It shows how niche the community still is sadly. Almost every single large review site/tech youtuber exclusively focuses on 2D 1080p to 4k comparisons. Completely ignoring VR and the fact that just because one card has better 4K performance, that it doesn’t mean that it’s VR performance is also better than the card it’s being compared to.
thx for this wish there were more pcvr videos like this comparing specs and build setups and gpus and cpus and explaining the pros and cons and how to overcome any issues.
I really liked this review. In the future, it'd be great to see Steam Link added to the testing, as I think that's going to catch on hard as an alternative to Virtual Desktop (especially if SteamLink eventually gets fully supported on Linux!).
I'm not looking for a new GPU but it's interesting watching all of your videos when it comes to benchmarking. There's not a ton of VR videos that go into details on each GPU.
I Haven't tried it yet, getting a headset in a couple of days. From what I've heard from other people with this card it doesn't seem like that should be an issue though.@@OutLime
Obviously this is a lot harder to benchmark due to the nature of the game itself, but, do you think you could start including VRChat into these tests? After all, since the entire point of VRChat is that everyone is using their own avatar with its own textures, materials, shaders, etc. it's a very different conversation when talking about VRAM compared to a more "directed" VR game with a specific scope.
have fun with the drivers and black screens i have this card in this moment in my system and have so much black screens have to give the card back and buy another card instead
just use ddu and safe mode when you uninstall nvidia drivers and i recommend if you are having driver issues updating all chipset ect. drivers checking your overclock is stable on ram and cpu or uninstalling amd adrenaline and just install drivers only then use msi afterburner or something like it
Sick. I bought one and just put it in last night for using it on my sim racing rig. Glad I didn't make a bad choice. ACC looks very good and playable. Was hoping you would do this before my return period ended so thanks!
@@benmitchell3406 I just tried it last night on the defaults and even then it looked great. With some tweaking it could look even better. I was on 72Hz and it was still super smooth and consistent.
@@Gener4lx I'm currently running a 3600x. I can get close to the settings he is running in this video, but I for sure have a CPU bottleneck. Still performed really well though.
Glad that both Meta and AMD have got their acts together at long last! I'm going to be getting either a 7900XT or 7900XTX next year in April or May 😎😁😎
Virtual Desktop seems to be prone to weird problems. I've got a really bizarre one going on now. When I'm in VR mode in any graphic setting higher than potato I get a weird kind of graphcs smearing that looks kind of like there's an image burned into the lens (there isn't). Another thing that's odd is I can set the graphics to ultra and the bandwidth to 150 and 120 hz and the ASW never kicks in no matter what game I'm playing. This is on a 3080 which shouldn't definitely need ASW at those settings for games like Saints & Sinners. Anyway, I've tried everything short of re-installing my OS on the computer, including going back to my earliest restore points, installing an older version of Virtual Desktop[, rebooting, reinstalling, every combination of settings, etc. Tried discord but they didn't really have any brilliant ideas either, apparently either I'm the only one this has happened to or it's extremely rare. Anyway I've thrown up my hands at this point. Link and Air Link work fine, and while I prefer Virtual Desktop, it's not worth nuking my OS since I have another option. Anyway, good luck, hope you fair better fixing your VD problem than I did with mine.
Thanks for this video! You can't really find much information when it comes to Radeon GPU's and PCVR besides that they are not recommended, luckily this video shows the opposite. Gonna wait for those sweet deals on black friday!
Thank you for this review, I was waiting it for quite a long time! Now I am definetely buying it. Even if rumored 4070/4080 Super series will be released in 2024, I bet it won't cost around 500$ even close, so to get such a nice performance (even in something as demanding as VR) for 500$ is a steal, imo.
4070 super should be 600$ and will smash the 7800xt in every way, i would urge you to reconsider (the 4070 super will dominate the midrange since it will basically perform really close to a 4070ti for 200$ less)
@@nerd20fromdiscord sorry dude, but I don't believe in Nvidia anymore after whole 4000 series *&^$show ("4080" 12GB and 80-series card for 1200$, etc.). Also, for example, I was waiting for a year for a 3070 refresh with 16GB - and it never arrived. So all those rumors about Super series can potentially lead to the same situation (noone knows what and when will happen). Plus I just can't believe that Huang will suddenly sell a newer and better card for less money. I bet it's goal is to change the older lineup that will be sold at a discount to clear the shelfs after this whole Super-series announcement. But it still won't be a good deal (I mean the original cards at a discount) - even if 4080 will become 1000$ it's still, imo, too much for it and 4070/4070 TI still will have only 12GB, so even at a discount it is a no-go for me personally. So I made my choice - 7800 XT it is!
@@nerd20fromdiscordconsiderating the market share in pc and the advantages in ai area, I really don't think nvida will decrease the price of the new Gpu (If have )😂
@@DEADSnAkeBY Amen. I was thinking of getting a 4070 but the 7800XT in my country is $100 cheaper while being 10-20% better FPS-wise. So I get to win with AMD *and* not reward Nvidia for their blatant abuse of their market shares with their "4060" release (4050 BTW, can't even outperform the 3060 at times). After this VR review (which was my only crux), team red is the way to go
@@nerd20fromdiscordyeah but still 12 giga if vram😢 for 4070s and 4700ti super with 16g will cost as much as 7900xt so if the drivers are fixed now in occulus q2 i think i will go for a 7800xt
Thanks for the video. Actually I was planing to buy a RX 7800 XT and use it with Virtualdesktop. But the stuttering you mentioned makes me now hesitant. Please can you post a new video once you have solved the virtual desktop issues. Thanks a lot. By the way I am using a Pico4.
great comprehensive list, i just wish you could hop in a vrchat world since sometimes that can be super taxing depending on the world, if u need any suggestions for testing worlds lmk
I've seen a couple of black friday deals on this card, but I don't want to pull the trigger after the glitches you encountered. Now i think the drivers are fixed, any chance of an emergency retest. It doesn’t have to be a full blown review. Many thanks
Btw, on Quest 3 it arguably doesn't make sense anymore to play Red Matter 2 through PCVR, because the native version looks just as good (or even better since there is no encoding?).
Red Matter 2 does look really good on Quest 3 native. While I haven't spent a bunch of time using my Quest 3 yet I did see some janky-ness with some of the shadows on the native Quest 3 version that are flawless on PCVR. So it's still worth it to play it on PCVR IMO, but there's not doubt Red Matter 2 looks better than any other stand alone game I've ever played. Resolution and texture wise it's right up there with PCVR but there is still more work to be done with dynamic lighting and shadows.
looks like a pretty sweet card once the 8000 gen is out, could finally replace my old 5800 I am just not willing to shell out 500-600 usd for a gpu so I will drop one gen back to get some deals on it once the next gen comes out!
