Why your F150 needs an oil catch can
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
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Truck: 2016 F150 2.7L
I recommend an oil separator (catch can). It will help keep your intake valves and intercooler clean! I recommend the JLT 3.0 which you can buy below.
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What kind of results are you seeing from your catch cans?
Do we need one-way
Check valve too ?
Talvinder Mohein a one way check valve is to prevent anything from going back in after it’s come out. It’s not the end of the world. If your on a budget do what you, maybe even modify your catch can. It’s not rocket science;)
I put one of these on my 2015 F150 3.5, one month its 3/4 full is this normal? My results is scaring me.
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@@MrDriftonin Its not normal, that's a lot of oil, Unless you have over serviced your engine oil, i have a catch can also, on my 3.5, after about 4000 miles, i get about 3/4 on my JLT 3.0
Seems like a good idea, I would never have thought of it. You caught quite a bit of oil, I was surprised, thanks for the advice.
Well done man. Definitely makes good sense. The less junk in the less goes out.
Nicely done, thanks. Will have a catch can on my 2.7L tomorrow, great vid!
Awesome! Glad you liked the video.
Installed one on my 2015 2.7 E/B when I purchased the truck with 87k miles. I clean it out at 5k mile oil change intervals & the amount of milky blowby is minimal. Word of advice, use some 'no seize' on the can threads. Makes unscrewing it easier.
Good job man. Thanks for a clean informative video. God bless you
Well done, no nonsense explanation of this issue. Thanks
I love these kind of comments! Thank you!
Excellent information, plain and simple, thanks!
Thank you I had a simple question you gave me a simple answer.
Nice and clear reasoning and easy to understand instructions on installation. Thank You.
Thanks! Im glad you like it!
I just bought my 15 E/B I was looking at videos came across this one and I had a catch can in the cart but I checked my truck and it had one already. I took the time to check it to see if it had anything and it was almost full to the top lol. Dumped it and know I now to check it every oil change.
2nd generation 3.5 EcoBoost has duel injector set up, port and DI to keep valves clean :)
This. ^^^ No longer necessary to run a catch can. At least, in theory. Heads are getting cleaned by the port injection on 2018's and up.
Thanks for information.
Bob Onthis facts.
Does this apply to the 2.7? (2020)
Yes 2.7 also
I have that same JLT. It gets about half full between oil changes. I change the oil around every 5,000 miles.
I dont collect very much. Might be my climate. I still check it every oil change.
I have a 2018 F 150 2.7 and must say for the $$ it's worth it. Yes I know I have both port and direct injection, but do I really want excessive oil in my intake? I say no, I want to give this engine all the protection I can. The JLT system works as advertised and the product is us made, a win win in my book.
craigb757 how much you capturing per 3000 miles?
Would this work on 2019 f150 2.7 ?
@@ratv0958 yes
I just put an oil catch can on my 2017 Silverado 5.3 naturally aspirated and was amazed at the amount of oil I found in it. I running with a JLT system. These direct injection engines are for the birds.
I wouldn't blame DI too much, especially in a NA engine. The big concern is on FI engines.
I installed a JLT 3.0 catch can on my 2020 F150 2.7L (super easy) and it was a wise decision. I've taken about 4 oz of sludge out so far and I am just short of 8,000 miles. Get one.
Great! That's sludge that would've ended up in your intercooler
You don't need a catch can for 2018+ as Ford updated the DI with FP.
@@kbron3250 Disagree. I pull sludge out on every oil change. That would otherwise head down the path and cause caking/coke. "Need"? Won't know until the engine gets up there in miles... barely 20k right now.
Should I get one for my non Ecoboost 3.7 L MKS?
does a 06 f150 4.6 litre need one?
Just installed in my 2023 5.0 f150 dealer said it voids warranty but called Ford they said its fine....do it sooner than later it's worth it replacing valves at 100k will cost thousands
installed one on my 2013 F150 5.0 about 5 years ago, last month i remembered to dump the catch can( i usually empty it every 10,000 miles or oil change) and it was almost full lol.
Oops! I usually do mine every oil change so about 4000-5000 miles
Are we talking just the Eco Boost 5.0 or all the 5.0 Engines ?
Thanks for the video. I'll hopefully be buying a new F-150 with 3.5 EcoBoost within a year or so. I plan on keeping it for at least 10 years, so I want it to last.
They've proven to be pretty reliable trucks! I had one and it was great.
@@TruckStuff1 What happen to your ecoboost?
Thanks for the vid I almost drilled mine!
NOOOO!
Scotty Kilmer says the 5.0L oil consumption problem is a Ford class defect that Ford won't admit to. All of Ford's work arounds don't address or fix the real problem..... which is that Ford used an aluminum block on these 5.0 engines, and didn't sleeve the cylinders. They used a ceramic coating in these cylinders (to save a few pennies), and this coating is either failing or it isn't working as it's supposed to, thus causing the massive oil consumption problem.
