These are the Videos that I absolutely love, please keep doing comparison Vids. If you could do some videos on Lipo batterie comparisons that would be amazing. You’re killing it on RUclips man. Thank you for the great content!
I’m running proline swampers with predator compound with the dual stage foams on my Gen8 AXE. They hook up really well if you pair them on some SSD alloy bed locks. Thanks for review!
I'm in SoCal, the high desert to be exact. We had some snow up here twice since Thanksgiving. Got my AXE couple weeks ago and the stock foams when soft were awesome. Rock hard when cold and unusable in snow and ice. Truck was just spinning in its place and getting stuck. Not to mention, flat spotted. Swapped out to Proline 2 stage and the difference was night and day. My AXE is a beast and went everywhere in all conditions. The stock rubber is more than capable in my case.
Great video. I like the way you think about your content. I’m running G8 Krawlers on my Capra and G8 Hyrax on my TRX-4. I hadn’t really thought about doing a shootout using one of my rigs to see the difference for myself. I am thinking about a pair of Predator Krawlers up front on the Capra keeping my G8s on the rear.
Awesome video just like the full size world in Peterson’s 4wheel and off-road Ultimate Adventure those krawlers pulled a lot of people across the country through some crazy trails ! Thanks for sharing RC Crawling! See you in 2020 !! 👍👍
Crawler Innovation little Nova's I run them in all my rigs me personally I have about a 8 to 9 ish weight on most my trucks and I run medium in the front and Firm in the rear and absolutely love the Foams with The Predator compound like you were saying running the Predator compound whether it be km3s krawler ta or hyrax tires stock foam doesn't do the tire Justice great videos !!! Thanks
I chose the crawlers on rc4wd stamped steel wheels n stock foams for my trx4. I’m always impressed with the performance of both tires n the rig, it’s tough to chase after the thing when you do get it upside down.
What at first sold me on the Krawlers was the fact that I've seen a lot of 1:1 rock bouncers with that tire on it. I too like them more so than the Hyrax. The only bad thing about this video was that Scout body hanging up on various parts or the course.
Great vid, I think you would get better performance with: CI 4.75 lil nova comp cut foams. Soft outer in front wheels/Med outer in rear wheels. Install one CI Tuning disc in each tire on exterior facing side of the wheel. The tuning disc will stop that tire fold you are getting, especially on the rear wheels when you are hitting those inclines. Also vent tires.
Love the sound of them babies trying to hook up, never ran a good tire a day in my life. I spend thousands of dollars on RC stuff and have never bought a killer set of tires. Gonna have to do it at some point
I really wanna say it’s how the tire tread is on the tire it’s makes the hyrax alittle more stiffer because of the smaller lugs but more of them and then the krawlers are softer because of the bigger lug. That’s my take on that. I’ve ran the axial krawlers they were good. But I just upgraded to the predator Krawlers still using stock foams. Might change that soon.
Nope, not just the foams. Extensively I have tested and modified 5 sets of the Interco's, my opinion is that the casing is too thin or too soft of rubber compound. This allows the larger lugs to fold over/push into the shoulders, while the inner lugs tend to get compressed together and just forms a larger lug which gets depressed into the centerline. Cutting, siping, and using products to soften the rubber seems to compound the issue. All the sets were about to be tossed out into the trash bin by my group and myself, so no real money wasted before they finally ended up in the bin. I am not saying that the tires and foams, combination thereof are worthless however. Area and driving style they may be perfect for many.... just not for what I and my group are running on, which is steep, loose, dusty trails with fairly smooth rock obstacles. The Proline Krawlers in either compound have become my favorite, they work quite well, while looking the part and not at risk in a SORCCA event. Haven't heard of anyone not being able to compete with Hyrax.. but considering the tires that have already been banned and the rule itself... I'm looking forward to trying out the JConcepts Landmines 1.9" And trim the rear panel and push the bumper in some.
