I hope they see the playerbase's positive reaction to Crableg and Shipshape and rework other maps to share those good beloved qualities, such as inkable walls.
Nah, they're gonna be like "Oops, we accidentally released the unchanged beta versions of these maps, time to update them in a patch to removes the flanks and inkable walls and stuff" lol. 💀
That and I’d really like to see more stages with unique gimmicks. I know the splatfest stages in Splatoon 2 added them, but I’d love seeing more hero mode or salmon run aspects in Splat 3 stages. Grind rails would make for an interesting mechanic in a stage and there’s still a lot of ideas for unique stage ideas. I think a botanical garden-esc stage would be cool
I think the developers said that is not the same map. The name is the same cause it's the same bridge but they treat it like a new map. At least that's what I remember from rassicas' latest video witch is the translation of an interview
@@jasonzervos You're correct. It's supposed to in some ways almost be symbolic of Splatoon 3 itself according to them, as the bridge itself is what opened up the connection between Inkopolis and Splatsville and Splatsville's big rise. And the fact that it's the same location with the same name but is now a new stage with new gameplay symbolizes many things about the game according to the devs...too bad the "new gameplay" of the stage sucks and is worse than the original.
@@legoboy7107Yeah, it was supposed to showcase the passage of time The under-construction bridge from Splatoon 1 like 6 years ago has since been completed
Crableg and Shipshape would definitely be up in the top 10 or 15 best for me personally, they feel fun to navigate and actually let you spread out more
for sure theyre a huge leg up over the other post-launch originals weve gotten so far, i think itll only put into perspective how poor umami/barnacle are (and to a lesser extent brinewater) given a bit more time
@@sheepxs5413 nah not as bad after the lde nerf in patch 5.0.0, bomb spam made the right raised route out of spawn with the grates completely unviable a lot of the time so hopefully itll be a litte bit easier to push out of spawn now
@sheepxs5413 Barnicle isn't that bad but it still uses the tetris shape piece that a lot of people don't like. It's like the best rendition of the tetris piece layout and even then it has some issues. Crableg is if mincemeat was good and Shipshape has actual flanks and flanks with paintable walls on all sides
Man I still remember the hype for Manta Maria as Splatoon 2s first post launch map and playing on a boat in the ocean during summer was the perfect time to release it
manta was so hype. playing on a boat was something new and it felt unique to the series. i was excited for alot of s2 maps bc they all felt unique and different. goby arena was hype bc it was a basketball court even though it was a bad stage. i dont like how the s3 ones are looking ngl. they dont feel colorful and they all feel like mincemeat where its just a bunch of metal and brown colors.
I actually didn’t really like Manta in S2, it just kinda felt like the wrong game for it (long stage so sting ray was oppressive, missile spam was bad too, bubbles took up the ENTIRE choke point). It feels way better in S3 with the slight reworks especially to that exact choke spot, even if it lost the block I genuinely prefer how it plays in 3.
I feel like I'm biased against manta and mako mart bc during splatoon 2 I felt they were on literally every single time I played lol. Now I do look forward to playing them tho
It has one of the cooler gimmicks for turf wars, while at the same time being a complete mess in ranked modes. So that does kinda make sense as to why it's polarising
@@itsfrankie757 Camp Triggerfish's tower path is about literally the most logical place it could go to make use of the map, yet still completely and utterly illogical in execution
True. Was playing on Flounder earlier today, and while Flounder's nice and all, I couldn't help but think to myself "This is really making me miss the Splatoon 1 version of this map right now" and I've never even played the Splatoon 1 version because I've never played Splatoon 1.
I miss Splatoon 1 maps so bad... I want to actually flank with my Inkbrush, not just run straight at the enemy with 10 pounds of QR on my gear and hope for the best 😭
@@Mad-Goose crableg, not crabfish lol I thought it was fine too, aside from the lack of a left flank route (unless you count RM checkpoint), until I got matched together with a charger and we bullied the other team, sniping them the moment they set their foot out from their platform, for like 2 minutes straight
Brushes felt a lot better for me to play in S1 and I think this is why. They kind of rely on flank routes for that fast and sneaky trailblazer playstyle.
Your comment there about The Reef not being alienating to any classes makes me wonder if that’s part of the problem with the mostly lackluster stages in S3. There’s so many classes, weapons, and kit layouts that they’re afraid of getting away from the flat tetrimino shapes in case it creates a huge advantage/disadvantage for a particular class.
That’s the entire problem with them, though. The more linear they are, the WORSE the balance is, since long range options will be able to control the entire map more easily. Making maps wider and more complex pretty much always makes them better to play on because it allows for more decision making from both teams
@@TheCosmicCloud I didn’t say they were successful in doing it, just that the designs suggest trepidation. The fact that they had to add those weird poles and blockers to many maps shows they underestimated how advantageous their designs were for back lines.
@@alexgrunde6682 I definitely think they overlooked a lot of issues these type of maps would lead to, but I don't think the tetris design was an attempt at universal balance, either. It's obviously hard to tell exactly what they were going for, but I think they *wanted* more aggressive playstyles to be the norm, possibly as a result of the very stally/ special spamy meta of Splatoon 2. I guess I see it as more of a failed experiment rather than them being timid
I played a 7.5 minute match of clam blitz on Mincemeat, because no one could score. I think that's the only time I've gone into tied overtime so it's not surprising it's last to me.
I hate that the map is so tiny that they realistically could not have put the basket anywhere else if they tried. I'm 100% on Mincemeat Clams being the single worst map mode in the entire series, it's that bad
It's worth noting that in the first voting the 15 stages that got the least votes moved on to be worst contenders. However while the first part was based on lack of popularity the following parts were based on their infamy. Had the original voting included a vote for the worst it's almost certain the likes of Saltspray Rig would've made it.
im starting to see a trend here... all of the splatoon 3 reworked stages are in the worst list while all of the original layouts are in the best tier. really shows how bad they butchered the stages in this game.
