Hey I think the cooling gel actually works. In your test you concluded that it did *not* work because the gaming backrest was warmer than the non-gaming, but this actually means the chair is conducting heat away from your body faster than non-gaming. Copper is a highly conductive metal with a low specific heat so it “feels” colder to the touch even when it’s at the same temperature as a normal cloth material. The reason it feels colder is because it conducts heat away from your skin efficiently. It’s the same principle behind putting an ice cube on a metal block vs an ice cube on a book. Both the book and the metal block are the same temperature, but the ice will melt immediately on the metal and not the book. The gaming embody getting measured at a temperature closer to your body temperature after 30 mins actually suggests that the copper cooling gel does work, even if it’s marginal.
Looking to buy one within the next couple of weeks. But I am from Denmark (EU)... Is it possible for you to get an affiliate link from their DK site? I believe it's called "Dkgaming.hermanmiller (...)" ❤, Dan
The gaming embody + atlas headrest have been some of my best purchases of all time. I don't see myself using a different chair until this one collapses out of warranty. I went from those crappy racing chairs to this and it's just a night and day difference.
I've been using an Embody for 10 years or more. The hydraulic leaked and I replaced it for $100-$200. One of the armrests is splitting on the seam but it's not bad and you can get replacements. The cushion wears down and you feel the parts underneath a bit more. It's still my favorite chair.
I'm currently trying to talk myself into buying a gaming embody (which will involve taking on some creditcard debt for a couple of months lol)and your comment is convincing me to go for it
@@MVIVN Hey, I'm just some dude on the internet, so feel free to tell me to go eff off, but I really don't recommend you take on CC debt for this! CC debt is the worst with crazy high interest, and you never know what'll happen between now and when you finish paying off the chair (if you're not able to make payment, you'll be taking on more debt and it'll hurt your credit score)! If you absolutely need a good ergonomic chair, there are a lot of solid chairs out there for cheaper and I'm putting out a video today (12PM est) about an alternative way to go about buying an ergonomic chair that can save you some money! If you need any advice, feel free to reach out! Would be happy to help...especially if it means not seeing you go into credit card debt over a chair!!!
Regarding thermals: 1. It's not a heat gun, it's a thermal camera 2. The copper-infused foam (not gel) wouldn't be cooler itself - it would, if it works, pull the heat from your body quicker. So if the seating area is warmer after sitting in, it could be a sign of it working properly. You would need to measure body temperature of the affected areas too to conclude tho'. So if you really wanna test it, you need to strip down to your boxers, sit in the Embody for x amount of time, get up, and record yourself and the chair with a thermal camera. Then wait for your body and the chair to reach equilibrium and repeat a couple of times. Then do the same for the Embody Gaming and compare results. That way you can conclusively tell whether the chair effectively cools you or not.
why stop at boxers ;-) And thanks for your input!! Maybe one day when I get some staff members around here (who also don't see as stripping down as workplace misconduct 😂)
@@Ahnestly Ay, I’ll leave that up to you. You could start an OnlyChairs. 🤷🏼♂️ But you could blur some areas a bit. The most important part is of course the rear of the legs and the back - and the butt. Luckily it’s limited how much is visible in infrared, so maybe you wouldn’t feel super exposed. 😅
Never thought about this.. makes complete sense. Odd to type this out but trapped heat in the seating area can be a big deal for males who want to procreate.. average sperm counts have gone down over the last few decades. Many believe it's due to more sitting at computer desks.
I have multiple embodys and one gaming embody. It is more cushy and nearly everyone agrees whos been in my studio, but I got some folks here in the comments saying they think otherwise!
ive had the chair for 3 years, i love it..... just got the atlas headrest in and damn its perfect. the headrest is spot on. the complaints of the noise from the chair? i dont understand what youre talking about? in the 3 years i have used it every day, not once have i ever "heard" anything?
just bought my gaming HM embody comparing it to the regular gaming body (used) can definitely say yes it is very comfortable but you got to take into consideration this is to help with posture and it doesn't come with a headrest nor a leg rest like a typical gaming racing chair does but I will say the regular embody did feel a bit rougher and cheaper comparing it to the gaming version but one thing to also take into consideration is that if you buy it used and some parts look bad you aren't granted a 12 warranty for the chair but this is just my hot take obviously you can buy a headrest and a leg rest for this but these things are optional also... Thank you Ahnestly also for showing me everything about this chair that I wouldn't have known on the chair like functions and other cool stuff like buying guides and other alternatives if we cant afford high end pricey chairs which I wouldn't have known of :)
I did a ton of research and besides looks, most people seem to like the regular embody more. They say the back is too stiff on the gaming snd also there’s some spine padding that feels uncomfortable. Also like you said, the noise is annoying
So odd! I didn't even say anything and everyone instantly shouted "yeah the gaming one is significantly better". The top of the shoulder rest killed it for the taller guys (6' + guys), and the cushion sealed the deal for the shorter folks
The cost is probably because of higher density foam. A softer foam might feel better at first, but I wonder how well it hold up overtime. Office chairs last quite a long time as in decades of use.
My gaming Embody is 2 years old, and based on people's comments, it seems like my foam has compressed a bit (people said when testing back to back with a new one, they could feel the panels on the back more). And even compressed, everyone still found it more comfy than a nearly new non gaming Embody!
Bro, the FLIR for your phone is only like 200.00 and would have saved you a few bucks. Maybe do a few home energy audits to pay for it lol. I'm subbed but I'll make sure you get a fat like or two.
@@venom5809 It's better if you need to use your phone, the reason the standalone device is so large is because it's got a lot of electronics/sensors that are needed but happen to already exist on phones- especially the screen. Makes it pretty easy to cut the price down and get the same or better quality, that said, I've used both and there is no real difference other than ease of use where the standalone shines. Just pull it out and go.
I also have to tell you that this is the most comprehensive comparison on youtube at the moment. When i did my shopping last year for this chair, i had to dig through endless dated reddit threads for my answers. This video will help a LOT of people.
Tried out both the gaming and regular embody, and prefer the regular embody (Both 2023 models). No squeaking when moving and the backrest forms itself better to my back. Apart from that they basically feel the same.
I prefer the regular embody. While I will concede the seat on the gaming is a little more comfortable, I vastly prefer the back of the regular. I didnt really like the padded strip on the gaming embody. It came out feeling very odd to me. The regular embody feels like leaning back into a hammock. For size reference, I'm 6'4" and 325 pounds.
I've never tried the gaming chair, but I couldn't be more pleased with the regular variety I got. It's perfectly quiet, on top of being incredibly comfortable and supportive. I'm confident I made the right choice.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, all! I was surprised at how quickly all my friends decided on the gaming Embody over the regular one. I'm wondering if with the lumbar changes, if HM hasn't made other changes to the non-gaming models? Mine feels much more skeletony compared to the gaming!
Got one last week cause of your videos, ordered the headrest as well, big thank you for helping me, so far this chair is a blessing even with the crazy price tag
To give a different perspective: As a pretty tall person myself (200 cm/ 6'5 ft), I don't have any issues with the OG Embodys (2023) back shape at the top. It doesn't even get uncomfortable when I adjust the back fit tention to the maximum, which I never do during normal use. Just some anecdotal evidence, but maybe it helps someone to decide :) Great content als always.
