Japanese Mario RPG is VERY Different - Region Break

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @BoundaryBreak
    @BoundaryBreak  Год назад +77

    Users that create an account through the link will get a 10% off coupon on their first order on Buyee. bit.ly/10offBuyee-Shesez

  • @stephaniec6307
    @stephaniec6307 Год назад +628

    It's such a missed opportunity that Culex/Crystaller never showed up in 3D form in a Paper Mario game. Imagine him finally returning to fight his 3D rival after spending years gaining the power to take on a 3D form himself... only to find that now Mario is 2D. It would have been a perfect punchline.
    Edit: Also the 'omoroido' gag is a reference to a marketing slogan that was used in Japan for Metroid 2. "Metroid... omoroido!"

    • @samuelthecamel
      @samuelthecamel Год назад +61

      Something something copyright, something something Square Enix, you get the gist

    • @lejohn_e64
      @lejohn_e64 Год назад +63

      imagine culex does get the "3d" upgrade but its a 3d rendered sprite instead of a full on 3d model

    • @Dlf212
      @Dlf212 Год назад +7

      Well since were getting the remake, if they remade Paper Mario 64 or Thousand Year Door ....

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Год назад +7

      I could see Square possibility giving Culex the Octopath HD2D Treatment and maybe bringing in Sephiroth with a huge exaggerated design like you see with Final Fantasy Bosses, I just want both as Superbosses.

    • @maccamachine
      @maccamachine Год назад +7

      I just hope they keep him in the remake but I feel like they won’t

  • @ItsmeAz
    @ItsmeAz Год назад +293

    Here's a fun fact: at 19:18, the Japanese name ドソキーユング (Dosoki Yung) is actually an intentional misspelling of ドンキーコング (Donkey Kong). Both names use very similar characters that are easily confused.
    Both names for comparison:
    ドソキーユング (Dosoki Yung)
    ドンキーコング (Donkey Kong)

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Год назад +4

      Ok

    • @theggamer83
      @theggamer83 Год назад +46

      Would have been like spelling it as "Dohkey Komq" in English or something like that, but that sounds really weird.

    • @LightsJusticeZ
      @LightsJusticeZ Год назад +43

      @@theggamer83 Konkey Dong

    • @pentagonofpeople
      @pentagonofpeople Год назад +13

      [INTENSE SQUINTING]

    • @SchlossRitter
      @SchlossRitter Год назад +20

      ​@@theggamer83the misspelling joke is essentially retained in English as Guerilla (freedom fighter) is pronounced similarly to Gorilla (a type of ape that DK is).

  • @ExeloMinish
    @ExeloMinish Год назад +299

    About the Guerrilla, the joke in the name is that Donkey Kong is ドンキーコング and "Doskey Yung" is ドソキーユング . It's meant to be a bootleg that looks like the original at first glance

    • @BadCandyStudios
      @BadCandyStudios Год назад +108

      If you think about it, the best way to translate its Japanese name might have unironically been “Dankey Kang”.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi Год назад +32

      Oh that's clever, the kana are similar-looking but different in sound. Like a mistake you'd make at a glance.

    • @delta7890
      @delta7890 Год назад +20

      @@BadCandyStudios Agreed, though I get the impression a lot of the name changes for items, enemies, etc are a result of character/text box limitations.

    • @SchlossRitter
      @SchlossRitter Год назад +14

      They did keep the essence of the misspelling joke though in that guerilla is a freedom fighter while gorilla is an ape with the pronunciations being similar in the English words.

    • @ianswift3521
      @ianswift3521 Год назад +3

      @@BadCandyStudios that's racist. it's mpox now. we don't call kangs monkeys.

  • @nnnnate
    @nnnnate Год назад +359

    Luigi does appear in the game, he leads the parade at the very end. I hate that I know this off the top of my head.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Год назад +35

      Mario & Luigi Vs Sephiroth was a big trending thing earlier this year, but it’s such a pipedream to even expect a playable Luigi and a Sephiroth Superboss that only Mario & Luigi can fight.

    • @RyuuSix
      @RyuuSix Год назад +26

      ​@@brandonwilliams6119I am actually surprised that the remake doesn't have the typical "Plus Added content"
      Something like "Super Mario RPG + Luigi's Side Adventure"
      Then again, this is Square Enix....

    • @Oscar97o
      @Oscar97o Год назад +13

      @@brandonwilliams6119 And Sephiroth doesn't stand a chance because Mario & Luigi have special attacks that can hit an infinite number of times during a single turn as long as you do the correct inputs.

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Год назад +9

      @@RyuuSix
      To be fair the game just got revealed, I think don’t they wanted to show too much so it can allow us to speculate, maybe we’ll see more in the September Direct.

    • @bewearstar9462
      @bewearstar9462 Год назад +3

      He was in a beta screenshot with mario,mallow and npcs in some long dinning room

  • @さゆぬ-x7i
    @さゆぬ-x7i Год назад +186

    Some additional info:
    12:13 The correct password is “すいぞくかん” (aquarium), but the options given for each letters are set up so that you can also spell “かいぞくせん” (pirate ship) which makes more sense in the context. So it’s kind of a trick question: if you only uncover some of the letters up to “○いぞく○ん” and try to guess the rest, you’ll probably get it wrong.
    16:17 Red Yoshi extract (especially with its render) is probably a reference to red mamushi tonic, which is based on traditional Chinese medicine (Kampō). Try googling “赤マムシエキス”.
    17:50 “メトロイド オモロイド” (Metoroido, omoroido; Metroid, it’s fun) is a phrase used in promotions starting from Metroid 2. It’s a silly play on words incorporating the Kansai dialectal form of omoshiroi, omoroi, and the joke is that the phrase is delivered in a very dark, serious manner in promotional materials.

