I own a Powercolor Hellhound RX 7800 XT, very happy with the performance of the card. Got it undervolted @ 1050mV, in 99% of games the fps is >100. Running 1440p at 144Hz, love this so far. Temperatures are awesome and do not get above 56 degrees.
I’ve got the Hellhound as well. It’s great! I bought and returned the Pulse and Merc models, both of which had noticeable coil whine in my system starting around 80-90 fps then finally settled on the Hellhound, which still has a tiny bit but much less so I’m happy with it.
@@doctorvengeance1 My 7800 XT makes the driver crash with the fast timings enabled. I did not adjust the power settings from stock and only gave an undervolt at 1050mV. Do I need to adjust other settings to make fast timings work?
Undervolting on new AMD cards is great, because you typically get more performance with lower temps and noise because you just boost higher under the same power budget. How much depends on the silicon lottery basically, but I recommend everyone to basically just turn down the voltage percentage scaler until you crash a benchmark immediately, and then turn it up ~5%. You can find the sweetspot more accurately (depends on thr load too) but you should be stable like that. If you still get crashes just turn the dial 1% up at a time until it doesn't.
I switched from a 3060 to a 7800 xt, been loving it. More of a competitive player over ray tracing so I just appreciate the raw performance of the 7800 xt. Price per frame is like half the 4070 especially when I got mine on a Black Friday deal, a xfx Merc 319 Radeon RX 7800 xt with a 3 year warranty and I got a free game with it. And I only paid, 500 no tax in nh at that time when I got my card 😅 very beefy card if you go the other manufacturers route so make sure you take that into consideration. Actually didn’t even install mine right away until I ordered a cooler master v3 vertical mount for my ATX case cause for example the OC xfx card is literally massive. Nice build quality over the regular stock Radeon, with the sales always happening with amd I wouldn’t recommend getting the base card. My xfx card stays cool and quiet and it may not be like in your face with rbg, but it does what I need it to do while looking sleek and cool with the all black and silver feel with the xfx white logo.
Awesome video! Man I know that took a great deal of time to run all those various tests, compile, edit, etc - and it is greatly appreciated!!! Keep on ERockin' ;)
@@mannydcbianco Thank you. I think for the money it may be the best card out there. I am a fan of performance, and I think ERock's video checked a lot of boxes! 😀
@@RKBenchmarker I am inclined to agree. At the very least it's the easily best value in the current generation of graphics cards, and that's coming from someone who recently bought a 7900 XT and is absolutely loving it. There's always going to be the argument that the 7800 XT is barely faster than the 6800 XT - and it's 100% true - but power consumption is down _a lot_ and the 7800 XT will most likely see driver support and game optimizations at least two years beyond the EOL of the 6800 XT. And it has AV1 encoding for streamers and content creators. Even non-streamers can benefit from the AV1 support if/when they sell the card a few years down the line, because even if they don't care about AV1 a future buyer might, and that's going to make the card easier to sell at a slightly higher price.
Wow man, thank you! Great video! I'm probably getting the 7800XT soon soo, I had to watch this :D Thank you for all the tests, that was very nice and I like to see all of those kinds of test. When I get it, I will definitely undervolt it. Thank you again for a great review. :)
Great video, thanks for the info I'll be able to look back on it 6 years from now when I'm able to afford one and see what I'm in store for, lol. In all seriousness thanks a lot and I appreciate the time and effort you put into bringing us this great data. #StayFrosty my friend.
I have the gigabyte version of the 7800XT. It runs very cool, but temperatures don’t really see much of an improvement with the undervolt, only the wattage which I reduced it by about 50W on most games. To me that’s a win alone. Great video!
@@ErockOnTech Of course, I don't know what my silly ass was thinking... anyway, I think since I can't undervolt my card much, I can't see a difference in temps, but I just get higher clock speeds. I envy those who can undervolt below 1130 mv
I have just started watching your videos, and they are really high quality!, hopefully we can continue getting this quality content or even better congrats for the effort.
I build and rent plus sell pc for small business and your video have really help me alot was deciding either to buy 7000or just choose 6000 series gpu because team green is very selfish with your time pf work and dedication inhave seen where to spend my money thanks alot vro good work.
One thing I’ve personally done to cut down trial and error is to Auto OC/UV then take the values and manually combine all three results with max power slider and a bit more voltage
Really great video! Honestly I was surprised to see the UV vs. OC settings. Maybe AMD should take note and just set this card to this UV by default to better compete vs. the 4070 in terms of power draw. Edit: I just got inspired by your video to try and Undervolt my 6900 XT Limited and I can't believe I didn't do this sooner. Playing CP2077 RN and basically the benchmark test went from 1.200V@341W -> 1.050V@267W with a ~2 FPS average drop for CP2077 (getting about 100 FPS on 1440p Ultra no-RT native) just by dropping the max frequency from 2700 to 2560. There's clearly some hidden algorithm with AMD here so there's more testing to go but man, you just saved me a ton of money and heat!
AMD knows that very well but they have to play it safe for the average consumer. hence they pick voltages that work for every GPU they're selling. there were GPUs in the past that ran near their limits and had issues, why would anyone risk that?
does any one here have any info for the Hellhound RX 7800 XT for the Sizes of there Thermal Pads? i been to and fro and nothing to be seen. Thank you for sharing
Just bought the XFX Speedster MERC319 RX 7800 XT for $493 from Amazon's Black Friday sale with an employee discount. That's a steal! And now it’s back to $539.
I purcased It and paired It with my i7 4790k and 1440p max detail In Overwatch 2 I am getting my 165fps +- for my 144hz monitor. Its all what I asked for and what I got, great GPU 👌👌
I opted for the ASUS TUF version of the 7800XT since it is rated as the most cool & quiet running 7800XT under load. It's pretty chunky sized though. Using it in my new 1440p build, paired with the 65W Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T CPU (using the DeepCool AK620 Digital CPU cooler instead of the mediocre stock AMD Wraith cooler).
What about overclock + under volt? I did this on my rx6800. I don't understand how the undervolted GPU runs at lower frequency yet presents more FPS. Shouldn't the lower temps result in more time in boost frequency?
Dude great vid here. The 7800XT is the replacement for the 6700XT. The 6700XT MSRP was $480 vs $500 for the 7800XT. Basically the same MSRP 3 years later and 47% faster. Think about that. We all know at this point AMD moved names up a peg in error. 7900XT is the 6800XT replacement when priced at $800 and below. 7900XTX is the 6950XT replacement at $900 now. The ONLY reason 6800XT was close to $500 was to clear them out. Everyone understands that now. TLDR on the 7800XT? It's your upgrade from the 6700XT or RTX 3070. AMD should NOT have moved names up like that. Stupid move but the cards are great.
