Do you need to Swage your brass?
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2023
- This video came to me because I see rather often people posting pictures and/or questions on the reloading subreddit showing their primers all wonky. It's almost always caused from trying to prime crimped brass without doing the steps of reaming the crimp out or swaging the crimp to push the material out of the way and open the pocket up to it's standard size. I thought this might hopefully help some new people avoid a few mistakes and get ahead of the game a little in their own reloading journey. I hope this helps someone!
If you have any other tips, please leave a comment below so others can learn more information. I'm new to this still and trying to learn all I can and hopefully share as much as possible to help others avoid some mistakes.
Hornady pocket reamer hand tool:
item# 041210
Hornady Swage die for .223/5.56:
item# 041227
(Also made for .308/7.62x51 item# 041228 )
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Great video, thanks for sharing
Thank you, Ken! Happy to help. Hope I showed some good examples and processes to remedy this in your brass. I have added the Lee Swage kit for the APP press. Next time I do a batch of 5.56 brass I am going to test that. Got a few other videos I need to make with the APP as well. Too many ideas I want to share, not enough time 🤣
I appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. I hope you have a great 2024 and I hope to see you on more videos in the future, Ken!!!
That press mounted primer pocket tool is a great find. Much cleaner method, thanks. You will find primers to be crimped on military brass. Not just the 5.56, but the 45 ACP also. I imagine they do this to other caliber ammo also.
Thank you for watching! Happy to have you checking out one of my videos. I'm trying to learn and share it all as I go! This swage die is a great increase in efficiency. I am going to test the Lee APP with their swage kit on my next big batch and see how that goes. Always looking for ways to increase time use efficiency and precise, repeatable results!
Great tip on the other ammo types to watch for also. I've seen it on 9mm before, so it's a good tip to check on anything that is used for military purposes, especially NATO calibers!
Appreciate you watching and leaving a great comment. I'd be happy to have you subscribe and see what else I'm doing. Got several cool things going on this summer I am sharing videos about! Pistol to AR and bolt actions, and range videos as well as all I'm learning about reloading! I'm new and hoping I can show people some different things! Have a great weekend, Michael!!!
Haven't found a swaging tool worth an ex. The best I found RCBS military crimp cutter on the case prep center. Primers slide right in. I used the Lyman cutter and wasn't impressed. I have used the Dillon super swager, need to adjust sometimes due to case head thickness. I have the RCBS swager die for the press too, easier to cut them out.
Thanks for the info! Sounds like this is one of those things that has to be done, but there is not a 100% reliable tool out there yet. What I've done works for me so far, after a few fumbles setting the die up, lol. I'll probably try a few more things. Looks like there is a swage kit for the Lee APP which I just use now to deprime before cleaning, so may give that a try and post something about it if it works well. More things to buy and try it sounds like!!
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I truly appreciate it and I hope you have a great weekend!!
I have a cool swager from Dillon that takes care of those primer crimps.
Yes I was looking at that. Decided to spend the funds on getting the Henderson trimmer. Knowing me, I'm probably gonna get something like that Dillon Super Swage at some point 🤣
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!! Hope you have a great weekend!!
Good stuff, good info for those just getting into reloading.
Thank you!! See a lot of posts online about this, figured it might be good to go over it. Hopefully can help someone out there!! Had fun making the beginning 🤣, but I think my planned April Fool's video will be even more over the top. That one should be fun next week!!
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Good stuff, great info for new people getting into reloading.
I should also thank ya for this comment as well!! Thanks!!
I chuck an RCBS reamer in a cordless drill. Very fast. $27. Yes it removes a tiny bit of material but we’re not talking about quality brass here. Military brass was never intended to be reloaded; it would have cost more if it had been.
Thanks for the comment, Steve! I like hearing about the different ways people are doing things out there. I'm new to this and as I go along learning about loading more, I find that one of my biggest concerns is saving time. I am very limited on time to spend on things, so saving a few seconds and minutes but still getting good results is high priority for me. Next I'm going to test the swage kit for the Lee APP. Have a video on an upgraded tube system that allows it to be loaded with a lot of brass at once. I think if their swage kit does well, that is going to be my new go-to until I get through all this Lake City brass. Now I pay attention and try to get only .223 new ammo so I don't have to worry about swaging as much, lol.
