better, it's just funny writing
Grant Gustin and Tom Cavanagh really carried the show. The way those two acted even with bad script.
The reverse flash controlled barrys life for over 15 years, and haunted barry for basically the rest of it. Zoom held 2 worlds hostage for over a year. Savitar was powerful enough to bring speedsters to the brink of death while being trapped in a prison, manipulated everyone in team flash, and couldn’t be stopped by even time travel from carrying out his plan. Godspeed, I mean, was never really good but Barry still needed his greatest enemies help to defeat him. Zoom could put two planets at their knees but couldn’t beat a weather girl who has been alive shorter than joes daughter. Godspeed could cause a citywide war but was defeated by a woman in her 50’s whose power is the power of feelings, and savitar, essentially the flash himself, who couldnt be defeated even when faced by kid flash, jesse quick, the fladh, and jay garrick, lost because his reflexes were too slow? The reverse flash, who “never dies” and “always comes back” and is quite literally barrys one true villain to top them all, one that he has been fighting for the last 9 years, whose fight with the flash is so insane it surpasses mutliple timelines, is defeater by a sad light girl? And Barrys greatest enemies, speedsters, chase after his team and dont chase barry, or even talk to him? What?
I'm your 100th like and everything you said here makes perfect sense, how they went about those fight scenes is unbelievably annoying
Bro is speak pure facts and nothing less
Welcome to the Eric Wallace special
Everything you like he'll turn into burning dogshit and as compensation, you'll get a motivational speech, Cecile reading a quote off of Facebook and Allegra and Chester kissing like awkward 14 year old entering their first ever relationship.
the last 5 years are not it just because of eric wallace
Khione tbh was a goddess so outta of the team she was the only one that could stand a chance. The Cecile getting so OP was for no reason it was rushed
Y’all remember when Thawne ripped Ray’s heart out, and when Zoom snapped multiple officers necks in under a second?? Yeah looking at this just says a lot…….
And I’m glad he brought up Eddie’s running, because it did look very awkward tbh
What do you expect when Eric Wallace is the showrunner?
They got Marvel syndromed. OP in their own season, punked in any other season.
y’all remember when savitar ran multiple laps around central city in under a second?
y’all remember when godspeed uh… i didn’t watch that season but he prolly got done dirty too
And it’s not like they were one time feats. Zoom is consistent with his high body counts
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
The most disappointing thing was Cisco didn’t return an original cast member, they could’ve done a FaceTime call or have even mentioned his name maybe have had him send a toy with a note explaining his absence, or have said Cisco sends his regards but he’s busy with Argus stuff or something
🤣🤣 the actor already said he wasn’t going to be in it because he had rescheduling stuff.
@@christianshields2751 he could’ve done the littlest thing like an audio recording or something
@misterflibble2931 would you wanna be in this shit show any longer than needed
why dosent the flash just run at every villian at like 1000 mph and just blow a hole through their chest with a 1000 mph single punch??? like is there a reason given in the show for why he dosent just even just grab the bad guys at the speed of sound and put them in a maximum security prison cell within literally a single second?
Why doesn't this hero who's goal is to not kill, kill his villains? Is that what you're asking?
@@ThatJokerDude We just gonna ignore the perfectly valid 2nd half of his comment? We pickin cherries now?
@@asteromorphgaming9004 yep, I read the whol3 comment. Just asking about a specific part of the comment, if you don't mind.
Barry does do that sometimes, there's a video series by "Madvocate" that points out the inconsistencies in the speed mechanics starting from season 1. Sometimes he does it and sometimes he doesn't.
@@thedarklordx yeah well thats their point, why doesnt he do it all the time lmaoo
My favorite part is how Savitar was just there, doing nothing. There's so many potential fun interactions that could've been written with all the other evil speedsters finding out that they're working with a version of a man they hate so much. But instead, he does absolutely nothing before getting punked by Nora. Pretty lame.
Ya this is supposed the same Savitar from season 3 the same savitar that outran Barry,Wally and Jay the same speedster who killed Iris why is he killed so easily.
It sucks too cuz Savitar is my second favorite flash villain (right behind Thawne). It would have been sick to see an emotional fight between him and Nora since he's literally an evil version of her father. But nah, he just idle poses and says nothing in 80% of his screentime
They had originally planned for Savitar to be out of the suit and share a cool interaction with Teddy Sears’ Zoom but Grant got COVID during filming so they had to scrap the scene.
And the fact that She defeated him like it was nothing when it took All of Barry’s might and skill in order to Beat him in season 3 makes this season look like complete and utter dogshit compared to the previous seasons
@@MaximumPrime what's funnier is she stabs his armor but bro just dies right then and there like what? 💀
Can't believe they did Zoom like that. Not only giving him a Party City mask, but giving him a dope ass line that was a nice callback to season 2, but he says it then just dies. Never let Eric Wallace near anything movie/TV related again.
Funny but true
Zoom jr
Zoom had the best scene and it’s expected for him to lose to a literal goddess the speedsters never stood a chance tbh
@@Starzig123 bro💀
@@Starzig123 💀
My problem with Cecil, on top of what already was mentioned, was that she always announced she could feel what ever emotion was being felt. The other members of the team already know her powers & they added that sound for us viewers to know when her power activates. So she doesn’t need to announce it all the time. She’s always announcing “I feel…or I senses…sudden waive of *enter any emotion*…” just say something like, “I understand what or how you’re feeling right now“ or something less abrupt. I get it makes sense in some scenarios, but it got so annoying when she would say it nearly every time she used her powers. Just mentioned the emotion your feeling without making a big announcement about it. She would be so extra with some times.
I never want to hear that sound effect of her "feeling someone's emotions" ever again
Fans: Why did you bring the old villains back and not use them?
Eric Wallace: To give people hope, so i could rip it away.
crazy how the side characters suck so bad that we rooting for the villains😂
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
@@Titan_Abhay_007 this really needed to be 2 episodes, I kinda like the script from skimming through it in 1 minute
T R U E
This is hella lot better than today's shit episode
FR
This show inspires me because it means that no matter how stupid of a person you can be, you too can be in charge of a famous comic book characters tv show and run it to the ground. I genuinely hope Eric Wallace doesn't get another job like this lol
I hope eric wallace never gets a job in TV again, and i wish he never became showrunner of the flash in the first place
I don't know anything about Eric Wallace, but i think his secret is nepotism.
I don't even understand how he got the job in the first place. It's as if the resume requirements were 2 brain cells, which I'm not even sure Eric fit that. A 2 year old would have written better television then this.
2 things I do like about this episode.
1. Eddie being the final villian could habe been verry symbolic as he endee season one and could have ended the show by reliving that sacrifice and coming into realization that his rebirth was unatural. Just kinda have him back for closure.
2. The godspped and cecile fight, not because it was good but because they put the worse charecters together so I could just fast forward through those parts.
