My most expensive mistake so far. What's yours?
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My most expensive mistake was starting woodworking😅 it gets more expensive every day 😂
Do not worry, everything is just learning process,you get used to making mistakes, and better at fixing them 😊
OOh man i feel that more days than I would like :)
I never LOSE, I either WIN or LEARN. - Nelson Mandela Great solution Jay and an awesome recovery.
Well buddy, show me a man who never made a mistake, and I'll show a man who never made anything! Great video,thank you
When i first started business for myself at the age of 21, I had to make a set of driveway entrance gates. I'd already been and measured up and make the gates back in the workshop. The day came to fit them on the already in place stone pillars, I hung one and drilled the stay bolt in the drive, looked great. Hung the other on the other pillar and just gave it a swing towards the other stayed gate fully expecting them to latch together when they met! The gate missed by 30cm, swung around completely and snapped both hinges out the stone pillar. That was an expensive day! did you know that if you hold your tape with your left hand a 6 looks like a 9?
I made a small decorative bench as a gift for a friend. I paid a local artist to carve something cute on one side. Before delivering the final product I found out it was too big for the intended purpose, so I decided to cut it down - it was simple enough that it could be resized. Instead of cutting the blank side, I cut right into the artist's carving.
Those are easily sold for $130. Cut and glue them into end grain boards and even more.
For just Maple? Not sure I agree. End grain would be cool, but then again more labor costs.
Yes I was wondering the whole time if they were end grain boards or just side grain.
I don’t know about $100 cutting boards though. I sure would never buy one.
I have made some end grain boards out of walnut. I sold a couple for $75. I ended up giving some as gifts. I see people selling them online.
@@5280Woodworking for white maple that looks that good yes. I am not tied to any of these, heck my shop is closed due to caring for an elderly father but Fifth & Cherry, only cherry endgrain, $600. Samara Table company $130 maple/cherry edge grain. John Boos maple only edge $257. I'm just saying they might not be the write off you think.
@@dagwood1327 Yea 75 is reasonable.
1) At 70 and retired, most of my work now is for family and friends; I only do production work for charitable causes, such wands for kids' camps, etc. Accordingly, no idea what I would sell for.
2) My greatest 'save' to date, oddly enough, is the workbench I'm currently building. After decades of working on construction lumber benchtops (serviceable, but not FINE) I bought the Euro Beech for a fancy Roubo/Nicholson hybrid and rough cut it to come to equilibrium. Long story short, I cut all the lengths of this fairly expensive wood too short. After cut-and-yield calculations, I decided to go with it and make the benchtop length 62" instead of 96." I really hardly ever do cabinet / long work anymore and my shop space is only about 17 x 23.
With this concession in mind, I decided to revisit all my design parameters and quickly realized I've read too many books and listened to too many 'gurus.' The bench I'm now building will likely be my last and I'm building it to suit my needs and preferences, rather than chasing some stylized ideal.
I thought this would resonate with you, Jay, because one of the things I like most about your approach is your practicality / pragmatism.
Keep on keeping on, as will I.
Michael (Gramps)
For the basic sizes that aren’t to elaborate I do $.45 a cubic inch for face grain and $.55 a cubic inch for end grain to start. Seems to work well
Made a games table for a client with a rectangle cutout in the middle for a TV. This was a recessed plywood box attached to the tabletop. The client knew the size of the TV they were going to put in it but not which one so I didn't cut the hole for the power cord/vents yet. This table was solid 50mm oak with a bunch of american walnut inlays, a bunch of CNC'ed game logo's in it (had that done because I don't have a CNC or a Shaper). It took about 2 months to build with about 2 weeks worth of my own hours. This table was pretty much finished, other than the power cord/vent holes. Parked the table next to my build table as I do not have a lot of space.
Table almost done. Had to wait for the client to give me the rest of the info. Figured I start on the next project. A client wants a pitch black oak dining table. Since the table is going to be black, I could use some lumber from the "meh" quality pile with a bunch of knot holes and fill it with black epoxy. One of the planks looked okay from the top but had a massive knot hole on the other side. Had the table top already glued up the day before so I build a mold on my build table and put the top in it. The table was slightly bigger than my build table so there was some overhang. Whipped quite a bit of epoxy for some of the large holes, put in way more black pigment than I normally do because why not, the table is going to be black anyway. Pour the epoxy in the knots and cracks, cleaned up the shop, popped some bubbles and went home.
