Moin Akhtar, Anwar Maqsood and Karachi Literature Festival - Shehzad Ghias -
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Addressing the KLF controversy
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Chapters:
0:00 KLF
5:00 Criticizing 'Legends'
10:00 History of Performing Arts in Pakistan
15:00 Problematic Jokes and Punching Down
21:00 Topic of the joke vs Target of the joke
30:00 Relegation of local languages and ethnicities
34:00 Philosophy of Comedy 
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I am from India, mostly watched Moin sir's work. And the satire skit he did was not to make fun or ridicule Bengalis, instead he making fun and ridicule of Pakistani administration and government. It was a satire and I can see that clearly. Lack of understanding of sarcasm and satire but new gen wokiyas is a problem. Target was clearly Pakistani Adminstration, government and policies.
Yes I agree with u
THEY think they are very genius and comedian, if you are really where is your work to proud , if u r really talented why you are not famous, show ur talent in you tube, we watched, it is not up to the mark, anwar maqsood and moen is not our chacha mama, they gain respect and fame due to their work. so you guys are only carry catcher, when somebody are not successful then try to pull other famous leg pulling .
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Shahazad ghayas sahab.. it seems u didnt watch that bengali episode, its available on youtube and go watch it pls.. even bengalis of india and bangladesh have praised that episode.. instead of insulting bandladesh , they showed mirror to pakistani nation , its politicians and establishment.. your comments on that show are enough to gather that how “well informed “ you are
I agree with you maddy....he hasn't seen the episode, it wasn't an insult. He just saw the blackface.
Shehzad ghayas is just trying to be in the limelight and that is the reason he is doing everything in his power to create controversial things.. I haven't seen such an ill mannered person who can do such low things just to get some views trying to look cool by saying such irrelevant and without a research things to someone and in start of the video he is saying he has a degree in masters and have gone through so much literature.. everything is shown by his actions.
In case of that “Bengali act” by Moin Akhtar, I would say that -
He might have smeared his face black and that might look de meaning, however, things he says through that character… sarcastic and all … is perhaps the sharpest criticism of attitude of Pakistanis !!!
I agree with you. The dark face would be upsetting if you just stop there and don't watch the show. They never made fun of Bangladesh or its people, rather the opposite. It was a scathing criticism of Pakistan.
And the dark face was also attributed to playing in the sizzling heat of Multan! I also remember him calling his color "guaranteed fast color, tum logon ka rang kacha hey"
It was one of the best episodes of Loose Talk. Shahzad probably didn't even watch it. There were tons of comments from Bangladesh and India and no one complained about the color.
Yes, but new Gen woke people don't understand sarcasm and satire.
@@cargeek8419true... i have myself seen that episode and there is nothing wrong in that.. it was just a satirical sketch, but pseudo-intellectual people like Shehzad never get that. They didn't understand that there is a difference between Satire and Below the Belt Jokes what they do.
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Its (shahzad show) is not intellectual thing yar. Its clearly ethnic. Anwer sahab, Moin Akhter belong to certain community. They made sarcasm of every part of society even their own castes. The point was always to highlight social, political and economic issues of general public
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As a pakhtun, thanks for speaking for us. These ppl think mocking our accent is funny. Its not.
Ironic that the panel recommending that "Comedy should not be used to make fun of any group of people" contains Mustafa and Murtaza Chaudhary who coined the term "imrando" for PTI fans, a derogatory slur word. Yet we have more outrage on caricatures of 20 years back rather than introspecting on what the panel is doing themselves. I will respect you when you call out your friends over the same. And dont come up with the punch up bullshit because it is clearly punching down over the common PTI fans
As much as you’d like for it to be your only identity, PTI fans is not an ethnicity nor is it a marginalised group of people.
Your first mistake was to have free thought. Second mistake was adding rationality to it. Third mistake was building political opinion in your head. Fourth mistake is expressing your opinions publicly. Aisa karogay, to YE TO HOGA!