Isn't it great to have options?! I've noticed with not testing but many years going to the same spot to crawl that round treat(round as in when your viewing the tire from the front)like a Rock-Beast or Krawler works better than a flat design like a Flat-Iron or Hyrax on most surfaces...that's everything else being the same.
Deepwoods are amazing in sand, mud and snow but on rocks there's definitely better options. Other than paddles they might be the best on the beach tbh.
The Flat Irons are good in G8 compound, however I feel the Krawlers in G8 and especially the Predator compounds would easily get the win. but since I have both I may have to give that a try.
Made a Noob mistake and ordered some Hyrax g8 1.9 class 1 (4.19"), and even with the lower clearance they performed much better than the stock tire with the stock Proline foams, I just has to watch my approaches and work the leading tire over obstacles.
I have a set of knockoff Hyrax. Not sure what compund they are. Anyways they are much softer than the stock Redcat Gen 8 tires. however in cold weather the Hyrax are definitely better due to them not being hard as rock when cold.
Exo have you ever tried boom racings tires? they got the hustler and the grappler and they are affordable the one even comes with a two stage foam......im going to have to try these guys....i like some of there wheels and driveshafts.....but these tires might be something....
@@ExocagedRC hahaha, you leave no stone un-turned my man.......have you checked out the running video of west desert wheelers 10.2 power wagon.....i wish i could get to those rocks...they are the best ive seen on youtube!
I'm curious as to why it takes your proline tires so long to hook up. My hyrax tires grip on soft ice soaking wet, I'm not a big fan of venting the Hyrax, equal pressure disbursed over the rock seems to aid the hook up massively, plus I dont look like a dummy draining water out of vented tires when there isnt a single 1:1 running "vented tires" on their vehicle.
1:1 can actually lower their air pressure which ALL OF THEM DO to gain more tire contact on the ground.. Vented tires are simulating under-inflated tires which is the norm in 99% of off road.. Unvented tires simulate full pressure tires which is what off road vehicles use while on road so. Vented tires = OFF ROAD/CRAWLING Un-vented tires = ON ROAD/TRAIL. "I dont look like a dummy draining water out of vented tires" you will look like a dummy using vented tires in WATER at all.. People running vented tires should never go into water for pretty damn obvious reasons.
Well it's a shame you or any of the guys that do it believe its accurate simulation. There is about 3 psi in my tires as they sit with the stock foam creating the pressure. There is absolutely no reason to vent these tires. I have videos of them non vented wrapping around the corners of boulders almost touching the bead lock. I've tried both ways and the venting is just for nerds and newbs that have convinced themselves it helps. I'll do you one better. If your ever in northern colorado you can put your rig up against mine any time and your vehicle with holes in its wheels can be seen limping away.
I mean its like YOUR opinion and that its fine and all.. There are many ways you can screw up a tune with vented tires; Incorrect rig weight, Incorrect foam hardness, Incorrect foam stages, Incorrect tire material, Driving on water, etc.. Unvented tires are pretty hard to mess up and will overcome a lousy tire tune pretty easily.
It’s cool bro, I don’t need to twist your arm to take free cool shit but it’s fine bro. I have 5 gen8’s and can put them on one of them. Just don’t like making all my rc’s the same but so capable why not! Keep crawling bro and I get ya now
Absolutely the best tire is the crawler. I’ve spent money and tested them on lots of different trucks. You put crawlers on a GEN eight. And hyrax on a TRX four and I guarantee you the cheaper Gen eight will win
These didn’t provide anything you need to create more controlled test then just driving around on your rocks... set angled climbs slowly increased set side hills with slow incremental increases and use the throttle trip level to move across the surface not your finger
These are the Videos that I absolutely love, please keep doing comparison Vids. If you could do some videos on Lipo batterie comparisons that would be amazing. You’re killing it on RUclips man. Thank you for the great content!
thank you, I have done lipo tests with an ESR meter. No battery is above 30c no matter what the sticker says
Good to hear! I love my Krawlers. I need to join this channel later today as well. I love tire reviews, new and old.