Grant Gustin is literally the Andrew Garfield of DC
I can't believe Joe and Cecile weren't married this entire time💀
I thought they were 💀
Someone should really take that scene and photoshop Eric Wallace's face on Joe.
Me too
who tf cares if they got married u saw villains losing to cecil allegra etc and thats your comment? seriously
@@williamalpha560 I agree the episode has many other bigger flaws, but most people have commented on them already. I haven't seen a single comment on how ridiculous it is that Joe and Cecile have been together for 6 years, have a 5 year old kid, and throughout all that time they've just been boyfriend and girlfriend😭.
Three things:
1. Grant been acting his butt off in this show for 9 years. Can’t wait for what he does next.
2. Didn’t Eddie already make peace with the fact he was never going to be with Iris before he died? It feels like that fact kinda got glossed over.
3. WHERE TF WAS CISCO? Like they at least could’ve mentioned his name or show a flashback or reminisce on a memory or something.
for number 2, that was the crystal/negative speed-force tricking him. That's why at the end he was able to get out of the control and be back to how he was before he died. Being at peace with it.
Cisco and Ralph were the best side characters in this show (from the good guys), when they dropped out the show went downhill. It is a shame they didn't get any recognition in the last episode. (I know Ralph got cancelled IRL but still...)
@@pajcsilol the ralph situation was unfortunate. And i did look it up, Carlos Valdes (Cisco) can’t work it out in his schedule to make it but they could’ve at least mention his name or have him do a video call or something.
They mentioned his name when barry disappeared. If i remember correctly, something about him being at argus???
Probably scheduling. Cisco is on another show btw
Ive been watching the Arrowverse shows since about 2015, ive never thought they were amazing but i loved them because of their goofy cheesey charm, however im glad to see that im not the only one that realises how bad the shows got in the later seasons, and yes this episode was truly an incredibly disappointing way to end a saga thats been a huge part of my life's entertainment, and being part of the film industry myself (im a freelance cameraman and i have written and directed a couple of award winning shorts) i thought i would give my 2 cents on all of this.
Unfortunately when it comes to this business, the majorty of people involved in creating it dont actually care that much about the story, fan service, source material, good character arks etc. To the majority of them, this is just a job. I know its hard to understand that if you're coming from outside the industry and you would give anything to be on one of these sets, but the sad reality is that for most of the crew members, as high up as the director sometimes, even sometimes the actors, this is just how they make their living and that's all it will ever be for them. There's no care for anything other than the fact that this makes them money.
I mean i get it, if this is what they are good at and how best it is for them to make their living, then they have every right to do it. But its not like they are working in a coffee shop, only half-a**ing the coffees they make and it dissapoints a few people for a few minutes. Half-a**ing shows and movies genuinely impacts enourmous amounts of people in how they escape their every day lives, and if their form of escapism fails them, then they can be left lost.
Thats just my thoughts on everything about this sucky final episode and all of the suckiness that came with the last few seasons of all the arrowverse, and tbf maybe the hollywood industry in general with it churning out terrible stuff lately. It makes me sad..
SIDE NOTE: on the "terrible CGI" stuff, the reason it looks so awful is because it's a full CGI recreation inside of a software like Unreal Engine, it's so much cheaper for them to just recreate it all that way rather than film real shots for it, but because they are cutting it next to real shots it looks very weird and not to mention the animation on the 3D puppets look inhuman. It seems like they gave Uni students with Unreal Engine experience their first go in the industry to keep the prices down so i wouldnt be surprised if this was the case.
that honestly makes so much sense into why lots of tv and film suck nowadays lol
2:30 in this scene is he giving away his full speed
@NathanVMountain, this is a CW probem - not a "Hollywood and TV industry as a whole" problem. When the past couple years have brought us stuff like Del Toro's Pinochio, Puss N Boots The Last Wish, Arcane, Across the Spiderverse, Last of Us HBO, Top Gun Maverick, The Bad Guys, etc, I would say that there is still passion left in Hollywood and the industry- just gotta know where to look.
@@Stew91 Just because 10 in every 1000 new things that get made is good doesn't mean there is a lot more good than you think, and trust me, I have heard from close sources that a lot of sets from these films and tv shows were not great to work on at all.
Arrowverse would have been great if they didn't mess up the later seasons. Arrow and flash should have got a satisfying series finale.
Hugh Jackman is Wolverine. Stephen Amell is Arrow. Grant Gustin is Flash to me. Tom Cavanagh has such a good screen presence with Grant. You hit the nail on the head with the fact even the title of the final episode was bad. They did every character a disservice. I would have liked Barry to go back in time and get the Impossible speech from Harrison Wells. Would have been such a good call back getting him to again say "Run Barry Run". From there, like another person mentioned, have Savitar help Barry defeat the Legion of Zoom.
This season is comparable to a college student who doesn't care about an essay but is still forced to write it but does so in carelessness, no motivation, and rushes to finish it. Then they decide not to double check the work and just simply turn it in just to get it over with.
A perfect summary of the season and its finale.
This is oddly accurate
The Arrowverse has felt like it's on life support since Crisis on Infinite Earths and how they went around this season confirms it. If they cared they would've cut the filler episodes and halted the show while Grant was out with the big sick.
accurate
I was sad to hear that Grant had broken his back recently from carrying the show for 9 years
😂😂😂
The thing is thawne doesn’t even use his speed it’s ridiculous
I choose to believe the series ended at Episode 10. Grant was an amazing Flash. The writers were the true villains this season.
I have no clue how Eric Wallace did not get fired 10 times over
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
@@Titan_Abhay_007 okay chill
@@Titan_Abhay_007 okay chill
@@Titan_Abhay_007 okay chill
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Realistically, bringing those villains back would've never worked in just 40 minutes. Because of this, the villains were just humiliated and their entire seasons have been proved worthless. Loved the cecile show!
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
@@Titan_Abhay_007 I would 1000000000% watch this instead of the cw flash season 9 ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
@@Titan_Abhay_007 Definitely would have been better than Eric Wallace shit writing
I mean, they could have made it work.
But they didn't even get 40 minutes. They got like a total of 15 or 20.
They should’ve been the villains from the very start of season 9 not the final few episodes that ruined the pacing completely, they could’ve took their time and built up a more dramatic narrative
I do want to shout out Rick Cosnett. Despite some pretty bad writing, he actually did a really good job in these last four episodes and made Eddie's journey just slightly better as a result. I enjoyed every scene he was in just due to his and Grant's acting. Very good actor, and I'm glad he got a little more time on the show, even though it was in this terrible new version of the show we've had for the last few years.
There was a technical explanation as to why Savitar was in costume all episode. Grant was meant to reprise the role of Savitar Barry, but apparently, he ended up getting COVID, so instead, he appeared in his speedster suit as a compromise
Bro , Eric Wallace is truly zoom .
He gave us hope with ep 10 only to snatch it away with this
@Riley Garraway so you are satisfied?