Dude. Your name clearly tells me your position here lol. Look AMD did a scummy move by naming it the 7800 XT. They shifted the product stack exactly like Nvidia. It’s scummy. It’s confusing. If they don’t want it compared to a 6800 XT, then maybe they shouldn’t have named it a 7800 XT. 🤔 I know it’s a crazy thought. But I think you can see where I’m coming from if you really think about it. Also, as a side note, even from the 6700 XT, I don’t think those users should upgrade. Just sit tight with your current and still relevant hardware. Also, the majority of the video is not even about the 6800 XT comparison. That was a couple of lines. Yet, this morning, all you guys only want to talk about is how the 7800 XT is a 6700 XT replacement. Are you guys in a group or something? lol what the heck man? Thanks for the view and comment.
@@ErockOnTech Ya I said it was stupid of them to change all thier naming and I agree it is scummy. My name has been the same for a long time LOL. Long before I was buying AMD cards. And I build 6 or 7 systems a year for people and half of those are nVidia so... ya. I am only ever about best bang for the buck.
Great video man, love the benchmark overload, and the organization of the video. I do agree that if the two cards are on the table, definitely just go with the new one. That being said, I also agree with you that the card isn't super exciting vs the 6800XT. I am glad you mentioned it.
Thanks man for watching and commenting! I do appreciate it! Yeah you know how we have to be careful when talking about AMD GPUs lol. It shouldn’t be that way sadly. But it is. I’m surprised the 6800 XT is still listed for $500 currently. That makes no sense to me.
@@ErockOnTech Eggshells for sure. Yeah it's surprising, I wonder if they have very low stock on those 6800XTs in particular. Intel does that same thing sometimes, you'll see older CPUs pricing through the roof, AMD usually holds stock longer and heavily discounts it. I bet they left the 6800XT price to help move the 7700XTs.
@@techwandoUS Yes, or so I hear. But I don’t think that’s saying much lol. Honestly, I’ve just wanted to try Intel. All I’ve used is AMD Ryzen. So I need some Intel experience. I figured why not start with the “latest and greatest?” Lol.
He said it, this card simply isn't for 6800xt owners moreover, the way things worked out, you can't get buy a more powerful gpu around this price point no matter which camp you look at unless you are willing to buy used. It is a wonderful card for someone like me that upgraded from a 1070ti. Not gonna lie though.... It may get sold if the 4070 super is actually released on AD103 and doesn't cost 800 Dollars.
Am I the only one that wants a t shirt that says “As you can see”? Lol 😂 by far my favorite erock line! Great video! I agree with your final thoughts. No the 7800xt not this big leap but if you are coming from 5000 or even lower end 6000 amd GPUs this a really great upgrade from the price so we love to see that.
If you overclock too much on core with too much voltage, it underclocks your memory. This is because of the power limit. That's why you have some weird results.
That exact issue was at launch and was fixed with an update. The reason for some of the "weird" results was because of the game itself causing the know issue (such as the OC gpu having a lower wattage usage than stock). In the OC, the mV was left at default so he was strictly testing OC vs UV.
I’m getting one to play 4K 120Hz Call of Duty on my 50” TV. Got a Ryzen 7 5800X with 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz. Will run the game on High/Medium settings but will use FSR if need be.
I bought a 7800XT on 1st Feb, not had a chance to use it yet as I am waiting for the wife to buy me a 1440p monitor and a keyboard, but I have come from an ACER nitro 5 gaming laptop which I have been playing on for 4 years, I can’t wait to start playing on my new set up :) anything I bought was going to be better than my 1660Ti mobile GPU in my laptop, I sadly couldn’t justify the £100 - £300 uplift for the 4070 Super or 4070Ti Super respectively. Will definitely look at undervolting options and a custom fan curve for better power and thermal performance :) I managed to pick up my Sapphire Pulse 7800XT for £489.98 here in the UK
Excellent Vid. I'm going from a GTX 1080 to the RX 7800 XT - and from this vid - I can say it's probably gonna blow my mind. LOL Have to give kudos the the GTX 1080 though - it served me well for 6 1/2 years. For the most part, with a few exceptions - I could play almost everything at full or close to full blast (minus RayTracing of course). My 7800 XT should be arriving tomorrow, can't wait.
I don't understand your numbers at 13:20, your clock speed is significantly lower with your undervolt settings, it shouldn't yield better frame rate, are you sure the settings are a 100% match?
great video. loved the undervolt testing. Wished there was 4k footage though with demonstrations as to why you don't recommend it as a 4k card. I'm looking for a 4k card for an MMO with high detail characters with lots of flashy korean avatar accessories and I don't want it to bog down. (black desert online) Dunno what to pick
Don't listen to him about the 4k. With FSR turned on at quality and ultra settings this card will excell. I run a Sapphire 5600 XT with FSR balanced in cyberpunk 2077 and am around 30-60 fps. You will need to watch a settings video on youtube to find out which settings you can free with no cost and which actually decreases performance. And I do play on a TV, flasgship samsung Q90T 55', you will have no problem running 4k with this card. To be completley honest the HDR matters more and HDR is fps agnostic, but is depended on the quality of your monitor/tv.
@@mattiasolsson2354 nice. I'll be using a 4k TV and a 1440p monitor in tandem, so it looks like I should be okay. 'still have to build the desk and stuff though heh. thanks for the reassuring comment.
there's also now a RX 7900 GRE. Supposedly something in between the RX 7800 XT and the RX 7900 XT. you pay more but it doesn't quite get the job done 🤔 Ultimately i went with the RX 7800 XT for midrange gaming on 1440p 180hz IPS monitor. 4080 would be nice if the price was close to a 7800 XT but it isn't. so pass.
In fact the 7900 GRE performs exactly at where it's priced and trades blows with the 4070 ti Super, often beating that GPU in some contexts. If you just bought the 7800 XT and have another $50, take the card back and get a 7900 GRE.
Was considering 6700s, 6750, 6800s, 3060 12gb, heck even Arc A770 16gb to throw into my rig- the main limit is I DON'T want to replace my 650w power supply so 6800xt is a stone too far. Just found a used 7800x reference design for 370 that I just could NOT ignore. It may stress my power supply BUT I'll undervolt it from the start and see how that goes. worse case scenerio I can flip it on ebay for 420ish (hopefully it works and in tact... Amazon Warehouse just said 'very good' so I'm a little worried maybe a fan is missing a blade or doesn't work :/ if the card itself doesn't work I'm betting on them taking the return? hopefully?).
Was going to get rx 7800xt becuze 7900xt cost +300€ more in Sweden, end up with rx 6950xt overclocked it to 2550-2750Mhz ay 1100mV fan curve at auto and hit 365W at 72C temperatur goes 23800 points in time spy run have same score as rtx 4070ti.
a bit late to the party but do you guys think the extra 50 bucks is worth it for the 3 fan version or is the 2 fan version enough? Can't really find info on this lol
Can you help me decide between the 7800 XT and the 4070? I’ll be using it for gaming and game development in UE5. I’m a beginner with 3D games and modeling, and I’m unsure about which one to pick. The 16GB VRAM on the 7800 XT seems great for future-proofing. If I were to use ray tracing at a medium level while making games, would the 7800 XT be able to handle it? I'm just a bit confused about what to buy.