    • @curhob
      @curhob Год назад +2

      In the US version, the 6 boxes are set up in such a way that the word "corals" can also be spelled with these choices instead of pearls, so that's pretty similar too. Also worth noting, "suizokukan" can also be spelled in Kanji not Hiragana. The main reason hiragana was used looks like it was to create something you can spell with a simpler alphabet and with more characters.
      This all shows just how far localization teams have to go to make things consistent across language barriers and especially across scripts, and they NAILED it here. Also those numbers in the different font look a tiny bit more charming than the US. Just 2 save slots though?!

  • @pizzakaden
    @pizzakaden Год назад +55

    the "i'm just a look out" line is used because it uses a "straight" guy answer which is a common comedy type in japan

    • @SamSolomon47
      @SamSolomon47 Год назад +16

      I prefer the deadpan answer over the bazooka line, but no shade to those who feel otherwise! Localization is so interesting.

    • @pizzakaden
      @pizzakaden Год назад +7

      @@SamSolomon47 yeah sometimes it's done well so I can't say localisation is all bad. But series like dragon quest have horrendous localisation. Almost ruins the games

    • @HellbladesFFXI
      @HellbladesFFXI Год назад +22

      ​@@SamSolomon47I think both are pretty funny. A deadpan "I'm just a lookout" is definitely worth a laugh. But I do love the sarcastic "I left my bazooka at home." Literally saying, "I am WAY too under prepared to deal with that guy, the heck do you want from me?" Lol

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN Год назад +4

      As a 10 year old kid that bazooka line was probably the hardest I ever laughed during SMRPG. For the inevitable remake retranslation I hope the keep that line.

    • @PetProjects2011
      @PetProjects2011 Год назад +7

      @@HellbladesFFXI A part of me likes the "I'm just a lookout" line more as it jibes better with his earlier dialogue, how he brags that he doesn't let anything suspicious past him. So his response of "I'm just a lookout" comes across as him basically saying "Bro, that ain't my job."

  • @Alex-95-Gaming
    @Alex-95-Gaming Год назад +106

    Culex joking about how flat he is is something we NEED to see in the remake lol

    • @opo3628
      @opo3628 Год назад +10

      Nah. The English version handled Culex better by playing him seriously.

    • @GameRock06
      @GameRock06 Год назад +1

      I wanna see that joke. I hope we get to fight against a sprite in the remake

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 Год назад +4

      The "2D-HD graphics" style that most modern Square Enix games are known could've been a great opportunity for the SMRPG remake to reference Culex's Japanese dialogue.

    • @ShyGuyXXL
      @ShyGuyXXL Год назад +9

      Wish granted!

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 4 месяца назад

      @@opo3628 But the way he speak so final fantasy-y when talking about his flatness is perfect

  • @Daniel_Coffman
    @Daniel_Coffman Год назад +117

    The likely reason why they didn't bother making renders for Luigi in the manual is because he's "Sir Not Appearing In This Game."

    • @BareBandSubscription
      @BareBandSubscription Год назад +17

      Brave Luigi ran away
      Bravely ran away, away

    • @glennianheroes1383
      @glennianheroes1383 Год назад +5

      whats weird though, is he was planned to be in the game, and was in at least the credits at some point

  • @katiedubs
    @katiedubs Год назад +43

    The Japanese quote for Samus is actually referencing an old commercial for Metroid II, which literally says "METOROIDO, OMOROIDO", a pun meaning "Metroid is fun".

  • @PetProjects2011
    @PetProjects2011 Год назад +37

    11:11 What's even funnier about this part, is if you speak to him earlier in the game (before Mallow is introduced) he brags about how he never lets anything suspicious get by him.

  • @ArctheLadder
    @ArctheLadder Год назад +83

    The Culex bit in Japan is such a good parody of the Final Fantasy games of that era. So Culex is pondering something existential, but it's a video game existentialism of 3D/pre-rendered graphics compared to being 2D.

    • @braidena1633
      @braidena1633 Год назад +2

      The same general schtick is still there (in XVI too): winded preamble with a line like, 'im the beginning and the end', a bad guy from another dimension that serves an even badder guy, thanking protag for besting him, the crystals. The Japanese one is a bit more obvious with its intent tho -- much more flowery language that (my understanding) is the norm for Japanese games, and is generally altered for American audiences

    • @ArctheLadder
      @ArctheLadder Год назад +1

      @@braidena1633 There's a much different feel between the Sakaguchi era and the people he helped train or worked with, or just general predecessors. I think people try to duplicate that kind of waxing philosophical, but the distinction I make is just being right on the nose about your character's name.
      While you may argue that it's about feel, I'm just going to say I identify very specific things, like a complete and utter lack of subtlety in the name, a tinge of irony... NECRON was just literally called something like "Eternal Darkness" in Japanese. Culex is literally CRYSTALLER, 2D and named after something that is evocative of a 3D object.
      We're talking lofty concept or pondering through a very specific set of conventions. It's absolutely indicative of the classic era, it's a kind of anachronism to even say that I'm not talking about a specific era here because the game you even specifically mention didn't even exist yet, is directed by a guy who still tries to approximate certain themes of F I N A L F A N T A S Y 1 and such.
      So it's not to say that present games won't evoke that, it's that at the time this was parody because of how on the nose it is of what Final Fantasy would have been at the time.