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غیر ضروری باتیں زیادہ کر رھے آپ۔ھم پاکستانیوں کے لئے حدود متعین ھوناضرورئ ھے۔آج کل کےیہ سفارشی لونڈے لپاڑے طنزح و مزاح کیاجانیں۔اسلئے اپنے بڑوں کا مزاق آڑاتے ھیں۔عین ممکن یہ لڑکے استعمال ھورھے ھوں برائے بربادی ادب و تعلیم ۔
Shehzad bhai agar aap ko bhi moin akhter ki satire samajh nai ai to afreen hai yaar. Moin akhter was not making fun of Bengalis, he was making fun of us. Please watch that show again.
he will not watch... because he is already defending his stance very lamely without any logic. bs apna intellect jhaarr raha hai
Inki jitni age hy utna uss banday ka writing career hy. He so called ridiculed everyone. Not just "sons of soils" but also Biharis, UP nawabs etc. And in all content his target was awami issues or our social problems!
So I'm completely aligned with your point of view. We absolutely need to revisit the way we represent people of all our different ethnicities and many more problematic representations in our media today. I agree that today loose talk wouldn't (shouldn't) work.
But after listening to this I went back to watch the loose talk episode of the Bengali cricketer. Blackface problematic, accent cringe worthy. But the content of the episode felt centred around praising Bangladeshi achievements and how far they'd come compared to Pakistan.
This is a really interesting point
in ko ek quom se masla hai or kuch nhi..Ap khud mehsos karo ge in ki or videos me jb karachi ka zikr ata hai..
Wasn't Murtaza Chaudhary the same person who started calling PTI followers imrando,what about 4 men show,they also made fun of Pathans and Sikhs, Murtaza Chaudhary continuously make fun of Pathans on ARY. Now they are trying to become saints.dont forget your past.
THEY think they are very genius and comedian, if you are really where is your work to proud , if u r really talented why you are not famous, show ur talent in you tube, we watched, it is not up to the mark, anwar maqsood and moen is not our chacha mama, they gain respect and fame due to their work. so you guys are only carry catcher, when somebody are not successful then try to pull other famous leg pulling .
@@shahidpasha4074 yeah exactly.There are two ways to be successful:
First : Do quality work which will be recognized by generations
Second : try to pull leg of the person who did quality work
thank you shahzad for acting sane in this religious lunatic society! thank you for being our voice! Anwar not just ridiculed bengolis and pathans but sindhis too!
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Understand the difference between comedy and ridicule. I am a Sindhi and I thoroughly enjoyed the episode where Moin Akhtar played a wadera. Don't be a snow flake.
He ridiculed Biharis, UP wala and his own caste too. Look at the content. Idiots are comparing israeli mocking Palestinians to Anwar sahabs work!
First of all its not ridicule. Its using the attire of one subject (sindhi, punjabi, pathan, bihari, bangali) and targetting the other (the elite establishment of this country, LEA's etc) for highlighting common man issues.
By the way you only mentioned certain castes. You did not watch other shows where moin sahab played bihari, hyderabadi, UP wala, CP wala? Why?
Its a south Asian mentality..Even in India it is like that. Thanks for bringing that 👍
At the same time you were sitting with the Chaudhry comedians who themselves mimic everyone including ppl like Anwer Maqsood..
tatti danishwaro se kya umeed rakhty ho
A so called stand up comedian having the kind of jokes he has cracked is trying to criticise a comedian's past acts is funny in itself.
I think we should report the channel and videos as he is being dropping down to his lowest day by day.
THEY think they are very genius and comedian, if you are really where is your work to proud , if u r really talented why you are not famous, show ur talent in you tube, we watched, it is not up to the mark, anwar maqsood and moen is not our chacha mama, they gain respect and fame due to their work. so you guys are only carry catcher, when somebody are not successful then try to pull other famous leg pulling .
Could you please share your sources about Shakespeare being considered 'low-brow'?
I am a student of English Literature.
Elizabeth I herself watched Shakespeare's play. Back in the late 16th century, when she opened public theater where Shakespeare was performed, it was partly because she wanted to propagate English language. Shakespeare was the leading figure giving new expressions to English language. The theatres goers included all classes of England, with the elites sitting at the best places.
However, Shakespeare was often despised by the literati of the time for not following the classical dramatic norms because at that time france was considered a 'master' to be immitated (if that is what you mean by low-brow)
Afterwards, that is during the restoration period, the English literati began to develop their 'national literature'. The figures like John Dryden and Samuel Johnson placed Shakespeare as towering figure.