I do recall you said you wouldn't use this for 4K, and I agree to an extent... but I would confidently recommend this as a bare minimum for 4K, where I don't think I can say the same confidently about the 6800xt. They do tend to mature in drivers over time, as you referenced with the 6800xt. I really don't understand either hardware company cutting power in a stack shift, you'd think they'd try to do the opposite. 🤣
Yeah and 4K is hard to gauge because if you're running Halo The Master Chief collection, for example, you can max that game out at 4K and run a locked 120 FPS on a 3070. So clearly in that regard, a 7800 XT is a 4K card. But I wouldn't use it for 4K in CyberPunk for example. So as with all things in the PC space, it depends lol. But 4K is demanding in general. I really do believe 1440p is the sweet spot.
@@TheRealDlo I'm not really sure what to say here, because it's not an entry card at any level lol. The 6900/6950xt does 4k just fine... like most cards with the exception of CP77, which can even to this day cripple a 4090 with path tracing. Speaking of which, are we excluding nVidia? Because I've got a 3080ti that says it's a 4k60+ card on every title I've thrown at it, including CP77. Even as biased as UB is against AMD, they aren't claiming a 3080ti beats a 7900xt... so I don't agree in the slightest either. I'm not saying I'd recommend the 7800xt as *_the_* card to get for 4k, as Erock says... and I agree... its' niche is clearly 1440p. It is also the bare minimum in *my* opinion, that you can buy from AMD in this gen, and game respectably at 4k. It can be two things at once, after all. lol
Guys i have a ryzen 7 5700x with an rx7800xt. Im getting 58 fps in cyberpunk with the latest drivers and cpu usage is around 100 percent and gpu usage is around 94 to 95 percent. Can anyone help me with this please? Settings are 1440p ultra/medium
Sorry to hear that. I was of the impression the 3080ti actually should last longer than the 3090 on average, numerous sources have said the 3090 has more cooling issues. But I’ve seen others are having their 3080tis die too.
I need a honest opinion here, is it ok to pair the 7800xt with a 5600x for 1440p gaming or should I look into upgrading to a 5700x3d?, I wish I could just really pair it with the 5600x but want to avoid stutters due to possible higher than normal bottleneck.
quick blunt comment. i enjoy your relatability and i am a new sub. i run a i7 14700kf with a reddevill 7800xt, ive had a 4070 super and a 4080 super in my rig, i love the 7800xt for the raw value to performance on 1440p gaming, i really like the quick informational logic you use and im here for future videos. ive been thinking of switching my cpu to amd what would you consider a fair trade or upgrade??? i7 14700kf msi pro z790 p wifi MSI 850 pcie5 psu corsair dominator 6200m/t 32gb ram phanteks aio, d30 fans 2tb msi m.2
Just grabbed an AsRock Steel Legend 7800 XT for my sons build, pairing it with a 7800x3d so he should be able to upgrade to a discounted 7900xtx in a year or so without changing anything else because most other parts are on the high mid range or high end side. Just couldn’t justify the additional $400+ for the 7900 xtx at this time. Even $200 for the 4070 ti super or 7900 XT just doesn’t seem like it’s worth it tbh… I could care less about RT and he’s 12 and just dying for a gaming PC. 😂
Hey man I have a 7800xt and thinking of getting a 49” 5120x1440p do you have any idea what fps will I be getting on average? I play rpg games, sim racing and some fps games
I bought 2 sapphire nitro+ 7800xt for my gf and I and mine was a bust, it goes up to 68c while hers goes to 52c while we play the same game, same pc basically (h9 flow, 10 fans, same push/pull) gonna return it to microcenter before return window
I bought the Pulse Version of the card and replaced the 6700XT Pulse. I also have the Phantom Gaming 6950XT so I have compared them all and the performance of the 7800xt Is very Impressive for me. I would say it's around 7% under the 6950xt and about 10% higher than the 6700XT . I must say my 6700XT is a Golden Silicon as it runs better than any benchmark I have seen online by about 8% so your mileage will vary, I have not tried 4K yet as I just got a 4K monitor. Conclusion for me is for the 500-525.00 you cant beat the 7800XT and should be set for 3 years no problem.
7800xt is more like 30% or more faster than rx 6700xt in games. I know how much is faster than rx6800, own both 6800 and 7800xt and 6700xt is quite slower than rx6800 with proper cpu like 5800x3d.. I can set my 7800xt to run over 3ghz for 1080p benchmarks but in games those settings will never work so its not really relevant..
Great video! Thinking of buying this soon and I'm very curious about undervolting and reducing power draw since I'm using a 650w PSU. It's amazing to see how you can reduce power draw by 40-70 watts and still keep the performance at around stock levels, because the power draw was my only problem with the GPU.
overclock vs undervolt... I mean, crank the voltage down to stable then push clocks and aim for a certain temp.. LOL I have a r9 fury and AMD dropped support for it.. which sucks because it's still plenty of card considering what I paid for it. I'm watching prices through cyber monday.
it's not the games that can or cannot take an overclock, it's the overclock that is unstable to run that game. which just means it's an unstable overclock. also cards are not "meant" for a certain resolution, because performance requirements change all the time and from game to game. they simply deliver stable and reasonable fps at certain resolutions and details.
Yes, you are correct. I addressed this in my last video regarding the 7800 XT vs the 6800 XT. I compare it to the 6800 XT because I believe that is what the average consumer will do. Consumers tend to look at products based on name before specs.
The whole debate about what GPU can game at what level comes down to what games one wants to play. Are the 6800XT and 7800XT capable of 4K gaming and high FPS with full-on settings? Yes, unless you insist on playing the most demanding games (the ones on which RUclips testers always to seem to focus). I play FFXIV, a ten-year-old game on a custom engine, at 4K native maxed out on a 6800XT / 13700X system, both stock. I almost never see less than 100FPS of glitch-free game play. So for me, the 680XT is a 4K card.
This man gets it. It's a ridiculous thing to say you can't game at 4k with this card. With FSR balanced I get 30-60fps on Cp77 with a Sapphire 5600 XT and curated settings.
I understand where you are coming from, but these tests need to match current hardware with current titles to give a reasonable expectation to viewers. Sure, you can run older, less demanding titles perfectly at high resolutions with older or less powerful hardware, so it goes without saying that this card can run csgo at 4k. It is more relevant to see the limits where the hardware starts to struggle to properly assess its capabilities wouldn't you agree?