  • @dood3530
    @dood3530 Год назад +52

    It'd be cool if, in the remake, Culex obtained a powered-up 3D form, like he alluded to in the original Japanese version.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi Год назад +31

      I HAVE FINALLY LEARNED THE POWER OF THE THIRD DIMENSION. BEHOLD!
      *Crystaller becomes a voxel version of his original sprite, still completely immobile but able to rotate slightly in place*

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane Год назад +5

      I'd prefer him to be flat. But maybe there could be a secret rematch?

    • @dorkfishieSailor
      @dorkfishieSailor Год назад +3

      Imagine if he ended up being in the original game’s art style…

    • @Mordecrox
      @Mordecrox Год назад +2

      "Why do you possess t h i c k n e s s"
      -Culex

    • @PikaPhantomVG
      @PikaPhantomVG Год назад +3

      To justify that, they may have to make Super Mario RPG like Final Fantasy VII Remake, haha - with the remake occurring after the original in another universe or whatever

  • @TsunogaiDanshaku
    @TsunogaiDanshaku Год назад +46

    Guerilla's Japanese name is an excellent visual gag - phonetically it's "dosoki yungu", but the Japanese characters "so" and "yu" look a lot like the ones for "n" and "ko". Switch them out, and you get "donki kongu"! It would be like if the enemy was named something like "Domkey Konq" in English!

    • @ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
      @ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 10 месяцев назад +12

      So does this mean that "Dankey Kang" would actually be a good localisation name then?

    • @TsunogaiDanshaku
      @TsunogaiDanshaku 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 ... Yeah, actually that's perfect XD

  • @TheTheisson
    @TheTheisson Год назад +127

    it would be funny if culex looked like an octopath enemy in the remake

    • @AT7outof10
      @AT7outof10 Год назад +36

      He managed to evolve to HD2D, but still can't wrap his head around the third dimension, perfect.

    • @raidomegnuo2868
      @raidomegnuo2868 Год назад +7

      You're a genious! That would be so clever.

    • @329link
      @329link Год назад +8

      Honestly it would almost make sense to change him from being a final fantasy reference to something else like octopath, since the crystals thing is outdated anyway and FF is considerably more graphically advanced these days. I'd be cool either way personally, but it'd be neat.

    • @emdivine
      @emdivine Год назад +3

      @@329link They could bring it all the way through, and make Culex now a modern Final Fantasy type realistic looking character and have him call Mario's crew sillier looking that Moogles or something

    • @Einar730
      @Einar730 Год назад

      No

  • @AstorEzequiel
    @AstorEzequiel Год назад +33

    15:46
    Hopefully, the English version will expand the dialogue from "Perhaps in another time, another game..." to "We've reached this new age, in another but similar game..." That would be really cool :P

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress Год назад +9

      Reminds me of what they did with the Yoshi doll text in the Link’s Awakening remake.

  • @Riggy2k3
    @Riggy2k3 Год назад +54

    So unbelievably excited for the Super Mario RPG remake. Had no idea it was coming, but paying as much love and tribute to the original in the meanwhile while we wait! Thanks for this video, Shesez!

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Год назад +1

      I hope nintendo doesnt mess everything up as usual

  • @allieginter8438
    @allieginter8438 Год назад +88

    14:07 not only does Culex use the four crystals that were common in older Final Fantasy games, but the fight also directly uses the boss battle theme from Final Fantasy IV!

    • @rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778
      @rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778 Год назад +6

      Culex was in the USA release too tho

    • @allieginter8438
      @allieginter8438 Год назад +16

      @@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778 I never said he wasn't?

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Год назад +5

      _”Mario, You Spoony Plumber You!”_

    • @maccamachine
      @maccamachine Год назад +2

      I hope he’s still in the remake

    • @corronchilejano
      @corronchilejano Год назад +3

      ​@@maccamachinethe gag could be reversed once more since the remake is in 3D and Culex could just show up as a sprite.

  • @StereoTyp0
    @StereoTyp0 Год назад +384

    I personally felt the censorship of the scene where Birdo gets "plunged" was unnecessary.

    • @MIchaelArlowe
      @MIchaelArlowe Год назад +46

      Right in the cloaca.

    • @Stargazing_night_sky
      @Stargazing_night_sky Год назад +64

      Just like literally every other form of censorship, completely unnecessary.

    • @Mephitinae
      @Mephitinae Год назад +22

      P-plunged? Oh dear... Would anyone know if that scene is on youtube?

    • @thegoodmudkip3652
      @thegoodmudkip3652 Год назад +8

      The what-now?

    • @saturos5068
      @saturos5068 Год назад +9

      ​@@Mephitinaeive seen it in e621 (dont look it up)

  • @semi_automatico
    @semi_automatico Год назад +31

    JB standing for Jugemu Bus sounds accurate, but in japan the subway system is called JR (Japan Rail) so there is that, maybe it's a double nod

  • @DJtheEmoPirate
    @DJtheEmoPirate Год назад +3

    I love how Culex in the remix uses a combination of the OG Japanese and English versions of his speech. Keeps his backstory of being a Dark Knight of Vanda, but changes it to talk about Mario and the others being 3D whilst he is 2D. Makes the contrast between his 2D sprite and the 3D models work even better than it did in the orginal

    • @DJtheEmoPirate
      @DJtheEmoPirate Год назад +1

      Extends to his post fight speech too. Keeps the amazement of the 3D world from the Japanese version alongside the respect for Mario from the English version. Love what they did with this remake

  • @shooby9496
    @shooby9496 Год назад +12

    I know it seems completely silly to even care but I envy those colored in-game buttons in the Japanese version.