I found that I like the swage process of pushing the material more than cutting with the hand tool I have. Little cleaner and no brass removed. Works for me so far!!
Appreciate you stopping by and watching. I've got new stuff releasing about once a week. I'd enjoy having you stick around and see what else I get up to! I hope you have a great Friday and an awesome weekend coming up, Steve! Thanks again!!
Great video Chad especially for a new reloader
Thanks man! Trying to remember the problems and headaches I had to work thru and try to share those so hopefully other new people can avoid some mistakes. Had fun with this one. Got a little carried away in the into section 🤣, but what I'm filming this weekend for an April Fool's video I'm gonna have to step up the goofy, over the top antics a lot. Should be a funny one if it works out tho!!
Thanks for watching and dropping a line man! Super appreciate you! Have a good evening!!
You bet your brass !
Exactly the right answer!!
Keep seeing posts of primers all messed up like in my thumbnail. Hopefully this helps some folks!!
I had a case with a messed up neck, so I pressed a primer in sideways to over dramatize the problem for my picture 🤣. Didn't wanna waste a good piece of brass!!
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I appreciate it and hope you have a great weekend!!
I have the Hornady swage kit for the progressive, I’d save your money for something else, after several hundred, it seems like I lose a good swage and have to re adjust the die. Also, you still have to load and unload the thing.
The Lee APP is probably the quickest / cheapest way to swage in bulk. I thought it was the best until I swaged on the Dillon 1100 haha!
Only think I could add is make sure you test that your swage is working before you run all your brass through it. Maybe even test periodically. I found a go no go gauge for the primer pocket and that is by far the best way to check. Just not worth it for low volume stuff.
Hey, thanks for the info! I was on the fence about that kit for the progressive, but didn't see anyone say it was amazing, so just went with the single stage die. I had to tinker to get it right. I kinda disassembled it too far before reading the instructions that say "Don't take apart" after it was apart. Oops!! But I just put it back together, tightened it down and pretty much run it at what is probably it's tightest setting. So far it's working, but I will be watching. Next I'll probably do something with priming on the CPS from Primal Rights. It's just another good looking tool!!
I had a few comments that the Dillon Super Swager works well, and was going to think about trying that next, but if the kit for the Lee APP works well, I may try that next. I have the APP that I use only to deprime before cleaning. About to get some upgrades for that to make is run smoother, so if those work, will probably try their swage option next! Thanks for this info!! Honestly, now that I'm aware of this, I'm trying to shoot and then process all my 5.56 ammo and just buy factory .223 loadings now so eventually I'll hopefully not have to swage any of my brass, but I like to have the tools to do the job!
Thanks again for watching and leaving me some good info here in the comments! I truly appreciate it and I hope you have a great weekend!!!
Awesome and informative. Great and thank you for sharing. Good luck on the range.
Thanks, Tim! I figured I would try to show a few things I learned. Maybe help some fellow newbies! At some point, I will try the Lee APP Swage kit with my 6 tube system and we will find out how fast a person can knock out this process!!
Thanks for watching. Have yourself a great week!!
Thanks for the info. Nice job on the video.
Thank you, Chris! I am new to this and trying to make videos about problems I came across. Hope to help other new people and chart my progress as I get further into this. Busy summer, but in these colder months I will be making more reloading room videos. I have a long list of things to film!! I hope you stick around and see what else I'm doing here.
I appreciate the kind words and I hope you had a great Thanksgiving and a wonderful weekend!!!
swaging is the way to go..... i don't like reaming pockets out...
O yes, reaming is slow and leaves a mess, resulting in another thing to clean up. I'm all about trying to save as much time as possible. Just ordered the swage kit for the Lee APP press. I have a video I'm about to finish about some great upgrades for the APP and I think with those upgrades and the swage kit, I should be able to zip through swaging even faster pretty soon!! Should have an update video about that later. I'm getting a lot of ideas and I have limited time to film/edit so it'll be a while before I get to that, lol.
