Got to say... now I need ANOTHER radio!!! I have a nice enough radio and then along comes the Boxer, OK, that is a true winner in every sense, but then the Jumper T20 comes out, the RadioMaster Pocket is trying to get me to say "just get it, it is only $69 bucks or so...", and then all of the customized TX16's... I will say this - about 6-7 years ago I bought a Futaba radio for an off road "truggy". Had to save up for a bit as it cost over $400 but this radio is available for $129, so that is great progress! for US!! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I am glad you found it to work very well, with some cool features, that is all great to know. Super cool to see that there are actually ELRS receivers in classic style to plug in servos!
Did you know that RadioMaster made this thing based on my recommendation? I love them. They even included a "trainer" port so I can connect a proper LRS!!
Great to have an off-the-shelf elrs radio! For those of us who hacked up their x9d to convert it to a surface radio for OpenTX and module capabilities this is huuuuuge!
Thanks for explaning the fast responses for competitive races, I was looking for a Radio that can not only do long range but also that can be used for races and it even have the trainer port for head tracking. This is the perfect radio for me.
Fpv rc cars is pretty cool! I think that's the only way I'd get into cars. Even though fpv quads are the superior rc hobby. Endless amounts of freedom.
Open TX support is massive because it's constantly being upgraded and the support community is huge. Being able to configure every button, every function and the range is epic. I have a Radiolink I use for my fast cars and boats and they never get away from me. I can't wait to get one of these and with my experience with the Radiomaster 16s its going to be fun.
Dang, Radiomaster has surely come a long way since they released the TX-16 all those years ago in a bid to overtake Jumper. If what others have said in the comments are true this means Radiomaster is gunning for the RC/FPV transmitter crown. At this rate, if I ever do get into the FPV and RC hobbies I'll only look into buying Radiomaster products. Thanks for the review!
I created something similar for RC car radios a year ago (Multiprotocol OLED project), because there wasn't anything useful to control toy cars via RC car radio and multiprotocol module then. I use it mainly with the excellent Flysky Noble NB4 , but the system works also with other radios. The Flysky NB4 AFHDS3 protocol uses a similar LORA 2.4 GHz technology as ELRS. Max output power 100W (stock mode) = 10+ km (line of sight). Good review and cool radio!
I want to know if this (with the 4-in-1 module) will work with the Losi Promoto mx 1/4-scale motorcycle and, if so, how you would need to program it for that RC motorcycle. It would also be interesting to see if this motor cycle will work as well with a ELRS receiver but I doubt it as the receiver provides some stabilization functionality.
It's a game changer. I have my FPV camera on a servo so I can look around at junctions. I suspect they may be an Open TX branch soon just for surface models, as the requirements are different to flight. Cool review, thanks Steve.
@@MattysDroneWorldYou simply solder your wires to the unit. Obviously if you attempt to solder XT60 wires they are gonna be to thick, but you could solder thin wires then attach those to an XT60
This is a super cool radio. I saw you going over the channels though, don't forget with ELRS channel 5 needs to be HIGH to activate the Armed functionality. higher power outputs etc etc. With channel 5 LOW it won't power up beyond the bench 25mw power level. Of course if you need receiver channel 5 for something you can always remap that to different opentx channel from the expresslrs lua script. Usually with a 6 channel receiver you'd bump outputs 5 and 6 to 6 and 7 respectively. It should probably just come out of the box like that but oh well.
I’m not sure what your saying makes sense as I’ve never heard such reasoning before. ELRS of today does not operate in such a fashion that I’m aware of. There are hundreds of RC products on the market and on many there is no channel 5 as they are 3 or 4 channel units.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I keep trying to reply to this with a link to the Express LRS website but it vanishes. Anyways. Channel 5 being high is a function of Express LRS. It's how it works. If you google "expresslrs why do you keep saying put arm on aux 1" the first hit will take you to Express LRS's website explaining how that works. For a surface vehicle or fixed wing that doesn't technically have Arm, you could just set channel 5 to a fixed high position and not worry about it. I prefer to use a special function in Edge TX that does a few things. With the arm switch OFF it overrides the throttle channel to the neutral or off position and it overrides channel 5 low. With the arm switch on it deactivates the the throttle override and overrides channel 5 high. That way the same switch takes care of the channel 5 high functionality and it acts as a throttle safety for whatever model I'm using. Which can be genuinely important with fixed wing and higher power RC cars where accidentally giving throttle can cause harm.
