Awesome, thank you! We'll be returning to the normal format for the next few vids, but any tutorial content will be shot like this going forward. We feel it makes more sense to present the information in a way that's easily digestible rather than in the normal format which isn't slowed down or providing any in-depth info while flying.
@@TwoBrosRC No doubt its very time consuming.. I make little 3-5min videos and it requires some effort.. Your videos with all the footage, audio overlay and such are a significant effort. If you goal is to help others learn to PUSH the limits.? You are achieving that goal in spades... BTW, I just pancaked my Ultimate doing some Harrier drills.. I let it get too flat while in the middle of a rudder turn, SMACK!. Just flattened the landing gear.. Its a tough plane..... Thanks again, Will
I love all your videos, but this format is better for tutorial. Great explanations in this one, thanks :) keep ‘em coming, we’ll keep watching and trying to keep up!
I like this format with explaining the maneuvers. It's windy, 10+ mph, almost every day around the CA /NV /AZ intersection. Either fly in the wind or not at all. It definitely adds to the fun. Although most of the damage to my planes is from getting blown over after landing.
Now that we're using a camera capable of shooting at 120 FPS, we can slow footage to half the frame rate and still have it look smooth. This really aids with tutorial content so you can see what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong. It also helps slow down my hand movements so you can see what I'm doing instead of relying on YT's slowdown feature, which isn't as good. Something I've found that helps with wind on the ground is to enable full spoilerons while taxiing in wind to force the plane to stay planted on the ground. That should help prevent blowing over to some extent.
Nice video! Someone else talked about not having more than 45 degrees of aileron as more than that disrupts air over the tail. I’d noticed max aileron seemed to loose control authority, and that explanation made sense.
7:20 On my timber x 1.2, I noticed there's a couple ways to initiate it. But successfully pulling it off depends on when I initiate the aileron and throttle input at a certain angle after it begins to fall. If I don't catch it at that split second it just turns into a flat spin 🤷♀️
That's pretty normal - a botched KE spin turns into a flat spin no matter what you do. I've never successfully KE spun a Timber X. I can do it with the Turbo Timber on-demand but the Timber X simply won't do it for me, no matter what commands I give it.
@@TwoBrosRC maybe I misspoke myself. Perhaps it should be called a knife edge spin. I thought I had seen you perform this maneuver in a previous video. I can sometimes do it with my Crack Yak, but not consistently. I just think it’s a pretty maneuver. Thanks for your reply, Jon. Hope this clarifies things a bit.
Just watched another channel pull about 5oz of weights that were embedded in the nose of the Ultimate. Would be interesting to see what that mod would do for its 3D flying.
Excellent！ We can see the Radio stick so we can study stick control easily. But for Mode 1 flyer if you can use RealFlight9.5 , please show us Mode2 and Mode1 stick control ‼️
Jon: MY ultimate has always 'felt' & acted super tail heavy since i bought it new. (Then got it back after a bunch of trade. Nobody wanted it cause it felt tail heavy 🤷.) Even using a 2700 4s smart pack all the way forward. ANY suggestions is greatly appreciated!!!
Make sure the receiver isn't loose or the AS3X gyro isn't oriented incorrectly. I flew with a guy once who was convinced his Edge 540 was tail heavy until I checked it out for r him and noticed the gyro was correcting in the wrong directions.
The Ultimate is definitely a park flyer. It's less than a meter in wingspan. If you're interested, you can support the channel by picking it up here: amzn.to/3Jgydqm The Timber X is also a good choice: amzn.to/3oKmpTC
I have a few of the EPP profile 3D planes that fly on 3s 450 packs. I picked them up second hand fairly cheap ($50 each with gear), and they are just about my favorite planes to fly. They are lightweight and strong, so even a fairly hard hit doesn't do much damage. Plus I don't have much cash in them, so I have very low nerves practicing 3D maneuvers near the ground! Can't wait to practice some of the techniques in this video. Everything was well-explained!
@@TheFrenchPug Huge thanks for picking up a model from the affiliate links we use! The commission we receive for that sale alone nearly pays for half of one day's worth of video expenses (fuel, time, etc) for Tony to come out. That really helps - thank you so much!