Oh, I didn't know about any of these issues. I bought a 7800XT and a Quest3 recently, but haven't experienced any problems I think. What I did experience however is that Virtual Desktop totally destroyed my system. :D ALL applications, including browser tabs, started to freeze out for 5-10-20 seconds at random but relatively frequent intervals. And I mean not in VR mode, but generally.
bought it on the right time, this problem has been for 2 years at least, I actually just downgraded from a 6800xt to a 3070 just because vr was unplayable and thats the only thing I needed the gpu for (I use a 1080p monitor so anything can run fine 1080 nowdays)
my 7800xt sapphire pure, AV1 has no problems :) I see the difference between my rx 6800, so crisp as if it's directly connected with a display. I love it! I no longer get the feeling of sickness
Be interested in the comparison with the 4070 (or Ti), and DLSS vs FSR for VR titles that support it such as No Man's Sky. I'm looking to upgrade from a 6600 XT, and locally the cheapest 7800 XT and 4070 cards trade places depending on the current specials (currently @$35AUD cheaper for the Sapphire 7800XT vs the PNY RTX 4070). I have had a lot of issues with terrible jaggies and shimmering edges in link/airlink with the 6600 XT (also running a 5800X3D), regardless of settings/driver version. Fewer such issues in VD though.
Personally done some experimenting and upscaling does not work well with the quest 2, you save on performance but it looks worse and felt less depth in the enviroments, I had to turn upscaling to high quality and still did not look a nice as in native resolution, so I rather have native res for now. perhaps its a problem of the displays, since they are so small pixel density its already quite compromised
@@SillyMonkeysLikeApples What resolution are you running from the Oculus/Steam settings? Due to encoding etc, it usually looks pretty bad unless you have the rendering resolution set above the native resolution of the panels by a decent amount. With the 6600 XT the Oculus settings for 1.0X are only at 3264 x 1648, which is significantly UNDER the native 3664 x 1920. Interestingly there's quality gains to be had from going well over the native resolution, without using FSR/DLSS etc, so I'm not sure where the best visuals for the performance would lie. I've only really fooled around with using FSR in No Man's Sky, and the visual downgrade is very obvious.
@@Joric78 maybe Im missing something? usually quest link stays at recommended (which its over native display resolution 4.100 by 1.900 or something like that) (recommneded res depends on your hardware and its automatic from quest software). But the upscaling its something to be used to render on lower res to later upscale on the normal resolution (ex, 1080p monitor renders at 720p and upscales back to 1080). that is what I tried and looks worse, I did not see any point of upscaling over since it consumes gpu power as just rendering the game on native, plus its not looking as nice as in native res. What worked for me always its play on native and increase resolution but without upscaling, it consumes some extra gpu power but makes it sharp and there is no weird things going on
@@SillyMonkeysLikeApples I think the recommended render resolution is based on your system (and largely GPU) performance. The recommended resolution on my PC with a 5800X3D and 6600 XT is 3264 x 1648. That's well below native. People are reporting that there's very noticeable quality improvements all the way up to the 5408 x 2736 max (which might be a result of the barrel distortion correction and ensuring that every pixel is still rendered 1:1 at a minimum). My point was that I'm not sure where the improvement from increasing the native rendering resolution crosses over with the performance benefits of upscaling in terms of the ideal compromise in image quality. In other words, are you better off running a higher resolution upscaled or just a lower render resolution?
@@Joric78 in my personal experience, run the native resolution which is 1:1 (gains after that come at a big gpu performance cost and its not very noticeably). What I do to get a bit more definition its depending on the game but add a 30% resolution on in game setting, and use some Anti Alaising thing to blend the pixels and make it look smoother. Somehow just adding that 30% on the quest link software makes things harder to carry on my gpu, because you are rendering the entire desktop environment plus the game, I assume. Some pcvr games are very demanding but others like alyx and assetto corsa can run amazing in my old 1660s, jumping to a 3070 did not improve the visuals or the fps for me, but having performance headroom, no casual frame drops and run on the fans on low rpms its something I enjoy pretty much, as soon as i push I meet the limits quite quickly, dont see much visual improvement and frame drops are annoying for me
I'm on weeks of research because I can't afford to f*** this up lol. How is your experience with the card? I'm deciding between this and a 4070 but I realized I need it to do good in VR too, I have a quest 3 and would like to run it at its native resolution in PCvr
@@SupaTrendingDaily 7800xt is a great card, probably the best value on the market atm by large margins, VR occasionally requires a bit of setting tinkering, but it did on my 1080ti as well. Pretty much all the RDNA3 VR issues have been fixed for 6 months or more now, and whatever smaller issues are lingering can usually be fixed fairly easily.
@@PineyJustice well I'm finding out if I were to buy amd, I would go with the 7900 gre because they're pretty much the same price. I can't find any white ones though.
@@SupaTrendingDaily Sapphire makes a 7900 GRE pure which is white. The GRE is pretty good yeah, especially if you get lucky and can OC your vram on it up to full 20gbps speeds.
Thanks again for this video, the 7800xt is now the card I am getting this black week to build my new PC and use it for PCVR as well, great stuff! By the way, did you get the AV1 to work? Saw other replied that it was a bug well known in the VD-app. Best regards!
Can confirm that the Stuttering Issue still persists to this day. And it really makes me Question if I want to keep my card... Wanted to go Team Red sooo bad, as I love their Ryzen CPU´s but my experience so far has been plagued by BSOD´s random crashes, overheating card because of the horrible horrible AMD Adrenaline Software reading the Fans wrong... If you´re someone who loves to fix stuff, this Card is for you, but if you just want to use your machine --> go Green ^-^
@@istvan.designhmm i tried that actually, it made microstutters less severe, but the other issues persisted :( didnt had fTPM Problem with my gtx 1080.
I RMAed my rx 7900 xtx 2 months ago and got a 4080 instead, and i'm happy with it, AV1 in Virtual Desktop with a Quest 3 works at a stable 120 fps in Godlike Mode without any problems, while en- and decoding latency usually is about 2 ms higher than HEVC(~7ms)
i have a 7800xt have black screens on high demanding games not reproducible but 17 black screens in 3 weeks thats a lot for me and i have on monday give this card back to seller and buy 4070
@@domeberlin4480 Games crashed all the time with the 7900 xtx (especially Unreal Engine Games), I think it’s a problem with the drivers. And Ryzen 7000 also seems to have Bios related issues with Ram instability, this gen of AMD Hardware is weird
I really appreciate your videos they are comprehensive and at the same time informative. Do you have plans to do one with the 7800 XTX scine the revised drivers etc. ? Trying to decide between the 2
I upgraded from a 3060 Ti to a 7800 XT and Alyx isn't as smooth anymore on my Rift S, lots of stuttering on DX11 and Vulkan. Do I have to change something in Oculus settings to sort this out?
@@hburners361 Eventually what solved 99% of all stutters for me was changing the active runtime in the Oculus app from SteamVR to OpenXR, and also running Alyx with -novid -nowindow launch options. Running on the latest 24.2.1 Adrenalin driver.
Thank you! I need this video that i'm interested in this. Though, could you test this config with mod vr? For example luke ross's Cyberpunk or other mods?