    • @ericjohnson6634
      @ericjohnson6634 Год назад

      They got those in Europe, too 😓

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN Год назад +1

      Good news: they’re keeping the colored button prompts for the remake, even internationally, despite the Switch having no colored buttons. Makes me wonder if that could be a sign of the Switch 2 having colors…?

  • @Lokear
    @Lokear Год назад +35

    I love that Geno's Japanese real name just casually ends with the Indigo Lantern symbol.

  • @nickblomgren
    @nickblomgren Год назад +21

    There's something super weird to be said that even the secret boss Culex, in the original script was like: Why are you guys all 3D? Referencing the pre-rendered nature of the game.
    _And then the following sequels to this game is literally the Paper Mario series._

  • @enlongjones2394
    @enlongjones2394 Год назад +29

    I sincerely hope that in the remake, Culex is *still* 2-D, with his dialogue shifted to be like the original.
    Specifically, I hope he’s now depicted in the HD-2D style that’s been used for things like Octopath Traveller, Live-A-Live, and certain parts of the FF pixel remasters.

    • @fixedfunshow
      @fixedfunshow Год назад

      I'm sure they'll rewrite the dialogue they can't leave "bazooka" just like that

  • @SorcererLance
    @SorcererLance Год назад +5

    18:00 - from the Metroid Wiki;
    "Metroid... Omoroido!" (メトロイドオモロイド Metoroido Omoroido?) is a recurring tagline for the Metroid series in Japanese media. "Omoroido" is a play on the Japanese word "omoroi" (おもろい?), which means fun or exciting, thus the phrase roughly translates to "Metroid Funroid!".
    So basically Samus is referencing Japanese ads for the Metroid games' tagline. Obviously translating it directly would've gone over all our heads back then.

  • @sciverzero8197
    @sciverzero8197 Год назад +7

    ドソキーユング "Dosokey Yung"
    ドンキーコング "Donkey Kong"
    Its literally the same name but scuffed up a little in that special OC do not steal "legally distinct donkey kong at home" way.

  • @randomnpc445
    @randomnpc445 Год назад +8

    Perhaps the B'tub ring comes from a mistranslation of "raburabu."
    The description makes it clear that it's supposed to be Love Love, but could also be read as "Rub Rub." Like you're rubbing yourself clean in a bathtub. So they named it after a bathtub.

    • @ObeseChess
      @ObeseChess 10 месяцев назад

      I always interpreted it as a much dirtier joke.

  • @agustinhernandezrivas-jp7jk
    @agustinhernandezrivas-jp7jk Год назад +12

    Bowser and Inkling's arm pose.
    In Japan: 😊
    In the rest of the world: 💀
    P.S. 1:12 In the 2023 remake, Peach is no longer referred as "Princess Toadstool" in English.

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN Год назад +1

      The remake swapping for Peach was always a given.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce 9 месяцев назад

      @@AlexRNI find it both funny and frustrating how Nintendo America is adamant about aligning with Japan on THIS name, while they double down on renaming King Koopa and keep making up new names for every other JP character that's rolled through SINCE they stopped calling her Princess Toadstool.

  • @powerpup97
    @powerpup97 Год назад +8

    Jugemu actually makes sense for Lakitu's Japanese name, as the cloud item in Super Mario Bros. 3 is known as Jugem's Cloud.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Год назад

      Kinda dumb that they changed the name for NA at all, especially since it's still a Japanese-sounding word anyway

    • @velvetbutterfly
      @velvetbutterfly Год назад

      @@nthgthi don't think it was changed, I think it was just cutting off a letter to fit in the space limit

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Год назад +1

      @@velvetbutterfly Lakitu and Jugemu have the same amount of letters.. why invent "Lakitu" if he was already Jugemu

  • @fullwindman8380
    @fullwindman8380 Год назад +58

    Surprised you didn't mention that in the Japanese version a lot of the enemy dialogue when you read their minds are actually anime references. An few examples would be how one martial artist themed enemy thinks "you're already dead", and another enemy , who's prone to running mid fight, thinks "I mustn't run away". It makes sense why these were changed when this was originally localized, but I hope most of these are restored in the remake since these references would be better understood now than in 96.

    • @Liggliluff
      @Liggliluff Год назад +9

      Have two English versions; original translation and more accurate translation

    • @shiftingsphere
      @shiftingsphere Год назад +1

      I understood that reference

    • @yellohammer8571
      @yellohammer8571 Год назад +2

      I'd like to think the Japanese writers at Squaresoft were huge fans of Gainax's Neon Genesis Evangelion, hence why so many lines from that show were incorporated in the enemies' psychopath quotes.

    • @fullwindman8380
      @fullwindman8380 Год назад +3

      @@yellohammer8571 I think it's just that one line but they were definitely anime fans, as they put in way more references than the two I mentioned.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@yellohammer8571Eva was actually on TV at the time, and quite popular. They would've been remiss in NOT including it in their big wall o' japanese pop culture references, alongside fellow juggernaut-in-the-making Sailor Moon and... less-important shows like Saint Tail.

  • @VTRcomics
    @VTRcomics Год назад +7

    The "she says" and "Johnny" bits really got me!
    But if there's one thing I'm really hoping for, it's that the remake gives us an best of both worlds kinda script where we have original game text based on however it was localized in various languages, and then a new unified one that mixes any fun jokes and stuff.
    Realizing that Japan missed out on Bruce Lee and we missed out on Doskey Yung is kinda wild.