@@notanotherrcchannel Can you provide any links to the kind of airplanes you have? Still looking for something like you're describing. Found a little bi-plane but it's $160 without any battery ($26 extra for 2).
Jon this particular model is nose heavy and I read people had to remove some weights put in the front for learners to have a stable flight, did you lighten weights in the front for this ultimate model?
I enjoyed my IX12 after factory resetting it, but it's kinda slow and is also discontinued. I'd suggest the NX10. It'll continue being updated by Horizon for the foreseeable future. If you'd like to support the channel, you can pick it up via amzn.to/3Q8o6WN and we'll get a small amount of the sale price at no cost to you which will help us get equipment or new models to review and test.
while this is great at explaining the different techniques, i noticed you fly mode 2.....would be great if you have someone who flies mode 1 for us "lefties" if you will....great vid, i learn a lot thanks
Thanks, but we don't fly in mode 1 as none of the people we fly with are left handed, nor do we known any left handed people who could create a tutorial. Sorry!
@@TwoBrosRC bummer!!!.....FYI...im left handed, fly mode 1 and can SORTA fly mode 2 as well (on a simulator!!)..i can also write on a blackboard either hand...don't even ask about ball sports as i swap and change to suit how it feels lol.....been flying 32 years. i would just like to be able to hover and harrier my 30cc ultra stick and do a few other stunts too...i know all the basics etc of standard pattern type manoeuvres, but 3D is just that bit more appealing
Who's fooling anyone? Anything we're doing here can be done with practice. Simulators work great for getting stick time in, but nothing beats real-world experience.
@@TwoBrosRC Anything everywhere can be done with practice. But kicking a ball straight or putting it in the upper corners of a goal 9/10 is miles away from eachother. You never mention once how difficult some of this stuff is. People will just get discouraged if no one tell's them.
@bestamerica you didn't mention those originally. You said car, truck, boat...ground or water operation. A V22 IS technically an airplane because it "takes off" with rotors tilted. It replaced my beloved C2A greyhound that I worked on as a mechanic in the navy. Anything in the sky by means of flight has far more range of motion that something on the ground or especially on water. Rc planes = master race. Kinda like pc gaming lol
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Thanks! Best "tutorial" video yet. Loved the new format. Still like your regular videos too so keep up the great work of building up our hobby!
Awesome, thank you! We'll be returning to the normal format for the next few vids, but any tutorial content will be shot like this going forward. We feel it makes more sense to present the information in a way that's easily digestible rather than in the normal format which isn't slowed down or providing any in-depth info while flying.
Thanks for sharing! I’ll be watching this one many times…
Jon, I think this is your best tutorial video to date... Very well done.....
Glad you think so! It takes a lot of work to make this kind of content so it's really great to hear that you appreciate it!
@@TwoBrosRC No doubt its very time consuming.. I make little 3-5min videos and it requires some effort.. Your videos with all the footage, audio overlay and such are a significant effort. If you goal is to help others learn to PUSH the limits.? You are achieving that goal in spades... BTW, I just pancaked my Ultimate doing some Harrier drills.. I let it get too flat while in the middle of a rudder turn, SMACK!. Just flattened the landing gear.. Its a tough plane..... Thanks again, Will
Oof, sorry to hear that!
I love all your videos, but this format is better for tutorial. Great explanations in this one, thanks :) keep ‘em coming, we’ll keep watching and trying to keep up!
I really like the explanation of the stick maneuvers . I fly mode 1 , so it really helps me understand what you are doing during the flight.
Awesome flying. Thanks for explaining it so clearly makes more positive to try it to
Very nice demonstration, I really appreciate your effort in making and posting this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video/explanation! Never thought of dampening my sticks. I’ll have to check into that. Also like the transcript.
Thanks!
Cheers m8
I like this format with explaining the maneuvers.
It's windy, 10+ mph, almost every day around the CA /NV /AZ intersection. Either fly in the wind or not at all. It definitely adds to the fun. Although most of the damage to my planes is from getting blown over after landing.
Now that we're using a camera capable of shooting at 120 FPS, we can slow footage to half the frame rate and still have it look smooth. This really aids with tutorial content so you can see what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong. It also helps slow down my hand movements so you can see what I'm doing instead of relying on YT's slowdown feature, which isn't as good.
