What everyone doesn't notice... he's not mocking him entirely. He's repeating the steps that Ringo did. And the reason Ringo is stunned unlike Wild Bill who looks more annoyed at first... Ringo realizes Doc is drunk off his ass, clearly in bad health... but can repeat the move set that Ringo did with no struggle. Not to mention, it also revealed Ringo's draw speed. Doc watches, he doesn't appear offended or intimidated while Ringo does his thing: he watches. He realizes he can handle his speed which is why later, Doc knows Wyatt can't beat him but he can, even in his bad health. It's why when Ringo walks away, he offers a hint of a smirk. It wasn't "ha ha smart ass" it was more realizing he got outplayed. He was showing off because he figured the lunger was easy prey. Hence why later when Doc shows up for the duel... he's scared because he knows Doc is still that DOC.
This scene is beautiful for two reasons. You put up the literal translation, which is fine, of course, but the contemporary translation gives it sense. "In wine, there is truth" = "I'm honest when I'm drunk." "Do well, whatever you do" = "That's all you're good for." "Tell it to someone else, not I" = "Talk to someone who cares." "Youth is the teacher of fools" = "I can teach you a lesson." "Rest in peace" = "It's your funeral." The second is the gunmanship. Kudos to the director for his "show, don't tell" behind the story here. The reason why Ringo isn't laughing isn't because he's being mocked. If you look closely, despite being completely plastered and sick (and therefore 'should' have no coordination), Doc does NOT drop the cup, and more importantly, he matched Ringo move-for-move. Ringo knew this and just personally verified that Doc was someone to watch out for.
Also Ringo uses his own gun which he is undoubtedly very familiar with and has practiced with often. Doc just uses a random cup he has never seen before.
@@88wildcat Doc was wearing his pistols, as he always done. Ringo would have identified them long before. Nah, the cup was interesting because it doesn't matter what was in his hand or what state he was in: The man had skill bordering on magic.
@@LuxDragon What I am saying is that Ringo was using an object he was very famiiiar with in terms of weight, feel, and balance to demonstrate his hand-eye coordination skills. Doc wasn't and his skills were still a level above Ringo. I don't think Ringo was unaware of that little detail and it gave him another thing to figure into the equation. If Doc is that good with objects he just happens to pick up, then how good is he with his own guns?
@@wybub He was an interesting character. Had his own demons, was never an angel. His 2nd common-law or reputed wife was a madam in Wichita Kansas and it's rumored he pimped in her brothel. I have the idea that it was more like a gang/turf war that happened in Tombstone, it's just that the Earps had the law on their side. Things were pretty grey in the Wild West during the gold and silver booms.
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While Johnny Ringo's tricks were pretty damn cool, the fact that Doc Holliday's tricks were done with a metal cup is even more impressive. BTW, I am a big fan of this movie. Would love to see the "No" scene.
In this scene while everyone is laughing at Doc's display with the cup, Ringo is watching Doc mimic his every move, as in he just watched Ringo perform with his pistol and Doc didn't miss a single motion, but copied it down, and repeated everything. It's why Ringo isn't laughing.
Seeing all the mixed reactions to Ringo’s trick, and then everyone cracking up at Doc Holiday with the cup was perfectly done. 😂 Could this mean we’ll be seeing your version of their final showdown too?
The crazy thing about Doc twirling his cup at Ringo was that he was showing him that A) he could match every move he made B) he was a worthy equal that should not be messed with. Game recognizes game.
Part of what Doc did there was lost on a lot of people, but not on Ringo. Doc was paying attention and then he duplicated with the cup exactly what Ringo did with the pistol. Old Doc was a baaaad man! Really nice job putting this video together. The translations and the pics of the real people were a great addition. Thanks!
Doc isn’t mocking him. He’s staring him down and never breaking eye contact and he mimicked each single twirl. He showed Ringo he observed every detail.
Yeah ok, but he's still mocking him. He's showing that he's not afraid of Ringo's fancy moves because he knows that he's faster than him. When they finally have their little showdown Holiday is the faster draw and when he kills Ringo he says to him "you're no daisy".
@@jackgrimaldi8685 I wouldn't say it's outright mocking. I think it's more like I'm not tipping my hand but giving a glimpse. Ringo dropped his drawers which was a fatal mistake.
Doc was outright mocking him but he was also showing Ringo that he had hands as well, Doc was known for taunting people he thought it would get him killed faster than the consumption was
How Val Kilmer wasn’t even nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his role as Doc Holliday that year I’ll never understand. He gave what is, in my opinion, one of the most memorable performances in film history as Doc. He had so many iconic and quotable lines. There’s not many characters in film where almost all of their lines throughout the film are instantly recognizable by nearly everyone that hears it.
The nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards were: Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive" Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List" John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire" Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father" Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List"; Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way"; Gary Oldman as Drexl Spivey, Christopher Walken as Vincenzo Coccotti, & Dennis Hopper as Clifford Worley in "True Romance"; etc... Common criticisms: Jones - "He was just playing himself." Back in the early 90s, that style of acting wasn't typical of him yet. Fiennes - "Too one-dimensional." Those people exist in real life. Malkovich - "Plenty of more iconic villain performances in that decade." He wasn't competing w/ most of them. DiCaprio - "Playing disabled characters is typical Oscar bait." Some attendees were apparently surprised that he wasn't actually disabled. Postlethwaite - "Very few people even recall his performance." Likely due to the film being less popular. Kilmer - "He was just in his own world while the rest of the cast were actually on the same page." Would the movie be better w/o him? Kingsley - "Not as inventive or risky as most of the other choices." Subtlety is an art form. Penn - "Changing his appearance makes it seem like his acting is more chameleonic than it is." All actors utilize what's given to them. Oldman - "Merely chewed the scenery." This role is often compared to Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow, which got a nomination. Walken - "Only in one scene." Still more screen time than Beatrice Straight's win for Network. Hopper - "Remembered due to the great dialogue." Imagine Tommy Wiseau delivering the same lines.
I recognized the Latin immediately. My older sister graduated from high school in 1981. She took Latin, as well as shorthand in high school. Times sure have changed. They even did by the early '90s, those 2 classes weren't available anymore.
Great casting, great ensemble cast, Great Performances, great costuming. I totally get lost in the story, and forget it's Stephen Lang, Powers Boothe, Michael biehn, to name a few. And Stephen Lang's line ......"savvy ?" 😂 ( "savvy" used similarly in Get Shorty) love it, otherwise we don't hear this word used anymore. I'll bet you a sawbuck you haven't heard anyone say savvy lately😁
Hope you do the reaction mashup of the "you gonna do something about it, or are you just gonna stand there and bleed" scene? That was a cold ass scene/line!
Ringo called Doc out by showing him up (not just showing off) and if Doc had pulled his pistol to just mimic Ringo, there would have been a shootout as soon as he touched his gun. But if he didn’t respond he would have showed to be a coward and backing down. That’s why spinning the cup was so clever
I have the feeling Ringo was the bastard son of Doc Holliday lol think about it...."There's just somethin about him....somethin round the eyes....reminds me of ME"
I don't think anything official you have heard of Harry Carey jr or and Robert mitchum ? And in real life there was a earp family member in the movie he played a cowboy i think
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Thanks for including pics of the real people, that's dope AF 😎
And the Latin translations were very nice as well!
Thank Tom Castro too, it was his suggestion!
@@YoureMrLebowski Thanks Tom Castro, excellent suggestion 👍
Yes and the Latin translation. My early Catholic altar boy days are fuzzy..lol..I did get the wine line, that's it. lol
@@orangeandblackattack the wine quote has entered pip culture 😉
That was great!
Adding some text here and there, the portraits of the actual people and including the latin subtitles was a fantastic call! 👌
One of the absolute finest ensemble casts I've ever seen in a movie.
What everyone doesn't notice... he's not mocking him entirely. He's repeating the steps that Ringo did. And the reason Ringo is stunned unlike Wild Bill who looks more annoyed at first... Ringo realizes Doc is drunk off his ass, clearly in bad health... but can repeat the move set that Ringo did with no struggle. Not to mention, it also revealed Ringo's draw speed. Doc watches, he doesn't appear offended or intimidated while Ringo does his thing: he watches. He realizes he can handle his speed which is why later, Doc knows Wyatt can't beat him but he can, even in his bad health. It's why when Ringo walks away, he offers a hint of a smirk. It wasn't "ha ha smart ass" it was more realizing he got outplayed. He was showing off because he figured the lunger was easy prey. Hence why later when Doc shows up for the duel... he's scared because he knows Doc is still that DOC.
Just when I don't think you can top yourself, you top yourself. EXCELLENT one, sir.
This scene is beautiful for two reasons.
You put up the literal translation, which is fine, of course, but the contemporary translation gives it sense.
"In wine, there is truth" = "I'm honest when I'm drunk."
"Do well, whatever you do" = "That's all you're good for."
"Tell it to someone else, not I" = "Talk to someone who cares."
