Pro-Line BFG Krawlers are by far my favorite tire. The g8 ones do really well after a couple runs of break-in. Pair them with Dual stage foams, and they are fantastic.
You could hear the Predator grabbing for traction. I remember when Pro-line was handing out the Hyrax in the G8 compound to all the sponsored guys I know. They replaced the TSL's they were running that had the G8 compound. Honestly(as always)...they all went back to the TSL's. Then when the Hyrax came with the Predator a few went back to the Hyrax. I think the Hyrax is just a better tire in the Predator....works better with that tread. You might have something with the temperature thing.
Good suggestions ! Foam must be much soft as possible, but proportional to the total weight ! The more is soft, the better the performance, BUT too much soft make the tire torque too much giving stability issues.
I love my hyrax predator they stick on rocks but they are so soft that with my trx4 that is over 10 pounds, they were cut by the ring arround the border of my metal beadlocks and lost a lug the last time I used them on my truck, there is a big hole in one of them now.
Seriously? I am surprised you hadn't tried the Krawler's in the Predator compound already. I liked the Krawler's in G8, a solid performer, but the Predators are really my favorite, very scale looking without compromise.
The crawler shop recommended the hyrax in g8 for me. I wanted predator compound in I believe krawler tread. The guy said with higher temps the g8 is better and the hyrax is better
I like the idea of using a curved ramp, as opposed to a flat ramp...but, instead of measuring by "inches", wouldn't it be better to measure by angle (ie. degree of incline)? That way, instead of having a tape measure along the side of the ramp, you could/would have degrees marked.
@@ExocagedRC I'm assuming that the ramp you're using has a consistent curve throughout. As such, the angle change would also be consistent throughout the curve. My only other suggestion might be too build a bigger ramp...and one that could lay flat on the ground, so that vehicles entering the ramp are truly entering into it from a 0° (to the ground) angle...thus, the angle changes would be slightly further apart, and easier to notate the exact angle. Pit another way, if the base/height of the current ramp is 2ft, building a ramp with a base/height of 4ft would allow the degree markings to be placed twice as far from each other, which, in turn, would make it easier to read the degree the vehicle is climbing. Obviously, using a flat board is much easier & less costly to "manufacture", and easier to set up. If you've ever watched any of Richie's (Drofto maniacs) videos, that's what he, and several others, do. They'll typically start at something low...like a 40° incline...and then increase by 5° increments, until the tires no longer hold. That being said, I still really like the curved ramp, as people can see exactly where a vehicle (or its tires) starts to slip.
I'm looking into buying some new tires, for current trucks, as well as for a future build from a raw kit... Wondering, if for heavier trucks, or for longer life, I should go with the G8 compound.... don't necessarily need the ULTIMATE of performance...just looking for something maybe better than the kit/rtr tires... Looking at KM3 and Flat Iron XL...but going to look into it some more...
@@ExocagedRC , thanks for the reply... Probably going to order some KM3, as well as Flat Irons, when I order my next kit and the truck for my youngest kiddo's birthday(crawler is better for learning throttle and steering than our 35mph+ racers)... and maybe the Element Grabber just because...lol When I order stuff, I will possibly order some stuff for my middle child's Bomber RTR... her steering flexes bad, so metal steering links...and universals so the axles don't bind up whem turning sharp(they should never put in dogbones, even in an RTR)...rear swaybar, and probably some 2.2 Flat Irons ... Do you have any experience with the Bomber trucks? Thanks again for the content...
Some one told me if you remove the jumper for the fwd / rev on a hobby wing 1060 it will have a descent drag brake (like a hidden third mode of operation) Im not sure if this would work. Is there some way you can test this for me?
I don't know if you will see this but I have a question since you have tried so many motor and ESC combos. I have an Axial Bomber with aluminum panels (not too heavy) and aluminum wheels. I plan on putting an RX4 and ROC412 3100kv with stock gearing. I know I will need a stiff read sway bar but is that combo too much muscle? I don't care about crawling as much as I do rock racing. Thanks if you answer this.