@@sahilsinghrautela743 at least somebody liked it
@@ImJordanFr Liking shit doesn't mean it's good. Imagine someone thinking the finale season where it's ok that the writing is so bad that unlikable side characters somehow become the main focus over the title character and mc that they get asspull powers with no build up including their introduction/purpose. Ah yes. It's "We Are the Flash."
@@sahilsinghrautela743 If someone makes a Batman film in which Superman swoops in the climax and whoops all the Batman villains, says Hey Bruce, and fcks off to Metropolis, he will still think it is a great Batman movie. 😂
He gave us hope so he could rip it away from them
i still can't believe that they brought zoom back just to ruin him and gave cecil the power of flight
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
@@Titan_Abhay_007 It's over, do the episode again and with this story. fuck erick wallace you ruined everything im fucking crying of anger
Absolutely 🐕💩
Well it makes sense that he couldn't hang. It would be like bringing back Perfect Cell and having him defeat Broly. Flash and them done leveled up so many times since then what chance did Zoom have. But yeah, the finale was lack luster.
This made me lose all the respect I ever had for zoom
Grant Gustin's back from carrying the entire season from the start to finish has to be a nightmare to maintain.
A better ending for the flash would have been if Savitar (Future Dark Berry Allen) realizes what is going on and instead of trying to kill the flash... he takes on the other three speedsters because he once was the same flash who went against all three. The motive and anger towards the other three speedsters would be justified. While Savitar and the other team flash members are taking on the three speedsters; BOTH Berry and Nora attempt to stop/help Cobalt Blue (Eddie Thawn). Meanwhile the battle rages on with team flash plus Savitar against the other three speedsters that have clearly proven very powerful opponents to the flash in previous seasons. Zoom kills Chill Blaine ultimately leading to Katelyn Snow (Apparently a goddess now) killing zoom providing closure with those three characters. Godspeed uses his ability to make many copies of himself to mess with everyone whilst the real one finally does kill Cecil. Because who actually likes Cecil Horton's charter? Especially in the later seasons. Ultra Violet (Alegra Garcia) killing Godspeed from seemingly nowhere to help the teams cause. Reverse Flash tries to kill them all because he hates them so much, but eventually ends up with a 1v1 against Savitar (Future Dark Berry Allen) and gets absolutely slaughtered by Savitar. Finally giving Dark Berry his much needed closure by killing his greatest enemy. Now Flash (Present Berry Allen) and XS (Nora Allen) are in the midst of fighting Cobalt Blue when all of a sudden Savitar comes to aid them. WIth all three speedsters being too much for Eddie to handle he flees and runs to the negative speedforce to obtain more speed. That's when Berry would then be able to save Eddie (Like they did in the episode, but better). The closing scenes are as followed: Joe and the family attending Cecil's funeral, during the funeral Dark Berry shows up and reconciles with everyone after what he did in season three, but shows he made up for it in season nine. Dark Berry says his goodbyes and leaves. Ultimately leaving his future open, but with good closure. Then jumping to another scene where the goddess leaves Katelyn and she is left mourning the loss of Chill Blaine. Berry and Iris finally have their baby with Nora holding herself (Like in the episode) and Eddie Thawn arriving and reconciling with Berry (Like in the episode). Alegra and Chester Runk gets together. Though the team suffers tremendous loss they all come together as friends, family, and former enemy (Savitar). They all find peace and love within each other and help each other with their losses. This definitely has to make the episode a much longer one, but that is what the fans deserve, a good proper send off. Though my fifteen year old mind has definitely wrote some flaws... I feel as though this is much better and more competent than "The Great" Eric Wallace's mind. Please do give me feedback I would love to hear it, but I understand that this is a lot to read.
Excellent. This is the episode we should've gotten. Good writing
U wrote a better episode than the writers themselves
@@saadmahmood1970 Thank you sir
@@danyaelle1753 Thank you good fellow
I would of loved this.
Despite nine seasons of low and high points, Grant Gustin has been carrying this show on his back for almost a decade, and for that I will forever be a fan of his and hopefully he can finally branch out into other things.
I'd be okay if he was cast for Atlantis: the Lost City live action. But I am sure they want a younger cast
The writers did carry the show till season 4 and maybe 5( the rf plot was fire) but grant really made us feel that season 9 apart from episode 9 and 10 was a little bit good
"Despite nine seasons of low and high points" This show has just been low points after season 3 LOL.
@@alexisjun season 4 was good
I love how reverse flash and Barry struggled to defeat Godspeed but yet Cecil can just move her arms like in the air and make him faint like wtf is this shit 😂😂
It pissed me off because you can see how scripted it was. She would hold out her arms first, then like a full half-second later the SPEEDSTER would run into her force field or whatever.
Yeah I'm sorry but how tf could she even react to Godspeed
She got the force
My thoughts exactly.
She can manipulate the mind plus she feed of emotions lol know her power ability before criticism.
As someone who rage quit after Barry's infamous breakdancing scene, I'm really glad I never came back.
This would be how I would want it to end:
Eddie brings back the speedsters, but the negative speed force alters their memories, so that there is no way they remember what the other villian speedster did to them. They instead have memories of Flash being solely the cause of their sorrow.
Now, Godspeed doesnt remember Thawne, Savitar doesn't remember Zoom killing his father, and stuff is chill. However, due to a deeper connection to the NSF, Thawne is secretly free of this manipulation. He realises Eddie's motives, and decides to loosely hang in with the crew, acting as if he too is under the same manipulation.
Eddie incites them to team up against team Flash strategically.
Godspeed and Savitar, start stalking Team Flash by attacking them without Barry's knowledge. Nobody else knows who they are, or can see them clearly, as Barry and Nora are elsewhere fighting Eddie. Eddie seemingly surrenders, but cleverly escapes and vanishes, just as Barry is informed of an attack. He comes to fight Savitar and Godspeed(Nora engages Godspeed) who lure them away from Star Labs, and holds up fairly well, but Nora is subdued(this would be a good place to put some good Godspeed fights). Nora does manage to free herself like she did from Savitar here, but doesn't kill Godspeed, and right as they pin the villains down, Zoom enters, holding Cecile and Chester(forgot his name) hostage. Khione is nowhere to be seen as Eddie has trapped her and Allegra in the NSF temporarily.
Barry is forced to spare Savitar and Godspeed, and tried to outsmart Zoom, but zoom predicts this, and ends up killing Chester(Cecile could still lives by somehow using her powers). Zoom then nearly kills Barry, but Nora and Cecile save him(mainly Nora, Cecile could just be a little help).
Barry senses something is not right, since if all speedsters return, there is still one unheard of. He suddenly realises that Llegra and Khione are missing, but Eddie has by now released them. We get an emotional moment for Allegra as she cries over Chester's death.