"Youth is the teacher of fools" = "I can teach you a lesson."
"Rest in peace" = "It's your funeral."
The second is the gunmanship. Kudos to the director for his "show, don't tell" behind the story here. The reason why Ringo isn't laughing isn't because he's being mocked. If you look closely, despite being completely plastered and sick (and therefore 'should' have no coordination), Doc does NOT drop the cup, and more importantly, he matched Ringo move-for-move. Ringo knew this and just personally verified that Doc was someone to watch out for.
Ringo also gave away how fast he can pull a pistol so in their show down later in the movie Doc had the advantage.
@@suflanker45I was wondering if someone was going to point that out. 👍
Also Ringo uses his own gun which he is undoubtedly very familiar with and has practiced with often. Doc just uses a random cup he has never seen before.
@@88wildcat Doc was wearing his pistols, as he always done. Ringo would have identified them long before. Nah, the cup was interesting because it doesn't matter what was in his hand or what state he was in: The man had skill bordering on magic.
@@LuxDragon What I am saying is that Ringo was using an object he was very famiiiar with in terms of weight, feel, and balance to demonstrate his hand-eye coordination skills. Doc wasn't and his skills were still a level above Ringo. I don't think Ringo was unaware of that little detail and it gave him another thing to figure into the equation. If Doc is that good with objects he just happens to pick up, then how good is he with his own guns?
The notes and old photos was very nice.
Nice touch with the photos
One of the few times in the movie Wyatt Earp genuinely smiles
More Doc Holiday is always a good thing!
It’s uncanny how much Russell looks like the real Earp
Legend has it that Wyatt Earp Mustache is so masculine , it got 3 women pregnant
And he captures the real man's reported stoicism and emotional range perfectly.
@@wybub He was an interesting character. Had his own demons, was never an angel. His 2nd common-law or reputed wife was a madam in Wichita Kansas and it's rumored he pimped in her brothel. I have the idea that it was more like a gang/turf war that happened in Tombstone, it's just that the Earps had the law on their side. Things were pretty grey in the Wild West during the gold and silver booms.
Such a great video. Well edited and it just flows so well
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thank you, appreciated!
Great remix with excellent little touches of history to explain the relevant characters.
Great scene to choose. Thanks!
One of the better films that was done. Well done & thank you!
thanks for the translation and the inside scoops. great channel. great movie. thank you
While Johnny Ringo's tricks were pretty damn cool, the fact that Doc Holliday's tricks were done with a metal cup is even more impressive.
BTW, I am a big fan of this movie. Would love to see the "No" scene.
This was excellent! From the subtitles to the pictures of the real people, you clearly put some effort into this. - Thomas
thanks for taking a moment to leave your comment. it's appreciated.
You’re amazing at putting these together, THE BEST!
thank you, i appreciate it.
In this scene while everyone is laughing at Doc's display with the cup, Ringo is watching Doc mimic his every move, as in he just watched Ringo perform with his pistol and Doc didn't miss a single motion, but copied it down, and repeated everything. It's why Ringo isn't laughing.
Seeing all the mixed reactions to Ringo’s trick, and then everyone cracking up at Doc Holiday with the cup was perfectly done. 😂
Could this mean we’ll be seeing your version of their final showdown too?
Yes, but the when is unknown.
Love the pics, trivia and Latin translations. Great touch.
The crazy thing about Doc twirling his cup at Ringo was that he was showing him that A) he could match every move he made B) he was a worthy equal that should not be messed with.
Game recognizes game.
Part of what Doc did there was lost on a lot of people, but not on Ringo. Doc was paying attention and then he duplicated with the cup exactly what Ringo did with the pistol. Old Doc was a baaaad man! Really nice job putting this video together. The translations and the pics of the real people were a great addition. Thanks!
My favorite scene from the movie.
Doc isn’t mocking him. He’s staring him down and never breaking eye contact and he mimicked each single twirl. He showed Ringo he observed every detail.
Yeah ok, but he's still mocking him. He's showing that he's not afraid of Ringo's fancy moves because he knows that he's faster than him. When they finally have their little showdown Holiday is the faster draw and when he kills Ringo he says to him "you're no daisy".
@ yeah that’s fair. I guess he’s mocking him but also showing him he’s better and not scared of him.
@@jackgrimaldi8685 I wouldn't say it's outright mocking. I think it's more like I'm not tipping my hand but giving a glimpse. Ringo dropped his drawers which was a fatal mistake.