The next day I come into the shop and look at the black table and though "darn, that soaked up pretty much all of the epoxy". Figured there were some holes/cracks in there that I missed. Walked around and I'm pretty sure I had a heartattack when I saw the games table. One of the corners of the mold had a tiny hole in it where the epoxy spilled out into one of the cup holders of the game table. From there it made it way into some of the logo's and into the TV box in the middle. Tried to salvage it but the black pigment stained the top so much I'd have to get atleast 5-10mm removed from the top, not to mention the CNC'd logo's were ruined. Anyway, completely rebuild the table and cut up the old one to make a bunch of small side tables from it to make some of the money back but still, quite a loss.
OMG !!! Sawdust actually hit his floor !!! What is this world coming too??? Is it the Apocalypse??? lol kidding, Jay. Great recovery and great video!
Hahaha. I cried on the inside at that part.
Long before you could buy a drone I had a remote controlled foam airplane, a glider model that I had modified with ailerons and reinforced with carbon rods, and I gave it a much faster RPM electric motor with a race propeller. I also modified the cockpit so that it could carry a digital photo camera which I could operate with a servo. The picture from my YT logo happens to be a picture that I took with my airplane and that camera. It was also well before the GoPro era and the small camera's that we see today. So we are talking about a camera that was about twice as big as a GoPro with the old style heavy batteries. One day I went out to fly, and my mistake was that I forgot to pull out the antenna from my radio controller. The airplane took of just fine, but of course soon enough it was out of reach from my radio controller, and the airplane with the camera inside crashed, and the camera did not survive the rough landing. I could salvage the airplane though.
I framed a garage to the wrong prints. Thought it was a 9’ tall garage, turned out to be 10’. Luckily I caught it half way thru so I had to scrap 3 of the walls. Luckily I had been hoarding osb from the builder, and managed to just have to buy some studs. It only cost me $300 and labour.
For th"e long boards, I like your observation as something to CNC on it - "Put Brisket HERE!"
Most expensive mistake was when getting into woodworking and purchased all my tools cordless. While that may sound unusual, consider buying tools more than double the price and not being convenient. Cordless is great for portability and for tools like screwdrivers and impact drivers. But for high amp draw items like tablesaws, sanders and routers, I’ve spent more wasted time waiting on batteries to charge. Thinking I learned a lesson and bought more batteries, I actually spent even more on higher mah batteries, which didn’t help late projects. Since then, I’m back to corded on most of my tools unless it’s not used much in which case cordless is better.
For Maple, I would have cut them up into 30”x4”x1” and sold them as guitar neck blanks. Anywhere from $40.00 each to as much as $150.00 each, depending on if they’re quartersawn, and have any figuring in the grain, etc…
Good video! I’ve always struggled with pricing projects out for friends and “clients”.. kinda like you said I just come up with a number/price that seems reasonable and try and keep track of my hours and see how I did..? Hope that makes sense…
Long time viewer here.. back to the apartment days.. keep up the good work sir it’s been a pleasure to watch from afar.
Hey, that box of small offcuts would make great building blocks for Christmas toy drives.
@@cam7724 Hope you're wrong, just made about 300 for donation.
I made twin black walnut conference tables for two of our offices. Both with custom cor-ten steel bases for aesthetic. The first one went off great and on the second, I installed the base with the same bolt inserts but did not notice I grabbed bolts that were 1/4" longer. Needless to say, I put the fasteners thru the top of the table. First lesson: Look at the bolts, lol. Second, don't use an impact driver to install fasteners in woodworking. Third, don't wear earbuds with tunes going while driving fasteners thru a piece (that is, until you know you are good to go). I ended up cutting the piece in to thirds for end tables. I fixed the holes by CNC routing in trout patterns that were black epoxy inlayed. They turned out pretty cool, but stupid mistakes ruled the day.
I was working on an custom solid cherry entertainment unit for a customer that was about 9 feet long and 8 ft tall, While working on it, The math wasn't working out and something was wrong but I couldn't figure it out. So, I called the customer, asking if I could stop by and double check my measurements. When I got back to my shop, I discovered that I built the base unit 7" too long!!! It wouldn't fit in the space. The base unit was 4 separate cabinets, so I removed and built 2 new middle cabinets and finished the project to the customers delight. Afterwards, I took the 2 middle cabinets, made some different trim and changed the style a little bit and then sold it as a stand alone TV stand for almost $5000. Cha- Ching!!!!