I was just looking at surface radios and lamenting the fact that it was still stuck in the early 00s tech wise with nothing like Edge TX, multi module, or a modern open radio standard. I was just about to pull the trigger on a Flysky GT5, but it looks like things are changing. Edit: after watching the video and looking at the documentation on the RadioMaster website this radio decimates the competition and is going to throw the surface radio market on it's head.
Always run all my rc cars,trucks etc with a cheap Dumborc controller,you can get over 500m range for less than £30 which is way too much for general bashing.I think this controller will be mainly for speed run guys as i don't know many people who'd want to send their £500-£1000 rc car out of sight,even with an fpv camera fitted, someone's just gonna grab it and make off with it,especially here in the UK,I would 😂😂
These are the 2 things that were missing for rc cars. Elrs and edge tx. Amazing. I was using the Radiolink RC8X with elrs module. That one has many options like crsf link and color touch screen. But elrs is through external module, not internal. When radiomaster makes a color touchscreen version of this, then I will probably get it.
I have a Radiolink radio. It's good, but unless you have an OpenTX/EdgeTx radio, you have no idea how hobbled you are. The ability to program any function you have the imagination to think of is so much more useful than a color screen. The "programming" on the Radiolink is primitive.
Beautiful ! surface radio world 's gonna change. I predict the next release of it will employ color touch screen. Hopefully next next release will have more wheel travel angle, at least +/-90degree, allowing for precise control and maneuverability. Futaba, Sanwa will be dead soon if they do not come out with sth new and better.
I believe dual ESC on most RC products are fed into one channel on a receiver, which this and all radios would support. Or are you talking about something totally different?
Most receivers and transmitters should have built in fail safe for signal loss that automatically cuts throttle input. Can the Mt12 be powered by 2s lipo/portable PowerBank? Im assuming it can bind and work with different brand receiver gyros..
If you get the ELRS version, it binds to any ELRS receiver. If you get the 4-in-1 version then it binds to all kinds of receivers except ELRS or CROSSFIRE
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Big disadvantage of the remote control... This is a standard function that is available on every 10€ remote control and for good reasons, it is an essential function, a real shame... But thanks for the fast response.
@@FS_Performance you can set your rates based on the trim channels, yes. youc an evem ake the trim switches into regular switches instead of trim switches.
Question: I understand that If I opt for the MT12 with built-in ELRS, I can purchase a 4-in-1 module separately and connect it to the radio. However, as I haven't come across an ELRS module for sale, am I correct in assuming that acquiring an MT12 with built-in 4-in-1 and subsequently adding an ELRS module is not feasible? Thanks.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 So, it seems like these ELRS modules are compatible with this radio since they all utilize the same "port" (not entirely sure about the terminology). Good to be aware of that. By the way, I came across the ELRS module on their website, but I got confused because it looks different from the 4-in-1 module. I mistakenly thought it might not be designed for this radio simply because it doesn't have the same appearance. Now I realize how illogical that was, considering they don't even operate on the same "frequency or technology." Makes sense. That being said, I haven't used ELRS before and likely won't in the future. I just wanted to ensure I wouldn't regret not having the option in case I ever decide to use ELRS. Really appreciate the fast reply! Thanks!
Nope. You bind a TRANSMITTER to a RECEIVER, so for ELRS RECEIVERS you need an ELRS TRANSMITTER, and for SPEKTRUM RECEIVERS, you need a SPEKTRUM TRANSMITTER. For knock off SPECTRUM RECEIVERS (the cheap lemon ones) you can bind with a 4-in-1 TRANSMITTER.
It looks super nice I want one! I build speed run cars too. I use the Wi-Fi extender trick with my futaba for long range. How long do you think the range is with the elrs receiver?
Unobstructed, with a direct line of sight from car to remote could easily be 20 miles. However there is no such thing unless you are driving on the salt flats, so as you add trees, hills, buildings between your RC car and remote you cut the range significantly.
If you are new to ELRS, you may be doing the following wrong: - You are incorrectly putting the receiver into bind mode. - You are unaware that the radio and receiver must be on the same Firmware version to work together.
Get ELRS, not because of range only, ELRS version only have 4ms response time and it is as fast as Flysky Noble Pro. If you use the 4in1, which is the old school day encoding, you just wasting the speed ability of this transmitter.
I want to see an actual range test because I bet you aren't going miles away using an RC car. Even with that radio. There's a few guys on RUclips that have figured out a way to drive out of line of sight, and keep signal.
I have the same radiolink remote, so it seems like there's no need to upgrade since they both get about the same range lol. Especially since the radiolink receiver has integrated gyro.