Doc was outright mocking him but he was also showing Ringo that he had hands as well, Doc was known for taunting people he thought it would get him killed faster than the consumption was
How Val Kilmer wasn’t even nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his role as Doc Holliday that year I’ll never understand. He gave what is, in my opinion, one of the most memorable performances in film history as Doc. He had so many iconic and quotable lines. There’s not many characters in film where almost all of their lines throughout the film are instantly recognizable by nearly everyone that hears it.
The nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards were:
Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive"
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Göth in "Schindler's List"
John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire"
Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"
Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father"
Other snubs include Ben Kingsley as Itzhak Stern in "Schindler's List"; Sean Penn as David Kleinfeld in "Carlito's Way"; Gary Oldman as Drexl Spivey, Christopher Walken as Vincenzo Coccotti, & Dennis Hopper as Clifford Worley in "True Romance"; etc...
Common criticisms:
Jones - "He was just playing himself." Back in the early 90s, that style of acting wasn't typical of him yet.
Fiennes - "Too one-dimensional." Those people exist in real life.
Malkovich - "Plenty of more iconic villain performances in that decade." He wasn't competing w/ most of them.
DiCaprio - "Playing disabled characters is typical Oscar bait." Some attendees were apparently surprised that he wasn't actually disabled.
Postlethwaite - "Very few people even recall his performance." Likely due to the film being less popular.
Kilmer - "He was just in his own world while the rest of the cast were actually on the same page." Would the movie be better w/o him?
Kingsley - "Not as inventive or risky as most of the other choices." Subtlety is an art form.
Penn - "Changing his appearance makes it seem like his acting is more chameleonic than it is." All actors utilize what's given to them.
Oldman - "Merely chewed the scenery." This role is often compared to Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow, which got a nomination.
Walken - "Only in one scene." Still more screen time than Beatrice Straight's win for Network.
Hopper - "Remembered due to the great dialogue." Imagine Tommy Wiseau delivering the same lines.
Thanks for putting the Latin translation on the screen
I recognized the Latin immediately. My older sister graduated from high school in 1981. She took Latin, as well as shorthand in high school. Times sure have changed. They even did by the early '90s, those 2 classes weren't available anymore.
If it makes you feel any better I took four years of Latin in High School... in the 1990s.
This video was very well done. Thank you for making it.
Great casting, great ensemble cast, Great Performances, great costuming. I totally get lost in the story, and forget it's Stephen Lang, Powers Boothe, Michael biehn, to name a few. And Stephen Lang's line ......"savvy ?" 😂 ( "savvy" used similarly in Get Shorty) love it, otherwise we don't hear this word used anymore. I'll bet you a sawbuck you haven't heard anyone say savvy lately😁
What made Doc so deadly is he was dying, no cure for TB, no hope. Had no family- closest to him was Wyatt. He had nothing to lose so he had no fear.
Hope you do the reaction mashup of the "you gonna do something about it, or are you just gonna stand there and bleed" scene?
That was a cold ass scene/line!
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Ringo called Doc out by showing him up (not just showing off) and if Doc had pulled his pistol to just mimic Ringo, there would have been a shootout as soon as he touched his gun. But if he didn’t respond he would have showed to be a coward and backing down. That’s why spinning the cup was so clever
...it only now occurs to me that Doc just won a gunfight with a tin cup
Holliday studied to be a dentist, but became too ill to ever practice.
Might explain his "educated man" quip at Ringo.
Nice Reactions Everyone 😊,Nice
Anyone else have this on their bucket list?
Going to some random bar, throw a whole wad of bills, and screaming "Drinks on me!"
Not bad for a dentist from Alabama
Georgia
Fun fact, Ringo wasn’t educated.
This movie freaking rules. I gotta watch it again 🤟🏽
'bout dang time pardner... 🤠
3:26 You'll have to try a little harder to punk my man here...
Awesome video.
Very nice 👌
Nice presentation all around
The best ✌️
Well, I think they established that it's "real good." LOL
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i thank you. and the algorithm thanks you. 🙏🏼
Well done edit. Keep it up. How about a scene from Top Secret.
She 8s an actress, she does not care if he is married. In real life she stayed married to Wyatt until the day she died.
I have the feeling Ringo was the bastard son of Doc Holliday lol think about it...."There's just somethin about him....somethin round the eyes....reminds me of ME"
Best Western imo
Harry carey jr
All those trick don't mean shit in a gunfight.
I don't think anything official you have heard of Harry Carey jr or and Robert mitchum ? And in real life there was a earp family member in the movie he played a cowboy i think
Indiana Jones would've just shot both of them.
Doc
I’m early bro