Niiiice
“I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free.” Michelangelo Congratulations! You set the cutting boards free!
I do ~$50-$70/bdft for end grain cutting boards depending on wood species.
Charge a day rate plus materials. For example, $500 a day plus $1,000 in materials. Divide that by the number of pieces made. Adjust the day rate to match your level of craftsmanship and adjust the final price per the market.
Failures are opportunities to learn.
I have mentally blocked out most of the expensive screwups. Good choice on the big cutting board. I have to make due on a too small plastic one when I do brisket. A drip channel of some sort would be nice to catch the fat that runs off.
Don't know what to tell you on cutting board prices as I never made them I mainly did furniture and other big stuff. And I never charged enough for my work.
May have to bring you some Mesquite for your smoker one of these days. I need to make a trip to MS in the future to check out a piece of property near French Camp once the surveying has been done. Long story
Great video Jay! My biggest mistake was similar to your but from a different angle. When I started building end grain cutting boards, I came up with the idea to cut butcher blocks into strips and glue them into end grain cutting boards. It saves a bunch of milling and glue up so clearly it's a good idea. i went out, got a couple of 8' butcher blocks for 500$ and made a couple of test cutting boards that took a massive warp as soon as they touched water. I assume it has to do with the glue used for making them in the first place and then I realized I don't even know if it's food safe. So.. Now I have two butcher blocks collecting dust in my garage waiting for projects.. Live and learn buddy. Maybe show us that brisket in an upcoming vid.. Enjoy your trip!
That would have made some great guitar neck and body blanks, especially maple. You should see the prices on those, you could’ve doubled your money!
Add some more labor and make end grain cutting boards. I'll do that with scraps and messed up projects. It's hard to cutup an unused piece but it's now out of sight.
Still trying to figure the best way to salvage my failed table top...like you, it makes me sick to think about cutting it up, lol
When I make a woodworking mistake, I remind myself that wood grows on trees. 🌳
Not a failure. But a story nonetheless. My wife wanted me to build her a shoe rack that would be a pseudo-built in. I had it all basically done, except for sanding and painting. She came out to the garage and in my opinion not the best tone, to make sure I measured correctly. That project sat there for two months, because I just couldn't get to it. I resented the project for the remainder of the time. However, it's done now and she was really appreciative afterwards. I told her next time, to just let me fail on my own I don't need her help to fail. 😂
Awesome video Jay. Most people have been where you are or will be. We can all relate. Can't help with pricing. Will watch the comments for my own education.
I really don't have a lemons to lemonade story, because when I screw something up, it's always FUBAR. Any pieces I mess up, end up in the trash, or the scrap wood pile to hopefully find it's way into another project somewhere down the road. Having said that, I'm interested in the cutting board you made with the dog bone inlays.
I don’t feel so bad now. This weekend I built a bench. After it was done, I was unhappy with it. However, at least the wood is salvageable. I’ll try again with the same wood.
The large board was screaming brisket at me as well, and then mentioned a 30-35 lb. Suckling pig! Wouldn’t that board look great cover in a bed of lettuce with dinner resting on top?
I like your lemonade sir, sell those cutting boards at the right of year and think you could do better than doubling the material cost.
My personal lemons to lemonade story..
I was hired to build a modular garden fence, that could be disassembled in the winter. The customer wanted cedar, so cedar it was. Two weeks later I try contacting them and get no answer. Turns out he was deployed overseas and since they were renting she took the kids to stay with family.
Recently I took the fence apart and used the cedar to build a potting bench and sold it via a local greenhouse. Didn't make as much as I hoped, but came away with some cash in my pocket.
My grandpa always tells me when mistakes happens "we dont live enough to make them all". Live and learn.
Put a Brisket on me, that board was shouting at me and said I need a full Rack of Ribs on me 😊🧑🍳🐷🐖
It’s not a mistake it’s a learning experience.