Ha, you were a little bit too late with your vid. Last Breachers update included additional bloom settings. But honestly: Great work. I really aprreciate your VR GPU benchmarks. I personally will still go with nvidia for vr, just keeping in mind how issue heavy the last amd gen has been, and how the current gen of amd cards started. I think, we can rely on one thing: If an issue occurs, you better be damn patient if you own an amd card. Other than that: Enjoy, as long as it works.
I play DCS. I just got into VR. I bought the RX 7900 XTX a few months ago. I decided to go back to Nvidia and bought a 4080. No problem with it on flat screen. Just got frustrated with VR.
Thanks you for this video, I did ask you a week ago about 7900xt vs 4070 ti. You answer was great, sorry for not getting back on it. But basically you suggested the Radeon and Yeah that is the way I intend to go. This video made me even more sure of it. Just so close to black week so hoping the get deal. Thanks for your answer and this video, very helpful 🙏🙏🙏🙏🫣
@@ollum1 I actually ended up selling my 7900xt for a 4080 and the difference in clarity is night and day especially in virtual desktop. The 7900xt was good enough on most games but on some games it was very unplayable. Even getting a 4070 would be an improvement in terms of VR clarity
HI, i bought the rx7900xtx, does ist work better yet? or is it still bad ? i dont understand all sorry. i only want to know if i could use the 7900xtx good now.
Im running a 7800XT but im having that jittering / double vision issue. I'm running the latest drivers (24.7.1) and the issue has been presistant. Does anyone have a fix?
have you noticed if the quest 3 stars oculus link with a higher encode resolution by any chance? im assuming the quest 2 was limited because of the older, worse performing SOC.
I haven't paid attention whether the encode resolution is higher or not with the Quest 3 but graphics definitely look sharper on Quest 3 than on Quest 2 with both Quest Link and AirLink, that I can verify.
Just got a 7800xt. Tried airlink and worked but was pretty buggy so I'm assuming it was just my set up cause I don't have Ethernet. So will be trying a link cable. Third party once since meta's cables are overly expensive
My system is exactly your test machine. I have some issues I can't figure out and would love to chat with you about it. I have a blur I can't get rid of
@Maraksot78 does this gpu also work with the cablelink with the quest 2 if i cant use the airlink ? i am really thinking of buying amd but i am really not sure
Hey, i know this kinda off topic, but what kinda difference can i expect with 16gb ram to 32gb? Im about to order a 7900xt for pcvr on link cable only not airlink. Do i need to upgrade ram to? I cant seem to find any info on ram just that ppl say 32gb is better
I have the AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT card and i'm currently having a problem with the oculus app specifically. I turned the resolution back to regular but still 90 fps which should do fine. Steam vr works fine and so do the apps on my quest 3. I contacted meta and they told me my card is too new to be detected by the app (I get a "too low" specs warning in the app). Do you know any remedies?
would you recommend going for this one now, or waiting for the 4070 super? as someone who does not really care about dlss and ray tracing i am inclined to go with amd for the better flatscreen performance and vram, but if the 4070 super isn't too much more expensive i might consider it.
I'd honestly wait to see what the 4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are priced at.... imo the 4070 Ti Super is the only one worth looking into as it has a 16GB card
@@TheXev i just decided to go for a 7900 xt as i found one for $50 off and i think i'll be happy with it. as much as i want to stay with nvidia it just doesnt seem like they have a great line up this generation imo
Hello, does the AMD RX7900xt now work with VR glasses with high resolution or still not. I'm looking for a VR purely for PCVR? Can someone please give me a tip? Meta Quest 3 doesn't work well, I've already tested that. Thanks
I have Quest2, and my pc runs a RYZON 7 5700G CPU and a RADEON XFX 6700XT card. And i can't even run vrchat with any more the 8fps. Riddle Me That Batman
I remember Pavlov after it's update ran like shit it's plays fine now but when the engine update launched it's was a headache to play so that probably didt help when testing those gpus
My router is downstairs and my playspace is upstairs so the signal has to travel through a floor and a couple walls which is why you see the bandwidth fluctuate a lot but I've tried playing in the same room as my router where I get no fluctuations and the same problems exist which tells me thats not the cause of the problem. At that point I figured I'd just play in my normal play space next to my PC.
@@Maraksot78 Ahh okay I see.. I'm currently heavily considering upgrading my 3060 ti to a 7800xt, but since wireless Quest 3 pcvr over VD would be the main usecase for it's been really hard finding good comparisons before pulling the trigger.. If I may ask is VD still problematic for you? Could it maybe have to do with the setting "set bitrate automatically"? Sometimes it will set it arbitrarily low for me, causing all sorts of stuttering issues, seemingly for no reason, then setting it manually it works fine
I'm unsure myself but looking at the NZXT site to make a pc they say that RX 7800 XT isn't vr ready yet I see this is this just a case of the company being wrong or you doing something special to make it work I'm new to pc that's all
Honestly I can't diagnose why you're having a hard time hitting 90fps without being there to see what all you've got going on. Looking at flat game benchmarks on RUclips the 5800X3D does provide a slightly higher frame rate than the 12600k when using the same GPU, so that may have a little to do with it. Also I don't know what RAM speed/timings you're running and that can effect your frame rate too. For example, I was running 3600MHz CL16 DDR4 in this video and I've seen Hardware Unboxed run DDR4 3200MHz CL14 RAM that performs better than DDR4 4000MHz and faster because of the tighter timings, so that's another thing that can make a small difference depending on the game. And then, of course, depending on what all applications you have installed on your PC and processes you have running in the background, that can impact game performance as well. My test system has only the stuff I need to do these benchmark videos installed on it, because I'm trying to find the maximum performance a GPU is capable of. And then of course depending on the render resolution you're using and settings you're using, that too is going to impact performance. So yah, it may not be one thing, it may be a combination of several different things that's effecting your performance.
Hi Maraksot78, 2 questions now that Meta fixed its AMD compatibility with link. 1: Wich brand at the same level of performance deliver better image quality? and 2: Having in mind that you've tested RTX4070 TI 12gb and RX7800XT 16gb wich one gave you the better overall experience? Thanks a lot.
When it comes to ease of use, Nvidia is still superior IMO. It works perfectly pretty much right out of the box where Radeon GPU's need some tweaking in the Oculus Debug Tool to get the same experience. Personally I don't think the encode/decode issues (which is where the majority of the problems lie) with AMD is entirely AMD's fault. I feel Meta is just as much to blame, if not more so, because they seem to be coding their software to work perfectly with Nvidia GPU's and putting in far less effort with AMD GPU's, but that's just my opinion based on my observations.
@@Maraksot78I’m in the market for a card for my Q3. I’ll probably go with the 4070ti, I’d love to stay with amd but all the things I’m reading is pushing me away. I was going to pick up a 6800xt today but having to rethink it.
