My dad was in prison doing a 20 year stretch.. he help protect this little guy from being raped by a bunch of guy’s… the little guy got out after a little while. Come to find out he was a lawyer and came back to that prison and got my dad out for free… true story ….rip to my dad miss ya
@@DavidDavis311 Pretty sure he's Bobby Green's dad. Bobby brought him up during an interview a couple years ago and it went viral. He's wearing the same glasses it looks like
Except for it does need to be judged heavily because I've actually been to prison and it is nothing like what this guy is saying there are no rules that are retarded like that you can eat with anyone you d*** well choose. If you chose not to do that. it doesn't make it a rule set forth by the prison system. that makes this guy a racist. And you people gullible for believing it! Look up locked up abroad Gladiator camp and that's where I was I was even there the last 2 weeks they were filming. And that camps about as rough as it comes. No stupid laws like this guy says in the 1st minute. I'm really not sure why Joe rogan is allowing this guy to lie and play up the race card. 🤔
I had the same experience in CA county jail while waiting to be moved to state prison during my only stay twenty years ago. An older black man was sitting by himself at a chessboard so I asked if I could play. He hesitated but finally agreed. A few minutes into the game, the key holder for the White car came up and knocked my king over and told me the game was over. He was the biggest, most intimidating dude I'd ever seen but I didn't know how things went and I responded by righting my King and continued playing. Without a word, the black guy got up and left. Four large guys surrounded me to block the guards view while the key holder told me the rules. I guess they expected me to be defiant and seemed disappointed when I agreed not to mix cars. Later, my bunky told me that if I'd given any lip I would have gotten my face pushed in. I did 18 months at age 19 and haven't been back since
It says 1 reply...I clicked to read, but it has nothing under it, as if there were no comment. A week later(give or take a couple days) it still says 1 reply But nothing when you click to read. Don't know if anyone will ever see this one, or lol if the sumbitch will even register, but who knows, and who knows why...?? Anyway, peace.
@kermitofwar that’s an interesting point of view when there’s many many people in prison who test a genius IQ level. They’re typically really smart, just didn’t direct there intelligence into the right area
As a person who’s done 3 1/2 yrs, the moral of the story is, don’t break the law or you deal with much worse things in jail than when free. Stay free folks and don’t deal with it! ✌️
@horaceball5418 shit. Dude from school got vehicle manslaughter for that, had some open beer cans he didnt clean his car, wasnt even drinking just was sometimes the group driver. Dont do it if you cant see far past the corner
I’m in disbelief with how great he is at telling stories. I feel like I could see the whole thing playing out right as he said it. Scary yet amazing story
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Prison is like war. 99% boring as fuck,but you learn to instantly hit a switch into violence for survival, and 99% of it is is an ambush in blind spots where cameras are not at and even if there was, the CO,'s don't give a fuck as that is their entertainment. That's prison.
Definitely a good storyteller, but being a CO showed me that the system is definitely fucked. Few guys like him prob don't need to be in, but the vast majority of them shouldn't be let out.
@@blainejb7 That's not how truth and sentences work. There are prison lawyers inside that would run circles around those that have passed the BAR exam and charge 300 an hour. Intelligence and being articulate shouldn't spare a criminal from incarceration, if anything they should be investigated more heavily (such as Bernie Madoff types) because there is a great chance that they really didn't work alone, though the most sinister do.
Captivating. This dude illustrated his personal experience as if he were reliving it in fast forward, sparing only the details that didn’t matter. The most interesting story I’ve heard in awhile.
Agreed. Another great storyteller is Darrel Davis. I think he’s been on the show twice but I’ve only listened to the first one so far. He’s a black musician that basically interviews Klan members about why they hate him, and sometimes they even leave the Klan after befriending him. That dude was fascinating
Hard to understand Mexicans standing with white people Racist white people hate Mexicans just as they do blacks and well all others The mexs should stand with the blacks
To those who didn’t watch the whole episode, he was convicted for a confrontation with a scammer on the scammers property and the scammer found a loophole kidnapping law for having been moved 23 feet on his own property which was enough to sentence Benhey to prison. Basically wrongfully accused.
I survived in prison by keeping my mouth shut and observing everything around me...respecting another man's space and carrying myself like a man should...when it came down to fight I didn't back down...prison here in Texas is a horrible place...not because of the guards or inmates...being away from the ones you love...we all make mistakes and the great thing is I learned from my time in prison...I've been out since 2004 and working in construction ever since...stay out of trouble guys...its easy to get in and hell to get out....great interview Joe 👍
Free man from Michigan prison since 2004 myself. Everything you said was correct, I would say also to stay away from the hustles. Everyone tries to hustle fish. Very bad situations can happen.
I did my time in Kentucky and it seems like camp compared to Texas and California. I was a short timer doing 5yrs. Got out in 2yrs. Been out since March 2012.
Great story telling. That last fight he was talking about mid way I was thinking "oh shit, I hope he makes it" while he was right there telling the story. 😂
As a correctional officer I can say that the part about the officers just watching is 100 percent true. Guards get paid like crap and most don’t care enough to put themselves between two inmates beefing until one goes down. What really sucks is when you want to help and save someone from a real beating but you look behind you and no one is coming along. To make things worse, officer corruption in prisons is rampant. If I had taken up half of the offers inmates have made me I sure as hell wouldn’t be working in a prison, I’d be on a beach somewhere. People talk about police reform and all that happy horse trash but if you ever spend a day as a prisoner or a guard you’ll know that corrections as a whole needs to be reformed and re-managed or this stuff will never end.
well said and spot on! Screws have some normal helpful people along with a bunch of soldout scumbags who really pick a side not a job! Sad because alot of ordinary people caught up in the system get screwed over or worse. Appreciate your honestly man
Well that was absolutely incredible. I could listen to this guy for hours, really felt like I’m right there with him. He’s got a gift for telling stories!
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@@biconscious Yeah, fool is definitely way too strong. Here is my thought on that, his use of the `yo yo yo` is just him being happy to no longer being locked up and grateful he`s being able to tell his stories while still able to earn an honest living while supporting his immediately family. He doesn`t use profanity and if he does, he makes sure to censor it (mainly so he doesn`t get flagged). The yo yo thing is really nothing that has any affect on him keeping us entertained and makes us think twice before we risk going to jail ourselves. The man operates a company, employees people, pays them, worked and got several state licenses, got married, bought a home, raising his son and step child, even took in another child to save the kid from it`s druggie parent, all while staying out of trouble. What more maturity are you looking for ?
It's wild to me that this kind of shit isn't considered 'cruel and unusual punishment' As far as I'm concerned what happened to him and what is happening in every prison in this nation is blatantly unconstitutional and anybody responsible or complicit should be charged and convicted. I wonder why the corrections officer unions aren't already lobbying for that? Makes you think huh?
Honestly, this is a pretty good interview because he sounds like someone who has no knowledge of prison. Which is the average person, but this guys knows how to fight. He probably broke so many rules and didnt even know it, and I think alot of people would have done the same if they ever find themselves in prison.
This has been probably the most captivating story I have heard on Joe Rogan in a long time. You would never hear about those stories on other major platforms let alone TV. That's why Joe Rogan is so important.
This was one of the most real conversations I've heard on here. Great story teller, had me from the beginning and the end snuck up on me wishing I had more.
@@BunglesBreh nah yall are fooled. Too gullible. Homie is a straight fraud. Lied about a lot. Especially the "we knock em out anyway" that's up there with Big U knocking out 32 surenos 😂 yall need to do some research before believing this clown.
@@BunglesBreh lmao broncos are doing absolutely horrible spent almost 300m for nothing! Russell is doing horrendous. And I've spent enough time to know some bullsh1t when I hear it. And I can guarantee there's more lies than truth in this video. I'm not the only one to speak on this either. There's been several channels doing a review and have said the same.
Nah man, I spent some time away and this shit is definitely not normal daily life in prison. 100% believable and definitely does happen on occasion though.
@@teecee4459 Most cops are midwits with zero detective skills who try to pin crimes on the very first suspect that comes up. The legal system is a fucking joke.
I just beat a case this morning that was hanging over my head for two years thanks to my public defender finding a recording we thought was lost. Then this video drops just a little while later. I can't even express how grateful I am to be free right now.
No one wants to be there.. but keep in mind those people who are in there for making stupid mistakes will end up back on the outside again and worse off in society than they were before. Not all of them are lifers.. most are not.. and yet that's the people who will end up back on society again. Super depressing
No. The saga was put into motion by a joker chessman inviting noobs to "come and learn chess" - knowing they don't know the rules yet and will get beaten up by their own 'race'. The races are separate because too much distrust grows between them when sh* and crimes and illicit things are going on, and if riot occurs, you need to qkly know whose team u on - like sports colors.
Joe, I worked in the corrections system for several years. A lot of the time the people guarding the inmates are worse than the inmates themselves, as far as morals and behavior. The biggest issue is how unfair the "for profit" prisons are to inmates. Imagine having a system that gets paid more the higher your classification (minimum, medium, maximum or seg unit) The rules that these for profit facilities put in place are so incredibly ambiguous that an inmate who was on the verge of getting to a lesser classification (much more privileges) can get hit with the dumbest of charges (bed not made, spitting on the ground etc) and they are kept in the higher classification, therefore the facility is paid more. It's a system designed for inmates to fail.
