Why is the sinulation of the nickel sparkplug in an engine with port fuel injection, while the precious metal sparkplug is in an engine with direct fuel injection?
Dear @NGabunchanumbers, In general, nickel spark plugs are designed for being used in engines with port fuel injection, precious metal spark plugs are made for usage in engines with direct injection, where much tougher conditions prevail, in terms of temperature, pressure and ignition voltage. Therefore the simulations in the video show the “natural environment” of the spark plugs. For more details, also watch our TechNugget “Precious Metal in Spark Plugs”, which was also published on this channel: ruclips.net/video/VasAW4wmoIM/видео.htmlfeature=shared Your Bosch Mobility team
@@boschmobilityso you show a simulation of BOTH in each situation regardless of where they are designed to be used. This is either a display of bad scientific methodology or bad marketing. Also, throw in some spark metrics such as how much juice is being supplied and how hot the spark is along with dwell time and combustion temperatures.
I have a plug idea integrating old school mod by David Vizard,, but modified further, along with 2 new technologies to treat a conventional plug! Hope I can get my health & heart straightened out, so I can put my idea to the test, along with a certain, old plasma generator ignition box! I know the combo of mods will work, as they are all proven technologies, but combined🤔😁. Unless Bosch wants to pay me for my Big Idea!🤑
Just saying, my Nissan Micra with HR16DE engine, a port injected (not direct fuel injection) flex fuel NA unit uses Bosh Platinum electrode plugs and their durability is much higher. My old Clio and my dad's car requires new plugs with half mileage, about 40 000km or so, while Nissan's manual specifies about 100 000km. Mine's about 12 years old and 60 000km, almost exclusive ethanol use and it still has factory plugs.
I understand that port injection and direct injection engines require different types of spark plugs, since port injection cars are generally easier going on the spark plugs. but I do not really see how the Bosh spark plugs improve the functionality of the spark itself. it doesn't do much to increase the efficiency while the prices can sometimes be double or triple that of a nickel plug. if you want us to spend the extra money to buy your stuff, make it worth it to buy it. go ahead and over engineer it to make it ultra durable and ultra efficient, if it will save money in the long run it is fine by me. PS: I have heard people working on carbon tipped spark plugs (me) that can basically last indefinetly. Bisch Basch Bosch, you got competition on the horizon, and they actually listen to the people and try to win them over with good quality to price ratio products.
Is there such a thing as a spark fire counter (on a modern cars), that counts the number of fires to determine spark wear instead of mileage and display "engine check" and on-dashboard message when counter is up about sparks replacement? Would that be more precise than mileage counting? Even better, is there a sensor (i.e., spark voltage) to detect worn sparks? Or both, sensor and counter (that combination might detect/indicate some other problem(s) with the engine)...
Dear @bsimic29, Modern control units theoretically have the ability to measure the number of sparks, the rise in ignition voltage and other parameters and use this to determine the spark plug wear. The implementation of such a wear simulation is the responsibility of the vehicle manufacturer. Kind regards
They must have had a team of rocket scientists and brain surgeons working on that. Clearly obvious. They could’ve make a spark plug that lasted longer years ago, just like they could’ve make tyres last longer, engines wear less and cars that don’t disintegrate when they have the slightest bump. But they aren’t in the business of making stuff that lasts, they’re in the business of selling stuff that lasts as long as they want it too.
Dear @mikotorifky4070, In this video we decided to show a simplified comparison between Nickel and Precious metal spark plug wear behaviour in general. As we have a wide range of precious metals in our spark plug portfolio, we chose on of them, Iridium in this case. Best regards
It’s a class of metals, such as: Platinum Gold (likely not this one) Silver (likely not this one) Palladium Anything at all in the rare earth elements group Uranium Plutonium Etc
Instead of referring to "precious metals" why don't you tell us what the metals are. Lack of transparency creates mistrust and are you sure you're not a scammer.
A) because they have multiple different types of spark plugs that use precious metals (e.g. platinum and iridium) B) did you really just accuse one of the largest parts suppliers in the automotive industry, who works with numerous manufacturers and supplies parts for new cars at the factories, of "being a scammer" 🤣🤣🤣
Dear @derekbevan7145, As a global company, we are using our international production network, which follows the Bosch process and quality standards. Best regards
That music alone should sell more spark plugs 🤣
legit, its banger (pun intended haha)
This song is a banger Ngl
Fun fact...this soundtrack is from the game "Pickle Pete" for android. 🤣
"My precious"
Smeeegol pushes pedal to the metal....😂
I see what you did there..
😂
The precious metal fine tip spark plugs also tend to light up the fuel better with less fouling on two stroke motorbikes.
Why is the sinulation of the nickel sparkplug in an engine with port fuel injection, while the precious metal sparkplug is in an engine with direct fuel injection?
Dang! GR8T spotting.. I had to go back and look. You R correct (of course). Very interesting. Just saying
Dear @NGabunchanumbers, In general, nickel spark plugs are designed for being used in engines with port fuel injection, precious metal spark plugs are made for usage in engines with direct injection, where much tougher conditions prevail, in terms of temperature, pressure and ignition voltage. Therefore the simulations in the video show the “natural environment” of the spark plugs. For more details, also watch our TechNugget “Precious Metal in Spark Plugs”, which was also published on this channel: ruclips.net/video/VasAW4wmoIM/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Your Bosch Mobility team
@@boschmobilityso you show a simulation of BOTH in each situation regardless of where they are designed to be used. This is either a display of bad scientific methodology or bad marketing.