@@qtrg5794 Yes, it is relevant, but I would say it's just equally relevant, not more. We still need to see how various hardware performs on older titles because games don't always scale linearly. Reviewers tend to rank GPUs as 1080p, 1440p, or 4K cards based on how newer games play on them, largely because the entire industry wants us all to buy those newer games that require more powerful hardware which drives in turn demand for that hardware. The new titles, therefore, get talked about. A lot. If I were on the selling side of PC gaming, I'd do the same thing. But I'm on the buying/playing side, so my perspective is different. No reviewer is going to call a 6700XT a 4K card, but for the game I play most, it can probably achieve 4K maxed at 60 FPS. But we don't know for sure unless somebody tests that scenario. Of course, nobody can test every game on every hardware setup, but many reviewers actually _do_ test new hardware on popular older titles. GN even tests on FF14! And that's what we need to keep seeing because without it we will struggle to maintain our perspective. We need reviewers to be more "cautious" about slotting GPUs in the 1080p, 1440p, and 4K pigeon holes.
Providing all my prebuilt equipment can handle without bottlenecking how difficult is it to remove my 4060 and replace it with a 7800xt? Any help or video recommendations appreciated, im a pc complete nooob but now in my 50's have a little coin to spare. Id love to build a pc but im pc stupid at this point.
It's extremely easy probably the easiest part to replace. If you actually still need help I can help ya out. It's hard to explain over text but there's usually a clip holding the GPU to the motherboard. It needs to be pushed down then pull on the card and it should just come out.
I dont know which one i need to chose 4070ti ore 7800xt. I had a amd gaming laptop whit nvidea gpu but evrytime i update my gpu after the windows update it gave me problems... im scared if i go for 7800xt i wil get same problems..
Could someone please elaborate why undervolting leads to higher FPS? I would have thought its the other way! Would it work th esame on my old 1060 6GB too? Thanks!
The problem here is AMD's naming scheme. In reality, 7900XTX should be 7900XT and everything follows suit. So 7800XT should actually be 7700XT and it reflects with the performance. 7900XT should be the 7800XT which is the successor of the 6800XT. One possibility is so that they can sell it at a higher price while making people think they are selling it at lower. 6800XT MSRP at launch is $649; 7800XT MSRP at launch is $499. Now if you think 7800XT is the successor, it would give the illusion that AMD lowered it's price. But if you look at 7900XT which should be the actual 7800XT, it's $899.
i know its kinda past the video date, but has anyone made a comprehensive list of 2 fan vs 3 fan performance ? i really dont mind a 3 fan, however a 2 fan model would mean i could put my hard drive dock back into my pc lmao 3070 ti took that away from me
Which version of the 7800XT do u recommend? Ik there is a sapphire nitro, pulse and pure version as well as a gigabyte version, hellhound, powercooler, ASrock, Asus versions
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I own a Powercolor Hellhound RX 7800 XT, very happy with the performance of the card. Got it undervolted @ 1050mV, in 99% of games the fps is >100. Running 1440p at 144Hz, love this so far. Temperatures are awesome and do not get above 56 degrees.
That’s fantastic!
Same card bro I rock the purple so fire
I’ve got the Hellhound as well. It’s great! I bought and returned the Pulse and Merc models, both of which had noticeable coil whine in my system starting around 80-90 fps then finally settled on the Hellhound, which still has a tiny bit but much less so I’m happy with it.
IHAVE SAPHIRE PURE WHITE 970 mv 2700 mhz clocks & 2600mhz vram fast timings -10 power got score on 3d fire 19866
@@doctorvengeance1 My 7800 XT makes the driver crash with the fast timings enabled. I did not adjust the power settings from stock and only gave an undervolt at 1050mV. Do I need to adjust other settings to make fast timings work?
Undervolting on new AMD cards is great, because you typically get more performance with lower temps and noise because you just boost higher under the same power budget. How much depends on the silicon lottery basically, but I recommend everyone to basically just turn down the voltage percentage scaler until you crash a benchmark immediately, and then turn it up ~5%. You can find the sweetspot more accurately (depends on thr load too) but you should be stable like that. If you still get crashes just turn the dial 1% up at a time until it doesn't.
bro can u undervolt my booty
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I might try this at later date
Gain a lot of fps by underlying and OC. Getting at least 10% more fps a game
I switched from a 3060 to a 7800 xt, been loving it. More of a competitive player over ray tracing so I just appreciate the raw performance of the 7800 xt. Price per frame is like half the 4070 especially when I got mine on a Black Friday deal, a xfx Merc 319 Radeon RX 7800 xt with a 3 year warranty and I got a free game with it. And I only paid, 500 no tax in nh at that time when I got my card 😅 very beefy card if you go the other manufacturers route so make sure you take that into consideration. Actually didn’t even install mine right away until I ordered a cooler master v3 vertical mount for my ATX case cause for example the OC xfx card is literally massive. Nice build quality over the regular stock Radeon, with the sales always happening with amd I wouldn’t recommend getting the base card. My xfx card stays cool and quiet and it may not be like in your face with rbg, but it does what I need it to do while looking sleek and cool with the all black and silver feel with the xfx white logo.
I have a 4060 ti 8gb, would an upgrade to a 7800xt be worth it, or should I go with the 7900 xt?
A lot of solid information in this video! I appreciate your time and effort
Thank you 🙏
Deliberately or not, this is only showing a fraction of what this card is capable of.
Awesome video! Man I know that took a great deal of time to run all those various tests, compile, edit, etc - and it is greatly appreciated!!! Keep on ERockin' ;)
Thank you 🙏 I really appreciate it! Thanks again for sending the card! The video isn’t possible without you! 💪
You're an MVP, my man. Thank you for sending it to Erock so he could give it a proper review for his viewers!
@@mannydcbianco Thank you. I think for the money it may be the best card out there. I am a fan of performance, and I think ERock's video checked a lot of boxes! 😀
@@RKBenchmarker I am inclined to agree. At the very least it's the easily best value in the current generation of graphics cards, and that's coming from someone who recently bought a 7900 XT and is absolutely loving it.
There's always going to be the argument that the 7800 XT is barely faster than the 6800 XT - and it's 100% true - but power consumption is down _a lot_ and the 7800 XT will most likely see driver support and game optimizations at least two years beyond the EOL of the 6800 XT.
And it has AV1 encoding for streamers and content creators. Even non-streamers can benefit from the AV1 support if/when they sell the card a few years down the line, because even if they don't care about AV1 a future buyer might, and that's going to make the card easier to sell at a slightly higher price.
@mannydcbianco That's some really good points!
My local pc store in the Bay Area has a lot of them stocked. This paycheck I’m grabbing one even though I don’t need it 💯
Lol sounds good. It's a fun card to play with for sure.
Dude, love your heavy emphasis on transparency. It’s a small detail, but you gained a subscriber here. Hope you go big.
