RadioMaster MT12 Surface Radio - ELRS, EdgeTX, & More!!

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @CapeCrawlers
    @CapeCrawlers  Год назад +2

    Timestamps
    First look and key features: 0:33
    Receiver: 6:28
    Demonstrations: 7:19
    Final thoughts: 14:58

  • @evilgeniusfpv4098
    @evilgeniusfpv4098 Год назад +3

    That's the beauty of edgetx. You can set up proportional rear steer on the mixer screen!!! Just turn the wheel and both axles react accordingly

  • @tastenheber
    @tastenheber Год назад +2

    This is long time overdue! Finally I can use one good radio für most of my surface stuff. There's nothing better than a open source firmware for stuff like this, because it's actually does what the users want, not what the manufacturer allows. This will put a lot of pressure on the competitors! Serves them right!

  • @pfeerick
    @pfeerick Год назад +2

    Great review mate. First time viewer of your channel (I came because of the MT12 review by an RC car (rather than air) guy), and now I'm going to have to look at some of your other videos as that Vanquish sure looks interesting...

    • @CapeCrawlers
      @CapeCrawlers  Год назад +1

      Thank you! The vanquish is a beast

  • @mopatop3921
    @mopatop3921 Год назад +3

    Hold down SYS to get to the system menu, choose ExpressLRS and then you can set your packet rate and other parameters in there.

  • @seewell8168
    @seewell8168 Год назад +4

    I mainly fly quads and ELRS, EdgeTX were huge disruptors in that hobby, in an amazing way for consumers.

  • @flyingclint589
    @flyingclint589 Год назад +1

    This is great! Thanks for the great review. You sold me. I just ordered mine. I’ve been looking to get away from the spektrum radios. I hate the interface and layout.
    Looking forward to this radio! 🤘🏻

  • @SnoMoJoe1
    @SnoMoJoe1 Год назад +4

    So very cool!.....I use a RadioMaster Tx16S as my go to air radio and I love it. I have been hoping and waiting for them to come out with a ground radio. Yahoo!😀

  • @rcjoe406
    @rcjoe406 Год назад +2

    This radio is a transformer from a future planet 😊

  • @RadioMasterRC
    @RadioMasterRC Год назад +4

    Great video! glad your "diggin" the MT12 😎

    • @CapeCrawlers
      @CapeCrawlers  Год назад +1

      It’s an amazing radio, thank you!

  • @WebRC2023
    @WebRC2023 10 месяцев назад

    Great video. Love the review. Perhaps a little deeper dive on the programming side of it would help a bunch of us!

  • @hughjanus5518
    @hughjanus5518 9 месяцев назад

    Gotta love how the stickers are for the tx16

  • @brianchambers1515
    @brianchambers1515 Год назад +1

    I see some screw spots on the radio can't wait for the handle to come out and or other accessories

  • @DrDiff952
    @DrDiff952 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have the 4 in 1cbunds perfectly with my first gen scx24. Have my ELRS MODULE comming tuesday

    • @soflyfpv
      @soflyfpv Месяц назад

      exactly what i am doing i did the same with my tx16s. you get the best of both worlds. the 4in1 built in for all the RTRs and express LRS module for the top as well as crossfire etc if you want thats the beauty of the module bay up top

  • @bsr3280
    @bsr3280 11 месяцев назад

    Can not wait for the touch screen!!!!

  • @teamfusionracing
    @teamfusionracing Год назад

    Can you do a video walking through the process to set up a new model and program things like steering epa trims?

  • @davidlee50
    @davidlee50 Год назад +1

    I tried to contact Radiomaster but they have not replied yet, thanks.

  • @timmyd463229
    @timmyd463229 Год назад +1

    Does the throttle and steering seem smoother than other radios and more accurate with the hall sensors? When i used to rwce drones and put hall sensor gimbals in my frsky it was super nice. Also when more people start using this transmitter its going to be the future just like in fpv facing and freestyle

    • @CapeCrawlers
      @CapeCrawlers  Год назад +1

      I feel like it’s smooth and ultra responsive.