I’m running proline swampers with predator compound with the dual stage foams on my Gen8 AXE. They hook up really well if you pair them on some SSD alloy bed locks. Thanks for review!
I'm in SoCal, the high desert to be exact. We had some snow up here twice since Thanksgiving. Got my AXE couple weeks ago and the stock foams when soft were awesome. Rock hard when cold and unusable in snow and ice. Truck was just spinning in its place and getting stuck. Not to mention, flat spotted. Swapped out to Proline 2 stage and the difference was night and day. My AXE is a beast and went everywhere in all conditions. The stock rubber is more than capable in my case.
Great video. I like the way you think about your content. I’m running G8 Krawlers on my Capra and G8 Hyrax on my TRX-4. I hadn’t really thought about doing a shootout using one of my rigs to see the difference for myself. I am thinking about a pair of Predator Krawlers up front on the Capra keeping my G8s on the rear.
Awesome video just like the full size world in Peterson’s 4wheel and off-road Ultimate Adventure those krawlers pulled a lot of people across the country through some crazy trails !
Thanks for sharing RC Crawling! See you in 2020 !! 👍👍
Crawler Innovation little Nova's I run them in all my rigs me personally I have about a 8 to 9 ish weight on most my trucks and I run medium in the front and Firm in the rear and absolutely love the Foams with The Predator compound like you were saying running the Predator compound whether it be km3s krawler ta or hyrax tires stock foam doesn't do the tire Justice great videos !!! Thanks
you can hear them Krawler's trying to bite. great comparison vid.
You can see them flexing more just sitting flat also. Think it is softer foam. Put em on a side hill then you will find there disadvantage.
I chose the crawlers on rc4wd stamped steel wheels n stock foams for my trx4. I’m always impressed with the performance of both tires n the rig, it’s tough to chase after the thing when you do get it upside down.
Im running the krawlers with proline dual stage foam. its a really great combo on this truck.
I used club5 racing dual stage foams made for the vs410 with my stock gen8 tires and they work fantastic! truck is around 10lbs
What at first sold me on the Krawlers was the fact that I've seen a lot of 1:1 rock bouncers with that tire on it. I too like them more so than the Hyrax.
The only bad thing about this video was that Scout body hanging up on various parts or the course.
Great vid, I think you would get better performance with: CI 4.75 lil nova comp cut foams. Soft outer in front wheels/Med outer in rear wheels. Install one CI Tuning disc in each tire on exterior facing side of the wheel. The tuning disc will stop that tire fold you are getting, especially on the rear wheels when you are hitting those inclines. Also vent tires.
Great comparison👍👍
I really like how u managed 2 film the cast of starwars on ther retreat away from every day life👍👍👍
Tommorow it's new year and great proline hyrax
Love the sound of them babies trying to hook up, never ran a good tire a day in my life. I spend thousands of dollars on RC stuff and have never bought a killer set of tires. Gonna have to do it at some point
8:00 minutes in was a nice save bro
Nice comparison! I liked the krawlers but they did look a little softer then I would normally run.
I really wanna say it’s how the tire tread is on the tire it’s makes the hyrax alittle more stiffer because of the smaller lugs but more of them and then the krawlers are softer because of the bigger lug. That’s my take on that. I’ve ran the axial krawlers they were good. But I just upgraded to the predator Krawlers still using stock foams. Might change that soon.
Nope, not just the foams. Extensively I have tested and modified 5 sets of the Interco's, my opinion is that the casing is too thin or too soft of rubber compound. This allows the larger lugs to fold over/push into the shoulders, while the inner lugs tend to get compressed together and just forms a larger lug which gets depressed into the centerline. Cutting, siping, and using products to soften the rubber seems to compound the issue.
All the sets were about to be tossed out into the trash bin by my group and myself, so no real money wasted before they finally ended up in the bin.