Thanks for your comment ! I am a Little smaller than you about 6.4 193cm. Could you tell me a little more about your chair ? How is the seating height especially. That would interest me a lot! Thank you in advance
@@GbproofaccountTheMaster Despite having long legs even for my height, I don't even use the highest possible seat position of the Embody, so it shouldn't be an issue for you I guess. Only the seat depth has to be maxed out, but then it's pretty great. I tried the Haworth Fern as well since it has a comparable and very nice backrest, but the seat pan is not ideal for taller persons. I am very happy with the Embody, try it for yourself if you get the chance 👍🏼
@@niko_nikitiadis thank you for your reply !! I appreciate it a lot. I unfortunately can’t try the Herman miller chairs out :( I tried and requested it at several dealers but they only accept corporate clients… Interesting that you don’t even use the highest seating height of the chair ! I even thought the highest one wouldn’t be enough. I will order the original embody and give it a shot :)
I can actually answer the question at ~ 1:10 mark about pricing: The classic embody has a higher selection of colorways, materials, and casters, so they construct them upon order. The gaming embody has only four options that are pre-built, so they just pull your selection off the shelf. It's not the cost of the materials, it's more of the time/customization (and possibly the knowledge that they can eek out a bit more cost from businesses buying non-gaming Embody chairs).
Great comparison video! I tried the two of them at a HM store last year and preferred the non-gaming. I found the ridges on the backrest to be uncomfortable on the gaming version. They felt pretty similar other than that.
Your commented reminded me that I commented that I could feel the ridges when I first got the gaming Embody, but they're virtually non-feelable now. I think that might be a result of breaking in the chair...sigh...maybe I'll buy a new gaming Embody to compare...after I make back the money spent on this video 😂😅
The headrest changes everything for me, went from regretting the purchase to: Yay I like my expensive chair! lol. The squeaking is definitively loud on my gaming Embody
How tall are you? And did you notice a posture difference from before and after using the headrest? Like it made you able to sit differently upright or anything?
@@thedumbstuff4170 I'm 5' 7", it definitively changed my posture, but I sit in a million different ways so it's hard to say how it changed it exactly. I mostly use it as a neck support more so than head support, unless I'm really leaning back. I'll warn people that all these ergo chairs, embody included, make you sit healthier, but won't be the ultimate comfort. The Embody gaming has been the least 'weird' feeling to me in the ergo space, but it'll never FEEL comfortable like a SecretLabs style chair or even a cushy fabric chair might.
I'm surprised you say that cos I assumed I would be buying the headrest, but I've found that even when reclined to the second last tilt limit position I find it keeps my head pretty upright naturally. Maybe if you're in the most reclined position a lot? Maybe you also have the backrest fully loosened and tension loosened too?
I own regular embody for year and a half, no problem whatsoever. But after watching this video, the problem arise. Now I want the gaming one. 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
I have been waiting on my tax return to buy the gaming embody. Yesterday it was $1845. Today it is $1995. What the heck. Do the prices fluctuate often? That's a big jump in the price.
I bought the gaming embody last November, hands down the best work from home office chair. I did decide to purchase the headrest a week ago cause it would be nice to have my neck/head supported to fully relax when I lean back. It is expensive but I figure it’s an investment since I’m going to spending years sitting in this chair 8hrs a day.. it’s totally worth it! I hope HM never discontinues the gaming embody
Excellent comparison. I've been considering this purchase for over a year and your videos helped a lot. I'm buying one this week. Going with the regular embody just for the custom color configurations. I'll be sure to use your link. Thanks bro!
Hey this is a really good review and I have a huge question, I have a herniated disc in my lower back, are either of these chair suitable for long periods with my condition?
Hey! I’m always hesitant to answer these questions since I am not a medical professional. My general thought is that the higher end chair brands may have given more thought to this issue than cheaper chair companies. But you can’t know unless you try it as well. If you’re ok with paying a reshipping fee ($50ish), then you could try the embody out and see if it’s a good fit. Another possible chair to look at would be the Anthros chair! Hope this helps and really hoping you find a good chair for your needs!
The reason why the Gaming embody was hotter when you left the seat IS because the heat absorbed your body heat. The reason why the one without the cooling mechanism in was cooler, was because it insulated your body head instead of absorbing it. That's how heat works.
A better way to test the cooling mechanism, would have been to use warm silicone place that on the chair, measure the temperature before and after, and how quickly it cooled to a chosen temperature.
Say what you will, that (and my) Nightfall Embody is gorgeous. I got mine in the black frame but man that white is crisp too. I do intend to throw some memory foam under my seat, which is extremely easy to do. The back might be a little more tricky though. Fortunately, I also have an Atlas headrest which mitigates a majority of the aggressiveness on the shoulders.
Made a purchase of the Logitech Embody Gaming Chair. Your links did not work for the Black/Cyan color that I wanted and also went to UK rather than US. Wrote them a letter to credit you and your channel for the purchase. Thanks for your reviews. Very helpful to define how I sit and what chair may work best for me. Also liked your recommendation for the roller blade wheels from Amazon and headrest from Atlas.
Hey!! Thank you for doing that! They said they're going to launch a UK affiliate program soon, so I asked if I could join it. They asked for my reach/demographics, so things like this help! Really appreciate it!
Sitting in my Embody right now, like I said before some days I love it, some days I don't. Yesterday it felt great, today meh. Still love how it looks so I will keep it in the house but overall I think my V1 Leap is more comfortable and I tried a V2 Leap with the bigger back and headrest and that feels even nicer. I am going to get this time instead an Ekornes office chair or Gunlocke Washington. On a sidenote I just got a similar thermal camera, it's awesome for finding poorly insulated spots in the house.
I did not even think about all the ways I could use this thermal camera...THIS IS BRILLIANT! My house does a terrible job insulating itself, and this is awesome! Thank you!!!
@@Ahnestly It's seriously great at finding poorly insulated areas as well as any water leaks etc. Get a good moisture meter too. Topdon makes nice stuff but I went with Flir, the industry leader for thermal cameras. Paid about the same too.
@@Ahnestly If there is water it will show up as purple. If you think maybe the wall got wet inside then you just press the moisture meter against the drywall and it will tell you if it’s definitely wet or not. If your friends and family are buying a house not bad to take these with them and see for themselves if there are any issues.
Bless. We’ve needed a comprehensive comparison video like this with a newer regular Embody very badly in the community, and you delivered! It sounds like I may have made a mistake buying the regular Embody instead of the gaming one a year ago, given this comparison. But to be fair, I think it was the correct decision given the information I had at the time. The biggest factors being the noise, hearing that the foam in the backrest on the gaming one was uneven, and hearing that there were more quality control issues with the gaming one due to it being mass-produced (whereas the regulars are usually custom-made, hence the higher price). But it sounds like based off your review here that the foam in the backrest may not be an issue, and that the quality control observation may have been worth risking (worst case scenario, you return the chair for another one). And on the subreddit I’m even hearing that the noise may not be an issue anymore on the newer gaming Embodies, based off of what some people who bought ones recently are saying.
Same here on Logi vs regular Embody. The lack of a location with showroom to try all the different chairs really hurt giving the Logi model a shot. I have been thinking of lifting the seat cover off and adding another thin layer of foam to my Embody.
I wasnt even looking to buy a new chair and I saw this vid and also the black friday deal not knowing anything about HM and just skipped to the final thoughts. I guess I now own one. I used your link, you enabler...
One of us...one of us...now go, and bring your friends to me. HAHA yooo seriously though, let me know how you like it!!! (Also, thank you SO MUCH for using my link. Really helps the channel a LOT.) Also, if it helps, the reason why I have so many people come through my studio is because one guy I know bought one, and he loved it so much, he started telling all his friends, who all started hitting me up asking if they could test them. So far, not a single person has walked out without thinking the Gaming Embody was the best chair.