    • @timmyd463229
      @timmyd463229 Год назад +1

      ​@@CapeCrawlersI plan to waterproof the receiver. Any chance you took the case off of the receiver to see what the built in antenna looks like? I wonder if it will damage anything with waterproofing

  • @tsenif
    @tsenif Год назад

    That is incredible.

  • @TommyMartinMSRRC
    @TommyMartinMSRRC Год назад +2

    Hey have you try to bind the radiomaster to a spectrum DSMR receiver???

    • @TommyMartinMSRRC
      @TommyMartinMSRRC Год назад +1

      IT Will Not bind with Spektrum DSMR They said

    • @bugman72
      @bugman72 Год назад +2

      @@TommyMartinMSRRC I'm pretty sure that if you get the 4-in-1 version of this radio (or the 4-in-1 module), it will bind with DSMR.

    • @TommyMartinMSRRC
      @TommyMartinMSRRC Год назад

      @@bugman72 well I let you know after the first of the year because my wife order me one and going to get the 4 in 1 I don’t really care about the one with ELRS distance. Thanks

    • @bugman72
      @bugman72 Год назад +1

      @@TommyMartinMSRRC mine is supposed to be delivered this Saturday, so I'll try it out next week and post back here.

    • @soflyfpv
      @soflyfpv Месяц назад +1

      it does bind if you have the 4in1 version my radiomaster tx16s with the 4in1 binds to DSMR and its the same 4in1 module built in. I suggest against getting ELRS version if you get the 4in1 version you can just buy the expressLRS nano module for the top bay and than you have both thats what i did with my tx16s plus you can put any other module as well like crossfire etc.

  • @fc1133
    @fc1133 Год назад

    Hello. I recognize that the choice of a radio depends on individual preferences and specific needs. Despite watching several videos about this radio, I've noticed a common theme where they fall short in truly elucidating its uniqueness. Thumbnails often boast phrases like "Best Surface Radio Ever" or "Game Changer," yet the content tends to highlight features without delving into their significance or why they are considered groundbreaking.
    For instance, many mention "EdgeTX," but the videos rarely expound on what this feature entails and how it contributes to the radio's distinction. This situation reminds me of my previous experience with the Taranis X9D, which was also touted "open source" but ultimately offered only marginal advantages over my Futaba 14MZ.
    I then switched to the Radiomaster TX16s, only to find it lacking in standout features. Now, I've acquired the MT12, and I'm questioning its uniqueness. The primary reason I opted for it was the Multi Module. Regrettably, it has limitations, supporting only one TRAXXAS receiver and no LOSI receivers, at least for now.
    Speaking of the Multi-Module, it seems to be the sole standout feature across these radios. I appreciate your insights on this matter.

    • @teamfusionracing
      @teamfusionracing Год назад +1

      I got it to bind to one of my old DSM receivers. The more I learn about the radio and edgetx..... I'm not surprised because there is so much confusion about what works, what protocols to use etc. How stupid is this.... the protocols list for DSM.... has DSM2, DSMX, DSMR (and radiomaster says it doesn't work for DSMR, but it does). Nothing is listed for DSM1... the old original spektrum system. So I figured I was out of luck for all my old spektrum rxs. But then I saw the LOSI protocol for an old Losi system lsr-3000, which looked like it was probably the old DSM1. Guess what....got the MT12 to bind to an old Spektrum sr-3000 using the LOSI protocol. But it only worked when I had the radio actually touching the receiver. So why is that information not known and provided.... by Radiomaster or the Edgetx community? Maybe it is... and I'm the only one who hasn't seen it