Incentives matter. I learned years ago that one of the biggest constituencies advocating that pot remain illegal is the Prison Guard Union. Job security. And they are largely “non-profit” employees.
My friend has done nearly 30 years on and off in the U.K jails and has only 43. Been in and out and did and a 10 year bid and they only got 10 grand between 4 of them. Spice is massive in U.K jails and sheets cost 150 a go but you make so much more. He made 30 grand in less than 6 months but gave it all to his drug addict mrs who was sleeping with mate. His mate ended up with his dog and even his Mrs of 20 years. I’ll one day write his book if he lives long enough but he simply can’t say no. It’s a full time job keeping him out of jail and he acts with his fists 1st and then deals with the fall out after. I’ve tried getting him to conform to normal life but jail is all he knows. It’s sad really as he’s a good mate but makes really bad choices. I’d rather dismantle a person life from top to bottom then kick the shit out of them, it’s easier and more worth while. Don’t get me wrong, I can fight but it’s caused me drama myself but luckily no jail as I’ve learnt to walk away from disagreements and getting pissed up in bars. Nearly cost me my left arm and life. Not worth it at all.
I agree with your statement regarding the guards being worse than the inmates. My cousin was a guard. The stories he told me were fucked. For example, there was a Muslim inmate at the facility he worked at. My cousin and his buddies would spit their chewing tobacco on his prayer rug every time he did his thing. When shit popped off, he and the other guards would target the inmate's mouths with their sticks so their teeth came out. He wanted to show me a few of them and I told him no. No one cared what the guards did. I don't talk to him much anymore.
Yea for real or like his friends talking about being out in the wild for long periods of time. Less self jacking off about how comedy is top tier art up there with music. The amount of circle jerking that happens during the fellow comedian ones are just so hard to sit through or some lame ass coming on promoting a book make me not wanna listen. Clips like this are og Joe rogan.
This guy is an amazing story teller, I got fully immersed into the story he was telling and I felt like I was there the whole time. He definitely deserves to and should have his own interview(show) on JRE
Look up “lock down 23 and 1” if you haven’t seen him before. It’ll be a white guy with tattoos and usually wearing a ball cap. He talks about his prison time etc and it’s entertaining, informative, and also quite motivating.
I can fucking feel his anxiety while he tells this story, some people think hell yeah he's a beast... no that shit was nerve racking for him, that moment had to feel so fucking ugly, especially the disloyalty from his celly!? That shit hits you in the gut, trapped, set up. That part about the guy on his vent, just that small favor translated to possibly a life saving favor, that was the realest part of his story. The smallest gesture in prison can save your life, giving a soup, telling a joke, being honest, whatever it is someone will see you as someone a human, not another inmate and that shit can save your life. I have never heard a story on prison as good as realistic as this.
For real bro I can’t imagine how he felt luckily he was a really good fighter put someone who can’t fight well against two people lmao yeah I’m dead homie 😂 but honestly puts you in perspective on what you never want to get into sounds bad bad
what you dont realize and he didnt either cuase it was his first time down is he brought all that upon himself. he was making tooooo many moves bringing heat to the camp and housing units he was in. they dont play that shit in prison you aint fitting to be getting cell phones and extra shit cause you got money as a first timer. other things are at play he dont know about and he was more than likely fucking them up making too many moves. therefore tests were sent moves were made in response. i did time this dude did something he isnt saying that brought attention his way. he kind of hinted at it but didnt expand this dude was trying to make moves outside while being inside. not thinking hay am i causing eyes to be on our camp now am i fucking other plays up by big players in here. nope he did what he did without thinking i would bet money thats what brought the attention to him. i did plenty of time in prison this aint go down how dude said exactly. aint no way not one that a skin gonna go toa stranger they dont know and try to get them to stash a weap they gonna test you other ways first before they try to see if youl keep quite about contraband.
"the reasons I try my hardest to keep myself out of prison" Yer O K mate, because you're such a bad ass just doing your best to stay away from that gang life you clearly think you have. 😂🤦🏿♀️ Clown.
One the best segments I’ve ever heard. His attention to detail is on point, he’s well spoken and made sure you knew the ins and outs of a life most don’t know. I was captivated for sure.
I did a couple years once. I found that simply minding your own business and honoring your word gets you through. If you were "taken" by anyone it was either because you broke those 2 rules or you were just plain giving it up.
For everyone wondering like I was, the man sharing his story is Jacob Behney - a BJJ Black Belt & Professor, as well as Bobby Green's father and MMA coach.
I was 18, only 15 days into being an adult. I did time from 2013-2017 in California. Delano, wasco, CRC , then Susanville and finished up in fire camp my last 18 months. I was hooked on Xanax, up to no good. I deserved some time away. It helped get my mind straight. The politics is true. I ran with the southsiders (eses) as a resident(non gang member) same rules apply. The prison mentality never leaves you. Almost 5 years since paroling and I still feel institutionalized. I’ve always wanted to talk about my experiences doing time at such a young age. It was a hell of a ride, a bad dream I couldn’t wake up from for 4 years. It was hard. I would love to gain waivers to join the military to make up for my wrongs, I hate this burden that follows me everywhere after release.
Yeah man I hear you. I turned 20 and 21 while locked up here in Hawaii. I'm 38 now and still have a little of that mentality in me. I needed the time out also haha! I was a well known "Dennis the menace" as the judge called me! All the cops new me and chased me at some point. But yeah man life is great now! I don't regret a damn thing. It made me who I am.
The worst thing in the prison service is when a guy doing 6 months gets put in the same place someone's doing life. Edit: not everyone is from America. You guys have a massive prison system where scumbags make money out of you being there so they need you where you are and you don't get put in places where u become a statistic straight away because its not profitable. Most other places outside of where you are don't work like this, when you are especially fresh into a remand in custody you will be in with EVERYONE that's waiting witch 100% can be from 2 to 12 months where I'm from (Scotland) Glasgow city btw has some of the most violent jails in the western world and makes most American jails look like holiday camps, this fact is hidden by English suits because they the west suits don't want you to know a mostly white inmate population can be just as or more violent than the usual point the finger at the black guy BS. (random fact over) and in most places in Europe, operate the same way , they don't care who you go in with on remands they can be extremely rough too especially in Eastern Europe.
And then your 6 month sentence turns into years because you are constantly forced to fight and defend yourself, even if it means killing someone. Maybe you'll get so institutionalized that you enter as someone with possession or petit larceny charges and leave as a hardened criminal.
@@Hughster49 cap federal prison be for everyone , if u catch a case never show up to court and they catch u in another state u can get sent to federal prison instead of local
@@mikeborden9743 If you're sentence for a Federal crime, you have to serve your time in a Federal prison, or a private facility that the Feds contract. If your convicted in a state, you will do your time in a state facility. Depending on your sentence, you could do time in the county.
Watching this after my uncle was released as a first time offender as well and he told me similar stories. He's Venezuelan and he had to walk, eat, and interact solely with Hispanics cuz the inmates were crewed up with their own ethnicity/race. It was exactly how it's described here. Best way to avoid conflict is to just follow the unwritten rules because even the guards prefer that peace rather than fights every time between groups.
So you gotta follow the rules made by ‘the man’, the establishment, to guarantee you hate your brother, even in prison. You can’t even decide who you love and who you hate
I did three years in a Federal institution over 200 lb of marijuana. First time non-violent offender. I had to learn all of these rules he speaks of. Some of them I had to learn the hard way. It wasn't easy and nothing can prepare you. When you learn you have to spend years of your life in the system. You also learn how corrupt and broken the system is.
Prison is the ultimate culture shock because no matter what you hear, read or watch nothing will prepare you for it. It is a totally different world in there, and a very twisted one, that won’t make any sense (if it ever does) until you get in there.
I am sorry you experienced this. I hope you get nothing but love in your life with kindness and compassion. I am in tears, brother. I send all of my prayers
Imagine explaining the American prison system to an alien: "So what do you do with people who are convicted of a crime?" "Well, we put them into confined spaces with a bunch of other convicts so they can develop their own violently racist ecosystem and then treat them like shit to ensure that they stay in a really bad mood all the time."