First of all, thanks for the effort you put into these videos! I already commented on one of your other videos that I ended up getting an Embody like two weeks ago. Would probably have gone for a gaming one if it was possible but it's not here in Norway. I also went for the Rythm fabric instead of the Sync, simply due to the pricing here, it was quite a bit cheaper. According to HM's own site though it seems like they're very similar, but hey I have no idea. I do like the chair, but I'm still getting used to it, trying to figure out the "perfect" settings for me.
Great video! In your recent Fractal Refine video you commented on its comfort for users who sit on their leg and/or cross-legged. Could you please comment on the same for the Embody? Often I like to sit with my foot resting on the seat (tucked under the other foot), so chairs with sculpted seats (like the Refine, Aeron and similar) are a no-go for me. How does the Embody fare in this regard? Sorry to bother you, but I have nobody else to ask. Thanks for your input!
@Ahnestly Thank you for the fantastic content. Does the Gaming Embody come with hard floor castors as standard? I intend to use mine on hard wood floor. I know hard floor castors required extra payment previously.
Thanks @Ahnestly. Good vid, hard choice now, especiallly after this good comparaison. 2 questions if i can. - Do you think the padded strip on the gaming embody the Gaming Embody can be uncomfortable on a small personn (i'm approximately 5' 9)? - what about the resistance when you lean back ? which one is the least hard? i'm approximately 143 lbs (don't want to feel like uncomfortable or figting to keep a good position)
Interesting. I own one of each of these chairs and I prefer the Non gaming chair. Primarily because i prefer less cushioning on the non gaming chair. I have had the non gamer for about 10 years and I love it. Overall, these are the best chairs I have found. i can be in either one all day and not have back or butt pain.
For me the Aeron was better. I have both Gaming Embody and Aeron. Aeron is for me more confortable and better in back support. But each person has different body. So, test both.
Some people oil the joints of the gaming embody or do minor mods that a novice can do to reduce the noise (minor mods on a similar level to installing the Atlas headrest such as using different types of screws in certain areas or tightening them more than what Herman Miller does out of the factory because I read that is a problem too and there are also mods like lightly sanding a spot which is almost hidden to the naked eye from most angles so there is less plastic scraping each other but the sanding job is hidden from view from above)
I just got mine yesterday, so far my real complaint about the chair is the lack of adjustability with the armrest. Also, when you tilt back with the chair it aims the armrest at an angle which I find uncomfortable. I just ordered some pads for the armrest and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on the headrest. Also does the seat break in a bit over time? I find its a little bit hard on the butt IMO a chair that cost me 2200$ should have 4 D armrests Just ordered the headrest 😂😂
LOL nice. Headrest is gamechanger IMHO. And yeah, I think people are reporting the gaming ridges aren't comfortable. It reminded me of when I first got the gaming Embody - I felt them a lot more. But now, I barely feel them. I think that's the result of me breaking in the chair
@@Ahnestly I absolutely love the chair even with its faults, I had bought a Fern which was also a great chair but decided to return it to buy the chair I REALLY wanted. I wonder how long it will take to get the headrest... it was crazy expensive in Canada clocking in at 283$
Hey @Ahnestly! Do you know what kind of casters come with the Gaming version? Their own website does not mention this. I cant find it anywhere. The regular Embody has three caster choices, so I am wondering which of those come with the Gaming version.
I have heard some taller folks have experienced pain from this chair as it causes their shoulders to roll forward. Is this a tall person centric issue? I haven't seen much of a work-around except placing a towel in the center. I'm 6'3 myself so that is a concern as I almost financed one of these.
I genuinely wonder if Logitech's logo being on the gaming embody has something to do with the price. Like maybe they're covering some of the manufacturer's costs and negotiated the price? Like it's cheaper in that regard too, so people are going to be more inclined to purchase the gaming version and it's advertising for logitech.
I just placed an order for the regular embody in the sync fabric a few days ago, I'm excited to see when it comes in and to rewatch this video to do a comparison of my own. Awesome video!
Between working from home full time and being an avid gamer, i finally decided to invest in a good chair. Ordered the Gaming Embody last night to take advantage of the sale. It'll be here Sunday. Can't wait. And although very backordered, I also ordered the Atlas headrest to go with it. Thanks for the review. Definitely feeling like I made the right decision.
Great review, but did I miss the armrests review section? I'm interested in the cushioning on the armrests and how they compare to something like a Steelcase Leap v2.
Just ordered the gaming embody, using your link. I have learned good furniture makes a huge difference in health and quality of life, so I'm sure this investment will payoff for my music studio. Thanks for the comprehensive videos. They really helped me decide.
Hey! I really REALLY appreciate it! I haven't seen anything come through on my end...would you be able to send me an email at ahntouragemedia@gmail.com? If not, no big deal, but trying to see if my links are being weird. Thanks!!
I’m torn on gaming but can t decide on cyan or black. What’s everyone’s view? I liked the special edition embody but couldn’t justify extra money. I’m thinking black.
Black on black is smexy! I personally wanted to get the Amethyst or Galaxy, but bought this one instead for this video 😂 If you do end up picking up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a lot!!!
Hey Dan, picked up the Gaming Embody based off the video you made and it's been a great chair for the last 2 weeks I've had it. I recently just heard back from my Herman Miller AD and they are offering the Office Embody with Sync Fabric and Titanium base for 1840CAD versus the 2268CAD on HM. Would the price difference in your opinion between the two chairs make it worth to return the Gaming and go for the office version? I have only had a chance to sit in the office Embody for 10 minutes so I can't really gauge the comfort level but it did take me almost the 2 weeks that I had the gaming Embody to get used to it and feel comfortable. Is the comfort level between the two that drastic to warrant the price difference?
IMHO, if you found a chair that you like, don't bother unless you know you'll like another chair better. your time/effort to pack up, drive, etc is better spent just sitting on your chair and making money / doing what you love doing.
Don't buy embody if you want to have a quiet chair. I've tried it and for me it was unusable due to it making noises from each part by every movement. When streaming or recording videos your mic will pick up everything. Over time it gets even worse.
I am unfortunately in the process of returning my Regular Embody. Perhaps if I had gone into this chair a year ago from that crappy SecretLab chair I previously owned, Iwould have been satisfied. However I already had a refurbished Steelcase Leap V2 for the past 4 months. The comfort was minimal in comparison to the Leap; certainly not enough to justify $1500.
After trialing the Embody for over a week a few years ago, I ended up just getting another Steelcase Leap II. I loved the comfort of the Embody (far better than the Leap), but as a gamer, there was a dealbreaker: the armrests. As a gamer, I need a stable rest for my mouse arm to be on. The Embody's armrests are physically fixed to the seat/back. That means every time you squirm, reposition, rock, etc., the armrest rocks back and forth. This is terrible for precise mouse play, especially on shooters. The Leap, despite its shortcomings (specifically seat padding), has its armrests fixed to the base. When you move, they don't. My guess is this wasn't covered in this video because the armrests are functionally identical on these two models.
Haha they are aware…my viewers came out en masse when HM tried to kick me off of their affiliate program over some unfair BS and I will be forever grateful for yall!!! But bc of that, I’m dead to HM apart from being just an affiliate.
Thank you for the kind words!!! I'm finding cool uses for the thermal camera from these comments, so that's cool I guess....(would rather have my $400 back though LOL)
a truly fantastic in depth comparison video. thank you for making this - clicked your link hopefully goes through if I do purchase one, had to turn off some tracking ad block extensions to allow it to go through.
@@Ahnestly Haha I clicked off the video and went to the HM website and ordered myself a black gaming version, they are 25% right now so I couldn’t let the offer pass up! Thanks, I’m looking forward to testing it!
@ Ahnestly Thank you for all your in depth videos! I’m deciding on the embody but haven’t came across how it would conform to bigger body types. I’m 5’11 240 with a 22” chest. I’ve noticed the back rest might be a little thin for my back but just checking if you’ve read or seen anything on this! Thank you sir!