I’m surprised Shellendorf Institute didn’t end up on the worst list… the setting was cool but gameplay wise it had to be one of the worst in Splatoon 2
I appreciate all the fun diagrams strewn about, but yeah for some reason I didn’t like it. Splatoon 2’s maps never clicked for me, I assume that’s because I didn’t use the map enough. I was so used to using the Gamepad in Splat 1, looking at that thing ingrained every corner into my memory!
Mako beating S1 Mahi feels wrong to me. Also it’s very sad how only Museum out of the returning S1 maps in S3 could have both versions discussed together. It really makes me wish the other three stages get reworked/reverted in the future (though crableg existing somewhat satisfies my desire to play on S1 Hammerhead)
Surprised at the absence of Undertow actually! It's a strong guilty pleasure to me so I'm honestly pretty surprised and happy a lot of people didn’t think it was that bad too!
Im also shocked it was absent personally i really really dislike the map its one of my least favorites of all time. Not helped that most of my 100x games have been on that map and ive lost about 80% of them. Ig people just like it more than eeltail and scorch n the like.
What a good list. Found myself nodding along with basically every entry. What gets me about Mahi Turf (S3) is its spawn area, especially before the water drops. In some of the aggressive Turf lobbies, pretty much every game opens with one team locking out the other for the first minute or so. It's boring when your team is doing it, it's frustrating when it happens to you. They badly need to rework that spawn area with the ramps.
haven’t played shipshape but after doing crab leg on turf and CB last night, i can comfortably say it’s one of their best splat 3 maps. it felt like i actually had options for approaching the map as a whole. feels good man
mince meat: You seem bewildered but it was a sniper fight. The team with the best sniper or the best sniper counter wins. If the enemy had a decent sniper, and you had a timid team, you are losing. Mince meant rotations became auto-skip.
@@rubellite4480 I agree some. But when I play with random people on other maps and they are too timid , I will take responsibility for the charger. Some maps like mince meat it's just too hard for 1 person to harass a skilled charger and succeed. Part of the "hallway" problem I guess.
Honestly I'm glad we finally got actual maps. While I'm not a big fan of Crableg due to it being overall just not very interesting at all, I do think it is much, MUCH better than most of the things we've gotten. And Shipshape is fun, I enjoy it! On hopium over here, wanting to believe that this is just a taste of what's to come.
This gets me both hyped and worried for the Reef on Splatoon 3. On one hand, I'm excited to have the best map come to Splatoon 3. On the other hand, I worry about the changes the developers will make to this map that could make it unplayable...
@@Exl6243 FIrst of all, that was a joke and second, I know it is in the files, but from what I know, the only returning stage which was officially announced way in advance was Flounder Heights in the Direct, maybe you can correct me please?
This video should be mandatory viewing for the devs, so they can understand what not to do in the future, and correct the mistakes made in S3, especially on the S1 ported stages
im pretty sure that, compared to other options (especially the reef), sturgeon has a lot of problems like the left side being an instant death option a lot of the time as well as the tower control route
Saltspray and Moray Towers, while probably worse competitive stages, are leagues more fun than a lot of S3 stages. Do YOUR hallway maps have verticality and the ✨C R A N E✨? Yeah, I didn't think so
I’m honesty surprised not to see Sturgeon on the best list. The gimmick is pretty cool and the bottom of mid is so much fun to play on. I will say spawn isn’t that great but I still think it’s a pretty good map and hey, there has to be a reason it’s the only map in the series that’s been in every Splatoon game so far. Edit: Strugeon is not in 1, my bad 💀
I'm so happy Ancho-V Games is on this list. I actually got chills when it came up because to me it has the biggest nostalgia factor of any Splatoon map. I got the game for christmas in 2015 and when I opened it a month later and saw the announcement for Ancho V I got so excited because I felt like I was still part of the experience and not left out bc I didnt get to play around release. In S1 the biggest joy I had was just painting along all the different routes out of spawn and in Ancho-V I could shoot all the fans to zoom around! You could just explore the maps for funsies in turf war and I loved that. Ancho-V is such a creative map and it looks really beautiful too (to me at least). I love when they add aspects from the single player into the multiplayer stages, it makes the in game world feel more connected. I really hope they will add Ancho-V into S3 without taking away it's magnitude and essense. I am also hoping for Urchin and Bluefin to be added, I think they'd add a needed flair of nostalgia into S3. I liked how wide and tall S1 maps were and lets hope the devs will understand how well this would work in S3 as well. I think we're on a good track now tho given how Crableg (and Shipshape) actually show that more.
Damn why did the game with the coolest maps have to be the one I didn’t get to experience. 2 had fun stages but all of the S3 original stuff is a nightmare save for shipshape and crableg
Hammerhead S1 is a fun map but I agree with it's placement at number 10. Stuff like Bluefin Depot and other Splatoon 1 maps are higher up my list of favorites
walleye's bad but i'll take it any day over splatoon 3 hammerhead simply because it has side routes to avoid long range weapons in mid high ground. are they good side routes? idk but it's better than nothing
I kinda like scorche in turf war, the mid feels like a battle arena where everyone is fighting and triying to push. Also it has good routes out of spawn and the theme is my favourite of splatoon 3's
then you, my friend, have never been up against a competent e liter / slosher / splatling /squelcher. there is only ONE way out of mid and mid itself is very tiny and cramped with the giant tower in the middle, and chargers have an easy time since they can see basically all the routes, both in and out of mid
So glad museums finally getting love after all these years I remember although it was popular back in spaltoon 1. It kinda got overshadowed by Mahi, and some people didn’t like the gimmick. Always been my favorite stage, happy it’s getting more recognition now
Walleye Warehouse, Kelp Dome, and Port Mackerel have been personal favorites of mine since Splatoon 1, so to see them be so hated, I understand some of it, but unlike the Splatoon 3 corridor maps, there’s actual cover to hide behind on these maps. Kelp Dome lesser so but it made up for it by having 3 routes around the map. I won’t defend Port Mackerel’s splat zones mode, since the zones were miles apart, but otherwise these maps were just a lot of fun to pop out of unexpected places and catch people unaware!