I was locked up in Connecticut’s state prison, it’s not as segregated as other prisons I’ve heard about, but this one white guy that got transferred from Phoenix wasn’t even trying to sit on the same table as me. & once I heard where he came from, I understood. Dude kind of opened up once he had questions & I was the only one that answered. Prison is really for the birds, & probably not even, too inhumane, but it was definitely a learning experience. I learned patience, respect, & learned to not get upset over what I can’t control. It was degrading at times. Having to shit with someone across & next to you from all angles, same when taking a shower, or having to use the shower stall next to the “shitter”, having to strip naked in front of a guard every time I came back into the prison from doing 8 hours of dangerous labor that only got me $1.50 a day, just to get paid $15 every two weeks. Having another grown ass man tell me what I can & can’t do. Fights wasn’t really a thing in the dorms, it happened, & when it did it had to be in the shower or in blind spots around the cubes. When I went up top, to the 22/2 a day cells, then yea. Cellmates would fight amongst each other. Or wait till the cell doors popped opened to attack one another. Toughest thing for me was losing my mother while in there, & then not being able to see her after the fact. It drove me insane but couldn’t show weakness. I had to wait till I showered to cry, or wait till my cell mate was asleep to weep in “privacy”. Being around ppl who have 20 years left, 50 year sentences, or 30 years in makes you appreciate the little things like privacy or opening a window. Prison does things to you that you might not even realize till someone points it out. For example, I still wore slippers in the shower even after I came home. Knocked on the dinner table whenever I was done eating & getting up. Phone calls & mail was everything in there. It’s a way to escape (mentally), even if it’s for just a moment. My thing was writing. I would write stories, raps, whatever. Anything to keep my mind out of the reality that I was locked in a cell 22 hours a day, & some times more. Anything to make the days go by faster. My best advise to anyone reading this, about to go in for whatever time is adapt as fast as possible, mind your business, & be mysterious. The less they know, the better. Why? Because if they know you’re fearful, you’re done. If they know you’re weak, you’re done. If they know you have an addiction, you’re done. One older gentleman made the mistake of leaving his conviction papers around his cell mate. Once his cell mate found out he was there for attempt rape, it was over for him. His own cell mate extorted him in exchange for his silence because if those lifers knew what he did, he was dead. Another kid, about 18 years old, made the mistake of letting niggaz know he wanted subs & they ran him dry of all his food & belongings till he ended up owing them. I survived because I gave the illusion that I didn’t care. One guy tested me & though it cost me 30 days of good time & 30 days in the hole, the rest of the guys believed that I didn’t care about going home, even though deep down that’s all I wanted. It took my cell block two months to find out my mother had passed because I just kept it all in. Your cell mate is literally the one person in your life you spend the most time with. I spent 22 hours a day, 7 days a week with him, & had to learn to co-exist with him because we literally shared the same space. Think about it, there’s no one in your life right now that you spend 22 hours a day with or close to. Prison is truly a learning experience. To any kids that read this, believe me when I tell you, there’s nothing cool about prison. Nothing. Once you’re there you have to adapt & life outside, for your loved ones, moves on. The world keeps spinning. Make the best out of your situation now before you get caught up. Trust me. I lost everything while in there, & though it made me a better person overall, the ends never justified the means. I did a year, my first (& only) bid ever, & I lost my mother, my grandmother, my home, my pet, my belongings, everything. I had to start from negative 10 & expected to catch up & then keep up with societies norms. Even after I came home the system wasn’t done with me. They still had 3 years of probation hanging over me, waiting for me to slip so they can send me right back! It’s tough, it’s hard, it’s difficult, but it’s not impossible to do what’s necessary to stay on the right path & out of the way. I was housed with mostly murderers for choosing to not be a $1.50 a day slave. Some of these “killers” were some of the brightest minds I’ve ever met, & all they can do was count the days to their return to a society that will look down on them, & forced them to squeeze through loops just to have a legal income. Coming home to a world that’s so far ahead of them, & moving so fast, that most return to prison for the simple fact that they become overwhelmed & tricked into thinking they need to play “catch-up”. & honestly, some went back in because that’s all they’ve ever known. It doesn’t end, even after you walk out of those guarded electrical gates, or brick walls. If you caught a felony you’ll possibly be forever labeled a felon. Convicted of murder? You’re just a murderer. Convicted of selling drugs? You’re just a drug dealer. Convicted of robbing or stealing? You’re just a robber or thief. Society will call you a criminal before they consider calling you a hard worker. Again, it is not impossible. A lot of us, including myself have made it over the hurdle, but boy was that shit a mission. Honestly, it took another arrest, 2 months before my release from probation before I got the point. Because of Covid, the courts in NYC were practically letting you get away with anything that wasn’t violent, & I took that as a sign from the universe to just let go of the streets & stop being a negative statistic. Today, I have a job, just bought a brand new car yesterday, I have my wife, a home, & though life kicks you from time to time, I cannot complain. You always have a choice. So remember, todays choices, are tomorrows outcomes. Before you head down the path I took (which was selling drugs) think about what you hold dear, think about what & who you love most, & ask yourself, is it worth losing them/ it? If the answer is no, then seek another path. If the answer isn’t no, then, well, at least be prepared. Blessings to all, specially the children, you are the future ❤️🙏🏽 P/s: At 13 years of age, I was taken by the city of New York & placed in a group home. The first “off the record” question I asked the lady at intake was, “let’s say I wanted to escape, is it possible?”. She dropped her pen, looked square at my eyes & simply replied “son, nothing is impossible”… & nothing ever was Yours truly, A NY nigga who made it
@@philomelodia I appreciate that wholeheartedly. What’s crazy is, writing is truly a passion of mine, & my 7th grade education never hindered that. Maybe I will, who knows, but I do appreciate & will consider the suggestion. Thank you very much
This is an amazing story that explains what is wrong with the system. It allows broken people to police broken people. This man is fighting for his life. They thank him and send him to the gym. Sounds like poke mon.
That might be one of the most enlightening and entertaining stories I’ve ever heard about being in prison. He seems like a solid guy just trying to survive but he will literally kill a mofo if they try to come for him. Mad Respect!!
for real. my brother been in and out of prison in California and Colorado and has crazy stories.. especially when they try to jump you in your cell with like 3 dudes on 1. He could always fight so like the man telling the story, he held his own.
@@nicholasheuermann9221 are you 6? You and your brother watch too many movies. Doesn't really happen that much. And jails not that bad. Its like camp. Your brother lies to you.
@@beckfermoore6095 u trolling or don’t know shit!! Just cause it’s not on every day doesn’t mean the days it is or witnessing what goes on and not necessarily be with yourself, doesn’t mean it’s not affecting u or crazy as fuk to be around!! Jail in reality is like the mafia…. Normal people see the movies and think it’s crazy, full on 24/7….. When in fact it’s a lot of lows and boring down time in between quick crazy times of pure madness!!! This is the reality!!!
I was in prison for 5 years. It was a medium security state prison. There was a bit of this racial stuff but for the most part everyone got along. It mostly depends on what you're in for and if you owe anyone money. Cars are a real thing though. And gangs are definitely segregated. But when everyone is only doing 3 to 10 years no one wants to get in trouble so they can go home. This guy was in big boy prison. He's not lying.
@@wizzy3938 It's just a big play on words. Everyone in prison is in a race, and the cars are the various gangs. So one car will be the whites, and another will be hispanics, etc. When you have the keys, you control the car.
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People don’t realize how many men come out of American prisons with PTSD. Real PTSD. An org called AMM talked with veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan and none of them saw the type of intense, personal, up-close, hand-to-hand combat and violence so many cons experience in prison. Now, imagine these people hitting the streets, no resources, no psych-counseling, just layers of anxiety and fear and anger.
They must take accountability for their actions and what they do to better their surroundings. With that being said I agree the system is flawed and made for them to go back to prison.
@@ligmaballs0911 Part of the discussion should be “What is prison for?” No one would deny that prison should be a place of punishment, but that punishment should NOT be the inmate subjected to assault, sexual assault, gang warfare and potentially murder. Rehabilitation (something that other countries put more emphasis on) is almost impossible in that scenario. As the data increasingly shows, men are walking out of US prisons traumatized, desensitized and suffering from PTSD.
Man fuck war I’d rather have a gun fight from 40-50 yards any day than an up close knife to hand hand to hand or knife to knife fight it’s ridiculous then u walk around having to watch for shit like that all day
The funny thing is he's just waiting in the building for the first hour because Bobby said "I want to bring my dad" and Joe just thought he meant to the studio and didn't know he meant on the podcast. I really like Bobby but the podcast is improved with this guy. Joe also had to go at the end and wrap things up, even though it's 4 hours long I coulda listened to another hour. I hope he brings them back again, it was a great episode
Worked corrections for 8 months before getting stabbed 6 times in my right hand trying to break up a similar situation. Left that $hit job and never looked back. $18 an hour isn't worth my life or the horrible outlook on humanity that the job scars you with. Contrarly, getting out early did make me become much more aware of the depravity and violence that surrounds us and made me appreciate the GOOD people out there. The old timers working there were jaded AF and to me were no better than the cons. Sad thing is, I found this to be the same in the Healthcare industry.
could you, or anyone, expand on the healthcare idea? you mean that healthcare workers become more normalized to the kinds of things they see all the time?
The last few seconds of this was like super dark and eerie. It’s actually crazy when you think about it. Almost like the guards watched the ordeal like it was a show or movie yet he was literally fighting for his life and no guard stopped it because they was enjoying the show. Got chills when he said “I just want to get the fuc* out of here” crazy man
@@ChicanoOne760 how is that relevant? Thats like bringing up how russians got sent to gulags or how slaves and prisoners fought in colluseums. We should focus on improving the current situation
@@ChicanoOne760 no Im talking about how ypur comment is irrelevant to what the other guy said. Bringing up how it was for Mexicans and black people back in the fifties is just as relevant as my examples. It doesnt matter how it was before the current situation should be the focus bringing up how it was before doesnt change the past we can only improve the future
Everytime I hear prison stories it reinforces that that’s a place I never hope to be.