No one has reported this issue (although some think it!). Only issue might be the top of the frame hitting your shoulders in a weird way. Some tall people notice it, others don't! Getting a headrest could relieve that issue though (but it's a hefty price to pay for "maybe").
Just bought my chair based on your past review and you are spot on. Have the Gaming Embody does feel far better to me. Off note, I know there are reviews about the plastic noise with movement, I barely notice it as a 1st timer owner of HM chair. You would have to be a noise free room to really hear it that much. Just wish at this price it had a headrest (purchased the Atlas headrest after market).
01:05 the regular version is probably more expensive because Herman Miller is a brand (just like Apple etc) that's also alot about image (next to looks and quality), and it's general clientele is more than likely willing to pay a (relative small) premium to not have to deal with the "childish" gaming looks (and image) of the Logitech G logo etc.. I wish they'd offer the gaming version in a bit more colors, like the regular one..
Just decided to return my Embody, which is a regular one. I'm 6 feet 2, and the rounded edges in the top permanently give me a trigger point massage.. which does not work well if you need to sit in it 8 hours a day. I even found out that for the upper part my body almost does not make contact with the chair, except for those two devil-horns. It is bizarre that a 1400 euro chair with years of research (more like marketing blabla) does not provide comfort, or at least cannot be changed in this respect.
The problem I have with my Herman Miller Gaming Embody chair is that the handles on the front of the seat dig into the bottoms of my thighs on both sides. Doesn't matter if I have them fully extended or fully retracted, the plastic digs into my legs. I had to buy a 4" deep memory foam cushion to solve the issue. Kinda lame when I already paid so much for a chair that's already super expensive.
Thank you, fantastic video, and you addressed the bigger question of 2021 Embody vs Gaming Embody. The only problem is that HM doesn't deliver to where I live and they are the only ones that sell the Gaming version T.T
Haha these chairs aren't cheap...and recouping my costs on a video like this can be difficult! I hope the video added enough value to you all to warrant asking people to not forget to support the channel!
My Secretlab is 8 or so years old and needs to be retired. I struggle with lower back issues from time to time and now I'm looking at a chair 5 times the cost of my old Secretlab, which I thought was expensive lol. But this looks so good.
I just got the gaming embody about 2 weeks ago. It's destroying my tailbone. It's quite possibly the worst seat pan I've ever used. I don't have a HM store within 200 miles so I went by reviews and everyone said the seat is super comfortable. It's awful in my experience. Sending it back.
I went with the non-gaming Embody years ago (2020). I didn't particular like the chair because it was before HM added extra cushions. It felt overhyped, overpriced, and uncomfortable. I added extra paddings to the seat and back along with an Atlas Headrest, and now I'm in love with my chair.
even with black Friday "discount" codes, it still way too expensive now. i saw it around 1,100 around last year... then 1,300 around March, and out of no where i check october the price jump to 1800+ now. Regardless, good informative comparison.
I finally bought one after watching this video for dozen times! Im going for the og pinecone color coz the store in my country only sell the black, cyan and ametyst, i want the galaxy one coz it looks better than amethyst but atlas do not make the headrest for that color. Og is quite comfortable when i tried it on the store so im still a happy person!
If anyone knows how I can get rid of the lines in the embody seat/butt pad let me know with a reply! I wear thin UA pants a lot and I can feel the lines in the gaming embody very prominently. It feels pretty bad on skin too and may drive me to return the chair.. I love it overall, but if I could swap out only for padding that doesn't have those lines in it I would in a heartbeat. Depending on your seating position, your pelvis may rest between the padding lines as well. It's actually rather annoying.
The gaming embody may be hotter because of the extra foam. It insulates the heat from disapating. Which does not prove that the copper infused foam is marketing junk. The chair may have had an even larger temperature delta if it didn't have the copper infused foam and instead only had "regular" foam.
Have to say. My non gaming balance embody reigns supreme. Mostly from a very hot climate where i live and that heat dissipation from the balance fabric. Im sure the newer chairs are superior in other ways.
I wonder how that nicer couchin on the gaming version will stand the test of time. Given it's significantly cheaper, there must be some lesser quality?
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Hey I think the cooling gel actually works. In your test you concluded that it did *not* work because the gaming backrest was warmer than the non-gaming, but this actually means the chair is conducting heat away from your body faster than non-gaming. Copper is a highly conductive metal with a low specific heat so it “feels” colder to the touch even when it’s at the same temperature as a normal cloth material. The reason it feels colder is because it conducts heat away from your skin efficiently. It’s the same principle behind putting an ice cube on a metal block vs an ice cube on a book. Both the book and the metal block are the same temperature, but the ice will melt immediately on the metal and not the book. The gaming embody getting measured at a temperature closer to your body temperature after 30 mins actually suggests that the copper cooling gel does work, even if it’s marginal.
do you review any kab chairs cant find a single review and all governments seem to use them?
Looking to buy one within the next couple of weeks.
But I am from Denmark (EU)... Is it possible for you to get an affiliate link from their DK site? I believe it's called "Dkgaming.hermanmiller (...)"
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Dan
The gaming embody + atlas headrest have been some of my best purchases of all time. I don't see myself using a different chair until this one collapses out of warranty. I went from those crappy racing chairs to this and it's just a night and day difference.
yessss!!
I've been using an Embody for 10 years or more. The hydraulic leaked and I replaced it for $100-$200. One of the armrests is splitting on the seam but it's not bad and you can get replacements. The cushion wears down and you feel the parts underneath a bit more. It's still my favorite chair.
How tall are you and how much do you weigh I’m 6’1 and 185 do you think it’s a good option ??
I'm currently trying to talk myself into buying a gaming embody (which will involve taking on some creditcard debt for a couple of months lol)and your comment is convincing me to go for it
@@MVIVN Hey, I'm just some dude on the internet, so feel free to tell me to go eff off, but I really don't recommend you take on CC debt for this! CC debt is the worst with crazy high interest, and you never know what'll happen between now and when you finish paying off the chair (if you're not able to make payment, you'll be taking on more debt and it'll hurt your credit score)!
If you absolutely need a good ergonomic chair, there are a lot of solid chairs out there for cheaper and I'm putting out a video today (12PM est) about an alternative way to go about buying an ergonomic chair that can save you some money!
If you need any advice, feel free to reach out! Would be happy to help...especially if it means not seeing you go into credit card debt over a chair!!!
Bro the timing of this video is perfect I was hesitating with this two versions
Niceeee! Please consider using my link if you pick up! Helps the channel a LOT!
Regarding thermals:
1. It's not a heat gun, it's a thermal camera
2. The copper-infused foam (not gel) wouldn't be cooler itself - it would, if it works, pull the heat from your body quicker. So if the seating area is warmer after sitting in, it could be a sign of it working properly. You would need to measure body temperature of the affected areas too to conclude tho'.
So if you really wanna test it, you need to strip down to your boxers, sit in the Embody for x amount of time, get up, and record yourself and the chair with a thermal camera. Then wait for your body and the chair to reach equilibrium and repeat a couple of times.
Then do the same for the Embody Gaming and compare results.
That way you can conclusively tell whether the chair effectively cools you or not.
why stop at boxers ;-)
And thanks for your input!! Maybe one day when I get some staff members around here (who also don't see as stripping down as workplace misconduct 😂)
@@Ahnestly Ay, I’ll leave that up to you. You could start an OnlyChairs. 🤷🏼♂️
But you could blur some areas a bit. The most important part is of course the rear of the legs and the back - and the butt.