  • @KirbyIsCute
    @KirbyIsCute Год назад +7

    While I do prefer a faithful translation - I want the bazooka line to still be in the remake.

  • @MarMaxGaming
    @MarMaxGaming Год назад +4

    Fantastic video, jumping right into it and it’s 20 min of quality content

  • @LightsJusticeZ
    @LightsJusticeZ Год назад +2

    For marketing, they should come out with Mallow shaped Marshmallows and have an image on the package saying it's Belome Approved.

  • @FloydianSystem
    @FloydianSystem Год назад +10

    The Japanese version of SMRPG feels like a massive sh*tpost at times. The amount of odd references and goofy lines that didn't really translate all too well (even though Ted Woolsey is an absolute legend.) There's multiple references to Eva in the game as well as Phantom Blood of all things.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Год назад +2

      Super Mario RPG: You can (not) jump

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce 9 месяцев назад

      All sorts of japanese pop culture references. Sailor Moon is in there too.
      (It is worth noting that Evangelion was still new at the time, and was "a wildly popular cartoon on TV", not the big ol' THING it has become now. JoJo had already become a big ol' thing, though.)

  • @anjoliebarrios8906
    @anjoliebarrios8906 Год назад +9

    0:55 it seems like less of a font issue and more of a language difference. Japanese words tend to be fairly short, especially if they're made of kanji. Whereas English words can be 6+ letters long. "Barrel [6] Volcano [7]", for example, wouldn't fit horizontally in the original format (squarish quadrants). The font is different in the English release because it's an RPG and you're gonna be reading text for the whole game. English text-- in the JP release of a game-- is for UI and not much else.

  • @Barveth
    @Barveth Год назад +6

    "I forgot my bazooka at home" - Book of Toad's greatest quotes of all time

  • @baconleaf3339
    @baconleaf3339 Год назад +2

    I like those quick subtle drops like the thabeast721 and the samus “she says” joke with your animated logo popping in for a sec. Lots to love about your videos

  • @AyshaCyan
    @AyshaCyan Год назад +24

    I'm suddenly wondering if "b'tub" is meant to be a weird shorthand of "betrothed" but someone else suggested it could be a heartbeat sound. I can see either being the case

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion Год назад +23

      It’s short for bathtub. As in, we refer to the dirt stain that accumulates in a bathtub as a bathtub ring. The joke is this is a literal ring being called a bathtub ring. Why Woolsey went for such an unrelated joke is a mystery, but it’s clear he was going for the play on words.

    • @BananaFaceDude56
      @BananaFaceDude56 Год назад +11

      @@MistareFusion It's the 'B(ride) To (tu) be (b) ring. Hence why it's in marrymore.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Год назад

      @@MistareFusion Maybe it's because Mario is a plumber? 🤷🏻‍♂ But even that doesn't make sense, as you don't call a plumber to clean a bathtub ring.

    • @LeoSmashRoyale
      @LeoSmashRoyale Год назад

      Its the Bride to Be Ring. Shorthand wasn't the best option here...

    • @the-NightStar
      @the-NightStar Год назад +3

      No, it's "Bathtub Ring".
      Ted Woolsey translated all the item names separately from the text and since he didn't know what it was actually supposed to be, he just replaced it with a dad joke.

  • @davidthecommenter
    @davidthecommenter Год назад +5

    fun fact: luigi actually appears in the end credits, he's the very front of the parade!

  • @cville991
    @cville991 Год назад +8

    Bowser doing the bird arm gesture is pretty hilarious. Kinda fits into his personality. 🤣

    • @firestar4407
      @firestar4407 Год назад

      I wonder if they will keep that for the remake.

  • @Kevin-jb2pv
    @Kevin-jb2pv 10 месяцев назад +1

    That gesture Bowser does isn't just offensive in Brazil and wherever. I've always known that gesture to mean "Up yours" in the U.S.

  • @BaldorfBreakdowns
    @BaldorfBreakdowns Год назад +18

    I appreciate Shesez being family friendly. Which makes it all the weirder when I see him on unhinged Vinesauce streams.

  • @LostSoulSilver
    @LostSoulSilver Год назад +2

    Culex in Japan: 2D joke
    Culex in USA: The Legendary and Mysterious Crossover Event of Super Mario and Final Fantasy
    Guess which one I like better

  • @PastaMaster115
    @PastaMaster115 Год назад +4

    I love how the beginning animation used the 3D models from the old promotional art for the game. Such a wonderful callback.

  • @adamiroronra
    @adamiroronra Год назад +3

    13:40 - It would be great if the remake put this boss "return". Like he said : "Perhaps in another time, another game..." 😙

  • @hypotheticaltapeworm
    @hypotheticaltapeworm Год назад +4

    They actually went and added the Donkey Kong joke in the remake.

  • @JacktheRacoon
    @JacktheRacoon Год назад +9

    15:37 I think it’s also possible for them to include a low poly Sephiroth that would talk about how detailed the other characters look in the remaster. Either way, this is really insightful and interesting!!

  • @mattm7220
    @mattm7220 Год назад +3

    Wait... You guys never had the coloured buttons on the controller!?
    That's like, the defining feature of the SNES 🤯

    • @ExaltedUriel
      @ExaltedUriel Год назад +1

      Yeah, it's a bit lame. We never had the cool Super Famicom logo either, lol

    • @gaminggoddess85
      @gaminggoddess85 Год назад +2

      I think some unofficial SNES controllers had the Japanese button colors, but yeah we just got purples.