Better get your vak seen then homie
Yes, I do NOT recommend it for anyone. True Hell on Earth
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i was in a county lockup for just one week, and that was enough for me to know i never wanna go back in there
My dad was in prison doing a 20 year stretch.. he help protect this little guy from being raped by a bunch of guy’s… the little guy got out after a little while. Come to find out he was a lawyer and came back to that prison and got my dad out for free… true story ….rip to my dad miss ya
W dad may he Rest In Peace..also what was a lawyer doing in prison?
Better question is what wasn't a lawyer doing in prison
That lawyer? You might know him as Jeff Bezos, the rest is history.
Dam super dope. Rip to your dad ✊🏼
That's movie material right there 👌🏻
This guy is immune to interruptions LOL
Lol same thing I was about to say😂
Bobby Green just chiefing in the corner and randomly piping up is for some reason hilarious to me
mans just rolling up as his dad recalls prison stories lmfao
Shit was annoying
Almost made it unwatchable.
wtf that’s bobby green? 💀
He was annoying af
This dude's name is Jacob Behney. I'm sharing it cuz it's nowhere in the description or on Spotify and I know I wasn't the only one lookin for it.
Thanks!
Cheers
Thank you bro ur a legend
Literally came here looking for it thanks
LOL u the man
This dude needed his own interview. One of the most compelling segments from JRE in a long time.
who is he?
@@DavidDavis311 i think it's Jacob Behney
@@matthewbevilaqua8817 It's Bobby Green's foster father, Jacob Benny.
@@matthewbevilaqua8817 Pretty sure he's Bobby Green's dad
@@DavidDavis311 Pretty sure he's Bobby Green's dad. Bobby brought him up during an interview a couple years ago and it went viral. He's wearing the same glasses it looks like
Your worst day outside is better than your best day in prison
That’s the idea
Not really
thats dumb. its people that died horribly outside vs a stabbing or rape in side...
@sickmouthdee if you’re dead you don’t really count in my scenario
@@deluntelewis572 ahh i get you now
"I wanna get tf outta here" Powerful last words
This is the kinda JRE we need. Some jokes, but real open conversations with no judgment.
I was the head of the Aryan brotherhood when I was in prison.
Fucking eh.
Except for it does need to be judged heavily because I've actually been to prison and it is nothing like what this guy is saying there are no rules that are retarded like that you can eat with anyone you d*** well choose. If you chose not to do that. it doesn't make it a rule set forth by the prison system. that makes this guy a racist. And you people gullible for believing it! Look up locked up abroad Gladiator camp and that's where I was I was even there the last 2 weeks they were filming. And that camps about as rough as it comes. No stupid laws like this guy says in the 1st minute. I'm really not sure why Joe rogan is allowing this guy to lie and play up the race card. 🤔
@@drdavinsky Good for you?
@@Hi-bf4ft is that a praise allah anime music video? LOL
Really felt like I was right there experiencing everything in that prison with this guy, he’s that good at telling his story.
I WAS GASPING smh
Bunch of softies lmao
I love when someone comes on with a story makes work go by so much faster
Who the hell is the guy? I recognize Bobby Green but what's the name of the white guy?
Who is the white guy? What’s his name?
I had the same experience in CA county jail while waiting to be moved to state prison during my only stay twenty years ago. An older black man was sitting by himself at a chessboard so I asked if I could play. He hesitated but finally agreed. A few minutes into the game, the key holder for the White car came up and knocked my king over and told me the game was over.
He was the biggest, most intimidating dude I'd ever seen but I didn't know how things went and I responded by righting my King and continued playing. Without a word, the black guy got up and left. Four large guys surrounded me to block the guards view while the key holder told me the rules. I guess they expected me to be defiant and seemed disappointed when I agreed not to mix cars. Later, my bunky told me that if I'd given any lip I would have gotten my face pushed in.
I did 18 months at age 19 and haven't been back since
those guys are major pussys outside, they know how to play the system so they always end up on top inside.
It says 1 reply...I clicked to read, but it has nothing under it, as if there were no comment. A week later(give or take a couple days) it still says 1 reply But nothing when you click to read. Don't know if anyone will ever see this one, or lol if the sumbitch will even register, but who knows, and who knows why...??
Anyway, peace.
@@tylersims6937person might’ve deleted their comment ? But I see that shit all the time, always wonder why. Not 100% sure though
Jail & Prison is for the birds. It's an institution for the stupid, as I always said.
@kermitofwar that’s an interesting point of view when there’s many many people in prison who test a genius IQ level. They’re typically really smart, just didn’t direct there intelligence into the right area
As a person who’s done 3 1/2 yrs, the moral of the story is, don’t break the law or you deal with much worse things in jail than when free. Stay free folks and don’t deal with it! ✌️
Thank you!!!! I will start stopping at yellow lights instead of speeding up to make the light.
@horaceball5418 shit. Dude from school got vehicle manslaughter for that, had some open beer cans he didnt clean his car, wasnt even drinking just was sometimes the group driver. Dont do it if you cant see far past the corner
I’m in disbelief with how great he is at telling stories. I feel like I could see the whole thing playing out right as he said it. Scary yet amazing story
Same, but imagine having been to Donovan (the prison right outside of SD) before?! I can picture it exactly
@Francisco Sotelo𝄞 veda says hi and it was the tv channel XWC
Amazing, and massively embellished story yes!
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The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 10:9
9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
JESUS CHRIST can come anytime!
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@@PaulMorrisseyIRL What parts do you think he embellished on?
Dude is telling a funny prison story one minute then it turns dark real quick 0-100. What a wild ride. Great storyteller.
fr didn’t take my eyes off the screen for 10 minutes that’s rare
Prison is like war. 99% boring as fuck,but you learn to instantly hit a switch into violence for survival, and 99% of it is is an ambush in blind spots where cameras are not at and even if there was, the CO,'s don't give a fuck as that is their entertainment.
That's prison.
Definitely a good storyteller, but being a CO showed me that the system is definitely fucked. Few guys like him prob don't need to be in, but the vast majority of them shouldn't be let out.
Who is this white guy? Never heard of him before I like him.
@@blainejb7 That's not how truth and sentences work. There are prison lawyers inside that would run circles around those that have passed the BAR exam and charge 300 an hour. Intelligence and being articulate shouldn't spare a criminal from incarceration, if anything they should be investigated more heavily (such as Bernie Madoff types) because there is a great chance that they really didn't work alone, though the most sinister do.
I like how he didn’t say he killed the guy, but said he never got up. That shit was cold af
Sometimes, one random act of kindness can really save your life
Captivating. This dude illustrated his personal experience as if he were reliving it in fast forward, sparing only the details that didn’t matter. The most interesting story I’ve heard in awhile.
its real....for a change
Agreed. Another great storyteller is Darrel Davis. I think he’s been on the show twice but I’ve only listened to the first one so far. He’s a black musician that basically interviews Klan members about why they hate him, and sometimes they even leave the Klan after befriending him. That dude was fascinating
What’s the white guys name?
@@russellwhitney107 that’s what I’m in these comments for….
@@russellwhitney107 jake behney
I like this guy, perfect example of don't mistake kindness for weakness.
Speak softly, but carry a Big Stick!
Hard to understand Mexicans standing with white people
Racist white people hate Mexicans just as they do blacks and well all others
The mexs should stand with the blacks
Who is he?
@@youllneverwalkalone2318 Bobby Greens foster Father.
@Tiffany Renzel old saying. What you by first codex?
Joe, upload more of this guy please! That story was solid
Honestly one of the most badass interviews I’ve ever heard
To those who didn’t watch the whole episode, he was convicted for a confrontation with a scammer on the scammers property and the scammer found a loophole kidnapping law for having been moved 23 feet on his own property which was enough to sentence Benhey to prison. Basically wrongfully accused.
holy shit - america scares the hell out of me. The prisons are so corrupt.
@@scottschileck290 literally every prison on earth is corrupt
Holy fuck
That is fucked what a pos
@@gsaexperience8578 Mexican prison is pretty just
I survived in prison by keeping my mouth shut and observing everything around me...respecting another man's space and carrying myself like a man should...when it came down to fight I didn't back down...prison here in Texas is a horrible place...not because of the guards or inmates...being away from the ones you love...we all make mistakes and the great thing is I learned from my time in prison...I've been out since 2004 and working in construction ever since...stay out of trouble guys...its easy to get in and hell to get out....great interview Joe 👍
Yeah Texas and California got the toughest prisons
Free man from Michigan prison since 2004 myself. Everything you said was correct, I would say also to stay away from the hustles. Everyone tries to hustle fish. Very bad situations can happen.
respect y0
@@40mikemike22 New York prisons are just as bad
I did my time in Kentucky and it seems like camp compared to Texas and California. I was a short timer doing 5yrs. Got out in 2yrs. Been out since March 2012.