70 to 72 degrees, I wish 28 and less sleet and rain over here right now, I have been trying to find the right tyre combo for my latest build a Kraken RC KV5TT with RCMAX GT50cc engine, but doing it in between the shower's, I like that you test all apect's of the vehicles, as I do with my 5th scale gas, SDT and the UDR not so easy as tyre choice is limited the SDT (Super Baja Rey clone) I have the stock tyres plus the LOSI Baja Rey tyre's as choices these both fit the Vitavon billet alloy beadlock wheels aswell as the stock rim's, the UDR only the stock tyres fit the Vitavon rim's, so when I have worn out the stock tyre's on the stock rim's I will invest in the Pro-Line Hyrax and some CA glue, ugh I hafe glueing tyres one of the reasons I stopped 1/10th racing. I have around ten tyre manufacturer options with only Pro-Line and J Concept's giving me compound choices, it was getting better a few years back but the popularity of 5th gas has waned a bit so not so many manufacturer's got on the bandwagon and have stuck it out, even Pro-Line have stopped producing lexan bodie's, so this part is frustrating, I was hoping a manufacturer was going to make some old school pickup bodies Chevy/Ford stepside 79 Ford yes please. Enough waffling the rain has stopped so here I go again dodging the shower's. Really enjoy your tech testing as they are informative as I am going to bite the bullet on a crawling just not sure what, I like the new Axial truck mainly for the body style, so maybe something a little cheaper and put a stepside body on it to start with to see if I like crawling.
Ik the feeling today its finally decent still under 50 , yea me2 im going buikd my 5t soon tired rovan 36cc motor its not bad but harder than should be to tune and get started some times tbh ive been running 2stks 32:1 and think this 25 1 too much and treated motor like its a race motor only leaves you hear where i am oil spiting out chinneese manifold fouking plugs reminds me i forgot puc up comp test from hf but anyway rcmax great lik too much but think going get a obrian motor for sure . Between that sending the arrmas tired of broken rcs so yes crawling pretty cool you like it i just bought my 1st one gen8 i love it i didnt think id enjoy going slow but very realistic as you enjoy exocage yt you in England huh rc max rain all time lol
@@paulclancy2404 Yep the not so sunny UK it is winter here already, I run 25-1 in all eight of my gas all but the RCMAX I was using VP pre-mixed two stroke fuel's but it is hard to get over here so when I see it I buy it in bulk, but RCMAX recomend Putoline RS 259 oil so using that with 98 octane petrol.
@@Nickwillfixit nice those motors are beast , maybe tax return be good excuse to get one . yea we have track day hobbies they pretty good w stocking the vp premixes i been trying stay away from the noise but building something fast and loud this winter.
@@paulclancy2404 I have two electric truck's I can hoon about in the neighbourhood without getting moaned at, I have the UDR with just about every useful mod and some bling, and a LOSI Super Baja Rey clone with again useful and some bling parts, but IMHO is a lot better and is 8S out the box also look's better and all the SBR & SRR option's fit. I have 6 gas truck's and buggie's all running and another 4 in various states of disrepair or in slow re-build course. I have a rare one that I am trying to renovate but locating parts is getting so hard to find.
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Pro-Line BFG Krawlers are by far my favorite tire. The g8 ones do really well after a couple runs of break-in. Pair them with Dual stage foams, and they are fantastic.
I would say, that the G8´s are better for heavier rigs and and the Predator comp. is better for light trucks!
You could hear the Predator grabbing for traction.
I remember when Pro-line was handing out the Hyrax in the G8 compound to all the sponsored guys I know. They replaced the TSL's they were running that had the G8 compound. Honestly(as always)...they all went back to the TSL's. Then when the Hyrax came with the Predator a few went back to the Hyrax.
I think the Hyrax is just a better tire in the Predator....works better with that tread.
You might have something with the temperature thing.
Thanks for this comparo. I’m a big fan of these BFG Krawlers in the Predator compound.
You could try out predators front G8 rear
Good suggestions !
Foam must be much soft as possible, but proportional to the total weight !
The more is soft, the better the performance, BUT too much soft make the tire torque too much giving stability issues.
Great video, I love watching your videos! #roadto15k!!!
I’ve been using predator compound for about 4 months. Great tires!
I love my hyrax predator they stick on rocks but they are so soft that with my trx4 that is over 10 pounds, they were cut by the ring arround the border of my metal beadlocks and lost a lug the last time I used them on my truck, there is a big hole in one of them now.
yeah thats the worry with them, so far so good though
@@ExocagedRC I will try the voodoo klr that you have put on your capra next spring, because now we have too much snow to see the rocks ;)
Yeah that is a light rig. Nice tires!
I’m in Puerto Rico and my truck is heavy so I’m going with the G8’s
Seriously? I am surprised you hadn't tried the Krawler's in the Predator compound already. I liked the Krawler's in G8, a solid performer, but the Predators are really my favorite, very scale looking without compromise.