Mmm - I get planes , boats and certainly drones. I don't get cars - whats that all about, especially driving it sitting on the tailgate of a real one you can hop in haha. kinda weird, no?
Anyone in the RC car hobby knows a stock radio gets you 100 meters “unobstructed” range. This entire drive was totally obstructed with trees, bushes, hills, playgrounds. A stock radio would have cut out and lost signal in the first 20 seconds of driving.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yeah but there are noobs out there also looks more dramatic as jedi Steve was never left behind showing how much more range you have.
Finally the ELRS comes into the rc cars' hobby.
If radiomaster can keep up innovative ways, competition is going to have to get better. Awesome review 👏.
Couldn't agree more!
Ive been looking for this forever
This looks ideal for rc cars and boats. A natural progression of ELRS in all facets of rc devices. Radio Master gets 👍👍😀
Finally! I was always wondering why ELRS doesn’t exist for rc cars and now radiomaster made it possible
Got to say... now I need ANOTHER radio!!! I have a nice enough radio and then along comes the Boxer, OK, that is a true winner in every sense, but then the Jumper T20 comes out, the RadioMaster Pocket is trying to get me to say "just get it, it is only $69 bucks or so...", and then all of the customized TX16's...
I will say this - about 6-7 years ago I bought a Futaba radio for an off road "truggy". Had to save up for a bit as it cost over $400 but this radio is available for $129, so that is great progress! for US!! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I am glad you found it to work very well, with some cool features, that is all great to know. Super cool to see that there are actually ELRS receivers in classic style to plug in servos!
Did you know that RadioMaster made this thing based on my recommendation? I love them. They even included a "trainer" port so I can connect a proper LRS!!
Great to have an off-the-shelf elrs radio! For those of us who hacked up their x9d to convert it to a surface radio for OpenTX and module capabilities this is huuuuuge!
Thanks for explaning the fast responses for competitive races, I was looking for a Radio that can not only do long range but also that can be used for races and it even have the trainer port for head tracking. This is the perfect radio for me.
Really Nice set up
Fpv rc cars is pretty cool! I think that's the only way I'd get into cars. Even though fpv quads are the superior rc hobby. Endless amounts of freedom.
Open TX support is massive because it's constantly being upgraded and the support community is huge. Being able to configure every button, every function and the range is epic. I have a Radiolink I use for my fast cars and boats and they never get away from me. I can't wait to get one of these and with my experience with the Radiomaster 16s its going to be fun.
I have been waiting for a ELRS surface radio.
Dang, Radiomaster has surely come a long way since they released the TX-16 all those years ago in a bid to overtake Jumper. If what others have said in the comments are true this means Radiomaster is gunning for the RC/FPV transmitter crown. At this rate, if I ever do get into the FPV and RC hobbies I'll only look into buying Radiomaster products. Thanks for the review!
Can’t wait to try and SpeedRun with this transmitter.
I created something similar for RC car radios a year ago (Multiprotocol OLED project), because there wasn't anything useful to control toy cars via RC car radio and multiprotocol module then. I use it mainly with the excellent Flysky Noble NB4 , but the system works also with other radios. The Flysky NB4 AFHDS3 protocol uses a similar LORA 2.4 GHz technology as ELRS. Max output power 100W (stock mode) = 10+ km (line of sight). Good review and cool radio!
Awesome radio.
Cool video nice radio
Can the elrs work with my fms trucks with the external 4 in 1 module
Nice 1 Steve
great video sir.
Morning ❤
Fun video ! 😃
Great radio,
Great review !!
Thanks! 👍
I want to know if this (with the 4-in-1 module) will work with the Losi Promoto mx 1/4-scale motorcycle and, if so, how you would need to program it for that RC motorcycle. It would also be interesting to see if this motor cycle will work as well with a ELRS receiver but I doubt it as the receiver provides some stabilization functionality.
This is badassssss😍😍😍😍😍 this is perfect for my boats!!! ELRS
It's a game changer. I have my FPV camera on a servo so I can look around at junctions. I suspect they may be an Open TX branch soon just for surface models, as the requirements are different to flight. Cool review, thanks Steve.
Ok so I see your running a 2s lipo for the vista...you just run the ground and vbat off the vista, into like an xt30 or xt60 plug?
Correct (I only use positive/negative wire to unit & battery)
@CAPTAINDRONE798 ok perfect! You think the wires off the air unit can handle the size of an xt60 plug? That's all I have.
