@@SpencerDaudier there are ways around it... still not great but doubles the battery life. 300 to 500 photos, depending on how long the camera is on for.
appreciate the test. Like I said, full auto dont do their justice but each to your own. I use my R8 with HDR PQ on, so it is 10bit 4k 422 instead of 8bit 420, overheating warning comes quickly if you are behind the camera and screen folded in. No overheating if screen flips out. Battery life at 4k 422 10bit is really poor but a 22w usb PD powerbank can effectively supply 10x the juice.
the canon stabilization was way better in both modes. regarding the noise, sony is know to denoise their footage and its very apparent, you can also raise denoise level in the canon. did you use both equal settings, shutter speed, aperture? i know you adjusted iso but i didnt hear of shutter speed if that was left on auto or manual adjustment. in auto canon tend to prefer to 1/100 sony prefers 1/50 and that can make a huge difference in low light.
Yeah, I just put it on Auto on both and that is all I did for this particular test, I will continue more in depth ones with different setttings as well. Both of these are great cameras IMO.. Thank you!😊😊
Amazing test, thanks. Wish more people did the same back to back comparisons. Well, they both have FF sensor, but Canon has 24MP while Sony has 12MP. Which means that Sony has substantially bigger pixel size. Bigger pixels collect more light. Hence the better low-light performance and dynamic range. Therefore Sony is a safer choice for vloggers and is a clear winner here. However, Canon R8 feels like a better do-it-all camera, both for stills and video. And is cheaper.
If you put a native Sony lens on the Sony, the stabilisation is quite a bit better. There’s some secret sauce on that Sony don’t share with third party lens makers. Also it would have been better without a stabilised lens on the Canon. When you ran the 12800 on the Sony were you in Slog as it’s only base ISO at that in Slog. So there was no second ISO if not in Slog. There’s next to no noise on that camera in Slog 3 at 12800. The Sony destroys the Canon in low light.
Hey! I know you mentioned you were in auto mode for sony, but the colours on sony look so much more pleasing. The typical creamy sony look. Was the picture profile you shot was s cinetone? Or something else. Because I want to get the sony A7c and I'm unsure if that'll lool similar to yours, but I hope it will.
To be honest, better colors for Sony. I don't know the stability in that 1/2 and 1/2 square format! R8: to use with ISO 800 and Sony for ISO 800 and 12,000
What pp they were shot at ? The problem with sony is inconsistence in colors, shooting indoors is a nightmare, the colors and skin tones looks terrible where Canon will thrive in any lighting scenario, yes the Sony has more dinamic range but that's isn't a deal breaker for me, Clog3 will have plenty dr for my daily usage, documenting my family and so on. I have shot with the zve1 and knowing my skin tones and my family's skin tone I can safely say that Canon is the best in that regard, giving such a pleasant look.
It’s apparent the zv-e1 has jumps and jerks when the frame reaches the end of the sensor and jumps over to another portion of the sensor to compensate. Not sure what people are seeing, but I do believe the dynamic active stabe is over-hyped.
Great Question! I think I like the zve 1 slightly more for the S cinetone straight out of camera.. but honestly the R8 is a great deal, especially now you can get it around 1399 on sale or used! That is APSC range price! If battery life is important then the ZVE1 is better for that, but that does not really matter to me, I use dummy batteries in studio. leaning towards the ZVE1 as better for me, but it is a very slight edge..
ZV-E1 does better in harsher light conditions. Auto-exposure changes faster, and seems to have more dynamic range. Other than that, image quality and sharpness are the same. R8 arguably looks better under good lighting conditions.
I just don't like the look of the r8. I saw videos saying it was basically the same as the r6. Lol yea right, I don't like it though. Id rather have the m50 or the rp then the r8 from what I have seen
I returned my Zve1 and got the R8 mainly because of the skin tones, sony skin tones are freaking ugly, I mainly shoot family stuff and getting the R8 for half of the price was a wise decision.
@@ale_filmmaker3513If you shoot in standard color yes canin is better, but if you shoot in log zv-e1 is way better (more dynamic range, more flexibility to have better color and skin tone)
Very very helpful practical review! Thank you for helping me making up my mind. Selling my ZV-E1 & buying R8.
Enjoy the battery life.
Or ZV-E1 or R6 Mark II
@@SpencerDaudierbattery grip..
@@SpencerDaudier there are ways around it... still not great but doubles the battery life. 300 to 500 photos, depending on how long the camera is on for.
You could buy R6mII instead of R8
appreciate the test. Like I said, full auto dont do their justice but each to your own. I use my R8 with HDR PQ on, so it is 10bit 4k 422 instead of 8bit 420, overheating warning comes quickly if you are behind the camera and screen folded in. No overheating if screen flips out. Battery life at 4k 422 10bit is really poor but a 22w usb PD powerbank can effectively supply 10x the juice.
YES! the key is to have the screen out, thank you for sharing!😊😊
Dose r8 support 4k 60 10 bit 4.2.2 video in c log 3
@@ranishubham-oq4zb yes it does.. And it has built in false color assist. A huge plus over almost all Sony cameras to expose your video correctly
the canon stabilization was way better in both modes. regarding the noise, sony is know to denoise their footage and its very apparent, you can also raise denoise level in the canon. did you use both equal settings, shutter speed, aperture? i know you adjusted iso but i didnt hear of shutter speed if that was left on auto or manual adjustment. in auto canon tend to prefer to 1/100 sony prefers 1/50 and that can make a huge difference in low light.
