i forgot that the health experts before the outbreak shown in the tv series both said that vaccines/cures weren't viable. helps Joel's case in keeping Ellie alive
As does the fact that in the show, the social/ethical collapse, not the infected themselves are the biggest danger to humanity. And the fact that the whole idea that they could know that they need to kill her to make a cure hours after finding them is bullshit the firefly doctor is a total quack and is is no way able to make a cure from Ellie’s brain.
Yeah, but I think the way that Ellie got her immunity is quite unique... Emmm like her mother got bitten while giving birth. I'd say probably less than 10 people lol But also, humanity needs enough scientists and doctors to survive in order to move forward with the antibodies
Probably … sort of … maybe …. just one hiccup. Something I got to thinking about concerning the way she became immune … In the TV show, Ellie’s mother exclaims she was bit _after_ cutting the chord. Even repeats it sternly (even though we know that’s not true). She knew they wouldn’t take Ellie if she thought she was infected, as well. So, in the show, no one knows that is how she became immune. Anyone pregnant going through the same scenario where they’re bitten while giving birth would likely end up with both mother and child killed. No one knows that it’s a way to possibly give birth to someone immune, and others aren’t going to risk it believing they’re both infected, so they’ll take them both out. If the mother gives birth alone and it happens, then the mother would turn and likely kill the child. Ellie’s situations made it even more rare considering they were found by people who knew her and trusted one another, but no one saw her get bit or give birth, so she was able to lie and claim she was bit after cutting the chord. They took her at her word. It really is a one in an 8 billion chance given the situation working out just perfectly. The scenario that would have to be set up: being _alone_ to give birth, be bit, cut the chord immediately once realizing, not feeding the child any breast milk, but also being found just in time before the infection overtook them to hand the child to someone where there was mutual trust to not believe they’d lie before they did harm while lying about when the chord was cut and when the bite happened. Slims down those chances more. Not exactly a scenario that would be as common as we’d believe. (edit: wording and clarification) Just something I haven’t seen a lot talk about ever.
Ellie isn’t immune, she just has the “non-zombie-brain-infection” type of cordyceps. There are actually many different types and Ellie has the one that isn’t the kind that makes yo go nuts. They time that she has can stop her from getting infected with the other type of cordycepts, making her seem immune.
I’m an ICU nurse and this topic made me extremely curious. We have a protocol called “targeted temperature management” that is used when a patient meets all the requirements after a heart attack where we lower their core body temperature anywhere from 89° to 96°F for 24 hours and then we slowly warm them back up to 98.6°F after that time period has been reached. It’s done to hopefully slow the cascade of inflammation and damage that happens in the brain, potentially slowing irreversible brain damage. This makes me wonder if someone could potentially be infected while being cooled, which, of course I would assume the fungus would die once they reach normothermia. However, just something that made me think 😅 Similarly, I wonder if (in the case of the show) you could warm the body once infected to kill the fungus. Although someone would need to find the temperature threshold of the mutated cordyceps and hopefully it is within a parameter that the human body can withstand. Like maybe putting someone in a sauna to raise core body temperature 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
It wouldn't work, the people in TLOU get infected thru a fungus able to somehow survive in a baked wheat product. There's no temperature a person can be heated up that could work unless somehow the fungus is weaker while infecting than when it is in the wheat crop.
@@francovlla no, I don’t. If I wanted to I would have gone to med school. Don’t project your own insecurities onto others 🤣 Such a strange comment to post on a theoretical topic about a fictional apocalyptic event
I’m not sure if the early stages can cure hearing. The grandma didn’t hear Sara when she called out to them on outbreak day, and Sam didn’t hear Ellie. She had to touch him first.
@@rossen7392 I've recently rewatched the first episode and when Sara was doing her hw the daughter was trying to feed her mom vegs and then saying something around the lines of why I'm I talking you lost your hearing a while ago
It’s crazy how many think they can survive, the same kind of people who feel they can’t go a day without buying an expensive cup of coffee from star bucks lol when their everyday items wouldn’t be produced anymore, we saw that with the supply chain during covid in countries like Canada, America, food would get scarce quick ..
well technically the boy wasn't cured from deafness when he became infected because he didn't attack until the girl entered his line of sight and he actually saw her. He didn't respond to her when she spoke to him and his back was turned away from her.
True. But I feel like eventually the cordyceps would do something to manipulate the hearing so that "when" the body morphed into a clicker it wouldn't be useless. But it could also jsut be more for the flesh pile too
@@WowSuchGaming yea the cordyceps does "fix" ailments but it needs time to. And Sam probably recently was taken over by it (within an hour, I would say) and it didn't have enough time to correct his deafness. In a day or so he would probably hear like any other infected.
The most terrifying part is that the fungus will only grow more adaptive over time. It literally never stops. Who’s to say it doesn’t adapt to these hotter environments the same way it was able to end up being able to live inside the human body? It’s terrifying
It won't at least not anywhere near our lifetimes. It takes thousands of years to adapt. Right now it only infects insects. A leap from insects to humans isn't going to happen. It's just too big a leap. Basically it's like expecting a shark to suddenly grow legs and be able to walk about on land.
