What Is The Overwatch GOATS Comp? | Behind The Akshon
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What is a GOATS composition, why does it work and what you can counter this strategy are questions we will be answering in this edition of Behind The Akshon.
We take a deep dive into the infamous Overwatch GOATS strategy that has risen in popularity through the lens of professional play and arm you with the knowledge to make use it of yourself or how to react properly when facing such a tactic.
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GOATS comp has evolved! Check out our follow video on this strategy known as SNOATS that is being used by the pros currently in the Overwatch League: ruclips.net/video/KfyVWwUue-Y/видео.html
@Ishir Mehra in pro play a roadhog is just free ult charge against most comps, goats included
In my opinion a big counter to good would be a sneaky bastion elimanating the main tank and supports and then let the rest of the move in
@@sondjysondjy1611 Pro teams work around that. It would only work once and on gold teams
the Thumbnail looks like a rabbit on a wheelchair tho
"Roar firestrikes a tree, and the fight begins."
I had to stop the video I was laughing so hard 🤣
This almost got me choking on my food.
lmfao
I died at these scene.
I lost my shit and had to take a good few minutes to compose myself when I heard that.
Shout out to GOATS being so powerful that they nerfed the game to get rid of it
ikr
@@Ishidres Pretty much. Before role Q it was either GOATS or 4 dps, and when the former started to become extremely popular and a lot of people complained, Blizzard decided to do Role Q. To balance out the either GOATs or 4DPS meta. It was highly controversial. Now I think everyone is enjoying Role Q. But I agree on both sides: Goats was cancer. It is truly a brain dead, charge in with low risk comp. Too much health and too much dmg with literally undying tanks due to 3 healers. Rein's melee does a shit ton of dmg, but with GOATS having Rein literally not die, Rein could just charge in at any time with a zarya bubble and start hammering anything and everything, while getting constantly fully healed.
But at the same time, teams who were coordinated and rank 4 dps comp, was truly op was well. So it was either 4 dps or GOAT. Role Q fixed that. No more GOATs, no more 4DPS comps, just a balanced 2-2-2.
@@IshidresYou're welcome, hope it made some sense with my broken english lol.
The most perfect composition ever. No other comp comes close to this.
Ishidres damnnn you just got overwatch
Roar firestrikes a tree and bumper charges away from his team.
Best Reinhardts Ever.
Tbh, they actually are/were one of the best Reins
@@8lynx817 Roar? One of the best? Top 3 at the time was arguably Super, Bumper, and Mano (no specific order). Top 5 would add Marve1 and Pokpo (some people may say Oge when he's performing well).
D0nutG0d HE FIRESTIKED A FUCKING TREE
yes
I'm a low/mid gold rien and that is something that I would likely do
But everything changed when 2-2-2 attacked...
Starlord_007 *now cries in op genji*
Is this a avatar reference??
Arashi now cries in nerfed genji
@moonage open queue Uber alles
@Martin Double shield and bunker manically laughing
Fire striking the tree is KEY to victory on Illios.
3:10 "a few seconds before initiation, Roar firestrikes a tree and the fight begins" lmao why you gotta do him dirty like that
Pulsjax Roar does this often. I feel like it was intentional or a misconception
RoleQueue : Hi Nice to meet ya
GOATS : *Shivers in Fear*
Goats: I fear no man, but that thing
Role queue: >:)
Goats: it's scares me
@@methodOW It scares me*. You did the meme wrong
Oh damn my bad
Johnny im from the future. They just removed role que only for t500
IlluminationdreamsX omg 😱 thx
The goats team created a comp so strong blizzard changed how EVERYONE plays the game and made overwatch 2 have only 1 tank
unlesss ur in open queue in comp then u can get all the 5 tanks
@@alternateidentity-ii9lxexcept bastion has more health than half the tanks lol
1 tank is for 2 shields (rein, orisa, sigma) and bunker comp
3:09 “Roar fire strikes a tree” 😂
Hahahaha that bit got me as well, he made it sound like that was part of the plan, a key to GOATS v GOATS play
sounds like a ritual to begin fights in overwatch 😂😂😂
Don’t you see what they are doing? The Korean meta has evolved past getting the most value out of their abilities and has shifted towards complete mind games. This wasn’t a wasted fire strike, it was a window into the minds of the other team, establishing control over the other team on the first push is groundbreaking. If this was a misplay, then it was an intentional misplay. This is Korea we’re talking about! They’re using the awareness and gamesense of the other team against them. You thought this was a misplay, this is goats vs goats at the top level. This fire strike into a tree was probably the single most important play in this entire game. Mind games like these are not to be underestimated.
