Thank you for the clear, concise and complete review. Some reviews are just an unboxing or assembly. A first grader can unbox and assemble this thing. You showed us the operation and benefits of investing $30.00 on a Lee measure.
You sold me. Thanks for the awesome video- This is exactly the type of video I was hoping to find when I was looking up for reviews on these things. Just wanted to see someone demonstrating how consistent they were, or werent.
I ordered one about 4 days ago but got it from Midway. I couldn't believe how cheap the price is on these. I'm like you man. Using the dipper and weighing every charge out and messing with it. What a waste of time. This looks like a winner to me. Thanks for the video.
TheOutdoorsMissouri Thanks to your video I went and got one of these Lee Perfect Powder Measures. All I can say is wow! This saves so much time compared to using a powder trickler to feed into my scales!
Brownells is the king. Even here in Canada. I love the Lee powder measure. I had some leakage but I just took the drum out and did a real light touch up on a sheet of 1000 grit sandpaper on a flat surface being careful not to change the angle. It took 3 minutes. No leaks now and accurate as hell.
I have an old RCBS powder drop thats 45 years old, and has been used to death. Still performing perfect. Why can't we get quality like that anymore in any thing.
My only complaint about it is that I'm using "Power Pistol", and it's a very fine powder. Plastic has too much static electricity in it, which makes too much of this powder stick to the plastic. I even had to get a static free funnel to get all of the powder into the casing. If you're using a powder that's a bit more coarse, it might be fine. However, when you're using a very fine powder, too much of it sticks to the plastic. I have to completely take it apart just to get all of the powder out of it at the end of the night. Power Pistol works the best in 9mm, so I'll continue using that, but maybe I'll go back to using the scoops and the trickler for reloading 9mm.
I wipe mine before each use with a dryer sheet. Inside, outside, the drum, nozzle, scale pan, funnel. Wipe it all out real good. Clears that annoying shit, right up.
You will always want to check your loads as you go along. My Lee has a tendency to forget what it's doing and wander to other loads. Start on 4.6 and end up on 4.9 (max) before landing on 5.2 grains. That's with a flake powder, so YMMV with ball or stick powders.
Love Lee kit. I swear by Lee dies. Pop some hornady lock rings on Lee dies and you are good to go for super accurate loads. Keep them oiled though or the rust.
@@redtra236 no, Lee dippers can be used for smokeless powder reloading. They have lookup charts to tell you the charge weight a particular size dipper will give you with a given powder. There is a specific technique to get consistent results, and the charts are conservative.
I've been ordering form Midway, Graf, Nachez, Midsouth, Widners, and Powder Vally, for years. They all have been perfect, never making mistakes, and getting my order to me in what seems like the next day. Why can't I get service like that anywhere else? No-one seems to have any pride in their companies anymore.
Fantastic video, I bought the lee also and am impressed with the accuracy...doesnt seem worthwhile to spend a heap more on the 'other throwers' if they are not actually better at measuring. I guess the KISS principle applies here. Cheers.
I just bough one of those at academy sport to try to do some subsinic for my .308 rifle and I dont know if it is because the low amount of powder(10gr) but after about 100 charges I gave up,,that thing was anywhere from 8.4 to 11.5 really bad for what I needed it,, I am returning it tomorrow
I am starting with 10 gr of unique and go up to 12 gr to see wich one work better for me,, I though maybe they dont wirk well with low volume or something
+Israel Quintero well I have loaded 9mm with it with no trouble. I think yours is defective or your using spherical powder or your scale is off. Idk good luck my friend.
I really like mine as well it has been very consistent. Great review!! Being a Missouri guy myself I might guess that your 1st order was from MidwayUSA as this is what I tried to do as well, being from Joplin. MidwayUSA is THE WORST company to do business with in regards to customer service. There are soooo many other option. I just found out about Grafand they are awesome. Ordered a Dillion power swager with free shipping on Thursday and swaged 1000 .223 on Saturday morning.
You think it's good throwing rifle loads? Try getting consistently good pistol loads. A. 45 ACP rd is 4.8 gr for some powders and this unit throws consistently within one tenth. If you think about the mechanics, material, and price, it's amazing. Certainly a good value for the money.
You've had better luck than I. My last several sessions it settles on 4.9 gr., no matter how I set it. And make a small adjustment, you have to throw multiple charges to reach the 'final' value. Had better luck with the last PPM I owned years ago, but my present one is just not accurate enough for handgun loads...