Hi there maraksot78 I had a question I hope you can respond personally it would mean a lot I’m switching from team green to team red and I have a rift s which is a wired headset I was wondering if it’d work with the 7800 cut as well thank you for your time
Honestly, I don't know how it will work with a wired headset like the Rift S. I assume it will work great, but I only have a Quest 2 and Quest 3, so I can only speak to those headsets. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
@@Maraksot78 my apologies for messaging you again on the subject I hope to get another reply from you I was just curious on what drivers you were using from amd when doing vr in the video appreciate you and hope to get a reply have a good day
RUclips is just a hobby of mine, I don't make videos full time, so depending on the video it sometimes takes me awhile to get one done. Anyway, I did all my testing using the Adrenalin 23.9.3 driver. The current driver is 23.11.1 just fyi. And I should say, when I tested the 7800XT with AirLink in mid October it worked great which is what I reported in my video, however... I fired it up yesterday to do a little gaming with the 7800XT using AirLink and it looked terrible. I don't know what happened between the time I first tested it and now but AirLink is not working good currently out of the box. I had to set the encode width in the Oculus Debug Tool to 3680, Link Sharpening to Normal and the Dynamic Bitrate Max to 150 and the Dynamic Bitrate Offset to 50 to get things to look good. While it does make things look nice, performance isn't butter smooth all the time. It's good most of the time but there's also a fair amount of hitching or stuttering that goes on. It's always short lived and only happens every so often so games are fully playable in my opinion, but of course it's best if there's none of that kind of stuff going on. When using a Link cable everything is great once I set the encode width to 3680 and Link Sharpening to Normal like I said in the video, but for whatever reason AirLink has decided to be fussy again. I'm planning for my next video to be about this very issue, but just my luck by the time the video is done AMD or Meta or whoever is responsible will update their software and fix it making my video obsolete. 😂
@@Maraksot78 okay thanks for the feedback I have a feeling that if you have a headset that vr should work just fine with minimal tweaking that’s a guess not a for sure thing it just sounds like if I were to hook a quest or in my case a rift s difrectly up to the 7800xt it hopefully run smooth cuz I know from hearing that amd has fixed the majority of issues of vr for the 7000 series gpus hopefully it should be fine
I've got a 7800xt and neo link. Works just fine (no virtual desk top as DP connector), but performance in DCS is woeful. 24 FPS and just an awful experience.
That's the issue with AMD it's still sketchy to setup and make it work for general use :/ performance is good but fluctuates a lot and it's just not a good experience. I'll add a bit more money, loose more raw power but at least get stability
As a 7900 XTX owner I have to say I can NOT recommend a amd gpu for VR. Especially if you want to use adrenaline, the adrenaline software is known to cause crashes with VR games, they just wont fix it for some reason.
Generally speaking AMD are better at rasterized games like what all VR is at the moments so if you can get it at a good price then as far as VR goes get one.
when i set my encode resolution width to 3680 on my quest 2 with an rx 6700 xt i get what look like warping in the right eye, it just feels off, does anyone else get this?
This is when using AirLink I assume? I've only had that happen when using AirLink but there is a way to fix it. First you need to open task manager by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del on you keyboard. In the processes tab scroll down to the Oculus processes there will be 3 or 4 of them. Right click on each one and then click 'end task'. Once they're all closed open Windows Explorer and go to C://Users/"your username"/AppData/Roaming/Oculus/sessions/"folder with a big string of numbers" you'll find three files named data.sqlite, data.sqlite-shm and data.sqlite-wal. Delete these 3 files. Now when you start up AirLink that right eye squeeze, as I call it, should be gone. When it comes back (yes I said when not if) do this process again to fix it.
I wish you included assetto corsa in this test. Acc is much more demanding in vr and for this "lower end" GPU asseto corsa would make more sense to test. Maybe you can incude both in your next test...Rx 7900 GRE perhaps? 😁
I love that you test video cards in VR as there isn't enough of this. Please keep in up! Your insights are valuable to the PC VR community. Cheers.
It shows how niche the community still is sadly. Almost every single large review site/tech youtuber exclusively focuses on 2D 1080p to 4k comparisons. Completely ignoring VR and the fact that just because one card has better 4K performance, that it doesn’t mean that it’s VR performance is also better than the card it’s being compared to.
For AV1 you need to install a beta version of Virtual Desktop. This is a known issue on the latest stable version.
Does it make a big difference?
They recently released the official fix for this issue.
Is the AV1 codec superior?
@zipppiz Duh, otherwise it wouldnt be used. Though im sure theres a couple new gpus which preform worse with av1, but who knows.
@@zipppizyes, it's fantastic with a Rtx 4080. I don't know about AMD GPU...
thx for this wish there were more pcvr videos like this comparing specs and build setups and gpus and cpus and explaining the pros and cons and how to overcome any issues.
I really liked this review. In the future, it'd be great to see Steam Link added to the testing, as I think that's going to catch on hard as an alternative to Virtual Desktop (especially if SteamLink eventually gets fully supported on Linux!).
It would be cool if you made an update video on how to perform now
I'm not looking for a new GPU but it's interesting watching all of your videos when it comes to benchmarking. There's not a ton of VR videos that go into details on each GPU.
Great to hear the RX 7800 performs well on VR as that's what I have in my PC, and I'm planning on getting a VR headset soon. 👍🏽
Do u sometimes get a black screen with rx 7800 ?
I Haven't tried it yet, getting a headset in a couple of days. From what I've heard from other people with this card it doesn't seem like that should be an issue though.@@OutLime
@@JohannAlbrecht When you receive your VR and test it, please write a review! Very interesting!
Sure thing, I'll write something down to remember. @@viktork.2076
Hey can you connect to oculus with Link Cable? Mine isn't working
Thanks for these videos man! You're the only one that actually benchmarks VR games well. I really appreciate it!
Obviously this is a lot harder to benchmark due to the nature of the game itself, but, do you think you could start including VRChat into these tests? After all, since the entire point of VRChat is that everyone is using their own avatar with its own textures, materials, shaders, etc. it's a very different conversation when talking about VRAM compared to a more "directed" VR game with a specific scope.
this ^
i've been using the 7800xt for a month and vr works very good
what VR do you have?
@@viktork.2076 quest 2
what vr do you have?
@@atakayldrrm quest 2.
easily takes anything I throw at it.
Literally just ordered this card. Glad it works. Looking forward to maxing out Modded Skyrim.
have fun with the drivers and black screens
i have this card in this moment in my system and have so much black screens have to give the card back and buy another card instead
@@domeberlin4480 OHHH so that was the reason for the black screens.. i cant return the gpu tough : (
just use ddu and safe mode when you uninstall nvidia drivers and i recommend if you are having driver issues updating all chipset ect. drivers checking your overclock is stable on ram and cpu or uninstalling amd adrenaline and just install drivers only then use msi afterburner or something like it
Sick. I bought one and just put it in last night for using it on my sim racing rig. Glad I didn't make a bad choice. ACC looks very good and playable. Was hoping you would do this before my return period ended so thanks!
That's what im looking at getting it for too
@@benmitchell3406 I just tried it last night on the defaults and even then it looked great. With some tweaking it could look even better. I was on 72Hz and it was still super smooth and consistent.
So i have problems with acc. over 90% gpu and vram utilization. with epic settings. What settings are you using?
I also have 7800xt I intend to use for reverb g2 this week. What processor do you have?