Luckily it’s limited how much is visible in infrared, so maybe you wouldn’t feel super exposed. 😅
Never thought about this.. makes complete sense.
Odd to type this out but trapped heat in the seating area can be a big deal for males who want to procreate.. average sperm counts have gone down over the last few decades. Many believe it's due to more sitting at computer desks.
finally someone did a really good comparison between this two models. Thank you. You helped me a lot!
Glad it helped! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a lot!!
I've tried the regular embody and it seems pretty damn comfortable. I really don't see how much better the gaming one could be.
I have multiple embodys and one gaming embody. It is more cushy and nearly everyone agrees whos been in my studio, but I got some folks here in the comments saying they think otherwise!
ive had the chair for 3 years, i love it..... just got the atlas headrest in and damn its perfect. the headrest is spot on. the complaints of the noise from the chair? i dont understand what youre talking about? in the 3 years i have used it every day, not once have i ever "heard" anything?
just bought my gaming HM embody comparing it to the regular gaming body (used) can definitely say yes it is very comfortable but you got to take into consideration this is to help with posture and it doesn't come with a headrest nor a leg rest like a typical gaming racing chair does but I will say the regular embody did feel a bit rougher and cheaper comparing it to the gaming version but one thing to also take into consideration is that if you buy it used and some parts look bad you aren't granted a 12 warranty for the chair but this is just my hot take obviously you can buy a headrest and a leg rest for this but these things are optional
also... Thank you Ahnestly also for showing me everything about this chair that I wouldn't have known on the chair like functions and other cool stuff like buying guides and other alternatives if we cant afford high end pricey chairs which I wouldn't have known of :)
I did a ton of research and besides looks, most people seem to like the regular embody more. They say the back is too stiff on the gaming snd also there’s some spine padding that feels uncomfortable. Also like you said, the noise is annoying
Yea that’s what I read too!
So odd! I didn't even say anything and everyone instantly shouted "yeah the gaming one is significantly better". The top of the shoulder rest killed it for the taller guys (6' + guys), and the cushion sealed the deal for the shorter folks
This is a very good comparison.
I wish it was possible to get a Gaming Embody in my country, but for some reason it seems impossible to get in Norway.
The cost is probably because of higher density foam. A softer foam might feel better at first, but I wonder how well it hold up overtime. Office chairs last quite a long time as in decades of use.
My gaming Embody is 2 years old, and based on people's comments, it seems like my foam has compressed a bit (people said when testing back to back with a new one, they could feel the panels on the back more). And even compressed, everyone still found it more comfy than a nearly new non gaming Embody!
ahnestly goated chair reviewer
Less squeaking or more cushion 🤔 headrest is probably the tiebreaker
Headrests exist for all options (gaming and non-gaming) except for the amethyst gaming embody
this is superb analysis.
Please review different lifeform chair models👍🏻
Thanks for helping me to another niche.
Appreciate the effort on the vids dude. Restecpah
ONE OF US. ONE OF US. 🙌🙌
Bro, the FLIR for your phone is only like 200.00 and would have saved you a few bucks. Maybe do a few home energy audits to pay for it lol. I'm subbed but I'll make sure you get a fat like or two.
I have the same Flir handheld like him and trust it's better to have a standalone device.
@@venom5809 It's better if you need to use your phone, the reason the standalone device is so large is because it's got a lot of electronics/sensors that are needed but happen to already exist on phones- especially the screen. Makes it pretty easy to cut the price down and get the same or better quality, that said, I've used both and there is no real difference other than ease of use where the standalone shines. Just pull it out and go.
Why can’t Herman Miller fix the loud squeaky sounds on their $1900 chair? I just bought the gaming one but I’m a little worried about the noise
@Dreamwunder Hi, what color is your chair?
5:10 I hate the side wobble of the Embody.
Is that true some of gaming chairs are made in Malaysia??
I like the vantum
I also have to tell you that this is the most comprehensive comparison on youtube at the moment. When i did my shopping last year for this chair, i had to dig through endless dated reddit threads for my answers. This video will help a LOT of people.
Tried out both the gaming and regular embody, and prefer the regular embody (Both 2023 models). No squeaking when moving and the backrest forms itself better to my back. Apart from that they basically feel the same.
Same. Bought the gaming Embody, didn’t like the padding, so I returned it for the regular Embody
@@spartanV48having tried both you prefer the regular Embody?
I prefer the regular embody. While I will concede the seat on the gaming is a little more comfortable, I vastly prefer the back of the regular. I didnt really like the padded strip on the gaming embody. It came out feeling very odd to me. The regular embody feels like leaning back into a hammock. For size reference, I'm 6'4" and 325 pounds.
I've never tried the gaming chair, but I couldn't be more pleased with the regular variety I got. It's perfectly quiet, on top of being incredibly comfortable and supportive. I'm confident I made the right choice.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, all! I was surprised at how quickly all my friends decided on the gaming Embody over the regular one. I'm wondering if with the lumbar changes, if HM hasn't made other changes to the non-gaming models? Mine feels much more skeletony compared to the gaming!
Seat cushion is also really easy to throw some memory foam under. Gonna try that soon.
@@Rave.-This is the best Feature. you can mod ans replace it anytime
gaming or non-gaming?@@Rave.-
Got one last week cause of your videos, ordered the headrest as well, big thank you for helping me, so far this chair is a blessing even with the crazy price tag
Me too. It's our one week anniversary today. I got the non gaming variety, and I love it! Still waiting for delivery of my headrest.
LOL "one week anniversary"...love it.
To give a different perspective: As a pretty tall person myself (200 cm/ 6'5 ft), I don't have any issues with the OG Embodys (2023) back shape at the top. It doesn't even get uncomfortable when I adjust the back fit tention to the maximum, which I never do during normal use. Just some anecdotal evidence, but maybe it helps someone to decide :) Great content als always.
Thanks for your comment ! I am a Little smaller than you about 6.4 193cm. Could you tell me a little more about your chair ? How is the seating height especially. That would interest me a lot! Thank you in advance
@@GbproofaccountTheMaster Despite having long legs even for my height, I don't even use the highest possible seat position of the Embody, so it shouldn't be an issue for you I guess. Only the seat depth has to be maxed out, but then it's pretty great. I tried the Haworth Fern as well since it has a comparable and very nice backrest, but the seat pan is not ideal for taller persons. I am very happy with the Embody, try it for yourself if you get the chance 👍🏼
@@niko_nikitiadis thank you for your reply !! I appreciate it a lot. I unfortunately can’t try the Herman miller chairs out :( I tried and requested it at several dealers but they only accept corporate clients… Interesting that you don’t even use the highest seating height of the chair ! I even thought the highest one wouldn’t be enough. I will order the original embody and give it a shot :)
I can actually answer the question at ~ 1:10 mark about pricing: The classic embody has a higher selection of colorways, materials, and casters, so they construct them upon order. The gaming embody has only four options that are pre-built, so they just pull your selection off the shelf. It's not the cost of the materials, it's more of the time/customization (and possibly the knowledge that they can eek out a bit more cost from businesses buying non-gaming Embody chairs).
Great comparison video! I tried the two of them at a HM store last year and preferred the non-gaming. I found the ridges on the backrest to be uncomfortable on the gaming version. They felt pretty similar other than that.
Your commented reminded me that I commented that I could feel the ridges when I first got the gaming Embody, but they're virtually non-feelable now. I think that might be a result of breaking in the chair...sigh...maybe I'll buy a new gaming Embody to compare...after I make back the money spent on this video 😂😅
The headrest changes everything for me, went from regretting the purchase to: Yay I like my expensive chair! lol. The squeaking is definitively loud on my gaming Embody
!!! That's wild. It is an amazing headrest though
How tall are you? And did you notice a posture difference from before and after using the headrest? Like it made you able to sit differently upright or anything?