This guy needs his own movie! 🎥 Incredible interview & story! 🙌
Matthew McConaughey could play him. They kinda look alike.
Hear the Erik Aude Story. 3 years in Pakistan. That will blow your mind.
It's called Shot Caller on Netflix
The first time in a long time that I was disappointed that the video ended.. I love your content, and the way it allows your viewers to think.
You do realize that this is a clip of a full conversation right? This cant be your first JRE. Go get the full 2-3 hrs. Its a few clicks away.
@@DrummerJacobwhere mate i cant find it
@@coffeyplaysgames spotify
"Allows viewers to think," doubt most of you clowns can count to 5. 🤷♂️
@@coffeyplaysgamesSpotify… It’s free
Great story telling. That last fight he was talking about mid way I was thinking "oh shit, I hope he makes it" while he was right there telling the story. 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dude right there with ya lol!
Ya bro.. same thought exactly.
Oh geez. And I didn't even think how silly it was of me until I read your comment.
Yoooo facts!!!!
This guy needs to come back for more story's from his time inside.. I didn't want him to stop
ayooo
I have a hard time believing this small prawn choked anyone out
go find out 😂
@@jdrxzzy1k AA
Look up Wes Watson on YT. Guy spent 10 years in prison, was leader of skinheads.
I love that for a large portion of this podcast Bobby Greene would always move his blunt holding hand into frame.
The dude was playing a real life video game passing through levels! Crazy story and he didnt look big or in shape but dudes a bad man.
As a correctional officer I can say that the part about the officers just watching is 100 percent true. Guards get paid like crap and most don’t care enough to put themselves between two inmates beefing until one goes down. What really sucks is when you want to help and save someone from a real beating but you look behind you and no one is coming along. To make things worse, officer corruption in prisons is rampant. If I had taken up half of the offers inmates have made me I sure as hell wouldn’t be working in a prison, I’d be on a beach somewhere. People talk about police reform and all that happy horse trash but if you ever spend a day as a prisoner or a guard you’ll know that corrections as a whole needs to be reformed and re-managed or this stuff will never end.
Damn man
This shit's as old as prisons. It's never going to end.
do they know ur a weeb
I wonder if there’s any difference in CO behavior at for profit vs non profit prisons
well said and spot on! Screws have some normal helpful people along with a bunch of soldout scumbags who really pick a side not a job! Sad because alot of ordinary people caught up in the system get screwed over or worse. Appreciate your honestly man
Well that was absolutely incredible. I could listen to this guy for hours, really felt like I’m right there with him. He’s got a gift for telling stories!
*What is the Gospel?*
The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 10:9
9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
JESUS CHRIST can come anytime!
REPENT OF YOUR SINS Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS
@@theabhorrentchef7226 You’re the abhorrent chef though. I imagine with a title like that, you would be able to figure it out?
That’s true but he BS’s A LOT!
I like how he describes his fights. "This guy tried to have me hide this shank, so I cleaned him up" lmao
not just in the CA state prison or Feds. Dont get it twisted. Hispanics and whites roll together on the outside too. Wake up black people
man this guy's got some solid stories. i like how he's beating everybody's ass too
dam it was just getting good hope you have a part 2
He needs to be a full guest on JRE that was one of the most interesting stories I've ever heard.
If you think these prison stories are good you should type in Jay Williams on youtube. He has countless stories and all are perfectly told.
@@amck72 thanks will do
Also, check put Larry Lawton channel.
Served I think 12 years in federal?
He's known as the biggest jewel thief in America.
@@biconscious Why do you think Jay Williams is a fool ? Also, how is he not interesting ? What other channel; has better real life prison stories ?
@@biconscious Yeah, fool is definitely way too strong. Here is my thought on that, his use of the `yo yo yo` is just him being happy to no longer being locked up and grateful he`s being able to tell his stories while still able to earn an honest living while supporting his immediately family. He doesn`t use profanity and if he does, he makes sure to censor it (mainly so he doesn`t get flagged). The yo yo thing is really nothing that has any affect on him keeping us entertained and makes us think twice before we risk going to jail ourselves. The man operates a company, employees people, pays them, worked and got several state licenses, got married, bought a home, raising his son and step child, even took in another child to save the kid from it`s druggie parent, all while staying out of trouble. What more maturity are you looking for ?
This had me on the edge of my seat. What a vivid and brutal story. Prison is basically torture.
it literally is torture. Brutally designed to do the exact opposite of “reforming” or “curing” a criminal.
LoL that's how it should be, bullet still cheaper
They got what they deserved.
@@notnek202 what about low level offenders?
It's wild to me that this kind of shit isn't considered 'cruel and unusual punishment'
As far as I'm concerned what happened to him and what is happening in every prison in this nation is blatantly unconstitutional and anybody responsible or complicit should be charged and convicted.
I wonder why the corrections officer unions aren't already lobbying for that? Makes you think huh?
Honestly, this is a pretty good interview because he sounds like someone who has no knowledge of prison. Which is the average person, but this guys knows how to fight. He probably broke so many rules and didnt even know it, and I think alot of people would have done the same if they ever find themselves in prison.
This has been probably the most captivating story I have heard on Joe Rogan in a long time. You would never hear about those stories on other major platforms let alone TV. That's why Joe Rogan is so important.
seriously... was exactly how i felt as well!
You realize there's literally dozens of shows about prison, documentaries right? Stop pushing Joe as some kind of underground messiah.
@@MaleviahBurned we are commenting on the speaker here, nothing to do with rogan lol. stop being weird af.
RUclips is the most major platform and you can listen to stories like this all day lol
Wes Watson tells these stories.
This was one of the most real conversations I've heard on here. Great story teller, had me from the beginning and the end snuck up on me wishing I had more.
ya you could tell by the way he was telling the story that it wasn't a fallacy or an exaggeration - craaaaaazy stuff.
@@BunglesBreh nah yall are fooled. Too gullible. Homie is a straight fraud. Lied about a lot. Especially the "we knock em out anyway" that's up there with Big U knocking out 32 surenos 😂 yall need to do some research before believing this clown.
@@trujillo71921 how many years have you been locked up to be such an expert?
@@trujillo71921 i do see youre a broncos fan :) hows your season going? liking that RW trade? thanks for the draft picks :)
@@BunglesBreh lmao broncos are doing absolutely horrible spent almost 300m for nothing! Russell is doing horrendous. And I've spent enough time to know some bullsh1t when I hear it. And I can guarantee there's more lies than truth in this video. I'm not the only one to speak on this either. There's been several channels doing a review and have said the same.
This guy has so much to say and remembers every moment he almost has to speed thru some stories
Its a made up story. Anybody who's been to Cali prison can tell its all lies. The only people that believe him are the ones that never been there
Ty for sharing this story
Imagine going from fighting for your life in prison, to one day being on JRE. Life is crazy
Thank me laterr👍🏾
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ruclips.net/video/sU2dwEDlwQg/видео.html Finally it’s here.
@@leeman23664 god awful
Facts are he did something to be in prison and shouldn't be listened to on any level. Poor podcast by Joe
It's a crazy world we live in 💯
Hands down, one of the most intense prison stories I've heard. And the realization that it's daily life in prison
Nah man, I spent some time away and this shit is definitely not normal daily life in prison.
100% believable and definitely does happen on occasion though.
No it’s not
@Chelsea Rivers weirdo
This is what happens when men shit together. Shit alone I say, shit alone!
If toy like this stuff then look up wes watson on utube....all his beginning video talk about prison politics...very informative
Brilliant podcast. What a great conversation
Great ending 💯 definitely wanted to hear more
It's so rare you get someone really smart and observant that knows how to express himself inteligently about being locked up.
Battin 50% on this one lol
Even more intelligent to just not get locked up
And knows how to kick butt
@@teecee4459 wait till youre in jail for nothing. It happens all the time.
@@teecee4459 Most cops are midwits with zero detective skills who try to pin crimes on the very first suspect that comes up. The legal system is a fucking joke.
I just beat a case this morning that was hanging over my head for two years thanks to my public defender finding a recording we thought was lost. Then this video drops just a little while later. I can't even express how grateful I am to be free right now.
dang bro your comment made me second hand thankful
Damn thats crazy what was the crime about?
@@BeefyPreacher same here bro
@@toplel1860 Falsely accused of assault and battery.
@@jefflabbecomedy it was just battery then?
This is a fascinating conversation.
I love prison stories. I love it even more when they are told by someone articulate and who can express himself well.
I was just wondering if you still love prison stories?
No one wants to be there.. but keep in mind those people who are in there for making stupid mistakes will end up back on the outside again and worse off in society than they were before. Not all of them are lifers.. most are not.. and yet that's the people who will end up back on society again. Super depressing
Love is a strong word…
@@SoldierAndrew thank you. I will check it out.
Wow....you should get out more.
That's the first Rogan where I thought maybe I should listen to this dude talk more on Spotify.
Who is this white dude?
In the description guys, always!
Holy shit, this is what I just scrolled down to type. I was just thinking to myself: "How do I sign up for Spotify and listen to that guy?"