I am not saying that the tires and foams, combination thereof are worthless however. Area and driving style they may be perfect for many.... just not for what I and my group are running on, which is steep, loose, dusty trails with fairly smooth rock obstacles.
The Proline Krawlers in either compound have become my favorite, they work quite well, while looking the part and not at risk in a SORCCA event. Haven't heard of anyone not being able to compete with Hyrax.. but considering the tires that have already been banned and the rule itself...
I'm looking forward to trying out the JConcepts Landmines 1.9"
And trim the rear panel and push the bumper in some.
thanks for the videos
I love my krawler ta kx tires they really put shine the hyrax in loose dirt
Great compare !
Isn't it great to have options?!
I've noticed with not testing but many years going to the same spot to crawl that round treat(round as in when your viewing the tire from the front)like a Rock-Beast or Krawler works better than a flat design like a Flat-Iron or Hyrax on most surfaces...that's everything else being the same.
Awesome run my rc brother do you happen to remember around what weight this truck was at the time of the test
wish I had seen this about 2 weeks ago. almost bought the krawlers but went with duratrax deep woods. definitely prefer my hyrax over those.
Deepwoods are amazing in sand, mud and snow but on rocks there's definitely better options. Other than paddles they might be the best on the beach tbh.
Have you had a Chance to test the jconcepts landmine tires? Ive heard they beat the hyrax predators. But i would love to hear your opinion on them.
I don't have them yet but soon I hope
I just put the Kwarlers on my TRX4. Love them!
the G8 or the Predator? hows them in TRX4? i want to buy krawler kx
@@99judzz G8 compound. They are on my TRX4 BRONCO and look and crawl great.
U should try the gmade mt 1904 tires and see how they do against some of the best tires
Can you please do Krawler g8 compound vs Flat Iron XLs?
You put out some great videos. Stuff I can use and some stuff not so much. Just curious do you ever sell of some of your used stuff?
Sometimes I do but for the most part I keep them for future video needs and testing other stuff
I'm a fan of their reviews and their comparisons ... could I make one with proline flat iron xl vs BFG Krawler? greetings from Spain.
The Flat Irons are good in G8 compound, however I feel the Krawlers in G8 and especially the Predator compounds would easily get the win. but since I have both I may have to give that a try.
Loving my Gen 8 and with Dual stage foams and 1.9 (4.73") Hyrax Predators it's almost like cheating compared to stock tires.
Made a Noob mistake and ordered some Hyrax g8 1.9 class 1 (4.19"), and even with the lower clearance they performed much better than the stock tire with the stock Proline foams, I just has to watch my approaches and work the leading tire over obstacles.
Krawlers. My favorite tire.
the G8 or the Predator?
My two favorite tires are the proline KM3 and the Krawler, you should do a shootout on those two!
the G8 or Predator?
I have a set of knockoff Hyrax. Not sure what compund they are. Anyways they are much softer than the stock Redcat Gen 8 tires. however in cold weather the Hyrax are definitely better due to them not being hard as rock when cold.
Club5 Racing has a set of foams specifically for the Gen8 swampers that I've had my eye on for a while. Just more curious than anything.
PR II hmm on eBay?
@@ExocagedRC Sold out on their website right now. Maybe eBay? club5racing.com/dual-stage-foam-for-redcat-gen8-irock-swamper-tire-2/
I have them. They're pretty good actually. Easy to install too for dual stages.
Do you own an enduro sendero? Have any interest in one? Or have you driven one? And thoughts? Thanks buddy
Exo have you ever tried boom racings tires? they got the hustler and the grappler and they are affordable the one even comes with a two stage foam......im going to have to try these guys....i like some of there wheels and driveshafts.....but these tires might be something....
yeah the hustlers do realy good wound here
@@ExocagedRC hahaha, you leave no stone un-turned my man.......have you checked out the running video of west desert wheelers 10.2 power wagon.....i wish i could get to those rocks...they are the best ive seen on youtube!