@@thedumbstuff4170 I'm 5' 7", it definitively changed my posture, but I sit in a million different ways so it's hard to say how it changed it exactly. I mostly use it as a neck support more so than head support, unless I'm really leaning back.
I'll warn people that all these ergo chairs, embody included, make you sit healthier, but won't be the ultimate comfort. The Embody gaming has been the least 'weird' feeling to me in the ergo space, but it'll never FEEL comfortable like a SecretLabs style chair or even a cushy fabric chair might.
I'm surprised you say that cos I assumed I would be buying the headrest, but I've found that even when reclined to the second last tilt limit position I find it keeps my head pretty upright naturally. Maybe if you're in the most reclined position a lot? Maybe you also have the backrest fully loosened and tension loosened too?
I own regular embody for year and a half, no problem whatsoever. But after watching this video, the problem arise. Now I want the gaming one. 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
I tried out both at the herman miller store and honestly couldn't tell a difference lol don't worry about it
I have been waiting on my tax return to buy the gaming embody. Yesterday it was $1845. Today it is $1995. What the heck. Do the prices fluctuate often? That's a big jump in the price.
It might be dynamic pricing. Check price again from a different computer
@@jvaldeuxo maybe. I already purchased the gaming version. Thanks for the reply.
Was it worth it?@@nateavis5686
Gaming Embody must be using MX Blues for the pixelated mesh.
LOL W comment as always....LOL mx blues...genius
I bought the gaming embody last November, hands down the best work from home office chair. I did decide to purchase the headrest a week ago cause it would be nice to have my neck/head supported to fully relax when I lean back. It is expensive but I figure it’s an investment since I’m going to spending years sitting in this chair 8hrs a day.. it’s totally worth it! I hope HM never discontinues the gaming embody
Leaving a comment to appease the algorithm, and to say, your channel is dope man, keep it up!
Legend! Thank you so much!!
Excellent comparison. I've been considering this purchase for over a year and your videos helped a lot. I'm buying one this week. Going with the regular embody just for the custom color configurations. I'll be sure to use your link. Thanks bro!
Hey this is a really good review and I have a huge question, I have a herniated disc in my lower back, are either of these chair suitable for long periods with my condition?
Hey! I’m always hesitant to answer these questions since I am not a medical professional. My general thought is that the higher end chair brands may have given more thought to this issue than cheaper chair companies. But you can’t know unless you try it as well. If you’re ok with paying a reshipping fee ($50ish), then you could try the embody out and see if it’s a good fit. Another possible chair to look at would be the Anthros chair!
Hope this helps and really hoping you find a good chair for your needs!
@@Ahnestly Hey thanks for the reply, I'll do some research on the Anthros chair.
The reason why the Gaming embody was hotter when you left the seat IS because the heat absorbed your body heat.
The reason why the one without the cooling mechanism in was cooler, was because it insulated your body head instead of absorbing it.
That's how heat works.
A better way to test the cooling mechanism, would have been to use warm silicone place that on the chair, measure the temperature before and after, and how quickly it cooled to a chosen temperature.
wouldn't the seat being hotter mean it is pulling more heat away from your body thus keeping you cooler?
the back being hotter on the gaming model means it absorbed more heat from your body, meaning it drew more heat out of your body
Say what you will, that (and my) Nightfall Embody is gorgeous. I got mine in the black frame but man that white is crisp too.
I do intend to throw some memory foam under my seat, which is extremely easy to do. The back might be a little more tricky though. Fortunately, I also have an Atlas headrest which mitigates a majority of the aggressiveness on the shoulders.
Made a purchase of the Logitech Embody Gaming Chair. Your links did not work for the Black/Cyan color that I wanted and also went to UK rather than US. Wrote them a letter to credit you and your channel for the purchase. Thanks for your reviews. Very helpful to define how I sit and what chair may work best for me. Also liked your recommendation for the roller blade wheels from Amazon and headrest from Atlas.
Hey!! Thank you for doing that! They said they're going to launch a UK affiliate program soon, so I asked if I could join it. They asked for my reach/demographics, so things like this help! Really appreciate it!
Update?😊
Sitting in my Embody right now, like I said before some days I love it, some days I don't. Yesterday it felt great, today meh. Still love how it looks so I will keep it in the house but overall I think my V1 Leap is more comfortable and I tried a V2 Leap with the bigger back and headrest and that feels even nicer. I am going to get this time instead an Ekornes office chair or Gunlocke Washington. On a sidenote I just got a similar thermal camera, it's awesome for finding poorly insulated spots in the house.
I did not even think about all the ways I could use this thermal camera...THIS IS BRILLIANT! My house does a terrible job insulating itself, and this is awesome! Thank you!!!
@@Ahnestly It's seriously great at finding poorly insulated areas as well as any water leaks etc. Get a good moisture meter too. Topdon makes nice stuff but I went with Flir, the industry leader for thermal cameras. Paid about the same too.
How do you use your water leaker? What are you pointing it at?
@@Ahnestly If there is water it will show up as purple. If you think maybe the wall got wet inside then you just press the moisture meter against the drywall and it will tell you if it’s definitely wet or not. If your friends and family are buying a house not bad to take these with them and see for themselves if there are any issues.
I can't stand my Leap v2...
Had the gaming embody and it had an uncomfortable piece poking the lowest end of my back. Otherwise it was great
The non gaming has the same piece poking, but found it better masked in the gaming compared to non gaming
Bless. We’ve needed a comprehensive comparison video like this with a newer regular Embody very badly in the community, and you delivered!
It sounds like I may have made a mistake buying the regular Embody instead of the gaming one a year ago, given this comparison. But to be fair, I think it was the correct decision given the information I had at the time. The biggest factors being the noise, hearing that the foam in the backrest on the gaming one was uneven, and hearing that there were more quality control issues with the gaming one due to it being mass-produced (whereas the regulars are usually custom-made, hence the higher price). But it sounds like based off your review here that the foam in the backrest may not be an issue, and that the quality control observation may have been worth risking (worst case scenario, you return the chair for another one). And on the subreddit I’m even hearing that the noise may not be an issue anymore on the newer gaming Embodies, based off of what some people who bought ones recently are saying.
As long as you love what you have, who cares!!
Same here on Logi vs regular Embody. The lack of a location with showroom to try all the different chairs really hurt giving the Logi model a shot. I have been thinking of lifting the seat cover off and adding another thin layer of foam to my Embody.
I'm in love with my non gaming version. I've found absolutely nothing to complain about in the week I've had it. No regrets whatsoever.
Hey as long as you love it!
But here you are ;)
@@t.h.9897 Yeah, here I am. So?
@@t.h.9897 u sound like a little bch ya know ?
I wasnt even looking to buy a new chair and I saw this vid and also the black friday deal not knowing anything about HM and just skipped to the final thoughts. I guess I now own one. I used your link, you enabler...
One of us...one of us...now go, and bring your friends to me. HAHA yooo seriously though, let me know how you like it!!!
(Also, thank you SO MUCH for using my link. Really helps the channel a LOT.)
Also, if it helps, the reason why I have so many people come through my studio is because one guy I know bought one, and he loved it so much, he started telling all his friends, who all started hitting me up asking if they could test them. So far, not a single person has walked out without thinking the Gaming Embody was the best chair.
What was the bf price
First of all, thanks for the effort you put into these videos!
I already commented on one of your other videos that I ended up getting an Embody like two weeks ago. Would probably have gone for a gaming one if it was possible but it's not here in Norway.