@@MattysDroneWorldYou simply solder your wires to the unit. Obviously if you attempt to solder XT60 wires they are gonna be to thick, but you could solder thin wires then attach those to an XT60
@CAPTAINDRONE798 ok thanks Steve! Gonna throw my original air unit on this rc crawler truck i got a while back
This is a super cool radio. I saw you going over the channels though, don't forget with ELRS channel 5 needs to be HIGH to activate the Armed functionality. higher power outputs etc etc. With channel 5 LOW it won't power up beyond the bench 25mw power level. Of course if you need receiver channel 5 for something you can always remap that to different opentx channel from the expresslrs lua script. Usually with a 6 channel receiver you'd bump outputs 5 and 6 to 6 and 7 respectively. It should probably just come out of the box like that but oh well.
I’m not sure what your saying makes sense as I’ve never heard such reasoning before. ELRS of today does not operate in such a fashion that I’m aware of. There are hundreds of RC products on the market and on many there is no channel 5 as they are 3 or 4 channel units.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I keep trying to reply to this with a link to the Express LRS website but it vanishes. Anyways. Channel 5 being high is a function of Express LRS. It's how it works. If you google "expresslrs why do you keep saying put arm on aux 1" the first hit will take you to Express LRS's website explaining how that works. For a surface vehicle or fixed wing that doesn't technically have Arm, you could just set channel 5 to a fixed high position and not worry about it. I prefer to use a special function in Edge TX that does a few things. With the arm switch OFF it overrides the throttle channel to the neutral or off position and it overrides channel 5 low. With the arm switch on it deactivates the the throttle override and overrides channel 5 high. That way the same switch takes care of the channel 5 high functionality and it acts as a throttle safety for whatever model I'm using. Which can be genuinely important with fixed wing and higher power RC cars where accidentally giving throttle can cause harm.
I was just looking at surface radios and lamenting the fact that it was still stuck in the early 00s tech wise with nothing like Edge TX, multi module, or a modern open radio standard. I was just about to pull the trigger on a Flysky GT5, but it looks like things are changing.
Edit: after watching the video and looking at the documentation on the RadioMaster website this radio decimates the competition and is going to throw the surface radio market on it's head.
Always run all my rc cars,trucks etc with a cheap Dumborc controller,you can get over 500m range for less than £30 which is way too much for general bashing.I think this controller will be mainly for speed run guys as i don't know many people who'd want to send their £500-£1000 rc car out of sight,even with an fpv camera fitted, someone's just gonna grab it and make off with it,especially here in the UK,I would 😂😂
I will wait a couple of months for the MT12 Max to come out.
I would love to get my hands on this my fpv car seems to cut off behind a few buildings this will change fpv is a good way
These are the 2 things that were missing for rc cars. Elrs and edge tx. Amazing. I was using the Radiolink RC8X with elrs module. That one has many options like crsf link and color touch screen. But elrs is through external module, not internal. When radiomaster makes a color touchscreen version of this, then I will probably get it.
I have a Radiolink radio. It's good, but unless you have an OpenTX/EdgeTx radio, you have no idea how hobbled you are. The ability to program any function you have the imagination to think of is so much more useful than a color screen. The "programming" on the Radiolink is primitive.
Beautiful !
surface radio world 's gonna change.
I predict the next release of it will employ color touch screen.
Hopefully next next release will have more wheel travel angle, at least +/-90degree, allowing for precise control and maneuverability.
Futaba, Sanwa will be dead soon if they do not come out with sth new and better.
That's good range actually
does this support dual esc for MOA driving?
I believe dual ESC on most RC products are fed into one channel on a receiver, which this and all radios would support. Or are you talking about something totally different?
Most receivers and transmitters should have built in fail safe for signal loss that automatically cuts throttle input. Can the Mt12 be powered by 2s lipo/portable PowerBank? Im assuming it can bind and work with different brand receiver gyros..
You can power with 2s anything, but you may first wish to ensure your battery fits in the available space.
If you get the ELRS version, it binds to any ELRS receiver. If you get the 4-in-1 version then it binds to all kinds of receivers except ELRS or CROSSFIRE
Would this be great for nitro cars?
Yes for sure
Is it possible to use trim Buttons for changing Dualrates or only with switches?
On my TX16S it works only with Switches and not trims.
For dual rates, you'd assign that to a switch. I don't think you can assign anything to the Trim buttons.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Big disadvantage of the remote control... This is a standard function that is available on every 10€ remote control and for good reasons, it is an essential function, a real shame...
But thanks for the fast response.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 you definitely can
@@FS_Performance you can set your rates based on the trim channels, yes. youc an evem ake the trim switches into regular switches instead of trim switches.