@@Gener4lx I'm currently running a 3600x. I can get close to the settings he is running in this video, but I for sure have a CPU bottleneck. Still performed really well though.
Do you think you'd consider redoing the intel arc in VR again? due to them having newer more consistent driver updates lately?
Honestly great to see AMD finally taking some W's within the GPU market.
with b&s 1.03 they have fixed performance issues with effects when in combat
Glad that both Meta and AMD have got their acts together at long last! I'm going to be getting either a 7900XT or 7900XTX next year in April or May 😎😁😎
Now resolution change seems to work for 7900 XTX as well. At least it worked for me, but I don't have 4080 to compare with. And it's great!
Virtual Desktop seems to be prone to weird problems. I've got a really bizarre one going on now. When I'm in VR mode in any graphic setting higher than potato I get a weird kind of graphcs smearing that looks kind of like there's an image burned into the lens (there isn't). Another thing that's odd is I can set the graphics to ultra and the bandwidth to 150 and 120 hz and the ASW never kicks in no matter what game I'm playing. This is on a 3080 which shouldn't definitely need ASW at those settings for games like Saints & Sinners. Anyway, I've tried everything short of re-installing my OS on the computer, including going back to my earliest restore points, installing an older version of Virtual Desktop[, rebooting, reinstalling, every combination of settings, etc. Tried discord but they didn't really have any brilliant ideas either, apparently either I'm the only one this has happened to or it's extremely rare. Anyway I've thrown up my hands at this point. Link and Air Link work fine, and while I prefer Virtual Desktop, it's not worth nuking my OS since I have another option.
Anyway, good luck, hope you fair better fixing your VD problem than I did with mine.
thanks for the review! was just looking at this card a few days ago, for sure ordering one!
Thanks for this video! You can't really find much information when it comes to Radeon GPU's and PCVR besides that they are not recommended, luckily this video shows the opposite. Gonna wait for those sweet deals on black friday!
Thank you for this review, I was waiting it for quite a long time! Now I am definetely buying it. Even if rumored 4070/4080 Super series will be released in 2024, I bet it won't cost around 500$ even close, so to get such a nice performance (even in something as demanding as VR) for 500$ is a steal, imo.
4070 super should be 600$ and will smash the 7800xt in every way, i would urge you to reconsider (the 4070 super will dominate the midrange since it will basically perform really close to a 4070ti for 200$ less)
@@nerd20fromdiscord sorry dude, but I don't believe in Nvidia anymore after whole 4000 series *&^$show ("4080" 12GB and 80-series card for 1200$, etc.). Also, for example, I was waiting for a year for a 3070 refresh with 16GB - and it never arrived. So all those rumors about Super series can potentially lead to the same situation (noone knows what and when will happen). Plus I just can't believe that Huang will suddenly sell a newer and better card for less money. I bet it's goal is to change the older lineup that will be sold at a discount to clear the shelfs after this whole Super-series announcement. But it still won't be a good deal (I mean the original cards at a discount) - even if 4080 will become 1000$ it's still, imo, too much for it and 4070/4070 TI still will have only 12GB, so even at a discount it is a no-go for me personally. So I made my choice - 7800 XT it is!
@@nerd20fromdiscordconsiderating the market share in pc and the advantages in ai area, I really don't think nvida will decrease the price of the new Gpu (If have )😂
@@DEADSnAkeBY Amen. I was thinking of getting a 4070 but the 7800XT in my country is $100 cheaper while being 10-20% better FPS-wise.
So I get to win with AMD *and* not reward Nvidia for their blatant abuse of their market shares with their "4060" release (4050 BTW, can't even outperform the 3060 at times).
After this VR review (which was my only crux), team red is the way to go
@@nerd20fromdiscordyeah but still 12 giga if vram😢 for 4070s and 4700ti super with 16g will cost as much as 7900xt so if the drivers are fixed now in occulus q2 i think i will go for a 7800xt
Thanks for the video. Actually I was planing to buy a RX 7800 XT and use it with Virtualdesktop. But the stuttering you mentioned makes me now hesitant. Please can you post a new video once you have solved the virtual desktop issues. Thanks a lot. By the way I am using a Pico4.
Dude, i played through all of Half Life Alyx at 720p low 30fps, at this point nothint "sucks at vr" to me
I'm with you man, still watching these videos for fun😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Please can you revisit 7800 xt in VR? I think AMD fixed most of problems
great comprehensive list, i just wish you could hop in a vrchat world since sometimes that can be super taxing depending on the world, if u need any suggestions for testing worlds lmk
I've seen a couple of black friday deals on this card, but I don't want to pull the trigger after the glitches you encountered. Now i think the drivers are fixed, any chance of an emergency retest. It doesn’t have to be a full blown review. Many thanks
Btw, on Quest 3 it arguably doesn't make sense anymore to play Red Matter 2 through PCVR, because the native version looks just as good (or even better since there is no encoding?).
Red Matter 2 does look really good on Quest 3 native. While I haven't spent a bunch of time using my Quest 3 yet I did see some janky-ness with some of the shadows on the native Quest 3 version that are flawless on PCVR. So it's still worth it to play it on PCVR IMO, but there's not doubt Red Matter 2 looks better than any other stand alone game I've ever played. Resolution and texture wise it's right up there with PCVR but there is still more work to be done with dynamic lighting and shadows.
could you do a video that ranks all the gpus u tested for vr?
looks like a pretty sweet card once the 8000 gen is out, could finally replace my old 5800 I am just not willing to shell out 500-600 usd for a gpu so I will drop one gen back to get some deals on it once the next gen comes out!
Would love to see also VRchat comparison.
Works fantastic for me, I can play half life alyx at nearly 4k, and that's enough for me. And the frames are respectable
Oh, I didn't know about any of these issues. I bought a 7800XT and a Quest3 recently, but haven't experienced any problems I think. What I did experience however is that Virtual Desktop totally destroyed my system. :D ALL applications, including browser tabs, started to freeze out for 5-10-20 seconds at random but relatively frequent intervals. And I mean not in VR mode, but generally.
bought it on the right time, this problem has been for 2 years at least, I actually just downgraded from a 6800xt to a 3070 just because vr was unplayable and thats the only thing I needed the gpu for (I use a 1080p monitor so anything can run fine 1080 nowdays)
Quick question If you have it could you try the rx 7900 xt for vr?
my 7800xt sapphire pure, AV1 has no problems :) I see the difference between my rx 6800, so crisp as if it's directly connected with a display. I love it! I no longer get the feeling of sickness
Be interested in the comparison with the 4070 (or Ti), and DLSS vs FSR for VR titles that support it such as No Man's Sky. I'm looking to upgrade from a 6600 XT, and locally the cheapest 7800 XT and 4070 cards trade places depending on the current specials (currently @$35AUD cheaper for the Sapphire 7800XT vs the PNY RTX 4070). I have had a lot of issues with terrible jaggies and shimmering edges in link/airlink with the 6600 XT (also running a 5800X3D), regardless of settings/driver version. Fewer such issues in VD though.