He doesn't know anything... just makes false statements to get sympathy...
That was sarcasm that's why he was performing like that. Please understand the difference
Bas o bas!
Acting is fine, doing a blackface and stereotypical accent is wrong. Also context needs to be considered, a country that genocided another people should not be making fun of those people.
@@lanoklom9697Are you kidding me? What is stereotypical accent? Seems Shahzad has created a following of snow flakes! If Moin is playing a Pathan, what accent should he speak in?
@@cargeek8419As I said context needs to be considered. A people who you once genocided are being stereotyped by their accent, physical features and their lives. That is not right.
@@lanoklom9697You must be ultra-woke! In your dictionary, there's no such word as "parody". Comedy must be filtered to make sure it in no way offends any snowflake!
I'm a Sindhi and one of my favorite episodes was the one with a wadera.
And by the way, if you had bothered to watch that episode, no one made fun of Bengalis. It was actually a sarcastic rebuke of Pakistanis.
Trivia::: Azra Mohyeddin is Zia Mohyeddin Sb's wife.
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Where can we watch the full stream of the talk with you guys on klf. It's not on their RUclips page. Please guide.
ruclips.net/video/c0mLzmST-L4/видео.html&ab_channel=Karachi%26IslamabadLiteratureFestivals
Loved you and chaudhry braadraan at KLF. Hats off to you.
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Shehzad, it’s really tough battle. A lot of respect for you doing great job. Spreading awareness in such suffocated and closed environment. Always worth listening! Keep going on and take care!
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Where can i see the full sitting here on RUclips?
Shahzad you have NOTHING to worry about. Masha Allah you taught me to think out of the box and actually question our people, our leaders and both sides of the coin. I also got shunned by my family when I asked them questions about Imran Khan and later learned that question Karna is not wrong.
You're teaching people to question and that's beautiful my brother
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Hats off to you guys- Chaudhry brothers and yourself for all the work you are doing in Pakistan which is no less than minefield for critical ideas today! As far as the "legends" are concerned, we should absolutely call out for the wrongs they have done however with due regards to the milieu and context they were operating in. For instance, this big no-no for stereotyping peoples was not as much in vogue back then when Moin Akhtar was doing Loose Talk however as you said and I agree, we should definitely resort to constructive criticism speaking about public personalities like MA and their work regardless of their being alive or dead. Best wishes!
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Basically the crux of the video is dominance of urdu culture in Pakistan arts cinema and dramas.
It has nothing to do with bangali, pashtoons, blacks, balochs, kanjars, amanat chand, 80’s treatment of women in pakistan, zia ul haq n all.
They dont know how to say this urdu dominance, so they have selected urdu prominent artists and start criticizing their work and then in the mean time tell his message that ‘speaking clean urdu shouldn’t be a criteria in theatres, cinemas and dramas’.
And i think its a good marketing strategy because it is appealing to 80% of the non urdu speaking population if pakistan.
im sorry really dont get these guys, at one hand they are blaming legends like Moin Akhtar and Anwar Maqsood for being racist, but in their own show they do that and at times they do dirty comedies which cannot be watched with the families, secondly its now a fashion by some so called leftiest to critiziced every body for every thing, and called themselved INTELLECTUALS, i dare these ppl specially these 02 brother to say these things in front of Moin and Anwar sb when they were alive, not easy to critizise dead ppl, as they are not their defend and debate
THEY think they are very genius and comedian, if you are really where is your work to proud , if u r really talented why you are not famous, show ur talent in you tube, we watched, it is not up to the mark, anwar maqsood and moen is not our chacha mama, they gain respect and fame due to their work. so you guys are only carry catcher, when somebody are not successful then try to pull other famous leg pulling .
You did not let that woman express her case and harangued her down.
Production houses in Pakistan have always made a lucrative business out of ridiculing pushtunz and stereotyping them.....
Bro full episode Kha hai KLF ka ?
A good friend is one who corrects you when you are wrong. I also feel that you got a little emotional in your response that made you sound a little rude. Just my observation.
Maybe i do not recall the episode 100% but I think the episode was about "typical Pakistani mentality" of a Bangladeshi person. This includes perception of how they look and what they think of him. And on the other hand Moin Akhter was teaching him how to conduct himself without prejudice and showing Pakistanis their real face by dropping some truth bombs. Some of them I recall:
We have more exports.