I actually kinda like Splatoon 2's version of Port Mackeral Splat Zones, probably the one mode I actually like on that map. But in that game they completely reworked the zone so it no longer has that issue you described, so that's part of why.
Honestly I used to hate Snapper Canal in Splatoon 2 but after a while it really grew on me. Not my favorite by any means but I miss it and I hope it comes back in Splatoon 3. I think my favorite stage is Mako Mart or Anchovy Games.
I’m gonna say it, Manta Maria is my personal favourite in the whole series. I don’t honestly have a reason, it’s just always been enjoyable And hot take, I actually enjoy Mincemeat MORE Than Eeltail
I'm gonna be real, anyone who didn't vote for Walleye Warehouse for the worst stage was objectively incorrect. It is literally fucking unplayable, displaying everything that makes Splatoon 3's stages bad but taken to their absolute limit. The only logical reason people voted as anything else for the worst is recency bias.
I actually LIKE the water lanes in mahi's S3 TC map because it means you can't just rush people down mindlessly, and you have to be careful in how you move around. It feels skill testing which is what I like about it.
Honestly I’m surprised I didn’t see undertow in worst. It’s cramped, ugly, and isn’t so much a hallway as it is an hourglass since there’s no actual mid to play on.
Shipshape is actually the most fun map theyve added to splatoon 3. It had identity, its still kind of a hallway (not to be compared with new hammerhead o-o) but the amount of paintable walls and the amount of ups and downs is just a blast to play on. However.... crableg.......... :( (i dont like it)
Post-drizzle season 2023 launch, the new maps are good! Shipshape is a bit too campy for me, though I still enjoy it and think it's decent, and Crableg is actually really fun! (I have only played the Turf War variants though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt)
I think the positive reaction to those distinct bad stages is because a bad map thats bad in a unique way can still be fun and stand out. Balance is severely overrated in terms of how much it drives enjoyment, especially in things like map design. An unbalanced and poorly designed stage can find itself being fun through the sheer novelty of its terribleness.
I actually always loved Walleye Warehouse. Yea the spawn region thing is bad for sure, but every single time I played it on S2 I just had a blast. The drops on the far left felt fun and dynamic, and the hallway on the right was too fun to throw curling bombs down. Also sad some of my favourite S2 maps aren't in top 10, those being Musselforge, Albacore, and Skipper. I didn't follow the community much with Splatoon 2 but I figured Skipper Pavilion was really popular? Guess I was wrong.
Really interesting results in this poll! My personal fav stage is Bluefin Depot because I enjoyed the split layout. Also I thought the zones version was set up quite unusual to one side, though being inkable with long-range weapons and specials from the other.
Hot take, I actually really liked Kelp Dome. I didn’t have Splatoon 1, so if you want to educate me on it in that game then feel free, but in Splatoon 2, it was probably one of my favorites.
I'll be honest, I actually REALLY like Brinewater Springs. The option to rush at mid in like 5 seconds is really fun for me. Even though it's not an actual flank or anything, it still feels nice to be able to go the normal way, drop down and be a jump away from mid, or go a little further after the drop and take that risky ramp that almost takes you around mid. Although yeah, the lack of inkable walls, especially when the map first dropped, is pretty annoying. I personally feel like I rarely get locked out, but I have been on the other side locking people out so that might be a lucky biased. It feels like the small map size supports a highly aggressive playstyle. The map feels like a Nuketown, for people who played CoD. Only a few seconds into the match and you could already find yourself in a firefight, depending on how the other team starts.
With mahis turf layout as someone who mainly plays the game casually in turf it feels pretty awful. The main issue is its size makes gaining specials basically impossible which can make it boring and also it feels way too cramped most the match.
I'M SO HAPPY THE REEF IS THIS HIGH UP!!!💕💕🎀⭐ I love that stage so so much Also, the new maps added in 3 are a BLAST, I can already tell Crableg is gonna be one of ny favourites It looks pretty at night, has a cool easteregg, fantastic layout, amazing background,,,✨✨I love it Shipshape is cool too, it's not as interesting as Crableg imo but it is SUPER cool! I really hop they notice the fandoms positive reaction to these and continue to make interesting and good maps like these
@@legoboy7107 I mean yah but it's still the same map even without 1 or 2 walls that became uninkable, it's not full reworks like splatoon 1 maps so Im not too worried about them making it unplayable
Im actually kinda intrigued how this would look now that the rest of splatoon 3's maps have been released, Ramen, Crableg, Shipshape, and Marlin are all pretty solid, and the Barnicle and Unami reworks really improved them
umami is pretty good imo for clams and somewhat for zones, but not really that good for tower and rain so it probably evened out and ended up near the middle
There is nothing wrong with moray towers and it deserves a spot in S3 where SQUID SURGE EXISTS - All of you haters are to blame for the most fun unique stage being abandoned in the game it would matter most! All they have to do is add some tarps like in hagglefish for some overhead protection and some extra anti-charger blocks and BOOM, good map
Honestly, the fact that Splatoon 3 maps dominated the worst top 10 is depressing. I don’t understand what Nintendo is thinking with designing that game’s maps.