Yeah, I just put it on Auto on both and that is all I did for this particular test, I will continue more in depth ones with different setttings as well. Both of these are great cameras IMO.. Thank you!😊😊
Amazing test, thanks. Wish more people did the same back to back comparisons.
Well, they both have FF sensor, but Canon has 24MP while Sony has 12MP. Which means that Sony has substantially bigger pixel size. Bigger pixels collect more light. Hence the better low-light performance and dynamic range. Therefore Sony is a safer choice for vloggers and is a clear winner here.
However, Canon R8 feels like a better do-it-all camera, both for stills and video. And is cheaper.
zv e1 has apsc sensor
@@hidden-leaf
What?
Google 'ZV-E1 specs', it says full-frame, even official site.
For a camera without stabilisation on the R8, it’s looking pretty good
Probably he's using a native lens.
If you put a native Sony lens on the Sony, the stabilisation is quite a bit better. There’s some secret sauce on that Sony don’t share with third party lens makers. Also it would have been better without a stabilised lens on the Canon.
When you ran the 12800 on the Sony were you in Slog as it’s only base ISO at that in Slog. So there was no second ISO if not in Slog. There’s next to no noise on that camera in Slog 3 at 12800. The Sony destroys the Canon in low light.
Hey! I know you mentioned you were in auto mode for sony, but the colours on sony look so much more pleasing. The typical creamy sony look. Was the picture profile you shot was s cinetone? Or something else. Because I want to get the sony A7c and I'm unsure if that'll lool similar to yours, but I hope it will.
I love Canon cameras, but i have to give this one to the Sony. It's just substantial superior in low light, no comparison, no match.
Which one of these is true to life color? Since I cannot decide between the two. 😢
SOOC is the ZVE1
White balance is all over the place on the R8. EV1 definitely better
Love the enthusiasm but no ND filter and auto WB needs to be switched to manual to adjust and balance to each other.
i wonder why the colors look so different? Did you set auto white balance in both ZVE1 and R8？ Thanks😊
Stab is better on the R8, and the E1 is equally better in lowlight. Pick your poison. Good comparison though. Thank you!
R8 is not bad, but the dynamic range on Sony is much better.
Hey the shootout! 🍻
Yes Sir! Thank you for watching and commenting and the great Ideas! You da man!😊😊
Being a canon user I can see r8 is not even close Ze E1 annihilated canon
To be honest, better colors for Sony. I don't know the stability in that 1/2 and 1/2 square format! R8: to use with ISO 800 and Sony for ISO 800 and 12,000
Hello I just want to know which brand camera has more natural color science
you can tell by watching the video.
@@SpencerDaudier You can't though. You can tell which looks better, but not which is more true to life.
What pp they were shot at ? The problem with sony is inconsistence in colors, shooting indoors is a nightmare, the colors and skin tones looks terrible where Canon will thrive in any lighting scenario, yes the Sony has more dinamic range but that's isn't a deal breaker for me, Clog3 will have plenty dr for my daily usage, documenting my family and so on. I have shot with the zve1 and knowing my skin tones and my family's skin tone I can safely say that Canon is the best in that regard, giving such a pleasant look.
other reviewers should learn from you Sir
It’s apparent the zv-e1 has jumps and jerks when the frame reaches the end of the sensor and jumps over to another portion of the sensor to compensate. Not sure what people are seeing, but I do believe the dynamic active stabe is over-hyped.
No offense, sir, but I think your test would be more useful. If you could figure out a way to put the exact same lens on both cameras
Wo😮 , now i know lense flare is the real problem, saved my money
the colors from the Sony makes you like you are suffering from pancreatitis disease. SONY can’t reach Canon colors😂🙈
Zv e1 looks better most of the time
I was not expecting this 😢
What camera do you enjoy using out of the two
Great Question! I think I like the zve 1 slightly more for the S cinetone straight out of camera.. but honestly the R8 is a great deal, especially now you can get it around 1399 on sale or used! That is APSC range price! If battery life is important then the ZVE1 is better for that, but that does not really matter to me, I use dummy batteries in studio. leaning towards the ZVE1 as better for me, but it is a very slight edge..
ZV-E1 does better in harsher light conditions. Auto-exposure changes faster, and seems to have more dynamic range. Other than that, image quality and sharpness are the same. R8 arguably looks better under good lighting conditions.
Sony color is great for white skin making it turn to brown which is not natural. Canon is best natural color for skin.
I just don't like the look of the r8. I saw videos saying it was basically the same as the r6. Lol yea right, I don't like it though. Id rather have the m50 or the rp then the r8 from what I have seen
Comparison unusable, the edges are important to see whobble
Zve1 smokes r8
I returned my Zve1 and got the R8 mainly because of the skin tones, sony skin tones are freaking ugly, I mainly shoot family stuff and getting the R8 for half of the price was a wise decision.
@@ale_filmmaker3513If you shoot in standard color yes canin is better, but if you shoot in log zv-e1 is way better (more dynamic range, more flexibility to have better color and skin tone)