All this while, Thawne has been watching this. He wants to kill Barry himself, but has also realised that he wont be able to beat Zoom(yes, he realises that despite a speed advantage, Zoom is acing him). So he decides to pit him against Savitar by revealing who Savitar is.
We get a match up between Team Flash and the villians, we pair Flash with Zoom and Savitar(flash is faster but there's 2 of them), Nora engages Godspeed again, and Thawne and Eddie engage the rest. Thawne holds back because he is looking for the right moment to do anything to bring him on top, since he know eddie and Zoom need to be cleared before. We do get a bit of Cecile fighting, but just mind tricking the villians, and not just flying everywhere, and none of that super overpowered ability she used here against Godspeed.
As Zoom and Savitar defeat Barry and are about to kill him, a disruption occurs, both want to kill him himself. As they start arguing a bit, Thawne breaks the NSF manipulation and reveals Savitar to the others. We now have an angry Zoom looking at an angry Barry who now remembers zoom killing his father, and Thawne killing his mother, and the two start fighting. Godspeed is more concerned about Thawne killing him, and tries to kill him, but gets killed instead by Thawne.
The battle between the two starts wreaking the city, and Barry is desperate to resolve this. Thawne suggests trapping them in time, in a way to destroy both of them.
They travel to the day of the particle accelerator explosion.
They somehow manage to send the fighting duo there too, but Barry doesnt let Nora come. There, they trap them inside the accelerator right as it is activating, and escape. This causes a bit of malfunction in the accelerator.
We get a glimpse of Harrison-Thawne of the past, about to activate the accelerator, but stops right before doing so, as he suddenly senses himself travelling through to the current time(just like he paused in s5).
Eddie, now being down three men, is desperate to kill Barry, so he rejoins with Thawne to kill Barry above Star Labs.
It is here, where we once again get a glimpse of past Thawne who manages to see himself, Barry and Eddie running and fighting. He barely misses Eddie's face.
Upon final confrontation, when Barry is now outnumbered and has no tricks left, he tries to remind Eddie about everything. He reminds him of the person he's siding with being the one person he hated. Thawne, and the NSF try otherwise, and we get a heated fight between them as Eddie struggles. He finally is free of the NSF, and together with Barry, they fight Thawne who has now gone full bloodlust on Barry. They subdue him, and Thawne fatally wounds Eddie. Eddie makes a final sacrifice; he grabs Thawne, and tells Barry to hit Thawne with his strongest lightning, right as Eddie pulls him down from the roof to the accelerator, right as the acceleratpr fires off. We see Zoom finally killing Savitar, but immediately get caught in the accelerator program. The powers of Eddie, Thawne, Zoom and the residual power of Savitar all mix up into the accelerator explosion, and reach out to the sky to then form the lightning that strikes Barry.
The story then follows with the happy ending storyline.
Bloody perfect mate some deaths too so we got stakes
Instead of the supporting cast, each member the Legion of Zoom should have fought a returning speedster! Think about it:
Jay Garrick vs Zoom. Jay absorbs Zoom’s speed, taking revenge for what Zoom did to him in season 2 AND calling back to the Earth-90 Flash.
Wally West vs Savitar. Wally finally gets some kind of grand heroic moment, closing out Wally and Savitar’s rivalry from season 3.
Impulse vs Godspeed. I don’t like either character but at least it would have made sense to pair them up given their alleged rivalry in season 7.
Nora vs Thawne. Thawne tries and fails to manipulate Nora like he did in season 5.
Meanwhile Barry fights Cobalt Blue, and it ends like this: Barry convinces Eddie to stop like in the episode, so Thawne seizes the opportunity for one last battle with Barry. Thawne nearly kills Barry and for a moment all seems lost, with the skies turning red due to the Negative Speef Force. It looks like the newspaper about Flash vanishing in crisis is about to come true…but then Eddie (maybe with some help from Timeless Wells) uses the Negative Speed Force to kill Thawne like in season 1, but this time getting to stay alive and be the hero.
Eddie masters the crystal and calls away the red skies, changing history for the better and proving that the Negative Speed Force can coexist with the Positive.
I mean come on Eric. This isn’t as hard as you make it seem.
That would be PERFECT
they should have made you the writer
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
why are people like u with true talents don't get the chance to direct a legendary show like Flash. I was soo disappointed at the finale...
@@Titan_Abhay_007 damn u are nxt lvl bro, and how could they didn't bring cisco back :(
The final battle was certainly VERY underwhelming. It’s VERY disrespectful to the villains of how easily they were all defeated. Like it literally took one or multiple seasons for all of them to be defeated, and this how they treat them? You have Allegra of all people, being the one who defeats Eobard for the last time?? And we shouldn’t be surprised at this point, about how ridiculously overpowered Cecile is 🙄. She’s basically a Doctor Strange/Jean Grey hybrid at this point, No other words for her.
Barry didn’t even get to fight them. In fact Barry didn’t even land a single blow to anyone, the first half of this episode was him getting his ass beat by Negative Eddie (yes I’m calling him that, because he never had blue lightning like he supposed to).
But at least the final part of the episode was bittersweet. Sucks that Cisco, Bart and Wally couldn’t be apart of this, but hey I didn’t expect too much for this episode, just a bittersweet goodbye and that’s it
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
It’s just cause Eric Wallace loves the supporting characters too much and didn’t care about what the audience very clearly really wanted, we have to accept that sadly.
The shows move in real time your there telling me it took 6 months plus just to figure out how to beat zoom in s2
@@PhenomenalOne1000 he literally said an season of a show, not a season in general 💀
@@Titan_Abhay_007Synder Cut Flash
This episode and season was mostly a load of sickening sweet sentimental mush full of twaddle and the weakest superhero/villain conflicts I've seen in 40 years. As a writer I would be so embarrassed. I can't imagine what it took for the actors to have to spew out such verbal and visual diarrhea.
Everything you said is just so right!!! I wrote all this out in a review and was hoping I wasn’t the only one. It brings me peace knowing someone else despises the lazy writers in this shows several last seasons. AND THE FLASHBACKS …we aren’t stupid! We remember what happened like moments ago. Thank you
I mean it all sucked, the side characters, taking down the villains, the dialogue, the minimal Barry, all the Cecile, Chester, Allegra, and Keione moments (Sidenote: Why is she even here she didn’t even matter, so what was the point of killing off Caitlyn for the entire final season?) and finally what did they do to Zoom his eyes look awful.
Ong Khione had no grand overarching purpose.
did you miss the part where she had to accened to create balance between the forces?
@@mjtalky9136don’t even get me started on the forces and all this other crap that the writers added in. The show peaked in season 4 and has been downhill since
Swapping khione for Caitlin is probably the fairest trade this show has ever made with the case. Followed by HR for Iris
@@Body.By.Bennett dude i get your point but season 4 where shit started with devoe’s gizllion powers and barry getting beaten every single time ,also iris with “we are the flash “ type bulshiitt😮😂 Cicade was better villain but even that they stratched too much
Another thing that felt off was the atmosphere of the episodes- where are the regular civilians running around because their office or car just exploded? The city feels almost empty excluding the main characters
Thanks for the review, the episode as a whole was SPECTACULARLY disappointing.