    • @mattm7220
      @mattm7220 Год назад

      @@gaminggoddess85 I wonder why Nintendo decided to change the button colour in the US, but not the rest of the world 🤔
      I know Australia got the coloured buttons, but I'd be curious to know if the UK did too - maybe it was a PAL thing?

    • @velvetbutterfly
      @velvetbutterfly Год назад

      @@mattm7220Lance Barr, designer of the North American SNES quote
      The Super Famicom was maybe okay for the market in Japan. For the US, I felt that it was too soft and had no edge. We were always looking at future modular components (even the NES had a connector on the bottom), so you had to design with the idea of stacking on top of other components. I though the Super Famicom didn't look good when stacked and even by itself, had a kind of "bag of bread" look.

  • @muticere
    @muticere Год назад +2

    On the topic of Mario's jump, this was something I picked up on in English. It wasn't just those scenes, but there were other parts in the game where characters ask to see Mario jump and and comment on or react to how special that is. Actually it was Mario RPG that first put it in my head that Mario's main deal is that he can jump real high. So yeah, while I guess it is more explicit in the Japanese version, it definitely is there in the English, too.

  • @Zenlore6499
    @Zenlore6499 Год назад +23

    Heyyy! Love to see a good old Region Break!

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Год назад +3

      And as you can see, the japamese version is very different

  • @GODOFAWSOMENESS1
    @GODOFAWSOMENESS1 Год назад +2

    I’m fine with the save screen changing. It looks way better and less crowded

  • @AHOPOAH
    @AHOPOAH Год назад +10

    Here in Brazil this gesture isn't really that bad. It's what little children do before they learn about giving the middle finger, so it's actually seen as a cute silly gesture. We also call it "banana for you"

    • @gustrindade
      @gustrindade Год назад +1

      Yeah I was thinking that but then realised it may have been a bit worse in 1996. I was 8 so can't really tell.

    • @PedroPaulo-zh2nm
      @PedroPaulo-zh2nm Год назад +1

      @@gustrindade Nope. It was considered silly even as far back as 1986!

  • @breakingaustin
    @breakingaustin Год назад +5

    CONGRATS ON 1M!!! Well deserved, you have worked so hard for this!! Congrats man!!

  • @STICKGUYMB
    @STICKGUYMB Год назад +3

    The Metroid translation would probably be like a bad pun, like "....amusetroid..."

  • @Tanookicatoon
    @Tanookicatoon Год назад +1

    Metroid being mispelled isn't a mispelling at all. Listen to any Japanese Metroid commercial. That's the catchphrase. lol
    I think it's even said if you call one of the Developers in Samus's Ship in Prime 3 as an Easter egg.

  • @latexu95
    @latexu95 Год назад +3

    11:28 Also, in Paper Mario, there are two fighters in the Mushroom Dojo called Chan and Lee, clear references to Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee. Just like the pokemons Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan.😉🥋

  • @theportablestoves
    @theportablestoves Год назад +1

    Good episode! This really was the journey to showing off all of the regional SMRPG differences.

  • @Super_Top_Secret_Area
    @Super_Top_Secret_Area Год назад +3

    It's not that they spoiled the main antagonist in the US version, they intentionally tried to mislead players, even in that one commercial where "Smithy the sword" was said to be the main antagonist. But they didn't actually show Smithy, it was just Exor.

  • @MarMaxGaming
    @MarMaxGaming Год назад +1

    Damn nice intro!! Love to see you still going!

  • @monkeywithocd
    @monkeywithocd Год назад +30

    A couple of those changes seem like they may have been influenced by character limits, since English isn't as compact a language as Japanese. Namely I'm thinking of the Donkey Kong one.

    • @Mewseeker
      @Mewseeker Год назад +10

      The Axem Ranger Justice Breaker becoming the Breaker Beam is probably another one.

    • @phantomy2034
      @phantomy2034 Год назад

      @monkeywithocd That particular "character limit" example is countered by the fact that there's a later variant called "Chained Kong", which is longer than "Donkey Kong".

    • @monkeywithocd
      @monkeywithocd Год назад

      @@phantomy2034 I was thinking the full line, not the name. I forget what it was but the translated Japanese is a little lengthy, while what's in the game is oddly split between two lines. My guess is that the game was programmed in a way that the localization team could not add or remove lines, and so the translation had to take up a similar amount of space to the Japanese.

    • @phantomy2034
      @phantomy2034 Год назад

      @@monkeywithocd Well, I didn't realize you were referring to the thought quote thing...

  • @colinmccauley9257
    @colinmccauley9257 Год назад +1

    I'm sure someone else has said it, but Valentina/Margarita is not holding a margarita. There's a cherry in there, and the glass may or may not be a marg glass.
    Thankfully, this game breaking screw-up appears to have been fixed in the remake, and the game will FINALLY be playable. Looking forward to the new HD lime.

  • @JJMcCullough
    @JJMcCullough Год назад +4

    I loved this game so much as a kid. Very witty writing, and a lot of memorable characters and some really great secrets giving it a lot of replay value. I had the official Nintendo Player's Guide, but then many years later I went to Japan and bought a Player's Guide there, and discovered that all the various items and clothing and things had "official" art as well that was never published in any American media. I see you show a couple pieces of that art here, like of the B'tub Ring.
    One thing I've always been curious about is the Hobgoblin enemy. He has such a weird-looking belt. I wonder what that's about.