The crawler shop recommended the hyrax in g8 for me. I wanted predator compound in I believe krawler tread. The guy said with higher temps the g8 is better and the hyrax is better
yep
My experience whit hyrax, Predator has better grip they are softer, but G8 last longer becouse they are not that soft🧐
How long did the predator wheels last for you?
@@lilmoe6657 they are still good, but they are not so much used….😎
Now an alien vs predator video 😁
MrVergeetmenietje LoL
I like the idea of using a curved ramp, as opposed to a flat ramp...but, instead of measuring by "inches", wouldn't it be better to measure by angle (ie. degree of incline)? That way, instead of having a tape measure along the side of the ramp, you could/would have degrees marked.
Robb Ryan you have a point on the angle thing. I hadn’t thought of that.
@@ExocagedRC I'm assuming that the ramp you're using has a consistent curve throughout. As such, the angle change would also be consistent throughout the curve. My only other suggestion might be too build a bigger ramp...and one that could lay flat on the ground, so that vehicles entering the ramp are truly entering into it from a 0° (to the ground) angle...thus, the angle changes would be slightly further apart, and easier to notate the exact angle. Pit another way, if the base/height of the current ramp is 2ft, building a ramp with a base/height of 4ft would allow the degree markings to be placed twice as far from each other, which, in turn, would make it easier to read the degree the vehicle is climbing.
Obviously, using a flat board is much easier & less costly to "manufacture", and easier to set up. If you've ever watched any of Richie's (Drofto maniacs) videos, that's what he, and several others, do. They'll typically start at something low...like a 40° incline...and then increase by 5° increments, until the tires no longer hold. That being said, I still really like the curved ramp, as people can see exactly where a vehicle (or its tires) starts to slip.
@@ExocagedRC your ramp is testing the grip of the tires, not so much how steep of an incline you want to climb.
How about testing the Proline Super Swamper tires in G8 and Predator compounds? You may be happier with that tread pattern.
I like swampers so maybe
I to would like to see that test. A battle of the super swampers!!! Test all the variants from Rc4wd and Redcat etc
I like Proline tires...got lots of them
im convinced but im going to try predator in front and G8 in rear.
That was some good driving!
My trx 4 defender is so heavy that I prefer g8 with dual stage proline foams cause the tires don't roll quite as much
yeah with big weight comes stiffer foams and a bit stiffer tire.
Super awesome dude!! 👍👍👍👍👍
Did you use Simple Green to get the oil off the new tires? They feel sticky afterwards! 😎😎
For this test I simply took them right out of the bag and to the wheels and truck.
great info. do you vent your crawler tires?
G8 are my go to tire real good on rocks
I agree atleast untill the outside temps dip to low anything below freezing forget it
Could you do a comparison between the BFG krawlers g8 compound and the Flat iron XLs on the same truck and the same environments please?
I'm looking into buying some new tires, for current trucks, as well as for a future build from a raw kit...
Wondering, if for heavier trucks, or for longer life, I should go with the G8 compound.... don't necessarily need the ULTIMATE of performance...just looking for something maybe better than the kit/rtr tires...
Looking at KM3 and Flat Iron XL...but going to look into it some more...
For what you are wanting yeah the G8 may be the best set.
@@ExocagedRC , thanks for the reply...
Probably going to order some KM3, as well as Flat Irons, when I order my next kit and the truck for my youngest kiddo's birthday(crawler is better for learning throttle and steering than our 35mph+ racers)... and maybe the Element Grabber just because...lol
When I order stuff, I will possibly order some stuff for my middle child's Bomber RTR... her steering flexes bad, so metal steering links...and universals so the axles don't bind up whem turning sharp(they should never put in dogbones, even in an RTR)...rear swaybar, and probably some 2.2 Flat Irons ...
Do you have any experience with the Bomber trucks?
Thanks again for the content...
Nice review and video sir thanks
stephen chun sub trade?
Hey Man! I was wondering if you know a way to add dig to a trx4? maybe a gearbox swap? let me know! Nice videos btw
How would these Krawler T/A tires be in mud and snow? Would the KM3 be better for an all-terrain tire?
Leftenant Malachi I’d have to say they are aggressive enough they should do well. In the mud I’d run the G8’s. I’m the snow I’d say the Predators
Some one told me if you remove the jumper for the fwd / rev on a hobby wing 1060 it will have a descent drag brake (like a hidden third mode of operation) Im not sure if this would work. Is there some way you can test this for me?
yes that's crawler mode, it gives full drag brake when in neutral.