@@oscar3153 the long living infected have increased resistance to headshots and bullets in general, that gets better with each progressing stage(Clickers, Bloaters, Shamblers and anything after)
Using "infected" in zombie media annoys me..... but in the TLOU it is accurate considering the infected will remain sentient until their skull is opened up. Also the thought of them being alive in the darkness of their brain when turned clicker terrifies me.
But I heard that most likely Ellie is immune because she is infected with a different species of fungi and said fungi was very protective over their host
I think about this a lot, my boyfriend is chronically ill and has an auto immune disease. Even if we survived the outbreak, found shelter and food... if he ran out of his medicine he would die. The zombie apocalypse would unfortunately take out a lot of disabled folk
She is infected with a mutant fungus PLUS she has a genetic mutation in her brain. Both together make her immune. And that is why the Firefly doctor wanted Ellie's brain in a jar. But it also means NO VACCINE. You can't make a vaccine that alters the DNA of a person's brain, except at the fetal level. Therefore it was completely unnecessary to kill Ellie to get at her DNA. So, the game Part 3 needs some really clever writing to be believable.
@@bautispidey8864 I don’t think we saw what happened to Riley. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong. I think Riley might have ended it and Ellie kept going.
hey btw for the record, there is more than one species of parasitic fungus. in fact, theres several genera of fungi that do more or less the same thing. taxonomic familes Entomophthoraceae, Rhizopodaceae and Cordycipitaceae all have dozens and dozens of species that do the thing. now you know
I would die pretty quick in the post-apocalyptic world. Even if I was one of the (un)lucky ones to survive the initial disaster, I am far to confrontational and hard-headed I'd get myself killed in the first colony I found lol
I hope people don’t forget we can’t make a vaccine out of Ellie, that’s the reason the game and the show is called The Last of Us, humanity is already doomed, the game even hint to that fact with notes and recordings and the show even stated that at the beginning
The game also states that one can be infected by being bit by someone who is infected which means either Abby is also immune (because Ellie bit her in Seattle and she never turned by the time Abby got to California) or Eille can't infect anyone by biting them.
i would love to know how places like greenland or australia would be doing, if they closed flights early enough and controlled the food they would actually survive and go on without much damage i think
Fungal spores are actually wildly resistant to many forms of treatment . Droughts are no trouble for them(while they are an issues for the actual organism) and very resistant to chemical treatments. Its only a small stretch to say that it was durable enough to survive being cooked.
you’d also just have to Know that it’s the flour or wheat or whatever that spreads it, and i wonder if that news actually travelled quickly enough. people would stock up food when they left their homes or looted, and could very well end up getting infected weeks/months later by simply eating the wrong thing:( i bet there would’ve been at least one case somewhere of an entire quarantine location being poisoned because they unknowingly included infected food in the camp’s diet edit - just got to the part where you talk about fresh crops potentially being infected, i hadn’t even considered that oooof
OK but the show reveals that Ellie's immunity is likely replicable, by having a pregnant woman infected before giving birth the baby would be immune and its brain could be used to create vaccines. AND it could be achieved voluntarily - eventually someone would take an admittedly pretty tough one for the team. The death of the "only doctor who could make a cure" is completely contrived; wouldn't he have made records of his research? And even if not, other scientists could probably figure it out through whatever process Abby's dad went through. And all that assumes that Ellie's birth was the only one of its kind, which statistically is unlikely.
That's horrifying to think about. But i think the baby would die and just become biomass for other infected to fuse with, such as with a rat king or a bloater. At least in the game's version of cordyceps. Idk if the same goes for the HBO version tho. Maybe it becomes part of those wall tendril thingies
Well I'm Australian so the gun thing wouldn't be an issue, I also live right next to the bush so we would probably go north coastal, the hardest thing would definitely be finding food with the lack of guns, however we have fishing rods so I guess I'd try that, you'd definitely want to be good friends with some indigenous Australians since they have hunted and foraged for thousands of years. But I do think the harsh conditions would get me before the fungus haha
@@baneofbanes North of the river perth I know a few farmers none of the ones I know have guns haha but all I'm saying is there will not be like a thousand people running around like idiots with guns, milk crates or frying pans maybe but not allot with guns.
@@mickaylamaystrawberry6251 just because you don’t know doesn’t make it so dude. There are millions of civilian owned guns in Australia, both legal and illegal. That’s not even getting into police and military arsenals, which in an apocalyptic scenario would be looted. You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
People who hate the show because of the spores thing, then they need to watch the movie The girl with all the gifts. It's a zombie movie where the virus is spread by spores. If spores got into the air then the last humans might as well end themselves because the spores would be EVERYWHERE. If we're talking about reality being a basis then there wouldn't just be areas with thick spores, but the spores would travel everywhere regardless. Masks wouldn't help, only sealing yourself away completely and even that is a stretch. The show makers have done their research and I'm grateful they made a story with accurate science and facts.