I also went for the Rythm fabric instead of the Sync, simply due to the pricing here, it was quite a bit cheaper. According to HM's own site though it seems like they're very similar, but hey I have no idea. I do like the chair, but I'm still getting used to it, trying to figure out the "perfect" settings for me.
As long as you love it, that's all that matters!
Got the regular Embody, and im happy with it. The gaming embody isnt available here either way so the choice was already made for me.
Great video! In your recent Fractal Refine video you commented on its comfort for users who sit on their leg and/or cross-legged. Could you please comment on the same for the Embody? Often I like to sit with my foot resting on the seat (tucked under the other foot), so chairs with sculpted seats (like the Refine, Aeron and similar) are a no-go for me. How does the Embody fare in this regard? Sorry to bother you, but I have nobody else to ask. Thanks for your input!
@Ahnestly Thank you for the fantastic content. Does the Gaming Embody come with hard floor castors as standard? I intend to use mine on hard wood floor. I know hard floor castors required extra payment previously.
Thanks @Ahnestly. Good vid, hard choice now, especiallly after this good comparaison. 2 questions if i can.
- Do you think the padded strip on the gaming embody the Gaming Embody can be uncomfortable on a small personn (i'm approximately 5' 9)?
- what about the resistance when you lean back ? which one is the least hard? i'm approximately 143 lbs (don't want to feel like uncomfortable or figting to keep a good position)
Interesting. I own one of each of these chairs and I prefer the Non gaming chair. Primarily because i prefer less cushioning on the non gaming chair. I have had the non gamer for about 10 years and I love it. Overall, these are the best chairs I have found. i can be in either one all day and not have back or butt pain.
For me the Aeron was better. I have both Gaming Embody and Aeron. Aeron is for me more confortable and better in back support. But each person has different body. So, test both.
Some people oil the joints of the gaming embody or do minor mods that a novice can do to reduce the noise (minor mods on a similar level to installing the Atlas headrest such as using different types of screws in certain areas or tightening them more than what Herman Miller does out of the factory because I read that is a problem too and there are also mods like lightly sanding a spot which is almost hidden to the naked eye from most angles so there is less plastic scraping each other but the sanding job is hidden from view from above)
I just got mine yesterday, so far my real complaint about the chair is the lack of adjustability with the armrest. Also, when you tilt back with the chair it aims the armrest at an angle which I find uncomfortable. I just ordered some pads for the armrest and I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on the headrest. Also does the seat break in a bit over time? I find its a little bit hard on the butt
IMO a chair that cost me 2200$ should have 4 D armrests
Just ordered the headrest 😂😂
LOL nice. Headrest is gamechanger IMHO. And yeah, I think people are reporting the gaming ridges aren't comfortable. It reminded me of when I first got the gaming Embody - I felt them a lot more. But now, I barely feel them. I think that's the result of me breaking in the chair
@@Ahnestly I absolutely love the chair even with its faults, I had bought a Fern which was also a great chair but decided to return it to buy the chair I REALLY wanted. I wonder how long it will take to get the headrest... it was crazy expensive in Canada clocking in at 283$
Hey @Ahnestly! Do you know what kind of casters come with the Gaming version? Their own website does not mention this. I cant find it anywhere. The regular Embody has three caster choices, so I am wondering which of those come with the Gaming version.
I have heard some taller folks have experienced pain from this chair as it causes their shoulders to roll forward. Is this a tall person centric issue? I haven't seen much of a work-around except placing a towel in the center. I'm 6'3 myself so that is a concern as I almost financed one of these.
I genuinely wonder if Logitech's logo being on the gaming embody has something to do with the price. Like maybe they're covering some of the manufacturer's costs and negotiated the price? Like it's cheaper in that regard too, so people are going to be more inclined to purchase the gaming version and it's advertising for logitech.
I just placed an order for the regular embody in the sync fabric a few days ago, I'm excited to see when it comes in and to rewatch this video to do a comparison of my own. Awesome video!
Noice!!
Between working from home full time and being an avid gamer, i finally decided to invest in a good chair. Ordered the Gaming Embody last night to take advantage of the sale. It'll be here Sunday. Can't wait. And although very backordered, I also ordered the Atlas headrest to go with it. Thanks for the review. Definitely feeling like I made the right decision.
Woot woot!
Update..?
Update?
@@MadClowdz it’s amazing. With every penny
@@davidc.7838 its amazing. Worth every penny.
7:08 I think you meant to say gaming embody
Great review, but did I miss the armrests review section? I'm interested in the cushioning on the armrests and how they compare to something like a Steelcase Leap v2.
Thanks for the video! I've been eyeing this chair for a while now and trying to decide between these two. Now I know which one I want 🙂
Hey! I hope you waited a little bit! Sale going on now! Please consider using my link if you pick up - helps the channel a LOT!
@Ahnestly fortunately I haven't bought it yet. I'll use the link 😊
@@NikeLikeMike I appreciate you!
@Ahnestly What about Aeron? I think it's better than Embody gaming what do u think?
Does the gaming embody and gaming aeron come with the upgraded hardwood/carpet casters?
Just ordered the gaming embody, using your link. I have learned good furniture makes a huge difference in health and quality of life, so I'm sure this investment will payoff for my music studio. Thanks for the comprehensive videos. They really helped me decide.
Hey! I really REALLY appreciate it! I haven't seen anything come through on my end...would you be able to send me an email at ahntouragemedia@gmail.com? If not, no big deal, but trying to see if my links are being weird. Thanks!!
I'd pay you $100 to remove the stupid Logitech logo.
I’m torn on gaming but can t decide on cyan or black. What’s everyone’s view? I liked the special edition embody but couldn’t justify extra money. I’m thinking black.
Black on black is smexy! I personally wanted to get the Amethyst or Galaxy, but bought this one instead for this video 😂
If you do end up picking up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a lot!!!
Hey Dan, picked up the Gaming Embody based off the video you made and it's been a great chair for the last 2 weeks I've had it. I recently just heard back from my Herman Miller AD and they are offering the Office Embody with Sync Fabric and Titanium base for 1840CAD versus the 2268CAD on HM.
Would the price difference in your opinion between the two chairs make it worth to return the Gaming and go for the office version? I have only had a chance to sit in the office Embody for 10 minutes so I can't really gauge the comfort level but it did take me almost the 2 weeks that I had the gaming Embody to get used to it and feel comfortable. Is the comfort level between the two that drastic to warrant the price difference?
IMHO, if you found a chair that you like, don't bother unless you know you'll like another chair better. your time/effort to pack up, drive, etc is better spent just sitting on your chair and making money / doing what you love doing.
I couldn’t hear those chairs. I come from a world where all chairs make noise.
Don't buy embody if you want to have a quiet chair. I've tried it and for me it was unusable due to it making noises from each part by every movement. When streaming or recording videos your mic will pick up everything. Over time it gets even worse.
Under influence of this video and 25% discount from the HM I've just bought gaming Embody. Hopefully I will not regret it.
Awesome!!! Hope you used my link! Helps the channel a LOT! :-) Let me know how you like it!
I've returned it. It's nice and cozy, but does not provide much additional value over Ticova chair to justify 10x price.
I am unfortunately in the process of returning my Regular Embody. Perhaps if I had gone into this chair a year ago from that crappy SecretLab chair I previously owned, Iwould have been satisfied. However I already had a refurbished Steelcase Leap V2 for the past 4 months. The comfort was minimal in comparison to the Leap; certainly not enough to justify $1500.
Theyre the same price
@@colemancarson8118 whats the same price?
Could do an “Embody Settings” video, I.e setting it up to make it more comfy
Maybe one day!
