The $1500 Gaming Chair. Worth the Upgrade? | Herman Miller x Logitech Embody Office Chair
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2020
- I was already a fan of the original Herman Miller Embody chair. So when this HM x Logitech gaming collaboration came out, I had to test it out for myself and see whether it lives up to the hype.
Herman Miller x Logitech Gaming Office Chair
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*One Month Later* Hmm... A couple things off the top of my head. 1) The Back Rest. I still feel like the back rest is stiffer/less flexible than the original one but I don't know if that's a universal change or something that softens with time. I've gotten used to the extra padding in the center spine area. The lumbar area is still a "small" source of pain for me in this chair but that's no different from my experience with the original. I still think that's the biggest potential dealbreaker for some since you can't move it higher/lower based the curve of your back. 2) Noise: This new chair doesn't make the same squeaking noise that my original Embody had made. According to HM, they fixed that squeaking noise on all Embodys and that this change was implemented around 2019. So it's possible there were some other minor revision changes since then that affect all Embodys. But... keep in mind that this chair will and does still have some mechanical/plastic/rubbing noises, which I think is unavoidable with such a flexible chair. 3) The Seat: It still feels kind of lumpy with that extra foam cushion and grooves in the seat. I think it will probably be more noticeable if you have longer legs and need to extend the seat pan out. But I don't think it's a deal breaker. 4) Headrest or Upper Neckrest. I wish there was an option to have a headrest on this chair. Lounging to some shows or playing console games would have been nicer with a headrest.
Thanks for the update, it's invaluable!
Nice review! I got mine about a week ago. I was wondering if you feel the seat is different than the original. I feel like the extra padding and lump on the seat is giving me some pressure on my thigh. If you felt the same way, did it go away after weeks of use? I also use it at home and wear shorts like you.
If you had to choose between the original or logitech version regardless of price which would you go for? What's ultimately more comfortable for long sitting, that's all I need to know so I don't have to buy both lol
@@ROllieHorne Sit in both and choose. TBH, the update looks like nothing more than an attempt to market a gaming chair.
@@MichaelJones-ff9gb ideally I would if I could. Just not sure if I'll be able to find both locally to try
watching this so intently with absolutely no intention of buying.
I used to say the same lol
Im thinking about it
@ its worth the wait. I ordered mine (customized) and it took almost 3 months. when I ordered back in may
HRWells but does it come with a comforting voice narration?
@@hrwells9698 does the chair hurt your butt be honest please ?
I was chairless .So I asked my parents to buy me this chair. Now I am Chairless and homeless.
lmfaooo
ROFL
This guy hands down makes the best chair reviews
I've been looking for a review of this chair with exactly the information you so succinctly laid out. Thanks for making this video - it's been genuinely helpful.
I'm glad to say the issue brought up at 3:28 has been fixed! I got mine a week ago, and the foam has been extended all the way down the length of the seat bottom.
I'm thinking about ordering one myself, are you liking yours so far?
Finally got mine after a couple months of waiting and I have zero regrets. This thing is amazing.
I’m looking to get one. Any second thoughts after a year of use?
Best chair review! Thank you for your time, effort and attention to detail. This was extremely helpful
Thank you for the video! You've answered a lot of the questions I've had about the differences between the gaming & original versions of the Embody.
Just wanted to say you've inspired my creation processes here on RUclips and I love your channel to death! Thank you for what you do!
i was waiting for someone to make this comparison. amazing and very detailed review thx !
The video ive been waiting for! Thanks!
Thank you so much! I have been waiting for someone to legitimately compare the new Logitech version to the standard Embody.
Glad to see you back!
just got mine today, my first high end chair. My eyes have been opened and my life has been changed.
(I did manage to try on in person before I bought it)
This review was awesome. Much needed information for consumers. Thanks!
Best review for this chair on RUclips! Thanks.
Love these videos! I don't even need a new chair but watched the video in full
Really appreciate your thoughts on this! I literally ordered the Aeron yesterday, and I'm wishing I would have at least considered one of these Embody chairs. Cheers!