I personally think that new Flounder is way better than old Flounder. Fighting sloshers and blasters on old Flounder was a horrible experience because of how tall it was while the new one isn't built as perfectly for those weapons
So devs. ADD BACK The Reef and DON’T change a SINGLE INCH of the map. and also bring back Splashdown like you already have everything from code to graphics like WHY it’s a fun special and you literally already have it in hero mode
As someone who's first Splatoon online experience was with 3. I knew 3's map designs were already lackluster, and everyone else already thought so too. But man, looking at the footage of some of the earlier games maps making me feel really jealous I missed out on those. Like seriously, I'm now realizing that 3's map designs are actually atrocious in comparison. At least I'm liking the recent 2 so far.
It’s kinda funny, despite being a short range weapon user, I actually do really well on and really like Brinewater??? It’s got a decent balance of wide open space, closed in areas, and of course the traditional Japanese hot spring setting is never a bad thing.
I’m very curious where my personal favorite stage, Inkblot Art Academy, fell. I thought it would at least be top ten, even if it was low in it, but still. Very curious.
ultra stamp in mincemeat when on a rail or hitting it slows down to a dreadful pace, and with the grates... some weapons have "too safe" approaches that can lead to constant camping. Add a Zipcaster to the mix and the entire competition can snowball into an one-sided L. How does moving on a grate slow your movement speed?
i've never played the other 2 games; only Splatoon 3. i can only judge the maps by their Splatoon 3 versions. i'm a big fan of Crableg Capital and Shipshape Cargo Co. they're on par with Mako Mart and Flounder Heights in terms of my favourite maps. Crableg Capital on TC is a tad worse than the SZ version, i'll admit; but it's still fun. my least favourites... i'll go with Mahi Mahi Resort (except if it's SZ) and Brinewater Springs - perhaps Scorch Gorge, too (unless it's on TC).
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So of course, after I make this poll last month they add good maps to the game. I will cover those this Sunday so stay tuned...
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I see this as a quality vs quantity situation. It’s either lots of weapon kits and content, or quality game design.
Imo the new cargo ship map is peak splatoon
I hope they see the playerbase's positive reaction to Crableg and Shipshape and rework other maps to share those good beloved qualities, such as inkable walls.
Nah, they're gonna be like "Oops, we accidentally released the unchanged beta versions of these maps, time to update them in a patch to removes the flanks and inkable walls and stuff" lol. 💀
That and I’d really like to see more stages with unique gimmicks. I know the splatfest stages in Splatoon 2 added them, but I’d love seeing more hero mode or salmon run aspects in Splat 3 stages. Grind rails would make for an interesting mechanic in a stage and there’s still a lot of ideas for unique stage ideas. I think a botanical garden-esc stage would be cool
Good news for Mahi-Mahi at least, that one got a massive improvement last month.
I forgot that Hammerhead Bridge was even a returning map. I genuinely did not realize that it was supposed to be the same map as the S1 version.
I think the developers said that is not the same map. The name is the same cause it's the same bridge but they treat it like a new map.
At least that's what I remember from rassicas' latest video witch is the translation of an interview
@@jasonzervos You're correct. It's supposed to in some ways almost be symbolic of Splatoon 3 itself according to them, as the bridge itself is what opened up the connection between Inkopolis and Splatsville and Splatsville's big rise. And the fact that it's the same location with the same name but is now a new stage with new gameplay symbolizes many things about the game according to the devs...too bad the "new gameplay" of the stage sucks and is worse than the original.
@@legoboy7107Yeah, it was supposed to showcase the passage of time
The under-construction bridge from Splatoon 1 like 6 years ago has since been completed
Crableg and Shipshape would definitely be up in the top 10 or 15 best for me personally, they feel fun to navigate and actually let you spread out more
for sure theyre a huge leg up over the other post-launch originals weve gotten so far, i think itll only put into perspective how poor umami/barnacle are (and to a lesser extent brinewater) given a bit more time
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@@algernon6358 You know that Barnicle isn't bad, its Ok
@@sheepxs5413 nah not as bad after the lde nerf in patch 5.0.0, bomb spam made the right raised route out of spawn with the grates completely unviable a lot of the time so hopefully itll be a litte bit easier to push out of spawn now
@sheepxs5413 Barnicle isn't that bad but it still uses the tetris shape piece that a lot of people don't like. It's like the best rendition of the tetris piece layout and even then it has some issues. Crableg is if mincemeat was good and Shipshape has actual flanks and flanks with paintable walls on all sides
I find it funny how hammerhead bridge was better under construction then finished.
Man I still remember the hype for Manta Maria as Splatoon 2s first post launch map and playing on a boat in the ocean during summer was the perfect time to release it
I like to call it manta marina instead of maria
manta was so hype. playing on a boat was something new and it felt unique to the series. i was excited for alot of s2 maps bc they all felt unique and different. goby arena was hype bc it was a basketball court even though it was a bad stage. i dont like how the s3 ones are looking ngl. they dont feel colorful and they all feel like mincemeat where its just a bunch of metal and brown colors.
I actually didn’t really like Manta in S2, it just kinda felt like the wrong game for it (long stage so sting ray was oppressive, missile spam was bad too, bubbles took up the ENTIRE choke point). It feels way better in S3 with the slight reworks especially to that exact choke spot, even if it lost the block I genuinely prefer how it plays in 3.
I feel like I'm biased against manta and mako mart bc during splatoon 2 I felt they were on literally every single time I played lol. Now I do look forward to playing them tho
I'm a little surprised Camp Triggerfish went unmentioned. I feel like it's a map you either love or hate
If that's true, it would probably even out and be somewhere in the middle so...
It has one of the cooler gimmicks for turf wars, while at the same time being a complete mess in ranked modes. So that does kinda make sense as to why it's polarising
Camp Zones & Tower are the two very worst map-mode combos I've ever played, honestly surprised myself that it wasn't here.