Personally done some experimenting and upscaling does not work well with the quest 2, you save on performance but it looks worse and felt less depth in the enviroments, I had to turn upscaling to high quality and still did not look a nice as in native resolution, so I rather have native res for now. perhaps its a problem of the displays, since they are so small pixel density its already quite compromised
@@SillyMonkeysLikeApples What resolution are you running from the Oculus/Steam settings? Due to encoding etc, it usually looks pretty bad unless you have the rendering resolution set above the native resolution of the panels by a decent amount. With the 6600 XT the Oculus settings for 1.0X are only at 3264 x 1648, which is significantly UNDER the native 3664 x 1920. Interestingly there's quality gains to be had from going well over the native resolution, without using FSR/DLSS etc, so I'm not sure where the best visuals for the performance would lie. I've only really fooled around with using FSR in No Man's Sky, and the visual downgrade is very obvious.
@@Joric78 maybe Im missing something? usually quest link stays at recommended (which its over native display resolution 4.100 by 1.900 or something like that) (recommneded res depends on your hardware and its automatic from quest software).
But the upscaling its something to be used to render on lower res to later upscale on the normal resolution (ex, 1080p monitor renders at 720p and upscales back to 1080). that is what I tried and looks worse, I did not see any point of upscaling over since it consumes gpu power as just rendering the game on native, plus its not looking as nice as in native res.
What worked for me always its play on native and increase resolution but without upscaling, it consumes some extra gpu power but makes it sharp and there is no weird things going on
@@SillyMonkeysLikeApples I think the recommended render resolution is based on your system (and largely GPU) performance. The recommended resolution on my PC with a 5800X3D and 6600 XT is 3264 x 1648. That's well below native.
People are reporting that there's very noticeable quality improvements all the way up to the 5408 x 2736 max (which might be a result of the barrel distortion correction and ensuring that every pixel is still rendered 1:1 at a minimum).
My point was that I'm not sure where the improvement from increasing the native rendering resolution crosses over with the performance benefits of upscaling in terms of the ideal compromise in image quality. In other words, are you better off running a higher resolution upscaled or just a lower render resolution?
@@Joric78 in my personal experience, run the native resolution which is 1:1 (gains after that come at a big gpu performance cost and its not very noticeably).
What I do to get a bit more definition its depending on the game but add a 30% resolution on in game setting, and use some Anti Alaising thing to blend the pixels and make it look smoother.
Somehow just adding that 30% on the quest link software makes things harder to carry on my gpu, because you are rendering the entire desktop environment plus the game, I assume.
Some pcvr games are very demanding but others like alyx and assetto corsa can run amazing in my old 1660s, jumping to a 3070 did not improve the visuals or the fps for me, but having performance headroom, no casual frame drops and run on the fans on low rpms its something I enjoy pretty much, as soon as i push I meet the limits quite quickly, dont see much visual improvement and frame drops are annoying for me
Greatly appreciate this. I just ordered the same card on Monday afters days of research and I was really hoping I made the right choice. Thanks again!
I'm on weeks of research because I can't afford to f*** this up lol. How is your experience with the card? I'm deciding between this and a 4070 but I realized I need it to do good in VR too, I have a quest 3 and would like to run it at its native resolution in PCvr
@@SupaTrendingDaily 7800xt is a great card, probably the best value on the market atm by large margins, VR occasionally requires a bit of setting tinkering, but it did on my 1080ti as well. Pretty much all the RDNA3 VR issues have been fixed for 6 months or more now, and whatever smaller issues are lingering can usually be fixed fairly easily.
@@PineyJustice well I'm finding out if I were to buy amd, I would go with the 7900 gre because they're pretty much the same price. I can't find any white ones though.
@@SupaTrendingDaily Sapphire makes a 7900 GRE pure which is white. The GRE is pretty good yeah, especially if you get lucky and can OC your vram on it up to full 20gbps speeds.
What’s the latency like with a good router and air link/ virtual desktop? Any compression artifacts/stuttering or visual bugs? Thanks
Great review! thanks!
Thanks again for this video, the 7800xt is now the card I am getting this black week to build my new PC and use it for PCVR as well, great stuff! By the way, did you get the AV1 to work? Saw other replied that it was a bug well known in the VD-app. Best regards!
Hola, yo estoy esperando para recibirla también, te funciona bien con el codec av1 y arreglaron los drivers? saludos!!
Can confirm that the Stuttering Issue still persists to this day. And it really makes me Question if I want to keep my card... Wanted to go Team Red sooo bad, as I love their Ryzen CPU´s but my experience so far has been plagued by BSOD´s random crashes, overheating card because of the horrible horrible AMD Adrenaline Software reading the Fans wrong... If you´re someone who loves to fix stuff, this Card is for you, but if you just want to use your machine --> go Green ^-^
Damn, really wanted to have AMD video card just for vr butafooria sees life i need to go for nvidia.
If you have an AMD CPU check if you use fTPM and disable it (disable bitlocker first) or try a hardware dTPM. It might be the issue.
Apparently Radeon is very Ram Sensetive
You running stable ram?
@@istvan.designhmm i tried that actually, it made microstutters less severe, but the other issues persisted :( didnt had fTPM Problem with my gtx 1080.
I have the nitro + 7800xt and I didn’t run into theses issues?
I RMAed my rx 7900 xtx 2 months ago and got a 4080 instead, and i'm happy with it, AV1 in Virtual Desktop with a Quest 3 works at a stable 120 fps in Godlike Mode without any problems, while en- and decoding latency usually is about 2 ms higher than HEVC(~7ms)
i have a 7800xt have black screens on high demanding games not reproducible but 17 black screens in 3 weeks thats a lot for me and i have on monday give this card back to seller and buy 4070
@@domeberlin4480 Games crashed all the time with the 7900 xtx (especially Unreal Engine Games), I think it’s a problem with the drivers. And Ryzen 7000 also seems to have Bios related issues with Ram instability, this gen of AMD Hardware is weird
I really appreciate your videos they are comprehensive and at the same time informative. Do you have plans to do one with the 7800 XTX scine the revised drivers etc. ? Trying to decide between the 2
It will be interesting to see how Flight Sim works with the Sony PSVR2 when it's compatible with the PC in the coming months.
I upgraded from a 3060 Ti to a 7800 XT and Alyx isn't as smooth anymore on my Rift S, lots of stuttering on DX11 and Vulkan. Do I have to change something in Oculus settings to sort this out?
Yeah i have this problem too, i guess we should wait until they fix there garbages softwares
@@hburners361 Eventually what solved 99% of all stutters for me was changing the active runtime in the Oculus app from SteamVR to OpenXR, and also running Alyx with -novid -nowindow launch options. Running on the latest 24.2.1 Adrenalin driver.
Good to see this detailed review. I currently have a 6700XT and it just can't handle 120hz (encoder drops frames), and was looking into an upgrade.
Hi I’m looking to build with the same card but nervous about it because of the amd and vr situation, how has your card handled in vr so far?