After trialing the Embody for over a week a few years ago, I ended up just getting another Steelcase Leap II. I loved the comfort of the Embody (far better than the Leap), but as a gamer, there was a dealbreaker: the armrests. As a gamer, I need a stable rest for my mouse arm to be on. The Embody's armrests are physically fixed to the seat/back. That means every time you squirm, reposition, rock, etc., the armrest rocks back and forth. This is terrible for precise mouse play, especially on shooters. The Leap, despite its shortcomings (specifically seat padding), has its armrests fixed to the base. When you move, they don't. My guess is this wasn't covered in this video because the armrests are functionally identical on these two models.
I have a V1 Leap and an Embody and honestly I like the Leap better.
At least with the seat pad on the Leap, you can get Crandall or BTOD to reupholster it with additional padding.
HM should know that I am going to buy one of these chairs based on your reviews.
Haha they are aware…my viewers came out en masse when HM tried to kick me off of their affiliate program over some unfair BS and I will be forever grateful for yall!!! But bc of that, I’m dead to HM apart from being just an affiliate.
Incredible video! Your content is truly unique and you keep improving and adding more info like buying a thermal imaging camera. Congratulations 👏
Thank you for the kind words!!! I'm finding cool uses for the thermal camera from these comments, so that's cool I guess....(would rather have my $400 back though LOL)
a truly fantastic in depth comparison video. thank you for making this - clicked your link hopefully goes through if I do purchase one, had to turn off some tracking ad block extensions to allow it to go through.
Thanks brotherman, I think I might finally upgrade from my 50EUR Ikea chair
woot woot! Would love to know what you end up doing and let me know how you like it!!
@@Ahnestly Haha I clicked off the video and went to the HM website and ordered myself a black gaming version, they are 25% right now so I couldn’t let the offer pass up! Thanks, I’m looking forward to testing it!
@ Ahnestly Thank you for all your in depth videos! I’m deciding on the embody but haven’t came across how it would conform to bigger body types. I’m 5’11 240 with a 22” chest. I’ve noticed the back rest might be a little thin for my back but just checking if you’ve read or seen anything on this! Thank you sir!
No one has reported this issue (although some think it!). Only issue might be the top of the frame hitting your shoulders in a weird way. Some tall people notice it, others don't! Getting a headrest could relieve that issue though (but it's a hefty price to pay for "maybe").
Thank you so much for your quick reply sir! A like and a subscribe and I’ll use your link for the purchase! Keep rockin bro
Hey! I appreciate that!! Thanks for the support!!
Just bought my chair based on your past review and you are spot on. Have the Gaming Embody does feel far better to me. Off note, I know there are reviews about the plastic noise with movement, I barely notice it as a 1st timer owner of HM chair. You would have to be a noise free room to really hear it that much. Just wish at this price it had a headrest (purchased the Atlas headrest after market).
Man there were quite a few people who wrote they liked the non-gaming better, so I thought I was on crazy pills. Good to know you agree! !
01:05 the regular version is probably more expensive because Herman Miller is a brand (just like Apple etc) that's also alot about image (next to looks and quality), and it's general clientele is more than likely willing to pay a (relative small) premium to not have to deal with the "childish" gaming looks (and image) of the Logitech G logo etc..
I wish they'd offer the gaming version in a bit more colors, like the regular one..
Just decided to return my Embody, which is a regular one. I'm 6 feet 2, and the rounded edges in the top permanently give me a trigger point massage.. which does not work well if you need to sit in it 8 hours a day. I even found out that for the upper part my body almost does not make contact with the chair, except for those two devil-horns. It is bizarre that a 1400 euro chair with years of research (more like marketing blabla) does not provide comfort, or at least cannot be changed in this respect.
The problem I have with my Herman Miller Gaming Embody chair is that the handles on the front of the seat dig into the bottoms of my thighs on both sides. Doesn't matter if I have them fully extended or fully retracted, the plastic digs into my legs. I had to buy a 4" deep memory foam cushion to solve the issue. Kinda lame when I already paid so much for a chair that's already super expensive.
Thank you, fantastic video, and you addressed the bigger question of 2021 Embody vs Gaming Embody.
The only problem is that HM doesn't deliver to where I live and they are the only ones that sell the Gaming version T.T
Love the video, hate the begging for us to use the links every 30 seconds
Haha these chairs aren't cheap...and recouping my costs on a video like this can be difficult! I hope the video added enough value to you all to warrant asking people to not forget to support the channel!
My Secretlab is 8 or so years old and needs to be retired.
I struggle with lower back issues from time to time and now I'm looking at a chair 5 times the cost of my old Secretlab, which I thought was expensive lol.
But this looks so good.
I just got the gaming embody about 2 weeks ago. It's destroying my tailbone. It's quite possibly the worst seat pan I've ever used. I don't have a HM store within 200 miles so I went by reviews and everyone said the seat is super comfortable. It's awful in my experience. Sending it back.
That's so odd and shows not every chair is meant for every person. I have a tail (LOL), and I find it super comfy...
ありがとうございます。エンボディのロジクール版を考えているので、参考になりました。
日本のエンボディゲーミング版も、おおよそアメリカと同価格ですが、円安の状況では、正直ハードルが高く感じますね・・
Woah a comment from Japan! Cool, and that's crazy that it's the same price!
@@Ahnestly 返信ありがとうございます！
大体日本の方が高くなるのですが、おおよそ同じ価格なのはありがたい限りです。
エンボディやアーロンに関しては、昔はアーロン実売12万円、エンボディ実売15万円くらいで売っていました。
ざっくり倍近くになっているため、ハーマンミラーが配慮してくれているのはわかるけど、高すぎて買えないという声が出ていますね。
今回のブラックフライデーセールはありがたいです。
I went with the non-gaming Embody years ago (2020). I didn't particular like the chair because it was before HM added extra cushions. It felt overhyped, overpriced, and uncomfortable. I added extra paddings to the seat and back along with an Atlas Headrest, and now I'm in love with my chair.
even with black Friday "discount" codes, it still way too expensive now. i saw it around 1,100 around last year... then 1,300 around March, and out of no where i check october the price jump to 1800+ now. Regardless, good informative comparison.
I finally bought one after watching this video for dozen times! Im going for the og pinecone color coz the store in my country only sell the black, cyan and ametyst, i want the galaxy one coz it looks better than amethyst but atlas do not make the headrest for that color. Og is quite comfortable when i tried it on the store so im still a happy person!
If anyone knows how I can get rid of the lines in the embody seat/butt pad let me know with a reply!
I wear thin UA pants a lot and I can feel the lines in the gaming embody very prominently. It feels pretty bad on skin too and may drive me to return the chair.. I love it overall, but if I could swap out only for padding that doesn't have those lines in it I would in a heartbeat. Depending on your seating position, your pelvis may rest between the padding lines as well. It's actually rather annoying.
This is a quality video and your presentation skills are on point. Thank you 👍🏻
I appreciate the kind words!! Would love to try out sim racing myself some time...
@@Ahnestly No time like the present mate, you will love it.......come and join the revolution 💪🏻😅
The gaming embody may be hotter because of the extra foam. It insulates the heat from disapating. Which does not prove that the copper infused foam is marketing junk. The chair may have had an even larger temperature delta if it didn't have the copper infused foam and instead only had "regular" foam.
Have to say. My non gaming balance embody reigns supreme. Mostly from a very hot climate where i live and that heat dissipation from the balance fabric. Im sure the newer chairs are superior in other ways.
Thanks!
Hey!! Thank you so much!!! Means a lot!
I wonder how that nicer couchin on the gaming version will stand the test of time. Given it's significantly cheaper, there must be some lesser quality?
fantastic reviews my dude ty