Let's just all remember that this episode doesn't just mark the ending of the flash, but the conclusion of a 11 year running DC continuity as a whole, with a great beginning with arrow, then the flash, supergirl, dc legends of tomorrow, black lightning, and batwoman. Although they weren't all great and most certainly had its ups and downs, it was a long and suspenceful universe that's had great life-defining storylines, sent positive and noble messages, and has created and shaped COUNTLESS childhoods and early experiences.
Arrow and black lightning had worthy and respectable send-offs, but batwoman and the legends were just done SO dirty with the cliffhangers prior to their cancellations, and supergirl...
The series finale had terrible fight scenes, embarrassing dialogue, disgraceful CGI and completely BUTCHERED lex luthor.
But this final season of the flash was the opportunity to right those obvious wrongs, but somehow, aside from those two amazing episodes, it didn't just LARGELY disrespect the legacy of the arrowverse, it basically made the flash alone largely redundant in his OWN SHOW! This episode did have its positives, but they are COLOSSALY outweighed by the negatives. Grant gustin was phenomenal in his role and he was absent for almost 3 episodes in the final season of his own show and was tossed aside like garbage in the overall scope of the storylines and character development on his OWN SHOW!What the actual hell was eric Wallace on??
I mean take a damn hint! Nobody cares about these disgraceful, disturbing and annoying (apart from iris and joe who were done SO dirty) side characters! Just like with arrow season 4, they stole the damn show from the main character and reduced him to a side character in his OWN show! Even the way the legacies of the amazing villains were reduced to a laughing stock! What the fuck!
But cecile is the WORST character in the arrowverse as a whole, her actress must have been fucking eric wallace off-screen to get anywhere CLOSE to the amount of screentime, attention and pointless development cecile got. i don't give a SHIT how annoying felicity got, it was nowhere CLOSE to beating cecile, Cecile and khione's awful storylines were the show's highest and most frequent focus, don't even get me started on chester and allegra's storyline, this is a joke! Nobody cares!
But in conclusion, (sorry i know it's long) this was a horrendous and humiliating end to a 11 year long great franchise, and it truly makes me SO sad to know that one of the best universes on modern television today ends on a feeling of embarrassment and sadness instead of closure and satisfaction, because now we never know if oliver's son William is alive or dead, we never find out what happens with agent odell and the shadow board on black lightning, who killed the reporter on batwoman, how the world reacts to supergirl's identity, and the legends and booster gold are rotting in time jail for the rest of eternity. All of these questions will never be answered, and it's all thanks to missed opportunities and terrible decisions, I'm going to miss this universe and everything it gave me, and how it's impacted the world, including the flash itself, I'll be sure to remember it all, and its greatest villain (other than eobard thawne, adrian chase, and the anti-monitor) Eric Wallace.
Sigh...Goodbye arrowverse!
Thank you everyone for reading.
You ever watch something so bad your faith in your own writing grows?
Yeah, that’s me
I actually teared up a bit because of how bad it was like no way they did that to the og villains 😭
Bro I literally cried for how bad the season ended 😭 literally zoom and reverse were my favorites and they ruined them so horribly
I was so destroyed of what went on with this finale after I watched it
How a superhero show make me feel like I was watching a regular sitcom after season 5
I was literally cheering for reverse flash to kill Chester in that scene, my immense disappointment when Chester was suddenly revived by nothing.
I think they should have committed an episode to each of these villains so they had their chance to shine one last time. Was really bummed how they took zoom and savitar out
Couldn’t agree more! Scratch the whole Batwoman arc and replace it with this and maybe just maybe this season would of been dare I say it… “good”
@@jimbo103189 Exactly. I never understood why Red Death was apart of Season 9.
@@illusionStudios Red Death was supposed to be Kate Kane but Ruby Rose left and the studio got pissed
They should leave red death, reconstruct the character completely(feel like zoom in season 2), bring goats back with an episode for each one of them and then all of them fight against barry ALONE(maybe with jay or cisco)
I was truly excited to watch the arrowverse's last episode. I feel so so angry towards how this man, mister wallace, has treated such a great part of my childhood. Arrow was my favorite show, we've got an incredible and emotional ending, and they should've just copied arrows s8, thats what we wanted. I cant even imagine how flash's fans, people who this show was their favorite part of their childhood, feel. Hope cecile can tell you, Eric.
and thank you black lion for your content throughout all these seasons. Really glad i found your channel back in the day. Hope you can update some arrowverse rankings (seasons, main villains) with these last years, even though they havent been as awesome as the good old days.
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
I couldn't agree with you more I hope he doesn't get work after this, atleast not on any popular shows because he actually made me resent this show that I used to love
I honestly feel like there was something going between him and the actress lol
@@Titan_Abhay_007 the entire season could've been cobalt blue recruiting foes from the past and sending them to torment barry, iris, Joe and Caitlin across the episodes
Where was Joe and Cecile’s daughter Jenna? Every character is there, baby Nora, adult Nora, the doppelgänger parents, whatever version of Harrison Wells! But no Jenna.
I agree. Not only was this finale bad in the show, but the last few seasons since Cisco departed. Cecile shouldn't have been a superhero as she was already developed from earlier seasons as a lawyer. Yet they gave her powers using audio queues for the audience which were lame and never gave a full on character arch for her developing her powers even further, nor her costume - how did she get it? Especially her 'sudden' ability to fly.
The fact that Cisco didn’t show up was honestly the saddest part for me, I so badly wanted to see him and Barry have a moment at the week-later gathering at the end. I know Carlos had scheduling issues but still, something could’ve been arranged. That and Grant’s incredible acting feels so wasted. Hopefully we’ll see him in something great soon
Maybe Carlos read the scripts and thought: "Are they serious? I thought WE had trippy scenes back then, but this shit puts 'cringe' on a whole new level. I'll pass."
Nada nuevo viniendo de la persona cuya trayectoria sólo será recordada por sacar a los personajes más importantes para intentar reemplazarlos con personajes completamente aburridos y sin nada que los caracterice, No entiendo como duro tanto escribiendo la serie ese hombre
Probably scheduling. He his on another show
he couldnt, not only did he have scheduling issues, but he literally just couldnt
Actor was smart to not come bk in fact he saved vibe character 😂
In defense of Savitar the reason he didn’t unmask himself is because Grant Gustin got covid. Grant revealed that there were plans for him to play Savitar outside of the suit and share a scene with Zoom, but because he got covid they couldn’t do it and they were only able to delay filming for Grant for a couple days. The reason the suit was red is because he was connected to the negative speedforce because remember he wasn’t in season 3. It’s the same reason Zoom and Godspeed had red lightning
There's irony somewhere in there about masking
Doesn't really make sense for the suit to turn red, I mean in S3 the suit turned red cause Barry(using a red suit) got inside of it, did Savitar turn red after connecting to the negative speed force?