Didn't expect to see this
i returned my aeron remastered yesterday and now waiting for the logitech embody. not sure why, but i just expected more from the aeron. i just could not sit long enough comfortably on the aeron (3 hours max)
I have both chairs (aeron and normal embody). Both are great, but it really depends what you like in your chair. Aeron is great if you like to lean/rock back on your chair, which I like and you can get a great aftermarket headrest (atlas) another huge plus for me. So this is my main chair, aeron with headrest. If you just like sitting in upright position without headrest, then it doesn't get better than embody (most comfortable normal sitting position chair). But honestly you can't go wrong with either one.
herman miller has an amazing return policy, just saying
@@Kjin3 That makes me feel better! I ordered an Aeron in mineral color last week. I was having second thoughts on the order, wondering if I needed to go with the Embody. However, I'm quite heavier than the video reviewer... I think the flexible back may give me some issue, and I love rocking back on my chair :) Good comment!
Dude your channel blew up so much! Keep up the great content and cinematography.
Your vids are so useful and thank you very mucho for putting subtitles 🙏
I´ve always been hesitant when it came to buying an expensive chair until recently when I finally bought one. A friend of mine recommended me a local company here in the Czech Republic called Therapia and I gave it a shot. I went to their store and I was surprised at how everything went there. They asked questions like: how long do you sit behind your PC, what´s your weight, what´s your height, how high is the PC, do you have any medical conditions, etc... After like 20 minutes of talking, they showed me two different models, to try them out, and honestly? I was amazed. I told them that I´d love to have one of them, so one of the employees took me to their office and showed me all the different customization options for that specific chair. You can choose different fabrics throughout the whole chair, different stitching, different color combinations of that whole setup, different headrest, and even different set of wheels. The whole chair cost almost $1.400, but it´s been the best chair and pretty much the best investment I´ve ever did.
I bought this chair, now I can sit very comfortably after my kidney operation.
That’s awesome to hear! I actually have some minor scars on my kidney area from an operation many years ago, and I’m looking into getting this chair to try to help avoid some pain in that area. Did you go with the Logitech or the regular one?
Awesome review on the chair. Very detailed. :)
Straight to the point, I love it
glad you compared the two , most reviewers were writing them off as the same.
Great review, the best that I have seen so far on this chair. Thanks so much ....... liked and subscribed ........ ;-)
Thanks for the comparison!
Great detail in your review
I WAITED MY WHOLE LIFE FOR A NEW DAVID VIDEO
Great review
When a chair cost more than your whole setup
Any setup will become nearly worthless in 4 - 5 years, the chair won't.
life long back pain...costs millions in opportunity costs
ambiva it’ll definitely lower in price significantly
That embody will hold its value way better than a 2080Ti.
@@SmokyMountainsHauling i feel dat feel, bro.
It looks so comfy and supportive 😭
Continue!!!!!!!!!!!
Wish you the best!!
Best reviews to me
don't change a thing with your reviews, they are perfect
he’s back!!
A Must Have!
I've been looking forward to and hoping you'd review this chair. I wonder, as I can't recall--did you ever try the Aeron? I'm trying to decide between then two.
Hey David! I came across your video on what to keep in mind while buying chairs. I really love the content you put. I was wondering if you could review on some steelcase office chairs. I really like how they look but idk how it feels to sit and how comfy they are overall. I would appreciate it. Thanks!
Nice. Enjoyed your video.
Great video. And you're right, you can get an original Embody from a dealer for around $1100 including tax and shipping in Sync fabric.
You have a beautiful filming style
Waiting for a video on your white PC tower specs. Thanks. Nice channel.
Love your reviews! You sold me on the original Embody which I currently enjoy
id love to see an aeron review and how you'd compare it to the embody
Finally a chair review that doesn't just shower praise on the sponsored chair.
It isn't a sponsored chair. A sponsorship is literally an ad, of course a sponsored chair would be showered with praise. If this was a sponsored video, you can be sure it would have been, but to my knowledge David has never done a sponsored video.
Hello David, thanks for another amazing video! Would love to see a video wherein you explain more about your work, how you manage savings etc so that we get some inspiration on how to finally put together our dream setup. Really inspired by your minimalist tech lifestyle.
This guy is going to have the healthiest spine in the world
No, not at all, I think :) This chair doesn't really bring much (if anything) to what standard office chairs have been giving us for years.
Moreover it has serious flaws, which make it not really ergonomic:
No headrest (so constant reclining will damage your thoracic spine) and pretty small heap angle.
BTW: Please notice that author is pretty young and has a good posture :) But be sure that years of sitting in such chair (not only in Embody, but in all similar chairs too) will damage his spine seriously.
Don't take my word for it, but learn how the human's spine really works :)
@@greg4506 so what is the best chair for u?