@icety lol thats how you know its on!
fuckkkkkkk, these niggas out there playing 3d chess while the rest of us are still playing checkers!
"Roar fire strikes a tree" made my day.
Same. Literally LOL'd
Dude that was their war cry
me irl
Greenpeace triggered.
Haha so funny STFU
The greats GOATS counter
ROLE LOCK
What did that tree do to deserve a military scale fire blast?
Boi that was a korean intimidation strat,like t-posing in the US/UK
*That one tree has committed several war crimes against humanity in the spam of 4 years*
How everyone charges at 2:10 looks like the marvel comic cover xD
xDdd
LOL
THATS THE SECRET
Yeh, good music and slow mo.....
YESS i thought the exact same thing. The background music added to that.
Its so cool to see how such a small team made history and sealed their name in overwatch's history forever
The commentary and background music made me feel like I'm watching a national geographic documentary
I'm kinda convinced, that they only reworked Torb in the way they did, to counter Goats because it is currently messing up the comp scene so bad!
well this aged well
@@timmtimm9729 true
@@timmtimm9729 Torb counters this comp?
@@ca9drop no I was saying that sarcasticly because in hindsight this comp needed to get banned and torb didn't help at all
All the time I thought it is called goats because it is effective when you run forward and hit someone like... Well, a goat
I thought it was goats because it takes the IQ of a goat to pull off
goats = go all tanks & support
Tim Hil
I thought goats meant “go to” like a go to team comp?
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@@BraveCat9927 You just pretty much admitted that a Goat has a higher IQ than you. Congrats.
3:08 "Fire strikes a tree" LOL
3:09
I don’t get it I wanna laugh explain
@@bkezou4370 Roar firestrikes a tree
im done
#FuckGoats
Wait, that doesn't sound right.
Baaaah
#RemoveGoats
Here you go
Some Dude With a Scarf arab niggas be like
Yay Kanna!
@@tuckkamui9962 Yay Yay!
"will goats dominate season 2 owl"
me: well, its complicated
theres sombra and shit, there is a hell of alot going on right now
I don’t follow pro overwatch that much.
I thought GOATS stood for Greatest Of All Team Strats.
Learned something today.
It does, they named their team and this strategy because of its meaning.
Oh that makes more sensel I always presumed it was GO all tanks + supports xD
Yo pierre you wanna come out here?
Origins in new York I Milly rock
xQc clip Go all tanks & supports
Perfect, that's all my team has to do to counter it? I'll just communicate and use teamwork in ladder to effectively beat this comp said no one ever
Play doomfist and cc the main tank out of postiion so your team can kill it
Also an anit-heal from Ana's grenade when the fight heats up really swings things in your favor.
that guy yah goodluck finding a RANDOM team (not friends) to play with that
a- actually speak english (eu servers mostly)
b- have a mic
c- plays a hero that best fits the comp
Instead of picking their go-to (every Hanzo ever)
and lastly
d- focuses the Dps/Healers
Hanzo is actually good against GOATS though :thinking:
Ironically, the way to beat them is also a current meta. Stun meta. Essentially, high displacement and/or high stun heroes such as Brigitte, Lucio, Pharah, etc, can knock their charge out of position.
Another well known military tactic is to merely move around them. Scorpion tactics were implemented purely to counter this strategy. As strong set of flankers with a flanker tank (I.e. D.va, Lucio/Mercy, Reaper/a select few other flanks) would allow the main side of team being charged to just scatter, meaning that on offence the GOATS team is now off the point and you are on it.
Moira is often swapped out for zen, so range isn’t a problem for goats anymore
then the issue becomes sustain, three off healers weren't enough for fat hp heroes like rein and dva
Watafu But it was???
It was more than enough with defense matrix and rein shield plus brig can have huge heals when everyone is grouped up
It still is an issue, it puts a lot of pressure onto zen to hit those long range shots.
Dragonslayer24c Goats has been outdated for a while now since the nerfed Brigitte into the ground, I don’t know why you’re replying to this now
"Do you think it will be used in season 2 of the Overwatch League?"
sigh
LOOOL
new york stage three playoffs PepeHands
2-2-2 saved us
@@hannesbaum9318 No. It didn't.
@@hannesbaum9318 blizzard panicked and 2-2-2 was formed. They didn't really have a response towards Goats comp. They made new heroes, did nothing. Nerfed heroes, did nothing, buffed dps, did nothing. 2-2-2, stopped goats comp.