While cutting on a table saw an expensive veneer plywood my helper stumbled taking a chunk out of it used large contrasting wooden handles to hide the error. Crisis avoided
Wouldn't it have been more efficient to cut it one strip off from the biscuit? Sure the last row of boards would be smaller but overall waste would be less. Or do you not want the biscuits at all in the boards?
I had the same thought
Yea me too
I didn't do that because I'm an idiot.
@@JayBates haha. Fair enough. Perhaps THAT was your most expensive mistake? 😆
Someone sent me here to watch your videos and they also said you may have some hickory. I want to make some stickball sticks for my brother in law and niece. Which traditionally they are made from hickory
If you had a son those boards (before you cut them up) would make an excellent (if expensive) base for a model railway.
I don't know what the equivalent for daughters would be.
I sell similar sizes for $100-120. No juice groove. Bull-nose recess on the ends for "handles" or a plate to slide under. Silicone feet.
Good info
Did you know dewalt makes a dust port add on for those circular saws? I just found out and im going to buy one to try this week they seem inexpensive.
I’ve never really made a mistake that cost me lots of money. I’m a hobbyist woodworker so if I screw something up I fix it or change the design to eliminate the mistake. Both of which are free.
The only thing I can think of is In Home remodeling when I notched out a piece of ship lap the wrong way. The board wasn’t usable then so we had to get s new board. So I don’t know, $20 as my most expensive mistake.
My most expensive mistake was to not buy a sliding table saw back in the 1960s. It cost me about 15% of my hourly for around 15 years. In today´s money around $350.000
Check in your area for cook off competitions. I bet your target customers for those big cutting boards will be there. I have had several “learning mistakes”. 40 yrs ago I lived near Tupelo and bid a job for $7K. It cost me $10K. No lemonade. I was 19 yrs old. I wanted to quit so bad. I feel your pain.
I was running blow east coast. Arrested. Large fines. Lost 52,000 that day.
thanks
My most expensive mistake? My marriage 😂😂
Exactly!
Lol
Yup, I know that one! 39 years of my life I will never get back, plus all the costs. 😮😢
@PrimalEdge “That’s what she said!”
@@barstad-9591 BAHAHA I wouldn’t bet against that 😂😂👍
Still, every mistake is an opportunity
If you have a laser engraver, you can print anything on the board and sell them at a higher price than $30 per board ft.
Born to bring the laughs, the universe's pricey punchline!
Currently my most expensive mistake is ruining a 600 EUR slab with my router flattening jig. I didn't secure it well enough to the table and the end result was a completely unusable piece. Oh well, we learn from these mistakes :)
Easier to swallow if you think of it as "It's my worst mistake so far"
Looking fit brother.
The sink counter slab was one thing but the other full slab you should never have cut up. You would have found a use for it at some point.
Personally I wouldn't have chopped either one of them up.
thank you
I was seeing nice maple half lap bar stools since that’s what I made my last 3 from!
I found this difficult to watch, all i could think of was the tables, benches and other furniture it could have been made into.
I charge double material cost.
Why no track saw?
Never felt the urge to buy one. I know they are great.
My first wife. 😅
Did you do it again?😮
Oof, sorry Jay. 😕 But thanks for sharing. Even my heroes can make mistakes which is oddly inspiring to me. How come you couldn’t reuse it for a smaller table top or something similar? At least it’s not going to waste. Great video! 👍🏼
Route the edge with dominoes and inset an accent bead.
My biggest mistakes have female names.
Ouch!!!!
Definitely and awww CRAP moment. Kinda like watching the Lions attempt football.
Slap some MSU logos on them and sell them for 100$ plus
Hope you get your money back. Probably will if you sign each one and sell.
Getting married.
If your biggest failure is doubling up your money you're not doing too bad.
Doubling up on materials only; he mentioned a significant loss on labour.
To make meat taste good! :)
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That hurts to watch.
Part way through I noticed you're wearing crocks in the shop. Credibility gone. By by
I've never had crocks. These are cheap zero drop barefoot shoes. Nearly the opposite of a crock sole.
For the cutting board that you keep you should cnc “Jays Custom Meat” or “Jays Meat” and then inlay that with walnut or cherry or some other contrasting wood. I know how much that must’ve hurt to have to cut those pieces up like that. I made an end grain cutting board quite a while ago that I had to cut up because it didn’t line up right and the pattern; which there wasn’t particularly complex or ornate; didn’t come out right either.