Question: I understand that If I opt for the MT12 with built-in ELRS, I can purchase a 4-in-1 module separately and connect it to the radio. However, as I haven't come across an ELRS module for sale, am I correct in assuming that acquiring an MT12 with built-in 4-in-1 and subsequently adding an ELRS module is not feasible? Thanks.
There are tons, and I mean Tons, of ELRS modules. Even RADIOMASTER sells there own ELRS Ranger version.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 So, it seems like these ELRS modules are compatible with this radio since they all utilize the same "port" (not entirely sure about the terminology). Good to be aware of that. By the way, I came across the ELRS module on their website, but I got confused because it looks different from the 4-in-1 module. I mistakenly thought it might not be designed for this radio simply because it doesn't have the same appearance. Now I realize how illogical that was, considering they don't even operate on the same "frequency or technology." Makes sense.
That being said, I haven't used ELRS before and likely won't in the future. I just wanted to ensure I wouldn't regret not having the option in case I ever decide to use ELRS.
Really appreciate the fast reply! Thanks!
Im confused, does the elrs bind to spektrum recievers?
Nope. You bind a TRANSMITTER to a RECEIVER, so for ELRS RECEIVERS you need an ELRS TRANSMITTER, and for SPEKTRUM RECEIVERS, you need a SPEKTRUM TRANSMITTER. For knock off SPECTRUM RECEIVERS (the cheap lemon ones) you can bind with a 4-in-1 TRANSMITTER.
It looks super nice I want one! I build speed run cars too. I use the Wi-Fi extender trick with my futaba for long range. How long do you think the range is with the elrs receiver?
Unobstructed, with a direct line of sight from car to remote could easily be 20 miles. However there is no such thing unless you are driving on the salt flats, so as you add trees, hills, buildings between your RC car and remote you cut the range significantly.
Curse you! Now I want an RC car. 😄
What does elrs stand for? extra long radio signal??
ELRS - Express Long Range System. It is similar to CROSSFIRE, however it is smaller in size, has a longer range and is less expensive.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I definately like the extra distance and it's actually a pretty dang good price considering what a boost in distance you get.
i just bought the mt12 the elrs version . but i killed the stock reciever . i now got a ER5c but it wont bind am i doin somthing wrong?
If you are new to ELRS, you may be doing the following wrong:
- You are incorrectly putting the receiver into bind mode.
- You are unaware that the radio and receiver must be on the same Firmware version to work together.
What does ELRS mean?
Express Long Range System
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks.
so what one is better the ELRS/4IN1 I would is it for both land/water
If you want RANGE then only ELRS will do
Get ELRS, not because of range only, ELRS version only have 4ms response time and it is as fast as Flysky Noble Pro. If you use the 4in1, which is the old school day encoding, you just wasting the speed ability of this transmitter.
I'm afraid to look for the price of the TX and especially the price of RX's!!
Price is $129 US (it is at my end, click on link and check at your end).
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I must say that the price is more than affordable.Its scandalous!
$17 for receivers..not too bad
I want to see an actual range test because I bet you aren't going miles away using an RC car. Even with that radio. There's a few guys on RUclips that have figured out a way to drive out of line of sight, and keep signal.
Guess you’re gonna eat your words (I’m guessing you’ve never tried ELRS in drones or planes). Watch my Range Test video.
Day: 10
Of asking you to review the bubito fpv drone
I have the same radiolink remote, so it seems like there's no need to upgrade since they both get about the same range lol. Especially since the radiolink receiver has integrated gyro.
Jedi Steve has the Radiolink and the Radiomaster ELRS with ELRS receiver has a much longer range.
Mmm - I get planes , boats and certainly drones. I don't get cars - whats that all about, especially driving it sitting on the tailgate of a real one you can hop in haha. kinda weird, no?
You’re gonna get so burned for that comment from all the RC car/truck enthusiasts.
🤣🤣@@CAPTAINDRONE798
I can't drive my Toyota Prius up a ramp and jump it across a creek.
@@themocaw No, I really doubt you could. You could drive it up a ramp into a creek, and we are talking Prius here so....
It's too bad you didn't compare to stock radio instead of Jedi Steve's radio. Probably would have been way more dramatic results.
Anyone in the RC car hobby knows a stock radio gets you 100 meters “unobstructed” range. This entire drive was totally obstructed with trees, bushes, hills, playgrounds. A stock radio would have cut out and lost signal in the first 20 seconds of driving.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yeah but there are noobs out there also looks more dramatic as jedi Steve was never left behind showing how much more range you have.
Me likey
they just destroyed futaba and sanwa