We are more educated and giving people more and more education.
You don't need to talk on behalf of Bangladeshi people. We are enough.
Double standard of Pakistanis where they only talk about topics where they are doing better than Bangladesh.
How Bangladesh is better off than Pakistan.
This host has absolutely narrow and limited mindset to take things in perspective...
We've made our own idols and don't want to listen to anything against them. A critical discourse doesn't mean you're belittling someone. It may be argued the way a critical analysis is carried out but critical thinking has always been imperative in a society's progress for good.
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Sir please watch the whole episode of that...that comedy is far better than today's 18+ jokes by most comedians
Your efforts in raising awareness have been remarkable, and we are lucky to have people like you. I've witnessed your journey to this point. Avoid getting involved in unnecessary controversies and wasting your energy and potential in debates. You've made your point clear. In a society as diverse as ours, burdened with oversimplified beliefs, lot of fault lines, and misguided notions, achieving unanimous agreement is never possible.
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Well done Shehzad . Requires guts to do .. Keep it up . I might disagree with things said on India but I think Pakistan needs individuals like you .
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Very good video, I fail to understand why people are mad at you.
People love to be mad at me 😅
Wow….what a mature n sensible talk…..absolutely loved it.
Can’t believe it’s coming from a person who doesn’t know how to give respect to some of his guests and sole reason to invite is to make mockery of them (cf. “bheja fry”)
Jiye Shahzad Ghias. Always coming up with some good material. Allah aap ko aur tofeeq de. Ameen 🙌
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Where can I find the link to the whole KLF discourse?
ruclips.net/video/c0mLzmST-L4/видео.html&ab_channel=Karachi%26IslamabadLiteratureFestivals
Shahzad is right. If we don't learn from the mistakes of the "legends", hum is hi tarah zaleel hote rahenge.
This is what british do it with Irish as well. Very good 👍
You r not only intelligent but also great intellectual...
He is ravish Kumar of Pakistan
Excellent narrative, much eloquently expressed. We need not to ridicule our diversity but to celebrate it. 👍
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Dear Brother, always felt that u r a deep thinker...this video is the evidence of it...Lots of Love from India ❤
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@@ThePakistanExperience Pathan dictator ayub Khan tareen made Bangladesh Also tell to the audience.
Great Analysis. I hope some day you look into the fact that the biggest casualty of northern punjabi establishment has been the punjabi culture and language. Punjabi is a language that a vast majority of its speaker don’t know how to read or write.There is now a disturbing strand of reactionary punjabi nationalism simmering in some quarters.
Muhajir dictator Musharraf and Pathan dictator ayub Khan tareen and Pathan dictator yahya Khan .
true, at least someone has pointed out that
You are a thoughtful, honest, intelligent and caring young man. This old Pashtoon lady hereby adopts you as her grandson!
Your podcasts are such a pleasure to watch, you always give us something to think about! ❤
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I think human nature is not pushed to extreme by comedians but by the Imperialists, politicians and bureaucracy....but no one questions them.. They question comedians 👏👏
We are easy targets
@@ThePakistanExperience yes exactly.
Sad but true! @@ThePakistanExperience
Bravo! You are a rare voice of sanity in this lunatic asylum. All strength to you.
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very rightly pointed out
Great show sir
More power to Shahzad. ❤ You always have a fresh perspective on old stereotypes which i always find rational. Love you.
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Shehzad Bhai you never fail to amaze me with your clarity and wit.
Started following you after the whole Muzamil podcast viral clips.
Please keep doing what you do.
JazakAllah and I hope you find the strength to keep standing for facts and morality.
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Thanks
Shezad you are looking through critical way that is good,now that the time to speak up freely. Good job...
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Please share the link of klf video
facebook.com/100063936016528/posts/831514198989773/?
Sir this klf episode is deleted?? From there channel
fb.watch/qqUGlnyDGb/?