Thanks for checking out several of my videos, Michael. I really appreciate the comments!! I really hope you have a great week!!
I cut my crimp out lol!
Gotta get those crimps gone!! I missed this comment earlier! I'm also going to test the Lee Swage kit on the APP. I want to see if I can speed this process up. Almost done with all the 5.56 brass I have though. Thankfully, this only needs to be done once!!
Thanks for watching this one. I think it may help some newer folks like me! See you on the next one!
I use the neck reamer in a drill and it takes a few seconds and done and don't worry and the material your removing that is the thickest part of the case just don't be stupid and remove to much..
Another useful idea for people to consider! Thanks for letting people know. I was still very new to this when I made this video, and I don't think I would have trusted myself to try a process like that 🤣 Maybe now I would since I have a bit more experience, but I would worry I would over cut!
I like the Hornady die system, but it is slow. I picked up the swage kit for my Lee APP. That will be my next test when I do another batch of crimped 5.56 brass.
Lately I am focused on learning PRS and starting my own load in 6 Creedmoor for that. Thankfully, no crimped brass!!
Thank you for watching one of my videos and leaving a good comment!
Hope to see you around on more of my videos!! Have yourself a great week, sir!!
Not wearing safety glasses, staring sown at case as you're seating a primer..... Don't be like this guy people.
That is a good point. All the books do say to wear glasses. I would have to go back and look at this, but I don't think I was looking down at it. Very well may have. This was when I was still learning all the steps!
I do make a point now to just look down and verify primer facing correct orientation, then put brass in the holder and turn my head as I run the lever.
Either way, that is a good point to bring up. Never bad idea to remind people that safety should considered! Thank you for pointing that out.
Actually, now that I'm typing this I remember being overly dramatic in the start talking about "forcing a primer in when it's hard" if I recall. I think I used the hand primer then and did look down at that. But, it was a spent primer I salvaged from the tub I collect them after depriming. I could probably have put a little note on the screen that there was no live primer in that part of this video. I think that may be what you are referring to.
But, glasses is a great recommendation for people to remember!
Thank you. Have a great week!!
Bro, do you happen to have a used "LARGE RIFLE PRIMER" or "MAGNUM RIFLE PRIMER"?
I searched the internet to make a decorative dummy bullet, but I couldn't find a place to sell the used primer
so I'm leaving a comment.
If you have used primers in storage, please leave me a comment I'll buy it.
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately, I don't have anything in Large primer sized. I've only been using small primers so far. Rifle and Pistol both. I can for sure keep an eye out and if I find some brass on the ground no one is making use of it, I'll collect it and pop the primers. Start a little stash. How many are you looking for? I can ask my buddy and see if he can save me some used primers if he has anything using large ones. I'll try to help if I can!
Hope ya have a great rest of your week!
@@ChadKelly7 Thank you so much for answering my question.
Here in Japan and Korea(south), due to strict laws, ammunition cannot be stored in showcases in all gun stores and must be stored in underground vaults surrounded by 10" concrete. So what I am trying to make is wartime dummy ammunition that closely resembles actual ammunition. According to the law here, dummy ammunition must not have any explosive material inside. Therefore, it is easy to import brass and bullet ammunition, but very difficult to import primer.
The types of ammunition we are currently trying to make are 308win, 7-08rem, 284win, 7.62x54r, 300winmag, 338lapua, 6 types, small rifle primer, large rifle primer, magnum rifle primer respectively 300~500 used primers are required.
@ミントチョコ天ぷら Interesting. I'll for sure start looking around for used/discarded ones. Try to start getting a collection together. Will have to research the legality of mailing something like that, but if all good I don't mind trying to help.
@@ChadKelly7 Thank you very much,
I have searched the ITAR regulations and found that brass and bullet are not included except for firearms parts.
and I have also contacted both Korean and Japanese customs and received confirmation that all brass, bullet, and primer can be cleared as long as they do not contain explosive materials.
The only problem I am experiencing now is that most web markets will not ship small purchases overseas.
As for the payment method, you register your item on ebay and give me the link and I will settle with MasterCard.
Can you tell me your email??