    • @MateDrinker33
      @MateDrinker33 7 месяцев назад

      Dang, fancy seeing you here, JJM! Loved your mini-documentary on the Falun-Gong from a few years back! :D

  • @mollz3704
    @mollz3704 Год назад +1

    your dog sniffing the SNES controller made me happy

  • @e7nn
    @e7nn Год назад +9

    0:33 :
    "bras d'honneur", [lit. "arm of honor"] is French (pronounced "bra" and not "brass" btw) but seems to have the same meaning in a lot of European countries. Basically flipping the bird (which in France we call "doigt d'honneur", lit. "finger of honor")

    • @LeakyBuffer
      @LeakyBuffer Год назад +1

      I don’t know what planet the Yt’er is on in US it means the same thing. Ie., FU 😂

    • @e7nn
      @e7nn Год назад

      @@LeakyBuffer Yeah that's his point, it was censored in the US because it has a totally different meaning in Japan

  • @Sacrer
    @Sacrer Год назад +1

    This video made me really appreciate Mario. I never knew it had games with this many details. Thanks for sharing it!

  • @drewster237
    @drewster237 Год назад +5

    CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT AMAZING INTRO FOR A SEC

  • @randy437665
    @randy437665 Год назад +1

    Congrats on hitting 1 million followers!

  • @maugos
    @maugos Год назад +4

    B'Tub ring = Bride-To-Be ring
    Also, quartz is a type of crystal, so, I feel Quartz Charm still works.

  • @JonnyAtma
    @JonnyAtma Год назад +2

    It never really dawned on me until this video that Culex is the only "flat" sprite enemy in the game. Not that I thought he was 3D before, just never thought about it. That JP dialogue definitely makes it far more noticeable as an important aspect of his character.
    So glad this remake is coming, bringing awesome fresh SMRPG related video content like this along with it, thank you Shesez! 🙂

  • @psirensongs
    @psirensongs Год назад +4

    That Donkey Kong bit in the Japanese version is tremendous 😂

  • @BasVoet
    @BasVoet Год назад +2

    Oh this is a treat! My favourite show on RUclips. Thanks!

  • @latexu95
    @latexu95 Год назад +3

    14:26 He's poetically calling Mario fat.😅

  • @N.Paradise
    @N.Paradise 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's pretty interesting that the Battle Arena for the 100 Jump Trials for the original Super Mario RPG has different textures in Japan!

  • @justinpenascosa
    @justinpenascosa Год назад +4

    I'm so tired seeing the "Bowser Victory Pose" and "Secret Code" all over the internet. 😅

  • @muizzsiddique
    @muizzsiddique Год назад +2

    FYI the Japan's Bowser gesture would also be offensive in USA and UK.

  • @MistareFusion
    @MistareFusion Год назад +3

    Great video, as always, and for one of my favorite games to boot!
    For anyone confused by it, "B'Tub Ring" is an abbreviation of "Bathtub Ring." They probably didn't have enough characters for the whole word. A bathtub ring is what we call the accumulation of dirt and whatnot that encircles the inside of an unwashed bathtub. The joke is that the game is calling a literal ring a bathtub ring. Only Woolsey knows why he made a completely unrelated joke out of the original item, but it seems pretty clear he was going for the play on words. 😀

    • @BananaFaceDude56
      @BananaFaceDude56 Год назад

      that's a joke that's just incorrect

    • @gaminggoddess85
      @gaminggoddess85 Год назад

      According to other comments it's an abbreviation of Bride to Be Ring, which makes 100x more sense.

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion Год назад

      @@gaminggoddess85 It really doesn't make much logical sense at all. Contractions are represented by an apostrophe. The apostrophe represents where missing letters are being implied. For Bride to Be to work, you'd have to assume the apostrophe represents bride AND they arbitrarily changed the spelling of "to" to "tu" AND contracted "be" but this time without signifying it with an apostrophe. That is a huge stretch. Or... the far simpler explanation that tub is already a word on its own and is presented as a full word in the name of this item. And it's a simple, common pun. And it very much fits the style of the translator. I'm afraid people are just bending over backwards trying to apply a narrative logic to an inaccurate but clever throwaway localization choice.

    • @gaminggoddess85
      @gaminggoddess85 Год назад

      @@MistareFusion It's the SNES in 1996. There usually wasn't a lot of space in memory or onscreen to devote to enormous item names or character names in English so localizers had to get creative (to mixed results). Japanese can fit a whole paragraph in the same space that would take other languages several text boxes because of how compact kanji is as a writing style.

  • @jakkurinjactenderjakala4129
    @jakkurinjactenderjakala4129 Год назад +1

    I absolutely loved the intro!! Whoever made the animation needs to do A LOT of Super Mario RPG (unofficial) promo animations for the remake

  • @Master0fHyrule
    @Master0fHyrule Год назад +21

    My favorite RPG! LET'S GO!😊

  • @AndrewDLuffy
    @AndrewDLuffy Год назад +1

    Awsome I was hoping for a video on this after the announcement Awsome video shesez

  • @thebestissofar1
    @thebestissofar1 Год назад +4

    Here in Brazil that gesture Bowser made means "Go F.... yourself " basically

    • @danielpayne1597
      @danielpayne1597 Год назад

      What is it called in Brazil? I always thought Bowser's pose was referred to as the "Iberian Salute" with the same meaning. 9001% Bowser attitude!

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Год назад

      Here in the US that's conveyed simply by holding up your middle finger. Much simpler and you can even do it work both hands at once... The good old double deuce.