Don't use plastic powder measure with black powder! It can generate static electricity causing a spark! You don't need 1/10 gr accuracy with black powder, and a spark can really light up your day. BP charges are volumetric, not weight based upon FFFg standardized over 200 years ago. For example, when I measure out 40 grains of FFg in my measure it actually weighs about 36 gr. Unlike modern manufacturing, actual size of the granules vary quite a bit. When I bought my Lee 30 years ago, it says so right in the instructions! It still measures +/- 1/10gr reliably but I measure every 10th charge to make sure it doesn't change as the powder column gets shorter in the hopper.
that scale is only good for weighing scrap iron, get a beam scale. rcbs 5-0-5 or 10 - 10, anything made by ohaus. but the lee perfect powder measure is very good
+dulog toy that scale is great for what I do. I don't have time for a balance beam I want to shoot not wait on a scale. There are 437.5 grains in an ounce that scale is supposed to be accurate within 1/10th of a grain. I mean one piece of extruded powder will register on it. Its more about consistency round to round then the number for me. This works good enough to stack 5 rounds in a half inch group at 200yards with a Wal-Mart savage axis rifle. So I think you might have got a bad one or maybe your an elitist or maybe you're just that damn good and have proof.
that tells me a lot, your in a hurry and reloading. I had one of these when it worked good it was fine but electronic scale are known for their inaccuracies. but if that's all you depend on with no way to check it accurately then you are a fool. and that's fine you are responsible for your self. I post on these because some inexperienced young reloader might see this and think its acceptable to be in a hurry and just depend on a cheap electronic scale with no way to accurately confirm his weights. a least this conversation we are having will give him pause to look further to see doing it fast is not a substitute for doing it right. good luck, you're going to need it
dulog toy it is my firm belief that the rcbs range master 750 scale is good enough to get sub m.o.a. bullet made. Before digital scales tons of people used the little dippers and nothing else to charge bullets. Reloading is a rabbit hole. You can go as deep and spend as much money as you want. I put my ammo consistency up against anyone. There is a point of diminishing returns. I reload to be able to get more for my money. I get better ammo at a lower price overall. Including the equipment. Less is more for me. Ammo smith I am not. Shooting on a budget and getting the most bang for your buck is what I'm all about. Reloaders need to know you don't have to spend your life savings to make better than factory ammo. Not talking about super match ammo. None of the tools I have are suitable for that.
its not about money its about safety, almost all my equipment is lee its a good price and good quality. and a rcbs 505 is very inexpensive and lee scale about 20 bucks. (although a little harder to learn to use correctly it is a very good scale) either one very cheap insurance. and more importantly just common sense. the rcbs electronic I had worked well for about a year and a half then when it started going south I quit using it but would play around with it from time to time sometimes it would only be a couple of grains off sometimes as much as 7 or 8 . my point is when yours starts doing this you will never know till its to late.
+dulog toy. I see what your saying. I'm going on 4 years with my scale. I reload 3006 and .243. I haven't had a problem yet probably because I use powder and bullet combinations the almost fill the case so if it was off by to much I think I could tell but I recommend the dippers that lee makes because it will get you close. If you reload like once a year I could see needing a calibration scale.
Thank you for the clear, concise and complete review. Some reviews are just an unboxing or assembly. A first grader can unbox and assemble this thing. You showed us the operation and benefits of investing $30.00 on a Lee measure.
Was just about to spend $100+ but on camera you proved this to stand up to any high dollar. Appreciate it man.
You sold me. Thanks for the awesome video- This is exactly the type of video I was hoping to find when I was looking up for reviews on these things. Just wanted to see someone demonstrating how consistent they were, or werent.
A lotta piece of mind seeing how accurate the Lee powder measure is. Thanks for the great vid
I ordered one about 4 days ago but got it from Midway. I couldn't believe how cheap the price is on these. I'm like you man. Using the dipper and weighing every charge out and messing with it. What a waste of time. This looks like a winner to me. Thanks for the video.
You help me decide by the info you give in your video. Ordered one today.☺ Thanks
TheOutdoorsMissouri Thanks to your video I went and got one of these Lee Perfect Powder Measures. All I can say is wow! This saves so much time compared to using a powder trickler to feed into my scales!
I appreciate the video. Just what I was looking for. I went to a yard sale and picked one up for $10. Not bad condition either.
Brownells is the king. Even here in Canada. I love the Lee powder measure. I had some leakage but I just took the drum out and did a real light touch up on a sheet of 1000 grit sandpaper on a flat surface being careful not to change the angle. It took 3 minutes. No leaks now and accurate as hell.