To save a few pennies, it reminds me of the recall I had on my 2003 Chevy Silverado. GM decided to change the tail gate cables from stainless to galvanized ones. Well, the galvanized ones would corrode and were snapping. So Chevy had a recall and went back to stainless ones.
@@AStanton1966 at least it's just a tailgate issue compared an engine concern here lol
Ecoboost engines starting in 2017 went with multi port fuel injection and direct injection combo to address the carbon build up on the valves. I have an 18 3.5 ecoboost HO, I installed a catch can and after about 1000 miles I drained some gunk that would have made it back into the engine. Cheap insurance for protecting your engine and don't see any cons in installing one.
I have a question, I have a 2016 f150 2.7 is necesary install the catch can?
@@joseespino218 I would if it was my truck, since you have a port injection system, it will keep your valves cleaner from carbon deposit build up. Just make sure to check at 1k miles initially to get a better feel how much oil its catching to have an idea when you need to check. Jlt makes an inexpensive one and easy to install. You only need it for passenger side.
@@marcoperez4712 thank you I appreciate
Just got a '19 F-150 3.5 Eco
Definitely will get one of these installed 👍👍
Good call! Cheap insurance as far as I'm concerned!
@@TruckStuff1
Thanks!
Is the JLT 3.0 good enough? Has very good user reviews.
Cheers 😎👍
@@teop7887 Yep! I am very pleased with it.
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Awesome, thanks!
Not sure if youve put one already on, but Ive been using this 5oz one. Internal baffles, 2intake 1outlet and has a drain valve. Works really well. I drain it once every 6k-7k miles. I dont use the air filter it comes with, or the third port. I got the third port that was I have alot of options where to put it, make it look more OEM. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N7BJDRB/
@Truck Stuff, how much, if any oil is there on the end of the hose that goes into the valve covers?
No oil to speak of
Is drilling a drain hole in the itercooler advisable when you have a catch can ?
Some people say yes. I say no.
I've heard of some people saying the driver side has a hose as well that should be hooked up to a catch can. Not sure if you've heard of that?
There is an option for a driver's side catch can. It's not as important but can be added as well.
decent, hey was wondering why these trucks get time chain rattles at cold seems like the eco boost have them and now I'm hearing even the 5.0l are getting them
The reason they have timing chain rattle is because people use cheap oil filters and they don’t change the oil often enough. What happens is the timing chain gets plugged with sludge and they operate on oil pressure. If the problem isn’t remedied the chain stretches and ultimately ruins the engine. If you use a good synthetic oil with a high quality filter and change the oil every 5 to 6,000 miles they don’t seem to have a problem
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Not necessary guys, if you use a quality synthetic oil and filter the valve coking isn’t a worry. Putting a catch can on is just another step on your maintenance plus you have to find a place to get rid of the waste. A good oil & filter changed at proper intervals and you’ll enjoy a 300,000 mile lifespan to your engine. I have a 2011 f150 3.5 ecoboost with 290,000 miles on it now and it sounds just like the day I bought it. NO Catch Can!!!
I agree Steve. What is especially important on using synthetic oil changed every 4-5K is not only reducing carbon build up (I still get an induction cleaning every 40K too) but keeps the timing chain tight and happy. My 2012 Eco now has 282K+
@@kbron3250 very nice, I just reached 370,00 miles on my 2011. It still doesn’t use a drop of oil, no timing chain issues, no valve issues and I average about 17 mpg. I’m very pleased with its performance.
@@stephenbloom2545 What brand oil do you use to get that longevity
@@bruceadams3687 I use Amsoil signature series oil with the Amsoil 25,000 mile filter. I personally do 10,000 mile oil changes and my pickup now has 387,000 miles on it and it still doesn’t use any oil. I would also recommend using Amsoil P. I fuel injector cleaner every 4000 miles.
@@stephenbloom2545 Thanks for the info about Amsoil. Your story and others like it have made a believer out of me.
If a ford engine needs a catch can Ford should be responsible for having it on the engine.
I agree however if Ford supplies it on their vehicles you will get to pay another $1000 to $1500. Merry Christmas.
They all do. Not just Ford.
But that would keep you out of the shop to potentially charge you out the ass. Can't have that now, can we?
You don't need a catch can for 2018+ as Ford updated the DI with FP.
In colder climates where it gets well below 32* will there be a problem with the water freezing in the catch can?
I didn't have any issues last winter. I will update this winter too
I've wondered this too
is a catch can recommended for a 2016 V8 ? (f150 xlt sport)
Yes.
What year was your truck? Would be nice if people put that info in the description.. thanks
It's a 2016
I know this is an old video. But I just installed a catch can on mine and it’s gets half way filled every 3-4 days. Isn’t that kind of extreme?
Yes hats quite a lot of blow by. I'd consider a compression test.
Why do you have to reconnect it to the intake..?? Why not just disconnected from the air intake and let the vapors evaporate?. And the catch can can keep collecting oil
Then the air intake would be sucking in unfiltered outside air.
Truck Stuff what if you plug that side
So is it true you should stick with motorcraft 30 to 5 full synthetic high mileage oil.