Roar fire strikes the tree for good luck
luck doesnt do shit to goats either
3:10
I love how he said that like it was planned and part of the strategy
2:26 That's a lot of damage!
If u listen him he has 0 gamesense
@@racmanov and you have zero grammar skills
@@brandiwilson1269 so cute
@@racmanov I’m not wrong
Interesting that you mention that GOATS team is fading into obscurity, but 3 of their players are very successful OWL players. Reiner(Sit) just led Glads to their second stage title, Coluge with SFS have an unbeaten normal season record so far and Gator led his team to the grand finals last season. It's cool to see how far they have come since T3 Overwatch.
Well at the time, the players were fading into obscurity. Since the video was made a few months after their historic 3-0 vs NRG in the BEAT Invitational. However you are right, it is great to see how all three tank players were thriving, except right now, Reiner is in bad health, I really hope he can get better.
My guy u commented almost 6 years later lol ofc it's gonna be different
'Roar fire-strikes a tree, and the fight begins'.
Just gonna point out that Roar actually kept fire-striking walls and objects throughout the 7 game series(KDP vs Runaway Korean Contenders Season 2 Finals). Don't know what's his obsession with it man.
Edit: Might be Bumper instead, couldn't remember which Rein, but 1 of the Reins kept fire-striking objects.
It's an intimidation tactic, to show dominance.
Yeah it's like slapping your knees before a fight
ITS THOSE KOREAN MIND GAMES MAN
hes just bad with firestrikes
Generally speaking it's not a bad idea to miss a firestrike on purpose against Zarya. Firestrike is pretty much free charge for Zarya since it's super easy for her to react too. Pretending like you are going to fire strike makes her waste bubble and as a result nets her ZERO energy.
3:10 “Roar firestrikes a tree”
Best part of the whole video
Watched this even though it’s not possible anymore
Yeah rip four hero types
Competitive open q: hi there
At first, Goats comp was thought to be a niche pick that could not really compete against the current meta of its time.
How little we knew...
I hate goats because no one knows how to run it right but always demand you do it
Dani G don’t know what rank you in but it’s only effective because everyone knows how to play it. It’s the most brain dead shit ever.
You mean like every comp?
Yeah, my biggest issue with OW players are the ones that give up pre-game because you picked X.
@@Milek5250 i ran goats with 5 other friends, tbh u just need decent communication, I just say GO! then zarya bubbles me and their rein just melts
There is only one way to play goats wrong and that is to be timid. If you have even one CoD player on your team that is use to hit and run strategy then you are screwed. This style is 100% go ham. You live you win you die you loose.
7:53 hello I'm from the future, season 2 was dominated by goats, but thank god we have rolelock now, so goats isn't playable anymore and we can all be happy about 2-2-2. Season 3 introduced us with hero bans which make the game more interesting, cheers out
Dragodan but 99% of the time it's orisa mei, rip
@@antons1809 true that, but I like it
The story of how 6 guys single handedly killed a game
The way London countered Philadelphia at 6:45 was beautifully done! I dont know how you can proceed this perfectly! The timing of everything when half of the team came out of spawn so they could beat them together. But the play from Gesture and Nus was the best moment. So smart!
So it’s like Blitzkrieg except overwatch?
Miquiztetl 45 Hitler best rien na
Blitzkrieg is dive
@@michaelasnicar6684 blitzkrieg was to overwhelm the enemy, more similar to goats than dive. Dive focuses on focusing down vulnerable unsuspecting targets to secure at least a 5v6 which is always a more favourable matchup
That was really exciting! thank you for the explanation behind the concept that did not know, and additionally the cool format to do it in with epic music that made my heart pound with your commentary.
goats is what killed ow1. even after they implemented role queue the damage had already been done. people dont understand how actually overpowered goats was at the time, it shifted the meta overnight pretty much. if you weren't running goats, the other team was going to and they were gonna win. i remember times where before the match started, both teams would agree to not play goats just so that they could play something else and have a little fun. this went on for almost 2 years and the game had only been out for about 2 years at this point so by the time role queue was put in, goats had been meta for 2 out of the 4 years that overwatch had been a game. every hero that couldnt be fit anywhere in a goats comp saw little to no play at all, you wanted to play dps? nope you have to play tank or support and only some tanks and supports. and you have to remember that before goats was the mercy meta where there were 12 players on each team because she would mass rez every 30 seconds.
ow2 seems to be going a lot better in the regard of every character feeling somewhat balanced, some are of course a little stronger but thats just how games are but i cant stop feeling like some owl team is gonna find a broken comp and its gonna be meta for the next few years before blizzard fixes it.