I have an old RCBS powder drop thats 45 years old, and has been used to death. Still performing perfect. Why can't we get quality like that anymore in any thing.
My only complaint about it is that I'm using "Power Pistol", and it's a very fine powder. Plastic has too much static electricity in it, which makes too much of this powder stick to the plastic. I even had to get a static free funnel to get all of the powder into the casing. If you're using a powder that's a bit more coarse, it might be fine. However, when you're using a very fine powder, too much of it sticks to the plastic. I have to completely take it apart just to get all of the powder out of it at the end of the night. Power Pistol works the best in 9mm, so I'll continue using that, but maybe I'll go back to using the scoops and the trickler for reloading 9mm.
I wipe mine before each use with a dryer sheet.
Inside, outside, the drum, nozzle, scale pan, funnel.
Wipe it all out real good.
Clears that annoying shit, right up.
Interesting review!
thanks man gonna get one . for the money cant go wrong
Nice lever on that Lee press.
42 years of reloading.
Mine has at least 20 years of use on it, I would guess it’s thrown, somewhere near 100 thousand charges.
ordered one today so I can stop using scoop. I will still measure each load but like you say much faster
You will always want to check your loads as you go along. My Lee has a tendency to forget what it's doing and wander to other loads. Start on 4.6 and end up on 4.9 (max) before landing on 5.2 grains. That's with a flake powder, so YMMV with ball or stick powders.
+nongmin88 Thanks for the feedback.
Love Lee kit. I swear by Lee dies. Pop some hornady lock rings on Lee dies and you are good to go for super accurate loads. Keep them oiled though or the rust.
nice I just ordered the kit.
I reload multiple different calibers. Can I purchase additional thimbles and keep preset to my desired weight charge for each?
The measure is definitely better, but that isn't how you're supposed to use the dippers.
Aren't dippers mostly for black powder anyways?
@@redtra236 no, Lee dippers can be used for smokeless powder reloading. They have lookup charts to tell you the charge weight a particular size dipper will give you with a given powder. There is a specific technique to get consistent results, and the charts are conservative.
Nice video. Lee's auto disk has the same accuracy. The RCBS scale only measures to +/- .1 grain...so is it the measure or the scale?
I've been ordering form Midway, Graf, Nachez, Midsouth, Widners, and Powder Vally, for years. They all have been perfect, never making mistakes, and getting my order to me in what seems like the next day. Why can't I get service like that anywhere else? No-one seems to have any pride in their companies anymore.
You've just been lucky with Midway then,. Their customer service is the worst.
Fantastic video, I bought the lee also and am impressed with the accuracy...doesnt seem worthwhile to spend a heap more on the 'other throwers' if they are not actually better at measuring. I guess the KISS principle applies here. Cheers.
fantastic? you mean fucking shit? hold the damn camera steady
Lol. I made this video almost 10 years ago. Go hate on a channel that cares. This video isn't for you.
I'm a newb, help. Does this thing drop directly into the case, or do you drop into the cup and dump the cup into the case?
you can do both. I suggest to measure each charge for accuracy or you can measure every 5th for sure.
I just bough one of those at academy sport to try to do some subsinic for my .308 rifle and I dont know if it is because the low amount of powder(10gr) but after about 100 charges I gave up,,that thing was anywhere from 8.4 to 11.5 really bad for what I needed it,, I am returning it tomorrow
+Israel Quintero maybe you got a defective one. They don't like spherical powder.
I am starting with 10 gr of unique and go up to 12 gr to see wich one work better for me,, I though maybe they dont wirk well with low volume or something
+Israel Quintero well I have loaded 9mm with it with no trouble. I think yours is defective or your using spherical powder or your scale is off. Idk good luck my friend.
TheOutdoorsMissouri thakyou man,, I will try to get anotherone tomorrow at the store and hope for the best
@@israelquintero3118 did it work better?
How long have you been using this powder measure? and how often do you clean it?
I have made a few thousand rounds with it. I don't clean it I just blow it out when I change powder.
Is the perfect measure good for loading weights for .38 cartridges?
+Richard Venneman haven't tried it for .38 check out our video on the lee pro 1000. It will work great for .38
I really like mine as well it has been very consistent. Great review!!
Being a Missouri guy myself I might guess that your 1st order was from MidwayUSA as this is what I tried to do as well, being from Joplin. MidwayUSA is THE WORST company to do business with in regards to customer service. There are soooo many other option. I just found out about Grafand they are awesome. Ordered a Dillion power swager with free shipping on Thursday and swaged 1000 .223 on Saturday morning.