    • @fc1133
      @fc1133 Год назад +1

      ​@@teamfusionracing Merry Christmas! I completely understand your perspective. The documentation could certainly be improved, and it might have been wiser for them to delay the release by a few more weeks or months. This is especially true considering that there wasn't much anticipation or expectation for a surface radio from Radiomaster initially. I acknowledge that there's a multitude of protocols for aircraft, but the situation is different for cars. It would have been better if they ensured coverage for the main protocols, or at the very least, verified compatibility with those that are commonly used. I conducted a ChatGPT search, and the results indicate that some devices use the same protocol, suggesting that they should have ensured compatibility with those to enhance user experience.
      Certainly, I value the open-source initiative and all, but a bit of constructive criticism wouldn't hurt, if you ask me.
      Spektrum: Protocol: DSMX (Digital Spectrum Modulation) and DSM2 are the primary protocols used by Spektrum.
      Futaba: Protocol: Futaba uses its own FASST (Futaba Advanced Spread Spectrum Technology) protocol.
      Traxxas: Protocol: Traxxas uses a proprietary 2.4GHz protocol for its radio systems.
      Flysky: Protocol: AFHDS (Automatic Frequency Hopping Digital System) is a common protocol used by Flysky.
      Tactic (Hobbico): Protocol: Tactic typically uses the SLT (Secure Link Technology) protocol.
      Hitec: Protocol: Hitec uses its own 2.4GHz AFHSS (Adaptive Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum) protocol.
      Sanwa / Airtronics: Protocol: Sanwa and Airtronics use the FHSS (Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum) protocol.
      Kyosho: Protocol: Kyosho uses various protocols, and it can depend on the specific model. Some models use the KT-231P 2.4GHz FHSS protocol.
      Arrma (Horizon Hobby): Protocol: Arrma models often include Spektrum receivers and use DSMX or DSM2 protocols.
      Redcat Racing: Protocol: Redcat Racing uses 2.4GHz protocols, and the specific protocol may vary by model.
      Associated (Team Associated): Protocol: Associated often uses the 2.4GHz FHSS protocol for its radio systems.

    • @cazadon
      @cazadon 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@fc1133the mulit module project is a one person operation they just reverse enginger how the proticals work and use the 4 most used chips to get the 4 in 1

    • @fc1133
      @fc1133 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@cazadon I regret not being aware of this earlier. As I mentioned earlier, I purchased the radio with the assumption that it would be compatible with Traxxas, but unfortunately, it isn't. Moreover, the efforts to make it compatible are dragging on for an extended period. While I understand the person assisting me is doing their best, it doesn't alleviate my frustration much.

  • @keldonator
    @keldonator Год назад +1

    Is there a center detent on the potentiometers used for 4ws?

    • @malte9999
      @malte9999 Год назад +2

      Yes

    • @pfeerick
      @pfeerick Год назад +2

      Both pots have center detents.

  • @bitogre
    @bitogre Год назад

    I want to know if this (with the 4-in-1 module) will work with the Losi Promoto mx 1/4-scale motorcycle and, if so, how you would need to program it for that RC motorcycle. It would also be interesting to see if this motor cycle will work as well with a ELRS receiver but I doubt it as the receiver provides some stabilization functionality.

  • @ralphmcmahan2139
    @ralphmcmahan2139 Год назад

    I like the lanyard, a lot. Mostly you know because I drop stuff.

  • @godsun358
    @godsun358 Год назад

    I have my MT12 bound to my serpent nitro buggy and I can't trim the throttle, steering trim works on 2 switches. How can I trim both steering and throttle ?

  • @ramonmejias2178
    @ramonmejias2178 Год назад +1

    Hi I only have fms trucks which one of the mt12 radios would you recommend that I can use with the fms recievers

    • @CapeCrawlers
      @CapeCrawlers  Год назад +2

      You would want the 4-1 if you plan to use with other receivers. I’m not positive the FMS receivers are compatible though

    • @ramonmejias2178
      @ramonmejias2178 Год назад +1

      Ok thanks

  • @erniequintana2683
    @erniequintana2683 9 месяцев назад

    Would you know how to bind the MT12 to a stock trx4m ESC I am ha I g trouble getting it to work. Any help would be appreciated. Love the channel

  • @HHxRC
    @HHxRC Год назад

    I'm sold.

  • @DrDiff952
    @DrDiff952 10 месяцев назад

    I want to bind it to the AE-6 in my Injora nylon rock buggy SCX24

  • @RockGoatRC-ql1my
    @RockGoatRC-ql1my Год назад +1

    Hey thanks for the video…does it support MOA dual esc crawlers ?