  • @spacecow2455
    @spacecow2455 Год назад +1

    The best guess I've heard for LoveLove Ring becoming B'Tub Ring is that someone read "Rabu Rabu Ringu" as "Rub Rub Ring" and took it as "rub a dub dub" but also nobody knows for sure

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 Год назад +5

    3:46 Not gonna mention how that the hiragana is removed entirely in the remake?
    16:07 No, she does *not* hold a margarita. A margarita contains lime juice with a lime slice on the rim, while Valentina's drink in the SNES version contains a cherry. This was, again, fixed in the remake.

  • @latexu95
    @latexu95 Год назад +2

    10:30 That's a possible reference to Mario's original name "Jumpman" from 1981 Donkey Kong.😉

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 Год назад +4

    As a European I'm so excited to finally play this classic with the remake.

    • @jakkurinjactenderjakala4129
      @jakkurinjactenderjakala4129 Год назад +1

      Europeans already had it on Wii VC, Wii U VC and SNES Mini but yeah, this is the best European chance!!

  • @riftshredder5438
    @riftshredder5438 Год назад +1

    That explains why the remake won't have the subtitle "The Legend of the Seven Stars"

  • @chrisbeach423
    @chrisbeach423 Год назад +4

    I never knew Culex name was Crystaller in Japan. Thats cool. Id about guarantee he will be in 2D like the original. Probably will look like he’s lifted out of a Paper Mario game.

    • @baltakatei
      @baltakatei Год назад

      I'm guessing he'll look like how the FF:VI remake integrated 3D environments with 2D original sprites.

    • @chrisbeach423
      @chrisbeach423 Год назад

      @@baltakatei thats actually a pretty good guess, you could be right. Depends on who has more control, Nintendo or Square lol

    • @chrisbeach423
      @chrisbeach423 11 месяцев назад

      @@baltakateiaye I was kinda right 😂

  • @casedistorted
    @casedistorted Год назад +1

    Fascinating, Jim! I swear if they don't put Culex in the remastered version I am going to have a fit.
    Wow.. I always thought Mallow was a cloud too! And not just a short name for Marshmallow.. DOH!

  • @K3NnY_G
    @K3NnY_G Год назад +6

    2:38 - I've some questions about Mallow's HP in the US version here. xD

    • @velvetbutterfly
      @velvetbutterfly Год назад

      He used gameshark or something to make it easier to speed through the game or otherwise just used cheats to skip to various places just to gather footage

  • @rtyuik7
    @rtyuik7 Год назад +2

    16:28 - i love the "cameo" by ThaBeast...

  • @raffaelm6558
    @raffaelm6558 Год назад +3

    The playful changes of the dialogue like the Bazooka or the Bruce Lee line remind me of the original German version of Link's Awakening that had some really creative localizations and even raunchy text hidden in the game. When you spread magic powder on the Buzz Blob to turn them into Cukeman it would say stuff like "Give me your juice, I'll give you mine" which was a very popular innuendo at the time or even shout "NEVER WITHOUT A CONDOM!" in all caps. That stuff was already removed in the DX version and never returned.

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN Год назад

      I’m confused. The “never without a condom” made it into the game in German?

    • @raffaelm6558
      @raffaelm6558 Год назад

      @@AlexRN Yup, no idea how they managed that. It shouted "NIEMALS OHNE KONDOM!" at you. Also the English phrase "Stop the war! Give peace a chance!" and the juice line I mentioned, which is also a sexual innuendo.

  • @bristolwork
    @bristolwork Год назад

    Just finished watching the Pikmin 4 discussion vid with Alro, and my goodness, if the intro is any indication to the quality of your content, I feel like I hit the jackpot. Subscribed! ^^

  • @fveraeaglesfanable
    @fveraeaglesfanable Год назад +1

    wow your knowledge is pretty amazing, thank you!

  • @GamerFunOriginallyAarush
    @GamerFunOriginallyAarush Год назад +3

    Didn’t know it was very different in USA and Japan!

  • @latexu95
    @latexu95 Год назад +2

    14:54 And that's how the Final Fantasy series jumped to 3D graphics in the 7th installment.😉

  • @terrysyvertson9205
    @terrysyvertson9205 Год назад +3

    i think in the remake those symbols in the Japanese version for geno's real name will be changed because some of those symbols don't show up on any wingdings or webdings list at all, not even Japanese lists, it's also possible that it's not wingdings/webdings but some other kind of symbols, also, that symbol you called an eye, looks more like a computer chip, although, the symbol you called a poke ball is for lower case y, so geno's real name starts with y

    • @proking2354
      @proking2354 Год назад +3

      The symbols used in Gene’s real name in Japanese are entirely custom characters that are stored at the end of the game’s font files. I imagine they will be kept probably in all versions because they are custom “letters” made specifically for the game. The remake seems quite faithful, I don’t know why they would remove something like the symbols they drew specially for it.

    • @jakkurinjactenderjakala4129
      @jakkurinjactenderjakala4129 Год назад +2

      ​@@proking2354Geno's English real name (♥️🎶⁉️) was added in the SNES version because the font didn't have access to the Japanese real name's symbols. Indeed, his japanese name will now be global in the remake!! R.I.P. ♥️🎶⁉️ tho (and R.I.P. Mario's peace sign victory animation, now it is a hats off animation unless the characters will now have several victory animations)

  • @Norweeg
    @Norweeg Год назад +2

    16:28 I did not expect to see Thab in this episode. I still can’t understand why he was shown here, it seems so random.
    Ah, I think it’s a reference to his N64 series intro where he says “and I mean all of them.” Gotcha.

  • @Legitlegend2435
    @Legitlegend2435 Год назад +23

    Can’t wait for the reboot of the game

  • @Battue64
    @Battue64 Год назад +1

    Been looking forward to this video, great work!