@@Dosu14I have a 7800xt and a valve index and the VR performance is out of this world (I’m coming from a 1060). I have the 7800X3D and 32GB of ddr5
Thank you! I need this video that i'm interested in this. Though, could you test this config with mod vr? For example luke ross's Cyberpunk or other mods?
Ha, you were a little bit too late with your vid. Last Breachers update included additional bloom settings. But honestly: Great work. I really aprreciate your VR GPU benchmarks. I personally will still go with nvidia for vr, just keeping in mind how issue heavy the last amd gen has been, and how the current gen of amd cards started. I think, we can rely on one thing: If an issue occurs, you better be damn patient if you own an amd card. Other than that: Enjoy, as long as it works.
are you planning to give some tutorial on the best settings in VD and airlink with gpu 7900xtx? Thank you
I play DCS. I just got into VR. I bought the RX 7900 XTX a few months ago. I decided to go back to Nvidia and bought a 4080. No problem with it on flat screen. Just got frustrated with VR.
Thanks you for this video, I did ask you a week ago about 7900xt vs 4070 ti.
You answer was great, sorry for not getting back on it.
But basically you suggested the Radeon and Yeah that is the way I intend to go. This video made me even more sure of it.
Just so close to black week so hoping the get deal.
Thanks for your answer and this video, very helpful 🙏🙏🙏🙏🫣
This video came right on time. I was getting frustrated with how blurry my 7900xt looked so I hope this fixes my problems.
Did it work? Im planning on buying the 7900xt so knowing would be really helpful for me.
@@ollum1 I actually ended up selling my 7900xt for a 4080 and the difference in clarity is night and day especially in virtual desktop. The 7900xt was good enough on most games but on some games it was very unplayable. Even getting a 4070 would be an improvement in terms of VR clarity
HI, i bought the rx7900xtx, does ist work better yet? or is it still bad ? i dont understand all sorry. i only want to know if i could use the 7900xtx good now.
No you can't, you need a rtx 4090 ti to run, at least, on low settings
Im running a 7800XT but im having that jittering / double vision issue. I'm running the latest drivers (24.7.1) and the issue has been presistant. Does anyone have a fix?
I have a 7800x3d. the 7800xt is around my budget. Would you recommend this for VR. I will also be playing Microsoft Flight Simulator in VR
have you noticed if the quest 3 stars oculus link with a higher encode resolution by any chance? im assuming the quest 2 was limited because of the older, worse performing SOC.
I haven't paid attention whether the encode resolution is higher or not with the Quest 3 but graphics definitely look sharper on Quest 3 than on Quest 2 with both Quest Link and AirLink, that I can verify.
has anything changed for it recently or no
Just got a 7800xt. Tried airlink and worked but was pretty buggy so I'm assuming it was just my set up cause I don't have Ethernet. So will be trying a link cable. Third party once since meta's cables are overly expensive
Let me know how the Link cable handles it.@@hakmedolarinde8183
@@hakmedolarinde8183any update? I got a 2nd hand quest 2 but only have an rx6600, so I want to know if the 6800 or 7800 would do better...
My system is exactly your test machine. I have some issues I can't figure out and would love to chat with you about it. I have a blur I can't get rid of
Can you plz review the rtx 3060 12gb
@Maraksot78 does this gpu also work with the cablelink with the quest 2 if i cant use the airlink ? i am really thinking of buying amd but i am really not sure
Is the issu fix?did they fix it?!
Hey, i know this kinda off topic, but what kinda difference can i expect with 16gb ram to 32gb? Im about to order a 7900xt for pcvr on link cable only not airlink. Do i need to upgrade ram to? I cant seem to find any info on ram just that ppl say 32gb is better
Could you please make a setup for 7800xt in quest 2?
I have the AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT card and i'm currently having a problem with the oculus app specifically.
I turned the resolution back to regular but still 90 fps which should do fine.
Steam vr works fine and so do the apps on my quest 3.
I contacted meta and they told me my card is too new to be detected by the app (I get a "too low" specs warning in the app).
Do you know any remedies?
would you recommend going for this one now, or waiting for the 4070 super? as someone who does not really care about dlss and ray tracing i am inclined to go with amd for the better flatscreen performance and vram, but if the 4070 super isn't too much more expensive i might consider it.
I'd honestly wait to see what the 4070 Super and 4070 Ti Super are priced at.... imo the 4070 Ti Super is the only one worth looking into as it has a 16GB card
@@TheXev i just decided to go for a 7900 xt as i found one for $50 off and i think i'll be happy with it. as much as i want to stay with nvidia it just doesnt seem like they have a great line up this generation imo
Did they fix the blur/muddy textures?
Hello, does the AMD RX7900xt now work with VR glasses with high resolution or still not. I'm looking for a VR purely for PCVR? Can someone please give me a tip? Meta Quest 3 doesn't work well, I've already tested that. Thanks
Which codec did u use with the amd gpu? and how much bitrate ?
or did you use air link and only using the oculus graphics setting?
please do recroom tests
How do you have 120hz in oculus pc software, I have mine set to beta and still just 90...
I used a Quest 2 for all the testing which supports 120Hz. 120Hz is coming to Quest 3, just not yet.
Do another 7900 xt video. Maybe its fixed finally? Also 7900 xtx
I have Quest2, and my pc runs a RYZON 7 5700G CPU and a RADEON XFX 6700XT card. And i can't even run vrchat with any more the 8fps. Riddle Me That Batman
I remember Pavlov after it's update ran like shit it's plays fine now but when the engine update launched it's was a headache to play so that probably didt help when testing those gpus
Hello. Can you test AFMF(AMD Fluid Motion Frames) on VR? this works on rx 6k series and 7k series gpu.
What do you mean by works?
Does it improve the performance?
At 4:38 your bandwidth is eh, abysmal, what was your wireless setup? As in router, distance from router, etc?
My router is downstairs and my playspace is upstairs so the signal has to travel through a floor and a couple walls which is why you see the bandwidth fluctuate a lot but I've tried playing in the same room as my router where I get no fluctuations and the same problems exist which tells me thats not the cause of the problem. At that point I figured I'd just play in my normal play space next to my PC.
@@Maraksot78 Ahh okay I see.. I'm currently heavily considering upgrading my 3060 ti to a 7800xt, but since wireless Quest 3 pcvr over VD would be the main usecase for it's been really hard finding good comparisons before pulling the trigger.. If I may ask is VD still problematic for you? Could it maybe have to do with the setting "set bitrate automatically"? Sometimes it will set it arbitrarily low for me, causing all sorts of stuttering issues, seemingly for no reason, then setting it manually it works fine
R u able to test the 7900 gre on VR?
I'm unsure myself but looking at the NZXT site to make a pc they say that RX 7800 XT isn't vr ready yet I see this is this just a case of the company being wrong or you doing something special to make it work I'm new to pc that's all
Does it work fine with a cable?
The 7800xt looking very good as a card
I have the 7800xt red devil and have a i5 12600k cpu and 32 gigs of ram and pavlov is constantly going under 90 am i doing somthing wrong?