@@itsfrankie757 Camp Triggerfish's tower path is about literally the most logical place it could go to make use of the map, yet still completely and utterly illogical in execution
I wish that us Splatoon 2 & 3 players got to experience the Flounder Heights right side hallway. That looks like it goes hard
True. Was playing on Flounder earlier today, and while Flounder's nice and all, I couldn't help but think to myself "This is really making me miss the Splatoon 1 version of this map right now" and I've never even played the Splatoon 1 version because I've never played Splatoon 1.
Or S1 mahi, that one looks like it goes hard
Honestly after playing Shipshape a ton today, I think it could have made it into the top 10 here, genuinely a very good map
100%. It is SOOOOOO fun
I miss Splatoon 1 maps so bad... I want to actually flank with my Inkbrush, not just run straight at the enemy with 10 pounds of QR on my gear and hope for the best 😭
don’t forget a crap ton of sub saver for when chargers/splatlings lock you out of mid! i miss flanks man 🙃
What about Crabfish Capital?
@@Mad-Goose crableg, not crabfish lol
I thought it was fine too, aside from the lack of a left flank route (unless you count RM checkpoint), until I got matched together with a charger and we bullied the other team, sniping them the moment they set their foot out from their platform, for like 2 minutes straight
Brushes felt a lot better for me to play in S1 and I think this is why. They kind of rely on flank routes for that fast and sneaky trailblazer playstyle.
Your comment there about The Reef not being alienating to any classes makes me wonder if that’s part of the problem with the mostly lackluster stages in S3. There’s so many classes, weapons, and kit layouts that they’re afraid of getting away from the flat tetrimino shapes in case it creates a huge advantage/disadvantage for a particular class.
That’s the entire problem with them, though. The more linear they are, the WORSE the balance is, since long range options will be able to control the entire map more easily. Making maps wider and more complex pretty much always makes them better to play on because it allows for more decision making from both teams
@@TheCosmicCloud I didn’t say they were successful in doing it, just that the designs suggest trepidation. The fact that they had to add those weird poles and blockers to many maps shows they underestimated how advantageous their designs were for back lines.
@@alexgrunde6682 I definitely think they overlooked a lot of issues these type of maps would lead to, but I don't think the tetris design was an attempt at universal balance, either.
It's obviously hard to tell exactly what they were going for, but I think they *wanted* more aggressive playstyles to be the norm, possibly as a result of the very stally/ special spamy meta of Splatoon 2. I guess I see it as more of a failed experiment rather than them being timid
@@TheCosmicCloud Oh hello, it's the guy that has 10 stars on the Splattershot!
I played a 7.5 minute match of clam blitz on Mincemeat, because no one could score. I think that's the only time I've gone into tied overtime so it's not surprising it's last to me.
I hate that the map is so tiny that they realistically could not have put the basket anywhere else if they tried. I'm 100% on Mincemeat Clams being the single worst map mode in the entire series, it's that bad
same thing happened to me twice. genuinely horrible map in almost every conceivable way
It's worth noting that in the first voting the 15 stages that got the least votes moved on to be worst contenders. However while the first part was based on lack of popularity the following parts were based on their infamy. Had the original voting included a vote for the worst it's almost certain the likes of Saltspray Rig would've made it.
While this is true I don't think it would have changed the worst, rig almost escaped the bottom 20 and had quite a sizeable amount of votes
im starting to see a trend here... all of the splatoon 3 reworked stages are in the worst list while all of the original layouts are in the best tier. really shows how bad they butchered the stages in this game.
No Camp Triggerfish in the Top 10?
Unbelievable, poll was rigged lol
I’m surprised Shellendorf Institute didn’t end up on the worst list… the setting was cool but gameplay wise it had to be one of the worst in Splatoon 2
I think shellendorf single handledly ruined clams for me in 2
I appreciate all the fun diagrams strewn about, but yeah for some reason I didn’t like it. Splatoon 2’s maps never clicked for me, I assume that’s because I didn’t use the map enough.
I was so used to using the Gamepad in Splat 1, looking at that thing ingrained every corner into my memory!
I actually really liked Shellendorf lmao especially after it got renovated.
Actually one of my favorite maps for Splatoon 2
Cant agree shellendorf was fun
Mako beating S1 Mahi feels wrong to me. Also it’s very sad how only Museum out of the returning S1 maps in S3 could have both versions discussed together. It really makes me wish the other three stages get reworked/reverted in the future (though crableg existing somewhat satisfies my desire to play on S1 Hammerhead)
Surprised at the absence of Undertow actually! It's a strong guilty pleasure to me so I'm honestly pretty surprised and happy a lot of people didn’t think it was that bad too!
Im also shocked it was absent personally i really really dislike the map its one of my least favorites of all time. Not helped that most of my 100x games have been on that map and ive lost about 80% of them. Ig people just like it more than eeltail and scorch n the like.
@@NotSnak I understand tbh. It’s not great on turf war at all. I LOVE the ranked versions though, especially rainmaker
5:30 Chara, it’s pronounced AnCHo-V games (ch has in chase) as it’s a pun on the Anchovie fish, which has a soft ch sound
What a good list. Found myself nodding along with basically every entry.
What gets me about Mahi Turf (S3) is its spawn area, especially before the water drops. In some of the aggressive Turf lobbies, pretty much every game opens with one team locking out the other for the first minute or so. It's boring when your team is doing it, it's frustrating when it happens to you. They badly need to rework that spawn area with the ramps.
haven’t played shipshape but after doing crab leg on turf and CB last night, i can comfortably say it’s one of their best splat 3 maps. it felt like i actually had options for approaching the map as a whole. feels good man
Crableg and Shipshape immediately take the top 2 spots of Splatoon original maps, honestly, including reworked maps
mince meat: You seem bewildered but it was a sniper fight. The team with the best sniper or the best sniper counter wins.
If the enemy had a decent sniper, and you had a timid team, you are losing. Mince meant rotations became auto-skip.
so many s3 maps just became "which team has the better charger?"