And the double shield meta that came after was just as awful,im glad OW 2 has been more fun in general
2:04 always gave me chills when that clip comes up... you can just SEE them rushing towards Envision... my god
Goats was so fun honestly
Especially when you were a flex and could play other roles
Loved watching it
Hope there will be more vids like this; analysing and showing the mechanics behind a comp is an awesome thing to watch
This guy is good! Between the explanations and the music in the background I was really hyped and focus seeing the video. Need to check your other content. 👍🏻
First there was triple tank, then slambulance, now goats. The tank meta has been evolving
we will shatter the earth.
Whats next?!
5 healers 1 tank?
2 tanks 4 healers?
The world does not know yet... Only time will tell...
5 dps 1 healer? Mei, Bastion, Soldier, Sombra, Reaper, Brigitte?
(the reason i thought this might be good is because they all are able to heal :3)
lelbot1000, I guess it will work as a surprise comp but not for long I guess
Cherry Azul , quad tank with rein, zarya, dva, roadhog, Moira and lucio
next comp will be 4 heals and 2 tanks or 1 tank 3 dps and 2 heals. Heck it can also be quad dps and 2 heals. Tanks are fcked in every patch and dpses gain while heal is still way to powerfull.
7:54 well we know how that turned out....
The narration and background music was thrilling and well done. Thanks dude! Great work!
love the analytical videos like this, great job as always
your videos are unbelievably high quality man
I love how this is described like a nature documentary
gotta say i LOVE your content, it's super healthy for the community and it has helped me grow alot as a player, keep it up man.
That was an awesome video. Really excited to see more of this content. Too bad countering options were barely mentioned, I think that would have been a very interesting topic. GOATS really brings into question Overwatch composition and teamwork theory. Maybe for another video.
”Roar firestrikes a tree, and the fight begins”
😂😂dead
Actually played goat for the first time today even before watching this as a joke in ranked and it worked pretty well. And its hella fun to play too imo
Kinda boring to watch tho
And not fun to play agaisnt
I am loving the editing and work that goes into these videos. I feel like I'm watching a documentary-like show. :3
3:09 I'm pretty high and I've been laughing for a few minutes at how seamlessly you said that he fire striked the tree XD
The GOATS strategy has taken a big hit as of the latest patch to the Overwatch PTR: ruclips.net/video/bD2ifVchesI/видео.html
oh shit really
Akshon Esports Overwatch where could I get the image of the Goats wheelchair meme u used in the thumbnail. I would like to see the full
image. It made me laugh
How to counter it? Get a reaper
Clearly no-one told that to the Overwatch League...
Akshon Esports Overwatch yeah “big hit” reaper is still useless and has a 0% pick rate
That armor nerf hit orisa the worst way (an already bad tank made worse) and guess what? It’s still used in almost 50% of games in current OWL
So yeah goats is here to stay and knowing blizzard’s incompetence it’s gonna be here for a while
how it works : just press w lol
why it works: brig‘s broken
how to counter it : u dont
How to counter it: In theory, you take advantage of what goat lacks aka lack of map control, mobility and ineffective at mid to long range. Execution on the otherhand tho...
brig isnt broken sorry to tell ya
@@benfellers3765 nah, people always try to make it seems worse than it actually is
@@websites377 statistics don't lie. Brig is OP
@@fierrect6089 the statistics of people bitching and complaining? the best comp in the game rn isnt even goats, its a sombra dive comp. Winston, Dva, Sombra, Doomfist, Ana, Lucio. Both sombra and doomfist are great against brig. if you go on overbuff she isnt #1 in anything (on weekly setting), and in gm setting on weekly she isnt even top 6 in anything (besides tie rate but that stat doesnt mean much of anything).
You are genuinely amazing at narration!
Awesome video, so incredibly detailed and well-presented!
Teams: realize that Zen provides plenty enough healing with three supports and now they have Discord Orb and some range
Meta: stays the same for 8 months
well some comps like 3 dps or even 4 dps deal too much damage for 3 off healers to heal up, so on rare occasions zen would have been swapped for moira
Love this series ! :D
the video was very well edited. good job
you're commentary and editing are really good, great video!