Honestly I can't diagnose why you're having a hard time hitting 90fps without being there to see what all you've got going on. Looking at flat game benchmarks on RUclips the 5800X3D does provide a slightly higher frame rate than the 12600k when using the same GPU, so that may have a little to do with it. Also I don't know what RAM speed/timings you're running and that can effect your frame rate too. For example, I was running 3600MHz CL16 DDR4 in this video and I've seen Hardware Unboxed run DDR4 3200MHz CL14 RAM that performs better than DDR4 4000MHz and faster because of the tighter timings, so that's another thing that can make a small difference depending on the game. And then, of course, depending on what all applications you have installed on your PC and processes you have running in the background, that can impact game performance as well. My test system has only the stuff I need to do these benchmark videos installed on it, because I'm trying to find the maximum performance a GPU is capable of. And then of course depending on the render resolution you're using and settings you're using, that too is going to impact performance. So yah, it may not be one thing, it may be a combination of several different things that's effecting your performance.
@Maraksot78 I gotcha I used all the setting you use in the video but your probably right about the cpu and ram I belive mine is 3600megahertz
Thanks, now I can buy oculus 3 for my 7900XTX)
Hi Maraksot78, 2 questions now that Meta fixed its AMD compatibility with link. 1: Wich brand at the same level of performance deliver better image quality? and 2: Having in mind that you've tested RTX4070 TI 12gb and RX7800XT 16gb wich one gave you the better overall experience? Thanks a lot.
When it comes to ease of use, Nvidia is still superior IMO. It works perfectly pretty much right out of the box where Radeon GPU's need some tweaking in the Oculus Debug Tool to get the same experience. Personally I don't think the encode/decode issues (which is where the majority of the problems lie) with AMD is entirely AMD's fault. I feel Meta is just as much to blame, if not more so, because they seem to be coding their software to work perfectly with Nvidia GPU's and putting in far less effort with AMD GPU's, but that's just my opinion based on my observations.
@@Maraksot78I’m in the market for a card for my Q3. I’ll probably go with the 4070ti, I’d love to stay with amd but all the things I’m reading is pushing me away. I was going to pick up a 6800xt today but having to rethink it.
Wait, hold on, can I use my 7900 xtx with oculus now? I have been super pissed off because or is how I did my sim racing.
why don't anyone test VRchat?
I could proably make a VR World and just drop full avatars into it so to test performace
why does acc look likec 360p?
Is the 7700 ok for vr ?
Hi there maraksot78 I had a question I hope you can respond personally it would mean a lot I’m switching from team green to team red and I have a rift s which is a wired headset I was wondering if it’d work with the 7800 cut as well thank you for your time
Honestly, I don't know how it will work with a wired headset like the Rift S. I assume it will work great, but I only have a Quest 2 and Quest 3, so I can only speak to those headsets. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
@@Maraksot78 alright sweet I appreciate the reply I really enjoy your content especially your reviews for vr on amd cards keep up the great work
@@Maraksot78 my apologies for messaging you again on the subject I hope to get another reply from you I was just curious on what drivers you were using from amd when doing vr in the video appreciate you and hope to get a reply have a good day
RUclips is just a hobby of mine, I don't make videos full time, so depending on the video it sometimes takes me awhile to get one done. Anyway, I did all my testing using the Adrenalin 23.9.3 driver. The current driver is 23.11.1 just fyi. And I should say, when I tested the 7800XT with AirLink in mid October it worked great which is what I reported in my video, however... I fired it up yesterday to do a little gaming with the 7800XT using AirLink and it looked terrible. I don't know what happened between the time I first tested it and now but AirLink is not working good currently out of the box. I had to set the encode width in the Oculus Debug Tool to 3680, Link Sharpening to Normal and the Dynamic Bitrate Max to 150 and the Dynamic Bitrate Offset to 50 to get things to look good. While it does make things look nice, performance isn't butter smooth all the time. It's good most of the time but there's also a fair amount of hitching or stuttering that goes on. It's always short lived and only happens every so often so games are fully playable in my opinion, but of course it's best if there's none of that kind of stuff going on. When using a Link cable everything is great once I set the encode width to 3680 and Link Sharpening to Normal like I said in the video, but for whatever reason AirLink has decided to be fussy again. I'm planning for my next video to be about this very issue, but just my luck by the time the video is done AMD or Meta or whoever is responsible will update their software and fix it making my video obsolete. 😂
@@Maraksot78 okay thanks for the feedback I have a feeling that if you have a headset that vr should work just fine with minimal tweaking that’s a guess not a for sure thing it just sounds like if I were to hook a quest or in my case a rift s difrectly up to the 7800xt it hopefully run smooth cuz I know from hearing that amd has fixed the majority of issues of vr for the 7000 series gpus hopefully it should be fine
Great card. For the price is really good.
I knew that will find Quest 3 + AMD video card testing here! Great, thx!
try american truck simulator VR, game is very hard to run at 72hz with a rtx 3060
does anyone have a 7000 series and pico neo 3 link that can confirm that it works
I've got a 7800xt and neo link. Works just fine (no virtual desk top as DP connector), but performance in DCS is woeful. 24 FPS and just an awful experience.
Meanwhile I have a 3070ti and struggle to get solod 72fps with a 13900k
That's the issue with AMD it's still sketchy to setup and make it work for general use :/ performance is good but fluctuates a lot and it's just not a good experience. I'll add a bit more money, loose more raw power but at least get stability
Is the rx7900xtx worth for vr ?
As a 7900 XTX owner I have to say I can NOT recommend a amd gpu for VR. Especially if you want to use adrenaline, the adrenaline software is known to cause crashes with VR games, they just wont fix it for some reason.
RX 7000 are still not in the Meta recommended GPU list..
Why your assetto corsa competizione graphics are so bad ?
Generally speaking AMD are better at rasterized games like what all VR is at the moments so if you can get it at a good price then as far as VR goes get one.
it looks like your internet speed was being very slow which is the calprit
when i set my encode resolution width to 3680 on my quest 2 with an rx 6700 xt i get what look like warping in the right eye, it just feels off, does anyone else get this?
Quest2--3664.........Quest3--4128........3680???
This is when using AirLink I assume? I've only had that happen when using AirLink but there is a way to fix it. First you need to open task manager by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del on you keyboard. In the processes tab scroll down to the Oculus processes there will be 3 or 4 of them. Right click on each one and then click 'end task'. Once they're all closed open Windows Explorer and go to C://Users/"your username"/AppData/Roaming/Oculus/sessions/"folder with a big string of numbers" you'll find three files named data.sqlite, data.sqlite-shm and data.sqlite-wal. Delete these 3 files. Now when you start up AirLink that right eye squeeze, as I call it, should be gone. When it comes back (yes I said when not if) do this process again to fix it.
I wish you included assetto corsa in this test. Acc is much more demanding in vr and for this "lower end" GPU asseto corsa would make more sense to test.
Maybe you can incude both in your next test...Rx 7900 GRE perhaps? 😁
Fantastic review! Thank you for busting the myth that AMD cards are utter trash for VR
so 4070 or 7800xt
I was on the 4070 ti vs 7900xt train a week ago, joining team red at black week hopefully