@@rubellite4480 I agree some. But when I play with random people on other maps and they are too timid , I will take responsibility for the charger. Some maps like mince meat it's just too hard for 1 person to harass a skilled charger and succeed. Part of the "hallway" problem I guess.
Honestly I'm glad we finally got actual maps. While I'm not a big fan of Crableg due to it being overall just not very interesting at all, I do think it is much, MUCH better than most of the things we've gotten. And Shipshape is fun, I enjoy it! On hopium over here, wanting to believe that this is just a taste of what's to come.
Best:
1. The Reef
2. Flounder Heights
3. Museum d’Alfonsino
4. Mako Mart
5. Mahi-Mahi Resort(Splatoon 1)
6. Anchovy Games
7. Manta Maria
8. Piranha Pit
9. Urchin Underpass
10. Hammerhead Bridge(Splatoon 1)
Worst:
10. Port Mackerel
9. Kelp Dome
8. Scorch Gorge
7. Eeltail Alley
6. Brinewater Springs
5. Wahoo World
4. Walleye Warehouse
3. Mahi-Mahi Resort(Splatoon 3)
2. Hammerhead Bridge(Splatoon 3)
1. Mincemeat Metalworks
Hammerhead Bridge didn't return in Splatoon 3. I only know that stage as "Needlenose Water Crossing" (something my brother came up with)
Why not "Hammerhead Hallway"?
camp triggerfish will always be my favorite map its just so fun
This gets me both hyped and worried for the Reef on Splatoon 3. On one hand, I'm excited to have the best map come to Splatoon 3. On the other hand, I worry about the changes the developers will make to this map that could make it unplayable...
I know it is in the code but… DO YOU REALLY THINK SPLATOON DEVS WOULD PORT A GOOD STAGE INTO SPLATOON 3 (impossible) 🙄😃🤓
@@ihavenoideahowtocallmyself3849 They promised to port the Reef into the game, so I have no doubt they will. The question then becomes, “how?”
@@Exl6243 FIrst of all, that was a joke and second, I know it is in the files, but from what I know, the only returning stage which was officially announced way in advance was Flounder Heights in the Direct, maybe you can correct me please?
@@ihavenoideahowtocallmyself3849 Actually you’re right. I could have sworn there was an announcement, but for the life of me I can’t find it. My bad…
This video should be mandatory viewing for the devs, so they can understand what not to do in the future, and correct the mistakes made in S3, especially on the S1 ported stages
It's "ancho". I just realised why too. I thought it was a pun on "anchor" this whole time, but I just realised, its a pun on "anchovie".
I want the Reef to come back with a superjump Reefslider small short video
I'm a little surprised that Sturgeon was not in the top 10, I always thought that was one of the best maps in Splatoon 2 specifically.
im pretty sure that, compared to other options (especially the reef), sturgeon has a lot of problems like the left side being an instant death option a lot of the time as well as the tower control route
Saltspray and Moray Towers, while probably worse competitive stages, are leagues more fun than a lot of S3 stages.
Do YOUR hallway maps have verticality and the ✨C R A N E✨?
Yeah, I didn't think so
Can't really argue their lol
Oh god the crane. The seagulls.
Too bad Nintendo figured out how to make maps right after you made the poll
I love how everyone ranked piranha pit at 9 forgetting that s1 piranha pit rainmaker existed.
^ THIS
I’m honesty surprised not to see Sturgeon on the best list. The gimmick is pretty cool and the bottom of mid is so much fun to play on. I will say spawn isn’t that great but I still think it’s a pretty good map and hey, there has to be a reason it’s the only map in the series that’s been in every Splatoon game so far.
Edit: Strugeon is not in 1, my bad 💀
What are you even saying? Sturgeon ship yard is only in splatoon 2 and 3, and the enemy has a height advantage after crossing the moving bridge
@@loading...948 I swear it was in 1 bro, I’m might be wrong tho. For the second part, I’m talking about under the bridge, should’ve been more clear.
@@wildbutterfreeSturgeon is not in 1
With how many times that map appeared whenever I played Splatoon 2 and 3 in the past years, I've grown so sick of that map haha
I love Sturgeon...but I play Luna sooooooo
I'm so happy Ancho-V Games is on this list. I actually got chills when it came up because to me it has the biggest nostalgia factor of any Splatoon map. I got the game for christmas in 2015 and when I opened it a month later and saw the announcement for Ancho V I got so excited because I felt like I was still part of the experience and not left out bc I didnt get to play around release. In S1 the biggest joy I had was just painting along all the different routes out of spawn and in Ancho-V I could shoot all the fans to zoom around! You could just explore the maps for funsies in turf war and I loved that. Ancho-V is such a creative map and it looks really beautiful too (to me at least). I love when they add aspects from the single player into the multiplayer stages, it makes the in game world feel more connected. I really hope they will add Ancho-V into S3 without taking away it's magnitude and essense. I am also hoping for Urchin and Bluefin to be added, I think they'd add a needed flair of nostalgia into S3. I liked how wide and tall S1 maps were and lets hope the devs will understand how well this would work in S3 as well. I think we're on a good track now tho given how Crableg (and Shipshape) actually show that more.
Its a shame the reef hasnt been added yet
Ikr but it’s fine cause they gave us 2 new W maps
They'd destroy it in this game. Truly a monkeys paw request
They're busy trying to find out how to redesign it to make the bridge the only way through to the other side of the map. ☠
Damn why did the game with the coolest maps have to be the one I didn’t get to experience. 2 had fun stages but all of the S3 original stuff is a nightmare save for shipshape and crableg
i didn’t think barnacle & dime was that loved
Mahi-mahi had some pretty bad renovations to their resort.