Dont listen to the woke media
@Zu Su thx
That story just gave me chills for the second time
The best one yet !!!!! Joe he should have his own show
This dude is incredible. And after all of that, he's still so calm & soft spoken. Dudes got all of my respect.
Jacob Behney
ruclips.net/video/sU2dwEDlwQg/видео.html Finally it’s here.
@@leeman23664 shut up dude, you are not going viral
@@leeman23664 Sucks, actually
everybody and their mother has stories where they beat everyone up lmao. stop. bobbys the tough guy not his coach
This entire saga was put into motion by wanting to learn chess, which is unfathomable.
If only he knew better...
No. The saga was put into motion by a joker chessman inviting noobs to "come and learn chess" - knowing they don't know the rules yet and will get beaten up by their own 'race'. The races are separate because too much distrust grows between them when sh* and crimes and illicit things are going on, and if riot occurs, you need to qkly know whose team u on - like sports colors.
@@maximisatwat Don't you see that's the same thing right?
@MANIK what’s this guys name?
@@braydenhavrevold2815 Jacob Benny is his name
We appreciate what you did for us meaning defending yourself
He needs to make this into a book/movie
Joe, I worked in the corrections system for several years. A lot of the time the people guarding the inmates are worse than the inmates themselves, as far as morals and behavior. The biggest issue is how unfair the "for profit" prisons are to inmates. Imagine having a system that gets paid more the higher your classification (minimum, medium, maximum or seg unit) The rules that these for profit facilities put in place are so incredibly ambiguous that an inmate who was on the verge of getting to a lesser classification (much more privileges) can get hit with the dumbest of charges (bed not made, spitting on the ground etc) and they are kept in the higher classification, therefore the facility is paid more. It's a system designed for inmates to fail.
Incentives matter. I learned years ago that one of the biggest constituencies advocating that pot remain illegal is the Prison Guard Union. Job security. And they are largely “non-profit” employees.
My friend has done nearly 30 years on and off in the U.K jails and has only 43. Been in and out and did and a 10 year bid and they only got 10 grand between 4 of them. Spice is massive in U.K jails and sheets cost 150 a go but you make so much more. He made 30 grand in less than 6 months but gave it all to his drug addict mrs who was sleeping with mate. His mate ended up with his dog and even his Mrs of 20 years. I’ll one day write his book if he lives long enough but he simply can’t say no. It’s a full time job keeping him out of jail and he acts with his fists 1st and then deals with the fall out after. I’ve tried getting him to conform to normal life but jail is all he knows. It’s sad really as he’s a good mate but makes really bad choices. I’d rather dismantle a person life from top to bottom then kick the shit out of them, it’s easier and more worth while. Don’t get me wrong, I can fight but it’s caused me drama myself but luckily no jail as I’ve learnt to walk away from disagreements and getting pissed up in bars. Nearly cost me my left arm and life. Not worth it at all.
I agree with your statement regarding the guards being worse than the inmates. My cousin was a guard. The stories he told me were fucked. For example, there was a Muslim inmate at the facility he worked at. My cousin and his buddies would spit their chewing tobacco on his prayer rug every time he did his thing. When shit popped off, he and the other guards would target the inmate's mouths with their sticks so their teeth came out. He wanted to show me a few of them and I told him no. No one cared what the guards did. I don't talk to him much anymore.
So what is the solution then? I see a lot of people complaining about how things are done but nobody is coming up with a solution
@Anonymous Panacea far from modern day. Read the Constitution for once in your life.
I could of listened to another hour or two of stories from this guy! Literally fighting for his life daily 🙏🏾
He probably doesn't have more stories like this though.
Klll Oooo opoooo😊
COULD HAVE
Look up 1090 Jake’s interview with no jumper a white blood in the Florida prison system
This guy needs a fkin movie fr!
Thanks for sharing your story
The keyholder for the Bloods is a real one for letting dude know they were coming for him.
This is why JRE is on top. These stories, the mixed cultures, people, it so rare and profound. This episode is why I love JRE
“White people and black people in the same room, just as MLK Jr intended 🫡🇺🇸”
Did the choked out guy die?
Yea for real or like his friends talking about being out in the wild for long periods of time. Less self jacking off about how comedy is top tier art up there with music. The amount of circle jerking that happens during the fellow comedian ones are just so hard to sit through or some lame ass coming on promoting a book make me not wanna listen. Clips like this are og Joe rogan.
clearly everyone at that tabel enjoying a smoke together, are hyper Racist!
@@sLeeeTo what??
This guy is an amazing story teller, I got fully immersed into the story he was telling and I felt like I was there the whole time. He definitely deserves to and should have his own interview(show) on JRE
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Gene Therapy is for mind control
Look up “lock down 23 and 1” if you haven’t seen him before. It’ll be a white guy with tattoos and usually wearing a ball cap. He talks about his prison time etc and it’s entertaining, informative, and also quite motivating.
Dues lying AF
@@JayMurrr what makes u say that
I was locked in. I could have easily listened for an hour.
Man, this guy is funny! He should do stand up. Excellent story teller. My toes were curling in my sneakers. 😁
bro
@@shutcholameazzup3098😂😂😂
@@evanderdelarosa462 keep going bro
@@shutcholameazzup3098 what does that even mean? 🤔
I hate when people interrupt people when they are telling a story …it’s annoying , this dude is telling a concise interesting story
I can fucking feel his anxiety while he tells this story, some people think hell yeah he's a beast... no that shit was nerve racking for him, that moment had to feel so fucking ugly, especially the disloyalty from his celly!? That shit hits you in the gut, trapped, set up. That part about the guy on his vent, just that small favor translated to possibly a life saving favor, that was the realest part of his story.
The smallest gesture in prison can save your life, giving a soup, telling a joke, being honest, whatever it is someone will see you as someone a human, not another inmate and that shit can save your life.
I have never heard a story on prison as good as realistic as this.
For real bro I can’t imagine how he felt luckily he was a really good fighter put someone who can’t fight well against two people lmao yeah I’m dead homie 😂 but honestly puts you in perspective on what you never want to get into sounds bad bad
What is this guys name?
fake ass life I there. nothing cool about it.
what you dont realize and he didnt either cuase it was his first time down is he brought all that upon himself. he was making tooooo many moves bringing heat to the camp and housing units he was in. they dont play that shit in prison you aint fitting to be getting cell phones and extra shit cause you got money as a first timer. other things are at play he dont know about and he was more than likely fucking them up making too many moves. therefore tests were sent moves were made in response. i did time this dude did something he isnt saying that brought attention his way. he kind of hinted at it but didnt expand this dude was trying to make moves outside while being inside. not thinking hay am i causing eyes to be on our camp now am i fucking other plays up by big players in here. nope he did what he did without thinking i would bet money thats what brought the attention to him. i did plenty of time in prison this aint go down how dude said exactly. aint no way not one that a skin gonna go toa stranger they dont know and try to get them to stash a weap they gonna test you other ways first before they try to see if youl keep quite about contraband.
@@petejones6827 You're right on the money.
These stories are the reasons I try my hardest to keep myself out of prison. Very inspiring.
He's lying, he's a criminal....
and if you watch the whole podcast he didn't even do anything crazy
Youve been hearing these stories since a youngin vato, of course joe rogans so suprised lol
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Gene Therapy is for mind control
"the reasons I try my hardest to keep myself out of prison"
Yer O K mate, because you're such a bad ass just doing your best to stay away from that gang life you clearly think you have. 😂🤦🏿♀️ Clown.
Bobby is such a humble guy
Bobby green is the definition of a try hard damn 😂
One the best segments I’ve ever heard. His attention to detail is on point, he’s well spoken and made sure you knew the ins and outs of a life most don’t know. I was captivated for sure.
Same I wanna hear more, does he continue talking?
@@Blaz1ngFury ye he does
@@damnbruh6246 you got any links or title for it.
Who's the white dude?
@@dropdead6969 UFC fighter Bobby greens dad. (He adopted Bobby)
This guy's real life story has the suspense of a movie. I'd totally watch a documentary on this guy's experiences
Reminds me of that movie Shot Caller.
@@SchizmKing Great film.
Watch Wes Watsons videos. He’s real as fuck when it comes to prison stories
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@@SchizmKing love this movie
I did a couple years once. I found that simply minding your own business and honoring your word gets you through. If you were "taken" by anyone it was either because you broke those 2 rules or you were just plain giving it up.
I just listen to the full podcast episode. Wish he would of been able to finish his prison story. Most def he needs to come back and finish
This dude is the epitome of "don't confuse quiet/polite/nice/insightful for weak."
And he isn’t jacked. More a slim/ripped body type. Incredible that he won a 2-vs-1
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@@leeman23664 shit
The best/smartest fighters almost always are quiet, observant, and try to diffuse things first before it escalates
@@capo4ever334 that's because fighting is 90% mental
For everyone wondering like I was, the man sharing his story is Jacob Behney - a BJJ Black Belt & Professor, as well as Bobby Green's father and MMA coach.
who did he kidnap??
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@@treybingarape3688 He was accused of kidnapping his own daughter
@@Brewmaster757 Seems like he was actually convicted..