Wow man, thank you! Great video! I'm probably getting the 7800XT soon soo, I had to watch this :D Thank you for all the tests, that was very nice and I like to see all of those kinds of test. When I get it, I will definitely undervolt it. Thank you again for a great review. :)
Have a sapphire pure 7800XT and love it, no regrets so far 😅
Im looking forward to buy one, Its on sale in my country, for only 460 euros. Please reply to this, i really need a honest opinion on an user
it's amazing how you can get more fps while getting lower power usage with undervolt
I know right!
Great video, thanks for the info I'll be able to look back on it 6 years from now when I'm able to afford one and see what I'm in store for, lol. In all seriousness thanks a lot and I appreciate the time and effort you put into bringing us this great data. #StayFrosty my friend.
Thank you! The positive feedback is appreciated more than you know.
I have the gigabyte version of the 7800XT. It runs very cool, but temperatures don’t really see much of an improvement with the undervolt, only the wattage which I reduced it by about 50W on most games. To me that’s a win alone. Great video!
Thank you. Did you adjust the fan curve?
@@JohnnyEMatos Less power often leads to lower temps. After all, it’s the power running through the card that makes it hot.
@@ErockOnTech Of course, I don't know what my silly ass was thinking... anyway, I think since I can't undervolt my card much, I can't see a difference in temps, but I just get higher clock speeds. I envy those who can undervolt below 1130 mv
@@JohnnyEMatos How many games have you tried with your under volt? Because one game might not take less than 1130 but another game might.
@@ErockOnTech sadly 1130mv is the lowest I can go on the more forgiving titles. Most will need 1150mv
Great video . I bought a 7800 xt Saphire Pulse needed something a little smaller because of my case size . I love it glad I got it .
CLEAN AND CRISP REVIEW
Thank you!
You can undervolt and overclock at the same time, which usually gives better performance. It's not a case of one or the other, so much as using both.
I have just started watching your videos, and they are really high quality!, hopefully we can continue getting this quality content or even better congrats for the effort.
Thank you! I really appreciate that! Quality is always my main goal! I do my best as a one man team on a budget. Thank you 🙏
I build and rent plus sell pc for small business and your video have really help me alot was deciding either to buy 7000or just choose 6000 series gpu because team green is very selfish with your time pf work and dedication inhave seen where to spend my money thanks alot vro good work.
One thing I’ve personally done to cut down trial and error is to Auto OC/UV then take the values and manually combine all three results with max power slider and a bit more voltage
Interesting approach. Thanks for sharing.
Really great video! Honestly I was surprised to see the UV vs. OC settings. Maybe AMD should take note and just set this card to this UV by default to better compete vs. the 4070 in terms of power draw.
Edit: I just got inspired by your video to try and Undervolt my 6900 XT Limited and I can't believe I didn't do this sooner. Playing CP2077 RN and basically the benchmark test went from 1.200V@341W -> 1.050V@267W with a ~2 FPS average drop for CP2077 (getting about 100 FPS on 1440p Ultra no-RT native) just by dropping the max frequency from 2700 to 2560. There's clearly some hidden algorithm with AMD here so there's more testing to go but man, you just saved me a ton of money and heat!
It would be interesting to see how manual undervolting compares to the AMD setting
AMD knows that very well but they have to play it safe for the average consumer. hence they pick voltages that work for every GPU they're selling.
there were GPUs in the past that ran near their limits and had issues, why would anyone risk that?
They have to keep voltage high, because eventually some cards will be unstable with a lower voltage. They always assume the worst
Keep grinding bro
Thank you 🙏
does any one here have any info for the Hellhound RX 7800 XT for the Sizes of there Thermal Pads? i been to and fro and nothing to be seen. Thank you for sharing
Just bought the XFX Speedster MERC319 RX 7800 XT for $493 from Amazon's Black Friday sale with an employee discount. That's a steal! And now it’s back to $539.
I purcased It and paired It with my i7 4790k and 1440p max detail In Overwatch 2 I am getting my 165fps +- for my 144hz monitor. Its all what I asked for and what I got, great GPU 👌👌
Thanks for sharing! That’s awesome!
Outstanding review, thx for all the work that has gone into it!
I opted for the ASUS TUF version of the 7800XT since it is rated as the most cool & quiet running 7800XT under load. It's pretty chunky sized though. Using it in my new 1440p build, paired with the 65W Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T CPU (using the DeepCool AK620 Digital CPU cooler instead of the mediocre stock AMD Wraith cooler).
That’s awesome! Yeah Asus makes some great products!
What about overclock + under volt? I did this on my rx6800.
I don't understand how the undervolted GPU runs at lower frequency yet presents more FPS. Shouldn't the lower temps result in more time in boost frequency?
Overclocked results show less power draw because the gpu is running cooler, increasing the efficiency.
Dude great vid here. The 7800XT is the replacement for the 6700XT. The 6700XT MSRP was $480 vs $500 for the 7800XT. Basically the same MSRP 3 years later and 47% faster. Think about that. We all know at this point AMD moved names up a peg in error. 7900XT is the 6800XT replacement when priced at $800 and below. 7900XTX is the 6950XT replacement at $900 now. The ONLY reason 6800XT was close to $500 was to clear them out. Everyone understands that now. TLDR on the 7800XT? It's your upgrade from the 6700XT or RTX 3070. AMD should NOT have moved names up like that. Stupid move but the cards are great.
Dude. Your name clearly tells me your position here lol. Look AMD did a scummy move by naming it the 7800 XT. They shifted the product stack exactly like Nvidia. It’s scummy. It’s confusing. If they don’t want it compared to a 6800 XT, then maybe they shouldn’t have named it a 7800 XT. 🤔 I know it’s a crazy thought. But I think you can see where I’m coming from if you really think about it. Also, as a side note, even from the 6700 XT, I don’t think those users should upgrade. Just sit tight with your current and still relevant hardware. Also, the majority of the video is not even about the 6800 XT comparison. That was a couple of lines. Yet, this morning, all you guys only want to talk about is how the 7800 XT is a 6700 XT replacement. Are you guys in a group or something? lol what the heck man? Thanks for the view and comment.
@@ErockOnTech Ya I said it was stupid of them to change all thier naming and I agree it is scummy. My name has been the same for a long time LOL. Long before I was buying AMD cards. And I build 6 or 7 systems a year for people and half of those are nVidia so... ya. I am only ever about best bang for the buck.
Great video man, love the benchmark overload, and the organization of the video. I do agree that if the two cards are on the table, definitely just go with the new one. That being said, I also agree with you that the card isn't super exciting vs the 6800XT. I am glad you mentioned it.
Thanks man for watching and commenting! I do appreciate it! Yeah you know how we have to be careful when talking about AMD GPUs lol. It shouldn’t be that way sadly. But it is. I’m surprised the 6800 XT is still listed for $500 currently. That makes no sense to me.