It’s ancho v with the ch because it’s a spin on anchovies
In splatoon 4 they gotta bring a lot of unique modes, original and fun maps, 4×4 battles and the community favourite maps
Hammerhead S1 is a fun map but I agree with it's placement at number 10. Stuff like Bluefin Depot and other Splatoon 1 maps are higher up my list of favorites
walleye's bad but i'll take it any day over splatoon 3 hammerhead simply because it has side routes to avoid long range weapons in mid high ground. are they good side routes? idk but it's better than nothing
Imagine when they add the reef into splat 3, the bridge is just Broken, and that’s the only change they do.
They would say something like: "Pearl broke it. Again."
The only thing hammerhead has over its original is the little nils statue easter egg
I kinda like scorche in turf war, the mid feels like a battle arena where everyone is fighting and triying to push. Also it has good routes out of spawn and the theme is my favourite of splatoon 3's
then you, my friend, have never been up against a competent e liter / slosher / splatling /squelcher. there is only ONE way out of mid and mid itself is very tiny and cramped with the giant tower in the middle, and chargers have an easy time since they can see basically all the routes, both in and out of mid
@@joshwash2 Maybe i'ts becaus I main dualies, but I was never afraid for chargers. I just go like *dash* *dash* on the bridge and I kill them
@@manu_18_lr24 I get what you're saying but stuff like sloshers and crabs can get you easily
@@manu_18_lr24 understandable, but wait till a cracked 2000xp charger 360 no scopes you, that shits terrifying
So glad museums finally getting love after all these years
I remember although it was popular back in spaltoon 1.
It kinda got overshadowed by Mahi, and some people didn’t like the gimmick.
Always been my favorite stage, happy it’s getting more recognition now
You could argue that Reef is the best map, but it was so unhealthy for Splatoon 2. The special spam made Reef feel like Wahoo World 2.0
Video 188 of commenting on Chara videos till undercover gets fixed
Walleye Warehouse, Kelp Dome, and Port Mackerel have been personal favorites of mine since Splatoon 1, so to see them be so hated, I understand some of it, but unlike the Splatoon 3 corridor maps, there’s actual cover to hide behind on these maps. Kelp Dome lesser so but it made up for it by having 3 routes around the map. I won’t defend Port Mackerel’s splat zones mode, since the zones were miles apart, but otherwise these maps were just a lot of fun to pop out of unexpected places and catch people unaware!
I remember loving Kelp back in 1
I have some good memories from it
Walleye and port are corridor maps
I actually kinda like Splatoon 2's version of Port Mackeral Splat Zones, probably the one mode I actually like on that map. But in that game they completely reworked the zone so it no longer has that issue you described, so that's part of why.
Honestly I used to hate Snapper Canal in Splatoon 2 but after a while it really grew on me. Not my favorite by any means but I miss it and I hope it comes back in Splatoon 3.
I think my favorite stage is Mako Mart or Anchovy Games.
I’m gonna say it, Manta Maria is my personal favourite in the whole series.
I don’t honestly have a reason, it’s just always been enjoyable
And hot take, I actually enjoy Mincemeat MORE Than Eeltail
I do have a reason for it being my favorite, the secondary objective of reaching the enemy spawn boat for maximum psychic damage.
I'm gonna be real, anyone who didn't vote for Walleye Warehouse for the worst stage was objectively incorrect. It is literally fucking unplayable, displaying everything that makes Splatoon 3's stages bad but taken to their absolute limit. The only logical reason people voted as anything else for the worst is recency bias.
100%
If they dont bring back unchanged reef im
gonna scream
I actually LIKE the water lanes in mahi's S3 TC map because it means you can't just rush people down mindlessly, and you have to be careful in how you move around. It feels skill testing which is what I like about it.
I like them because watching people fall into the water is funny af 💀
Honestly I’m surprised I didn’t see undertow in worst.
It’s cramped, ugly, and isn’t so much a hallway as it is an hourglass since there’s no actual mid to play on.
Nice video though, you should do a part 2 after Splatoon 3 is over
Shipshape is actually the most fun map theyve added to splatoon 3. It had identity, its still kind of a hallway (not to be compared with new hammerhead o-o) but the amount of paintable walls and the amount of ups and downs is just a blast to play on. However.... crableg.......... :( (i dont like it)
Post-drizzle season 2023 launch, the new maps are good! Shipshape is a bit too campy for me, though I still enjoy it and think it's decent, and Crableg is actually really fun! (I have only played the Turf War variants though, so take my opinion with a grain of salt)
I think the positive reaction to those distinct bad stages is because a bad map thats bad in a unique way can still be fun and stand out. Balance is severely overrated in terms of how much it drives enjoyment, especially in things like map design. An unbalanced and poorly designed stage can find itself being fun through the sheer novelty of its terribleness.
6:58 okay hear me out... if they didnt halfass the gimmick it woulda been loved
Nintendo has answered our prayers for real maps 🥹
I actually always loved Walleye Warehouse. Yea the spawn region thing is bad for sure, but every single time I played it on S2 I just had a blast. The drops on the far left felt fun and dynamic, and the hallway on the right was too fun to throw curling bombs down. Also sad some of my favourite S2 maps aren't in top 10, those being Musselforge, Albacore, and Skipper. I didn't follow the community much with Splatoon 2 but I figured Skipper Pavilion was really popular? Guess I was wrong.
Really interesting results in this poll! My personal fav stage is Bluefin Depot because I enjoyed the split layout. Also I thought the zones version was set up quite unusual to one side, though being inkable with long-range weapons and specials from the other.
Hot take, I actually really liked Kelp Dome. I didn’t have Splatoon 1, so if you want to educate me on it in that game then feel free, but in Splatoon 2, it was probably one of my favorites.
If they're going to give us bad maps, give us _fun_ bad maps. Where's the splatoon equivalent of hightower, just dumb fun?