Logistics are the way this outbreak would fail. If it all flowed from a big flour plant in Jakarta you would see SE Asia go into anarchy first and not the whole world all at once. It takes weeks for ships to travel the oceans and days for goods to leave ports of entry. It's just impossible for it to hit grocery store shelves all over the world within a 24-48 hour period.
There is currently an Olympic team somewhere in the world that uses a cordyceps mushroom as a supplement in order to get more oxygen or something but the way they cultivate it or grow it is on caterpillars , it's only a matter of time
If we had a chance to stop this infection, I think one of the hardest challenges would be taking down fungal areas with spores. Like underground areas, the Cordyceps is literally everywhere. I think 60% of humanity was whipped out, according to the game. The show, I can’t remember if they had a statistic for it. I think another challenge would be taking down Bloaters. Bloaters require a little bit of attention and thinking to take down. Especially in part ii of the games and the remaster of TLOU part I. Bloaters are very weak fire to though. But bloaters are bloody ridiculous to fight now, I love it. I think any group that ran into a few bloaters, you would need to take em down fast and coordinate your attack. This would be a really hard to deal with, when you look other movies, games, scenarios, TLOU scenario is just wicked.
The world in the show was toned down so much, literally have ellie commenting on how easy a 5 day trek was and that she didn't know "what tommy was so afraid of". I could totally survive in that world for a decent interval.
Hold up. If it only takes 5 to 15 Minutes to become fully Infected when you're bitten on the neck. Then how did Tess manage to last an hour after being bitten
It wasn't until I heard the 94 degrees was kinda a fact that I've NEVER been more thankful for my thyroidectomy. I usually ran cold at 93.4 to 93.7. Anything higher was considered a low grade fever for me.
The hate for Abby is ridiculous. She's an amazing character who's driving force is 100% logical and understandable. Ellie's hunt for Joel's killer is cheered, but Abby doing the same for her father is for some reason frowned upon....
I'm sorry but this opinion is ridiculous, the game developers pulled out a plot point out of their ass with the second game and they killed off the main character in a way they thought would be the good type of shock factor, only to disappoint and piss off every actual fan, then they try to make you sympathize with her by playing her, worst most trash sequel.
Tbh I'd game end myself if i managed to survive the initial outbreak. Its been shown/theorized that humans retain some consciousness in the earlier stages, and I'm not about to live like that
So the Ellie being a mean thing game theory actually has a couple of really good vids on both why they Couldn't have made a cure Even if everything had gone their way and also a really good one on ellies Immunity.
Surviving any situation and how long in that situation you survive depends on how prepared you are to deal with that situation and not just learning how to scavenge for supplies or shooting and weaponry but what to do and how to survive once your supplies run out I know how to survive I was taught by my father just like he learned from his father before him and because I am a survivalist and a bushcrafter I think I would be just fine
In relation to the hive mind part, along with their body is deteriorating and becoming some sort of signal up to a mile away blah blah blah blah blah, I’m kind of curious why don’t they just burn the bodies they find? Granted what it probably still alert any infected up to a mile away, probably but at the same time it would help us stop the spread in some aspect right?? Or at least cripple the communication between all the infected within that mile radius of where you Burnt the corpse/fungus
Off topic, but I think the show does a good job of showing just how the infected act as a hive mind, whereas in the games, it seems mostly like small groups of infected. I understand that game levels can only have so much so that they don't make your console explode, but I think it would've been cool to see that and experience it.
When it comes to agriculture, if we dig a little deeper, we might be able to pinpoint the root cause to businesses that market biological pest control methods like fungi, as in this science fiction story, which began with wheat and spread from there. A small amount of spores wouldn't be all that dangerous, but if enough modified fungi (whose forced evolution was sparked) were intentionally spread throughout the wheat field, then enough spores could find their way to susceptible hosts (humans). That's my only imagination beyond the fiction. 😊
Can all newborn babies be “immunised” (ie. entered into a symbiotic relationship with the fungus rather than a destructive one) at birth like Ellie, by introducing cordyceps to the umbilical cord?
I don't think all newborn babies could be made immune that way, but I'm sure many would, as it works on the same principles of (for instance) being more resistant to whatever flu virus was going around at the time of your birth to whatever extent. Only issue is, I doubt many mothers would willingly get bit for the off-chance of creating an immune baby. Then of course, the step of the mom being removed from her baby to avoid turning and killing the baby.
It might infect the mother and cause her to turn as it if it can cross the placental barrier to infect a fetus, it almost certainly can make do the reverse.
It's super unlikely that it would ever evolve to attack humans as it's niche is specific to one species, so far it can't even jump to another species of insect, it's only evolved to alter one insects brain function. That's not to say it never will but it apparently would take a heck of a lot of evolution specifically like said in the series it would struggle to survive in body temperature :)
Thought of the day the cordyceps fungus doesn’t effect the brain, feed on its host, or have any form of central hub of infection in its host meaning that an infected individual can survive almost any amount of injury and still attack, furthermore the host doesn’t need to be alive to be infected
Despite what he said the strain is shown to be the one I mentioned by the fact that it fills a host body, it goes to the head to stop the immune system
Seems pretty consistent that most people with knowledge of the game were very hesitant about something in the show. At least initially. I went so far as to wait till 5 episodes where out to watch it.