@@ThePakistanExperience thank you sir right now I am seeing this,I so happy with Chaudhry brother and you what you have given answer to that lady and the mustafa to old guy, and I am completely agree that legends are not god, if we create them we have also right to criticize them. And your point is also right that pathans stereotypes and same as here where sikh because comedy character in Bollywood and portrait as most alcohol drinking community, and Muslim as most non veg eating community rather than if beer ,meat are sell by adhar Card (I'd Card) then the reality is different.
Theek kaha ap ne sir! Hamen context ko samajhna chahiye, or ap apna kam jari rakhen👍
Shehzad shb then why Mustafa make fun of Aleema khan app tou aurrat k right ki barri batty karty hou orr app abb Mustafa ko Defend krr raha hai Or Mustafa nai bhi Aleema khan prr fun kiyaa hai mazak bnaya unkko
Bro., society has changed for worst. This is rampant everywhere, particularly in South Asia. The political class is not interested in pure comedy but are interested in their political dividend.
Good Explanation Bro ❤👏 Keep it up good work.
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Really enjoyed listening
This is how punjabi establishment have been launching their own trained intellectual both in religious and political arena to belittle and suppress those writings and contents which removes the veil of so called protectors and defenders of pakistan, pakistanis in general have never been respectful to those who actually made us proud globally.
Them oldies..... They get so shocked when someone questions the atrocious behaviours that they have normalised. Keep up the good work ✌️ (until you get arrested for it 😅 )
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Shehzad could you please reference the episode that you are talking about?
ruclips.net/video/8iPCKfkXmew/видео.html
Exactly!
Very well said ❤
I watched that video live.....you and your colleagues answered beautifully...most crowd tried to heckle you but you responded with grace
Where we can watch that video
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I agree with you. While jokes are often meant in good humor, they can unintentionally insult people from other nations. -a trend that started in the early 1980s and persists today. This includes figures like Moin Sahib, Anwar Maqsood Sahib, and Iftikhar Thakur. Therefore, we should reconsider our approach to comedy, focusing on improving it without offending other nations. Additionally, we need to appreciate new generation like Shehzad.
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Shahzad I heard that lady from audience she will be hurt and object to a Israeli dress up as Palestinian and make fun of Palestine...but when u said it's holds true if you make fun of Bengali...she says no no he didn't mean that...she was so wrong...good u called that out
Khuda k banday moin akhter ka bengali wala show dekha hai? It was fucking satire, the same shit shehzad does.
No it was not. Glad Anwar Maqsood keeps called out for his racism. He said the same racist crap about Sindhis multiple times despite apologizing for it. Ghaleez insaan hai. Fraud writer.
This is such an important video.. your response at KLF was so apt... good work shahzad
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Aleema khan ka mazaq ap log beth kr bna rhy thy us time yad nhe aya ky wo bi kisi ki Maa bhn hain.
The target of that joke was the election commission, not Aleema Khan
in tatti danaishwaro ko maa behan ki izzat ka kya maloom
Applying woke concepts of 2024 on performances of yesteryear isn't correct IMO. Lots of things said back then won't fly today (let it be us or western entertainment industry). The core of moeen and umer sharif's presentation was mostly family friendly and saaf suthri.
once again thought provoking, since you have studied the subject you can critically analyse the content and since i have not studied the subject (or thought about on who is the target of the joke) i never realised if there is something wrong, but the kind of explanation you give in this video gives me a point around which some thinking should happen
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This is true as today we will consider many jokes from the old series Fawlty Towers and Friends to be racist and homophobic.
BTW it’s Pathaan and not Phataan
Overall you made sense, kudos!
punjabis on the boath side of the border have deep racist mindsetup here in india they also use mirasi, chudha, kanjar etc words in derogatory terms.
Well done shehzad, you are absolutely right
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You know, I totally get what you're saying. Do we have a history of problamatic content and to an extent state driven content to mold and shape minds?
Even if some folks nitpick about how things were visually portrayed or treated, it's really about digging into the meat of the content, right? That commentary on what's has been going on between the two countries was seriously spot-on. And man, that character had layers. It was like peeling back the layers of an onion, seeing how years of oppression and trauma can really mold someone's sense of self. And that whole bit about the inferiority complex? It hit home. As a comedian yourself, im sure you could see the tongue-in-cheek humor and the deeper message behind it all. It wasn't just about poking fun; it was about making us think. Now imagine all the other comedy done on expanse of other in our society and look at MA sahab. He knew what he was doing and years ahead!❤
I love the part where he pointed racism against Punjab
Good to see hard conversations are being had, it is courageous and hop it continues. It would be better, in my opinion that it be organic, having seen all those high ideals like freedom of religion and no racism, and freedom of speech are selective and therefore hollow.