Something I've found that helps with wind on the ground is to enable full spoilerons while taxiing in wind to force the plane to stay planted on the ground. That should help prevent blowing over to some extent.
I was terrified to fly in wind at first, but know I like it as it forces learning.
Great vid, well explained, Thanks for info . Keep up the great vids
Thanks, will do!
Great when you did VO in post. Very clear to follow!
Thank you! I watch all ur videos and love them!
Nice vid learns some new stuff 👍🤝😁
Thanks, your efforts are appreciated.
Very interesting. Thank a lot.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Great video!! Looking forward to more of these.
Nice video! Someone else talked about not having more than 45 degrees of aileron as more than that disrupts air over the tail. I’d noticed max aileron seemed to loose control authority, and that explanation made sense.
That shouldn't be a thing that we're aware of.
I have this plane and run it at 70% throw. It is still a handful.
I replaced the wheels with dubros 3" ultra slims so it would land on grass better.
7:20
On my timber x 1.2, I noticed there's a couple ways to initiate it. But successfully pulling it off depends on when I initiate the aileron and throttle input at a certain angle after it begins to fall. If I don't catch it at that split second it just turns into a flat spin 🤷♀️
That's pretty normal - a botched KE spin turns into a flat spin no matter what you do. I've never successfully KE spun a Timber X. I can do it with the Turbo Timber on-demand but the Timber X simply won't do it for me, no matter what commands I give it.
Great video thanks for the info
Hope you will do a future vid & transcript and include a “pop top”, “blender”, and “knife edge spiral”. Kool vid, Jon. Thanks. 👍🏻
Will do! Though I don't think either of us have performed a knife edge spiral. I can't find any info on that maneuver anywhere.
@@TwoBrosRC maybe I misspoke myself. Perhaps it should be called a knife edge spin. I thought I had seen you perform this maneuver in a previous video. I can sometimes do it with my Crack Yak, but not consistently. I just think it’s a pretty maneuver. Thanks for your reply, Jon. Hope this clarifies things a bit.
@@rlbutterfield We did perform it here though lol
Just watched another channel pull about 5oz of weights that were embedded in the nose of the Ultimate. Would be interesting to see what that mod would do for its 3D flying.
You sure that wasn't us? ruclips.net/video/VbHAyJNWCZo/видео.html
Legends say that the tailwheel is still rolling its own path...
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Where do you have the cg on the ultimate for 3d
Right in the center of the top wing mount.
Did you use red electrical tape around the battery hatch? Looks really good.
Yup.
@@TwoBrosRC thanks. Mine is dinged up and that’s a great solution.
Would you advise throttle pinching over thumb?
It's all personal preference. We prefer thumbs
Excellent！ We can see the Radio stick so we can study stick control easily. But for Mode 1 flyer if you can use RealFlight9.5 , please show us Mode2 and Mode1 stick control ‼️
We're unfortunately not planning on changing our stick controls. We only fly Mode 2 setups.
If you use RealFlight9 ,
As you fly with Mode2 but Radio Animation can show Mode1 setting!!
I have one of those icy your prop looks a little bigger what size is it thanks Carl
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Jon:
MY ultimate has always 'felt' & acted super tail heavy since i bought it new. (Then got it back after a bunch of trade. Nobody wanted it cause it felt tail heavy 🤷.) Even using a 2700 4s smart pack all the way forward.
ANY suggestions is greatly appreciated!!!
Make sure the receiver isn't loose or the AS3X gyro isn't oriented incorrectly. I flew with a guy once who was convinced his Edge 540 was tail heavy until I checked it out for r him and noticed the gyro was correcting in the wrong directions.
Great job Jon! I miss 3D flying. I need a park flyer version though. Any suggestions?
The Ultimate is definitely a park flyer. It's less than a meter in wingspan. If you're interested, you can support the channel by picking it up here: amzn.to/3Jgydqm
The Timber X is also a good choice: amzn.to/3oKmpTC
@@TwoBrosRC Thanks Jon. Much appreciated.