Using stock foams?
How would they do with a heavier rig
Leslie Perkins those videos are on the way.
The Predator compound does great on my 10lb truck. 😊
I don't know if you will see this but I have a question since you have tried so many motor and ESC combos. I have an Axial Bomber with aluminum panels (not too heavy) and aluminum wheels. I plan on putting an RX4 and ROC412 3100kv with stock gearing. I know I will need a stiff read sway bar but is that combo too much muscle? I don't care about crawling as much as I do rock racing. Thanks if you answer this.
You can save money by getting a Castle Mamba X with a Holmes 3500kv motor. You’ll also have a better system than the Tekin. So win/win.
Add weights to the G8
What foams are you using in this video??
can you run the traxxas trx6 on that ramp?
adriano82mk1 I don’t have a TRX6 yet.
Amazing 👍😳
What is the superlite?
Axial SCX10ii
I know the predators are too soft for a truck over a certain weight. My trx4 just folds them over.
70 to 72 degrees, I wish 28 and less sleet and rain over here right now,
I have been trying to find the right tyre combo for my latest build a Kraken RC KV5TT with RCMAX GT50cc engine, but doing it in between the shower's, I like that you test all apect's of the vehicles, as I do with my 5th scale gas, SDT and the UDR not so easy as tyre choice is limited the SDT (Super Baja Rey clone) I have the stock tyres plus the LOSI Baja Rey tyre's as choices these both fit the Vitavon billet alloy beadlock wheels aswell as the stock rim's, the UDR only the stock tyres fit the Vitavon rim's, so when I have worn out the stock tyre's on the stock rim's I will invest in the Pro-Line Hyrax and some CA glue, ugh I hafe glueing tyres one of the reasons I stopped 1/10th racing.
I have around ten tyre manufacturer options with only Pro-Line and J Concept's giving me compound choices, it was getting better a few years back but the popularity of 5th gas has waned a bit so not so many manufacturer's got on the bandwagon and have stuck it out, even Pro-Line have stopped producing lexan bodie's, so this part is frustrating, I was hoping a manufacturer was going to make some old school pickup bodies Chevy/Ford stepside 79 Ford yes please.
Enough waffling the rain has stopped so here I go again dodging the shower's. Really enjoy your tech testing as they are informative as I am going to bite the bullet on a crawling just not sure what, I like the new Axial truck mainly for the body style, so maybe something a little cheaper and put a stepside body on it to start with to see if I like crawling.
Ik the feeling today its finally decent still under 50 , yea me2 im going buikd my 5t soon tired rovan 36cc motor its not bad but harder than should be to tune and get started some times tbh ive been running 2stks 32:1 and think this 25 1 too much and treated motor like its a race motor only leaves you hear where i am oil spiting out chinneese manifold fouking plugs reminds me i forgot puc up comp test from hf but anyway rcmax great lik too much but think going get a obrian motor for sure . Between that sending the arrmas tired of broken rcs so yes crawling pretty cool you like it i just bought my 1st one gen8 i love it i didnt think id enjoy going slow but very realistic as you enjoy exocage yt you in England huh rc max rain all time lol
@@paulclancy2404 Yep the not so sunny UK it is winter here already, I run 25-1 in all eight of my gas all but the RCMAX I was using VP pre-mixed two stroke fuel's but it is hard to get over here so when I see it I buy it in bulk, but RCMAX recomend Putoline RS 259 oil so using that with 98 octane petrol.
@@Nickwillfixit nice those motors are beast , maybe tax return be good excuse to get one . yea we have track day hobbies they pretty good w stocking the vp premixes i been trying stay away from the noise but building something fast and loud this winter.
@@Nickwillfixit living in south shore of a island's same nasty weather brother so ik what you mean
@@paulclancy2404 I have two electric truck's I can hoon about in the neighbourhood without getting moaned at, I have the UDR with just about every useful mod and some bling, and a LOSI Super Baja Rey clone with again useful and some bling parts, but IMHO is a lot better and is 8S out the box also look's better and all the SBR & SRR option's fit.
I have 6 gas truck's and buggie's all running and another 4 in various states of disrepair or in slow re-build course. I have a rare one that I am trying to renovate but locating parts is getting so hard to find.
if you think g8 is good imagine what a g80 could do. forget predator have you tried alien
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