I wonder if several decades later the fungus issue somehow will be solved and will become some kind of cure for all type of diseases and also, improves human condition and give it super strength and powers haha all this time the humanity was just summited to a purgatory
I dont have HBO, but heard abt this. Thanks so much for this bc now i feel like I'm watching it. I had not even know abt the vid game. Oh, i would immediately become infected. I not only am a wuss, I cannot resist carbs.
My problem with removing the spores is they never had a moment that proved Ellie was immune, in the game he still didn’t believe her he was more doing it for Tess but what proved it for him was her breathing spores without coughing in the subway. Joel just trusts the bite mark instantly in the show.
i forgot that the health experts before the outbreak shown in the tv series both said that vaccines/cures weren't viable. helps Joel's case in keeping Ellie alive
Case for the viewer or case in the show?
@@Dunlop86 Most likely shown for the viewer. With plenty of us having hindsight it does help Joel's choice morally🤷🏼♂️
@@friendedtreefilms but the question about his morality doesn’t revolve around “was he right” it revolves around “why did he lie” imo
@@drown_n It makes us ask both, they convalute with eachother. His morals and what he fought for led to him lying and doing what he did, no?
As does the fact that in the show, the social/ethical collapse, not the infected themselves are the biggest danger to humanity. And the fact that the whole idea that they could know that they need to kill her to make a cure hours after finding them is bullshit the firefly doctor is a total quack and is is no way able to make a cure from Ellie’s brain.
Out of 8 billion people , there probably are a few people who are immune or people who were born in the same way as Ellie in the show
Yeah, but I think the way that Ellie got her immunity is quite unique... Emmm like her mother got bitten while giving birth. I'd say probably less than 10 people lol But also, humanity needs enough scientists and doctors to survive in order to move forward with the antibodies
Probably … sort of … maybe …. just one hiccup.
Something I got to thinking about concerning the way she became immune …
In the TV show, Ellie’s mother exclaims she was bit _after_ cutting the chord. Even repeats it sternly (even though we know that’s not true). She knew they wouldn’t take Ellie if she thought she was infected, as well.
So, in the show, no one knows that is how she became immune.
Anyone pregnant going through the same scenario where they’re bitten while giving birth would likely end up with both mother and child killed. No one knows that it’s a way to possibly give birth to someone immune, and others aren’t going to risk it believing they’re both infected, so they’ll take them both out.
If the mother gives birth alone and it happens, then the mother would turn and likely kill the child. Ellie’s situations made it even more rare considering they were found by people who knew her and trusted one another, but no one saw her get bit or give birth, so she was able to lie and claim she was bit after cutting the chord. They took her at her word.
It really is a one in an 8 billion chance given the situation working out just perfectly. The scenario that would have to be set up: being _alone_ to give birth, be bit, cut the chord immediately once realizing, not feeding the child any breast milk, but also being found just in time before the infection overtook them to hand the child to someone where there was mutual trust to not believe they’d lie before they did harm while lying about when the chord was cut and when the bite happened. Slims down those chances more. Not exactly a scenario that would be as common as we’d believe.
(edit: wording and clarification)
Just something I haven’t seen a lot talk about ever.
Ellie isn’t immune, she just has the “non-zombie-brain-infection” type of cordyceps. There are actually many different types and Ellie has the one that isn’t the kind that makes yo go nuts. They time that she has can stop her from getting infected with the other type of cordycepts, making her seem immune.
@@DestinyGnadouso what you are saying is. That she needs to bite everyone she sees XD
They may be not survived tho.
I’m an ICU nurse and this topic made me extremely curious. We have a protocol called “targeted temperature management” that is used when a patient meets all the requirements after a heart attack where we lower their core body temperature anywhere from 89° to 96°F for 24 hours and then we slowly warm them back up to 98.6°F after that time period has been reached. It’s done to hopefully slow the cascade of inflammation and damage that happens in the brain, potentially slowing irreversible brain damage. This makes me wonder if someone could potentially be infected while being cooled, which, of course I would assume the fungus would die once they reach normothermia. However, just something that made me think 😅
Similarly, I wonder if (in the case of the show) you could warm the body once infected to kill the fungus. Although someone would need to find the temperature threshold of the mutated cordyceps and hopefully it is within a parameter that the human body can withstand. Like maybe putting someone in a sauna to raise core body temperature 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
I LOVE this take!
It wouldn't work, the people in TLOU get infected thru a fungus able to somehow survive in a baked wheat product. There's no temperature a person can be heated up that could work unless somehow the fungus is weaker while infecting than when it is in the wheat crop.
Your telling me the 15 minute hot scolding showers I take could save my life say less 😂
Very cool and educational!