@@geminiandromeda8082 yes
@@tommydevito4105 oof so he just turned into darth maul lmao?
@geminiandromeda8082 Yes, that was just because this savitar was connected to the negative speedforce. I don't know why it turned red when Barry was in it tho. Maybe just to tell the difference
The Flash villains in this episode were like anime villains: They were terrible and hard to defeat in their first appearances, ando now they are nerfed.
At least arrow's final season was always consistent in terms of quality, but the writers of the flash are simply soy boys and feminists...
I'm still disappointed that none of these characters have died. Also why didn't Thawne use his vibrating hand
Could you imagine how happy this fan base would be if we got Cecile, Allegra, Chester, and cramer and got offed in one episode. Ahhahahaha
Also I hate that when thawne tries to use his vibrating hand, he does it so slowly almost like he wants Barry to run in and stop him. He could literally kill someone before they even know that he's there. Arrow also had this problem with Damien darhk. He takes so much time to kill the heroes almost like he wants someone to save them. He could literally snap someone's neck by moving a single muscle.
@@JustanotherNPC8454 am not sure but i think he slows down because of barry and thats what we are seeing. For example at season 1 he killed cisco instantly. Dont know about other case though
The fact that they still went with Ezra Miller for the Flash movie when Grant was literally a godlike portrayal of the Flash literally breaks my heart tbh. Also I agree, how they ended the show was really terrible and I think they should try to fix it but we know thats never gonna happen unless they decide to magically bring it back for 1 more season and fix everything that should've never been in this final season.
Watch them bring the show back for another season, only for it to be about Cecile
@@EliC09 spinoff with Cecile allegro and Chester
I liked how at moments in the show Barry could run across the entire planet in a split second but when there’s a huge emergency in central city he basically jogs and takes him like a minute to get there😂
In the comics telepathic powers don’t work on speedsters because they move and think too quickly which they even jokingly refer to in an episode when Nora says good thing Grodds powers don’t work on us. This same show had Barry afraid of falling so I expect so little. He can run a the speed of light meaning his body regularly faces more force than a fall from any height could ever come close to producing.
HOW did Savitar get beat so easily. Bro was whooping Barry's weak season 3 bottom dragging him through the speed force. Now he gets like 2 lines in an episode and gets defeated by being scratched in the back by his own blade that his daughter used. Even if she did phase and grab the blade, he's still gotta be like TEN TIMES FASTER SO WHY DID HE JUST STAND THERE? And also, Zoom was fast enough 7 YEARS AGO to catch lightning and throw it back as a solid object but now he's not fast enough to move out of the way of his own lightning thrown BACK AT HIM BY KHIONE???
Bruh as much as I hate Godspeed he should have mopped the floor with Cecile. Did the writers forget that he could teleport? And that his clones have nearly infinite stamina? And why is Reverse Flash electrocuting people? His signature move was stabbing people through the heart, or did they forget?
@@supapiece3439 that's facts. They did a bad job with Godspeed but Cecile has human reaction time. Pretty sure those clones were only moving at max 25 MPH at her for her to block them telepathically. Both Gods of speed god ripped by C tier superheros
@@supapiece3439 Its the fact that these speedster villains forget that they're speedsters and stand there and subject themselves to normal human attacks 💀
In the defense of Nora beating Savitar; this Nora is way more experienced than the Barry that fought Savitar in the earlier seasons, so I'll give her the pass on being able to beat him, but the way she did it was wack though.
Apparently Khione is a goddess or whatever(I remember someone saying her comic book counterpart is) but im not giving her a pass because Zoom didn't get to do NOTHING, just yell at cops.
The godspeed fight made me cringe, because season 8 Barry couldn't beat him alone but she can? I don't even like cw godspeed and his defeat was bad to me.
The fact Eobard didn't kill Chester when he has a record of killing people quick and efficient makes me sad that this is the last time we see him. It's to a point I want a retelling of the cw flash made into movies and don't put the this show runner on it, the fact he brought back the past villains for the hype factor but fumble it was disappointing asf.
@@sonnymcgmlb Cecile should have at least done a big AOE mind blast after getting hit a few times, but Godspeed didn't even scratch her
You hit on a lot of the issues I've had with the show/side characters/this episode. Such a shame 'cause I used to really enjoy watching it. Like you said, I barely even remember where Chester came from and I barely care. The villains needed more/better screen time
it all lead up to this and all the villains were defeated in 21 minutes like wtf
The fact that flash needed a team to take on his past villiains even though he could've done it himself is laughable which is why I'm glad the show ended for good
Bro they were all speed boosted.....
@@smortlogician9258 even then, speed boosted past villains that Barry won against while having less speed than now, versus a veteran and really powerful Barry should've worked. But no, he gets thrown to the floor and saved nu the suppprting cast three or four times.
What's laughable is thinking that the Flash is supposed to fight multiple supervillians with speed not focused on just him. So what Team Flash was a thing? Just like Team Arrow was a thing. I didn't have a problem with it because it made sense when the Flash would come across multiple threats. And Flash, the Arrow including Batman all had sidekicks and would get help from others or assist them in the comics. The only problem I had with the Flash which caused me to stop watching it for a while is because of the tone and lighting which is bad enough because of the comedy and family friendly vibe. Other than that I don't believe in openly criticizing a TV show that is from a genre that is not represented enough on TV. Because when these shows are gone what else are they going to do?
This show hasnt Been great since end of season 4 in my opinion had good moments here and there but on the whole wasn't great
@@alexcooper849 I'd say season 2 for me and it's so dragged down by its terrible writing and side characters
Zoom, Savitar And Revers Flash deserved better!
Absolutely they definitely deserved better.
FR
Godspeed deserved better too
Very disappointed they didnt get to keep blue lightning
It should've been Bart, Nora, Wally, and Jessie Quick helping Barry against them. A total speedster battle royale.
This is how the flash shoulda ended......
Everything was descent until the fight scene. So have the villains kill the characters with their vibrating hand but leave Barry. Then cobalt blue brings Barry where the fight started and all villains harm him. Barry then gets up and runs back in time to save the timeline. This time since his team didn’t work, he needed a speedster team. Him, Wally, Jay, maybe Jesse quick or just reuse XS try and fIght the villains. In the meantime, the team is at the hospital with iris or in the lab working out stuff. This can be where Catlin comes back somehow and Cisco comes for a visit from Argus. Barry, Wally, jay and Nora or Jesse fight the villains but they nearly kill them but Barry as they all meet up together. Barry argues and tells them that it’s his fight and he’s guilty that everyone he loved died in the future. So he does a 1v5 showdown leaving reverse flash as the final battle.