I freaking love this comp to bits! (makes sense bc I main Rein and Zarya) I always get healz and I can play very up close and personal, AND Strike fear into the hearts on my enemies!
you mean strike with fire into a tree
Good ol' GOATS, with OW2's PvP planned to become 5v5 with 1-2-2 comp, it really hits different after all these years.
learn much from this, clear and easy to understand, thanks for the great vid.
Great video I don’t know why but really enjoy how I break it down have watched it like 3 times already great vid👍🏿
“Especially if the three squishy supports don’t have something to hide behind.”
Brigitte: *laughs in barrier*
Laughs in brigette with 200 health and a 250 health barrier
Bob Wa, Precisely
*Nerf GOATS*
@@archie8796 yeppp
Bbq chicken kevvboi
wait a minute
As Goats has returned due to the open queue comp, I’ve see some interesting variations to the meta, people are picking more ana than Moira in diamond, I consider this effective since not only it provides distancing heal, but the nade amplifies the healing of brig and Lucio. Other variations I’ve seen is ball instead of dva, which seems great for disruption
Dude, your videos are amazing. Such high production value. Keep up the work
Thanks for the support!
A team comp where I can play my two favorite heroes ( Reinhardt & Zarya ) the fights are intense agressive and close quarter-ish? SIGN ME UP!
Goats will always be liable until A. A way to counter it arises B. New torb (maybe) C. The new hero at BlizzCon counters goats. These are just my thoughts take it with a grain of salt.
Goats will be viable until Brigitte will generate broken amount of armor in her ult.
Antonio Groothuis There is already a multitude of counters
Matthew Ambrose The armor she generates isn’t broken, she is kinda balanced.
NergoKnife Gaming, this ain’t it chief. No, she is broken, and that’s a fact. And yes, Pros do have problems With her too.
brig aint balanced.
Excellent video, thanks for explaining GOATS comp to me. Im coming back to OW after almost a year and was so confused with what GOATS is.
Thanks for the explainer. I stopped playing 1 early and while I knew what the goats comp was, I didn't really know the nuance. Now I'm playing OW2 and it's fun =]
This was the best overwatch ever was.
No it wasn't lol. Literally said its braindead. Game changed for a reason. That comp was boring af.
@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 One of the few metas not plagued with snipers.
it killed the game it was trash@@quickdemize
@@danchild9295 it wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea. But it had the most fun gameplay experience imo. Way more strategy and cooldown management, a lot less clicking on pixels.
most fun gamepley experince cap@@quickdemize
Role queues: I have the power to slay any goats in my path
the way you analyzed that entire situation is crazy +1 sub
2:18 Gator, Crimzo, fire, McGravy. Nuts.
This whole time i thought goats stood for GO After The Supports.
"do you think it will be used in season 2 of the overwatch league?" they don't know pepelaugh
This was a very nice video! I actually learned something, thank you 😊
This is a really good video. Nice work on the editing!
Thanks!
Shout out to GOATS to cause Overwatch to role queue and 5 player teams
5 player is just better then 6, since 2 tanks had issues (for example double shield) that 1 doesn't
2 tanks is way better cause now the dps barely get heals it is just tank getting pocketed 2 tanks was way better@@trials_of_death3680
Roar fire strikes a tree and the fight begins
this video helped me a lot! Thanks!
I've been doing a lot of goat since I am a zarya main and the rest of the team just kind of pick the right characters and I love it.
It's been almost a year since the death of goats
😔
F
Its back now! (At least in comp)
I’ve done goats once, won the game.(It was in silver comp)
what a fantastic video! subbed:)
I didn't play the game during the GOATS phase, just arround realease and recently picked it up again and told my friends about it, we had so much fun XD
Finally, some love for GOATS comp.
@@xeri4697 fuck dive honestly
I thought the game was bad enough and then I got this in my recommended and now I see it's still broken af
Tbh if people havent got the common sense to learn how to play against a goat comp in skirms then they deserved to be steamrolled by it, you cant really complain about people using a strat if it works out for them, not matter how strong it might be.
@@wrathfulgaming3373 dive is fun.. Goats is the same shit over and over again.
@@aetherwarrior4640 So is dive
“Roar fire-strikes a tree and the battle begins”
I always start my team fights by firestriking a tree
Awesome video!! Very well done. I learned a lot here today :)
That battle at the end was *really epic*
I'm watching this video now in season 2 and the last question he asked was will this comp be used in season 2🙈😂😂
*And thus, everyone forgets about dive*
Wow the production of this video is off the charts
This is good breakdown for overwatch and I like it. Imma sub