Honorable Mention to Mussleforge for being one of the best
I'll be honest, I actually REALLY like Brinewater Springs. The option to rush at mid in like 5 seconds is really fun for me. Even though it's not an actual flank or anything, it still feels nice to be able to go the normal way, drop down and be a jump away from mid, or go a little further after the drop and take that risky ramp that almost takes you around mid. Although yeah, the lack of inkable walls, especially when the map first dropped, is pretty annoying.
I personally feel like I rarely get locked out, but I have been on the other side locking people out so that might be a lucky biased. It feels like the small map size supports a highly aggressive playstyle. The map feels like a Nuketown, for people who played CoD. Only a few seconds into the match and you could already find yourself in a firefight, depending on how the other team starts.
I’m suprised reef won, I just never really thought of it much. It always was just meh to me, but I’m glad to see it!
With mahis turf layout as someone who mainly plays the game casually in turf it feels pretty awful. The main issue is its size makes gaining specials basically impossible which can make it boring and also it feels way too cramped most the match.
Watch them ruin The Reef too as per usual Splatoon 3 standards.
I'M SO HAPPY THE REEF IS THIS HIGH UP!!!💕💕🎀⭐ I love that stage so so much
Also, the new maps added in 3 are a BLAST, I can already tell Crableg is gonna be one of ny favourites
It looks pretty at night, has a cool easteregg, fantastic layout, amazing background,,,✨✨I love it
Shipshape is cool too, it's not as interesting as Crableg imo but it is SUPER cool! I really hop they notice the fandoms positive reaction to these and continue to make interesting and good maps like these
If the reef was added in Splatoon 3, they would probably make over half the walls uninkable and make it worse
They barely changed the Splatoon 2 maps so I don't think they would do that
@@91yugo77 They did remove a few inkable walls on Manta though.
@@legoboy7107 I mean yah but it's still the same map even without 1 or 2 walls that became uninkable, it's not full reworks like splatoon 1 maps so Im not too worried about them making it unplayable
Im actually kinda intrigued how this would look now that the rest of splatoon 3's maps have been released, Ramen, Crableg, Shipshape, and Marlin are all pretty solid, and the Barnicle and Unami reworks really improved them
I once spawn camped on walleye so hard that the other team got less then 10% of the stage covered. Absolutely GARBAGE
The bottom 10 were very interesting in my opinion. I’m very surprised umami wasn’t there
umami is pretty good imo for clams and somewhat for zones, but not really that good for tower and rain so it probably evened out and ended up near the middle
Once your ready, I can't wait for the next round of the best and worst weapons of every class.
There is nothing wrong with moray towers and it deserves a spot in S3 where SQUID SURGE EXISTS - All of you haters are to blame for the most fun unique stage being abandoned in the game it would matter most!
All they have to do is add some tarps like in hagglefish for some overhead protection and some extra anti-charger blocks and BOOM, good map
I’m a bit worried they’d give it the flounder treatment, though
Kirby 64 music is a quick way to get a like out of me. Congrats editor
Honestly, the fact that Splatoon 3 maps dominated the worst top 10 is depressing. I don’t understand what Nintendo is thinking with designing that game’s maps.
I personally think that new Flounder is way better than old Flounder. Fighting sloshers and blasters on old Flounder was a horrible experience because of how tall it was while the new one isn't built as perfectly for those weapons
So devs. ADD BACK The Reef and DON’T change a SINGLE INCH of the map. and also bring back Splashdown like you already have everything from code to graphics like WHY it’s a fun special and you literally already have it in hero mode
It's poetic that not a single Splatoon 3 stage made it into the Top 10
As someone who's first Splatoon online experience was with 3. I knew 3's map designs were already lackluster, and everyone else already thought so too. But man, looking at the footage of some of the earlier games maps making me feel really jealous I missed out on those. Like seriously, I'm now realizing that 3's map designs are actually atrocious in comparison. At least I'm liking the recent 2 so far.
The last time I was this early brella hadn't been buffed 💪
Is that a flex?
@@Style_224 more like an awful joke, but I appreciate the good faith interpretation
Mahi-Mahi being under Makomart is absolutely crazy
It’s kinda funny, despite being a short range weapon user, I actually do really well on and really like Brinewater??? It’s got a decent balance of wide open space, closed in areas, and of course the traditional Japanese hot spring setting is never a bad thing.
Not the 2 worst s3 maps being the highest ☠️
I’m very curious where my personal favorite stage, Inkblot Art Academy, fell. I thought it would at least be top ten, even if it was low in it, but still. Very curious.
I love Moray Towers.
I said it. I SAID IT!
The small fighting area in the middle with only three ways to climb up was perfect.
Honestly, same. It might not have been the best map competitively, but casually it was just so fun
The fire emblem music 🫡👏🏽💯
wait how did arowana get out of this alive???
5:30
ancho V
like the fish anchovy??
THE NEW MAPS R SO MUCH FUN
ultra stamp in mincemeat when on a rail or hitting it slows down to a dreadful pace, and with the grates... some weapons have "too safe" approaches that can lead to constant camping. Add a Zipcaster to the mix and the entire competition can snowball into an one-sided L.
How does moving on a grate slow your movement speed?
Blackbelly Skatepark is my favourite map and I'm sad that it wasn't in this video at all, I just hope it gets added to Splatoon 3
"LOOK MOM IM A STATISTIC"
i've never played the other 2 games; only Splatoon 3. i can only judge the maps by their Splatoon 3 versions.
i'm a big fan of Crableg Capital and Shipshape Cargo Co. they're on par with Mako Mart and Flounder Heights in terms of my favourite maps.
Crableg Capital on TC is a tad worse than the SZ version, i'll admit; but it's still fun.
my least favourites... i'll go with Mahi Mahi Resort (except if it's SZ) and Brinewater Springs - perhaps Scorch Gorge, too (unless it's on TC).
FYI it’s ancho with a ch, cause it’s based off the word “anchovy”