You think it's good throwing rifle loads? Try getting consistently good pistol loads. A. 45 ACP rd is
4.8 gr for some powders and this unit throws consistently within one tenth. If you think about the mechanics, material, and price, it's amazing.
Certainly a good value for the money.
You've had better luck than I. My last several sessions it settles on 4.9 gr., no matter how I set it. And make a small adjustment, you have to throw multiple charges to reach the 'final' value. Had better luck with the last PPM I owned years ago, but my present one is just not accurate enough for handgun loads...
How does it work with Flake powders?
Pretty good. Some of the real fine stuff it has trouble.
It would be helpful if you could show people how to read the power measure and how to a just it
I can do that if you like.
@@theoutdoorsmissouri don't worry I figured it out thanks anyway
Did you have to run a hopper full first
No
Does it work with different types of powder
It doesn't do as good with extruded powder like varget.
Hello ' Will this work with Black Powder
+Alberto Estrella I don't know. If you try it let me know how it works.
Don't use plastic powder measure with black powder! It can generate static electricity causing a spark! You don't need 1/10 gr accuracy with black powder, and a spark can really light up your day. BP charges are volumetric, not weight based upon FFFg standardized over 200 years ago. For example, when I measure out 40 grains of FFg in my measure it actually weighs about 36 gr. Unlike modern manufacturing, actual size of the granules vary quite a bit. When I bought my Lee 30 years ago, it says so right in the instructions! It still measures +/- 1/10gr reliably but I measure every 10th charge to make sure it doesn't change as the powder column gets shorter in the hopper.
Brownells is a grade A company.
that scale is only good for weighing scrap iron, get a beam scale. rcbs 5-0-5 or 10 - 10, anything made by ohaus. but the lee perfect powder measure is very good
+dulog toy that scale is great for what I do. I don't have time for a balance beam I want to shoot not wait on a scale. There are 437.5 grains in an ounce that scale is supposed to be accurate within 1/10th of a grain. I mean one piece of extruded powder will register on it. Its more about consistency round to round then the number for me. This works good enough to stack 5 rounds in a half inch group at 200yards with a Wal-Mart savage axis rifle. So I think you might have got a bad one or maybe your an elitist or maybe you're just that damn good and have proof.
that tells me a lot, your in a hurry and reloading. I had one of these when it worked good it was fine but electronic scale are known for their inaccuracies. but if that's all you depend on with no way to check it accurately then you are a fool. and that's fine you are responsible for your self. I post on these because some inexperienced young reloader might see this and think its acceptable to be in a hurry and just depend on a cheap electronic scale with no way to accurately confirm his weights. a least this conversation we are having will give him pause to look further to see doing it fast is not a substitute for doing it right. good luck, you're going to need it
dulog toy it is my firm belief that the rcbs range master 750 scale is good enough to get sub m.o.a. bullet made. Before digital scales tons of people used the little dippers and nothing else to charge bullets. Reloading is a rabbit hole. You can go as deep and spend as much money as you want. I put my ammo consistency up against anyone. There is a point of diminishing returns. I reload to be able to get more for my money. I get better ammo at a lower price overall. Including the equipment. Less is more for me. Ammo smith I am not. Shooting on a budget and getting the most bang for your buck is what I'm all about. Reloaders need to know you don't have to spend your life savings to make better than factory ammo. Not talking about super match ammo. None of the tools I have are suitable for that.
its not about money its about safety, almost all my equipment is lee its a good price and good quality. and a rcbs 505 is very inexpensive and lee scale about 20 bucks. (although a little harder to learn to use correctly it is a very good scale) either one very cheap insurance. and more importantly just common sense. the rcbs electronic I had worked well for about a year and a half then when it started going south I quit using it but would play around with it from time to time sometimes it would only be a couple of grains off sometimes as much as 7 or 8 . my point is when yours starts doing this you will never know till its to late.
+dulog toy. I see what your saying. I'm going on 4 years with my scale. I reload 3006 and .243. I haven't had a problem yet probably because I use powder and bullet combinations the almost fill the case so if it was off by to much I think I could tell but I recommend the dippers that lee makes because it will get you close. If you reload like once a year I could see needing a calibration scale.
You're not using the dippers right if you did it right you would probably get better results look at the instructions
I'm using the dipper as a tickler. Not to measure. I have the instructions bud.