Any high quality synthetic would work
What about the driver side crank case vent tube?
It's not as important but it can be done as well
The front diff doesn't even have a drain on 4x4s. Manufacturers don't want owners doing any maintenance on their vehicles
What is the chance of it freezing up in the winter time for those of us that live up north.
I've heard reports of this, but I don't think it would be either likely or a big problem.
Ever since I put a catch can in my F150, I get a strange sloshing/hissing noise every time I take my foot off the gas. It's only for a second and I can only hear it at slow speeds. Any idea if that's normal?
Is your hose pinched somewhere?
@@Billy28376 The hose it came with was crap so I bought braided 1/2" hoses from Napa, and that's what's in there. I appreciate you replying but no that can't be it.
Would it be worth it on an old truck? I have a 2011 with 145k miles
It's never too late in my opinion. 145k isn't that old.
Will the Ford performance 5.0 oil separator fit on a 2.7 eco-boost
I haven't tested it. My assumption is that the hoses will connect, but there won't be a convenient way to mount it
JLT makes a model specific to the 2.7 ecoboost, the difference is in the hose length & fittings.
Do you have a suggestion on how to clean up the engine prior to installing a catch can
I use simple green, but a little dish soap and water in a spray can works well. You can buy specific engine cleaners, But anything that will cut through grease will work well. The only things to watch out for are the battery, air intake and alternator.
@@TruckStuff1 sorry I meant the inside where the carbon or gunk is before the catch can install
Oh, gotcha. According to Ford, there is no approved method to clean the valves. One thing you can do is disconnect your blow off valve from the intercooler, then drive up and down the street giving it a lot of gas a couple times to blow out water or oil in the intercooler.
I know this question is old but tossing in a bottle of seafoam or Lucas fuel system cleaner in the fuel tank every 1k to 3k miles when filling up will help clean things up and keep things cleaner
@@3613jeremy yup for the N/A engine like the 5.0 but don't put anything like that in the ecoboost engines you will destroy your turbos.
I put one of these on my 2015 F150 3.5, one month its 3/4 full is this normal?
Yes, that is normal depending on how much and how you drive
@@TruckStuff1 2200-2400 miles
Can sub freezing weather affect this operation????
Supposedly, but I'm not an expert on that
Is this necessary for my ford territory 2021?
I'm not familiar with that car because we do not have it in the US
I bought my truck with a 173,000 miles on it. Is it too late for me to install a catch can?
It's never too late.
What paint code is that truck. ?
Blue Flame Metallic Color Code: SZ/M7220
Is it worth it installing one after 4 years .?
YES!
why aren't these a factory install ?
Cost, mostly. Maybe regulations too. Can't speak to that
Does a 2017 Raptor not need one?
Craig D yes two catch cans for both turbos. Driver and pass. One will help but two will be ideal.
@@NiqqaJim for both turbos? one goes to the PCV and the other goes to the CCV. nothing to do with the turbos
Prittsy yes both turbos.
Pull out about an ounce every month on my truck , one of the best investments you can do .
I agree!
The reason you’re getting so much bye-bye back into the crank case is Because The EPA forces Ford to use cheap low friction piston rings to get better MPG out of its engines.
To be fair, the EPA doesnt force Ford to do much of anything. The EPA sets a standard and its up to Ford to figure out how to reach that standard.
I have a 2011 5.0.
It has been consuming oil on and off for about a year and most mechanics can’t figure it out. I wonder if the sketch can system on the PCV would help with that?
So even if I got a 5.0 coyote these oil catch cans are still important?
It can still be helpful, yes. The issue is direct injection. Ford sells one for the 5.0L
The 5L is port injected so it's not necessary. But it won't hurt.
The 11-14 5.0 is port 15-17 is direct injection and 18+ is direct and port.
Installed one at 65k, changed my oil at 67k and I pulled shy of 1/2 an ounce. Not much, it may not even be necessary, but it gives me a peace of mind
What about a 3.7 ecoboost
how bout just extend the hose down to the ground and plug er back in when it's time for inspection lol
That's how it used to be done!
Cops r not gonna open ur hood to check for the return hose when they pull u over anyway lol
Vw had this problem with their gdi engines...but on newer models even ford ecoboost engine the manufacturers installed dual gasoline injector systems...one for the manifold to clean valves and the original gdi system...so do your homework on your vehicle before wasting your time and money...
Agree GSC- I believe 2018+ Ford Eco Boost have the dual gasoline injectors so yes- catch can is a waste of money. I have a first gen 2012 Eco and I am not wasting my money on a catch can. I have an induction cleaning done every 40K to clean the carbon off and the truck runs fine- 282K now. Also a painful lesson I learned on keeping an Eco over 100K on a DYI is to only use OEM Motorcraft ignition coils. Trust me they are worth the added cost over cheaper brands. At 150K I bought Auto Zone mid grade coils and they were a disaster.
18 and up EcoBoost engines have dual injectors. Port and direct. 2nd gen Eco's are just plain better.
17 and up
15 and up
14 and up
None of the engines need one