    • @CapeCrawlers
      @CapeCrawlers  Год назад +4

      I have to think it does. The mixing functions are very customizable. You can add multiple channels to a particular function. I know because at one point I accidentally had the steering and throttle going simultaneously with the steering wheel 😆 So I would imagine if done correctly you could run dual escs

    • @RockGoatRC-ql1my
      @RockGoatRC-ql1my Год назад +1

      @@CapeCrawlers thanks man! Appreciate your answer and all your efforts on video content 😊🙏

    • @pfeerick
      @pfeerick Год назад +3

      If you can plug it into a receiver port, you can control it. ;) You can assign the same input (i.e. wheel, throttle, switch) to any channel (mixer). And it doesn't even have to act the same for each channel (i.e. one channel might be reversed, or have different rates, expo, etc than the other)... the possibilities are endless...

  • @ramonmejias2178
    @ramonmejias2178 Год назад

    Have you bind it to any of your fms trucks I really need your help with this thank you

    • @CapeCrawlers
      @CapeCrawlers  Год назад

      I have not. I’ve been using it with the radio master receivers only

  • @Best_catchphrase
    @Best_catchphrase Год назад +1

    I’ve been looking for a radio that can replace the many radios I have sitting around. Most are Traxxas but a couple spectrum units as well.
    What I’m really interested in is the 4 in 1 module since they list Traxxas as a compatible receiver that it can bind with.
    Have you or anyone actually bonded to Traxxas receivers and find that it works? Cause I’m about to click the “Buy” button now lol

    • @donaldsneffe
      @donaldsneffe Год назад +1

      Nobody gets this - you are one of the few ones. Adam did also not get it - ELRS? Cool - but for a Crawler? Only if you wanna do long range FPV, and for racers because of the speed.
      So sad, watched _all_ YT video reviews of this radio out so far - and not a single reviewer talked about the 4-in-1 and to what protocols it could bind, not even tried.
      Thought Adam, micro crawler guy, would do it. But he did not get it either, recommends ELRS... what a bummer. For the audience of Cape Crawlers 4-in-1 is the thing, and not ELRS.
      Hope soon a truck (Micro crawler) guy with a bit of knowledge of this will get this radio
      So far all reviews are more than disappointing - no news you would not get from description.

    • @CDRaff
      @CDRaff Год назад +3

      There hasn't really been a reason for the Multi devs to work on compatibility with surface radios because of AFAIK there has never been a surface radio with Multi support. That's a long way of saying that it doesn't really support that many proprietary surface radio protocols. That being said it wouldn't surprise me if the Multi devs are excited to have a whole new world of protocols to hack, and Multi modules are super easy to update so there may be more support soon. Which might be a boon since RadioMaster loves to release premium versions of their radios about 6 months after release. So waiting might not be a bad choice here not only to see how Multi support goes with surface protocols, but to also see if RadioMaster follows their usual MO and releases something like a "MT12 Max" that has decent QOL features as well as having hardware like the buttons(and possibly trigger and wheel) upgraded with CNC metal parts.

    • @bugman72
      @bugman72 Год назад +2

      @@donaldsneffe I came here to say basically the same thing. The 4-in-1 module is where it's at, IMHO. Being able to bind to many different RTR receivers is key. The fact that you may not have to buy a receiver for the new vehicle you just bought is a BIG deal. Just bought a new Axial, you should be able to bind it to this radio. New Traxxas? Bind it to this radio. Kyosho Mini-Z? Bind it to this radio. Having previously modded a Devo 7E with additional RF modules and running an open-source OS (Devention), I know of the HUGE benefit to having a multi-protocol radio. This is what has been needed in the surface market for a LONG time.

    • @bugman72
      @bugman72 Год назад

      @@CDRaff There are already a multitude of protocols that surface vehicles use that are supported with EdgeTX and thus with the MT12. Traxxas, Spektrum (DSM), Flysky, FrSky, Kyosho, Futaba, etc. The key to this radio is the ability for it to bind to a surface vehicle's OEM receiver. I would be surprised if most, if not all, of the major players in surface vehicles already have their RF protocols covered by this radio and EdgeTX. I can't confirm yet because sadly I don't have one in my hands yet. But as soon as I do, I plan to get with my LHS's owner and we're going to go through all of the brands he carries to see what does and what does not (for now) bind to this radio.