Can’t believe it’s finally over. What a bad finale and last few seasons…
Thank you for all the reviews throughout the years! I’ll miss those
Bad last six seasons. Six!
Flash just got hella lazy after savitar tbh.
@@Mythowars S5 was watchable and adequate, other seasons weren’t great.
I don't remember anything after Savitar lmao
season 4 was pretty decent icl and mostly everyone hated s5 but i actually liked it i think its decent aswell but after that everything goes downhill but s8 wasnt that bad
I just wished they went with Grant's idea of referencing the comic with him becoming the lightning bolt that gave him powers.
Does evey sentence have to end on an upward inflection?
im glad i wasnt the only one dissapointed at chester not dying😂😂😂😂😂😂
Started this show back when it first came out. I was in 7th grade, so many good memories watching season 1 with my dad and geeking out about season 1-3 with my friends. This has to be one of the biggest falls from grace I’ve ever seen. Grant deserved better than this
As annoying as Khione being the one to defeat Zoom I was hoping for a conversation between the two since Zoom was so connected to Caitlin in season 2
I forgot about that and wouldnt be surprised if the writers did too.
When they appeared on-screen together, I immediately thought of when Zoom kills the other earth Frost.
Frost to Caitlin: He's got you now, he doesn't need me anymore. *throws icicle to kill Caitlin*
Zoom: *rushes in and stabs Frost with it* You're right. I don't.
Man, that scene is so good.
@@r.o.e.408 yea what did they do to zoom this episode
Khione was the biggest plot armor of the show smh. She kinda of popped out of no where and her powers were poorly explained. How the hell you can create a goddess of nature from trying to bring back killer frost 🤷🏾♂️
yooooo I was so confused about who tf we were dealing with when I saw Cecile in her costume! And at the end of the last episode as well. I couldn't tell if it was future or present her.
This is why I stopped watching after season 5. S1-4 are so hard to beat and I knew after S5 it would only go downhill. Great vid my man.
That “what’s happening here?!” At 10:22 felt personal 😂
I mean, at least they killed off one annoying-ass side character.
Imagine assembling all the villains but none of the heroes struggle to defeat them. Especially zoom , reverse flash and savitar like wtf they all went down so easily
Do you think any version of Barry we’ve had in this show would just get stabbed as a speedster? He gets shot by peekaboo so early in the show and dodged getting shot. He barely did but point being that was way back then and he pulled it off. Savitar is an exact copy of Barry, he just chose a different side of his emotions after abandonment happens too him. Basically put, he’s also the flash so no there’s no way in a fight anyone, ANYBODY, would land a stab on him. Utterly trash.
What really tickled me was Eddie wanted his old life back with Iris yet ge comes across as seriously gay, as in they could have wanted Eddie to want Barry instead and It would have made more sense.
Pro tip: skip every scene without Barry in it.
Honestly i lost interest in this show wayyy before the finale, I could see where it was heading. But I've always checked up on it and it feels good to see barry finally get his happy ending. Man... I'll never forget the feeling of watching season 1 for the first time, it was simply perfect. I'm sure my opinion is not completely alien in saying the show didn't fufill the potential set by the first few seasons. And it's a shame at that, but it still did have it's amazing moments. Farewell Arrowverse, farewell The Flash.
We need to start a petition to rewrite season 9 with an actual good writer.
If that’s possible💀💀💀
Ironically, that prequel trilogy about you could have also benefited from better writing.
Imagine.....
@@balazsborcsok9255 The Clone Wars helped
I hate how Ralph Dibny was just forgotten. That’s what cancel culture does
They fumbled the biggest bag ever. Bringing back the old speedster villains was so hype but goddamn it they messed it up completely!
The way I would’ve handled this would’ve involved a few switch arounds.
Starting with Barry seeing Thawne in his original costume on a rooftop as a callback to his first appearance as Reverse Flash and Barry chases him. Thawne then swaps with Zoom and Zoom with Savitar etc…
Eventually he stops at Eddie and they surround him, kick him around a bit and drag him through the speed force. They each take turns making Barry relive his worst moments with these enemies except Thawne. We’ll get to that soon.
The problem starts when they all want to be the one to kill the Flash. Eddie tries to keep them all together, but Thawne starts wispering in their ears, and helps Barry to escape. Barry finds out that he’s been returned to the day the particle accelerator exploded. We have a whole subplot about how he manipulates time to inform team flash about where he is and only the speedsters can get to him, meaning Jay, Wally, Bart and Nora. They manage to run through time to get to him and he gets a plan together to lure them into Star Labs before the accelerator explodes.
Big fight between team Flash and team Cobalt Blue, Barry vs Eddie, Wally vs Savitar, Jay vs Zoom, Bart vs Godspeed and Nora vs Thawne. The battle goes well until Eddie leaves Barry to attack Wally, giving Savitar an opening to stab him in the leg. He does the same with the others and gets Zoom to take their speed, leaving Barry the last one standing with the lives of his friends hanging in the balance. Eddie gives him a chance to surrender, but this time Barry won’t back down. He gives Savitar the order to kill Nora, but before she gets stabbed, she suddenly swap places with Godspeed, who promptly gets impaled through the chest again. This kickstarts a fight between team Cobalt, with Savitar and Zoom going nuts on each other. Thanks to Zoom stealing the other’s speeds, they’re evenly matched. Barry uses the opportunity to get the others out of Star Labs, but are greeted outside by the Thawnes.
Barry tries to get through to Eddie, but again, Thawne is wispering in his ear egging him on. Barry points out to Eddie that he’s working with the man who he died to stop, how he sacrificed himself to save Iris and the others from him. He tells him that if this is what he chooses now, his sacrifice meant less than Eddie thought it did. Eddie comes back from the negative force and turns on his descendant. Thawne reveals that he swapped Godspeed with Nora and had been manipulating the others from the start, just because he wanted Barry for himself. He then says that either Savitar and Zoom will win in a minute and whoever wins will be that much more powerful, being more than capable of killing them all. Eddie goes to keep them in Star Labs, making amends with Barry before he goes off and sacrifices himself again. The particle accelerator explodes, absorbing Eddie, Savitar and Zoom. They becomes the lightning bolt that originally struck Barry and also strikes the other speedsters. Meanwhile Thawne runs away in the speed force, getting Barry to run after him. After Barry catches up with him they have their last dialogue as these versions, with Thawne telling Barry they are destined to do this forever, Barry telling Thawne how pathetic he is, that whole dance. Thawne then plays his last card and reveals that he trapped Barry in a certain fixed point in time (this is where I swap episodes around) which only we see is the day Thawne kills his mother. He runs away, leaving room for any possible future. That episode then plays out exactly the same except it’s the finale and the episode ends the way this episode ended. Except no Cecile.
Git wrote his own episode script
Better than what we got
I'm pretty sure anybody with an ounce of creativity could write a better episode than what was given to us here. Who ever Eric guy is should feel ashamed.