I'm curious as to why it takes your proline tires so long to hook up. My hyrax tires grip on soft ice soaking wet, I'm not a big fan of venting the Hyrax, equal pressure disbursed over the rock seems to aid the hook up massively, plus I dont look like a dummy draining water out of vented tires when there isnt a single 1:1 running "vented tires" on their vehicle.
1:1 can actually lower their air pressure which ALL OF THEM DO to gain more tire contact on the ground.. Vented tires are simulating under-inflated tires which is the norm in 99% of off road.. Unvented tires simulate full pressure tires which is what off road vehicles use while on road so.
Vented tires = OFF ROAD/CRAWLING
Un-vented tires = ON ROAD/TRAIL.
"I dont look like a dummy draining water out of vented tires" you will look like a dummy using vented tires in WATER at all.. People running vented tires should never go into water for pretty damn obvious reasons.
Well it's a shame you or any of the guys that do it believe its accurate simulation. There is about 3 psi in my tires as they sit with the stock foam creating the pressure. There is absolutely no reason to vent these tires. I have videos of them non vented wrapping around the corners of boulders almost touching the bead lock. I've tried both ways and the venting is just for nerds and newbs that have convinced themselves it helps. I'll do you one better. If your ever in northern colorado you can put your rig up against mine any time and your vehicle with holes in its wheels can be seen limping away.
Ok if you say so then it must be true! Screw anybody else that had different results than you.
I watch youtube... the results aren't different it's a psychological placebo effect.
I mean its like YOUR opinion and that its fine and all..
There are many ways you can screw up a tune with vented tires; Incorrect rig weight, Incorrect foam hardness, Incorrect foam stages, Incorrect tire material, Driving on water, etc.. Unvented tires are pretty hard to mess up and will overcome a lousy tire tune pretty easily.
Great comparision!. Would love to know what weight the Gen8 Axe is..?
Stock so I’d guess 7-8lbs
Did u have any problems mounting those krawlers to your rims? I get my krawlers in Monday I have 2 sets of rims but will need another soon
the g8's seem to bead up fairly well, the predators can be an issue at times.
@@ExocagedRC ok thanks. I got the predators. I'm sure il have an issue I always do
O snap we brothers I have my exo hoodie on 🚗🙂
I think the krawlers performed better and foams in them seemed perfect, great vlog 🍻
The hyrax foams are absolute garbage. I threw them away After the first drive.
I just leave my wheels sealed with the stock foams, It locks up on soft ice. You must me a trash driver.
@@jscott893 Nein.
Did you vent either of those?
Is it 4.2 inch or 4.7 inch?
What wheels are those?
TIA! 😊
Love your vids. But your course might need some development. It’s just to aggressive and jaggy with to many edges. Still. Good stuff!
We do spend a lot of money brother, that’s why I want to send you a set of aluminum axels for you OG gen8 brother
Billy Moore III what do you need from me?
Just keep tearing it up crawling, and I want you to find out the difference it’s going to make having them. It’ll change that gen8’s life bro.
It’s cool bro, I don’t need to twist your arm to take free cool shit but it’s fine bro. I have 5 gen8’s and can put them on one of them. Just don’t like making all my rc’s the same but so capable why not! Keep crawling bro and I get ya now
Billy Moore III I’d put them to use for sure, I would guess the Axe would be the one you want to see them in?
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The most scale looking one is better
Is it me or those bumbers are really annoying
Yep they sure are!
Absolutely the best tire is the crawler. I’ve spent money and tested them on lots of different trucks. You put crawlers on a GEN eight. And hyrax on a TRX four and I guarantee you the cheaper Gen eight will win
I agree, the Krawler has bested the Hyrax over and over off camera and on.
@@ExocagedRC So next to the crawler. what is a good scale tire that performs as good as the krawler?
That body is almost catching to much to really give a true test. Maybe redo this test using your comp rig.
These didn’t provide anything you need to create more controlled test then just driving around on your rocks... set angled climbs slowly increased set side hills with slow incremental increases and use the throttle trip level to move across the surface not your finger