I don't wonder how how you were, no. I don't even know you.
the ending to this clip is truly cinematic
One of my all-time fave interviews(ive watchd it three or four times....it scares the livin' crud out of me.
I was 18, only 15 days into being an adult. I did time from 2013-2017 in California. Delano, wasco, CRC , then Susanville and finished up in fire camp my last 18 months. I was hooked on Xanax, up to no good. I deserved some time away. It helped get my mind straight. The politics is true. I ran with the southsiders (eses) as a resident(non gang member) same rules apply. The prison mentality never leaves you. Almost 5 years since paroling and I still feel institutionalized. I’ve always wanted to talk about my experiences doing time at such a young age. It was a hell of a ride, a bad dream I couldn’t wake up from for 4 years. It was hard. I would love to gain waivers to join the military to make up for my wrongs, I hate this burden that follows me everywhere after release.
Yeah man I hear you. I turned 20 and 21 while locked up here in Hawaii. I'm 38 now and still have a little of that mentality in me. I needed the time out also haha! I was a well known "Dennis the menace" as the judge called me! All the cops new me and chased me at some point. But yeah man life is great now! I don't regret a damn thing. It made me who I am.
You made it bro. Find something that makes you happy.
Waivers are super easy now bro just hit up a recruiter and they’ll hook you up.
wow man this is insane, crazy thing is only you and other former inmates can truly comprehend what you said. almost like shrooms.
see it from another side, you made it out from the hood alive ''blood In blood out''
The worst thing in the prison service is when a guy doing 6 months gets put in the same place someone's doing life.
Edit: not everyone is from America.
You guys have a massive prison system where scumbags make money out of you being there so they need you where you are and you don't get put in places where u become a statistic straight away because its not profitable.
Most other places outside of where you are don't work like this, when you are especially fresh into a remand in custody you will be in with EVERYONE that's waiting witch 100% can be from 2 to 12 months where I'm from (Scotland) Glasgow city btw has some of the most violent jails in the western world and makes most American jails look like holiday camps, this fact is hidden by English suits because they the west suits don't want you to know a mostly white inmate population can be just as or more violent than the usual point the finger at the black guy BS. (random fact over) and in most places in Europe, operate the same way , they don't care who you go in with on remands they can be extremely rough too especially in Eastern Europe.
And then your 6 month sentence turns into years because you are constantly forced to fight and defend yourself, even if it means killing someone. Maybe you'll get so institutionalized that you enter as someone with possession or petit larceny charges and leave as a hardened criminal.
If you were only doing 6 months, you would do your time in the county jail or farm.
@@Hughster49 Not where I'm from, In Scotland you could be serving just a remand in custody with a murderer.
@@Hughster49 cap federal prison be for everyone , if u catch a case never show up to court and they catch u in another state u can get sent to federal prison instead of local
@@mikeborden9743 If you're sentence for a Federal crime, you have to serve your time in a Federal prison, or a private facility that the Feds contract. If your convicted in a state, you will do your time in a state facility. Depending on your sentence, you could do time in the county.
Watching this after my uncle was released as a first time offender as well and he told me similar stories. He's Venezuelan and he had to walk, eat, and interact solely with Hispanics cuz the inmates were crewed up with their own ethnicity/race. It was exactly how it's described here. Best way to avoid conflict is to just follow the unwritten rules because even the guards prefer that peace rather than fights every time between groups.
So you gotta follow the rules made by ‘the man’, the establishment, to guarantee you hate your brother, even in prison. You can’t even decide who you love and who you hate
@@Greg-yu4ij Sadly, if you're sent to prison, you lose your freedoms just as much inside than you do outside of it. Shit is messed up.
That was amazing...like watching a 2 vs 1 mma fight.
That story was more suspenseful and scary than any prison movie ever made. This dude needs an entire two or three hour episode dedicated to him
Real talk
You ain't seen "shot caller" obviously.
@@kygodragon4782 is that a movie?
@@MK-hw2ir Yes.
I dont know shawshank redemption is pretty good
I did three years in a Federal institution over 200 lb of marijuana. First time non-violent offender. I had to learn all of these rules he speaks of. Some of them I had to learn the hard way. It wasn't easy and nothing can prepare you. When you learn you have to spend years of your life in the system. You also learn how corrupt and broken the system is.
Prison is the ultimate culture shock because no matter what you hear, read or watch nothing will prepare you for it. It is a totally different world in there, and a very twisted one, that won’t make any sense (if it ever does) until you get in there.
It was violent in the federal prison? I thought most people was in there for white collar crime
Shit man the CIA has imported more than that loo
I am sorry you experienced this. I hope you get nothing but love in your life with kindness and compassion. I am in tears, brother. I send all of my prayers
Over cannabis, what a bullshit government we have. Sorry you had to be punished for having dried plants
One of the best Prison stories i've ever heard!
This guy's life should be made into a movie.
Dude's a natural born story teller holy shit.
Also, Bobby Green just hanging out lmao
You have never been in any prison obviously .
Bobby green rolling a blunt is the best part.
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Right off the bat, his "I got informed when I went in" is so well-placed and hilarious since he's rolling a blunt. Just great secondary commentary.
Imagine explaining the American prison system to an alien:
"So what do you do with people who are convicted of a crime?"
"Well, we put them into confined spaces with a bunch of other convicts so they can develop their own violently racist ecosystem and then treat them like shit to ensure that they stay in a really bad mood all the time."
It’s a literal joke and don’t forget it’s all profit driven hence why most inmates are there for weak crimes
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Lol
@@Chris-pp8fm STOP BREAKING THE LAW THEN
seems like a really good deterrent to not break the law and live a normal life.
I like that my boy was locked up just long enough to know when to stfu after chiming in 😂😂😂 bro solid
the realisation that your cell mate knows someone is gonna try kill you and not tell you is so sad
I did 8yrs on 23yr sentence in CA. Got out 2020. This dude's story is EXACTLY how it goes
Glad you’re out brother!
@@Furio666 Depending on what he did sure
@@tristan3191 you funny as hell😂
@@tristan3191 it's all lies. Everyone should know by now that saying you did X amount of years in prison gives you respect and high status points.
It’s crazy these “ men” act like this when out in those situations truly waste of vessels
I was locked up in Connecticut’s state prison, it’s not as segregated as other prisons I’ve heard about, but this one white guy that got transferred from Phoenix wasn’t even trying to sit on the same table as me. & once I heard where he came from, I understood. Dude kind of opened up once he had questions & I was the only one that answered.
Prison is really for the birds, & probably not even, too inhumane, but it was definitely a learning experience. I learned patience, respect, & learned to not get upset over what I can’t control. It was degrading at times. Having to shit with someone across & next to you from all angles, same when taking a shower, or having to use the shower stall next to the “shitter”, having to strip naked in front of a guard every time I came back into the prison from doing 8 hours of dangerous labor that only got me $1.50 a day, just to get paid $15 every two weeks. Having another grown ass man tell me what I can & can’t do. Fights wasn’t really a thing in the dorms, it happened, & when it did it had to be in the shower or in blind spots around the cubes. When I went up top, to the 22/2 a day cells, then yea. Cellmates would fight amongst each other. Or wait till the cell doors popped opened to attack one another. Toughest thing for me was losing my mother while in there, & then not being able to see her after the fact. It drove me insane but couldn’t show weakness. I had to wait till I showered to cry, or wait till my cell mate was asleep to weep in “privacy”. Being around ppl who have 20 years left, 50 year sentences, or 30 years in makes you appreciate the little things like privacy or opening a window. Prison does things to you that you might not even realize till someone points it out. For example, I still wore slippers in the shower even after I came home. Knocked on the dinner table whenever I was done eating & getting up. Phone calls & mail was everything in there. It’s a way to escape (mentally), even if it’s for just a moment. My thing was writing. I would write stories, raps, whatever. Anything to keep my mind out of the reality that I was locked in a cell 22 hours a day, & some times more. Anything to make the days go by faster. My best advise to anyone reading this, about to go in for whatever time is adapt as fast as possible, mind your business, & be mysterious. The less they know, the better. Why? Because if they know you’re fearful, you’re done. If they know you’re weak, you’re done. If they know you have an addiction, you’re done. One older gentleman made the mistake of leaving his conviction papers around his cell mate. Once his cell mate found out he was there for attempt rape, it was over for him. His own cell mate extorted him in exchange for his silence because if those lifers knew what he did, he was dead. Another kid, about 18 years old, made the mistake of letting niggaz know he wanted subs & they ran him dry of all his food & belongings till he ended up owing them. I survived because I gave the illusion that I didn’t care. One guy tested me & though it cost me 30 days of good time & 30 days in the hole, the rest of the guys believed that I didn’t care about going home, even though deep down that’s all I wanted. It took my cell block two months to find out my mother had passed because I just kept it all in. Your cell mate is literally the one person in your life you spend the most time with. I spent 22 hours a day, 7 days a week with him, & had to learn to co-exist with him because we literally shared the same space. Think about it, there’s no one in your life right now that you spend 22 hours a day with or close to. Prison is truly a learning experience.