Someone give this man an Oscar!
Fucking gold. Food twists and proper character writing.
With how many times they mentioned Cisco in this season it's sad Carlos Valdes wasn't able to return for the finale
everytime nora says "shueeeeei"(something like this) i roll my eyes so hard that i think im gonna die. The funny thing about this episode is that they hate the flash so much that he is the only one who didn't defeat the villain using his own powers even tho he is supposed to be the strongest character in the show.
Arrow Finale: let’s do a badass fight scene as the main focus of the episode,
Flash Finale: let’s do a solid minute of Allegra and Chester kissing
It had some good moments but it should have been just Barry against the villains at the end
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
@@Titan_Abhay_007 eh
@@Titan_Abhay_007 I think Barry facing off the villains one by one is fine
They should have brought Wally, Jay, and Jesse to have a speedster duel. The heroes can be outnumbered and a little slower (except for the Constantly Second Fastest Man Alive), but have better synergy
They just can't😂 Because the side character need to show up. Even though we as the audience hate it.
I legit cried at Frost’s funeral for like 1 minute. Like not those momentary tears I did a full minute of emotional tears.
i have a Better script for the finale:
Cobalt blue revives godspeed, Savitar, reverse flash and zoom and teams up to fight against Barry using the cobalt blue crystal and gives them full access to the negative speed force using cobalt blue crystal. Team flash and team cobalt blue starts fighting but in team flash only khione was strong enough to stand up against those villainous speedsters but villains almost killed all the other members of team flash so khione have use her powers to keep them alive leaving Barry bloodlusted and alone totally and Villains starts chasing him across the streets. We see a 20/30 minutes long battle where villains chased Barry from all directions, godspeed showing his true speed and being in two places at the same moment like I'm comics and making his multiple clones, reverse flash making his speed mirage, zoom making his time remnants, Cobalt blue using his different kinds of abilities, Savitar showing his true potential and all of them using different kinds of speed force constructs and Barry was dodging their attacks. All the speedsters running so fast that they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to the natural forces all at once! At the end Barry has to give up being a pure hero and go for killing them as he has no choice at all and the final ending fight takes place which is a boundary between the negative and the positive forces. All the characters reached their maximum top speed at last (all being much faster than the speed of light because of which they were getting teleported from past to present to future and to natural forces), and flash being still the fastest among all of them proving that he is the fastest man in the entire multiverse! At last flash finally goes for kill and kills all the villains except eddie leaving Eddie alone and helpless. Barry tries to talk with Eddie to stop being the cobalt blue avatar but his hatred is not over yet so he doesn't give up. But at last Barry manages to remove the cobalt blue crystal from Cobalt blue suit and Barry destroys the crystal but in doing that he ends up erasing Eddie thawne accidentally as cobalt blue crystal was the reason of his existence. Barry got completely shattered with the death of Eddie thawne once again. Then Barry decides to eliminate the negative forces completely. But removing negative forces will disturb multiversal balance. So Barry runs into his full potential (showing his infinite speeds) and generates infinite amount of lightning, floods the negative forces and positive forces with his lightning that both forces got emerged and turned in a single neutral forces of the nature. Then Barry come into the present and up to that time khione manages to heal all injured people completely. Iris gives birth to Nora. Then the team flash unites for the last time in a party (joe,Cisco with kamilla, Singh, Kramer, Ralph being married with sue Dearbon all came into the gathering along with other members of the team flash and khione). Barry tells the team to flash about his fight and his decision of going for the kill and at last accidentally erasing Eddie thawne from existence. Joe comforts Barry by saying, "killing for good cause is not killing, it's saving people and that's what you always do Barry". Then Barry starts feeling better and recovers from the trauma he got by accidentally erasing Eddie. Team flash enjoys the party where Joe proposes to Cecile. Khione reveals that she is the life force to team flash. She says goodbye to team flash and leaves Catlin's body and life forces disappear in the cosmos. Team flash was happy to see Catlin. Then Cisco, Catlin and Barry hug each other (season 1 team flash reference). Each member of the flash now decides to move on and gets separated. Cecile with Joe, barry with iris, allegra and Chester marries and everyone now starts focussing on their lives. Barry, allegra, Cecile, Ralph still pursues their other life of being the hero by stopping the crimes near them. Star labs was turned into Flash museum by the government and made open for the public. Then we see Barry's family in 2049 where iris, bart, nora, all doing their jobs. Here we see Barry goes into space with the DCEU Justice League and goes to another universe for a mission and he meets DCEU flash again! Then we see the scene from the 22nd century where Flash saves the crowd from a bridge which was getting collapsed, stealing Thawne's moment of being the hero which develops a never ending hatred for Barry. Thawne now decides to dedicate his life to kill Barry. (This scene marks the end of the Flash season 9)
Exactly. Even during the Flashbacks, all I thought was: "Are you serious right now? THIS is your finale? I feel nothing."
@@Titan_Abhay_007 bro shutup
@Imtiyaaz Ahmed nah
@Imtiyaaz Ahmed what's your opinion on my script?
The show runners did this episode perfectly. It's the last episode, it's very clear they were trying to help the fan base move on. I, for one, don't feel bad at all that this show has ended. I don't feel like I'm missing out on a show I've watched for 9 years, because the writers did such a great job making me just not care by writing the worst season of the flash. Two of the villain's we've wanted the most, Red Death and Cobalt Blue, were both a joke. Sticking with just this episode though, Cobalt Blue came in at the very last episode, and instead of being comic accurate, he was just another dime store speedster that for no reason was stronger than Barry with abilities he just got. The other speedsters being defeated didn't even make sense. First off, why did everyone agree to pair off with the person across from them when all any of them wanted was Barry? The only fight that made sense with the Zoom fight, being Khion of whatever her name is, is apparently a goddess, so I get that beating a speedster. However, even with as embarrassing as Godspeed is, he shouldn't have lost that easily when it took Flash AND Reverse Flash to beat him in the first place, but she did it in minutes without breaking a sweat. Lastly, and IMO the worst fight, was Reverse Flash. Dude is supposed to be the pinnacle villain, he failed to beat Chester because Chester pulled a new ability out of his ass at the last minute (Which seems to be the theme of this episode) and Allegra of all people shows up and defeats Reverse Flash. Then defeating the final villain they've been fighting for a whole 1 episode, is by talking about their feelings and getting him to become a good guy in like 2 minutes. Then the proposal was weird because who TF knew they weren't married? I thought they were, and didn't really care. I also thought the people they chose for the new speedsters were stupid.
The villains return was the classic trope of 'how powerful the boss is when you fight it vs when you unlock it as a playable character'. Really disappointing.
My main big problem was that Cisco was not there
We can all tell they just wanted to get rid of the show at this point it's really sad cause the actors really tried to give it their all, I really hope that grant really get a chance to be in a movie of the flash and actually shows how good he is