@@ErockOnTech Eggshells for sure. Yeah it's surprising, I wonder if they have very low stock on those 6800XTs in particular. Intel does that same thing sometimes, you'll see older CPUs pricing through the roof, AMD usually holds stock longer and heavily discounts it. I bet they left the 6800XT price to help move the 7700XTs.
@@techwandoUS You’re probably right. Speaking of Intel, I just got a 14700K. I need to move my system to that and do some content on it.
@@ErockOnTech Nice man, the only worthy CPU of the bunch it seems.
@@techwandoUS Yes, or so I hear. But I don’t think that’s saying much lol. Honestly, I’ve just wanted to try Intel. All I’ve used is AMD Ryzen. So I need some Intel experience. I figured why not start with the “latest and greatest?” Lol.
Hey! Just a tip for benchmarking halo. You can use theater mode to replay the exact same match in game to get a good comparison
Good video man. Well done.
Good card, but yes perhaps not the best upgrade path for current owners of the
RX 6800 XT.
Thank you I appreciate it!
Gigabyte Radeon RX 7800 XT Gaming OC 16GB its worth to buy for gaming and working in 2024?
Yes.
He said it, this card simply isn't for 6800xt owners moreover, the way things worked out, you can't get buy a more powerful gpu around this price point no matter which camp you look at unless you are willing to buy used. It is a wonderful card for someone like me that upgraded from a 1070ti. Not gonna lie though.... It may get sold if the 4070 super is actually released on AD103 and doesn't cost 800 Dollars.
You get it. Sadly, many others do not.
I haven't gotten that high of temps on my stock 7800xt, highest settings in any demanding games. chills at about 60-65F.
would be more interesting to see fan rpm included to these to have some kind of idea about the possible noise difference.
Am I the only one that wants a t shirt that says “As you can see”? Lol 😂 by far my favorite erock line! Great video! I agree with your final thoughts. No the 7800xt not this big leap but if you are coming from 5000 or even lower end 6000 amd GPUs this a really great upgrade from the price so we love to see that.
Yeah I realized during my edit that I kept saying that. I was like why the heck do I keep saying that? Lol 😂
It would be interesting to see how these newer cards run on older games like arma or dayz
at max settings, blazing frame rates in the hundreds of fps.
It's nice to see how the games were supposed to look back then
If you overclock too much on core with too much voltage, it underclocks your memory. This is because of the power limit.
That's why you have some weird results.
Interesting. I appreciate the explanation. I think Jay had this problem with the XTX on launch.
That exact issue was at launch and was fixed with an update. The reason for some of the "weird" results was because of the game itself causing the know issue (such as the OC gpu having a lower wattage usage than stock). In the OC, the mV was left at default so he was strictly testing OC vs UV.
I’m getting one to play 4K 120Hz Call of Duty on my 50” TV. Got a Ryzen 7 5800X with 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz. Will run the game on High/Medium settings but will use FSR if need be.
I bought a 7800XT on 1st Feb, not had a chance to use it yet as I am waiting for the wife to buy me a 1440p monitor and a keyboard, but I have come from an ACER nitro 5 gaming laptop which I have been playing on for 4 years, I can’t wait to start playing on my new set up :) anything I bought was going to be better than my 1660Ti mobile GPU in my laptop, I sadly couldn’t justify the £100 - £300 uplift for the 4070 Super or 4070Ti Super respectively.
Will definitely look at undervolting options and a custom fan curve for better power and thermal performance :)
I managed to pick up my Sapphire Pulse 7800XT for £489.98 here in the UK
I may put this on my Christmas list
What will you do with your 6700 XT?
@@ErockOnTech I do have both a 5600X and a 5600x3D. Will likely build another system and throw it in that
@@djmidnightwolf Awesome! Sounds good!
Excellent Vid.
I'm going from a GTX 1080 to the RX 7800 XT - and from this vid - I can say it's probably gonna blow my mind. LOL
Have to give kudos the the GTX 1080 though - it served me well for 6 1/2 years. For the most part, with a few exceptions - I could play almost everything at full or close to full blast (minus RayTracing of course).
My 7800 XT should be arriving tomorrow, can't wait.
So, do you like it?
@@erbalumkan369 It's Epic!
@@monkinsane which brand did you get?
@@erbalumkan369 Got the AsRock Challenger RX 7800 XT.
I don't understand your numbers at 13:20, your clock speed is significantly lower with your undervolt settings, it shouldn't yield better frame rate, are you sure the settings are a 100% match?
I just bought the ASROCK Challenger version of this card for 469 with 2 free games in October, 2024… thinking that is a pretty good deal…
whats going on is your voltage is too high so the gpu clocks are all over the place... i need to undervolt AND overclock
great video. loved the undervolt testing. Wished there was 4k footage though with demonstrations as to why you don't recommend it as a 4k card. I'm looking for a 4k card for an MMO with high detail characters with lots of flashy korean avatar accessories and I don't want it to bog down. (black desert online) Dunno what to pick
Don't listen to him about the 4k. With FSR turned on at quality and ultra settings this card will excell. I run a Sapphire 5600 XT with FSR balanced in cyberpunk 2077 and am around 30-60 fps. You will need to watch a settings video on youtube to find out which settings you can free with no cost and which actually decreases performance. And I do play on a TV, flasgship samsung Q90T 55', you will have no problem running 4k with this card. To be completley honest the HDR matters more and HDR is fps agnostic, but is depended on the quality of your monitor/tv.
@@mattiasolsson2354 nice. I'll be using a 4k TV and a 1440p monitor in tandem, so it looks like I should be okay. 'still have to build the desk and stuff though heh. thanks for the reassuring comment.
there's also now a RX 7900 GRE. Supposedly something in between the RX 7800 XT and the RX 7900 XT. you pay more but it doesn't quite get the job done 🤔
Ultimately i went with the RX 7800 XT for midrange gaming on 1440p 180hz IPS monitor.
4080 would be nice if the price was close to a 7800 XT but it isn't. so pass.
In fact the 7900 GRE performs exactly at where it's priced and trades blows with the 4070 ti Super, often beating that GPU in some contexts. If you just bought the 7800 XT and have another $50, take the card back and get a 7900 GRE.
7800xt gigabyte owner here. Really great card at $500. hoping it will last me around 4 years.
Of course it will. I had a GTX1070 since the release of it. Just changed my rig to 7800xt.