Also, throw in some spark metrics such as how much juice is being supplied and how hot the spark is along with dwell time and combustion temperatures.
I have a plug idea integrating old school mod by David Vizard,, but modified further, along with 2 new technologies to treat a conventional plug! Hope I can get my health & heart straightened out, so I can put my idea to the test, along with a certain, old plasma generator ignition box! I know the combo of mods will work, as they are all proven technologies, but combined🤔😁. Unless Bosch wants to pay me for my Big Idea!🤑
@@boschmobility So it's true what people have been saying. The "Bosch Mobility Team" RoCks!
Precious metal spark plugs are men's best friends.
Smeagol will love this precious metal
Laser ignition, with a Saphire window at the position of the central electrode, and a fiber laser feed through the ceramic insulator.
Wouldn't that pit the piston ?
@@ralanham76 Laser pistons.
Just saying, my Nissan Micra with HR16DE engine, a port injected (not direct fuel injection) flex fuel NA unit uses Bosh Platinum electrode plugs and their durability is much higher.
My old Clio and my dad's car requires new plugs with half mileage, about 40 000km or so, while Nissan's manual specifies about 100 000km.
Mine's about 12 years old and 60 000km, almost exclusive ethanol use and it still has factory plugs.
I understand that port injection and direct injection engines require different types of spark plugs, since port injection cars are generally easier going on the spark plugs. but I do not really see how the Bosh spark plugs improve the functionality of the spark itself. it doesn't do much to increase the efficiency while the prices can sometimes be double or triple that of a nickel plug.
if you want us to spend the extra money to buy your stuff, make it worth it to buy it. go ahead and over engineer it to make it ultra durable and ultra efficient, if it will save money in the long run it is fine by me.
PS: I have heard people working on carbon tipped spark plugs (me) that can basically last indefinetly. Bisch Basch Bosch, you got competition on the horizon, and they actually listen to the people and try to win them over with good quality to price ratio products.
A carbon tipped spark plug? What's that all about?
You can use either plug in either scenario as long as they are the same format and same temperature range.
Fun fact, leave those plugs in an aluminum head for too long and you may not be able to get them out.
My car has a V8 and factory plugs. Changed them at 145,000 miles. Put same factory plugs back in. No need for expensive plugs.
What's a spark plug? My engine doesn't have any spark plugs despite having eight cylinders. Now glow plugs, that's where it's at!
Is there such a thing as a spark fire counter (on a modern cars), that counts the number of fires to determine spark wear instead of mileage and display "engine check" and on-dashboard message when counter is up about sparks replacement? Would that be more precise than mileage counting?
Even better, is there a sensor (i.e., spark voltage) to detect worn sparks? Or both, sensor and counter (that combination might detect/indicate some other problem(s) with the engine)...
Dear @bsimic29, Modern control units theoretically have the ability to measure the number of sparks, the rise in ignition voltage and other parameters and use this to determine the spark plug wear. The implementation of such a wear simulation is the responsibility of the vehicle manufacturer. Kind regards
They must have had a team of rocket scientists and brain surgeons working on that. Clearly obvious. They could’ve make a spark plug that lasted longer years ago, just like they could’ve make tyres last longer, engines wear less and cars that don’t disintegrate when they have the slightest bump.
But they aren’t in the business of making stuff that lasts, they’re in the business of selling stuff that lasts as long as they want it too.
Ima cop some for the s14.
Just about everything on cars improved in the past 30 years, on Japanese cars.
Except German engineered cars that advanced so much that they gone backwards.
@@maestrovsoand Ford Ecoboost, and anything with a wet timing belt, and anything that uses ad blue, etc etc 😂😂
There are many multiport injection engines that require iridium plugs
For my Fiat Tipo 1.5 t4 Hybrid 130 cv?
How about silver spark plug ?
Dear @mikotorifky4070, In this video we decided to show a simplified comparison between Nickel and Precious metal spark plug wear behaviour in general. As we have a wide range of precious metals in our spark plug portfolio, we chose on of them, Iridium in this case. Best regards
@boschmobility so you need another video to explain silver spark plug 😅
280k on a set of NGK Iridium plugs in a Camry with only a 6 thousandths increase in original gap.
You guys believe today companies made/built anything to last for consumer?
neah, I'll go with ngk iridium.
why would any sparkplug ever be made out of the same material i eat my noodles with ????
We don’t need spark plugs where we’re going
There is not such a thing like precious metal.
We won't need sparkplugs in the future. Go again Bosch, you can do better.
Nickel is a metal, precious metals is a description or nowadays a pronoun 😊.
It’s a class of metals, such as:
Platinum
Gold (likely not this one)
Silver (likely not this one)
Palladium
Anything at all in the rare earth elements group
Uranium
Plutonium
Etc
@@Wyi-the-rogue It's Iridium
Instead of referring to "precious metals" why don't you tell us what the metals are. Lack of transparency creates mistrust and are you sure you're not a scammer.
A) because they have multiple different types of spark plugs that use precious metals (e.g. platinum and iridium)
B) did you really just accuse one of the largest parts suppliers in the automotive industry, who works with numerous manufacturers and supplies parts for new cars at the factories, of "being a scammer" 🤣🤣🤣
I bought some bosch plugs for my car, reading the boxes the bloody things are made in China, WHY.
Dear @derekbevan7145, As a global company, we are using our international production network, which follows the Bosch process and quality standards. Best regards