@@francovlla no, I don’t. If I wanted to I would have gone to med school. Don’t project your own insecurities onto others 🤣
Such a strange comment to post on a theoretical topic about a fictional apocalyptic event
I’m not sure if the early stages can cure hearing. The grandma didn’t hear Sara when she called out to them on outbreak day, and Sam didn’t hear Ellie. She had to touch him first.
yeah. itd be too complex for fungus to replace inner ear issues
Sam was deaf and it’s possible the grandma just didn’t hear her
@@rossen7392 I've recently rewatched the first episode and when Sara was doing her hw the daughter was trying to feed her mom vegs and then saying something around the lines of why I'm I talking you lost your hearing a while ago
Sam is deaf
why are people replying with sam is deaf as if you didn’t just say that
Of course i won't survive, i can barely survive a regular life
Same. Same. 😢
maybe you're built for this instead
Living by society’s rules vs your own rules are wayyy different lifestyles
It’s crazy how many think they can survive, the same kind of people who feel they can’t go a day without buying an expensive cup of coffee from star bucks lol when their everyday items wouldn’t be produced anymore, we saw that with the supply chain during covid in countries like Canada, America, food would get scarce quick ..
Maybe living in an irregular life of the apocalypse is actually the environment you'd succeed in? as opposed to this rigid one we have to bear now
Scariest moment in the show. Telling us how screwed we are if the fungus comes.
Bill: I made a fence that zombies and marauders could never pass through for some reason.
One good thing to come from this show for me is that it killed my flour addiction.
well technically the boy wasn't cured from deafness when he became infected because he didn't attack until the girl entered his line of sight and he actually saw her. He didn't respond to her when she spoke to him and his back was turned away from her.
True. But I feel like eventually the cordyceps would do something to manipulate the hearing so that "when" the body morphed into a clicker it wouldn't be useless. But it could also jsut be more for the flesh pile too
@@WowSuchGaming yea the cordyceps does "fix" ailments but it needs time to. And Sam probably recently was taken over by it (within an hour, I would say) and it didn't have enough time to correct his deafness. In a day or so he would probably hear like any other infected.
“No cures , its not even possible to make them.”
Fireflies finds the only immune person - “were going cut out her brain”. 🤔
Desperate people are stupid.
However, there ARE anti-fungal medications.
Tess actually said you are not immune to being torn apart
yeah, and it made Ellie realise that even if she's immune to turning, she's still not safe. she can still die in a tragic manner
The most terrifying part is that the fungus will only grow more adaptive over time. It literally never stops. Who’s to say it doesn’t adapt to these hotter environments the same way it was able to end up being able to live inside the human body? It’s terrifying
Cant adapt to an M16 in the face
It won't at least not anywhere near our lifetimes. It takes thousands of years to adapt. Right now it only infects insects. A leap from insects to humans isn't going to happen. It's just too big a leap. Basically it's like expecting a shark to suddenly grow legs and be able to walk about on land.
@@oscar3153 well I have news for you...
@@vocazxls4787 ?
@@oscar3153 the long living infected have increased resistance to headshots and bullets in general, that gets better with each progressing stage(Clickers, Bloaters, Shamblers and anything after)
Using "infected" in zombie media annoys me..... but in the TLOU it is accurate considering the infected will remain sentient until their skull is opened up. Also the thought of them being alive in the darkness of their brain when turned clicker terrifies me.
But I heard that most likely Ellie is immune because she is infected with a different species of fungi and said fungi was very protective over their host
Uh ok
she’s immune because she was born from an infected mother.
i would be screwed in any appocolypse since i use an electric wheelchair. as soon as the power went in my chair i would be immobile
👩🦼🧟🧟🧟
holy shit i never thought to think about disabled people (no offense) cuz we never get to see them in apocalyptic scenarios
I think about this a lot, my boyfriend is chronically ill and has an auto immune disease. Even if we survived the outbreak, found shelter and food... if he ran out of his medicine he would die. The zombie apocalypse would unfortunately take out a lot of disabled folk
@@Jack-ty4rcyour bf is a free sample
@@GregoryMcStevens lmaoo 😭 he says id be better zombie bait though
ellie is immune because she has a different strand of fungus that is preventing her infection, but hampers her immune system
Well fuck you, ya spoiling ass
aaaaaaaaaand no. The fungus in the game wouldve transmitted to riley, but we know she turned, so i dont really think so
@@theLOSTranger234 what
She is infected with a mutant fungus PLUS she has a genetic mutation in her brain. Both together make her immune. And that is why the Firefly doctor wanted Ellie's brain in a jar.
But it also means NO VACCINE. You can't make a vaccine that alters the DNA of a person's brain, except at the fetal level. Therefore it was completely unnecessary to kill Ellie to get at her DNA.
So, the game Part 3 needs some really clever writing to be believable.
@@bautispidey8864 I don’t think we saw what happened to Riley. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong. I think Riley might have ended it and Ellie kept going.
I just want to say, amazing editing in this video. especially the intro. such an improvement (not that the other videos are not good haha)
that intro was so good oh my god
hey btw for the record, there is more than one species of parasitic fungus. in fact, theres several genera of fungi that do more or less the same thing. taxonomic familes Entomophthoraceae, Rhizopodaceae and Cordycipitaceae all have dozens and dozens of species that do the thing. now you know
Don't expect someone with survival skills to show up and show you the way. This is the way. Clever.