@@deivisony he sits in a mahogany wooden stool and uses his huge lat muscles as back support
@@Dog3D i've seen the Edge gx1 i think it's called and it has backrest. Do you think it's Better than this?
@@greg4506 headrsst is not that healthy
Damn. That monitor tho i wish for monitor like that. Best chair review.
You have Ollin and HX Monitor arm. I like both of them!
just buy this one and really wanted to know what i miss. My choice was mainly because of the price (cheaper to the gaming version) Thank you!
i had an embody earlier this summer. didn't like it so i sold it. the arm adjustments are more primitive than the ones on the steelcase leap. the base of the chair felt like the steelcase leap. i felt that the skeleton on the back just wasn't supporting me in the way i wanted to. it's really narrow and the whole time i just really wanted to move my back across the back rest to a different area, but there's just no space to move your back with the back rest being so narrow. to me, it looks really futuristic and touts some really nice design, but functionally, it wasn't too far off from a pretty common task chair.
I'm impressed the ergotron arm can hold the 48 inch LG OLED
I am more impressed by that amazing screen you have what model is that monitor ?
David, WHERRRREEEE HAVE YOU BEEEEENNN
Review the Cosm next please!
The chair even has a special feature it can generate its own ESD and shock you when you touch metal!
Being 5'7 140lbs, I appreciate this review lol. I am VERY close to ordering. Cost is the only thing holding me back atm
2:00 I didn't know you also played ring fit adventure
nice video! just wondering, what monitor do you have? keep up the great work :)
Thanks for the review and update David. I've seen at least 5 other reviews on HM's own webpage for this where they complained about the new seat foam abruptly "cutting off". I collated and sent these to HM in the hope they rectify this. One dude just bought some extra foam himself and slipped it in the space there to pad it out more, so at least it's semi-fixable.
Shame they didn't improve the arms as this was one of the other major complaints. I hope they come out with better versions one day as apparently, they're detachable? Could easily be upgraded.
I've not seen any complaints about the new back foam being only along the spine though, a tad concerning as I'm the EXACT same height / weight as you. I did read many reviews of the previous embody though where people complained the plastic "arms" in the back were digging into them. I assume that's not as bad now? I'm hoping your complaints about the back were just because you were able to compare with the original Embody, (I've currently used neither).
I'm looking for a new chair myself and really considering this one. They HAVE to come out with some alternate colour options though as that blue is fooking horrible and my missus has explitly forbidden it, as it doesn't match anything in our house. If they do come out with alternate colours though (Dark red for me, purple for her), she'll be wanting one, too as her DX Racer is predictably falling to bits in it's 3rd year.
A little concerning it's still a "hmm". Would definitely appreciate some updates as you get on and "break in" this chair. Do you think it would be great for someone (your height and weight) who's never tried the previous embody, and therefore doesn't know the difference? I'm currently sitting in an old version of one of these lol, with a Bonmedico bum and back cushion as my arse has ground a hole through the padding over the last 8 years: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004P8J1A8
As to the headrest, they say you don't need one, but it would still be nice to have the option. They should have made the "Flap" bit at the back on a hinge, where you can flip it up and rest your head on that!
UPDATE: In the UK - Black version of this chair, they've fixed the foam issue! It extends all the way to the end. Comparison: imgur.com/a/TQkaKZP
@@BobT36 Many thanks for this. Do you know if they fixed it only on the black version or did they also fix it on the black/blue version?
@@bilaltahir9978 I only have the black one, however I believe they fixed it for the blue, too.
Still going strong and happy with mine. Back feels really good, no fatigue.
@@BobT36 that's great to hear. Do you find that you miss the headrest? And do you still recommend this chair as the best on the market?
@@bilaltahir9978 I'd say I miss it when REALLY wanting to recline and watch something. But for general work, gaming and youtubing it's not a huge issue, and you don't "need" it.
Atlas headrests are making one for it though so I'll certainly buy when available.
I've only really tried the big "Executive" "armchair on a pedestal" types, and a DXRacer Valkyrie (GF's) and DXRacer King. This blows all 3 out of the water. The price is expensive but considering how long most "gaming" chairs last nowadays and considering the 10-year warranty, you're just paying the same you would anyway but upfront, that's all.
Well worth it for a healthy back. In the UK at least you can return within 2 weeks if you don't like it, so worth a try. Both me and the GF are happy with our Embodies, but not everyone gets on with them well (heard super tall people don't really like em).