    • @donaldsneffe
      @donaldsneffe Год назад

      @@bugman72 ... but unfortunately will not work (at least not for SCX24 v2 and all FMS/Hobby Plus trucks). Curious if it will work with TRX-4M and (3 different?) Mini-Z. Mine is on the way, should arrive soon...

  • @ethrrr
    @ethrrr Год назад

    Noble looks very cool, Futaba...just for the name is very cool, Sanwa too. They are legends. But..this radio is like the Tesla. I hate myself for making this silly comparison ;D

  • @bsr3280
    @bsr3280 11 месяцев назад

    Edgetx. & Express Long Range system .

  • @mikesyr
    @mikesyr Год назад

    I have the NB4, besides looking a bit more polished and having ui/screen to match, I can't think of anything that it does better functionality wise. One thing is for sure, the RadioMaster receivers are cheaper.

    • @donaldsneffe
      @donaldsneffe Год назад +1

      I have a NB4 and a Noble Pro - but the big difference is: You will have to buy the 4-in-1 version (NOT as he said the ELRS version!) and it will bind to a ton of your protocols, you can use one radio for all. Still not sure to which protocolls it will bind (for sure Spektrum, Hitec, Sanwa, Futaba, Flysky AFHDS and AFHDS 2s, and to all the "Fly Protocols" of the small drones and planes) - nobody of the reviewers checked it so far, all only show ELRS. Would be awesome if it binds to the SCX24s, Traxxas, Flysky ANT (Hobby Plus, FMS), AFHDS 3, ...

    • @mikesyr
      @mikesyr Год назад +1

      @@donaldsneffe You can get the 4-in-1 separately as a module. Best of both worlds either way as you can get an ELRS module as well.

    • @donaldsneffe
      @donaldsneffe Год назад +1

      @@mikesyr I preordered the 4-in-1 and can get the ELRS module in case I should need one day. However, I do have the Radiomaster Zorro for about a year now, 4-in-1, and never missed the ELRS so far. I am not a long range FPV guy and no racer, so wouldn't need ELRS, my Zorro binds with all my RTF drones, my UMX planes, my helis, that's the cool thing.

    • @techstuff6829
      @techstuff6829 Год назад +1

      @@donaldsneffeit won’t do Ant or AFHDS 3.

    • @donaldsneffe
      @donaldsneffe Год назад

      @@techstuff6829 But maybe in future... who knows. Would be awesome.

  • @zdog90210
    @zdog90210 Год назад +1

    Radio master makes top notch stuff I have the Boxer and a friend has the 16x and they are beautiful especially for their price. This is not your radio link transmitter!

  • @themountain59
    @themountain59 Год назад

    When too much is really too much ....😎

  • @SentinelGames
    @SentinelGames 8 месяцев назад

    I really want to be excited for this but I just can't. The unintuitive interface is very off-putting. To put it simply and bluntly, this seems to be a surface radio designed by drone pilots, it doesn't meet the needed criteria of what surface RC people want.

  • @teamfusionracing
    @teamfusionracing Год назад

    The radio is a nightmare unless you already have a background in Edgetx radios and understand the complicated way everything works. And then you have to translate some things because it's not a stick radio and we aren't using it to fly things. The real issue is not the complication or capability of edgetx.... learning to unlock the power of what all it can do is great if you want to do that. The issue is that out of the box, the radio is almost unusable.... and the only way to make it function for even basic rc car use, is to navigate some of the complicated edgetx system. Some sort of simplified user interface would be great, not sure if that's possible. But at the very least, it needs some pre-programmed basic models with the normal, basic functions that rc car radios do. One for a crawler, one for a race buggy, one for a basher, etc... with simple trims, endpoints, expos using the radio's gizmos. This radio can do things no other car radio can do.... it can be awesome. But... just a heads up. It also takes hours to set this radio up to have the same basic functions as you get in any entry level car radio. Having said that.... the RUclips tutorials are great.... really helps to see how others are setting up different things.

  • @TwigoGamer
    @TwigoGamer Год назад

    Yoooooo