I would die pretty quick in the post-apocalyptic world. Even if I was one of the (un)lucky ones to survive the initial disaster, I am far to confrontational and hard-headed I'd get myself killed in the first colony I found lol
glad your honest lmao i wouldnt either
I hope people don’t forget we can’t make a vaccine out of Ellie, that’s the reason the game and the show is called The Last of Us, humanity is already doomed, the game even hint to that fact with notes and recordings and the show even stated that at the beginning
The game also states that one can be infected by being bit by someone who is infected which means either Abby is also immune (because Ellie bit her in Seattle and she never turned by the time Abby got to California) or Eille can't infect anyone by biting them.
Considering the fact that she went full lesbo, the earth really is doomed lol
i would love to know how places like greenland or australia would be doing, if they closed flights early enough and controlled the food they would actually survive and go on without much damage i think
Lets go we are going to Nuuk in Greenland
greenland would be set i think. the cold would be a natural slow-down
@@mesproutcold would kill off infected
@@Filollisejmina also true. australia on the other hand would probably just need to wait for our wildlife to kill the Z's
@@mesprout they’re basically living they’re humans so the fungi will kill them
Fungal spores are actually wildly resistant to many forms of treatment . Droughts are no trouble for them(while they are an issues for the actual organism) and very resistant to chemical treatments. Its only a small stretch to say that it was durable enough to survive being cooked.
I hope you've been enjoying the HBO iteration of this series. I've been enjoying it really, latest episode is really good.
Nah man the Intro to this video was so good I loved it whoever edited it did great
Why I wouldn't survive: I would walk off a cliff as soon as I even saw someone who remotely looked like a zombie.
Why didn't you mention the risk of being Joel-in-oned?
That intro was 🔥 thanks for the amazing video
you’d also just have to Know that it’s the flour or wheat or whatever that spreads it, and i wonder if that news actually travelled quickly enough. people would stock up food when they left their homes or looted, and could very well end up getting infected weeks/months later by simply eating the wrong thing:( i bet there would’ve been at least one case somewhere of an entire quarantine location being poisoned because they unknowingly included infected food in the camp’s diet
edit - just got to the part where you talk about fresh crops potentially being infected, i hadn’t even considered that oooof
OK but the show reveals that Ellie's immunity is likely replicable, by having a pregnant woman infected before giving birth the baby would be immune and its brain could be used to create vaccines. AND it could be achieved voluntarily - eventually someone would take an admittedly pretty tough one for the team. The death of the "only doctor who could make a cure" is completely contrived; wouldn't he have made records of his research? And even if not, other scientists could probably figure it out through whatever process Abby's dad went through. And all that assumes that Ellie's birth was the only one of its kind, which statistically is unlikely.
You can't vaccinate fungi
I wonder what a zombie baby would do/ look like. Would they just sit lay there and go through the stages
That's horrifying to think about. But i think the baby would die and just become biomass for other infected to fuse with, such as with a rat king or a bloater. At least in the game's version of cordyceps.
Idk if the same goes for the HBO version tho. Maybe it becomes part of those wall tendril thingies
You should do Project: Zomboid Knox infection, it's a great game and can be really eerie.
Well I'm Australian so the gun thing wouldn't be an issue, I also live right next to the bush so we would probably go north coastal, the hardest thing would definitely be finding food with the lack of guns, however we have fishing rods so I guess I'd try that, you'd definitely want to be good friends with some indigenous Australians since they have hunted and foraged for thousands of years. But I do think the harsh conditions would get me before the fungus haha
There are plenty of guns in Australia.
@@baneofbanes not where I am
@@mickaylamaystrawberry6251 of youre in a rural area I assure you there are. That you just don’t know about them doesnt make that so.
@@baneofbanes North of the river perth I know a few farmers none of the ones I know have guns haha but all I'm saying is there will not be like a thousand people running around like idiots with guns, milk crates or frying pans maybe but not allot with guns.
@@mickaylamaystrawberry6251 just because you don’t know doesn’t make it so dude. There are millions of civilian owned guns in Australia, both legal and illegal. That’s not even getting into police and military arsenals, which in an apocalyptic scenario would be looted.
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
People who hate the show because of the spores thing, then they need to watch the movie The girl with all the gifts. It's a zombie movie where the virus is spread by spores. If spores got into the air then the last humans might as well end themselves because the spores would be EVERYWHERE. If we're talking about reality being a basis then there wouldn't just be areas with thick spores, but the spores would travel everywhere regardless. Masks wouldn't help, only sealing yourself away completely and even that is a stretch. The show makers have done their research and I'm grateful they made a story with accurate science and facts.
Exactly. If airborne spores caused infections, everyone would be dead long before the events of the last of us took place
Could easily written it that the spores lifespan and travel distance is astronomically small.