I have a few of the EPP profile 3D planes that fly on 3s 450 packs. I picked them up second hand fairly cheap ($50 each with gear), and they are just about my favorite planes to fly. They are lightweight and strong, so even a fairly hard hit doesn't do much damage. Plus I don't have much cash in them, so I have very low nerves practicing 3D maneuvers near the ground!
Can't wait to practice some of the techniques in this video. Everything was well-explained!
@@TheFrenchPug Huge thanks for picking up a model from the affiliate links we use! The commission we receive for that sale alone nearly pays for half of one day's worth of video expenses (fuel, time, etc) for Tony to come out. That really helps - thank you so much!
@@notanotherrcchannel Can you provide any links to the kind of airplanes you have? Still looking for something like you're describing. Found a little bi-plane but it's $160 without any battery ($26 extra for 2).
This video is pretty good. What would make it better is having no music at all
You're welcome to make your own tutorial videos how you'd prefer to have them made. We prefer having music.
Do you ever fly any big balsa 3ds like skywing, extreme flight?
Nope. It's not quite in our budget just yet.
Jon this particular model is nose heavy and I read people had to remove some weights put in the front for learners to have a stable flight, did you lighten weights in the front for this ultimate model?
Yep. Look at our latest vid on it.
@@TwoBrosRC thank you!!
Thanks gor this! I'm looking to get a better transmitter to help up my game. What are your thoughts on the NX10?
I've heard mixed things about it, though I suspect a lot of issues would be resolved by reading the manual.
@@TwoBrosRC ix12 over nx10 then?
I enjoyed my IX12 after factory resetting it, but it's kinda slow and is also discontinued. I'd suggest the NX10. It'll continue being updated by Horizon for the foreseeable future. If you'd like to support the channel, you can pick it up via amzn.to/3Q8o6WN and we'll get a small amount of the sale price at no cost to you which will help us get equipment or new models to review and test.
@@TwoBrosRC I don't do Amazon. Is there any other way to throw you guys a little extra love?
You can donate directly via the vid description. We get 100% of that. If you use Super Thanks on any vid, we get 70% or so of what you send.
Yes, but you never mentioned why and when use switches ?
The only switches we use on this model are rates.
i can't tell if you're mode 1 or 2 ???
2
while this is great at explaining the different techniques, i noticed you fly mode 2.....would be great if you have someone who flies mode 1 for us "lefties" if you will....great vid, i learn a lot thanks
Thanks, but we don't fly in mode 1 as none of the people we fly with are left handed, nor do we known any left handed people who could create a tutorial. Sorry!
@@TwoBrosRC bummer!!!.....FYI...im left handed, fly mode 1 and can SORTA fly mode 2 as well (on a simulator!!)..i can also write on a blackboard either hand...don't even ask about ball sports as i swap and change to suit how it feels lol.....been flying 32 years. i would just like to be able to hover and harrier my 30cc ultra stick and do a few other stunts too...i know all the basics etc of standard pattern type manoeuvres, but 3D is just that bit more appealing
Asum man
He's done that before
???
Ok, don't be fooled. Performing some of the maneuveres repeatable and tight might take tens of hours up to several hundred in the simulator.
Who's fooling anyone? Anything we're doing here can be done with practice. Simulators work great for getting stick time in, but nothing beats real-world experience.
@@TwoBrosRC Anything everywhere can be done with practice. But kicking a ball straight or putting it in the upper corners of a goal 9/10 is miles away from eachother. You never mention once how difficult some of this stuff is. People will just get discouraged if no one tell's them.
OK
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better rather R/C boat / car / truck on the ground-water...
not R/C airplane
We'd rather fly. It's way more fun.
Go straight, backwards, left or right with car,truck,boat,TANK....go ANYWHERE with a plane :) gravity isn't a fun master
@@holdfastrc
hi H...
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F-35 / helicopter / V-22 can go different ways
@bestamerica you didn't mention those originally. You said car, truck, boat...ground or water operation. A V22 IS technically an airplane because it "takes off" with rotors tilted. It replaced my beloved C2A greyhound that I worked on as a mechanic in the navy. Anything in the sky by means of flight has far more range of motion that something on the ground or especially on water. Rc planes = master race. Kinda like pc gaming lol