Bs krde paglay ab rulae ga kia...i thought itll be a lighthearted conv between our favorite trio
hats off to show courage on this topic because I came to kanjar community belongs to schedule cast in India
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Well done. Our major issue is not economic instability but moral degeneracy.
LOL, how old is that pic of yours on the pamphlet? did you provided it to them? 😁😆
Internet say lee unho nay
One more thing that needs to be remembered also is that of course there will be jokes, here and there, ethnicities may come in the way, or genders, or races, but the fact that needs to be addressed is the targeted denigration of certain sects of the society. Yet one needs to be careful that this whole conversation can be very easily turned around by the same targeting institution by taking advantage of the victimhood card, like here in the USA any questions being raised over the highly confusing gender issue being cancelled.
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Honest for once , liked this program Shahazad
Excellent commentary. We are fundamentally a racist society. I dont blame Bangladesh going there own way.
Indian here btw, I'm have seen the video you guys are discussing & I guess a lot of other Indians have seen it as well. The video states the ongoing degradation of Pakistan (the video's old I know) compared to Bangladesh; however, the black face was uncalled for, the accent was okay, I have heard similar accent on our side of the border as well. I agreed with both of you & thought you both could have discussed it differently maybe..just a thought.
wow bro hats off to you, keep standing strong!
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He calls himself comedian and yet couldn't understand that Bengali humour.
By the way, shehzad, that episode of loose talk where moin akhtar plays a bengali cricketer, is a pure satire. What you probably have not noticed that moin akhtar parodies the sterortypical point of view from our side. He performed the character as it is stereotypified and perceived. And as a clue, listen again to Anwar maqsood. I am rather surprised by your interpretation waisay.
Can I read your thesis plis
That is what I say to people and get criticized for... No one should be above criticism and criticism in no way means that you hate the person you are criticizing. Critical thinking has become a sin in this society. We really need to open up our minds.
Shehzad, you are intelligent, an intellectual and a guy with very high sensitivity and good sensibilities . Your explanation is awesome without being guilty or doing any wrong whatsoever. Actually such observations and debates increase sensitivity and sensibilities in our society . I am an ardent fan of Moin Akhtar - Anwar Maqsud duo . Possibly best actor - script writer duo of subcontinent. Undoubtedly they have entertained millions and quality of their humour was serene and pristine, 90 to 95 % of time . Yes they are legends but not God . Moin Bhai performed both roles , one of BD cricketer and second of a Bengali cook so well , in fact the script of Bengali cook had something in the favour of victims but one that of BD cricketer was only little short of derogatory. Till now I enjoyed on acting of Moin Bhai but after listening to your this podcast, I felt that my enjoyment was tainted . Thanks for what you are
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First of all I don’t see any reason to explain or apologize for the views put forward, I agree we should always examine the art or other work which impacts people’s sensitivities. What was surprising in the interaction about Moin Akhtar was the participant was constantly justifying his work specially where there is blatant stereotyping and narrative reflective of our bigoted elite mindset. I agree Moin Akhtar was a great artist and has elevated the stature of anwar maqsood too, however with times we evolve and learn our sensitivities change, we can not denigrate other ethnicity’s or create a stereo typical narrative. Very unfortunate to see this interaction at a literary festival where we should allow a diverse discourse which takes all the sensitivities in account …
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Moin akhtar sahib is my all tim favourite but now i agreed wid u shahzad that we make our favourities like a God ....we do mistakes n we have to talk on such topics ,we should learn from these mistakes.u r very bold to talk on such bold topics....
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Very Well said. 👍👍👍
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You need to make a video on your thesis.
Thankyou. Zehn kholen. Keep it up. ❤
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I agree with you about that black face skit. Here in America people lose their gigs for doing shit like that.
I am not saying that anwar maqsood is never derogatory, but your reading of bengali episode of loose talk is not accurate.
bhai ap us video k nichay comments toh dekho mostly bangoli praise kr rhe hain..