Logistics are the way this outbreak would fail. If it all flowed from a big flour plant in Jakarta you would see SE Asia go into anarchy first and not the whole world all at once. It takes weeks for ships to travel the oceans and days for goods to leave ports of entry. It's just impossible for it to hit grocery store shelves all over the world within a 24-48 hour period.
There is currently an Olympic team somewhere in the world that uses a cordyceps mushroom as a supplement in order to get more oxygen or something but the way they cultivate it or grow it is on caterpillars , it's only a matter of time
It’s in many health products and I have a tea that has some in it.
Plus do you know how much food products have wheat or gluten 90% you would have to grow and make everything you eat to avoid that
If we had a chance to stop this infection, I think one of the hardest challenges would be taking down fungal areas with spores. Like underground areas, the Cordyceps is literally everywhere. I think 60% of humanity was whipped out, according to the game. The show, I can’t remember if they had a statistic for it. I think another challenge would be taking down Bloaters. Bloaters require a little bit of attention and thinking to take down. Especially in part ii of the games and the remaster of TLOU part I. Bloaters are very weak fire to though. But bloaters are bloody ridiculous to fight now, I love it. I think any group that ran into a few bloaters, you would need to take em down fast and coordinate your attack. This would be a really hard to deal with, when you look other movies, games, scenarios, TLOU scenario is just wicked.
I've never played the Last of Us, but that intro was absolutely amazing
loving the new mic and wow its kinda stellar
I would walk around freely because there is only 1-2 infected maximum wherever you go (other than Kansas City).
The fact that the cordiceps are used as string on the body, makes me think that maybe the people is trap in there, in the horror
“Bite Me” - Wow such gaming and Uzi
The world in the show was toned down so much, literally have ellie commenting on how easy a 5 day trek was and that she didn't know "what tommy was so afraid of". I could totally survive in that world for a decent interval.
Hold up. If it only takes 5 to 15 Minutes to become fully Infected when you're bitten on the neck. Then how did Tess manage to last an hour after being bitten
It takes a day to get fully infected, but it probably depends on the person's immune system
@@sushilampa8287 good point
Infected and overtaken are different things.
Also, immune system difference
Now we just need a days gone tv show.
Plsssss
It wasn't until I heard the 94 degrees was kinda a fact that I've NEVER been more thankful for my thyroidectomy. I usually ran cold at 93.4 to 93.7. Anything higher was considered a low grade fever for me.
94 is too hot for the fungus not too cold, so you're at a disadvantage
Glad to hear that voice again sir. Missed ya. Good breakdown for the show.
The hate for Abby is ridiculous. She's an amazing character who's driving force is 100% logical and understandable. Ellie's hunt for Joel's killer is cheered, but Abby doing the same for her father is for some reason frowned upon....
Game did a bad job of making people sympathize with her.
Wait Joel gets killed 🤦🏾♂️
SPOILER
I'm sorry but this opinion is ridiculous, the game developers pulled out a plot point out of their ass with the second game and they killed off the main character in a way they thought would be the good type of shock factor, only to disappoint and piss off every actual fan, then they try to make you sympathize with her by playing her, worst most trash sequel.
@@mroutdaway216_5yes, don't bother playing or watching the gameplay
Tbh I'd game end myself if i managed to survive the initial outbreak. Its been shown/theorized that humans retain some consciousness in the earlier stages, and I'm not about to live like that
The original way it spread and worked was much better in the game but the show did do a good job
I'd go right to Arizona/New Mexico
I thought it was great huge fan of the game I'm happy with it can't wait for the next season
Someone with survival skills to “show you the way” 😂
1)Most people are out of breath after going up the stairs
2) how’s life without your medications?
So the Ellie being a mean thing game theory actually has a couple of really good vids on both why they Couldn't have made a cure Even if everything had gone their way and also a really good one on ellies Immunity.
Surviving any situation and how long in that situation you survive depends on how prepared you are to deal with that situation and not just learning how to scavenge for supplies or shooting and weaponry but what to do and how to survive once your supplies run out I know how to survive I was taught by my father just like he learned from his father before him and because I am a survivalist and a bushcrafter I think I would be just fine
In relation to the hive mind part, along with their body is deteriorating and becoming some sort of signal up to a mile away blah blah blah blah blah, I’m kind of curious why don’t they just burn the bodies they find? Granted what it probably still alert any infected up to a mile away, probably but at the same time it would help us stop the spread in some aspect right?? Or at least cripple the communication between all the infected within that mile radius of where you Burnt the corpse/fungus
Off topic, but I think the show does a good job of showing just how the infected act as a hive mind, whereas in the games, it seems mostly like small groups of infected. I understand that game levels can only have so much so that they don't make your console explode, but I think it would've been cool to see that and experience it.
24:32 I see what you did there. Daddy Pedro showing "the way" for the second time.
So glad you're uploading again brother, hope life is treating you well
You had so many moments to say The Last Of Us at the last second as a good play on words dAMWN BRuh I wish you did lol
Zombie still works for describing the infected as zombie can be defined as a will-less and speechless human.