I got to talk to RK Benchmarker, really passionate and diligent pc enthusiast, just wanted to say how awesome he is! ❤
Good review of the card. I'm still trying to decide. I might as well wait to see if any good deals come for Black Friday or Cyber Monday
It’s worth buying. I’d say get it in November for a deal.
at 8:25 during hogwarts testing, there's definitely no overclock there since your card is running at 2500 in both instances
Was considering 6700s, 6750, 6800s, 3060 12gb, heck even Arc A770 16gb to throw into my rig- the main limit is I DON'T want to replace my 650w power supply so 6800xt is a stone too far. Just found a used 7800x reference design for 370 that I just could NOT ignore. It may stress my power supply BUT I'll undervolt it from the start and see how that goes. worse case scenerio I can flip it on ebay for 420ish (hopefully it works and in tact... Amazon Warehouse just said 'very good' so I'm a little worried maybe a fan is missing a blade or doesn't work :/ if the card itself doesn't work I'm betting on them taking the return? hopefully?).
Nice video! :D
I've yet to hear anyone discuss if they've had any Driver issues with these cards??
Was going to get rx 7800xt becuze 7900xt cost +300€ more in Sweden, end up with rx 6950xt overclocked it to 2550-2750Mhz ay 1100mV fan curve at auto and hit 365W at 72C temperatur goes 23800 points in time spy run have same score as rtx 4070ti.
a bit late to the party but do you guys think the extra 50 bucks is worth it for the 3 fan version or is the 2 fan version enough? Can't really find info on this lol
Can you use a 7800xt with a b460 plus motherboard and i5 10400f or would those need replacing too.
Can you help me decide between the 7800 XT and the 4070? I’ll be using it for gaming and game development in UE5. I’m a beginner with 3D games and modeling, and I’m unsure about which one to pick. The 16GB VRAM on the 7800 XT seems great for future-proofing. If I were to use ray tracing at a medium level while making games, would the 7800 XT be able to handle it? I'm just a bit confused about what to buy.
Lol I was kinda unhappy with my Nitro+ being at 67C gpu and 85C edge ingame, but now I see that undervolting makes it like 10C cooler.
Can I get it with my PSU of 600W?
It depends on your other components as well. But most likely yes, you’ll be fine.
@@ErockOnTech I have i5 11400F, 16GB 3200 and now RX6600XT. I need just to upgrade GPU.
@@bosnianaviation5531You’ll be fine.
@@ErockOnTech Thank you.
@@bosnianaviation5531You’re welcome!
Good advice - noticed 6800 and 7800 are now bundled with the Phantom game
I do recall you said you wouldn't use this for 4K, and I agree to an extent... but I would confidently recommend this as a bare minimum for 4K, where I don't think I can say the same confidently about the 6800xt. They do tend to mature in drivers over time, as you referenced with the 6800xt.
I really don't understand either hardware company cutting power in a stack shift, you'd think they'd try to do the opposite. 🤣
Yeah and 4K is hard to gauge because if you're running Halo The Master Chief collection, for example, you can max that game out at 4K and run a locked 120 FPS on a 3070. So clearly in that regard, a 7800 XT is a 4K card. But I wouldn't use it for 4K in CyberPunk for example. So as with all things in the PC space, it depends lol. But 4K is demanding in general. I really do believe 1440p is the sweet spot.
The 7900XT is the entry 4k card IMO
Yes I've tested the cards 😀
@@TheRealDlo I'm not really sure what to say here, because it's not an entry card at any level lol. The 6900/6950xt does 4k just fine... like most cards with the exception of CP77, which can even to this day cripple a 4090 with path tracing. Speaking of which, are we excluding nVidia? Because I've got a 3080ti that says it's a 4k60+ card on every title I've thrown at it, including CP77. Even as biased as UB is against AMD, they aren't claiming a 3080ti beats a 7900xt... so I don't agree in the slightest either.
I'm not saying I'd recommend the 7800xt as *_the_* card to get for 4k, as Erock says... and I agree... its' niche is clearly 1440p. It is also the bare minimum in *my* opinion, that you can buy from AMD in this gen, and game respectably at 4k. It can be two things at once, after all. lol
I have a RX 7800 XT but have no idea how to change the color? Can you even change it?
where i live they do not have any rx 6800 xt for sale
That’s so fire!
Thank you 🙏 but what is? Lol 😂
Guys i have a ryzen 7 5700x with an rx7800xt. Im getting 58 fps in cyberpunk with the latest drivers and cpu usage is around 100 percent and gpu usage is around 94 to 95 percent. Can anyone help me with this please? Settings are 1440p ultra/medium
Should i get this or the 7900XT..waiting on that black friday sale
More features, and updates for the 7800xt, which is why I went with the Sapphire Pure 7800XT.
How would this card go with R5 5600x? Im seeing alot of bottleneck but it’s all i can afford atm?
my 3080ti is slowly dying after a year of owning it , can't rma so thinking of switching teams ig.
Sorry to hear that. I was of the impression the 3080ti actually should last longer than the 3090 on average, numerous sources have said the 3090 has more cooling issues. But I’ve seen others are having their 3080tis die too.
I need a honest opinion here, is it ok to pair the 7800xt with a 5600x for 1440p gaming or should I look into upgrading to a 5700x3d?, I wish I could just really pair it with the 5600x but want to avoid stutters due to possible higher than normal bottleneck.
quick blunt comment.
i enjoy your relatability and i am a new sub.
i run a i7 14700kf with a reddevill 7800xt, ive had a 4070 super and a 4080 super in my rig, i love the 7800xt for the raw value to performance on 1440p gaming, i really like the quick informational logic you use and im here for future videos. ive been thinking of switching my cpu to amd what would you consider a fair trade or upgrade???
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You should provide a detailed video on how to undervolt this card for many users out there. There isnt much video regarding undervolting
Just grabbed an AsRock Steel Legend 7800 XT for my sons build, pairing it with a 7800x3d so he should be able to upgrade to a discounted 7900xtx in a year or so without changing anything else because most other parts are on the high mid range or high end side. Just couldn’t justify the additional $400+ for the 7900 xtx at this time. Even $200 for the 4070 ti super or 7900 XT just doesn’t seem like it’s worth it tbh… I could care less about RT and he’s 12 and just dying for a gaming PC. 😂
Hey man I have a 7800xt and thinking of getting a 49” 5120x1440p do you have any idea what fps will I be getting on average? I play rpg games, sim racing and some fps games
I found a subreddit thread on this very topic. Maybe it will help you. www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/s/7TK8sJ8FRj
my card is very loud is it supposed to be like this i hear it above the game even when temps are under 50 degrees and i set the fans as low as 30%
Get my man some merch ASAP!
What merch ideas do you have?
@ErockOnTech I'd say , Start easy. T-shirts, beer cozys, etc. Cheep , simple, and easily purchased in bulk.
The selling point of the 7800XT vs 6800XT is the AI, the new chip is going to have important new tools to outperform a lot of cards around it
But what does that really mean in terms of gaming performance? Does the AI chip in the 7800XT help with that somehow?
what does AI even mean in this case
Do you think this graphics card requires a GPU support bracket? Is the card heavy?