To any kids that read this, believe me when I tell you, there’s nothing cool about prison. Nothing. Once you’re there you have to adapt & life outside, for your loved ones, moves on. The world keeps spinning. Make the best out of your situation now before you get caught up. Trust me. I lost everything while in there, & though it made me a better person overall, the ends never justified the means. I did a year, my first (& only) bid ever, & I lost my mother, my grandmother, my home, my pet, my belongings, everything. I had to start from negative 10 & expected to catch up & then keep up with societies norms. Even after I came home the system wasn’t done with me. They still had 3 years of probation hanging over me, waiting for me to slip so they can send me right back! It’s tough, it’s hard, it’s difficult, but it’s not impossible to do what’s necessary to stay on the right path & out of the way. I was housed with mostly murderers for choosing to not be a $1.50 a day slave. Some of these “killers” were some of the brightest minds I’ve ever met, & all they can do was count the days to their return to a society that will look down on them, & forced them to squeeze through loops just to have a legal income. Coming home to a world that’s so far ahead of them, & moving so fast, that most return to prison for the simple fact that they become overwhelmed & tricked into thinking they need to play “catch-up”. & honestly, some went back in because that’s all they’ve ever known. It doesn’t end, even after you walk out of those guarded electrical gates, or brick walls. If you caught a felony you’ll possibly be forever labeled a felon. Convicted of murder? You’re just a murderer. Convicted of selling drugs? You’re just a drug dealer. Convicted of robbing or stealing? You’re just a robber or thief. Society will call you a criminal before they consider calling you a hard worker. Again, it is not impossible. A lot of us, including myself have made it over the hurdle, but boy was that shit a mission. Honestly, it took another arrest, 2 months before my release from probation before I got the point. Because of Covid, the courts in NYC were practically letting you get away with anything that wasn’t violent, & I took that as a sign from the universe to just let go of the streets & stop being a negative statistic. Today, I have a job, just bought a brand new car yesterday, I have my wife, a home, & though life kicks you from time to time, I cannot complain. You always have a choice. So remember, todays choices, are tomorrows outcomes. Before you head down the path I took (which was selling drugs) think about what you hold dear, think about what & who you love most, & ask yourself, is it worth losing them/ it? If the answer is no, then seek another path. If the answer isn’t no, then, well, at least be prepared. Blessings to all, specially the children, you are the future ❤️🙏🏽
P/s: At 13 years of age, I was taken by the city of New York & placed in a group home. The first “off the record” question I asked the lady at intake was, “let’s say I wanted to escape, is it possible?”. She dropped her pen, looked square at my eyes & simply replied “son, nothing is impossible”… & nothing ever was
Yours truly,
A NY nigga who made it
Damn man
RIP to your mom
Your writing is rather compelling. Ever think about a book? I think you could write something that would sell. Just a thought. Good luck.
@@philomelodia I appreciate that wholeheartedly. What’s crazy is, writing is truly a passion of mine, & my 7th grade education never hindered that. Maybe I will, who knows, but I do appreciate & will consider the suggestion. Thank you very much
@@davidcarey666 thank you very much 🙏🏽
I never get tired of this
This is an amazing story that explains what is wrong with the system. It allows broken people to police broken people. This man is fighting for his life. They thank him and send him to the gym. Sounds like poke mon.
That might be one of the most enlightening and entertaining stories I’ve ever heard about being in prison. He seems like a solid guy just trying to survive but he will literally kill a mofo if they try to come for him. Mad Respect!!
for real. my brother been in and out of prison in California and Colorado and has crazy stories.. especially when they try to jump you in your cell with like 3 dudes on 1. He could always fight so like the man telling the story, he held his own.
You need a role model bro. You respect this guy????????? Why? Because he's been in jail and fights??? Idiot. You need to read a book.
@@nicholasheuermann9221 are you 6? You and your brother watch too many movies. Doesn't really happen that much. And jails not that bad. Its like camp. Your brother lies to you.
@@beckfermoore6095 Tell us your story. Btw there is a big difference between maximum and minimum security prisons.
@@beckfermoore6095 u trolling or don’t know shit!! Just cause it’s not on every day doesn’t mean the days it is or witnessing what goes on and not necessarily be with yourself, doesn’t mean it’s not affecting u or crazy as fuk to be around!!
Jail in reality is like the mafia….
Normal people see the movies and think it’s crazy,
full on 24/7…..
When in fact it’s a lot of lows and boring down time in between quick crazy times of pure madness!!!
This is the reality!!!
I was in prison for 5 years. It was a medium security state prison. There was a bit of this racial stuff but for the most part everyone got along. It mostly depends on what you're in for and if you owe anyone money. Cars are a real thing though. And gangs are definitely segregated. But when everyone is only doing 3 to 10 years no one wants to get in trouble so they can go home. This guy was in big boy prison. He's not lying.
Yeah it’s a different time in certain states with that race stuff.
Depends on the state.
What did you do? Was there demontors in prison?
@Tyler Stewart You win the internet today. LOL
@@wizzy3938 It's just a big play on words. Everyone in prison is in a race, and the cars are the various gangs. So one car will be the whites, and another will be hispanics, etc. When you have the keys, you control the car.
SHAWN RYAN SHOW is a top 10 podcast of all time that in detail talks about combat missions as well as sharing motivational stories and pieces of guidance from a navy seal and CIA operator that has tons of combat deployments and missions the public will never know about .
this guy is a beast
People don’t realize how many men come out of American prisons with PTSD. Real PTSD. An org called AMM talked with veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan and none of them saw the type of intense, personal, up-close, hand-to-hand combat and violence so many cons experience in prison.
Now, imagine these people hitting the streets, no resources, no psych-counseling, just layers of anxiety and fear and anger.
They must take accountability for their actions and what they do to better their surroundings. With that being said I agree the system is flawed and made for them to go back to prison.
@@ligmaballs0911
Part of the discussion should be “What is prison for?” No one would deny that prison should be a place of punishment, but that punishment should NOT be the inmate subjected to assault, sexual assault, gang warfare and potentially murder. Rehabilitation (something that other countries put more emphasis on) is almost impossible in that scenario. As the data increasingly shows, men are walking out of US prisons traumatized, desensitized and suffering from PTSD.
@@ligmaballs0911 it's bigger than that , can't stigmatize all ex con, re integrate properly
@@ligmaballs0911 No its not as easy or simple as your saying it. its basically akin to slavery tbh with you if you dont get it you dont get it
Man fuck war I’d rather have a gun fight from 40-50 yards any day than an up close knife to hand hand to hand or knife to knife fight it’s ridiculous then u walk around having to watch for shit like that all day
I cant wait to listen to this whole episode... this guy is an amazing storyteller. I could picture everything so clear and was so engaged.
The funny thing is he's just waiting in the building for the first hour because Bobby said "I want to bring my dad" and Joe just thought he meant to the studio and didn't know he meant on the podcast. I really like Bobby but the podcast is improved with this guy.
Joe also had to go at the end and wrap things up, even though it's 4 hours long I coulda listened to another hour. I hope he brings them back again, it was a great episode
@@stephengrigg5988 who is he
@@NOOBNOOB007 his foster dad and mma coach
The jargon was tough though
@@NOOBNOOB007 guy below me said it. Father and coach and their dynamic in this podcast is so cool
Education is one of the main keys, to a happier life.
First time in prison now he's a badass😂😂😂😂
Worked corrections for 8 months before getting stabbed 6 times in my right hand trying to break up a similar situation. Left that $hit job and never looked back. $18 an hour isn't worth my life or the horrible outlook on humanity that the job scars you with. Contrarly, getting out early did make me become much more aware of the depravity and violence that surrounds us and made me appreciate the GOOD people out there. The old timers working there were jaded AF and to me were no better than the cons. Sad thing is, I found this to be the same in the Healthcare industry.
Shoulda minded ya business ctfu
most
@@flexinthesehoes2155 sounds like your ass is gonna be in there sooner or later. go to school or something
@@flexinthesehoes2155 live by the sword die by the sword, all our times have been determined some just have more than others
could you, or anyone, expand on the healthcare idea? you mean that healthcare workers become more normalized to the kinds of things they see all the time?
The last few seconds of this was like super dark and eerie. It’s actually crazy when you think about it. Almost like the guards watched the ordeal like it was a show or movie yet he was literally fighting for his life and no guard stopped it because they was enjoying the show. Got chills when he said “I just want to get the fuc* out of here” crazy man
Mexicans and blacks have been experiencing this type of treatment since the 1950s
@@ChicanoOne760 how is that relevant? Thats like bringing up how russians got sent to gulags or how slaves and prisoners fought in colluseums.
We should focus on improving the current situation
@@Tofflan-tr8zr how is that relevant. I'm talking about gladiator fights setup in prisons by guards. You are talking about ancient history
@@ChicanoOne760 no Im talking about how ypur comment is irrelevant to what the other guy said. Bringing up how it was for Mexicans and black people back in the fifties is just as relevant as my examples. It doesnt matter how it was before the current situation should be the focus bringing up how it was before doesnt change the past we can only improve the future
lol