I refuse to drink water that isn’t cold/ has a lot of ice in it so that’s probably what would kill me 😂
I'd not survive because I'd end me self before something else could.
I wonder this and in the game if animals could get infected as well?
Yes
When it comes to agriculture, if we dig a little deeper, we might be able to pinpoint the root cause to businesses that market biological pest control methods like fungi, as in this science fiction story, which began with wheat and spread from there. A small amount of spores wouldn't be all that dangerous, but if enough modified fungi (whose forced evolution was sparked) were intentionally spread throughout the wheat field, then enough spores could find their way to susceptible hosts (humans).
That's my only imagination beyond the fiction. 😊
I do wonder if pulling a ww1 and using chlorine gas would have any effect on the infected
Yeaaaaaah you don’t eff with David Attenborough, he’s a national treasure lol. He’s basically the UK’s Steve Irwin man 🤣
yeah that was my blunder lol
Idk about anyone else, but I think the Equator would be a good location to consider moving to.
the left 4 dead music in the backgroud 👌 perfect
Can all newborn babies be “immunised” (ie. entered into a symbiotic relationship with the fungus rather than a destructive one) at birth like Ellie, by introducing cordyceps to the umbilical cord?
Reminds me of that one movie also based off cordyceps where these infants ate their way out of their mom and became sort of a new species
I don't think all newborn babies could be made immune that way, but I'm sure many would, as it works on the same principles of (for instance) being more resistant to whatever flu virus was going around at the time of your birth to whatever extent.
Only issue is, I doubt many mothers would willingly get bit for the off-chance of creating an immune baby.
Then of course, the step of the mom being removed from her baby to avoid turning and killing the baby.
It might infect the mother and cause her to turn as it if it can cross the placental barrier to infect a fetus, it almost certainly can make do the reverse.
It's super unlikely that it would ever evolve to attack humans as it's niche is specific to one species, so far it can't even jump to another species of insect, it's only evolved to alter one insects brain function. That's not to say it never will but it apparently would take a heck of a lot of evolution specifically like said in the series it would struggle to survive in body temperature :)
Normal me: struggle to run
Infected me: Unlimited Stamina
Take your time and take care, we all want the next video. But would like you to avoid burn out.
FINALLY HES BACK AT IT AGAIN!
Bro that intro is better than the actual last of us intro like????
out of the slightly over 7 billion people on earth when the outbreak started, there has to be a few immune people aside from ellie
Why did the infected turn when the sun touch them? Did it harm them?
Yes, fungus hates light
Jeffery Dean Morgan should be playing Abbey
I like how you use the death screen music from Left 4 Dead when talking about the outbreak and spread.
Welcome back Wow Such Gaming.
What if you could raise a persons temp higher to like 100 would that kill it
you would also kill the person in the process
@@iamspam_ but the fungus would to right
@@gunman598 it probably would, but it would be really hard id imagine
Thought of the day the cordyceps fungus doesn’t effect the brain, feed on its host, or have any form of central hub of infection in its host meaning that an infected individual can survive almost any amount of injury and still attack, furthermore the host doesn’t need to be alive to be infected
Despite what he said the strain is shown to be the one I mentioned by the fact that it fills a host body, it goes to the head to stop the immune system
And because it doesn’t have the nervous system to deal with it will effect a dead host quicker
Also realistically speaking the fungus would probably hide itself under the skin and mimic your behavior to infect other people without being noticed
Seems pretty consistent that most people with knowledge of the game were very hesitant about something in the show. At least initially. I went so far as to wait till 5 episodes where out to watch it.
"Why you wouldn't survive an apocalypse"
Me: Yea no shit
I wonder if several decades later the fungus issue somehow will be solved and will become some kind of cure for all type of diseases and also, improves human condition and give it super strength and powers haha all this time the humanity was just summited to a purgatory
ive been waitin for this one bud
Thats SIR David Attenborough to you
I dont have HBO, but heard abt this. Thanks so much for this bc now i feel like I'm watching it. I had not even know abt the vid game. Oh, i would immediately become infected. I not only am a wuss, I cannot resist carbs.
that’s was such a cool intro
Wow, somehow I hate this method of passive transmission more than just spores! Fantastic!
I missed your channel so much!!!
My problem with removing the spores is they never had a moment that proved Ellie was immune, in the game he still didn’t believe her he was more doing it for Tess but what proved it for him was her breathing spores without coughing in the subway. Joel just trusts the bite mark instantly in the show.
Why you wouldn't survive invincible's viltrumite invasion ?
Why you wouldn't survive Doctor who's cybermen invasion ?
Why wouldn't survive Roswell conspiracies aliens myths and legends universe ?
First one is pretty obvious. No weaknesses that humans can exploit == instant loss.
between the runner and the clicker there is a stage called Stalkers
Nice to hear from you again with new vids and I notice you look like you’ve gained wait
nah, i'd win
Thanks for using the L4D soundtrack too
Part 1 is a masterpiece
You're damn right i wouldn't. Walking dead zombies are enough for me.
I’m reality most of us are dying from some panicking soccer mom plowing through us with her van