I bought 2 sapphire nitro+ 7800xt for my gf and I and mine was a bust, it goes up to 68c while hers goes to 52c while we play the same game, same pc basically (h9 flow, 10 fans, same push/pull) gonna return it to microcenter before return window
I saw a bundle deal of a 32 inch monitor paired with a 4070 for $999 Canadian and was wondering should I buy it the monitor is the gigabyte M32qc
Buying these cards not pre-owned is crazy.
I bought the Pulse Version of the card and replaced the 6700XT Pulse. I also have the Phantom Gaming 6950XT so I have compared them all and the performance of the 7800xt Is very Impressive for me. I would say it's around 7% under the 6950xt and about 10% higher than the 6700XT . I must say my 6700XT is a Golden Silicon as it runs better than any benchmark I have seen online by about 8% so your mileage will vary, I have not tried 4K yet as I just got a 4K monitor. Conclusion for me is for the 500-525.00 you cant beat the 7800XT and should be set for 3 years no problem.
That is a fair assessment! I agree. The 7800 XT is a solid card for sure!
7800xt is more like 30% or more faster than rx 6700xt in games. I know how much is faster than rx6800, own both 6800 and 7800xt and 6700xt is quite slower than rx6800 with proper cpu like 5800x3d.. I can set my 7800xt to run over 3ghz for 1080p benchmarks but in games those settings will never work so its not really relevant..
@@roki977 Your right
namste, i want to know that what is your opnion on 7800 XT with 5800x combo in ROG strix b550 F gaming mobo
Cant wait for aftermarket higher tdp bios's to come out
wont the temps be better if i just make the fans go 100% all the time?
Great video! Thinking of buying this soon and I'm very curious about undervolting and reducing power draw since I'm using a 650w PSU. It's amazing to see how you can reduce power draw by 40-70 watts and still keep the performance at around stock levels, because the power draw was my only problem with the GPU.
overclock vs undervolt... I mean, crank the voltage down to stable then push clocks and aim for a certain temp..
LOL I have a r9 fury and AMD dropped support for it.. which sucks because it's still plenty of card considering what I paid for it. I'm watching prices through cyber monday.
it's not the games that can or cannot take an overclock, it's the overclock that is unstable to run that game. which just means it's an unstable overclock.
also cards are not "meant" for a certain resolution, because performance requirements change all the time and from game to game.
they simply deliver stable and reasonable fps at certain resolutions and details.
AMD actually says that the 7800XT is a replacement for the 6800, not the 6800XT. The name scheme makes it confusing.
Yes, you are correct. I addressed this in my last video regarding the 7800 XT vs the 6800 XT. I compare it to the 6800 XT because I believe that is what the average consumer will do. Consumers tend to look at products based on name before specs.
Just like nvidia said they made 4080 to compete with the 7900 xt
Thinking about downgrading from my 4090 to the 7800xt
The whole debate about what GPU can game at what level comes down to what games one wants to play. Are the 6800XT and 7800XT capable of 4K gaming and high FPS with full-on settings? Yes, unless you insist on playing the most demanding games (the ones on which RUclips testers always to seem to focus). I play FFXIV, a ten-year-old game on a custom engine, at 4K native maxed out on a 6800XT / 13700X system, both stock. I almost never see less than 100FPS of glitch-free game play. So for me, the 680XT is a 4K card.
This man gets it. It's a ridiculous thing to say you can't game at 4k with this card. With FSR balanced I get 30-60fps on Cp77 with a Sapphire 5600 XT and curated settings.
I understand where you are coming from, but these tests need to match current hardware with current titles to give a reasonable expectation to viewers. Sure, you can run older, less demanding titles perfectly at high resolutions with older or less powerful hardware, so it goes without saying that this card can run csgo at 4k. It is more relevant to see the limits where the hardware starts to struggle to properly assess its capabilities wouldn't you agree?
@@qtrg5794 Yes, it is relevant, but I would say it's just equally relevant, not more. We still need to see how various hardware performs on older titles because games don't always scale linearly. Reviewers tend to rank GPUs as 1080p, 1440p, or 4K cards based on how newer games play on them, largely because the entire industry wants us all to buy those newer games that require more powerful hardware which drives in turn demand for that hardware. The new titles, therefore, get talked about. A lot. If I were on the selling side of PC gaming, I'd do the same thing.
But I'm on the buying/playing side, so my perspective is different. No reviewer is going to call a 6700XT a 4K card, but for the game I play most, it can probably achieve 4K maxed at 60 FPS. But we don't know for sure unless somebody tests that scenario. Of course, nobody can test every game on every hardware setup, but many reviewers actually _do_ test new hardware on popular older titles. GN even tests on FF14! And that's what we need to keep seeing because without it we will struggle to maintain our perspective. We need reviewers to be more "cautious" about slotting GPUs in the 1080p, 1440p, and 4K pigeon holes.
@@rangersmith4652 fair argument to be honest
Providing all my prebuilt equipment can handle without bottlenecking how difficult is it to remove my 4060 and replace it with a 7800xt? Any help or video recommendations appreciated, im a pc complete nooob but now in my 50's have a little coin to spare. Id love to build a pc but im pc stupid at this point.
It's extremely easy probably the easiest part to replace. If you actually still need help I can help ya out. It's hard to explain over text but there's usually a clip holding the GPU to the motherboard. It needs to be pushed down then pull on the card and it should just come out.
I dont know which one i need to chose 4070ti ore 7800xt. I had a amd gaming laptop whit nvidea gpu but evrytime i update my gpu after the windows update it gave me problems... im scared if i go for 7800xt i wil get same problems..
Could someone please elaborate why undervolting leads to higher FPS? I would have thought its the other way! Would it work th esame on my old 1060 6GB too? Thanks!
It gives your GPU headroom to boost clock speeds, which are dependent to some extent on heat, which is usually lower with undervolting.
The problem here is AMD's naming scheme. In reality, 7900XTX should be 7900XT and everything follows suit. So 7800XT should actually be 7700XT and it reflects with the performance. 7900XT should be the 7800XT which is the successor of the 6800XT. One possibility is so that they can sell it at a higher price while making people think they are selling it at lower.
6800XT MSRP at launch is $649; 7800XT MSRP at launch is $499. Now if you think 7800XT is the successor, it would give the illusion that AMD lowered it's price. But if you look at 7900XT which should be the actual 7800XT, it's $899.
i know its kinda past the video date, but has anyone made a comprehensive list of 2 fan vs 3 fan performance ?
i really dont mind a 3 fan, however a 2 fan model would mean i could put my hard drive dock back into my pc lmao
3070 ti took that away from me
Which version of the 7800XT do u recommend? Ik there is a sapphire nitro, pulse and pure version as well as a gigabyte version, hellhound, powercooler, ASrock, Asus versions
late but it doesnt really matter much at most it will make 2-3 fps difference for 30 dollars more
What is a better option for around the same price with better performance
The 7900 GRE.