I was focusing on that big screen, not the chair! 😂😂
So amazing 😀
At work I sit on a Recaro Cammander (3800€) and I wanted to get about the same look and feel for my "Office" at home.
I found a "clone" from HJH Office which "only" costs 1200€ and damn is it a nice chair. I really like the route they went on this one here though with the layered supports - I am afraid that the foam-cushion will give way over the years. Would I have known of this type of chair I maybe would have choosen it instead.
I have the same chair. I bought it brand new a week ago and I’ve been trying to find flaws in the chair but I have yet to find something that would give me something to really complain about. I think the chair is well built. I purchased this chair for $1100 shipped to my door brand new. I couldn’t give up the opportunity to own this chair for $500 less.
WHere did you find it for cheaper
yeah whereeee??
I bought my gaming embody today as well for 1200€. It just happens that the price goes down for no reason. I was lucky cuz I stopped checking for chairs for 2 months now but something told me to check it's price again today
Blue makes the chair look much nicer to look at.
Got worried about you, glad to see you back!
looks good
What laptop mount is that you're using?
For the regular Embody would you recommend the Sync or Balance Fabric? Which did you like better?
This just made it harder for me to choose this or the original. Which did you end up preferring now that some time has passed?
Deals on the non gaming version are out there. I picked up a gently used for $940. Dont need the gaming accents for $560!
David, Thanks for spending time on a thorough review. I think you said (on the prevs. model) the chair made noise from the back supports is this so on this chair? So the sidearm supports do seem "clunky" also very cheap looking, especially when extended. For $1,500 usd that is a major misstep imo.
So HM told me they "fixed" this on all Embodys sometime in 2019. I can say that mine doesn't make as much noise as the original, but I say that with caution. This chair will always have some sort mechanical/plastic/rubbing noise. I would say it's avoidable with such a flexible chair.
Good video
Got it for 5 years, sitting on it now, best I ever had. Chair for life. Btw what is a gaming chair? Is there even such thing?
Hi David,
I recently purchased an Embody regular with balance fabric, produced in August 2020.
The chair was ordered before the Logitech gaming model was released.
With the backrest everything ok, but the seat is stiff! I feel my feet asleep, it's probably the pixelated structure below and above all the seat edge.
I ask you: do you think it would be possible to put an additional foam under the balance fabric?
How thick is the foam under the logitech model?
Considering your experience, do you prefer the balance fabric or the Logitech fabric?
I'm waiting for your advices.
Thanks
nice cable management
I bought the chair!
only problem i have the same 0.47 Kd....
Thank you for the review. The old table was much nicer looking. Whats the benefits of the new one, why got rid of the old (wooden looking) one ?
What desk is that? great review
I use the cougar gaming chair ❤️
Thanks for this, looks like I’ll be keeping the original, that stiff back support is a deal breaker.
Cool review! What monitor do you have?
I came from the channel Short Circuit... They did a 15 min video and couldn't explain half the stuff you said... Not criticizing but i always expect some proffesionality when it comes to tech related stuff... Instantly subscribed ! 😉
That channel is not a review channel... it is a sister channel to linustechtips. It's part of a larger group of channels with the one I mentioned being the big daddy of them all. They don't ever do reviews on that channel. It's more of a user reaction kind of channel.
What the heck is that monitor? Love it lol
im sitting on a 20Bucks wood chair from ikea since 5 years and watching a video about 1300 Bucks chair i never buy lmao
Have you ever tried the Haworth Fern? I see very little reviews of it compared to the Herman Miller chairs, but seems like a good alternative to the Embody.
Hi, do you mind to share your setup?
Really like this monitor and your speakers. :)
Could u review the autotomus ergochair ?
If you have the money, it seems nice. I’ll stick with refurb/used/open box Steelcase and HM
Really love what you wear in the video.
They need to release this chair in Australia ffs !!!
Chair looks cool but the Steelcase Gesture is a better pick imho...only thing missing is a mesh customization option
Now that you have the LG CX for more time, do you have experienced any burn in or other problems?
Which mouse pad do you use? Looks awesome and perfectly sized for mouse + small apple keyboard
David! Glad to see you back at it! I'm gonna be trying to buy the ikea markus rn cause I just graduated and got a job, but it's out of stock. Anything else you'd recommend in the meantime or over it, thats at a similar price?
Get the jarvfjället
Amazing
mesh armchairs with neck support are the best for me
I love the monitor. Which model is it?
What monitor are you using? I really like it.